Runs and cuts just fine. That flat head will run for many years if the owner just takes care of it. They are better than the new engines they are making today. I think that is a fair price Dave!
That engine can make that pull wheelies. Those engines are far superior to many of the newer Intek engines. I did a swap on a ride on with one of those engines where the machine had an Intel and the thing had so much torque the front wheels would pop right off the ground when you let the clutch out too fast. 12 HP is more than enough. I had a 1979 5hp rear engine rider that would mow 6 foot tall grass with no issues
I agree that most are over powered. Our first one was a 14 HP and it did just fine. I always wondered why they are all 20-24 HP now. Bigger is better I guess. Thanks Dave. Stevo
Hi stevo. I believe it was customer surveys and they for whatever reason wanted more HP. So the manufacturer builds them with bigger engines because they can charge more money 💰. Thanks for tuning in Stevo
Looks good and mows good. I'm into those old snapper comet mowers. My back and legs hurts working on small engines so i have to be careful. Thanks for your videos
How's she goin'? Nice Dave!! You have this Troy -Bilt looking pretty nice. I like the old engine with the inspection port!! LOL Good luck with this one and take care!!!
Hi there Mike. It did look pretty nice didn't it. It was a hard sell though, I thought it would sell fast but it took quite awhile, you take care my friend
Well, I'm sure some high priced engineers figure out how much horse power is sufficient. That being said, I replaced a 14 hp Briggs flat head on a Craftsman LT1000 with an 8 hp Briggs flathead and it mowed fine even with 260 pound me aboard!!
It seems to work good. Back in the day I had plenty of cheap tractors , Craftsman, MTD etc with 11 and 12 hp Briggs . The tractors were gear drive maybe 38” or 42” mower decks……. Never had an issue….
Right I remember a lot of mowers having 11, 12, 12.5 HP engines back in the day, they all seemed to work fine. I've seen some craftsmans with a 24hp Vtwin and a 42 inch deck, it's like come on , that's just stupid. Thanks for watching and commenting
@@davessmallenginerevival2847 I was working on 15.5 hp bs today and a 14 hp bs in shop with deck rebuild It’s all I do is rebuild the older ones back to 1995
It's in good shape buddy. Overseas stuff now my friend. I think a mower that size should have a 100hp twin out of a motorbike or Skidoo. But that's just me! I guess I go to too many tractor-pulls. Take care
Rant on! The 1954 Moto Mower I have has a 2 hp Briggs 6S on it and it is a self propelled reel mower. Dad had 3 choices in 1970 Craftsman push mowers, 3.0, 3.5, and 4 HP Tecumseh. He chose the 4 because we had a steep ditch along the road. We had that mower for years. No need for alleged 7.25 torque whatever BS. My weekly mower is a Snapper Hi Vac with 4HP 187 cc I/C Briggs on it. It does just fine. No wonder everyone got sued for lying about HP. Give me a Quantum, and I will beat your fancy OHV Briggs, or GCV160, Koehler; Chonda, PowerMore or whatever Chineseium crap the are pushing this year.
Decades ago we has a 48 inch cut wheel horse with hydrostat drive,, it had a 10 hp kohler and it had plenty of power.. It outcut my current john deere with a 17 hp Kawasaki. yes i think manufacturers are in a hp war because these younger consumers are just concerned with hp numbers
The only thing I don’t like about the old ones is the hood not setting off Yet I have fixed several with parts to use set off hoods Will make 10/20 sets this winter for changing outfits
Hi Bruce. Right, they are overpowered, I remember MTDs with gear drive , 42 inch deck and 12 or 12.5 HP engines and they worked fine. Good hearing from you sir
i have a john deere lx176 (14 hp , hydro trans) that i sometimes use a 48 inch deck from my lx188 under . it works fine , even in higher grass . early 36 inch riders had 8 hp (though manual trans) , so 13 hp should be fine for your 42 inch deck . i have 2 old 42 inch murray riders (again , non hydros) that came w/14 hp engines , and they are plenty powerful . yours having a flathead is a real plus .
Hi there John. Luckily I bought it knowing it was blown but oddly enough I traded yesterday sight unseen which I never do but I did it anyway and the engine in the unit was blown, no hole in the side so maybe he didn't know but I think I was lied to 😡 I was in the garage on the 4th so I was in my happy place. Hope yours was good also my friend
From looks of it that old motor you took out looks like a little 13 horse to begin with. Don't look like no 20 horse. As long as that 13 ain't bogging under load I would just leave it. It don't matter
"Chicanic" just put out a video warning about all of the single cylinder Briggs. She says there are longevity (crankshaft) issues with them, Best of luck with who ever gets it. Might last a century, might last a week ?? Who ;nows. They don't build ANYTHING to last any more.... period. Thanks for a good video just tyhe same !
Everybody says they want Made in the U.S.A. with pride & quality, but those manufacturers go out of business because 95% of Americans chose made in china because it’s “cheaper”
Looks like my 2020 model mine is all red bronco 19,5 guy used it 3 times then the guy got sick and passed away i bought it from his son for 550 did i pay to much
Runs and cuts just fine. That flat head will run for many years if the owner just takes care of it. They are better than the new engines they are making today. I think that is a fair price Dave!
Thanks Bob. Right, these are way better engines, as long as the owner checks and changes the oil regularly. People get lazy with that
That engine can make that pull wheelies. Those engines are far superior to many of the newer Intek engines. I did a swap on a ride on with one of those engines where the machine had an Intel and the thing had so much torque the front wheels would pop right off the ground when you let the clutch out too fast. 12 HP is more than enough. I had a 1979 5hp rear engine rider that would mow 6 foot tall grass with no issues
Right, I love these old flatheads, far superior than a intek
Glad you got that classic engine for this troy bulit mower
Hi Robert, right, I love these 13 HP flatheads
@@davessmallenginerevival2847 I do to.they.are great engine's and are getting hard to find in great shape 😭😭
The Briggs should work well. I think rooted in America does not mean anything and just suggests it is made overseas
I agree Joseph, also suggests when Troy Built was an American company at ONE time. Good to hear from you my friend
I agree that most are over powered. Our first one was a 14 HP and it did just fine. I always wondered why they are all 20-24 HP now. Bigger is better I guess. Thanks Dave. Stevo
Hi stevo. I believe it was customer surveys and they for whatever reason wanted more HP. So the manufacturer builds them with bigger engines because they can charge more money 💰. Thanks for tuning in Stevo
@@davessmallenginerevival2847 That makes sense. Thanks
Looks good and mows good. I'm into those old snapper comet mowers. My back and legs hurts working on small engines so i have to be careful. Thanks for your videos
Hey bud, yes I remember you like snappers
@@davessmallenginerevival2847 cool thanks
How's she goin'? Nice Dave!! You have this Troy -Bilt looking pretty nice. I like the old engine with the inspection port!! LOL Good luck with this one and take care!!!
Hi there Mike. It did look pretty nice didn't it. It was a hard sell though, I thought it would sell fast but it took quite awhile, you take care my friend
Well, I'm sure some high priced engineers figure out how much horse power is sufficient. That being said, I replaced a 14 hp Briggs flat head on a Craftsman LT1000 with an 8 hp Briggs flathead and it mowed fine even with 260 pound me aboard!!
I think it's more of a customer survey thing and these people say they want more HP, not sure what for, maybe they let their grass grow to long
Nice to see you Dave👍👍👍👍
Thanks Alan
It seems to work good. Back in the day I had plenty of cheap tractors , Craftsman, MTD etc with 11 and 12 hp Briggs . The tractors were gear drive maybe 38” or 42” mower decks……. Never had an issue….
Right I remember a lot of mowers having 11, 12, 12.5 HP engines back in the day, they all seemed to work fine. I've seen some craftsmans with a 24hp Vtwin and a 42 inch deck, it's like come on , that's just stupid. Thanks for watching and commenting
I agree and that’s the one s I’m fixing up for the last 3 years
Got about 65 of them waiting for me to get them back in shape 😊😊😊
@@davessmallenginerevival2847
I was working on 15.5 hp bs today and a 14 hp bs in shop with deck rebuild
It’s all I do is rebuild the older ones back to 1995
It's in good shape buddy. Overseas stuff now my friend. I think a mower that size should have a 100hp twin out of a motorbike or Skidoo. But that's just me! I guess I go to too many tractor-pulls. Take care
Hi John. Right on ,100hp twin I'm all in but I don't think the hydro will last eh 😆
Rant on! The 1954 Moto Mower I have has a 2 hp Briggs 6S on it and it is a self propelled reel mower. Dad had 3 choices in 1970 Craftsman push mowers, 3.0, 3.5, and 4 HP Tecumseh. He chose the 4 because we had a steep ditch along the road. We had that mower for years. No need for alleged 7.25 torque whatever BS. My weekly mower is a Snapper Hi Vac with 4HP 187 cc I/C Briggs on it. It does just fine. No wonder everyone got sued for lying about HP. Give me a Quantum, and I will beat your fancy OHV Briggs, or GCV160, Koehler; Chonda, PowerMore or whatever Chineseium crap the are pushing this year.
RIGHT ON!!!
Decades ago we has a 48 inch cut wheel horse with hydrostat drive,, it had a 10 hp kohler and it had plenty of power.. It outcut my current john deere with a 17 hp Kawasaki. yes i think manufacturers are in a hp war because these younger consumers are just concerned with hp numbers
You are right, people think more HP is better so the manufacturer puts bigger engines in, that way they can charge more
The only thing I don’t like about the old ones is the hood not setting off
Yet I have fixed several with parts to use set off hoods
Will make 10/20 sets this winter for changing outfits
“Not setting off”??
Flat Head tried and true never had one that failed✔️💯👍🏽
Yes sir, I love those flatheads
I still use an Allis Chalmers 310 with a 10hp k241... it shredds brush and cuts grass just fine
I love those old Allis mowers
Rooted in America??? That is a weird one. I think most mowers are overpowered these days. A 42 inch deck will be a great acreage mower. It mows great.
Hi Bruce. Right, they are overpowered, I remember MTDs with gear drive , 42 inch deck and 12 or 12.5 HP engines and they worked fine. Good hearing from you sir
i have a john deere lx176 (14 hp , hydro trans) that i sometimes use a 48 inch deck from my lx188 under . it works fine , even in higher grass . early 36 inch riders had 8 hp (though manual trans) , so 13 hp should be fine for your 42 inch deck . i have 2 old 42 inch murray riders (again , non hydros) that came w/14 hp engines , and they are plenty powerful . yours having a flathead is a real plus .
Thanks Bill. Right, back in the day they used smaller HP engines and they worked fine, 20HP is just overkill
@@davessmallenginerevival2847 i agree , sales gimmick probably .
You replaced the engine with a much better one.
My luck is that people would give me an engine with an inspection port not a runner. Lol. Hope you had a good 4th.
Hi there John. Luckily I bought it knowing it was blown but oddly enough I traded yesterday sight unseen which I never do but I did it anyway and the engine in the unit was blown, no hole in the side so maybe he didn't know but I think I was lied to 😡 I was in the garage on the 4th so I was in my happy place. Hope yours was good also my friend
@@davessmallenginerevival2847 I hate dishonest people.
Belts will slip anyway.
From looks of it that old motor you took out looks like a little 13 horse to begin with. Don't look like no 20 horse. As long as that 13 ain't bogging under load I would just leave it. It don't matter
CCs say it was about a 20HP. That's just ridiculous in this little mower. I think it worked just fine with the 13HP. Thanks for tuning in my friend
"Chicanic" just put out a video warning about all of the single cylinder Briggs. She says there are longevity (crankshaft) issues with them, Best of luck with who ever gets it. Might last a century, might last a week ?? Who ;nows. They don't build ANYTHING to last any more.... period. Thanks for a good video just tyhe same !
I highly doubt she was talking about the old flathead engines. All Briggs are not the same
Everybody says they want Made in the U.S.A. with pride & quality, but those manufacturers go out of business because 95% of Americans chose made in china because it’s “cheaper”
I know that's the problem
Looks like my 2020 model mine is all red bronco 19,5 guy used it 3 times then the guy got sick and passed away i bought it from his son for 550 did i pay to much
@@user-qi7yt7og7q no, good deal
15 hp is plenty I think 🤔
Really stupid to let grass get to high
Right, people do it all the time though