great review! Got me excited again for m43. I wish lumix would release a smaller variant of this in a premium body, GX8 style. Do you sell your luts yet btw?
Thank you for a very comprehensive video. Very helpful.I am convinced now to replace my G9 with the new mark2.I think that you have not mentioned the 100 mega pixels hand held option. Great feature in my opinion.
100% correct... i don't understand the obsession with high iso either... when I started my professional career as a newspaper photographer 40 years ago... 1600 asa or iso :-) was max... i honestly believe it's something for TH-camrs to talk about and nothing else... good video!
Yeah, I agree but you can't beat very clear photos and video and ISO4000 on Lumix S5II/S5IIx. It makes life so much easier a lot of times. Thank you for watching!
If you use the right lens, you don't face real low light problems,as long as you can see the object .This is my experience with the G9. The mark 2 ,is much more capable, so there shouldn't be any low light issues in most cases.Can not wait to buy the mark2.
Thanks! Just got back into the MFT system again and looking forward to this one. It's expensive for a MFT camera but has a ton of features. Will rent one first I think
Can't wait for the next GH camera ! I can't have any limitations on my main camera ( like on recording time and lack of hdmi output setting) . I have many amazing m43 primes that can't wait to be driven by a good AF (oly 1.8/75 or leica 1.4/25 for example)
Actually, Pav, that's NOT why it's called Micro Four Thirds. "Four thirds" refers to its sensor size, meaning 1.33" sensor. The 4:3 aspect ratio is actually a convenient coincidence. "Micro" refers to the flange distance as opposed to the "four thirds" DSLR frange distance. Hope that clears it up for you.
I enjoyed your review tremendously, and tomorrow I’m going to download all of those photos you generously posted. Thank you very much. I look forward to more G9 II content.
I downloaded those files and using DXO Pure Raw. Those ISO 12,800 photos looked terrific. Except for film-nerds, most of the public would have no idea those were "bad" photos. Cameras have become incredible.@@PavSZ
I have seen reviews that point out that this camera can take quite a long time to boot up or turn on. Did you find this to be the case ? Also when trying to acquire a moving bird it will ' search ' before the camera locks on to the subject when in continues focus mode. Yes - no ? Thank you. Because of your vid I will consider getting the kit Leica kit lens if I chose this camera - depending on firmware up dates. I have the FZ2500 & the G9 camera. Ray from Sacramento, Cal.
I’ve currently got one on hire. Can’t help you with birds, but re: boot up times - the first boot of the day takes a while (about 5 seconds), but the subsequent boots are quicker at about one second. It’s like even if you turn it off, it’s more asleep than off. It’s running the latest firmware 2.1. For comparison my OM-1.2 takes c.1.8 seconds at all times, and my X-H2 is steady at c1.5 seconds. What I will say is that in my very limited testing, the battery life seems poor.
Thank you for the great review!!! I have a question: ssd recording is only possible when I use dummy battery? What if I use regular battery inside the camera. Cannot use external ssd at all or the time gets way shorter than in case of recording on internal SD card? Or what? Thank you in advance!!
You can use SSD with normal battery. I don't think the recording time will be shorter than if recording onto SD card. When testing recording onto SSD, the camera was generating far less heat, probably using a little bit less battery as well because of that
Like most of my purchases I'm going to wait until these have been out for a while and get one second hand. I'm holding on to my 25mm and 45mm 1.8's for when I return to m43 in my old age.
@@lesw.1748 when you set different AF modes or different video formats, I don't think there is an indicator to tell you if it is PDAF or not. Also contrast detect AF never had problems in any previous Lumix camera when shooting photos in AF-S. So even if it is, it should not be a problem. I use my S5II and S5IIx every day and can't say that it is a problem at all. G9II has got even more sophisticated AF system
some formats are not available to record onto SSD when powering the camera from the battery. It needs to be powered from the main via the dummy battery adapter to unlock all formats
1:50 You would think that's right, but it's not. The "Four Thirds" has nothing to do with aspect ratio of the sensor. Wikipedia has the correct explanation: -- The name of the system stems from the size of the image sensor used in the cameras, which is commonly referred to as a 4/3" type or 4/3 type sensor. The common inch-based sizing system is derived from vacuum image-sensing video camera tubes, which are now obsolete. The imaging area of a Four Thirds sensor is equal to that of a video camera tube of 4/3 inch diameter. --
Thx for this great review, I have a G9 first edition and would love to have an II as well, but I bought a Fuji XT4 a few months earlier, should I have known that this was coming out never would have done that.
Yeah great video & photo, but it has a HUGE overheating issue, Canon R6 overheating looks amateurish in comparison, and IBIS, well I think Fuji did not understand the point of it, IBIS should reduce shaking to a video not add to it... handheld half of my shots look like I'm a junkie in dire need of stuff. @@PavSZ
Paweł. Dziękuję za recenzję. Testowałeś go. Napisz proszę jak długo można nagrywać video w FullHD 25 i 50 klatek oraz 4K 25 i 50 klatek ? To dla mnie mocno istotne . Jak szybko może się przegrzać w tych ustawieniach ? Pozdrawiam. Artur
nie powinnienen sie przegrzewac wogole w normalnych warunkach. Jak demostruje w moim video, jest rowniez latwy do schlodzenia w czasie uzywania w goracych warunkach
PAV, it’s the opposite. The current s5ii body does feel smaller and cheaper than the original G9. They knew the sales were going to be very low and they wanted to keep the cost down. They even removed the lock button on the mode wheel and decided to go without a top LCD panel instead of making it up to the competitors top tier models. It’s a pity, because G9 was a great camera and deserved a proper continuation.
We all have different tastes. I never liked the original G9 shape, I also don't like how all the Canons look. On the other hand I fell in LOVE with original S5 - I personally think it's a very sexy looking camera. I don't think they are going to keep the same body for the future S1, maybe they will, who knows
I am happy it feels smaller than the original G9 and I never ever used the top LCD panel either. This is the perfect continuation. The original G9 was a photo/video beast and G9 ii pushes it even further finally with great PDAF.
A lot of users like the S5-II body. It's designed as a small, more stills orientated camera and it's a great idea to use it as a large, more stills oriented body for MFT. A new body that looks more like the old one from the G9 would have approximately the same size and the camera would be more expensive. Also I'm sure the designers did a lot of research about what features people are using in the G9. I'm sure that is the reason they dropped the top LCD.
I can't see the point of MFT anymore especially for photography , the S5ii is the same size and FF, sure if you shoot long telephoto you save some weight with MFT, but apart from that... nope.
what about if you have been using MFT system for awhile and you have a collection of lenses, love the look of them and you are used to the format? It's just a personal preference. If I had no FF cameras right now and was just starting out, I'd seriously consider this.
@@stevenbamford5245 FF also offers more expensive lenses. Someone starting out and trying things out for a first time won't see it that way. G9II and OM-System OM-1 are very capable cameras in their own right
@@PavSZ If your starting out, I would like to think you do some research, if you commit thousands to mft then you better love it. Not the wise choice for a couple of cheap lenses, although the Olympus Pro lenses are on a par as is the OM-1 body with the price of a FF system.
why do you want to carry about such huge lenses? Absolutely no need for it in this day and age. FF is an outdated format invented when film was incredibly slow.
Great video, as usual from you Pav. This camera is AWESOME. Proud user of Lumix cameras since 2009. Never looked back! ....( ive preordered two!!!)
Thanks!!
Good choice!
How are you finding them 3 months later?
Pav thank you SO MUCH for clarifying the slow motion of this camera
thanks for watching!
Great walkthrough, Pav! Love how you put this together. Really interesting stuff :) 👏
Glad you enjoyed it! Thank you very much
Clitheroe Castle at 5.55! wasn't expecting that. Good video by the way, just ordered a G9 II this morning.
Thanks! Clitheroe is visible in almost all of my lens and camera reviews.
Good choice, I love G9II
I was on the fence about this camera. But now, I cant wait to get it!
It's a good camera. I kind of want one
Thanks for this! I’m excited to pick one up in a few months.
Nice!
great review! Got me excited again for m43. I wish lumix would release a smaller variant of this in a premium body, GX8 style. Do you sell your luts yet btw?
Thanks! it is great M43 cam
LUTS are ready for sale but I have a lot of issues with the website and the hosting. I'm working on it
Thank you for a very comprehensive video. Very helpful.I am convinced now to replace my G9 with the new mark2.I think that you have not mentioned the 100 mega pixels hand held option. Great feature in my opinion.
I have mentioned it in my first video about G9II
100% correct... i don't understand the obsession with high iso either... when I started my professional career as a newspaper photographer 40 years ago... 1600 asa or iso :-) was max... i honestly believe it's something for TH-camrs to talk about and nothing else... good video!
Yeah, I agree but you can't beat very clear photos and video and ISO4000 on Lumix S5II/S5IIx. It makes life so much easier a lot of times.
Thank you for watching!
If you use the right lens, you don't face real low light problems,as long as you can see the object .This is my experience with the G9. The mark 2 ,is much more capable, so there shouldn't be any low light issues in most cases.Can not wait to buy the mark2.
Excellent. Just what I was looking for. Thank You
Glad it was helpful!
Thanks! Just got back into the MFT system again and looking forward to this one. It's expensive for a MFT camera but has a ton of features. Will rent one first I think
you get a lot of camera for your money with G9II.
Renting is the best way to experience the camera and how it feels in your hands before buying it
Yes the price is the challenge for me as a G9 owner. The current new cost of the OG G9 is 1/3 of the preorder street price of the G9II. YIKES!
Can't wait for the next GH camera ! I can't have any limitations on my main camera ( like on recording time and lack of hdmi output setting) .
I have many amazing m43 primes that can't wait to be driven by a good AF (oly 1.8/75 or leica 1.4/25 for example)
I can't wait for GH6II or GH7. It's going to be a beast
Great video. If it would be just for video would you prefer this or go with a used gh6?
For me would be this. Two words: Auto focus
@@PavSZ Understandable. I'm coming from a BMPCC4k, so I am used to bad autofocus 😅
Actually, Pav, that's NOT why it's called Micro Four Thirds. "Four thirds" refers to its sensor size, meaning 1.33" sensor. The 4:3 aspect ratio is actually a convenient coincidence. "Micro" refers to the flange distance as opposed to the "four thirds" DSLR frange distance. Hope that clears it up for you.
Yea, I know 😉 but it sounds good.
Thank you for your feedback, much appreciated
I thought the 4:3 came from historical measurement system for broadcast TV cameras; can you speak to that?
@@5lowburner Yes. That was what I was referring to. There are a few videos on the subject.
I enjoyed your review tremendously, and tomorrow I’m going to download all of those photos you generously posted. Thank you very much. I look forward to more G9 II content.
Thank you!!
I downloaded those files and using DXO Pure Raw. Those ISO 12,800 photos looked terrific. Except for film-nerds, most of the public would have no idea those were "bad" photos. Cameras have become incredible.@@PavSZ
Great video very informative and well presented.
Thank you very much!
Still waiting for your Lightroom PPFilter
They are ready but I have a lot of issues finishing my website right now. Soon, I promise. I'm working on it
@@PavSZ thanks
WOW.. footage from G9 ii looks good.. nice!!
Thanks a lot!
The Four Thirds name primarily relates to the size of the sensor, not it’s aspect ratio. The size is 4/3 inch in the old, analog video camera terms.
yes!
Thank you for the files you shared! The camera sems very usefull!
Thank you for watching!
I love the updated body this camera offers for MFT
YES!
Love the content and the T-shirt, where can I get one please? :)
Where are you based? what country?
@@PavSZ UK
@@G255Ray cool, I'll try to put it up for sale this week for you
I have seen reviews that point out that this camera can take quite a long time to boot up or turn on. Did you find this to be the case ? Also when trying to acquire a moving bird it will ' search ' before the camera locks on to the subject when in continues focus mode. Yes - no ? Thank you. Because of your vid I will consider getting the kit Leica kit lens if I chose this camera - depending on firmware up dates. I have the FZ2500 & the G9 camera. Ray from Sacramento, Cal.
I’ve currently got one on hire. Can’t help you with birds, but re: boot up times - the first boot of the day takes a while (about 5 seconds), but the subsequent boots are quicker at about one second. It’s like even if you turn it off, it’s more asleep than off. It’s running the latest firmware 2.1.
For comparison my OM-1.2 takes c.1.8 seconds at all times, and my X-H2 is steady at c1.5 seconds.
What I will say is that in my very limited testing, the battery life seems poor.
Good review. Thanks.
Thanks for watching!
As a longterm m43 user I already preordered it
Nice!
2023. AF test with f/6.3? Tnx.
why with f6.3 exactly? Strange request
Thank you for the great review!!! I have a question: ssd recording is only possible when I use dummy battery? What if I use regular battery inside the camera. Cannot use external ssd at all or the time gets way shorter than in case of recording on internal SD card? Or what? Thank you in advance!!
You can use SSD with normal battery. I don't think the recording time will be shorter than if recording onto SD card.
When testing recording onto SSD, the camera was generating far less heat, probably using a little bit less battery as well because of that
Like most of my purchases I'm going to wait until these have been out for a while and get one second hand. I'm holding on to my 25mm and 45mm 1.8's for when I return to m43 in my old age.
good plan!
Is it true that the new pdaf on this camera is available in afc only? Otherwise, dfd is available in afs only.
I don't think it is true. You also have no indication of what AF mode it is using at any given time.
@@PavSZ You set AF mode yourself. When AFC is selected, PDAF is available, but when AFS is selected, DFD is the only option.
@@lesw.1748 when you set different AF modes or different video formats, I don't think there is an indicator to tell you if it is PDAF or not.
Also contrast detect AF never had problems in any previous Lumix camera when shooting photos in AF-S. So even if it is, it should not be a problem. I use my S5II and S5IIx every day and can't say that it is a problem at all. G9II has got even more sophisticated AF system
Thank you for your replies.
Great video! Why is it not possible to record 4k 120fps to ssds? Didn't get that part! Thanks for your reply :)
some formats are not available to record onto SSD when powering the camera from the battery. It needs to be powered from the main via the dummy battery adapter to unlock all formats
@@PavSZ Oh ok, got it! Thanks for the info!
Is g9 mark 2 way better video quality than g9. And do you think its worth to upgrade too g9 mark 2 for video from g9?
it is a better camera overall. I can't tell you if it is better for you though. Only you can decide based on the specs and reviews
Great vid. I’d be interested to know how the AF works with a viltrox adapted lens??
Thanks.
Viltrox adapted lens?
@@PavSZ Yeah, to see how the AF performs if you attached an EF lens to the G9 II via a viltrox ef-m2 speed booster adapter.
1:50 You would think that's right, but it's not. The "Four Thirds" has nothing to do with aspect ratio of the sensor. Wikipedia has the correct explanation:
--
The name of the system stems from the size of the image sensor used in the cameras, which is commonly referred to as a 4/3" type or 4/3 type sensor. The common inch-based sizing system is derived from vacuum image-sensing video camera tubes, which are now obsolete. The imaging area of a Four Thirds sensor is equal to that of a video camera tube of 4/3 inch diameter.
--
yeah, video camera tube that was 4:3 aspect ratio
@@PavSZ Nope, you still got it wrong. NOTHING to do with aspect ratio, but diameter of the imaging area in inches.
Thx for this great review, I have a G9 first edition and would love to have an II as well, but I bought a Fuji XT4 a few months earlier, should I have known that this was coming out
never would have done that.
oh noooooo.
XT4 is a great camera too
Yeah great video & photo, but it has a HUGE overheating issue, Canon R6 overheating looks amateurish in comparison,
and IBIS, well I think Fuji did not understand the point of it, IBIS should reduce shaking to a video not add to it...
handheld half of my shots look like I'm a junkie in dire need of stuff.
@@PavSZ
super, dzięki ;)
Dzieki!!
Czy wiesz ze mam drugi kanal po polsku? To video jest tam tez: th-cam.com/video/MWwNaPUzdGw/w-d-xo.htmlsi=LdDH8t8QAXwMGPCz
@@PavSZ pewnie, że wiem, oglądam i subskrybuję, dodałem tu komentarz po polsku dla picu 😂🙂👍
Are you sure about boost IS adding crop? That would be a new thing.
I don't have the camera anymore but it seemed like it was cropping when I switched it on
@@PavSZ I see. Need to confirm then! Anyway, I appreciate you sharing the sample files. More reviewers should do that to be honest.
@@PavSZ Boost IS never add any crop on Panasonic cameras. However Electronic stabilization adds a 1,1/1,2x crop.
Exactly, it‘s the electr. stabilization that adds a little crop
Paweł. Dziękuję za recenzję. Testowałeś go. Napisz proszę jak długo można nagrywać video w FullHD 25 i 50 klatek oraz 4K 25 i 50 klatek ? To dla mnie mocno istotne . Jak szybko może się przegrzać w tych ustawieniach ? Pozdrawiam. Artur
nie powinnienen sie przegrzewac wogole w normalnych warunkach. Jak demostruje w moim video, jest rowniez latwy do schlodzenia w czasie uzywania w goracych warunkach
I just need a gh5 with PD, 7.5-8 stops IBIS and 4k60p AI. Thats all 😀👍😀 Maybe an upcoming G7mk2? Frans, Bali.
new GH series camera must be coming soon
Sold my GH6 last week. Thinking sbout get g9II, but the price is same as s5II.
right now, G9II is a better camera, especially if you are already invested in M43 lenses
I need a gh5 with PD, 7,5-8 stops of IBIS and 4k60 AI. Thats all, 😀👍😀. So, maybe an upcoming G7mk2?!. Frans, Bali.
small requirements.
GH6, this G9II, S5II/S5IIx do a lot already. We just have to wait to see what will be coming out from Lumix next
3:45 Narodowy Bank Polski?? Pan jest Polakiem?
www.youtube.com/@aparatografia 😉
Small z9 on real good price
yes
PAV, it’s the opposite. The current s5ii body does feel smaller and cheaper than the original G9. They knew the sales were going to be very low and they wanted to keep the cost down. They even removed the lock button on the mode wheel and decided to go without a top LCD panel instead of making it up to the competitors top tier models. It’s a pity, because G9 was a great camera and deserved a proper continuation.
I only hope now they are going to update the original S1 without “improving” it like G9…
We all have different tastes. I never liked the original G9 shape, I also don't like how all the Canons look.
On the other hand I fell in LOVE with original S5 - I personally think it's a very sexy looking camera.
I don't think they are going to keep the same body for the future S1, maybe they will, who knows
I am happy it feels smaller than the original G9 and I never ever used the top LCD panel either. This is the perfect continuation. The original G9 was a photo/video beast and G9 ii pushes it even further finally with great PDAF.
@@PavSZ On the other hand, the pro Nikon cameras are huge, too, so only time will show. :)
A lot of users like the S5-II body. It's designed as a small, more stills orientated camera and it's a great idea to use it as a large, more stills oriented body for MFT. A new body that looks more like the old one from the G9 would have approximately the same size and the camera would be more expensive. Also I'm sure the designers did a lot of research about what features people are using in the G9. I'm sure that is the reason they dropped the top LCD.
I can't see the point of MFT anymore especially for photography , the S5ii is the same size and FF, sure if you shoot long telephoto you save some weight with MFT, but apart from that... nope.
what about if you have been using MFT system for awhile and you have a collection of lenses, love the look of them and you are used to the format?
It's just a personal preference. If I had no FF cameras right now and was just starting out, I'd seriously consider this.
@@PavSZ If your just starting out you have better options within FF, why hinder yourself with MFT, especially as FF offers more versatility.
@@stevenbamford5245 FF also offers more expensive lenses.
Someone starting out and trying things out for a first time won't see it that way. G9II and OM-System OM-1 are very capable cameras in their own right
@@PavSZ If your starting out, I would like to think you do some research, if you commit thousands to mft then you better love it.
Not the wise choice for a couple of cheap lenses, although the Olympus Pro lenses are on a par as is the OM-1 body with the price of a FF system.
why do you want to carry about such huge lenses? Absolutely no need for it in this day and age. FF is an outdated format invented when film was incredibly slow.