These videos have helped me immensely in my first months as a plumbing apprentice. From nailing the union interview to just knowing what different tools are used for and what math to use on the job. Thank you, the videos are concise, informative and entertaining.
Please do more of these type of videos ! This is awesome ! I hope to be as good as you are at plumbing someday . Could we get a video on plumbing stacks ? How to plan it out & approach it ? 8:358:35
Thanks for this video, Roger. In 2021, i started fabbing steel square duct for the first time in my life, using manual brakes and forming Pittsburghs on the brake. When i got to radiused 90s, i broke out the notebook to do layout. I replaced a return plenum with two deadhead 90s with a larger plenum that had turning vanes. (I couldnt move the system.) Given the cost of vane & rail, i drew this stuff out on paper and it saved money by avoiding mistakes, plain and simple. Great stuff!!
Good Friday morning Roger, Thank you for your videos. I let the tape measure perform some of the math. When ever I get my center to center measurement I add my two makeup fitting measurements using your example 1' 2 15/16" and hold my tape measure past the end of the pipe to be cut 1' 2 15/16" then mark the pipe cut mark at the center to center distance of your example of 2' 11 9/16" letting the tape measure do the part of the math. Have a good Friday and a great weekend.🌞
Please do more of these type of videos ! This is awesome ! I hope to be as good as you are at plumbing someday . Could we get a video on plumbing stacks ? How to plan it out & approach it ?
Great for laying pipe before concrete is poured to keep it in the 2x4's...otherwise you gotta offset cause you didn't measure right and didn't line it up properly. It takes more time to do it right but saves you from fixing things afterwards in the long run.
Big fan . Amazing videos great teaching methods. But I had too rewatch this a few times because the colors almost looked the same . When explain the centers
If I have these fittings you show laid out and dry fit in place, I sometimes use a piece of twine held bottomed out in the sockets as a measuring tape. Several feet of twine will bunch up in your pocket very comfortably and it is one less tool to lug around. A ball of string or twine is super cheap, will measure lengths up to four or five feet held taught depending on the length of your arms, and can be used to make a quick plumb bob. To determine offsets using a couple of 45s for nearly parallel drain lines, I use the Pythagorean Theorem to get the center to center length of the diagonal (hypotenuse). I don’t know why anyone would memorize trigonometry constants to figure those out, even for a test. Exam prep classes should stick with geometry as there’s already enough codes and constants to dedicate to memory.
Hey Rodger, Im new to plumbing and I'm wondering were you got 2 feet 11 and 9/16.I understand all the math but I'm unsure where the number cam from. Thank you for the imforitive videos.
Hey roger I got two questions where did you get the 2-11 9/16 and how did you convert it to 1 -2 15/16 I’m a little new to this new type of measuring thank you for your time
after throwin enough plastic pipe around i finally caught on to realizing i dont even really need to look at a tape if you just hold your mark fitting to fitting with your thumb, then you transfer the tape to the pipe and move your thumb to the pipe and cut. if you measure from hub to hub you can just add enough for the hubs. which u can easily do if youre still holding a fitting in your hand, just double it up
Im a plumber and this is great info. Tough to figure all this out while under a house but im thinking hell probably saving in materials. Is there a app?
The technical term for eyeballing is “relative dimensioning”. Makes me feel better to call it that lol. Woodworkers use it often. Hold parts up to each other and mark it with a sharp marking knife. Then use a square to extent knife line. Knife line leaves a perfect spot for your chisel or dovetail saw.
Great, but who's going to do it like this? I didn't get too far in school, so not me. I will watch this a couple of times, maybe I'll understand and maybe it will be good for me. But I'll still just lay it out. Merry Christmas, Roger.
Exactly, it may take a couple of times to learn and understand it..but after that everytime you do this...you KNOW you're doing it right each and every time...there's not better feeling..Happy Holidays to you
Cast is even easier. Since there’s not a hub like PVC or ABS, all you need to do is subtract the Center to End measurement of the fittings. For example. If your total length is 12”, and the fittings C-E are 3” then you would subtract 6” for two fittings. Therefore your pipe needed would be 6” Most plumbers will take off an extra 1/8”-1/4” per band to account for the rubber. Giving yourself a little extra wiggle room helps for the install :)
So i got a good one for you. What do pros do when sewer pipes are not running parallel but running gradually in opposite directions. How the hell do you ever get the angles to meet say 22.5 for example.
I learned these formulas in school, but sadly lost them over the years because most “plumbers” just measure hub to hub with a tape or use their fingers for potable water lines to make their cuts.
It's more accurate if you start with a known length without actually reading what the dimensions are. It just means I don't have to change for every fitting. In the UK the metric system and dimensions are much easier to work out. Mathematically
Hey Rodger I like the video but come on brother you know I’m the field no one is pulling out the Charolette pipe fitting diagrams. Show people how to take a take off with the fitting I. Your hand or lay the hub in a wall and pull a center and subtract the hub. Also show some tricks for 45 offsets. Field stuff not just the match
So therefor you are going to pay someone $30-$40-$50 an hour to sit on the side of the form in mid june 100+ degree heat to do this kinda of math just because you are looking for perfection? There's has only been one person in this world that was perfect and they crucified him... Besides half of these guy's barely got through highschool math and you are going to expect then to do this minus fractions none the less. Get out of here with all that.
You don’t have to use a form..there’s an app for it, and you can practice and study at home so when you’re on the job you’re not using so much time figuring it out…all it takes is work and a mindset change..
I have a 6th grade education and own 2 businesses that make very good $. So I’d say your thought process is messed up. I’ll explain it like this…..a monkey can be taught to do tricks for bananas. We are the monkeys but our bananas are cash….some monkeys just get more bananas.
I’m a plumber and we all account for fitting takeoffs when figuring for our cut pieces every single day. You might as well say to just eyeball all your measurements from here on out because nobody has time for a tape measure. You would make so many critical mistakes and waste so much expensive material it would blow your mind.
Please do more of these type of videos ! This is awesome ! I hope to be as good as you are at plumbing someday . Could we get a video on plumbing stacks ? How to plan it out & approach it ?
Please do more of these type of videos ! This is awesome ! I hope to be as good as you are at plumbing someday . Could we get a video on plumbing stacks ? How to plan it out & approach it ?
Please do more of these type of videos ! This is awesome ! I hope to be as good as you are at plumbing someday . Could we get a video on plumbing stacks ? How to plan it out & approach it ?
Please do more of these type of videos ! This is awesome ! I hope to be as good as you are at plumbing someday . Could we get a video on plumbing stacks ? How to plan it out & approach it ?
Please do more of these type of videos ! This is awesome ! I hope to be as good as you are at plumbing someday . Could we get a video on plumbing stacks ? How to plan it out & approach it ?
Please do more of these type of videos ! This is awesome ! I hope to be as good as you are at plumbing someday . Could we get a video on plumbing stacks ? How to plan it out & approach it ?
These videos have helped me immensely in my first months as a plumbing apprentice. From nailing the union interview to just knowing what different tools are used for and what math to use on the job. Thank you, the videos are concise, informative and entertaining.
Please do more of these type of videos ! This is awesome ! I hope to be as good as you are at plumbing someday . Could we get a video on plumbing stacks ? How to plan it out & approach it ? 8:35 8:35
Are you talking commercial or residential?
Residential
Would love more layout videos. What a professional!
Noted!
Thanks for this video, Roger. In 2021, i started fabbing steel square duct for the first time in my life, using manual brakes and forming Pittsburghs on the brake. When i got to radiused 90s, i broke out the notebook to do layout. I replaced a return plenum with two deadhead 90s with a larger plenum that had turning vanes. (I couldnt move the system.) Given the cost of vane & rail, i drew this stuff out on paper and it saved money by avoiding mistakes, plain and simple.
Great stuff!!
Roger, you may be the best plumber because you know what you're doing you are an expert at plumbing
I appreciate it....years of practice
Thank you Charlotte for making it 4-15/16th" and not 5" to keep things nice and complicated
Great Video ! This is real gold here and a preview to how serious plumbing. Thanks again Roger.
You are very welcome
Good Friday morning Roger, Thank you for your videos. I let the tape measure perform some of the math. When ever I get my center to center measurement I add my two makeup fitting measurements using your example 1' 2 15/16" and hold my tape measure past the end of the pipe to be cut 1' 2 15/16" then mark the pipe cut mark at the center to center distance of your example of 2' 11 9/16" letting the tape measure do the part of the math.
Have a good Friday and a great weekend.🌞
Excellent!! See some people can do it quickly AND right each and every time...Keep it up 💪
Thank you for recording and posting this valuable educational video.
Please do more of these type of videos ! This is awesome ! I hope to be as good as you are at plumbing someday . Could we get a video on plumbing stacks ? How to plan it out & approach it ?
I love these "advanced plumbing" videos.
More coming! Is there anything specific you’d like to see?
Yes, can you narrate a sewer camera inspection or hydro jetting? Or tips on bidding jobs. Thx Roger
I like that, my team will look into that, thanks for the suggestion! If we use this for a video are you okay with us crediting you?
@@RogerWakefield yes sir Gregory DeRosa Plumbing in Hollywood, Fl! Thx.
this is great... love it! Thanks, Roger!
Great for laying pipe before concrete is poured to keep it in the 2x4's...otherwise you gotta offset cause you didn't measure right and didn't line it up properly. It takes more time to do it right but saves you from fixing things afterwards in the long run.
You are right and over time the more you do it the faster you'll become.
Going to ranken for plumbing soon, but pregaming as best as I can, thank you!
Can you give us more examples of this? Like using actual fittings and cutting pipe so we can see a visual
That’s a good idea 📝
Big fan . Amazing videos great teaching methods. But I had too rewatch this a few times because the colors almost looked the same . When explain the centers
This takes longer than just cutting it long and cutting again to get it right 😂
If I have these fittings you show laid out and dry fit in place, I sometimes use a piece of twine held bottomed out in the sockets as a measuring tape. Several feet of twine will bunch up in your pocket very comfortably and it is one less tool to lug around. A ball of string or twine is super cheap, will measure lengths up to four or five feet held taught depending on the length of your arms, and can be used to make a quick plumb bob.
To determine offsets using a couple of 45s for nearly parallel drain lines, I use the Pythagorean Theorem to get the center to center length of the diagonal (hypotenuse). I don’t know why anyone would memorize trigonometry constants to figure those out, even for a test. Exam prep classes should stick with geometry as there’s already enough codes and constants to dedicate to memory.
Very informative!!
Glad it was helpful!
Eyeball plumber here. I’ve been eyeballing it for forty years and I never worried about 1/16” on 4” PVC or ABS. 15/16”=1” to me.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I know. Borrrrr-ing
Hey Rodger, Im new to plumbing and I'm wondering were you got 2 feet 11 and 9/16.I understand all the math but I'm unsure where the number cam from. Thank you for the imforitive videos.
Hey roger I got two questions where did you get the 2-11 9/16 and how did you convert it to 1 -2 15/16 I’m a little new to this new type of measuring thank you for your time
Would you please post a video how to figure center to center measurement take off of 4” cast iron between 90 and 45 degree
Who has time for all this on the field over one piece cut? You never get things done 😂
after throwin enough plastic pipe around i finally caught on to realizing i dont even really need to look at a tape if you just hold your mark fitting to fitting with your thumb, then you transfer the tape to the pipe and move your thumb to the pipe and cut. if you measure from hub to hub you can just add enough for the hubs. which u can easily do if youre still holding a fitting in your hand, just double it up
good ole rule of thumb 😂
Im a plumber and this is great info. Tough to figure all this out while under a house but im thinking hell probably saving in materials. Is there a app?
It’s an old app… It’s called a calculator…. Sorry I couldn’t resist. There probably is brother.
@@RogerWakefield haha you got me
The genius leaving my body and reentering as information really put a dent in my ego 😂
Please make videos like this. Help me as a current apprentice
I’m not sure about every state but where I tested , a huge amount of the test was exactly this
How difficult was it?
@@RogerWakefield to me it was hard af. It was long and stressful. Things you know turn into second guessing.
What state?
@@shellcracker18 West Virginia
Bro I’m al already done with the project!!!
🤣🤣
The technical term for eyeballing is “relative dimensioning”. Makes me feel better to call it that lol. Woodworkers use it often. Hold parts up to each other and mark it with a sharp marking knife. Then use a square to extent knife line. Knife line leaves a perfect spot for your chisel or dovetail saw.
Thats a good term for it lol
Great, but who's going to do it like this? I didn't get too far in school, so not me. I will watch this a couple of times, maybe I'll understand and maybe it will be good for me. But I'll still just lay it out. Merry Christmas, Roger.
Exactly, it may take a couple of times to learn and understand it..but after that everytime you do this...you KNOW you're doing it right each and every time...there's not better feeling..Happy Holidays to you
This video reminded me of why I hate fractions and trades that use them... There is no need.
Could you do examples with cast iron?
Cast is even easier. Since there’s not a hub like PVC or ABS, all you need to do is subtract the Center to End measurement of the fittings.
For example. If your total length is 12”, and the fittings C-E are 3” then you would subtract 6” for two fittings. Therefore your pipe needed would be 6”
Most plumbers will take off an extra 1/8”-1/4” per band to account for the rubber. Giving yourself a little extra wiggle room helps for the install :)
So i got a good one for you. What do pros do when sewer pipes are not running parallel but running gradually in opposite directions. How the hell do you ever get the angles to meet say 22.5 for example.
If most of these open shop boys started Union they wouldn’t need this video😮💨
UA142
I did not understand anything
Watch it again and again and again lol
There has to be an app for that! 😂😂
There is a Charlotte app for the fitting take off! There is not (as far as I know) an app for calculating take off! Maybe one day😂
Awesome
Now, imagine how much easier this would be if you just used a metric tape measure.
I learned these formulas in school, but sadly lost them over the years because most “plumbers” just measure hub to hub with a tape or use their fingers for potable water lines to make their cuts.
It's more accurate if you start with a known length without actually reading what the dimensions are.
It just means I don't have to change for every fitting.
In the UK the metric system and dimensions are much easier to work out. Mathematically
Roger went to the beach for a week, lol.
The Einstein of plumbing.. 😆 much like Einstein everybody thinks your crazy
But I know what I'm doing...
You really need to go to mm lol its soooo much easier in metric
Let's see this with a couple 45's for an off set or something 🤔 Sometimes they can be a real pain in the butt
I’ve made a couple videos on calculating off sets🤣
@@RogerWakefield sweet, I'll see if I can dig'em up. Thanks 👍🏼
Go to my channel main page, and search “offset” you should find them 👍🏼
What shirt is that??
Hey Rodger I like the video but come on brother you know I’m the field no one is pulling out the Charolette pipe fitting diagrams. Show people how to take a take off with the fitting I. Your hand or lay the hub in a wall and pull a center and subtract the hub. Also show some tricks for 45 offsets. Field stuff not just the match
That’s why he makes the big bucks
To me, using inches instead of centimeters is no different than eyeballing it.
Lol, agreed 😂
That’s the way it would be for us using metric….
😂😂😂😂😂😂 ok
Stupid math. No one told me I'd be using it my whole life!
So therefor you are going to pay someone $30-$40-$50 an hour to sit on the side of the form in mid june 100+ degree heat to do this kinda of math just because you are looking for perfection? There's has only been one person in this world that was perfect and they crucified him... Besides half of these guy's barely got through highschool math and you are going to expect then to do this minus fractions none the less. Get out of here with all that.
You don’t have to use a form..there’s an app for it, and you can practice and study at home so when you’re on the job you’re not using so much time figuring it out…all it takes is work and a mindset change..
I have a 6th grade education and own 2 businesses that make very good $.
So I’d say your thought process is messed up.
I’ll explain it like this…..a monkey can be taught to do tricks for bananas.
We are the monkeys but our bananas are cash….some monkeys just get more bananas.
I’m a plumber and we all account for fitting takeoffs when figuring for our cut pieces every single day. You might as well say to just eyeball all your measurements from here on out because nobody has time for a tape measure. You would make so many critical mistakes and waste so much expensive material it would blow your mind.
@@RogerWakefield what’s the app called
CPF Tech Tools
No one wants to tech this
Thats unfortunate...why do you think that is?
@@RogerWakefield older generation not wanting to pass on the Trick of the trade
I’m still waiting on my apprentice card waited a month
that's very sad to hear...soon that older generation will be retiring...
@@RogerWakefield yup I waited 4 years to do plumbing and I can’t get enough of it in Louisiana we are switching to the IPC 21 code book
Please do more of these type of videos ! This is awesome ! I hope to be as good as you are at plumbing someday . Could we get a video on plumbing stacks ? How to plan it out & approach it ?
Please do more of these type of videos ! This is awesome ! I hope to be as good as you are at plumbing someday . Could we get a video on plumbing stacks ? How to plan it out & approach it ?
Please do more of these type of videos ! This is awesome ! I hope to be as good as you are at plumbing someday . Could we get a video on plumbing stacks ? How to plan it out & approach it ?
Please do more of these type of videos ! This is awesome ! I hope to be as good as you are at plumbing someday . Could we get a video on plumbing stacks ? How to plan it out & approach it ?
Please do more of these type of videos ! This is awesome ! I hope to be as good as you are at plumbing someday . Could we get a video on plumbing stacks ? How to plan it out & approach it ?
Please do more of these type of videos ! This is awesome ! I hope to be as good as you are at plumbing someday . Could we get a video on plumbing stacks ? How to plan it out & approach it ?