@@craigjohnson8217 So if I understand correctly that engine will produce an additional 150 hp when nitrous is applied, making a total of around 500 hp?
well, since it is the expanding nitrogen that does most of the work. I.E. the burning fuel and oxigen heats the nitrogen and causes it to expand. since there are formulas to figgure out how much air you can force in with a blower, it would be close to the same, cause thats all you are realy doing with a shot of nos more oxigen and more nitrogen, same as a blower but without the moving parts.
yes, watched the whole thing it was interesting.... 1:18 "we have hopped it up a little bit it's got..." I liked the video, I just thought it was funny that he said it was bone stock, and then detailed a few things they upgraded on it.
***** it is a stock bottom end...as stated in the video...and the bottom end parts are what nitrous breaks. That's the point of this video, in case you didn't actually watch it.
This is my favorite EM episode, I wish they would do the same test with nothing more than the stock rings gapped to .030”. With rings gapped properly, 118 gas, and the progressive controller, I bet it would safely handle a 400 shot.
Yea.. it's all brand new... but put a few passes on it with that kinda spray, and you will see what the rods look like hanging out the side of it.. the rod bolts won't take the stress very long and they will stretch and when that happens its Katie bar the door cause the rods are leaving home... lol
stock internals do not represent horsepower, just durability, the impressive numbers were because of the upgraded cam, roller rockers, vortec heads, bigger intake and an 850 double pump carb, put forged internals in the short block and it would make the same numbers. but still was impressed with 358hp and that torque curve.
I'm a bit of a geek and have looked up tests of Amsoil against other oils, I would say that using Amsoil contributed to that engines ability to hold together as long as it did and make the power it was making. Unfortunately it is hideously expensive here in the UK, Castrol Edge is probably the best I've used, it burned less and the engine ran better while feeling more responsive and powerful. Edge costs over twice as much as a normal fully synthetic oil but is around half the price of Amsoil.
The guy that really gets to laugh is the one at the parts counter..."You're gonna need one of these, one of these, one more of these, and a whole bunch of those!!!" Parts Guys love people playing with nitrous!! ;^)
305s aren't a bad engine at all. With a 3k budget a 305 is peppy .. not fast in a 3500lb street car but just a fun little efficient engine that can be had for cheap. Those heads are only like 1200 bucks.. that cam is only 279 bucks from jegs. 350 dollar intake and 500 dollar carb. That nitrous kit is the starter kit for any real racer and can be had for around 750 bucks. For under 5k you can have a reliable 450hp 305. People make fun of them but look at the abuse the Ford 302 takes..... Short stroke, big bore, same as 305. Not bad for any engine you can obtain for 350 bucks at any junkyard in the nation.
You said "chingadera" and as a mexican and As a Spanish speaker I can attest and I feel obliged to say that you used the word to its fullest. I'm still laughing 🤣🤣🤣
I'm not into American engines, but you can feel the love for anything mechanical from these guys so I like it ^^ - emotional video, really ;) Also, it's very informational and comprehensive, subscribed !
@@midsouth2strokes185 nah... you had already reached a depth impossible to beat you're on your own, there, buddy 🤣🤣🤣 also, from your grammar skills, I can safely assume you're a fine specimen of Southern inbreeding lmao
How many pulls at 600 h.p. would she have made! Now we will never know. Guess I'll have to build one now......stupid show makes me spend money, lol. Love it!
Guess it really depends on if we're talking 1/4 or 1/8 mile? 3 to 3 1/2 in the 1/8th and prolly 1 1/2 to 2 full passes in a 1/4 if I was a gambler!! Personally, I would've stuck with the (quite impressive might I add) 150 shot at 550hp total and made 10-20 good passes and cashed in on the little 305 while gambling!! 💵😂
chingadera A wonderfully suggestive word for "thing". Safe to use at work or in the bedroom. "Are you done playing with that chingadera?" "I can't seem to get that chingadera to work!"
I once had a piston disintegrate, and the rod goes up and down in the cylinder until it pokes thru the side of the engine. I wanted to see something like that.
Thanks. I know nothing about cars and you explained this in a very simple way for someone like me to understand. Now feel confident putting a NOS into my VW Beetle. Bout to shame some muscle cars!
Richard Arcuri On race gas and a 250shot on a stock 355 it ran for 3yrs and only thing went wrong is my head gasket. I think it would've been good if I had head studs instead of head bolts.
lol it was informative how other than showing us that you can run nitrous on an engine upgraded for it since he was nice enough to list all the upgrades on it. Still waiting to see that "bone stock" engine he was referring to.
aj johns+, he didnt claim it was bone stock and no this engine is not upgraded for nitrous use. its a mild street engine that RUNS ON PUMP GAS and uses pretty much all stock parts besides the cam/lifters. Obviously you know nothing about nitrous which is ok we all gotta learn but you didnt even care to watch the video and learn anything about it either. he talks about the benefits of forged internals in the vid so whats up with that. Properly upgrading an engine for nitrous would have included forged pistons, connecting rods, and crankshaft. along with a wider than stock piston ring gap. please think before you speak. thanks.
Iv done this with a 350 it did really well with a 200 shot for about a year and probably ran well over a 100 bottles threw it. When I pulled it out it was still running. 😎 Great Job guys👍
@@DannySystem that's a rough idea also so roughly A Hundred Bottles if he did the math it was probably more like 95 92 96 somewhere in that area still I ran a shitload of nitrous through it.
A lot to comment on here, but pulling the engine apart and adding turbo pistons, main and head studs with HP valve springs and better head gaskets would give this little hot rod some life on the street with around 600 hp. Great video, looks like fun for sure
I've seen things get blown on your show, I've seen Hookers get beat up badly, next think we know you guys will be PowerStroking in front of all of us. You guys need to get it together. 😜
This is a "bolt on" which is something added to the engine. The engine is still in its "stock" form as they didn't replace any of the internals. You can consider NOS as an air mixture
The funniest, and ironic thing about this whole video was him saying "Dont call it NOS/NOZ, cause that's a rookie movie" and 30 seconds later a commercial for NOS comes on and thats exactly what the guy in the commerical called it. 🤣🤣🤣
It's not worth it.a 350 would be better.more power.tourqe.more pulling power.305 will drink as much gas when pulling a load, often bogs down,more rpms, decrease gas mileage.the 350 with higher rpms, power will pull that load,less bogging.305 is only good for fuel economy
I really don't understand the hate given towards 305 SBC's, they run smooth, can produce a decent amount of power even if it's a little low, but the real talents are how much fuel economy and mileage 305 cast iron small blocks are blessed with. 263,000 miles on my '92 Camaro's bone stock 305, runs like it's brand new, just warm her up a little and she's ready to rip!
..thats all a joke right? decent power, fuel economy, runs like new after warming up...That thing is only getting good fuel economy if you are comparing it to a say a 74 deville...
Those and the 307 have always been boat anchors, I'm impressed that it made that much power on it's own, as well as took the lower levels of nitrous........as well as how much money and what parts they dumped into it before it blew!
well.....it's because they're turds. They weren't even up to the task when they were new, as anybody with a 5.0 Ford of the same era would have demonstrated to you at every available opportunity.
You didn't even need a 5.0 Mustang, I could take them down with a 4dr Hatch Lebaron with their early 2.2l Turbo 4 that only good for just shy of 150hp.
That was not part of what they wanted to test. Stock shortblock with no modifications. Most people won't be able to properly open the rings. Most will hurt things more as they don't know hot to file rings.
I'm just sitting here, in Europe and the guy says "just a small Chevy engine, 3.5". WUUUUUUUUUUUUUTTTTTTTTTTTTT, that's huge xD We drive some fucking 1.0 EcoThreePistonEngines >.>
billybobjoe198 That's kind of true, many people in Europe are stupid and they think that socialism/communism is the best system in the world, and the European Union began... with it's shitty rules, and tells you what your country must do. Sad.
305ci V8 they came in many GM cars Camaro, Trans am ..These cars also had 262 V6. 350ci V8 The 89' Trans am Had a 3.8L V6 Turbo which was 12 secs 1/4 mile Which was very fast for a stock factory car
225k miles Honda V6 J-Series J30A5 Engine, ran 100k miles on 100 shot, 30+ 10lb bottle and never an issue! Tune it Right, set it up right and you'll never have issues. Only issue, finding a place to fill the bottle
Bullet proof? Never heard that about them before. I have 2, one on 300kkm that will blow by the rings at full throttle, the other has 190-odd on it that's blown a headgasket but will cut 5 laps on track drifting before it overheats and starts to lose oil pressure. Both stock HP.
Or really test the engineering on a soch 5ME, the one in my little Celica Supra just takes upgrades like a champ. I've gotten 250hp with all factory internals and oe ecu
Nitrous can actually be plug and play. Modern ECUs should be able to account for a 25-50 wet shot without a tune. Maybe even a 75 or 100 shot. It’s wise to keep an eye on your AFR and do some logging regardless though.
You should do a video of how much horsepower ur car losses over time, say like when u buy a new car it has 700hp and 9 years later how much horsepower do u have still, what can 9 or so years do to ur hp rating
Well one huge figured difference between a motor loosing horsepower and a car losing horsepower is that the motor's energy is being pushed through a transmission, and axles, and wheels. The other parts that stop rolling so nicely tend to fight the motor and cause it to break down faster. Bearings start losing polish, cams start getting a little flat, wires corrode, rings thin... Eventually the parts that solidly transfered energy from the piston head to the rear wheels get so much slop that the power actually ends up working at breaking parts down till they just don't work no more. My 92 explorer used to get 17mpg, now it's down to 12 and the radiator leaks. But the ac works great!
I don't think you caught the drift of what I was saying, the comment was more of an answer as to why vehicles lose horsepower over time. As for your comment, a compression test does nothing but show compression, doesn't tell you if a valve is stuck open or of a gasket blown or a piston melted through. No way could it give you an idea of the nature of several components in a system as far as wear goes. I also fail to see any linkage between a cam being flat and compression. Unless of course your talking about an exhaust valve not lifting, and giving too much compression. But that would be cam failure, and even then that could be valve failure, or blockage, so yeah... Compression is just compression..
I am pretty sure a compression test can tell you if a valve is open, blown gasket, or a melted piston because if you had any of these you would not have compression.. right? And if your intake valves aren't opening enough or at all to let air in because you have a wiped lobe you will have 0 compression. Compression tests are one of the most helpful of diagnostics you can do .
Revisit this and add upgraded pistons/rings only and go full send on a 2 shot...Ramp it up 30%~75% over 3 seconds and bet you hit 800. If it survives, go full 50%~100% and tickle 900 and make a 4 piece crank 😂
I only care about things that belong to me, if someone destroys an item worth thousands it don't matter. However if anything of mine, even if it's only worth a penny gets damaged I'll fucking kill whoever is responsible.
Mike Morrison I know some punk ass kids on here who do. Completely lost it when one fool in the comments below another video made the claim that a Grand for a PC is cheap.
Lean means too much oxygen not enough fuel, when you run low on NOS you run low on oxygen, but are still supplying the same amount of fuel. Too much fuel means you are running rich.
@@ConcussedGaming Yeah but the rings were the main failing point here, would of been good to see where it ended up with the ring gap opened up. My guess since they mentioned the head gasket blew out as well is that it would of failed at that point anyway due to pushed head gasket but the piston would of survived that far. The rods were hanging in to that point though!
@@AB-80X Not really, when we say file the rings out it's still only talking in thousandths of an inch, so the gap isn't that great, the metal only expands a relatively small amount so it would probably only need a few thousandths bigger gap. That would still increase blow by, but by an insignificant amount, much better than smashed pistons :)
Gotta love how he bowdlerizes in English by using a Mexican Spanish curse word that every Latino instantly recognizes. Multi cultural knowledge. Now say int in Brazilian Portuguese.....Russian.......German......Arabic
This particular 305 was quite impressive (for what it is) but you'd be insane to spend a single dime really trying to build one. Hence the reason they grenaded this one instead of a 350!
I had this exact setup in my 70 Chevelle,cast pistons and all and ran countless bottles of nitrous through that motor shifting at 6700 perfect!! Undefeated including aluminum head 427s and 454 ls6s I destroyed them!! If you run a wet kit set the timing right and don't lose fuel pressure you'll be fine 👍👍👍
very predictable result. still amazed that 305 can take that much because I was saying to myself that it couldn't take no more than 75 shot. Thank you so much for uploading
Quite impressive...of course, I'm shocked that thing was making 350ci type numbers with the same cam and heads! Better than some actually...I would've been impressed with those n/a #'s from an actual 350 setup the exact same!!
I want a little 305 like that! I was impressed by the power it made even without nitrous. But I think the 150 shot was a great match for it. Makes me want to build it one! I have a friend with an old S10 I could throw it in.
ABOlsen69X good point! Didn’t think of that. Cancel out any variables. Just figured the bottom end would be the first to go no matter. But with this experiment don’t wanna take the risk in ruining the results.
ya there is no way they could actually test the strength of the rotating assembly on stock heads they are just too restrictive. even with vortec heads the piston didnt fail. the ring gap expanded enough to close up the gap causing it to break. same thing woulda happened to a more expensive forged piston. either that or the ring woulda broke but somethings gotta give.
I always wondered what the deal was with the rings not being a full circle and the blow-by through the gap. I had no idea that the worse problem was the gap closing - and that you might need to widen it. Very interesting, great video.
Ricers are just about gone now. It was a quick rise and fall of them, I knew that back when that BS started, no way was this going to "trend" for long.
This "trend" is here to stay, I'm afraid because rice appeals to the stupid and there has always been plenty of those around. I still see ricers on the streets. Maybe not as many of them as in the early 2000s but they are around.
I just think that movie is funny. Because they are seen to be the best of the best street racers. Yet their cars are only running 10 second 1/4s...... And his Rx7 is like the unbeatable car when 10 second rx7s are sooooooo common.
Here In Minnesota I run a wissota pure stock and all we are aloud to run is a Chevy 305 and I can say there not that bad guys build them and make 300+ all the time lol
He said "bone stock short block" A short block is an engine sub-assembly comprising the portion of the cylinder block below the head gasket but above the oil pan.
Actually, he said "bone stock SMALL block." The rotating components are stock in the engine which is what would typically fail on an over-nitroused engine.
No, He clearly said "Bone stock SHORT BLOCK"(and its also in the description section) which is what is effected in a nitrous application as there are rarely failures of the valve train contributed to the application of nitrous.
wow in 5 min I learned more than from all car forums together thank you guys have a question my friend had exactly the same piston failure on hellcat, but he was running 2.75 upper pulley no Nitro, is this kind of failure only attributed to nitros or not? thank you very much
@@theblackdude If its all bolt on parts and you did not change any engine internals such as pistons, rods, crank then generally at the race track people will call it a stock engine.
@@connoisseuroftigolbitts his/her point is, bone stock means you didnt upgrade ANYTHING, literally bone stock meaning it has had no modifications what so ever, yet here we are
If my comments bothers you so much, then you do it. As to the fact of the time schedule, they are using an impact on head bolts. That speeds the time up, however it's not recommend.
Imagine waking up to see that crate in the garage with a safe 150 shot ready to throw into whatever you got. I’d cry if joy, people always dog the 305 but it’s a beast no doubt. Let people keep thinking that soo we can get them cheap cause the next guy thinks the stock 5.7 is gonna make soooo much more power lol
All the losses are "taken care of" before any power adder, adding the nitrous doesn't create any more - so a 100 shot adds 100 at the wheels the same as at the crank.
Thats impressive they took a lethargic 305 put vortec heads, cam, good intake and carb, and it laid down over 355hp and 325tq! That surprised me. Then it took a 150 shot and produced over 550hp!! like it was nothing! What's funny is if anyone had that set-up on the streets, it would last a long time, as long as you had the safety gear for the nitrous that they had! Lol you'd be cleaning house with a 305 on juice😂😂😂 oh how you'd piss a lot of people off! Can't believe it made over 600hp and took it😃 from how they went from 50% on both to 100% on both, that beast was probably making over 800 before it went!!!!! Impressive, if they filed the rings for nitrous who knows how much power it would have made...
Try nearly 300ft/lb. On a machine that weighs 260kg, that's fast, whether you stubbornly fail to admit it or not!! There's a reason lightweight kit cars can often be found running bike engines......they're just engineered better. Big V8's are less fussy, high-revving fours provide much more hp per litre. Dont't get me wrong, I love V8's too, Can't I love both??
I wonder if C&A gapless rings would've made a difference? that said, this is the best video I have seen for nitrous use. You can say NOS if your talking about a NOS kit, NOS is a nitrous kit
That was an awesome video. Now we know what we can do with a stock 305cid. MotorTrend you should rebuild this engine to the highest performance you can go for the street and show us what kind of hp we can get from this little rat.
the only changes were the heads,cam, intake and carb. the short block is stock. these are typical changes. i would even say the heads are stock since they are vortec castings.
It is still basically stock my good man...completely stock short block with stock Chevrolet heads decent cam and intake isn't very much. The point of the video is how much a stock bottom end can take, period. Point well proven!
@@FrankBullitt390that's am ignorant comment. noone building a "budget" engine is gonna leave the ring gap tight amd grenade an engine they could barely afford to build. same with rebuilding the engine and turbocharging it. Doesn't take alot of effort to gap the rings, and certainly beats rebuilding the engine immediately because it blew up
@@FrankBullitt390 100 shot only, and you just watched a 305 survive more until it failed from improper ring gap. I'm not saying you should, but it most certainly works
..now me and the mad scientist have to rip apart the block to replace the piston rings you fried
you got that from the fast and furious
+bryan j Jones no shit there buddy
+bryan j Jones your some special kind of stupid
+Victor Barajas (onedesire1392) really
+bryan j Jones oh shit i didnt realize who i commented it was meant for jessie davis lol sorry man
That lil 305 was making some decent power. Im sure that engine with the 150 shot would have made a decent weekend warrior setup.
No doubt...500 hp 305 could really hurt some feelings! lol
Landon I agree. 350+hp NA is stout for a 305 and over 500 on a 150 shot it gets my vote.
@@craigjohnson8217 What does the 150 in "150 shot" mean?
@@pieterveenders9793 150 hp nitrous
@@craigjohnson8217 So if I understand correctly that engine will produce an additional 150 hp when nitrous is applied, making a total of around 500 hp?
So next episode lets see the 305 prepped for nitrous!!! Lets see what you can get out of it.
I hope so too
I agree ! Build it and see what it will take !
Maybe do a budget style build for the 305
I agree. my thoughts exactly.
Yeah that would be nice to see in the next episode but the next episode is already filmed and out... on FUCKING motortrend on demand...
"Nirous does not blow up engines. PEOPLE blow up engines."
I officially love this channel.
Motor trend does have some of the best car enthusiast shows out there
Agreed, the same people who say Nitrous will blow up your engine are the same that say food makes people fat and knives and guns kill people.
I was always disappointed that they didn't properly gap the rings to see how far they could really go with cast internals
With rings gapped properly, 118 gas, and the progressive controller I bet it would safely handle a 350 shot, maybe 400.
Yea but that was the point
well, since it is the expanding nitrogen that does most of the work. I.E. the burning fuel and oxigen heats the nitrogen and causes it to expand. since there are formulas to figgure out how much air you can force in with a blower, it would be close to the same, cause thats all you are realy doing with a shot of nos more oxigen and more nitrogen, same as a blower but without the moving parts.
Keep in mind, stock bottom ends don't have piston rings with extra gap for nitrous.
@@lenabeeman9041 right but If you are gonna build a cheap nitrous motor, might as well do it right
Here we have a bone stock engine........ but.. we upgraded, this, this, this, this, this, and that...
they specifically said stock short block.
Did you even watch the video?
yes, watched the whole thing it was interesting.... 1:18 "we have hopped it up a little bit it's got..." I liked the video, I just thought it was funny that he said it was bone stock, and then detailed a few things they upgraded on it.
+jesondag those upgrades effect the horsepower and torque figures, but they don't, in any way, effect how durable it will be in nitrous.
***** it is a stock bottom end...as stated in the video...and the bottom end parts are what nitrous breaks. That's the point of this video, in case you didn't actually watch it.
This is my favorite EM episode, I wish they would do the same test with nothing more than the stock rings gapped to .030”. With rings gapped properly, 118 gas, and the progressive controller, I bet it would safely handle a 400 shot.
I was thinking the same thing
Yea.. it's all brand new... but put a few passes on it with that kinda spray, and you will see what the rods look like hanging out the side of it.. the rod bolts won't take the stress very long and they will stretch and when that happens its Katie bar the door cause the rods are leaving home... lol
3:27 might be the most important part of this lesson for all of the viewers that are new to motor sports
So stock BLOCK, not stock engine.
stock shortblock*
Well except for the cam... so almost stock.
exactly what i was thinking lmao just clickbait
He said short block, not engine. Pay attention and ignorance will be less of a problem.
anonymous 1:16
Now me and the mad scientist gotta pull apart the block, and replace the piston rings you fried!
Love that movie
dude I almost had u ....no u never had me u never had your car
i live my life a 1/4 mile at a time.
pop the hood. pop the hood? pop the hood!
2ZJ ENGINE THATS BEEN IN A FIRE? ERMAGERD!
Pretty impressive numbers on that stock 305...
Agreed. That was the most impressive part of the video. 358HP!! Table top flat torque curve... all with a stock short block.
Yea i was shocked when he said the numbers lol.
stock internals do not represent horsepower, just durability, the impressive numbers were because of the upgraded cam, roller rockers, vortec heads, bigger intake and an 850 double pump carb, put forged internals in the short block and it would make the same numbers. but still was impressed with 358hp and that torque curve.
jokertokerfourtwozer agree completely
jokertokerfourtwozer you do realize you just restated what he said in the video
I'm a bit of a geek and have looked up tests of Amsoil against other oils, I would say that using Amsoil contributed to that engines ability to hold together as long as it did and make the power it was making.
Unfortunately it is hideously expensive here in the UK, Castrol Edge is probably the best I've used, it burned less and the engine ran better while feeling more responsive and powerful. Edge costs over twice as much as a normal fully synthetic oil but is around half the price of Amsoil.
DANGER to manifold ... (floor panel drops)
Damn cast aluminum floor panels.
lol
shut up !!!! stage 2
I had you bro
+Ultra Sound you never had me. you never had your car
Too much Nitrous and the engine will begin to laugh.
😆
You're a diver haaaaaa
The guy that really gets to laugh is the one at the parts counter..."You're gonna need one of these, one of these, one more of these, and a whole bunch of those!!!" Parts Guys love people playing with nitrous!! ;^)
I wish i could have a “junk engine” like that
305s aren't a bad engine at all. With a 3k budget a 305 is peppy .. not fast in a 3500lb street car but just a fun little efficient engine that can be had for cheap. Those heads are only like 1200 bucks.. that cam is only 279 bucks from jegs. 350 dollar intake and 500 dollar carb. That nitrous kit is the starter kit for any real racer and can be had for around 750 bucks. For under 5k you can have a reliable 450hp 305. People make fun of them but look at the abuse the Ford 302 takes..... Short stroke, big bore, same as 305. Not bad for any engine you can obtain for 350 bucks at any junkyard in the nation.
@Dave Micolichek never did I say the bores were the same.. I stated both engines work off the same principal with bore vs stroke... Junior...
Ya 305 engines are real impressive lmao🙄🙄
@Dave Micolichek umm yeah okay?? Not hard to achieve an engine like THAT?? Obviously its not hard, the O.P is talking $$ wise...
What i was thinking lol
MT: "How Much Nitrous Can a Stock Engine Take?"
Me: "I don't know, BUT I KNOW HOW MUCH I'M GONNA USE!"
This show needs to come back to TH-cam! !
Dude, it 4.99 a month and u get all the shows
i dont know about a short block, but my h22a took over a 100 dry shot every friday night for over a year.
Dry lol doesn't count
@@boostjunkie2320 its still a shot fam, technically, it does...
Just like my wife
How does dry not count ? That’s harder than a wet hit
You said "chingadera" and as a mexican and As a Spanish speaker I can attest and I feel obliged to say that you used the word to its fullest. I'm still laughing 🤣🤣🤣
monono monono bro I heard that and had to rewind to hear it again 😂😂
after i heard that i had a sudden urge to go to Taco Bell
@@richeyvalentine i became a taco reading this
monono monono as soon is I heard it I went straight to the comments
monono monono he’s said it for years on roadkill lol
I'm not into American engines, but you can feel the love for anything mechanical from these guys so I like it ^^
- emotional video, really ;)
Also, it's very informational and comprehensive, subscribed !
What's wrong with American motors?
@@wiseandhumble2470 mmm inefficiency and reliability issues for starters ;)
@@KC16A6
Wow I think we all got dumber from your comment.
Your on the wrong channel English Muffin. This is all American iron on this channel
@@midsouth2strokes185 nah... you had already reached a depth impossible to beat
you're on your own, there, buddy 🤣🤣🤣
also, from your grammar skills, I can safely assume you're a fine specimen of Southern inbreeding lmao
You're lucky you didn't blow the welds on the intake
+Ford RS lol
that's a good fast and the furious quote... God I love how stupid they were
Your lucky stupid isn't fatal.
+Ford RS golden
They were fine. The danger to manifold light didn't come on.
I'm curious about how much it would make with the filed rings?
Probably 2
+1
600 is damn impressive, next roadkill episode, how much reliable HP can they make out of a 305 chevy on spray!
Hell I would've been happy at 500 just for a street machine to merge on the interstate haha
Koshunae Same for me, it made loads more than I thought, I am just curious how far it can go.
How many pulls at 600 h.p. would she have made! Now we will never know. Guess I'll have to build one now......stupid show makes me spend money, lol. Love it!
84/89 Bell-Brand
Maybe a couple hard pulls, but sooner or later that piston would've gone.
2, maybe 2 and a half passes! lol
Guess it really depends on if we're talking 1/4 or 1/8 mile? 3 to 3 1/2 in the 1/8th and prolly 1 1/2 to 2 full passes in a 1/4 if I was a gambler!! Personally, I would've stuck with the (quite impressive might I add) 150 shot at 550hp total and made 10-20 good passes and cashed in on the little 305 while gambling!! 💵😂
Oops, my bad...I jumped the gun there thinking of what I would've done versus wasting the "Little Engine that Could" on dyno pulls 🤷♂️
This show could not be any better.
"This ChinGaDERA"....CLASSIC!
always thought it was chingadera
chingadera
A wonderfully suggestive word for "thing". Safe to use at work or in the bedroom.
"Are you done playing with that chingadera?"
"I can't seem to get that chingadera to work!"
LMao i was about to say that too!
+cheeriomartinez well i been cussin in spanish since childhood and I swear its chingadera or dang been saying it wrong all my life haha
Chingadera
anyone else watch this just to watch an engine blowup, and was disappointed.
I wanted to see that thing turn into confetti.
And Harry, I need it by tonight
Blew up many stock engines in my life, was always disappointing... You need lots of boost to make it exciting~
Yes... but at lest no one or thing is killed
I once had a piston disintegrate, and the rod goes up and down in the cylinder until it pokes thru the side of the engine. I wanted to see something like that.
Thanks. I know nothing about cars and you explained this in a very simple way for someone like me to understand. Now feel confident putting a NOS into my VW Beetle. Bout to shame some muscle cars!
This was actually awesome and informative. ive seen people run stock caste iron V8's on spray and they last. makes me want to run it now
Richard Arcuri
On race gas and a 250shot on a stock 355 it ran for 3yrs and only thing went wrong is my head gasket. I think it would've been good if I had head studs instead of head bolts.
lol it was informative how other than showing us that you can run nitrous on an engine upgraded for it since he was nice enough to list all the upgrades on it. Still waiting to see that "bone stock" engine he was referring to.
Always use FelPro blue head gaskets....won't blow stock or cheapies Always will
Aj Johns well the test was the bottom end
aj johns+, he didnt claim it was bone stock and no this engine is not upgraded for nitrous use. its a mild street engine that RUNS ON PUMP GAS and uses pretty much all stock parts besides the cam/lifters. Obviously you know nothing about nitrous which is ok we all gotta learn but you didnt even care to watch the video and learn anything about it either. he talks about the benefits of forged internals in the vid so whats up with that. Properly upgrading an engine for nitrous would have included forged pistons, connecting rods, and crankshaft. along with a wider than stock piston ring gap. please think before you speak. thanks.
Iv done this with a 350 it did really well with a 200 shot for about a year and probably ran well over a 100 bottles threw it. When I pulled it out it was still running. 😎 Great Job guys👍
GreenBoy at GA Farms you did 100 bottles of nos in a year?
@@DannySystem well there is 365 days in a year and I was a avid Street racer so yeah it's not hard to go through a Hundred Bottles if you spray a lot
@@DannySystem that's a rough idea also so roughly A Hundred Bottles if he did the math it was probably more like 95 92 96 somewhere in that area still I ran a shitload of nitrous through it.
wait can we see the dyno chart of the blow up
yeah!
I was curious of that myself!
It blew up before reaching peak hp/tq looks like. Wouldnt see anything but 400-500hp then drop off.
+Taylor Jenkins were you there?
just watch the video and pay attention dude
A lot to comment on here, but pulling the engine apart and adding turbo pistons, main and head studs with HP valve springs and better head gaskets would give this little hot rod some life on the street with around 600 hp. Great video, looks like fun for sure
I've seen things get blown on your show, I've seen Hookers get beat up badly, next think we know you guys will be PowerStroking in front of all of us. You guys need to get it together. 😜
But the Hookers at least go payed..
They weren't any less effective after the beating though.
Paid*
jonnyjb69 I wasn't talking to you, dicknose.
Lets all be nice... and pass around the Hookers.
At 6:17 when u said "chingadera", that made me crack the eff up! I was not expecting that. I enjoyed the video FYI.
I was about to write the same thing
Lol
Yeah me too I was like wtf did he just said this chingadera... he must be working with lots of raza
Lol yup got me too
Honestly
"Bone stock" *proceeds to point out various different aftermarket parts*
mario None of wich Will make a difference
he clearly says "bone stock short block" u prob dont know what a short block is huh lol
Bone stock short block not the cylinder heads
mario literally just commented this you beat me to it great minds think alike
This is a "bolt on" which is something added to the engine. The engine is still in its "stock" form as they didn't replace any of the internals. You can consider NOS as an air mixture
The funniest, and ironic thing about this whole video was him saying "Dont call it NOS/NOZ, cause that's a rookie movie" and 30 seconds later a commercial for NOS comes on and thats exactly what the guy in the commerical called it. 🤣🤣🤣
I have a crappy 305 sitting around.
This video makes me want to throw some money at it...
JeepCollector91 Not Worth It. Get A 350. i Made The 305 Mistake Once.
240mph UGR Gallardo Same. lots of money on a depressing result
I do the same thing with strippers
It's not worth it.a 350 would be better.more power.tourqe.more pulling power.305 will drink as much gas when pulling a load, often bogs down,more rpms, decrease gas mileage.the 350 with higher rpms, power will pull that load,less bogging.305 is only good for fuel economy
snoop furlow um not absolutely true
"WARNING:DANGER TO MANIFOLD"
Nico Mendoza roflmao
Nico Mendoza shut up!
"Closes laptop"
Car stalls and motor fails
Monica!!
Carb lyfe boi
*tries to learn something about cars by watching a motor trend video*
*doesnt know 95% of the vocabulary they used*
BrownSUPERMAN go buy some textbooks from a technical college book store. introductory ones. it's a cheap way to learn.
Patrick Massey
Or you could look it up. Plus it's free.
BrownSUPERMAN lemme teach you something, engines are not motors, motors are powered by electric...
LaZy Jeff It's electric engine or motor? when it's in a electric car.
engines go up n down to make things go around. motors go around to make thing go up n down
My Brother did you grow up in my family. Chingadera! You kill me. Loving it.
I really don't understand the hate given towards 305 SBC's, they run smooth, can produce a decent amount of power even if it's a little low, but the real talents are how much fuel economy and mileage 305 cast iron small blocks are blessed with. 263,000 miles on my '92 Camaro's bone stock 305, runs like it's brand new, just warm her up a little and she's ready to rip!
..thats all a joke right? decent power, fuel economy, runs like new after warming up...That thing is only getting good fuel economy if you are comparing it to a say a 74 deville...
Those and the 307 have always been boat anchors, I'm impressed that it made that much power on it's own, as well as took the lower levels of nitrous........as well as how much money and what parts they dumped into it before it blew!
well.....it's because they're turds. They weren't even up to the task when they were new, as anybody with a 5.0 Ford of the same era would have demonstrated to you at every available opportunity.
You didn't even need a 5.0 Mustang, I could take them down with a 4dr Hatch Lebaron with their early 2.2l Turbo 4 that only good for just shy of 150hp.
GreenJeep1998 True. Those turbo Mopars were nasty little sleepers.
Should have filed the piston rings prior to testing to really see how far that 305 would go.
That was not part of what they wanted to test. Stock shortblock with no modifications. Most people won't be able to properly open the rings. Most will hurt things more as they don't know hot to file rings.
I'm just sitting here, in Europe and the guy says "just a small Chevy engine, 3.5".
WUUUUUUUUUUUUUTTTTTTTTTTTTT, that's huge xD We drive some fucking 1.0 EcoThreePistonEngines >.>
they hilariuosly poor power for the size though.
We get big engines from euro manufacturers. You've let your governments run your lives.
You can reverse it.
billybobjoe198 That's kind of true, many people in Europe are stupid and they think that socialism/communism is the best system in the world, and the European Union began... with it's shitty rules, and tells you what your country must do. Sad.
Ahh, but Euro engines arent cast iron pushrod stuff from the 70s. They actually have some finesse
305ci V8 they came in many GM cars Camaro, Trans am ..These cars also had 262 V6. 350ci V8 The 89' Trans am Had a 3.8L V6 Turbo which was 12 secs 1/4 mile Which was very fast for a stock factory car
225k miles Honda V6 J-Series J30A5 Engine, ran 100k miles on 100 shot, 30+ 10lb bottle and never an issue! Tune it Right, set it up right and you'll never have issues. Only issue, finding a place to fill the bottle
if nos doesn't blow up engines
people blow up engines
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dose that mean toaster doesn't toast toast
toast toast toast
xD
that made my day
No, people toast toast
Actually, people toast *bread.
It isnt toast until it comes out of the toaster. :)
seems legit.
YEAH TOAST!
you guys should try nitrous on a 5MGE inline 6 2.8L.
The "Bulletproof" engine.
Bullet proof? Never heard that about them before. I have 2, one on 300kkm that will blow by the rings at full throttle, the other has 190-odd on it that's blown a headgasket but will cut 5 laps on track drifting before it overheats and starts to lose oil pressure. Both stock HP.
Or really test the engineering on a soch 5ME, the one in my little Celica Supra just takes upgrades like a champ. I've gotten 250hp with all factory internals and oe ecu
Or a 2jzgte!
Liam Hughes i think the battle for most bulletproof engine on earth is between the Ford 300 inline six and Mercedes OM617...
Liam Hughes 4g63😁
I thought it just "plug and play" like in F & F franchise right?
The time-warp effect is a myth, I can never watch FnF without the cringe. THANKS.
@@Karghy its Hollywood bruh, not a documentary
Art LIES
Nitrous can actually be plug and play. Modern ECUs should be able to account for a 25-50 wet shot without a tune. Maybe even a 75 or 100 shot. It’s wise to keep an eye on your AFR and do some logging regardless though.
I used to run a 150 on my stock tune stock engine
Stock 4.3 vortec in an 01 Blazer.. colder plugs and 150 shot.. I've put probably 20 bottles though it.
Would you go through the trouble to gap the rings if you were me I have a 03 Sonoma I’m itching to run like that
They sell energy drinks that big?!
Steve-O’s favorite
Lol
You should do a video of how much horsepower ur car losses over time, say like when u buy a new car it has 700hp and 9 years later how much horsepower do u have still, what can 9 or so years do to ur hp rating
Well one huge figured difference between a motor loosing horsepower and a car losing horsepower is that the motor's energy is being pushed through a transmission, and axles, and wheels. The other parts that stop rolling so nicely tend to fight the motor and cause it to break down faster. Bearings start losing polish, cams start getting a little flat, wires corrode, rings thin... Eventually the parts that solidly transfered energy from the piston head to the rear wheels get so much slop that the power actually ends up working at breaking parts down till they just don't work no more.
My 92 explorer used to get 17mpg, now it's down to 12 and the radiator leaks. But the ac works great!
Or you could just do a compression test and compare it to factory which would show you how bad valves, cam and rings are wearing.
I don't think you caught the drift of what I was saying, the comment was more of an answer as to why vehicles lose horsepower over time. As for your comment, a compression test does nothing but show compression, doesn't tell you if a valve is stuck open or of a gasket blown or a piston melted through. No way could it give you an idea of the nature of several components in a system as far as wear goes. I also fail to see any linkage between a cam being flat and compression. Unless of course your talking about an exhaust valve not lifting, and giving too much compression. But that would be cam failure, and even then that could be valve failure, or blockage, so yeah... Compression is just compression..
I answered your question precisely. Not my fault you can't grasp it.
I am pretty sure a compression test can tell you if a valve is open, blown gasket, or a melted piston because if you had any of these you would not have compression.. right? And if your intake valves aren't opening enough or at all to let air in because you have a wiped lobe you will have 0 compression. Compression tests are one of the most helpful of diagnostics you can do .
world's greatest drag race 6?
Coming soon!
+Motor Trend Channel but not until they spam it up with a commercial about how it's on no demand first.
There will be plenty of teasers for it first lol you will see them soon
+Motor Trend Channel better have the shelby gt350r and focus rs in it
So what was the dyno numbers before she suffered the melted piston blues
Probably the best production values on TH-cam ...
Revisit this and add upgraded pistons/rings only and go full send on a 2 shot...Ramp it up 30%~75% over 3 seconds and bet you hit 800. If it survives, go full 50%~100% and tickle 900 and make a 4 piece crank 😂
😂😂😂😂
Brian B 👍🏼👍🏼😂
they'll just make you pay for motor trend to see it or give you commercials every 30 seconds
Brian B
🤣😂👍🏼
Hurt it real good...
why didnt we get to see the numbers on the run that "blew it up"? isnt that what we all came for?
at 13:43 you can see the power on the screen
Looks like 623 or so
We saw how much power it could take, we didn't see how much power it *couldn't* take.
He said two 150 kits would be turned up to 100%, so 300hp shot of nos when it let go. The run before the dmg was at 250hp
At 5722 rpms it made 567.9 HP and 521.3 ft lbs of torque.
It's funny how we car people can care so much for an engine.
We have to. Most of us ain't got money.
It's a living "thing" to us.
Being a PMD guy, Chevy is my mortal enemy, but it's still sad to see one "sent to the chair".
I only care about things that belong to me, if someone destroys an item worth thousands it don't matter. However if anything of mine, even if it's only worth a penny gets damaged I'll fucking kill whoever is responsible.
Um they care because it took money to build. Do you not care about your things that cost thousands..
Mike Morrison
I know some punk ass kids on here who do. Completely lost it when one fool in the comments below another video made the claim that a Grand for a PC is cheap.
This was very impressive! I have no experience with nitrous and have never watched someone tune an engine with it. Really interesting.
WOW free Motortrend content ? WTF?
Rare
Well it was obviously sponsored !
About 9:05 you said it'll go LEAN if the bottle pressure is low. I think you meant it'll go RICH if the bottle pressure is low.
I agree, the fuel solonoid is still on.
+David Freiburger y? not progress the NOS in . just to see if it would have lived. .
explain i dont know anything
Lean means too much oxygen not enough fuel, when you run low on NOS you run low on oxygen, but are still supplying the same amount of fuel. Too much fuel means you are running rich.
ahhhh thank you
I wonder how much power would have made if it had the Rings cut appropriately for like a 500 shot.
Filing down the rings and nothing else isn't going to prevent you from throwing a rod through the block. It's just another preventive measure.
@@ConcussedGaming Yeah but the rings were the main failing point here, would of been good to see where it ended up with the ring gap opened up. My guess since they mentioned the head gasket blew out as well is that it would of failed at that point anyway due to pushed head gasket but the piston would of survived that far. The rods were hanging in to that point though!
It would have had tons of issues with blow by at some point with the rings open.
@@AB-80X Not really, when we say file the rings out it's still only talking in thousandths of an inch, so the gap isn't that great, the metal only expands a relatively small amount so it would probably only need a few thousandths bigger gap. That would still increase blow by, but by an insignificant amount, much better than smashed pistons :)
I agree, the only part of the dyno pull u would loose power on is the bottom end before it made any difference to the overall power and torque number
Next time I need a stock engine I am coming to these guys for sure.
this "chingadera" blows up 😂
Gotta love how he bowdlerizes in English by using a Mexican Spanish curse word that every Latino instantly recognizes. Multi cultural knowledge. Now say int in Brazilian Portuguese.....Russian.......German......Arabic
#13
13:48 that piano track made me tear up a little..
I think that's "When Everything Dies" by God is an Astronaught
I woulda killed for that 305
Orlando Aspericueta buy one
You need a better paying job then.
Then you need to raise your standards lol
Killed what?
This particular 305 was quite impressive (for what it is) but you'd be insane to spend a single dime really trying to build one. Hence the reason they grenaded this one instead of a 350!
I had this exact setup in my 70 Chevelle,cast pistons and all and ran countless bottles of nitrous through that motor shifting at 6700 perfect!! Undefeated including aluminum head 427s and 454 ls6s I destroyed them!! If you run a wet kit set the timing right and don't lose fuel pressure you'll be fine 👍👍👍
very predictable result. still amazed that 305 can take that much because I was saying to myself that it couldn't take no more than 75 shot. Thank you so much for uploading
Quite impressive...of course, I'm shocked that thing was making 350ci type numbers with the same cam and heads! Better than some actually...I would've been impressed with those n/a #'s from an actual 350 setup the exact same!!
I find it funny that on the 13th episode, you guys kill an engine.
* Twilight Zone music fades in *
13 likes? Illuminati
Illuminati confirmed.
+JerZeyFiveOh nah illuminati luv avgas
dam lol that was one ass kickin 305!! R.I.P
I want a little 305 like that! I was impressed by the power it made even without nitrous. But I think the 150 shot was a great match for it. Makes me want to build it one! I have a friend with an old S10 I could throw it in.
If y’all listen closely he says stock short block, that means the block and pistons and crank are stock, meaning everything else isn’t haha.
They used a hopped up top end so that the top would not be the failure point. It was specifically targeted at the bottom end.
ABOlsen69X good point! Didn’t think of that. Cancel out any variables. Just figured the bottom end would be the first to go no matter. But with this experiment don’t wanna take the risk in ruining the results.
Then change the title of the video... to How Much Nitrous Can a Stock Short Block Engine Take? - Engine Masters Ep. 13
@@paullawrence3714 these kinds of videos aren't for idiots with little to no common sense.
Impressive! I say do the same test again but open up the piston ring gap to see if you can get to that 700hp mark. I think its possible!
1:18 is where you find out it's not so stock.
Wanna impress? Pull a 305 out of an 80's monte and run the test again.
notjustanoterhrandomguy if they can get the 305 out of an 80's monte carlo to start THAT would be impressive! JK, I like the way you think though.
It’s a stock short block... that’s all they claimed it was, and that’s exactly what it is
Also i just realized this comment was from over a year ago and this just makes me look like an asshole. Sorry
Richard Skipper remember nitrous on 305 stock heads can cause a lot of heat
ya there is no way they could actually test the strength of the rotating assembly on stock heads they are just too restrictive. even with vortec heads the piston didnt fail. the ring gap expanded enough to close up the gap causing it to break. same thing woulda happened to a more expensive forged piston. either that or the ring woulda broke but somethings gotta give.
Impressed by cast crank and rod strength.
Jessie: "was that fun?"
Crowd: "OOOOOOOHH"
Dom: "what u smiling about?"
Brain: "dude i almost had you"
A Troll Brain ? Brian ?
How much NOS can a Toyota with 233,000 miles take?
All of the NOS.
as much as you want if you are okay with melting the pistons
99999999999 shot
I guarantee you pump a 50 shot through that baby and you'll see some fireworks
+Marcos Fierros but it's a yota. I bet it could take a 250 shot and be fine lol
So it's salvageable? Guess that means a revisit with built bottom end.
I want a budget NOS build!
This WAS the budget NOS build.
+cracklingice no it wasn't, they said this was a stock engine not meant for NOS at all.
Short block does not equal budget build. Therefore this was the budget build.
And it wasn't a stock engine, it was just a stock short block. The cam and short block up are all aftermarket.
I have an old abused 305 in my demolition derby car and that thing is an absolute animal
I always wondered what the deal was with the rings not being a full circle and the blow-by through the gap. I had no idea that the worse problem was the gap closing - and that you might need to widen it. Very interesting, great video.
The fast and furious has a red button to push. Movies are real.
Good God, you mean the same 1st movie that made under glow and body kits "Cool"? lol
+Jackie chan_WTF i wish they didnt... Ricers are annoying
Ricers are just about gone now.
It was a quick rise and fall of them, I knew that back when that BS started, no way was this going to "trend" for long.
This "trend" is here to stay, I'm afraid because rice appeals to the stupid and there has always been plenty of those around.
I still see ricers on the streets. Maybe not as many of them as in the early 2000s but they are around.
I just think that movie is funny. Because they are seen to be the best of the best street racers. Yet their cars are only running 10 second 1/4s...... And his Rx7 is like the unbeatable car when 10 second rx7s are sooooooo common.
Whenever I saw NOS it will remind me to Brian O'Connor green eclipse 😂
I watched this 5 years after it’s first showing and it’s hilarious
2:33 99% of CSGO players wish they had precision and accuracy like this dude pouring oil
Here In Minnesota I run a wissota pure stock and all we are aloud to run is a Chevy 305 and I can say there not that bad guys build them and make 300+ all the time lol
Makes me wanna just build the stock 305 H.o. in the Monte SS intead of ripping it out and doing the everyone same Jane 350 swap. Lol
I did a 305 for the Popular Hotrodding magazine Engine Master's. Made 468hp @ 6,500 And 412 ft lbs.@ 5,100. Cool little motors
So by stock you mean not stock.
lmao
Basically . . .
He said "bone stock short block" A short block is an engine sub-assembly comprising the portion of the cylinder block below the head gasket but above the oil pan.
Actually, he said "bone stock SMALL block." The rotating components are stock in the engine which is what would typically fail on an over-nitroused engine.
No, He clearly said "Bone stock SHORT BLOCK"(and its also in the description section) which is what is effected in a nitrous application as there are rarely failures of the valve train contributed to the application of nitrous.
wow in 5 min I learned more than from all car forums together
thank you guys
have a question my friend had exactly the same piston failure on hellcat, but he was running 2.75 upper pulley
no Nitro, is this kind of failure only attributed to nitros or not?
thank you very much
Didn't know Robert Duvall was a nitrous expert
😂
"with this chingadera" lmao
Enrique Cruz Lmao he says that often. When I first heard it I was like wtf.
Eduardo Fraire never expected him to say "chingadera" haha hilarious
lmao mexican chingaderas
That got Me too
That was funny
Put a fuckton of nitrous through an old 22r. That motor will send a piston into space when it finally does fail
BadIdeas101 SpaceX
+1 for 22r or 20r or 22re would be ok for me too! Heck I'd like to see these guys do any of the jz line up as well!
Nitrous oxide sends me to space too lol
Bro nitrous is no match for the the 22R, it can handle anything!! Plus 100psi!!
Best episode I’ve watched yet. lol. So proud of that little 305. Good boy!!
"It's bone stock" - proceeds to put aftermarket parts all over it.
Yeah that block is bone stock which is what nitrous breaks
Pistons went before 700hp
What’s your point?
I said the same thing definitely not stock but people don’t understand that we’re referring to the (title)
@@theblackdude Not too loud there's an elephant in the room...
@@theblackdude If its all bolt on parts and you did not change any engine internals such as pistons, rods, crank then generally at the race track people will call it a stock engine.
@@connoisseuroftigolbitts his/her point is, bone stock means you didnt upgrade ANYTHING, literally bone stock meaning it has had no modifications what so ever, yet here we are
Should have tore it down after each test to show the damage, not three run then assume the third one did all the damage.
Dude.... They have something called a time schedule.
Well you can do that when you remake the video and show us all how to do it right.
If my comments bothers you so much, then you do it. As to the fact of the time schedule, they are using an impact on head bolts. That speeds the time up, however it's not recommend.
I have no need to remake it. *I* have no problems with the video the methods, or the conclusions drawn....you did.
The only way you can them make better videos, is by commenting. Was bashing their work made simple observation.
Imagine waking up to see that crate in the garage with a safe 150 shot ready to throw into whatever you got. I’d cry if joy, people always dog the 305 but it’s a beast no doubt. Let people keep thinking that soo we can get them cheap cause the next guy thinks the stock 5.7 is gonna make soooo much more power lol
You got that right . I'm on a 150 shot and doin 12: 93
That was pretty good fellas. Fun to see that old horse blow an aneurism.
NOS RATES THEIR JETS BY REAR WHEEL HP THATS THY IT MADE MORE
All the losses are "taken care of" before any power adder, adding the nitrous doesn't create any more - so a 100 shot adds 100 at the wheels the same as at the crank.
Thats impressive they took a lethargic 305 put vortec heads, cam, good intake and carb, and it laid down over 355hp and 325tq! That surprised me. Then it took a 150 shot and produced over 550hp!! like it was nothing! What's funny is if anyone had that set-up on the streets, it would last a long time, as long as you had the safety gear for the nitrous that they had! Lol you'd be cleaning house with a 305 on juice😂😂😂 oh how you'd piss a lot of people off! Can't believe it made over 600hp and took it😃 from how they went from 50% on both to 100% on both, that beast was probably making over 800 before it went!!!!! Impressive, if they filed the rings for nitrous who knows how much power it would have made...
Russell Mostrom what cam is it again?
Same changes would make 440 hp with a 350.
sivvybee Truft
Whp is different then motor hp NOS is based off whp for numbers
I've seen 1300cc Hayabusa lumps make a reliable 570bhp (at the wheel). That's over 7.2hp per cubic inch. Keep going car guys, you're nearly there!!
570bhp and 50 ft/lb torque pls leave
Try nearly 300ft/lb. On a machine that weighs 260kg, that's fast, whether you stubbornly fail to admit it or not!!
There's a reason lightweight kit cars can often be found running bike engines......they're just engineered better. Big V8's are less fussy, high-revving fours provide much more hp per litre.
Dont't get me wrong, I love V8's too, Can't I love both??
i seen a lawnmower 1 cylinder make 1000 hp. i disnt say anything 😄
Huyabusa was probably built for spraying, forged internals. Also it's a smaller engine which means less rotating mass
old F1 engines used to produce over 1000bhp PER LITRE!!! unbelievable, but true..
I wonder if C&A gapless rings would've made a difference? that said, this is the best video I have seen for nitrous use. You can say NOS if your talking about a NOS kit, NOS is a nitrous kit
That was an awesome video. Now we know what we can do with a stock 305cid. MotorTrend you should rebuild this engine to the highest performance you can go for the street and show us what kind of hp we can get from this little rat.
"Completely Stock"
...Continues to list like 30 mods...
intake,carb,cam and vortec heads. that's 4. you can't count
Reminds me of my co-worker saying he had a "Stock" Firebird with full bolt-ons and $2,000 in suspension bits. lol
And heads, intake, carb, cam, balancer etc.
the only changes were the heads,cam, intake and carb. the short block is stock. these are typical changes. i would even say the heads are stock since they are vortec castings.
It is still basically stock my good man...completely stock short block with stock Chevrolet heads decent cam and intake isn't very much. The point of the video is how much a stock bottom end can take, period. Point well proven!
I really want to see that 305 rebuilt exactly how it was, except gapped for nitrous. I have a feeling it might be scary.
Nobody is gapping rings on crappy cast pistons
@@FrankBullitt390that's am ignorant comment. noone building a "budget" engine is gonna leave the ring gap tight amd grenade an engine they could barely afford to build. same with rebuilding the engine and turbocharging it. Doesn't take alot of effort to gap the rings, and certainly beats rebuilding the engine immediately because it blew up
@@zragevii4705 He who cant afford forged pistons cannot afford a nitrous system and if he did it would be a 100 shot only, then it doesnt even matter.
@@FrankBullitt390 100 shot only, and you just watched a 305 survive more until it failed from improper ring gap. I'm not saying you should, but it most certainly works
@@zragevii4705 You saw a 305 last one pull with a 150 shot. You gonna beat on that at the dragstrip, an hour away from home? I am not!
How much would it handle with ring gap and good gaskets?
Wtf you guys didn't repair it and go for 700 hp wtf.
It'd be cheaper to just replace the engine and salvage the performance parts.
Future episode idea?
That's what I'm saying get it nitrous ready and go until it blows