Michael Trumph That's stupid, considering Earnie Shavers hit Ali square in the jaw, and Ali took it. A lot of people contend that Shavers is the hardest puncher ever.
Then how do explain the fact that a skinny HW in Cooper (a cruiserweight by today's standards) and Joe Frazier floored him ?!? Shavers's didn't hit him clean and by the latter rounds one's power and stamina diminishes and that transfer's into his punches.
GhettoMist Earnie Shavers wasn't the same fighter, he once was when he fought Ali and the example of that is Earnie had stamina problems and was only looking for one big punch.
Michael Trumph Joe Frazier had one of the best if not the best left hook in all of boxing. How are you blaming Ali for falling to it and getting back up on a 3-count when the same hook and kept folks down for 30-count.
I think Ali was around in the hardest era as far as standard of opponents go. Look who he fought Liston, Patterson, Frazier, Foreman, Spinks, Cooper, Shavers any of them Could dominate an era
@Naeem Islam no Mercer had a way better chin..went down once..Ali has been down twice..well 3..if u count Wepner..so that shows Mercer had a way better chin..Ali has that overrated chin..then again Ali never really took a bad beating. Except Holmes. Which Ali was old at that time.
@Naeem Islam man mercer took a beating from Morrison for 3 rounds..Burt Cooper broke his jaw in the first round and still went the distance. Only went down once in his career. Mercer fought good punchers too..Ali however if u landed a good left he went down. Ali was a great fighter don't get me wrong. But there are more boxers that had a better chin than him..just never hear about the others much.Its always about Ali.
@Naeem Islam yea he went down in the frazier fight..Foreman never really landed a good punch on Ali..Shavers rocked him a few times..Mercer never really got rocked. Or dazed..so yea as far as taking a punch..Mercer all the way..Foreman also had a good chin just as good as Alis lol.
The Ali who fought Cleveland Williams, in my eyes still the best ever performance by any Heavyweight,, would beat anyone past or present.The respect these 2 had for each other was fantastic to see.
Not really when you think about it. Ali looked real good against William because Cleveland was done as a legitimate heavyweight contender. He was old and had suffered a gunshot wound about 2 years earlier. He was *NOWHERE NEAR* the same fighter as he was against Liston in the fifties It's easy to look real good against inferior competition
@@christopherstein106 Agreed. I made the point that Ali looked real good in large part because Williams was bad for the reasons that I mentioned. No way did Ali pull the shuffle against Frazier. Or Chuvalo, as I recall.
He was also smart enough to leave Patterson when he fought Liston, Liston is the best slugger boxer in the history of the sport. When Liston hits you he’ll do long term damage.
@@Mr_jaujarana Ali was the fastest heavyweight boxer with hand and feat. So, in those terms Joe Lewis was slow, and everyone else too. Joe Lewis was fast to most normal heavyweights, but not Ali. Ali was in a different league. He moved like a light weight. Never see the likes of him again. Shows us that you don`t have to be a huge hitter to be a champion.
@@jeffriessman9693 Joe Frazier, Henry Cooper, Sonny Banks, and Chuck Wepner all was able to find hit and drop Ali and they were all slow boxers. You’re delusional if you believe that the great Joe Louis wouldn’t be able to hit Ali, not would he’d hit him and most likely KO him 💯.
@@bossplayermfs5972 that was after 3 to 4 year lay off. Look at his body, speed, weight, reflexes and stamina for the first Liston and Patterson fight. Louis stood no chance
I absolutely love "The Brown Bomber" he is without a doubt the 2nd greatest heavy weight boxer of all time but Ali was too fast, too smart, too slick, had an iron chin, outstanding head movement, simply amazing footwork, lightning fast hands, and an undeniable belief in himself and his incredible talent. Ali wins.
+TheHumbuckerboy And Foreman lost to a 32 yr old Ali....Just imagine if Ali was 24 yrs old like Foreman was...Just imagine a Ali that didn't have a 3.5 yr ban even, he wasn't the same after his return. A prime Ali gives anyone a run for their money bar none.
+Mr2damngood I think that Ali's 32 years was to his advantage in comparison to Foreman's 24 years. Ali's wisdom won him that fight. Foreman fought the dumbest tactics imaginable during that fight and essentially , needlessly wasted all of his energy when he could have won comfortably if he had paced himself sensibly.
Experience was a key role as well as his tactics, but as the champ foreman shoulda been ready to go the distance with Ali. Supposedly Ali watched footage of the few times Foreman gone up to the 6 or 7th round. Seeing how tired he was he thought thats how he'd get em. makem waste his energy and get en tired, the rest is history. But I agree Foreman couldve beat Ali.
+Mr2damngood young Ali would have lost to Foreman. When he was older he came up with the "rope a dope" because he wasn't as mobile. I doubt he would have came up with that plan if he was young.
Joe Louis was a very patient boxer, he wasn't so slow when someone was in trouble. He was very deliberate in being slow obviously the long extended streak he had of victory's would imply he knew what he was doing by not wasting energy.
That right there. I aint taking anything away from Ali but Joe Louis was technical and remember the video recording of him is off a bit so it makes him look slower but he was quick and also intellectually strategic at boxing like you said!
This video was during Ali's ban, he was 29-0.... but when Ali came back, he was nothing like his former self, but still took big hits from Frazier in the 15th round and got right up.. and even the Norton fight, he got his jaw broke in the 5th round and still finished a 15 round fight... so all that happened after this video, which means Cus didn't realize Ali COULD go long fights and not ''get caught up to''... and that was a non-prime Ali, just imagine a PRIME Ali fighting Joe Louis.... or even a prime Ali fighting Frazier, you wouldn't even know Frazier's name right now if Ali fought Frazier in Ali's prime... only Frazier was in his prime when they fought the first fight... and neither was in their primes in the last 2 fights.... still all great fights though.. the Thrilla in Manilla is the greatest fight of all time... bar none. This is a great video though, no 2 men in history are more stubborn than Ali and Cus.
+Ana Costellano u are right, most people just dont know about Alis incredible physique and maybe more than that his will and his stubbornness to win a fight
+Ana Castellano About the first match vs. Frazier, keep in mind that Alì couldn't fix a later date to prepare adequately the match as he usually would because he was afraid his licence might be revoked anytime. As the two later matches proved, he would have beaten Frazier even in that first match had the conditions been as usual. And yes, Alì wasn't in his prime after two years of stop.
tricky dick.. He stopped for 3½ years, not 2 years... and even if Ali ''prepared'' for the first Frazier fight, he still wasn't the same Ali, even if he would have won, he was nothing like his former self. But we both seem to agree with each other.
Yes, it was 3 and a half years. But the point is that he fought Bonavena in December and Frazier in following March. That's something even Alì fans do not seem to consider.
David Parkes no such thing as a great chin it's about how close the fighter is when he takes a hit and Ali was always able to slip punches because of his length and speed/reflexes and when he was close enough and not protected, he went down (cooper, Frazier)
Joe lewis was very humble and modest,Ali once said later in his career that he was surprised how modest Joe lewis was considering his achievements in boxing
@@Tom-dd5lm Joe Louis actually didn't fare well in his first match against Walcott, many even thought he lost. In the second match,Walcott decided to go for the finish for the fear of losing the decision and got caught. Also before all this happened,Walcott used to spar Joe occasionally and people said he gave Joe all the troubles in the world in sparring.
@@Tom-dd5lm Walcott was out of his prime too when he got the big fights,he even had quit fighting for a while before he got an offer to fight Joe. It's just that Walcott never got his due credit just because he lost to Rocky and Joe.
@@TheFitfather you are an idiot ali came after 3 and half years of lay off but guess what he beat everyone after coming back slower and heavier RIP TO ALL.
Ali never loosed by ko. NEVER. Never laying on the ground for long time. But almost all of the Best heavyweights loosed by ko...Joe Louis, Frazier, Foreman, Norton, Berbick, Holmes, Tyson, Holyfield,Lennox, W Klitschko...So I hope now all of u understand why ALI WAS THE GREATEST OF ALL TIME!
Ali got knocked out with a left hook by a british heavyweight at the end of a round. The corner used illegal smelling salts to revive him and admitted to it years later. He never lost by ko is technically true but not entirely accurate.
Billy Conn, in his 1941 fight with Louis, weighed in at 168 lbs, and staggered Louis several times in the fight. In the 12th round, he almost knocked him out with a left hook. Max Schmeling, at 190 lbs, knocked Louis out cold in 1936. Neither of those guys could have hurt Ali with their best shot. Louis didn't have anywhere near the chin that Ali had.
Henry Cooper, Sonny Banks, Joe Frazier, and Chuck Wepner all slow fighters were able to find hit and drop Ali wth is you talking about? The great Joe Louis was a patient he had the best trainer in the history of the sport Jack Blackburn who fought 2 of the greatest fighters in the history of boxing in the early 1900s. Joe “Old Master” Gans and Sam “Boston Bonecrusher “ Langford this man knowledge for years and Joe Louis only lost one time under this man cause he didn’t do what Blackburn said in that was in ‘36 against Max Schmeling. After that the man had a 12 year title run 25 title defenses and 22 of them were won by KO’s Ring Magazine’s greatest puncher of all time International World Boxing Organization’s greatest heavyweight boxer of all time based on scientific 🧪 research the only fighter to break a man’s vertebrae with those powerful short punches of his and you actually believe that he would be able to hit Ali??? Go get drug tested man quick, fast, and in a hurry.
@@bossplayermfs5972 Ali could circle him and jab him to death for 15 rounds if he wanted. Ali never got rocked until later in his career when his movement started to slow. Even with with way less movement he was still able to beat the hardest hitters and best fighters he faced too like foreman and Frazier. It’s impossible to think he wouldn’t beat Louis who did indeed fight only bums compared to Ali’s competition
Hows Joe Louis gonna beat Ali? Ali would literally stick and move for 15 rounds and frustrate the shit outta him. And even if Joe hit Ali he wouldn't get knocked out. Why? Well because I strongly believe that Joe Frazier,George Foreman, and Earnie Shavers hit WAY harder than the brown bomber ever did. And Ali ate punches from those dudes like they were a #7 on the menu at mcdonalds.
Joe louis maybe naturally didn't hit harder than those guys. But his technique, finishing and presision combined with his awesome power is what made him so great
Cus knew how great Ali was because Ali was a great friend of his and actually talked to each other about advise. Cus is one of the greatest coach of all time and Ali is one of the greatest fighters of all time
cus is right and wrong at the same time hes absolutely right that at that time nobody knew if ali could take a huge punch because at that point ali was soo ridiculously fast nobody had ever really nailed him, even liston didnt get many good shots in (although he did get some serious body shots in at 1 point for no effect). what ali later proved when his footspeed left him was that he could REALLY take a punch better than almost anybody in history. pre exile ali beats louis quite easily on points imo but post exile ali has a much tougher time of it, i dont see louis knocking him out (nobody ever did) but i see the fights being wars like ali frazier
good analysis; But Ali let Chuvalo hit him in the first fight to prove the point, he ended up going to the hospital ...but i believe he proved that point pre-exile.
trvth1s Cooper hit a perfect shot, you don't always have to be a heavy puncher; sometimes you can just be a really good boxer who knows how to cut a man short. It was a good boxer brawler that got pacquiao out, not a heavy puncher. doug jones was a vet and gave everyone a tough fight. they might have gotten their shots in, but in no case did they "whoop him"
***** That's true what you say but this video is comparing Ali and Louis. ''Cooper hit a perfect shot'' You do know that compubox named Joe Louis the most accurate boxer EVER....MOST ACCURATE boxer, not just heavyweight but BOXER EVER. Louis had economical footwork to go the distance. He had superb timing, accuracy and decent power, which slowed his opponents down which was good because Louis liked to fight in slow pace [unlike many of his opponents, which is something many people today ignore]. Louis was also superb at setting up his punches thanks to his jab. You're right that some not so big names like Jones and Cooper could catch anyone, that's how boxing is. But they had attributes which gave someone with a flawed defense like Ali problems. Louis had those attributes and then some.
trvth1s Louis also had some defensive problems of his own, and he was thoroughly out boxed by the light heavyweight champ (who was a true 175pd light heavy) for 13 rounds. Ali's speed and add reach - would give Louis problems; Prime Ali could move and battle for 15 rounds.. economics was not an issue. We are comparing the two greatest heavyweights in history, but Ali always got up and went the distance. Ali had everything sugar ray Robinson did but one punch power; and for it he became more elusive, and a maybe even a better combination puncher.
Took as clean a shot from Frazier in the first fight as you're ever gonna see. Frazier had one of the greatest left hooks in history. He knocked Ali down with it in the 1st fight and Ali got back up. Ali could take punishment in a fight. As great as Louis was, and he's the top heavyweight of all time IMO, in a fight against Ali he loses more often than not. Louis has trouble with movers, Walcott, Conn, and Pastor. None of them has Ali's speed and were also smaller.
Louis was great but Ali is right on this debate. And funny thing is that we would later find out what D'Amato wanted to know, how good was Ali at taking a punch. In fact he was too good for his own good, because later in his career he relied more and more on his iron chin to get throw victories, and that probably cost him his health. "One day you will get tagged like that in the ring and we will see how your legs behave". I think he did just fine for the rest off his career Cus lol. Ah and again, great respect for Louis, but he fought nobodies.
yea okay nobodies schelmelling both baers walcot charles bivins galentino canera marciano charles henry lewis braddock burman conn nova savold al those men arent bums
The greatest World Heavyweight wit the man who would mould one of the greatest World Heavyweight Champion of all time in the same frame.... this is History right there.
cus is a genius in boxing and could train any fighter to deal with anyone but he was barely ever right about ali, in other words he couldnt figure out ali that well. Also ali wouldve beaten joe lewis any day of the week at that time in his career
and what makes you think, that you are right? you are just a no good BUM yourself lol with the destiny video game as your avatar, you are not smart enough to comment about louis or ali ! go back to killing cartoons you sad fat reject
No question, at that time Ali was the modernized fighter. He was hard to hit due to his mobility. No heavy weight move like him except now Tyson Fury. Foreman punches seems harder than Joe Louis. Unfortunately, we will never know. Different era
ALI was right about Joe Louis not beating him, that's not even possible, ALI would be too much for Louis and he would just end up like Floyd Patterson when ALI faught him the first time lol
@@jamesanthony5681 I understand that Joe Louis was a great fighter, but compared to Ali, its not hard to see that the style of Joe Louis would be no match for the style of Ali, he would definitely lose, he doesn't have the speed, the reach, the height, the footwork or the ring IQ to match Ali, and he is stationary in his approach, whereas Ali would dance around the ring and not stay put in one spot for too long. Joe Louis is flatfooted compared to Ali, Styles make fights.
@@SirNino100 Do you realize that Joe Louis beat all comers and was heavyweight champ for - count them - 12 years? And you're telling me that he doesn't have the same ring IQ? BTW, what the frick is ring IQ and how do you know that? As far as dancing all night, let him dance. Let him pull out the double-shuffle, or do an Irish jig for all Joe would care. Joe Louis had the greatest line when he went up against Billy Conn (Irish, incidentally) when he said, "He can run, but he can't hide." And years ago when Ali derided Joe Louis for his 'Bum of the Month Club', the former great champ said to Ali "You would have been a member of that club." Now that's good. And that shut Ali up for the night. Ali was exactly 1" taller, 5 lbs heavier and had a 3" reach advantage over Louis. Tell me, how did Mike Tyson do against bigger fighters?
@@jamesanthony5681 Bill conn was beating Joe Louis until he decided to go for the knockout. If it was Ali instead of Bill conn he would have easily outpointed louis and won by unanimous decision
@@bullymaguire1811 Correct about Billy Conn. And correct about Ali, although Joe would've taken a heavyweight much more seriously than he would've a light heavy in Billy.
i have to agree with ali here. joe was a heavy hitter, but he would get trusted by a mobile boxer. all of the people that less fought stood in front of him. a match between ali and lewis would of ended the same way as rumble in the jungle. there will be some that will say ken norton and frazier 1 match. however, even ali admitted that he didn't train, and it was his fault.
Diallo Straight Talk bullshit. He trained as hard as ever for Frazier and still lost once, and would’ve lost their rubber match too had Ed Futch let Frazier fight on. Ali collapsed on his corner after Futch retired Frazier (who wanted to carry on). As far as Ken Norton goes, Ali himself admitted that he couldn’t beat the man. Was gifted 2 decisions infact, he lost all 3 fights but biased judges gave him the W 2 out of 3 times. Get your head off Ali’s ass and learn your boxing history.
@@procioneintubato ali did enough to win the second fight against nortan but he lost the third. Joe fraizer and Marvis frazker were later thankful to futch that he wasn't allowed to go the next round because of joe had taken anymore jabs to his eye. He would've went permanently blind
Ali's peak was the 60's. After the 3 year lay off, at age 28 in 1970..he could still dance, but he no longer had the RADAR in his head, to pull away from punches and not be hit. THIS WAS KEY TO HIS PEAK GREATNESS. Defense. The ability to hit and not be hit. In 63 with Doug Jones, he was still developing the Radar. Ali imitated Sugar Ray's style...But with RADAR IN THE HEAD, it made him even better defensively than Robinson, (who did get hit). If Ali never had the layoff, he would have kept that
Imagine a man possessing so many strong qualities all at once, A man who was an iconic historic and record-breaking sports figure, strong moral principles, physically gorgeous and stunningly handsome, warmhearted towards the common man and the down-trotten, humanitarian at a global scale, ability to be serious with a tremendous depth, using words with a lot of weight accordingly and can maneuver difficult conversations well, when in company with others he was known for always being light in spirit // joyous and humorous. He was superbly intelligent verbally, funny and witty on the spot. He was offered to teach poetry at Harvard even though he left high-school being considered illiterate. He was abundantly creative poetically, and brought verbal artistry to a field where-in it had never been imagined to be used. He ignited passion and new life to the sport of boxing and he invented new techniques and styles to boxing too. He was a humble man despite being one of the wealthiest and most famous on planet. He was a spiritual leader and voice of faith. He always saw eye to eye with anyone he met no matter their status. He was generous with his time and money. He was a sensitive man, it’s obvious to see how deeply he cared for the well being of anyone suffering. He pro-actively used his hard earned success to give back to those who needed it the most. He bravely spoke up for his beliefs at a time and place were you could get killed for doing so, especially risky for a man in the spotlight. HIS CONFIDNECE, TRUST AND BELIEF IN HIMSELF !!!!! What a breath of fresh air ~~ … Just to hear someone so comfortable speaking that positively and encouragingly about himself? Who else could pull that off without coming across as annoying? When he does it, we only look at him fondly, because he does it in such a charming manner- a skill / ability hard to teach or study. So many have low self worth today, seeing no light whatsoever within themselves… if only we had 10 more of him. I’m sure anybody can agree, we all feel wonderfully uplifted when we observe how he carries himself with such pride, respect and warmth. ALI ❤ A man of action, a man of his word. A man with a strong, warm heart. A man fiercely bold and brave - a man full of love and sincerity. What a fascinating man to observe. Brilliant we can look back at media like this, immortalizing him in a way that would not have been possible had he existed 200 years ago. Ali is the best man for admiration in my eyes, what a life he lead.
the ali that fought williams in 1967 at the top of his dancing game would have danced moved and pumped the jab and hit louis with good shots from the outside all night and Louis was an explosive puncher but Ali would be able to take those punches from the power punchers as he proved against Norton Foreman Frazier Shavers and even Holmes who hit him at will when he was shot to hell at like 39 years old he still didnt go down
Keeran Rajan prime Ali. He would’ve beat any heavyweight before or after at that time. Too fast, still had some power in his punches and the chin probably is only second to Jake Lamotta
Actually, it was Nov 1966 in the Houston Astrodome against Williams. And I can guarantee you that Ali would NOT have pulled that double-shuffle nonsense against Louis, lest he'd end up on his back.
By Eddie Futch’s own admission he said Jack Blackburn kept Louis away from guys who move, plus Billy Conn was a light heavyweight . Tough as hell sure, but still just a light heavyweight and he was busting Joe up behind the jab. Ali is a nightmare for Joe every which way. It’s not about who has the bigger punch, it’s about who takes the who’s solid punches better. That’s the guy who becomes the boss in there... Ali did it with Foreman and Holyfield did it with Tyson etc. Ali would have bossed him and been the more likely man to get the knockout.
By Eddie Futch’s own admission he said Jack Blackburn kept Louis away from guys who move, plus Billy Conn was a light heavyweight . Tough as hell sure, but still just a light heavyweight and he was busting Joe up behind the jab. Ali is a nightmare for Joe every which way. It’s not about who has the bigger punch, it’s about who takes the who’s solid punches better. That’s the guy who becomes the boss in there... Ali did it with Foreman and Holyfield did it with Tyson etc. Ali would have bossed him and been the more likely man to get the knockout.
@@Indervallervooooooo Ali wouldn't have knocked out Joe Louis. Joe had legitimate knockout power; Ali didn't have *THAT* kind of power. Louis would've given Ali trouble in close and against the ropes where Joe was especially dangerous. Conn was ahead on points in their 1st fight, but got careless and went for the knockout. Huge mistake. Louis was deadly on rematches, as he was against Schmeling and Conn.
1) Ali 2) Louis or 1) Louis 2) Ali Greatest Two Heavyweights Ever 3) Gets Difficult..... Marciano, Langford, Tunney one of those guys takes the third spot 4) Klitschko
The thing that i admire the most about ali after watching some of his fights and mainly his big ones is that this dude could take a punch,a bomb he absolutly refused to accept defeat,that s very strong mindset almost childish because of his refusel to not get what he wants,his rivalry with smoking joe,not many people realise but at the end of the fight with a few rounds to go before the punch that sent him to the floor there is another punch(in the clinch)where joe s punch snaps alis upward and the crowd gasps,that punch was :(im sad to say it he s downfall,it messed him up started something im not talking about his condition because im no trauma expert but that punch was so violent that snap so sharp that it must have done something to ali,but even after hes diagnostic even after stepping in the ring with pd he could still take a punch freaking amazing :(..... As for joe he steped into the ring with forman and was never the same...
Thing is Joe had good footwork, you don't really see it much because the opponents he fought didn't, so he didn't use it. Watch the start of the max Baer louis fight and keep your eyes on Joe's feet. It wouldn't of been a asset to him in that era
Great video! As good as Joe was, Ali faced a lot tougher opposition than Joe Louis. Ironic that he was 'tagged' by some of the best punchers ever - Frazier, Foreman, Shavers - and still came through. My money on Ali
Cus: "You've never been hit that way...." Lets see what happens when it catch up to you" "One day they'll tag you like that if you ever get back in the ring, and when they do tag you like that, we'll see how your legs behave" Joe Frazier's left hook to Ali dropping him in their first fight confirmed Cuss' theory.
I had the vinyl album "The Thrill Of Sports" where one of the commentators said that the hardest punch they had ever seen thrown knocked 2 of the opponents teeth through their mouthpiece and through their lips and he fell flat on his face. That punch was thrown by Joe Louis. George Forman, Joe Frasier, Mike Tyson, none of them ever threw a punch that hard. If Cassius Clay/ Muhammad Ali ever got hit with a punch like that the results would of been the same, he would of fallen flat on his face
LOL Cooper knocked him down when he was still developing as a fighter, you see in the rematch Cooper couldn't land a glove on him... In those 2-3 years Ali totally became a different monster, the EVOLUTION at its best! The brown bomber would get toyed around and sent on a bench
wow this is so interesting and different ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,and Alis breakdown of Louis at the end is great,,,,imagine insetad of Louis they were both discussing Tyson
Cus D'Amato is so adorable.. they both looks like adorable kids arguing each other..
True lol
thats what dont see is the knowledge what i see is a old man sharing wisdom while busting ali's balls for fun .
ameerul aqmal sound gay
I know right I love when Muhummad is argumentative he is too cute. Lol 😂
This is so lovely to watch , two legends when both took on the world and loved each other arguing 🤣👌👌👌👌
Ali said when joe Louis is in the room i’m no longer the greatest. The respect he had in real life and off camera shows his class
That's true but c'mon Ali was being modest he would dance rings around louis
@Flak you're right with the opinion part. But Ali was simply too fast for Louis. Doesn't mean Louis was a bum tho.
"If he hit me once, I ain't gonna let him hit me the second time".
-The GOAT. Muhammad Ali
Greg Foliaki
If someone like Liston or Foreman hit him once with a clear shot, he'd be in the hospital.
Michael Trumph That's stupid, considering Earnie Shavers hit Ali square in the jaw, and Ali took it. A lot of people contend that Shavers is the hardest puncher ever.
Then how do explain the fact that a skinny HW in Cooper (a cruiserweight by today's standards) and Joe Frazier floored him ?!?
Shavers's didn't hit him clean and by the latter rounds one's power and stamina diminishes and that transfer's into his punches.
GhettoMist Earnie Shavers wasn't the same fighter, he once was when he fought Ali and the example of that is Earnie had stamina problems and was only looking for one big punch.
Michael Trumph Joe Frazier had one of the best if not the best left hook in all of boxing. How are you blaming Ali for falling to it and getting back up on a 3-count when the same hook and kept folks down for 30-count.
I think Ali was around in the hardest era as far as standard of opponents go. Look who he fought Liston, Patterson, Frazier, Foreman, Spinks, Cooper, Shavers any of them Could dominate an era
DJW5 definitely the best time for heavy weight fighters
DJW5 don’t think it was better than the 90s, its debatable tho
@@johnsean122 right there was bowe Lewis Tyson holyfield razor Holmes pretty ok
@Naeem Islam80s*
Indeed
Little did he know , he was talking to one of the greatest chins in the game.
Dman u mean the greatest chin
The greatest chin. Foreman.
@Naeem Islam no Mercer had a way better chin..went down once..Ali has been down twice..well 3..if u count Wepner..so that shows Mercer had a way better chin..Ali has that overrated chin..then again Ali never really took a bad beating. Except Holmes. Which Ali was old at that time.
@Naeem Islam man mercer took a beating from Morrison for 3 rounds..Burt Cooper broke his jaw in the first round and still went the distance. Only went down once in his career. Mercer fought good punchers too..Ali however if u landed a good left he went down. Ali was a great fighter don't get me wrong. But there are more boxers that had a better chin than him..just never hear about the others much.Its always about Ali.
@Naeem Islam yea he went down in the frazier fight..Foreman never really landed a good punch on Ali..Shavers rocked him a few times..Mercer never really got rocked. Or dazed..so yea as far as taking a punch..Mercer all the way..Foreman also had a good chin just as good as Alis lol.
Respect to both. RIP
To think that there was a time people questioned Ali's ability to take a punch?! haha
Matthew Stephens He was a lot easier to floor when he was young
Michael Trumph where's ur evidence
Zidan S Does Henry Cooper ring a bell ?
Michael Trumph yeah but he got back up thats te point
Zidan S He was heavier and stronger in the second part of his career.
R.I.P Ali and Cus.
Muhammad Ali is the perfect boxer. Tall, iron chin, God gifted footwork & speed, long reach, painful flicking jab, accurate.
+GamerzDailyFix < also punching power while moving backwards..Respect
He is not the perfect boxer. Nobody is. But if there was someone close to perfection it still wouldn't be him.
Cryer24597 I'm guessing you've watched 2 fights and classed Ali as "the greatest" before even making your own decisions. Sheep
and open to the left hook
+Cryer24597 Definitely lying. If you watched all of his fights you wouldn't call him perfect.
I can't get enough of this, this is hilarious.
“Hold it man, we both can’t talk at the same time”
Ali was funny as hell😭😭
The Ali who fought Cleveland Williams, in my eyes still the best ever performance by any Heavyweight,, would beat anyone past or present.The respect these 2 had for each other was fantastic to see.
Not really when you think about it. Ali looked real good against William because Cleveland was done as a legitimate heavyweight contender. He was old and had suffered a gunshot wound about 2 years earlier. He was *NOWHERE NEAR* the same fighter as he was against Liston in the fifties It's easy to look real good against inferior competition
That was art ali did the same too thing to at least 5 greats poetry in motion
@@jamesanthony5681Ali still would have beat him as he beat a prime foreman.
@@christopherstein106 Agreed. I made the point that Ali looked real good in large part because Williams was bad for the reasons that I mentioned. No way did Ali pull the shuffle against Frazier. Or Chuvalo, as I recall.
Cus D'Amato... the man who created Mike Tyson :)
Electric_Eye No, the man who discovered and uncovered TYSON.
Only God creates !
Ali helped create Tyson
He was also smart enough to leave Patterson when he fought Liston, Liston is the best slugger boxer in the history of the sport. When Liston hits you he’ll do long term damage.
@@osmgul6237 right bro 💪
OSM GUL no he created mike he re wired that man into a boxing death machine
Ali: “Joe Louis had a bum-a-month club...”. “ Slow Joe Lewis ... How’s he going to hit me?”. Ali was hilarious ... and truly the greatest.
Joe Louis was nothing but slow
@@Mr_jaujarana Ali was the fastest heavyweight boxer with hand and feat. So, in those terms Joe Lewis was slow, and everyone else too. Joe Lewis was fast to most normal heavyweights, but not Ali. Ali was in a different league. He moved like a light weight. Never see the likes of him again. Shows us that you don`t have to be a huge hitter to be a champion.
@@jeffriessman9693 Joe Frazier, Henry Cooper, Sonny Banks, and Chuck Wepner all was able to find hit and drop Ali and they were all slow boxers. You’re delusional if you believe that the great Joe Louis wouldn’t be able to hit Ali, not would he’d hit him and most likely KO him 💯.
@@bossplayermfs5972 that was after 3 to 4 year lay off. Look at his body, speed, weight, reflexes and stamina for the first Liston and Patterson fight. Louis stood no chance
@@alljuniors1 Liston and Patterson were both old men that doesn’t count, nice try though kid.
I absolutely love "The Brown Bomber" he is without a doubt the 2nd greatest heavy weight boxer of all time but Ali was too fast, too smart, too slick, had an iron chin, outstanding head movement, simply amazing footwork, lightning fast hands, and an undeniable belief in himself and his incredible talent. Ali wins.
+Kevin Fuller George Foreman stated that he Believed that Louis was the best HW ever.
+TheHumbuckerboy And Foreman lost to a 32 yr old Ali....Just imagine if Ali was 24 yrs old like Foreman was...Just imagine a Ali that didn't have a 3.5 yr ban even, he wasn't the same after his return. A prime Ali gives anyone a run for their money bar none.
+Mr2damngood I think that Ali's 32 years was to his advantage in comparison to Foreman's 24 years. Ali's wisdom won him that fight. Foreman fought the dumbest tactics imaginable during that fight and essentially , needlessly wasted all of his energy when he could have won comfortably if he had paced himself sensibly.
Experience was a key role as well as his tactics, but as the champ foreman shoulda been ready to go the distance with Ali. Supposedly Ali watched footage of the few times Foreman gone up to the 6 or 7th round. Seeing how tired he was he thought thats how he'd get em. makem waste his energy and get en tired, the rest is history. But I agree Foreman couldve beat Ali.
+Mr2damngood young Ali would have lost to Foreman. When he was older he came up with the "rope a dope" because he wasn't as mobile. I doubt he would have came up with that plan if he was young.
Joe Louis was a very patient boxer, he wasn't so slow when someone was in trouble. He was very deliberate in being slow obviously the long extended streak he had of victory's would imply he knew what he was doing by not wasting energy.
Stop troling saying dumb quotes him saying enough is the reason he would be destroyed and he was way outdated dummy
That right there. I aint taking anything away from Ali but Joe Louis was technical and remember the video recording of him is off a bit so it makes him look slower but he was quick and also intellectually strategic at boxing like you said!
Joe caught jersey joe, and imo jersey joe moved better than ali so thats good enough for me
Louis wins
I just remembered Ali is no longer with us. 😭😭 R.I.P TO THE GREATEST OF ALL TIME
"We can sing together, but, we can't talk together." Classic Ali!!
This video was during Ali's ban, he was 29-0.... but when Ali came back, he was nothing like his former self, but still took big hits from Frazier in the 15th round and got right up.. and even the Norton fight, he got his jaw broke in the 5th round and still finished a 15 round fight... so all that happened after this video, which means Cus didn't realize Ali COULD go long fights and not ''get caught up to''... and that was a non-prime Ali, just imagine a PRIME Ali fighting Joe Louis.... or even a prime Ali fighting Frazier, you wouldn't even know Frazier's name right now if Ali fought Frazier in Ali's prime... only Frazier was in his prime when they fought the first fight... and neither was in their primes in the last 2 fights.... still all great fights though.. the Thrilla in Manilla is the greatest fight of all time... bar none. This is a great video though, no 2 men in history are more stubborn than Ali and Cus.
+Ana Costellano u are right, most people just dont know about Alis incredible physique and maybe more than that
his will and his stubbornness to win a fight
+Ana Castellano About the first match vs. Frazier, keep in mind that Alì couldn't fix a later date to prepare adequately the match as he usually would because he was afraid his licence might be revoked anytime. As the two later matches proved, he would have beaten Frazier even in that first match had the conditions been as usual. And yes, Alì wasn't in his prime after two years of stop.
tricky dick.. He stopped for 3½ years, not 2 years... and even if Ali ''prepared'' for the first Frazier fight, he still wasn't the same Ali, even if he would have won, he was nothing like his former self. But we both seem to agree with each other.
Yes, it was 3 and a half years. But the point is that he fought Bonavena in December and Frazier in following March. That's something even Alì fans do not seem to consider.
tricky dick.. Yeah, that's true, but even so, it still wasn't the same Ali, prime Ali would have embarrassed Bonavena and Frazier.
Ali was the greatest. I love this interview lol
MrThekidisback ali was a great entertainer as well as a legendary great boxer
at 2:59 Cus was wrong, Ali proved to have a great chin! Great Video.
+David Parkes what you saying ??? cus are all right frazier tag ali
same for flat foot ken norton
Way better chin than Joe Louis
David Parkes no such thing as a great chin it's about how close the fighter is when he takes a hit and Ali was always able to slip punches because of his length and speed/reflexes and when he was close enough and not protected, he went down (cooper, Frazier)
David Parkes actually CU's was right six months later Frazier did what CUS Said
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This is amazing. You have to respect the boxing IQ on both of these greats.
ali vs the brown bomber both in their prime, fuck me... what a fight!
Joe lewis was very humble and modest,Ali once said later in his career that he was surprised how modest Joe lewis was considering his achievements in boxing
Absolutely love this. Two legends
Cus, Louis, Ali..they don't make them like that anymore. RIP to these incredible staples of boxing
I love these two together there almost like a comedy team despite their banter you can tell their is huge respect from both of them
Thanks for putting this up! I had a great time watching it.
Jersey Joe Walcott could have posed a bigger challenge to Ali,no one seems to give Walcott much credit for his style which was much ahead of his time.
That is a good point, Ken Norton gave Ali trouble because of his style.
I seriously doubt it, Joe Louis was said to be sloppy and slow and people thought he had no chance against jersey, yet Louis beat him.
@@Tom-dd5lm Joe Louis actually didn't fare well in his first match against Walcott, many even thought he lost. In the second match,Walcott decided to go for the finish for the fear of losing the decision and got caught. Also before all this happened,Walcott used to spar Joe occasionally and people said he gave Joe all the troubles in the world in sparring.
@@ankitpatra5042 I'm saying, Joe Louis beat Jersey when he was way out of his prime, sloppy and slow
@@Tom-dd5lm Walcott was out of his prime too when he got the big fights,he even had quit fighting for a while before he got an offer to fight Joe. It's just that Walcott never got his due credit just because he lost to Rocky and Joe.
nobody could touch ali in his prime. his reflexes were unbelievable in the 60's.
This is a classic! My respect to Ali...he is the greatest heavyweight of all time.
this is Ali's strength!
he can perfectly think and analyse other fighters game, past and present!
Ali is 100% right here.
nah g, joe would expose ali with feints
@@TheFitfather you are an idiot
ali came after 3 and half years of lay off but guess what he beat everyone after coming back slower and heavier
RIP TO ALL.
@@nepaliguy6537 Ali would be beat by Louis. Ali struggled against technical fighters
@@nepaliguy6537 Who is Joe Frazier again?
@@chestercastaneda4920 big ali fan but don't respect joe frazier like that
Rip to both
I wonder how he would feel about ali after the 70's when he proved that he could take a punch
This is hilarious! Muhammad and Cus make quite a good comedy act -- excellent banter.
What an amazing video!! thank you TheRancidos, you can tell they enjoy each others banter off the camera.
Ali was spitting straight facts here. Definitely the GOAT.
Ali never loosed by ko. NEVER. Never laying on the ground for long time. But almost all of the Best heavyweights loosed by ko...Joe Louis, Frazier, Foreman, Norton, Berbick, Holmes, Tyson, Holyfield,Lennox, W Klitschko...So I hope now all of u understand why ALI WAS THE GREATEST OF ALL TIME!
Ali got knocked out with a left hook by a british heavyweight at the end of a round. The corner used illegal smelling salts to revive him and admitted to it years later.
He never lost by ko is technically true but not entirely accurate.
@@turbo8628.. shaddup 😡
I could watch these two all day. Intellectual boxers. Cus is an encyclopedia in boxing.
Just might be the best video on youtube. Thanks for uploading!
Billy Conn, in his 1941 fight with Louis, weighed in at 168 lbs, and staggered Louis several times in the fight. In the 12th round, he almost knocked him out with a left hook.
Max Schmeling, at 190 lbs, knocked Louis out cold in 1936.
Neither of those guys could have hurt Ali with their best shot.
Louis didn't have anywhere near the chin that Ali had.
Henry Cooper, Sonny Banks, Joe Frazier, and Chuck Wepner all slow fighters were able to find hit and drop Ali wth is you talking about? The great Joe Louis was a patient he had the best trainer in the history of the sport Jack Blackburn who fought 2 of the greatest fighters in the history of boxing in the early 1900s. Joe “Old Master” Gans and Sam “Boston Bonecrusher “ Langford this man knowledge for years and Joe Louis only lost one time under this man cause he didn’t do what Blackburn said in that was in ‘36 against Max Schmeling. After that the man had a 12 year title run 25 title defenses and 22 of them were won by KO’s Ring Magazine’s greatest puncher of all time International World Boxing Organization’s greatest heavyweight boxer of all time based on scientific 🧪 research the only fighter to break a man’s vertebrae with those powerful short punches of his and you actually believe that he would be able to hit Ali??? Go get drug tested man quick, fast, and in a hurry.
@@bossplayermfs5972 Ali could circle him and jab him to death for 15 rounds if he wanted. Ali never got rocked until later in his career when his movement started to slow. Even with with way less movement he was still able to beat the hardest hitters and best fighters he faced too like foreman and Frazier. It’s impossible to think he wouldn’t beat Louis who did indeed fight only bums compared to Ali’s competition
@@ItsAlexlive 🧢🧢🧢
People don’t understand Joe Louis is a tank, fast in the hands, and powerful. All he needs to do is run a set of combos on Ali to the gut.
I need to watch this movie again. Amazing
This is amazing. I love it.
Hows Joe Louis gonna beat Ali? Ali would literally stick and move for 15 rounds and frustrate the shit outta him. And even if Joe hit Ali he wouldn't get knocked out. Why? Well because I strongly believe that Joe Frazier,George Foreman, and Earnie Shavers hit WAY harder than the brown bomber ever did. And Ali ate punches from those dudes like they were a #7 on the menu at mcdonalds.
exactly! finally someone with some common fucking sense in here
Joe louis maybe naturally didn't hit harder than those guys. But his technique, finishing and presision combined with his awesome power is what made him so great
cool man and the sky is blue..any other brain busters?
Slimmy D just shows you don't know what u on about if u think those guys hit way harder... don't cry. louise is one of there hardest hitters ever
Daniel Ebrey young George foreman would kill him in 3 rounds.
ali >>>> all the athlet in every sport
As non-muslim I love Ali as a human being and a great pugilist, or the greatest pugilist
Cus knew how great Ali was because Ali was a great friend of his and actually talked to each other about advise. Cus is one of the greatest coach of all time and Ali is one of the greatest fighters of all time
FACT…before the epic “Rumble in The Jungle”, Ali called Cus for advice on how to handle Big George Foreman
These little gems are what you tubes all about
ain't it though
cus is right and wrong at the same time hes absolutely right that at that time nobody knew if ali could take a huge punch because at that point ali was soo ridiculously fast nobody had ever really nailed him, even liston didnt get many good shots in (although he did get some serious body shots in at 1 point for no effect).
what ali later proved when his footspeed left him was that he could REALLY take a punch better than almost anybody in history.
pre exile ali beats louis quite easily on points imo but post exile ali has a much tougher time of it, i dont see louis knocking him out (nobody ever did) but i see the fights being wars like ali frazier
good analysis; But Ali let Chuvalo hit him in the first fight to prove the point, he ended up going to the hospital ...but i believe he proved that point pre-exile.
180lbs light puncher Cooper almost put Ali to sleep.
Doug Jones almost whopped him as well
trvth1s Cooper hit a perfect shot, you don't always have to be a heavy puncher; sometimes you can just be a really good boxer who knows how to cut a man short. It was a good boxer brawler that got pacquiao out, not a heavy puncher.
doug jones was a vet and gave everyone a tough fight. they might have gotten their shots in, but in no case did they "whoop him"
***** That's true what you say but this video is comparing Ali and Louis.
''Cooper hit a perfect shot''
You do know that compubox named Joe Louis the most accurate boxer EVER....MOST ACCURATE boxer, not just heavyweight but BOXER EVER.
Louis had economical footwork to go the distance. He had superb timing, accuracy and decent power, which slowed his opponents down which was good because Louis liked to fight in slow pace [unlike many of his opponents, which is something many people today ignore]. Louis was also superb at setting up his punches thanks to his jab.
You're right that some not so big names like Jones and Cooper could catch anyone, that's how boxing is. But they had attributes which gave someone with a flawed defense like Ali problems. Louis had those attributes and then some.
trvth1s Louis also had some defensive problems of his own, and he was thoroughly out boxed by the light heavyweight champ (who was a true 175pd light heavy) for 13 rounds.
Ali's speed and add reach - would give Louis problems; Prime Ali could move and battle for 15 rounds.. economics was not an issue.
We are comparing the two greatest heavyweights in history, but Ali always got up and went the distance. Ali had everything sugar ray Robinson did but one punch power; and for it he became more elusive, and a maybe even a better combination puncher.
Took as clean a shot from Frazier in the first fight as you're ever gonna see. Frazier had one of the greatest left hooks in history. He knocked Ali down with it in the 1st fight and Ali got back up. Ali could take punishment in a fight. As great as Louis was, and he's the top heavyweight of all time IMO, in a fight against Ali he loses more often than not. Louis has trouble with movers, Walcott, Conn, and Pastor. None of them has Ali's speed and were also smaller.
Probably the coolest thing that's ever happened or ever will !
Two of boxings absolute legends!
Louis was great but Ali is right on this debate. And funny thing is that we would later find out what D'Amato wanted to know, how good was Ali at taking a punch. In fact he was too good for his own good, because later in his career he relied more and more on his iron chin to get throw victories, and that probably cost him his health.
"One day you will get tagged like that in the ring and we will see how your legs behave". I think he did just fine for the rest off his career Cus lol. Ah and again, great respect for Louis, but he fought nobodies.
+Daniel Matos Unfair to say he fought nobodies. Walcott, Carnera, Baer, Braddock, Conn, Charles, Marciano...
@Cryer24597 All a man can do is beat the best in his own day.
You don’t know boxing if you think Joe fought nobodies. Also Joe Louis lost 4 of his prime years to WW2 yet nobody talks about it
yea okay nobodies schelmelling both baers walcot charles bivins galentino canera marciano charles henry lewis braddock burman conn nova savold al those men arent bums
George Foreman would easily destroy Louis in 2 rounds.
and Ali beat Foreman. (because he was smarter)
Ali would beat easily Louis...
thats the trainer of Mike Tyson who told Tyson 'You can be the champ of the world' Tyson believed in it and made history
I love watching this video. I never had a father figure and god bless people like cus
Somebody should put these old clips on dvd....this is great stuff!!!!
lol ali impersonating joe louis had me dying
Muhammad Ali the greatest....
The greatest World Heavyweight wit the man who would mould one of the greatest World Heavyweight Champion of all time in the same frame.... this is History right there.
Brilliant video.
cus is a genius in boxing and could train any fighter to deal with anyone but he was barely ever right about ali, in other words he couldnt figure out ali that well. Also ali wouldve beaten joe lewis any day of the week at that time in his career
and what makes you think, that you are right? you are just a no good BUM yourself lol with the destiny video game as your avatar, you are not smart enough to comment about louis or ali ! go back to killing cartoons you sad fat reject
WingChunNun you feel obligated to put a coment like this ?
He was right to predict Joe Frazier would beat Ali on his return
No question, at that time Ali was the modernized fighter. He was hard to hit due to his mobility. No heavy weight move like him except now Tyson Fury. Foreman punches seems harder than Joe Louis. Unfortunately, we will never know. Different era
@@aksyn47 nah they weren’t and Louis was pin point accurate
I agree with ali.He would be able to nullify louis all night.
Beautiful
Very good video. I hope there are a lot more.
ALI was right about Joe Louis not beating him, that's not even possible, ALI would be too much for Louis and he would just end up like Floyd Patterson when ALI faught him the first time lol
*fought*
LOL. You're comparing Joe Louis with Floyd Patterson in terms of the same outcome had Joe fought Ali? Puhhhllleeeeeaaaaase!
@@jamesanthony5681 I understand that Joe Louis was a great fighter, but compared to Ali, its not hard to see that the style of Joe Louis would be no match for the style of Ali, he would definitely lose, he doesn't have the speed, the reach, the height, the footwork or the ring IQ to match Ali, and he is stationary in his approach, whereas Ali would dance around the ring and not stay put in one spot for too long.
Joe Louis is flatfooted compared to Ali, Styles make fights.
@@SirNino100 Do you realize that Joe Louis beat all comers and was heavyweight champ for - count them - 12 years? And you're telling me that he doesn't have the same ring IQ? BTW, what the frick is ring IQ and how do you know that?
As far as dancing all night, let him dance. Let him pull out the double-shuffle, or do an Irish jig for all Joe would care. Joe Louis had the greatest line when he went up against Billy Conn (Irish, incidentally) when he said, "He can run, but he can't hide." And years ago when Ali derided Joe Louis for his 'Bum of the Month Club', the former great champ said to Ali "You would have been a member of that club." Now that's good. And that shut Ali up for the night.
Ali was exactly 1" taller, 5 lbs heavier and had a 3" reach advantage over Louis. Tell me, how did Mike Tyson do against bigger fighters?
@@jamesanthony5681 Bill conn was beating Joe Louis until he decided to go for the knockout. If it was Ali instead of Bill conn he would have easily outpointed louis and won by unanimous decision
@@bullymaguire1811 Correct about Billy Conn. And correct about Ali, although Joe would've taken a heavyweight much more seriously than he would've a light heavy in Billy.
i have to agree with ali here. joe was a heavy hitter, but he would get trusted by a mobile boxer. all of the people that less fought stood in front of him. a match between ali and lewis would of ended the same way as rumble in the jungle.
there will be some that will say ken norton and frazier 1 match. however, even ali admitted that he didn't train, and it was his fault.
Diallo Straight Talk bullshit. He trained as hard as ever for Frazier and still lost once, and would’ve lost their rubber match too had Ed Futch let Frazier fight on. Ali collapsed on his corner after Futch retired Frazier (who wanted to carry on). As far as Ken Norton goes, Ali himself admitted that he couldn’t beat the man. Was gifted 2 decisions infact, he lost all 3 fights but biased judges gave him the W 2 out of 3 times. Get your head off Ali’s ass and learn your boxing history.
@@procioneintubato ali did enough to win the second fight against nortan but he lost the third. Joe fraizer and Marvis frazker were later thankful to futch that he wasn't allowed to go the next round because of joe had taken anymore jabs to his eye. He would've went permanently blind
Ali's peak was the 60's. After the 3 year lay off, at age 28 in 1970..he could still dance, but he no longer had the RADAR in his head, to pull away from punches and not be hit. THIS WAS KEY TO HIS PEAK GREATNESS. Defense. The ability to hit and not be hit. In 63 with Doug Jones, he was still developing the Radar. Ali imitated Sugar Ray's style...But with RADAR IN THE HEAD, it made him even better defensively than Robinson, (who did get hit). If Ali never had the layoff, he would have kept that
Imagine a man possessing so many strong qualities all at once,
A man who was an iconic historic and record-breaking sports figure, strong moral principles, physically gorgeous and stunningly handsome, warmhearted towards the common man and the down-trotten, humanitarian at a global scale, ability to be serious with a tremendous depth, using words with a lot of weight accordingly and can maneuver difficult conversations well, when in company with others he was known for always being light in spirit // joyous and humorous. He was superbly intelligent verbally, funny and witty on the spot. He was offered to teach poetry at Harvard even though he left high-school being considered illiterate. He was abundantly creative poetically, and brought verbal artistry to a field where-in it had never been imagined to be used. He ignited passion and new life to the sport of boxing and he invented new techniques and styles to boxing too.
He was a humble man despite being one of the wealthiest and most famous on planet. He was a spiritual leader and voice of faith. He always saw eye to eye with anyone he met no matter their status. He was generous with his time and money. He was a sensitive man, it’s obvious to see how deeply he cared for the well being of anyone suffering. He pro-actively used his hard earned success to give back to those who needed it the most. He bravely spoke up for his beliefs at a time and place were you could get killed for doing so, especially risky for a man in the spotlight.
HIS CONFIDNECE, TRUST AND BELIEF IN HIMSELF !!!!! What a breath of fresh air ~~
… Just to hear someone so comfortable speaking that positively and encouragingly about himself? Who else could pull that off without coming across as annoying? When he does it, we only look at him fondly, because he does it in such a charming manner- a skill / ability hard to teach or study.
So many have low self worth today, seeing no light whatsoever within themselves… if only we had 10 more of him. I’m sure anybody can agree, we all feel wonderfully uplifted when we observe how he carries himself with such pride, respect and warmth.
ALI ❤ A man of action, a man of his word. A man with a strong, warm heart. A man fiercely bold and brave - a man full of love and sincerity.
What a fascinating man to observe. Brilliant we can look back at media like this, immortalizing him in a way that would not have been possible had he existed 200 years ago.
Ali is the best man for admiration in my eyes, what a life he lead.
I feel like Cus inspired Ali a lot in these little talks. Ali was able to take hits.
IF ALI explains you HOW he would fight against Luis YOU CAN ONLY SAY ITS 100% TRUE! Greatest of all time!💪💪💪
You can never underestimate a prime Joe Louis. He has the ability to defeat just about any boxer from any time in history. that includes Ali.
@@Pedro_Le_Chef what about Mike Tyson
@@denissssss8579 Even Tyson.
Cus Damato's two favorite fighters were Joe louis and Muhammad Ali.
@@denissssss8579Louis kills Tyson.
Ali's impressions of other fighters were so on point.
This is so awesome
the ali that fought williams in 1967 at the top of his dancing game would have danced moved and pumped the jab and hit louis with good shots from the outside all night and Louis was an explosive puncher but Ali would be able to take those punches from the power punchers as he proved against Norton Foreman Frazier Shavers and even Holmes who hit him at will when he was shot to hell at like 39 years old he still didnt go down
Keeran Rajan prime Ali. He would’ve beat any heavyweight before or after at that time. Too fast, still had some power in his punches and the chin probably is only second to Jake Lamotta
Actually, it was Nov 1966 in the Houston Astrodome against Williams. And I can guarantee you that Ali would NOT have pulled that double-shuffle nonsense against Louis, lest he'd end up on his back.
By Eddie Futch’s own admission he said Jack Blackburn kept Louis away from guys who move, plus Billy Conn was a light heavyweight . Tough as hell sure, but still just a light heavyweight and he was busting Joe up behind the jab. Ali is a nightmare for Joe every which way. It’s not about who has the bigger punch, it’s about who takes the who’s solid punches better. That’s the guy who becomes the boss in there... Ali did it with Foreman and Holyfield did it with Tyson etc. Ali would have bossed him and been the more likely man to get the knockout.
By Eddie Futch’s own admission he said Jack Blackburn kept Louis away from guys who move, plus Billy Conn was a light heavyweight . Tough as hell sure, but still just a light heavyweight and he was busting Joe up behind the jab. Ali is a nightmare for Joe every which way. It’s not about who has the bigger punch, it’s about who takes the who’s solid punches better. That’s the guy who becomes the boss in there... Ali did it with Foreman and Holyfield did it with Tyson etc. Ali would have bossed him and been the more likely man to get the knockout.
@@Indervallervooooooo Ali wouldn't have knocked out Joe Louis. Joe had legitimate knockout power; Ali didn't have *THAT* kind of power. Louis would've given Ali trouble in close and against the ropes where Joe was especially dangerous.
Conn was ahead on points in their 1st fight, but got careless and went for the knockout. Huge mistake. Louis was deadly on rematches, as he was against Schmeling and Conn.
Two legends but I agree with Ali on this one
greaaaat vid pal !
Ali's footwork influenced boxing greatly. He was as smooth as gravy.
I am the Greatest!
doin my little shuffle
Fascinating
Mike would cry like a baby watching this!
1) Ali 2) Louis or 1) Louis 2) Ali Greatest Two Heavyweights Ever
3) Gets Difficult..... Marciano, Langford, Tunney one of those guys takes the third spot
4) Klitschko
Foreman would smash all of them except Ali. Foreman is an absolute wrecking machine, young and old.
Ali vs Joe Louis would be an easy night. Ali wins.
No not easy
Ali will destroy Joe
this is awesome
This is gold
Ali is the greatest..period!
Ali knocks him out simple.
The thing that i admire the most about ali after watching some of his fights and mainly his big ones is that this dude could take a punch,a bomb he absolutly refused to accept defeat,that s very strong mindset almost childish because of his refusel to not get what he wants,his rivalry with smoking joe,not many people realise but at the end of the fight with a few rounds to go before the punch that sent him to the floor there is another punch(in the clinch)where joe s punch snaps alis upward and the crowd gasps,that punch was :(im sad to say it he s downfall,it messed him up started something im not talking about his condition because im no trauma expert but that punch was so violent that snap so sharp that it must have done something to ali,but even after hes diagnostic even after stepping in the ring with pd he could still take a punch freaking amazing :(.....
As for joe he steped into the ring with forman and was never the same...
They're bickering is hilarious I need to watch this whole film
Thing is Joe had good footwork, you don't really see it much because the opponents he fought didn't, so he didn't use it. Watch the start of the max Baer louis fight and keep your eyes on Joe's feet. It wouldn't of been a asset to him in that era
Great video! As good as Joe was, Ali faced a lot tougher opposition than Joe Louis. Ironic that he was 'tagged' by some of the best punchers ever - Frazier, Foreman, Shavers - and still came through. My money on Ali
Ali and cus are shadow boxing in heaven right now lol..RIP TO LEGENDS
El mejor boxeqdor del mundo con el mejor entrenador del mundo ,maravilloso
I think they told cus to argue for louis for the television, its fairly obvious ali would destroy him.
Cus: "You've never been hit that way...." Lets see what happens when it catch up to you" "One day they'll tag you like that if you ever get back in the ring, and when they do tag you like that, we'll see how your legs behave"
Joe Frazier's left hook to Ali dropping him in their first fight confirmed Cuss' theory.
He got up like it was nothing...
In the 12th He was hurt when His legs buckled He clowned...like it was nothing
I had the vinyl album "The Thrill Of Sports" where one of the commentators said that the hardest punch they had ever seen thrown knocked 2 of the opponents teeth through their mouthpiece and through their lips and he fell flat on his face. That punch was thrown by Joe Louis. George Forman, Joe Frasier, Mike Tyson, none of them ever threw a punch that hard. If Cassius Clay/ Muhammad Ali ever got hit with a punch like that the results would of been the same, he would of fallen flat on his face
I'd listen those two talk boxing all day
ali is to fast
The Brown Bomber by UD and a severe beating to Ali. If a slow Henry Cooper can knock down Ali/Clay, the Brown Bomber would have killed him.
LOL Cooper knocked him down when he was still developing as a fighter, you see in the rematch Cooper couldn't land a glove on him... In those 2-3 years Ali totally became a different monster, the EVOLUTION at its best! The brown bomber would get toyed around and sent on a bench
This is a clip from the movie called AKA Cassius Clay. It’s an awesome video . You all should check it out
wow this is so interesting and different ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,and Alis breakdown of Louis at the end is great,,,,imagine insetad of Louis they were both discussing Tyson