I keep seeing comments about this so let me clear something up: Every section with manga spoilers is marked as so in the chapters. I also say before each of them the name of the topic, followed by "manga spoilers". This is your warning to move onto the next topic if you don't want to be spoiled. Also, let me just confirm that I don't necessarily agree with everything said in this video. I am simply restating the theories and concepts within this iceberg. Thank you for watching!!
About OST names. Season 1-3 osts were made by Hiroyuki Sawano and he always gives osts weird names, not just in Attack on titans case. Also the rumbling is an intro and they always had regular names, because intros are being made not by sawano. In season 4 composer is Kohta Yamamoto and his doesnt have a habit to give weird names to osts.
@@acstack5665 Same! I literally was just settling into watching the video and couldn’t believe that was the first thing. I literally bought and read the final manga book to go ahead and see how the story ends smh
I don't know why people are so blown away by the tall trees. Regular titans only grow up to 15 meters max. The average oak tree is anywhere between 15-25 meters tall, and the older ones can easily reach 30-40 meters. And that's just oaks. Species like Sequoias can grow up to 100 meters in size quite regularly. Sure, the trees in the forest are still anonymously big (or rather thick with really thick branches), and they're especially strange given how many of them there are in such close proximity. But that could easily be chalked up to artistic liberty.
Old growth trees get extremely large, especially conifers. It’s literally just an old growth forest with normal sized trees idk why theres a whole theory about it
We're specifically told during the female titan arc that the trees are 80m tall, and that they are going there because it is the best place to be able to climb up high enough to escape a titans reach, so that's why people think they are especially tall. They were directly told that they were, and that they were special because of it. Reiner and Bert mention resting in them for the same reason during the clash of the titans arc. Later, It is literally mentioned by Zeke that the forests of giant trees are only found on the island, and are a "natural world wonder" that he would like to show to Gabby and Falco. So that's why people believe the forests are unique, because it is canon that they are.
There’s also a lot of influence by Norse Mythology. Ymir is the first living being and a Frost Giant. And when Odin kills them it’s splits into the 9 realms. Like how Ymir the founder is split into 9 Titans. Also the Giant Tree Ymir in AoT falls into could be a reference to Yggdrasil the world tree in Norse Myths. Also the Halucigena could be the Niddhogg, a worm like creature that lives at the bottom of the Yggdrasil tree and maintains it. Finally Eren is kinda a parallel to Odin. I don’t know a lot about this one but the one scene when Falco is taking to Eren in the hospital for the first time there is a shot of the shadow of the tree above erens head, and Eren at the time has a bandage covering his eye. Odin is often shown wearing an eye patch and in one myth, hung himself from the world tree to gather more knowledge about death.
Idk why so few people bring up the norse connection when talking about AOT, they're all pretty obvious even if you only know about some surface level stuff (Ymir, tree of yggdrasil). Also I'm pretty sure that the Edlians were originally of norse origin judging by what we see in a couple flashbacks
woww that's so interesting. If I hear this I think there's no doubt Isayama took inspiration from Norse mythology. Where else would he get the name Ymir from?
When eren said that he felt disappointed when he found out there were humans living outside the walls I felt that. Cause if I was living like a bird in a cage thinking it was my whole world, and there were people living outside that world, I would be so angry
This. Eren wasn't disappointed by the existence of other humans because of some genocidal hatred for other people. He was angry because he spent his whole life believing he was reclaiming the world from the titans for humanity. Only to find out that his struggles were basically ignored by the greater world and to an extent caused by it. He desperately wanted freedom only to find out that there will always be people opposing it just for the crime of existing.
I don't think that is the reason. I think he was disappointed because he was expecting a beautiful and unique world outside the walls and he thought he would be free, to only find the same world he left in the walls. He realized the outside world is just the same and their enemies only changed from titans to humans, That is why he says "If we kill all the humans over there, will we finally be free?".
I think the theory on Erwin is interesting, after rewatching S1 and how he approaches Eren after Bean and Sawney get murdered and asks who's the true enemy here? As if he knows humans are just as evil, I think in some way the basement was to fulfill what he already had strong suspicions on. I don't think he'd be a yeagerist per say but I do think he would support the idea of fighting back against Marley
The Attack Titan berserk mode is a stupid theory. The only reason Eren's Titan looks the way it does during the battle with the Female Titan is to show Eren's anger towards the Female Titan the same way Sasha's eyes took the shape of glowing hearts when Krista brought her food in training camp. They animated her that way to show her love for food not because she went into some feeding mode.
I think it looked like that because when titans heal they have steam coming off of their body, I think his healing at that point accelerated so much to the point where he started burning.
You should read what happened in the manga then. Berserk titan is anime only and a strong evidence for the time loops/aoe theories. As another guy said, they released a poster where eren's bony founding titan has blue eyes and is surrounded by fire like the berserk titian as well.
The berserk mode is not anime only. While Eren was pinned down by Reiner when Shingansina was invaded by Marley, he grabbed his upper jaw as he screams. His titan looks like in berserk mode in that panel.
16:06 levi’s cleaning had a purpose. He had them clean so much with time restrictions bc you never know when you’ll have to up and go at a moments notice, and that exact situation happened in season 3 when they were running from the government
No Levi was obsessed with cleaning because he was obsessed with being perfect in general, this is because he always thought Kenny left him because he was not good enough. Another example of this is Levi's handwriting. It is confirmed somewhere that it's so good it's like a newspaper font
@@wesleypola8180 What dude nobody took him in he just partnered up with that dude I can't remember the name of. But the cleaning obsession came from Levi
That doesn't mean much. It's literally just a quirk added to Levi and a bit of a "don't meet your heroes," kind of realism. Cleaning doesn't only involve "packing up," but also you clean the dust etc. If I were to search for an abandoned cabin and see it perfectly clean instead of tons of dust, it would be obvious t me that someone was there very recently. So all the cleaning is kind of pointless in terms of being able to quickly leave or "leave no trace behind." It also improves his "actually cares under the hood," persona. Despite his obsession with cleaning, he doesn't care about holding the bloody hands of his comrades.
I believe the "Paradis geography" point can refer to the size of Paradis in comparison to its counterpart in Madagascar. The reason this is brought up sometimes, is that if the scale of AoT's map is 1:1 with our world, the width and area of the walls are DRAMATICALLY overestimated
@@jbonemastaflash6852 That is true, but the diameter of the walls have been revealed in the story, and it vastly dwarfs the size of real-world Madagascar, which creates some discussion about the scale of the AoT world.
See, the map literally appeared in one panel and wasnt even discussed, while the walls were extensively explained. I think we obviously take fact of the walls' diameter over the one off barely legible map we saw
20:35 Fans: "Erwin would support the rumbing and show no mercy" Canon-Erwin: Never murdered a person, always tried his hardest to keep casualties & colateral damage low, felt guilty for the deaths of his comrades (who volunteered to be part of the SC), *made Hange his successor who didn't support the rumbling* It's beautiful how misunderstood this character is.
There's also the fact that, unlike Eren, Erwin would have no drive or goal anymore after the basement. It was made pretty clear that finding out about outside the walls was his dream, so I doubt he'd have the will to keep fighting for nothing. Also, the truth of the outside world would probably be brutal to Erwin. All those sacrifices, all those lives he sent for death, only to find out that there's a huge world outside the walls, entire civilizations, and they all want your people dead.
@@joaoassumpcao3347 i actually think that Erwin always understood that the truth about the outside world is gonna be mind-blowing😅 proving his father was right would probably makes him happy in some way. at least, he seemed excited when they found out about the whole titans-are-humans thing. but his guilt and suffering would never leave him, that’s for sure
Reiner is more obviously suffering from depression in season 4, as we see him contemplating offing himself before hearing Gabis voice (think it was hers, could've been Falco). We also see him not really eating all that well when with his family or with the other cadets (he pays for them, but isn't really seen eating himself).
Also how during the declaration of war he saved Falco then just chilled in there, with Falco giving the line "If he had the will to live" or something like that.
16:52 For the music part, AOT was inspired a lot by German culture. Jeager is an actual family in Germany and a word that means "hunter". Ackermann is "farmer", Reiner BRAUN (yes that company is German), blond hair everywhere, etc... plus Sawano Wrote a lot of German lyrics from what i've heard (didn't really investigate this) so OSTs like Vogel im Käfig (Bird in a cage) and Bauklötzen( Building Blocks) have German lyrics. Also for XL-TT, this is the OST that plays in the first episode at the appearance of the Colossal Titan.
Its just a Sawano quirk. If youve listened to his stuff, you know all his songs have quirky titles. As for why not all AoT songs are like this, its bc theres 2 ppl working on the music for AoT. The other guy, Yamamoto, has few contributions in the earlier seasons and then eventually takes over in later seasons with Sawano only doing a couple songs here and there.
Paradis’s geography is probably something explaining how four rivers can go from one point in four directions in the walls. I’m guessing the theory is that the geography was modified when the walls were made.
I always thought that they were more like canals and the water didnt really flow, thats part of why their boats are powered/guided with that rope system
The question that I have about the last tier's elder gods, would WE be those elder gods? We watch these characters fight, struggle and die, all for our enjoyment
If AoT is in fact the creation/daydream of the Eren in the junior high timeline then canonically he’d be the elder god tho you could then expand upon that to say that AoT’s creator is the true elder god and then expand that further to say that god is the true elder god
The Attack TItan berserk mode was probably Eren pushing his Titan limits and refusing to stop fighting, this would explain the fire around him since titans give off so much heat. He probably just overused his titan till the point that it started to heat up.
It was most likely related to manga ending and Isayama gave them tips about what Eren would do in the end. It was probably related to Eren's unique Titan so the animators added those details for some sort of foreshadowing. Then Isayama changed his mind and The Rumbling became the new thing, thus all those crazy Eren titan effects are now pointless.
Remember that at the time we had 3 different unique Titans with unique capabilites. Colossal Titan was BIG BOI with steam powers, Armored Titan being... armored... And Female Titan being athletic and has the power of calling titans to eat her, as well as hardening. At the time Eren's titan had absolutely no unique ability other than being on "humanity's side."
Even at the end the Titan itself doesn't have anything special. Eren even gets the hardening power from some sort of random capsule during Rod Reiss' cave. Being able to see memories etc. is also something he can't do alone and needs contact with someone who is royal blood. Plus he doesn't even need to be in his titan form to do it. So I guess Isayama was planning something destructive for Eren's titan but at the end changed his mind and went with the weird memory shit.
@@fortnight5677the “weird memory” power drastically nerfed th founder titan and made it only possible for the user of both the founder and attack titan to freely influence history. AOT would be a very different world if the royalty could influence both the past and present of Eldians. (Would be impossible to steal the founder)
I like that they added Pieck being female while having a male looking titan as I'm pretty sure technically men could be given the female titan depending on its random assignment or inheritance
I can't believe the Cycle is so deep. I read the ending of the manga last year as Part 2 of Season 4 ended and the entire Cycle idea was my immediate conclusion and I really didn't grasp why people hate the ending so much.
Yeah the cycle part was a good ending imo even though its sad. I think people hate on what eren said. I think what he said was fine too so disagree with the haters
The theory about Eren's head becoming The Source of All Living Matter and the young boy in front of the tree sent shivers down my spine. i was eating and i had to stop, pause the video and ponder all my life choices....... because if the thoery is right, everything that happened was for nothing, the best case scenario being guaranteeing a few hundreds of years of peace before everything goes down again. my head is spinning bruh
The source of all living matter gave Ymir the titan powers due to the circumstance she was in, that doesn't mean that anyone who would come into contact with it would get titan powers
@@hjuy4049true.. the boy was accompanied by a friendly dog and he seemed curious when he found the tree.. meanwhile Ymir had her heart filled with anguish and hatred and was being chased by wild dogs when she found the source. The boy will get new powers but I'm sure they would be completely different from titans and would probably bring good to the world
Theres actually a reasoning behind the strange OST names. Each with a bizarre name are done my Hiroyuki Sawano; and one of his trademarks is his weird names for his songs, it can be seen on other projects hes done such as Xenoblade Chronicles X. He does occasionally name them something normal but the reasoning behind more and more normal OST titles in Season 4 could be due to alot of it being done by Kohta Yamamoto.
I think the titan forest is the only physical evidence that remains after each "cycle" of the titans restarts. The tree Ymir fell into could've been one of those trees, the tree that grows from Erens head adds a new tree to the forest , so on and so forth. The fact that it's a full grown forest by the time the events of AoT take place suggests that many cycles have taken place and ended before current Eren's begun
Well that doesn’t really make sense because Eren’s tree is in Shiganshina, not even close to the forest Also the boy going into Eren’s tree was clearly from a distant future. Civilization was destroyed, but it’s remnants were obvious. But back in Ymir’s time there was clearly no technology or a past civilization. I think the cycle will continue, but Ymir’s cycle was the first one
@@silksongreactions well maybe before ymir there was also a futuristic civilization but because humans do human things like war, the whole world got destroyed to which they had to evolve to ymirs civilization. Like Einstein said ''I'm not sure what weapons the third world war will be fought with, but in the fourth world war they will fight with sticks and stones.'' which obv means we go back to 0
I prefer to think that the circle will not repeat. Yes. We see the kid in front of the tree. But he was not running for his life followed by dogs. He was walking calmly with a dog by his side which makes the scene quite different
Levi’s cleaning theory is definitely true. My mom grew up in poverty and she turned out to be a clean freak as well because of how dirty her childhood home was
The 'The cycle will never end, no matter what' part made me finally understand what happened in the ending. I was so confused as to why the tree grew so large and what it meant. Having Eren become the new 'source of the titan powers' idea makes sense to me. The fact that the young child also goes inside the tree like Ymir did makes it believable that he could gain the titan powers like she did before and the cycle would start anew. I also wanted to say how shocked I was that the Video had so little views or likes. The quality was so good that I didn't even notice. I watch a lot of Iceberg or 'Full Story Explained' videos and all of them had many views and likes and seeing your video with a similar quality get so little wondered me. I hope your videos will get the attention they deserve soon! I hope to see more of these kind of videos from you :)
The source of all living matter only emobies the desire of the user, it doesn't just make titans. Zeke explained that the paraite latched onto ymirs desires, an undying body, connection to others, freedom from pain, strength, etc to reflect her desires in physical form. A different person making contact would reflect their desires, not just turn them into a titan, thats not what the parasite does.
@@lukefox01 So the power of the titans specifically might not cycle, but a person making contact with the source of all living matter and gaining a supernatural ability will?
I think the tree is purely symbolic of the cycle of hatred/violence rather than meaning the parasite will latch onto this person at the end and start a new cycle of superpowered fascism
It was stated, that human technology was close already to making titans obsolete for military purposes, so it's questionable, if titans could even pose a threat to humanity, if they ever returned
I'm pretty sure Eren's berserk titan form was an anime-only thing. It didn't appear in the manga. At the time of the first season, Studio Wit wasn't certain that there would be more seasons so they wanted to end it with a bang, so they made the berserk titan for cool animation stuff.
I assumed Paradis Geography is referring to the weird variety of biomes on Paradis considering how small it is. While training they climb a snowy mountain, are in some weird desert area, there’s also deserts to the south of Shiganshina.
I’m pretty sure the mirror man episode happened before they even joined the scouts. It happened when they were little and Mikasa was running late to meet Eren and Armin at a hot air balloon
No it actually occurs right after eren is eaten in s1. Mikasa is at a loss and is grieving, and retreated within her head to think of them all being happy and alive together. She goes back to when they were kids as a coping mechanism, and creates that story to escape from reality. The mirrored man theory, however, I belive may be false. It could be eren from the future, but I am much more likely to belive that it is the writer, speaking to mikasa as an equal, making her relize that there is nothing she can do and she isn’t in control, and to return to her place in the story and let it play out
The One where it said the attack titan fights for eren will is even more convincing when you realize that in season 1 the attack titan tried punching mikasa and in the end mikasa ended up killing eren.
It's probably just because when Eren first tried to transform, he didn't have control, and did things on a impulses he had before transformation. He rages against Titans first time - kills Titans after transformation. Second time he has argument with Mikasa right before transforming and pretty pissed at her - so his first thought after transforming - to attack Mikasa
the "Bertolt is the strongest shifter" theory probably comes from a line of dialogue in Season 4. During the flashback to when the warriors first landed on Paradis as kids, Reiner says to Bertolt "Says the guy who was able to control the collosal insantly!". If he was actually able to immediately gain complete control over the collosal titan that would probably make him the most gifted shifter by far.
16:02 As someone in the military, cleaning is a big thing. In general it’s sort of seen as a discipline kind of thing but some higher ups take it more seriously than others depending on their background. With Levi, I can imagine that yes his background in the underground is way he’s so notoriously focused on it (as well as Levi just being scary to any regular person) but having a cleaning period itself is standard in the military. It’s a pretty cool inclusion for us enlisted folk!
16:00 to me Levi’s obsessive cleaning is trauma related. Not only did he grow up in poverty but he was literally sat next to his dead mother for a week. At the very least, it maybe a subconscious factor that he isn’t aware of
19:58 Glad to see someone finally pointing this out. If people paid just a little more attention to season 1 and some of the OVA's, it was clear that Annie and Armin had a thing. Or at least, there were little things that insinuated they'd be romantically involved in the future. Idk why people keep saying they "came out of nowhere" after the boat scene.
The best theory is the one that says the atack titan not only pass his will to the successors, but controls their actions sometimes. So Eren, Grisha and Kruger has moments were the titan's will take control and they behave totally differently compared to what we are used to or to the character like 10m ago. Has a whole thread about this on some blog, with even some "proof" that the art on manga changes at those moments.
I think the “Paradis Geography” is referring to the sheer amount of environments present on Paradis, with temperate forests and deserts in an environment where it also snows heavily in winter.
The "Eren doesn’t care about Freedom" is an interesting one that deserves its own video. In School Castes & junior high manga’s (both of which are stated to be the "true" characters simply in different circumstances) Eren sticks out as a legit mass murderous psychopath. Junior high is supposed to be a kid-friendly show, yet Eren is the *only* guy in the series who keeps yelling about killing all their enemies. His feud with the Colossal titan (one he still wants to kill for) is over a cheeseburger. People think he’s weird because of this. Keep in mind how "freedom" isn’t a theme for him in these two shows. His only consistent theme is the desire for violence. Also some of his opinions regarding freedom are antithetical to the concept. "If someone tries to steal my freedom, I won’t hesitate to steal theirs". That sounds like the exact revenge bullshit that kept Eldia/Marley conflict going for 2000 years. A true freedom fighter will treasure that fundamental right so much that they would *never* submit others to the same despair. What this says about Eren is that he doesn’t actually know what freedom is.
Junior just parodies Eren's desire to fight titans. Eren respects people who fight for their desire to do what they want, or "freedom", that doesnt mean he wont oppose them when interests conflict
Starting from “keep in mind…” till the end of your comment, I wonder if this logic of Eren’s is what perpetuates the CYCLE that eren lives through (the ending of the manga)
@@Sernival you’ll soon learn that anything can be convincing if worded correctly. He respects people fighting for their freedom the same way Khabib respects someone for fighting. Junior is more than a parody. Isayama is very deliberate about his characterisations
The problem is the contemporary liberal definition of freedom is incoherent. It's only an ostensible justification and a hijacking of a word with long held positive connotations. The classical definition would be a greater capacity to do the good. A homeless drug addict would be less free than someone who regulates their behavior to avoid drugs. The modern definition is just hedonism with whatever mores the current dispensation holds.
I think the geography bit is discussing how the geography is represented in different media. The anime has it mostly be fields and then a big desert before the coast, the OVAs imply there is a canyon/mountain area inside the walls, which wouldn’t make sense inside of the walls since Armin mentions that mountains are in the book about the world outside of the wall, but doesn’t know what a mountain is, also the trees on the island seem to be ridiculously big, not to mention the ice burst stone material and crystal caverns from season 3.
Something I'm surprised no one's mentioned (Or at least if someone has I haven't seen it), Early in season 1 when the Scouts try to kill Eren, Mikasa and Armin with canons and Eren stops it using his titan ability, he for whatever reason makes a flower grow underneath them. Armin even comments on it not being there a moment ago, so do titans have some kinda plant growth ability?
I think it was a way to make us understand the inside of the titan. It was so big, and formidable, while inside it, mikasa and armin were being protected, and the flower didn't grow there but rather it survived. In a place of extreme heat and pressure.
To counterpoint the "The cicle will never end" theory, please have in mind the situations of Ymir and the boy. Ymir was almost dead, hunted and followed by dogs, that and her will to be alive is what made the titans exist in the first place. However, see the boy, the boy is calm even when exploring remains of a death civilization, he is curious and has a dog by HIS SIDE. The boy willingly enters the tree by curiosity not unlike armin's, he still has the child-like wonder that Ymir couldn't have, that's why the cycle won't repeat. A power might appear, however the circumstances that led into the creation of the titans are not longer there, something new will appear and not necessarily a bad thing. I think that's an interpretation that not a lot of people in the AoT fandom has come to realize and i find that it is a shame...the history was always about "The world is a cruel place, but there's beauty in it" and i think this interpretation makes the message consistent and stuff. Yeah, long text lol
considering the hallucegenia or whatever the worm thing is called can create titans by exposing its own body steam, i seriously doubt what you said is anything but your own head cannon. Im pretty sure titans will always be a curse on humanity in the AOT world
Titan Curse existed bcuz Paths existed. Paths existed as a result of Ymir's Desire for Connection even after death. Titan Curse was lifted only bcuz Ymir let go of these connections, inspired by Mikasa. So, unless the kid has the same desire for connection, no Titan Curse will appear again. Before you reply, know that the paths exist after Ymir's Death and not when she fused with hallucigenia and got founding Titan powers. Hence, Titan shifters live only 13 years after transformation as Ymir died at age 13. Also Levi and Mikasa could be connected through paths even if they were immune to Founding Titan Powers.
I can speak a bit on the OST naming scheme, I made a paper on Hiroyuki Sawano. The reason most of his soundtracks have cryptic language and Unicode symbols is to mitigate the effect the title has on the listener. Despite his intent, some of these tracks can be deciphered to unveil more context for the song, like TWO-lives being “TheWeightOfLives.” Sawano wasn’t called back for S4, that’s why they’re basic now.
I have a theory that wasn't on here. I believe that Dina was the one to give the command to have her killed, meaning her death was technically suicide by Titan. Since time works differently in the Paths, it's entirely possible that she and Eren met and spoke, and that she told Ymir to obey him long enough for him to escape with Mikasa. Since Ymir was only going to obey Zeke at first, and not Eren, it makes sense that it would have been the same back with the Smiling Titan. She would only obey the Royal Family.
Plausible, but you need to remember that time works weird in the paths. It's very much possible that future Eren controlled the titans to attack her. But there's also the fact that titans who aren't titan shifters can't seem to be able to influence the paths, since they are only connected via an activated hallucigenia, which they have no control over. I believe only those who can maintain their humanity (titanshifters) can influence the paths in any way. And thus, when Eren touched Dina, Dina couldn't access the founding titan, but the founding titan activated anyways, thus Eren was in full control. Which probably explains why Eren was afraid the government was gonna transform Historia into a pure titan so he can access the founding.
There's a scene when Paths-Zeke is dragging Paths-Eren through Grisha's memories; Grisha is hugging baby Eren, with Paths-Zeke and Paths-Eren standing behind Grisha observing. Baby Eren is looking straight at Paths-Zeke and Paths-Eren with a kind of wonderous look on his face. I really do feel that, somehow, Baby Eren was seeing Paths-Zeke and Paths Eren.
Erens “dream” where Mikasa says “see you later…Eren” isn’t the future. It’s Eren rembering a different timeline where Mikasa confesses her love for him when Eren asks her “what am I to you?” After she says her feeling for him, he decides to not do the rumbling and they then run away into the mountains where Eren and Mikasa live together for 4 years until Erens dies from the Curse of Ymir. Mikasa never killed him. Before he dies, he tells her to forget about him and to move on. So Mikasa says “see you later” because she doesn’t want Eren to see that she is distraught and very sad that he is about to die.
AOE - This was confirmed by Isayama right before The Final Chapters special released. He didn't like the ending himself and stated that the Anime is the Definitive version of the story of AoT.
Also per Rome, Isayama actually said he took a lot of inspiration from Roman history. To me this seems like a comparison to the late Roman Empire or the Ostrogoth empire. Eldians would be the Romans, and Mareleyans would be the Ostrogoths (descendants of Germanic tribes) who took over the western empire briefly after 800 years of invasion, oppression, and intermingling.
@@DarkCreepyFairy I think it implies that the history of the AoT world would have been the same as real life, but the apparition of the first titan and a barbarian tribe having control over it changed history and made the mentioned barbarian tribe the powerhouse instead of the romans.
Some corrections/analysis after 1 year of this video being uploaded 3:04 This is just because east asian languages L and R sound very similar and are used interchangeably then when trasnlated into an english language the sound is more distinct 3:46 His name is oliver and it wasnt to make females more prevalent in the warrior candidates, it was actually changed due to Isayama thinking an older male within the warrior candidates wouldn't make sense since then why would marley send children instead of him. Also, all the warrior candidates are young children, so he would stand out. 4:10 Corridor Digital TH-cam channel actually made a video about this and Paradis Island along with the rest of the world although looks like an exact mirror of ours its actually a whole lot bigger. Paradis Island alone is bigger then Texas. Also the coloring for the different territories dont seem to be accurate 5:30 Hizuru at least in the anime is depicted to be below Paradis Island so the east coast of the flipped africa 6:17 Pretty sure this is confirmed. If you're questioning the time not matching up due to the curse of ymir this is probably before he got the beast titan 9:12 Again TH-cam channel Corridor Digital actually counted this too and it was 540000 when they calculated it pretty sure. They also use CGI to visualize the rumbling better, so check them out! 11:49 Im sure its just a little anime exclusive just to represent Erens (literal) steaming rage and regenerating so fast while still in a titan form his vains are literally on fire. It doesnt go much deeper then that probably. Isayama probably added it to make the fight look more appealing. 14:22 This was just a test run so Isayama could find a publisher after getting rejected by shonen jump. Im sure some of it is relevant but it shouldnt be taken so seriously in contrast to the show 16:52 Isayama probably wanted to do more with the sound tracks with cryptic messages and what not but due to the various artists it was probably difficult to coordinate and just gave up on it. 18:11 This is because Eren used the paths to tell them their last messages and the first scene where Eren crying is a contrast to Mikasa at the Cabin and crying. Whether this is to show Eren went back in different times and told them physically and then erased their memories or he only used the paths is up to interpretation. But the significance of Eren waking up from a "Long Dream" and crying could be a video on its own. 20:35 No he wouldn't. End of discussion. 21:36 The sad reality is that their is no god in the aot verse. It is the source of hope that there is a higher power or god mentioned by Armin only to discover the harsh reality is its all a chain reaction from the hallucigenia. Also the represents to how Eren and Armin are disappointed how the world beyond the walls actually are. 22:00 up to interpretation what happens to the boy, but it is confirmed that the message of "the cycle will never end" was the main objective for the ending. Eren also sure that war would continue even without titans but eren didnt account for another ymir situation happening because he couldn't see the future beyond his death. Since the boy at the end credits is not a subject of ymir eren cant see into his memories. Instead the boy who lets just call John l, once John enters the tree and connects with the new source of all living matter which was passed down to embody erens head, John would start a new founding arc called Subjects of John. And the Titans probably only happened due to it the hallucigenia connecting to ymirs spine. Id imagine John could connect to it differently and create a whole nother different type of power.
21:54 we only really discovered the north and South Pole in the 20th century. Before we had no idea how the poles looked like, so the map is probably historically accurate (for attack on titan)
Watching this after the anime finished up is pretty awesome. Finally get to watch some AoT content without fear of spoilers. Good work!! Also, can't remember where I heard this but it's an explanation for Eren's berserk form. Basically, at the point in time when the first season came out, they ratings weren't expected to be amazing and a second season wasn't really a consideration. Someone decided and convinced the animators to go all out with the final battle to drive hype (in hopes of a second season) and to finalize the series if it ended there. A lot of anime get their single series and it ends on a dumb note or place. This theory states he has a berserk mode just to make the end be a bigger climax and spectacle if it ended right there.
12:16 I think the most plausible reason for berserker mode was that it would look really cool at the end of a season & that they didn't know when or if they would get to do more of this series later.
Hallucigenia when being discovered was once believed to walk on the spikes on it's back (Upside-down), Our modern understanding now shows that is not true and walks on the tentacles instead (Right-side up), but it does mirror the fact that the world of AOT is upside down.
I honestly think AoE isn't completely out of the question, for Isayama has stated the anime is the most canon version of Attack On Titan, since when Isayama didn't like something in the manga he would change details in the anime as he worked with the animation studios. But changing something as the drastic as the ending of manga does seem unbelievable.
Its not unbelievable. God you people really don't know shit about the evidence like its all our there yet you mfs blatantly disregard Isayama's inspirations, hints, etc. AoE is coming and not because oH iSaYAmA rUshEd tHe mAngA eNdinG. He planned it to end that way because its a build up to the anime ending. The manga is the previous timeline. Anime is the final timeline.
The geography reference involves probably 2 things: The first is the forests of giant trees that you already covered. The other is the iceburst stone, which is also found only on the island. That is what people think that was the "natural resources" that Marley aimed to get from Paradis. (We later learn that Marley was really acting on an agreement between Fritz and the Warhammer titan at the time to crush Paradis after 100 years).
Huh? Agreement with the warhammer Titan to crush the island after 100 years? What show have you been watching, all they say is that the Tyburs have been watching Paradis’ actions. They even make a point of saying the warhammer has never been off of home soil. Marley obviously knows less than the Tyburs because if they knew the king of the walls wouldn’t activate the rumbling, they’d have no reason not to invade the island
@@juliomenendez9458 What did you think the Tyburs were watching Paradis for? To find out if their ship would sail? Did you pay attention at all during Willy's production? Where he explains that the threat to the Continent with the wall titans was just a bluff to buy 100 years of peace? And how Fritz said if they came after then, he would do nothing to retaliate? Were you not paying attention when the whole crowd and even Gabi gasped at the fact that the propaganda up until now had been a lie? That it was Fritz himself who decided to end the violence and retreat behind the walls? Miss when Willy said his family had been carrying the secret that the King would not retaliate for all that time with them and he was finally going to tell the truth? Remember how Uri under the will of Fritz said it was his wish to create a Paradis before the world was ruined? Did you not understand what Frieda meant when she told Grisha she would do nothing and that this was their judgement day finally come as RBA destroyed the walls, which was about 100 years after Fritz retreated? What have you been watching?
@@wickywickyjoka So basically we meant the same thing, you just worded your response horribly, gotcha. Don’t know why you wrote so much after explaining the scene, when I’m literally the one to bring it up. Willy only told the world about the lie after Eren takes control of the founding Titan, which would effectively prevent negotiation with the rest of the world and lead to the rumbling
@@juliomenendez9458 No we didn't mean the same thing. That is clear. "All they said was they were watching the island" is saying, "You can't tell that from this one piece of information." The entirety of your original reply was calling into question what I said, not presenting any idea of your own. I can assure you that I never meant to call myself out for misinformation. Sorry, it takes a long comment to type everything when you have more than one example to present. You said that "all they said was," and I had to list all the other things "they" said, because what you said was,in fact, not all "they" said. Also, I can tell you still have no clue because you're still going off about Willy telling the truth now, which is not important to this particular conversation as we're talking about why RBA was sent 9 years before this even happened.
@@wickywickyjoka Willy told Marley & RBA the truth about Paradis' threat 9 years ago (only confirmed in the Manga). He did not however do this because of some agreement. He did this because Marley was about to lose an arms race against the rest of the world, and needed the founder and the resources to stay on top.
If I had to guess the geography at 6:10 is reffering to how MASSIVE the walls actually are, which some have visualized (and it's way bigger then Madagascar)
I guess a thing to note on "paradise geography" is that the territory inside the wall is supposedly the size of France, but that paradise is Madagascar. Now, this doesn't really make any sense since Madagascar is only slight, bigger than France in surface area and the walls being 3 near perfect circles would make it physically impossible for it to fit inside of Madagascar without being partially in the sea. I'm personally not a fan of the world map of AOT being earth but upside down. It's either not very well thought out by Isayama or a simple time saver.
In reality there's no real reason that North should be "up" on a map, besides Eurocentrism in early world maps. If Marley, clearly the world's strongest power, had it's center of being in Africa/somewhere South, like how it seems, it's not unreasonable that world maps would have South as up.
@@helnkel3814 Yeah. I make maps for a living, I knew that. And it had nothing to do with my argument. Also, Paradise and Marley clearly have a temperate Europeanen climate. Very different from the tropical climate Madagascar should be having. So I'm pretty sure that would mean the climate of each continent has shifted southward (or northward in AOT's case) so the enterity of Europe and the Asian should be frozen over.
Fr!! My favorite example is the credits song for s4 pt2 “akuma no ko.” The OFFICIAL (which proves it’s canon and intentional) anime mv for the song explains so much about Eren’s mindset, especially with the way the lyrics and clips are paired. Before watching it I was struggling a bit to understand but that mv cleared up so much for me. Link here: th-cam.com/video/WPl10ZrhCtk/w-d-xo.html
I love the Season 2 ending beacuse it literally shows you Ymir's story Her getting offered by the devil according to the marlians Her becoming a titan King fritz feeding Ymir to her children The great titan war People warshipping other Ymir Jaw titan Ymir The rumbling People escaping Showing Ymir as a god according to Eldians
17:48 one of my favorite theories , it just adds so much depth and ngl makes me like s4 eren a little more likable, not in a weird way i just cant explain it
@@Jxvger yeah but like for example the aoe eren, the whole point of eren wanting freedom is that his friends live long and happy lives like he said in ep 69 or ch 130, but then ends up killing his friends he cares abt sm in the anr. also dont hype yourself up sm for the apocalypse, folk like us are bound to die first, main character syndrome asses
@@Jxvger You’re confusing Eren caring about some humans with his motive to kill the rest. The rumbling was never necessary for him to have a good life, and this is obvious since he willingly orchestrated his mother’s death.
@@saadqazi3833 it was tho. He has memories of his own future. He knows what happened if he tried alternative routes, you dont. Bertholdt would've gotten eaten and changed the time line if erens mom lived.
@@Jxvger He has memories only until the last Attack Titan, so none about the future and what really matters. Also, with this episode it should be clear what his intentions really are
4:39 During the first episodes and chapters credits from the manga and anime Ymir was called as "Freckles" only. There was people that even thought that Ymir was a dude
14:52 she actually randomly appears for one scene in s3 part 2, thats the last time we saw her in the anime I believe Since in the final episode of the anime, they colored the yeagerists hair a different color so it's probably not her
To be fair he said “Eren’s dream. Manga spoilers.” at the start of that part, several sentences and like 15 seconds before saying Mikasa kills him, it’s even written there at the timer and name of the part
8:52 In chapter 122 of the manga, which tells the story of Ymir Fritz, you can see the Ancient Eldians and Ancient Marleyans in their own attire. Ancient Marleyans dressed like Romans, while Ancient Eldians resembled Germanic tribes in appearance. This explains why all Eldians are whites with a German name. It also confirms the theory that the Marleyans were actually Romans. If you think like this, it would not be absurd to see the Mid-East Alliance as the Ottomans.
The Eren being in the past at the beginning actually makes sense if you think of the moment as being from future Eren’s point of view. He also told Armin that he changed several things in the past to try to affect the outcome of the future.
i think it's pretty believable since the series is never played out as "from eren's perspective" so whether he would be visible to the characters is irrelevant.
21:44 "_____ is fuel for Elder gods" is actually a meme embedded into Iceberg charts to mess with people reviewing them. If you glance at certain other popular charts you will find something related being feul for elder gods.
I was one of those ppl who dislike the ending but as rereading and realy analyzing it, everything makes sense. Eren did what he did is in character for him and he has always been like that. I now love the ending but left a bitter taste in my mouth. Isayama is a damn good writer. I usually separate the japanese storytelling to the western one mainly because of culture differences but i put Isayama with one of my fav author Ursula K. Le Guin. I love grey story and characters.
Great iceberg but you totally got Eren‘s intentions wrong… Eren didn’t slaughter because he wanted it or liked it. He wanted to protect his friends (Mikasa, Armin, Jean etc) and thought this was his only way to do so. He never cared for the peace of Eldia. His plan was to become the ultimate villain JUST for Mikasa to stop him (as he already told them, “try to stop me“, he meant it). Because of this he foresaw that not only the Titan powers would probably disappear because of Ymir but also that the world would see the team as the heroes who saved them from Eren or at least not as a threat anymore. That is also why the last chapter wasn’t ooc at all. Eren canonically manipulated the past just for this to happen. He even took influence on Armin becoming the colossal Titan so that he could later enter the coordinate to convince Zeke to stop the rumbling. He wanted to be stopped, he did it for them. Eren was not „always fascinated by the idea of killing everything“, this is simply a severe character misinterpretation. I just wanted to clarify because you mentioned this multiple times. This is also why the anr „fan“ manga is complete bullshit written by mass murder fetishists. As Hanji correctly said: mass slaughter is wrong.
Finally someone who gets it! He wanted to end the Titan curse in a way that would make the people close to him ( and therefor the whole elaina race) look good to create peace! He didn’t want to die, he says it in the manga
Regarding anr, I 100% agree. I'm not against aoe, or against an ending that Eren completes the rumbling. But the whole "genocide happens and islanders live happy!" is just a slap on the message of the show. A series that says, over and over again, that war is inevitable, that humans will find ways to kill each other, that there are no good sides, and a story that showed explicitly that Marley has a damn good reason to hate Eldians, leaving no ambiguity as to how fearsome Eldia was. But these guys look at this and think "yeah, you know what would be a good ending? something that says that actually there is one good side and that the way to end wars is just to exterminate your enemy". I mean, were these people watching/reading the right story? It's insane.
Ok so let me explain the “dream like ending” theory at 18:10 In the original manga, right before the rumbling happened. There was some odd plot holes. The only one I can remember off the top of my head was piek having her gun on her back again when she had just pretended to be dead and it was established before it took 15 minutes to put her gear on. So when the manga came out. We theorized that entire chapter was a dream
I like the cycle continuing theory, I think there could be another aot anime/manga where the cycle is hoping to be broken by eren taking the place of Ymir and thus justifying even more what he did. we could also learn of previous ymirs, this cycle theory reminds me of Hinduism and reincarnation theories.
@@diasluahno it didn’t. Everything in season 4 was purely symbolic. The little kid walking into the tree to tragically repeat the cycle isn’t meant to be taken literally, it’s meant to be a symbol for human nature as a whole. Eren wasn’t inherently evil but he symbolizes the unguided and hurt humans who also help perpetuate the suffering of the human condition.
Berserk mode was not referring to the attack titan but to Levi and Mikasa. The Ackerman's are known for having strength - almost as a titan, without needing to transform. Berserk mode is specifically mentioning times where the two have extreme strength in a moment, like when Mikasa's parents were killed and when Levi fought Annie's titan; besides those two moments there are many more examples of the Ackerman's abilities to exceed their strength and go "berserk".
Lil theory, it shows the world map and it’s only Africa, and some parts of Asia and Europe, I think that’s the entire world but scaled up to normal earth size, it explains why paradis is so large
I understand this video is old, but I just had to step in on the history stuff so it doesn’t get glossed over since it’s finally something I’m knowledgeable of lol. So Marley is clearly Germany or perhaps Western Europe in general roughly around WW1. There is nothing about the Roman Empire that strikes me as Marleyan at all, other than that they are highly militaristic, and expansionists. However the same could absolutely be said about Western Europe in the late 1800’s-1930 (or so). This lines up with the mid east alliance being the Ottoman Empire, as they were a similar yet notably farther behind nation around WW1 to the other European nations. As well as just the fact that the Ottoman Empire existed at the same time that Germany (using a placeholder nation but again could be really any Western European country at the time). So in short marley is imperial Germany, not the Roman Empire, but the mid east alliance is definitely inspired by the ottomans
Coderoin being made of morphine always cracked me up. Like, you made drugs out of drugs, congrats. Putting that chemistry degree to good use. Reminds me of the megaphone in Dave the Barbarian.
In regard to the future Eren theory, most believe that he's invisible to everyone but the viewer. Which would make much more sense to me, and frankly I do believe this theory
@@liad0x Nice. I don’t think I would have been able to watch the show through the years without getting lots of spoilers. It’s the 4th anime I watched, I’ve only been watching anime since July so about 8 months. I used to be a hater but now I love it lol.
I noticed that the lyrics for the attack on titan OST also reference Season 4. “Is that the creator, or the destroyer” could reference Eren and Ymir, with one being the creator of the titans and the other the destroyer. “Is this your destiny, or your own will” could be referring to how everything that happens to eren was destined to happen however it could also be his own will since his future self is who manipulated the past
I think the Paradis Geography is about the fact that the walls had an established radious and distance between them in the manga, so the size of human territory inside the Three Walls could be calculated. But when it was revealed that AoT worldmap is just our own map but reversed, and that Paradis is supposed to be Madagascar, people realized that there's no way the Three Walls would fit inside the island, so Paradis should be bigger that Madagascar, or the radious and distances of the Walls is wrong.
What did Bert do on the rumbling titans back that was so special? Objectively Armins transformation caused more damage than any of Bert’s so I don’t see how Bert is observed being stronger
The way I saw it he was more special because he appeared right in the middle, towering over everyone else. I agree with you though, I don't agree with everything said in the video I'm just kinda reading what the theories on the list are and explaining them.
@@coolnugget Bert couldn't clause a massive bomb since it could damage the founding head where eren is hidden. However Bert could explode in s3 since reiner was lying defeated and that may kill him too. Colossal can control the explosion when they transform
Theory: Eren was controlled by the Source of all life so that Mikasas descendant would find the tree and the cycle would begin anew. It saw the memories of its future holders and knew that the rumbling had to happen in order to save Mikasa and make her have children. It is also why the Euthanasia plan did not happen.
I have a question that has been going through my head for a while now, who actually "accidentally" opened the door that led to the pigs being free? Is it Ymir? Some random guy? Or possibly Eren?
23:25 i have this theory about the forest. So in the prequel we get to know a mineral that only exits on paradis with powerful properties (helped created the ODM gear), my theory is that the part of land the forest grows on has a higher concentration of that mineral, which acts like a super fertilizer (This is only a theory from my 90 IQ ah ah brain, prove me wrong if you want)
14:46 The Rico Yeaherist theory makes a lot of sense considering she saw all of her friends die protecting Eren to plug wall Rose, Considering that same event was the 1st time Humans triumphed against the Titans, it would definitely radicalize someone to the extremes even if they were against fighting with a Titan to begin with
The Sasha supposed to die is not completely true and is basically a misunderstood event now. Isayama wasn't convinced by his editor, but rather they both agreed that killing her there wasn't the right call and Isayama already had doubts.
9:25 The Calculations is based of a screen shown in season 1, which shows the distance from the wall to one another, which leads to a calculation about the length of the walls, the titans in this walls and the space they take up, but in scale to todays earth, because the wall alone is 80000 kilometres, which is twice around the world, the rumbling would only take up about an area the size of NY State
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I keep seeing comments about this so let me clear something up: Every section with manga spoilers is marked as so in the chapters. I also say before each of them the name of the topic, followed by "manga spoilers". This is your warning to move onto the next topic if you don't want to be spoiled.
Also, let me just confirm that I don't necessarily agree with everything said in this video. I am simply restating the theories and concepts within this iceberg.
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About OST names. Season 1-3 osts were made by Hiroyuki Sawano and he always gives osts weird names, not just in Attack on titans case. Also the rumbling is an intro and they always had regular names, because intros are being made not by sawano. In season 4 composer is Kohta Yamamoto and his doesnt have a habit to give weird names to osts.
Think some expected big red flashing letters on the screen in each instance or somethin'.
why would u literally spoil that eren dies from mikasa right at the beginning of the video, not cool at all bro u ruined it for me
@@acstack5665 Same! I literally was just settling into watching the video and couldn’t believe that was the first thing. I literally bought and read the final manga book to go ahead and see how the story ends smh
I don't know why people are so blown away by the tall trees. Regular titans only grow up to 15 meters max. The average oak tree is anywhere between 15-25 meters tall, and the older ones can easily reach 30-40 meters. And that's just oaks. Species like Sequoias can grow up to 100 meters in size quite regularly.
Sure, the trees in the forest are still anonymously big (or rather thick with really thick branches), and they're especially strange given how many of them there are in such close proximity. But that could easily be chalked up to artistic liberty.
Titan Forest tree theory must be created by desert-dwellers that never touched a forest in their lives
@@indrickboreale7381 or basement dwellers
Anomalously big.
Old growth trees get extremely large, especially conifers. It’s literally just an old growth forest with normal sized trees idk why theres a whole theory about it
We're specifically told during the female titan arc that the trees are 80m tall, and that they are going there because it is the best place to be able to climb up high enough to escape a titans reach, so that's why people think they are especially tall. They were directly told that they were, and that they were special because of it.
Reiner and Bert mention resting in them for the same reason during the clash of the titans arc. Later, It is literally mentioned by Zeke that the forests of giant trees are only found on the island, and are a "natural world wonder" that he would like to show to Gabby and Falco.
So that's why people believe the forests are unique, because it is canon that they are.
There’s also a lot of influence by Norse Mythology. Ymir is the first living being and a Frost Giant. And when Odin kills them it’s splits into the 9 realms. Like how Ymir the founder is split into 9 Titans. Also the Giant Tree Ymir in AoT falls into could be a reference to Yggdrasil the world tree in Norse Myths. Also the Halucigena could be the Niddhogg, a worm like creature that lives at the bottom of the Yggdrasil tree and maintains it. Finally Eren is kinda a parallel to Odin. I don’t know a lot about this one but the one scene when Falco is taking to Eren in the hospital for the first time there is a shot of the shadow of the tree above erens head, and Eren at the time has a bandage covering his eye. Odin is often shown wearing an eye patch and in one myth, hung himself from the world tree to gather more knowledge about death.
this was my exact thoughts the moment i heard the name ymir, when i heard that there was no doubt it was inspired by norse
Idk why so few people bring up the norse connection when talking about AOT, they're all pretty obvious even if you only know about some surface level stuff (Ymir, tree of yggdrasil). Also I'm pretty sure that the Edlians were originally of norse origin judging by what we see in a couple flashbacks
That's what I was thinking
woww that's so interesting. If I hear this I think there's no doubt Isayama took inspiration from Norse mythology. Where else would he get the name Ymir from?
Also,maybe falco here could be a metaphor for huginn/muninn
When eren said that he felt disappointed when he found out there were humans living outside the walls I felt that. Cause if I was living like a bird in a cage thinking it was my whole world, and there were people living outside that world, I would be so angry
This. Eren wasn't disappointed by the existence of other humans because of some genocidal hatred for other people. He was angry because he spent his whole life believing he was reclaiming the world from the titans for humanity. Only to find out that his struggles were basically ignored by the greater world and to an extent caused by it. He desperately wanted freedom only to find out that there will always be people opposing it just for the crime of existing.
@@Capta1nTD beautifully put! Gosh what a master piece this story is
I don't think that is the reason. I think he was disappointed because he was expecting a beautiful and unique world outside the walls and he thought he would be free, to only find the same world he left in the walls. He realized the outside world is just the same and their enemies only changed from titans to humans, That is why he says "If we kill all the humans over there, will we finally be free?".
@@alandmuhamad6593 that's also another really good perspective! I never thought about it in that way
how did he know though? Did he see the branching paths over the sea or something, offcam Azumabitos ship? Surely it wasnt simple theatrics, right?
I think the theory on Erwin is interesting, after rewatching S1 and how he approaches Eren after Bean and Sawney get murdered and asks who's the true enemy here? As if he knows humans are just as evil, I think in some way the basement was to fulfill what he already had strong suspicions on. I don't think he'd be a yeagerist per say but I do think he would support the idea of fighting back against Marley
Its heavily suggested he would lose the will to fight following the shinganshina arc
@@AbdullahAbdur-Rahmanit’s not even a suggestion, he downright refuses to live with his very last action being stopping Levi from saving his life
@@fort809 eeeh no really, that was a dying man reliving his old memories. He didn't intend to knock Levi's hand away
The Attack Titan berserk mode is a stupid theory. The only reason Eren's Titan looks the way it does during the battle with the Female Titan is to show Eren's anger towards the Female Titan the same way Sasha's eyes took the shape of glowing hearts when Krista brought her food in training camp. They animated her that way to show her love for food not because she went into some feeding mode.
Then why does the recent key visual show Eren's titan with blue eyes and fire? Seems like berserk titan to me
I think it looked like that because when titans heal they have steam coming off of their body, I think his healing at that point accelerated so much to the point where he started burning.
You are stupid for that theory
You should read what happened in the manga then. Berserk titan is anime only and a strong evidence for the time loops/aoe theories. As another guy said, they released a poster where eren's bony founding titan has blue eyes and is surrounded by fire like the berserk titian as well.
The berserk mode is not anime only. While Eren was pinned down by Reiner when Shingansina was invaded by Marley, he grabbed his upper jaw as he screams. His titan looks like in berserk mode in that panel.
16:06 levi’s cleaning had a purpose. He had them clean so much with time restrictions bc you never know when you’ll have to up and go at a moments notice, and that exact situation happened in season 3 when they were running from the government
No Levi was obsessed with cleaning because he was obsessed with being perfect in general, this is because he always thought Kenny left him because he was not good enough. Another example of this is Levi's handwriting. It is confirmed somewhere that it's so good it's like a newspaper font
@@aashaypojge3965theres an ova of Levi’s childhood and the people who took him in were insistent in keeping things clean
Or to instil discipline within the new recruits because they are in a military after all.
@@wesleypola8180 What dude nobody took him in he just partnered up with that dude I can't remember the name of. But the cleaning obsession came from Levi
That doesn't mean much. It's literally just a quirk added to Levi and a bit of a "don't meet your heroes," kind of realism.
Cleaning doesn't only involve "packing up," but also you clean the dust etc. If I were to search for an abandoned cabin and see it perfectly clean instead of tons of dust, it would be obvious t me that someone was there very recently. So all the cleaning is kind of pointless in terms of being able to quickly leave or "leave no trace behind."
It also improves his "actually cares under the hood," persona. Despite his obsession with cleaning, he doesn't care about holding the bloody hands of his comrades.
I believe the "Paradis geography" point can refer to the size of Paradis in comparison to its counterpart in Madagascar. The reason this is brought up sometimes, is that if the scale of AoT's map is 1:1 with our world, the width and area of the walls are DRAMATICALLY overestimated
you can tell in the show that the area within the walls is about the size as a small country all to the walls could fit in madagascar
@@jbonemastaflash6852 That is true, but the diameter of the walls have been revealed in the story, and it vastly dwarfs the size of real-world Madagascar, which creates some discussion about the scale of the AoT world.
See, the map literally appeared in one panel and wasnt even discussed, while the walls were extensively explained. I think we obviously take fact of the walls' diameter over the one off barely legible map we saw
@@Pyxyty I mean, I never said I agreed with this idea. I simply brought up my thoughts on what that point might mean
It could also be how the environment on Paradis is nothing like actual madagascar
20:35 Fans: "Erwin would support the rumbing and show no mercy"
Canon-Erwin: Never murdered a person, always tried his hardest to keep casualties & colateral damage low, felt guilty for the deaths of his comrades (who volunteered to be part of the SC), *made Hange his successor who didn't support the rumbling*
It's beautiful how misunderstood this character is.
I totally agree with you !! I just had to read the theories I was given lol
Erwin is just too intelligent to support such a trivial thing as genocide. idk why people actually believe he would
There's also the fact that, unlike Eren, Erwin would have no drive or goal anymore after the basement. It was made pretty clear that finding out about outside the walls was his dream, so I doubt he'd have the will to keep fighting for nothing. Also, the truth of the outside world would probably be brutal to Erwin. All those sacrifices, all those lives he sent for death, only to find out that there's a huge world outside the walls, entire civilizations, and they all want your people dead.
@@joaoassumpcao3347 i actually think that Erwin always understood that the truth about the outside world is gonna be mind-blowing😅 proving his father was right would probably makes him happy in some way. at least, he seemed excited when they found out about the whole titans-are-humans thing. but his guilt and suffering would never leave him, that’s for sure
Though he sacrificed entire districts getting destroyed in season 1, showing no remorse.
Reiner is more obviously suffering from depression in season 4, as we see him contemplating offing himself before hearing Gabis voice (think it was hers, could've been Falco). We also see him not really eating all that well when with his family or with the other cadets (he pays for them, but isn't really seen eating himself).
Also how during the declaration of war he saved Falco then just chilled in there, with Falco giving the line "If he had the will to live" or something like that.
@@IronEbay i thought that was pretty obvious after he was shown shoving a gun down his throat
16:52 For the music part, AOT was inspired a lot by German culture. Jeager is an actual family in Germany and a word that means "hunter". Ackermann is "farmer", Reiner BRAUN (yes that company is German), blond hair everywhere, etc... plus Sawano Wrote a lot of German lyrics from what i've heard (didn't really investigate this) so OSTs like Vogel im Käfig (Bird in a cage) and Bauklötzen( Building Blocks) have German lyrics. Also for XL-TT, this is the OST that plays in the first episode at the appearance of the Colossal Titan.
Additonally, Shiganshina is based off a small german town called Nördlingen (Noerdlingen) which also is surrounded by walls like most medieval towns.
Its just a Sawano quirk. If youve listened to his stuff, you know all his songs have quirky titles. As for why not all AoT songs are like this, its bc theres 2 ppl working on the music for AoT. The other guy, Yamamoto, has few contributions in the earlier seasons and then eventually takes over in later seasons with Sawano only doing a couple songs here and there.
Do it some justice at least, and spell is as "Jäger" or at most "Jaeger" if you're talking about family names.
Plus in general you have the whole ww2/rise of facism parallels, qnd rhe way the eldians are treated on the mainland having obvious parallels too
Nah German
More like germanic-Anglo culture with some little European
Paradis’s geography is probably something explaining how four rivers can go from one point in four directions in the walls. I’m guessing the theory is that the geography was modified when the walls were made.
ooh interesting
I always thought that they were more like canals and the water didnt really flow, thats part of why their boats are powered/guided with that rope system
or that it’s not accurate to earth at all and is loosely based around real geography.
The question that I have about the last tier's elder gods, would WE be those elder gods? We watch these characters fight, struggle and die, all for our enjoyment
If AoT is in fact the creation/daydream of the Eren in the junior high timeline then canonically he’d be the elder god tho you could then expand upon that to say that AoT’s creator is the true elder god and then expand that further to say that god is the true elder god
I wouldn't say I enjoy it
@@Jxvger I would.
@@erenyeager1660 o shit
_"But you know, people actually want to see cruelty."_
~ That one soldier from season 3, standing on Paradis' fourth wall and staring into the camera
The Attack TItan berserk mode was probably Eren pushing his Titan limits and refusing to stop fighting, this would explain the fire around him since titans give off so much heat. He probably just overused his titan till the point that it started to heat up.
It was most likely related to manga ending and Isayama gave them tips about what Eren would do in the end. It was probably related to Eren's unique Titan so the animators added those details for some sort of foreshadowing.
Then Isayama changed his mind and The Rumbling became the new thing, thus all those crazy Eren titan effects are now pointless.
Remember that at the time we had 3 different unique Titans with unique capabilites. Colossal Titan was BIG BOI with steam powers, Armored Titan being... armored... And Female Titan being athletic and has the power of calling titans to eat her, as well as hardening.
At the time Eren's titan had absolutely no unique ability other than being on "humanity's side."
Even at the end the Titan itself doesn't have anything special. Eren even gets the hardening power from some sort of random capsule during Rod Reiss' cave.
Being able to see memories etc. is also something he can't do alone and needs contact with someone who is royal blood. Plus he doesn't even need to be in his titan form to do it.
So I guess Isayama was planning something destructive for Eren's titan but at the end changed his mind and went with the weird memory shit.
@@fortnight5677the “weird memory” power drastically nerfed th founder titan and made it only possible for the user of both the founder and attack titan to freely influence history. AOT would be a very different world if the royalty could influence both the past and present of Eldians. (Would be impossible to steal the founder)
I like that they added Pieck being female while having a male looking titan as I'm pretty sure technically men could be given the female titan depending on its random assignment or inheritance
Fuck all titans have male anatomy, except female Titan offcourse.
@@frustationoverloaded5976 they don't have anatomy, it just happens that when you get rid off all things that define gender they are rather masculine
I can't believe the Cycle is so deep.
I read the ending of the manga last year as Part 2 of Season 4 ended and the entire Cycle idea was my immediate conclusion and I really didn't grasp why people hate the ending so much.
Yeah the cycle part was a good ending imo even though its sad. I think people hate on what eren said. I think what he said was fine too so disagree with the haters
The ending of the manga goes against almost every theme the story previously established. I can't believe anyone would think it's actually good.
@@misadique845 you must have misread literally every theme to come to this conclusion
@@Korijira lmao true.
@@misadique845 Can you elaborate what are the theme your talking about?
The theory about Eren's head becoming The Source of All Living Matter and the young boy in front of the tree sent shivers down my spine. i was eating and i had to stop, pause the video and ponder all my life choices....... because if the thoery is right, everything that happened was for nothing, the best case scenario being guaranteeing a few hundreds of years of peace before everything goes down again. my head is spinning bruh
Few hundred years of peace was the goal of eren, and the never ending cycle of hatred is pretty logical, eren never tried to end the hatred
Well I hope the food was tasty
It was not all for nothing if Eren got to let his Friends and the Paradis Island Experience peace for many years to come before a new war began
The source of all living matter gave Ymir the titan powers due to the circumstance she was in, that doesn't mean that anyone who would come into contact with it would get titan powers
@@hjuy4049true.. the boy was accompanied by a friendly dog and he seemed curious when he found the tree.. meanwhile Ymir had her heart filled with anguish and hatred and was being chased by wild dogs when she found the source. The boy will get new powers but I'm sure they would be completely different from titans and would probably bring good to the world
Theres actually a reasoning behind the strange OST names. Each with a bizarre name are done my Hiroyuki Sawano; and one of his trademarks is his weird names for his songs, it can be seen on other projects hes done such as Xenoblade Chronicles X. He does occasionally name them something normal but the reasoning behind more and more normal OST titles in Season 4 could be due to alot of it being done by Kohta Yamamoto.
You know, the song names in AoT totally made me think about xenoblade. Now it all makes sense!
I think the titan forest is the only physical evidence that remains after each "cycle" of the titans restarts. The tree Ymir fell into could've been one of those trees, the tree that grows from Erens head adds a new tree to the forest , so on and so forth. The fact that it's a full grown forest by the time the events of AoT take place suggests that many cycles have taken place and ended before current Eren's begun
Well that doesn’t really make sense because Eren’s tree is in Shiganshina, not even close to the forest
Also the boy going into Eren’s tree was clearly from a distant future. Civilization was destroyed, but it’s remnants were obvious. But back in Ymir’s time there was clearly no technology or a past civilization. I think the cycle will continue, but Ymir’s cycle was the first one
@@silksongreactions well maybe before ymir there was also a futuristic civilization but because humans do human things like war, the whole world got destroyed to which they had to evolve to ymirs civilization. Like Einstein said ''I'm not sure what weapons the third world war will be fought with, but in the fourth world war they will fight with sticks and stones.'' which obv means we go back to 0
I prefer to think that the circle will not repeat. Yes. We see the kid in front of the tree. But he was not running for his life followed by dogs. He was walking calmly with a dog by his side which makes the scene quite different
@@LucaDe2000 well it doesnt matter if hes in danger or not he likely turned into a titan
This would mean that every time the cycle started and ended happened in a very close proximity to a previous cycle. Sounds quite dumb.
Levi’s cleaning theory is definitely true. My mom grew up in poverty and she turned out to be a clean freak as well because of how dirty her childhood home was
The 'The cycle will never end, no matter what' part made me finally understand what happened in the ending. I was so confused as to why the tree grew so large and what it meant. Having Eren become the new 'source of the titan powers' idea makes sense to me. The fact that the young child also goes inside the tree like Ymir did makes it believable that he could gain the titan powers like she did before and the cycle would start anew.
I also wanted to say how shocked I was that the Video had so little views or likes. The quality was so good that I didn't even notice. I watch a lot of Iceberg or 'Full Story Explained' videos and all of them had many views and likes and seeing your video with a similar quality get so little wondered me. I hope your videos will get the attention they deserve soon!
I hope to see more of these kind of videos from you :)
The source of all living matter only emobies the desire of the user, it doesn't just make titans. Zeke explained that the paraite latched onto ymirs desires, an undying body, connection to others, freedom from pain, strength, etc to reflect her desires in physical form. A different person making contact would reflect their desires, not just turn them into a titan, thats not what the parasite does.
@@lukefox01 So the power of the titans specifically might not cycle, but a person making contact with the source of all living matter and gaining a supernatural ability will?
I think the tree is purely symbolic of the cycle of hatred/violence rather than meaning the parasite will latch onto this person at the end and start a new cycle of superpowered fascism
It was stated, that human technology was close already to making titans obsolete for military purposes, so it's questionable, if titans could even pose a threat to humanity, if they ever returned
Reiner Braun has type 1 diabetes.
I'm pretty sure Eren's berserk titan form was an anime-only thing. It didn't appear in the manga. At the time of the first season, Studio Wit wasn't certain that there would be more seasons so they wanted to end it with a bang, so they made the berserk titan for cool animation stuff.
They pretty sure knew. There is an explicit rumbling scene for 0.3 seconds when Eren was about to eat Annie.
@@curious_banda time stamp? I replayed the scene at 0.25x and couldn't find it
I assumed Paradis Geography is referring to the weird variety of biomes on Paradis considering how small it is. While training they climb a snowy mountain, are in some weird desert area, there’s also deserts to the south of Shiganshina.
It might refer to the fact of Madagascar geography not corresponding to paradis geography
Nah
Paradis island in attack on Titan is way bigger than Madagascar is real life
More equivalent to Texas
season 2 ed has SO MUCH foreshadowing. and the footstep imagery even foreshadows the rumbling
I’m pretty sure the mirror man episode happened before they even joined the scouts. It happened when they were little and Mikasa was running late to meet Eren and Armin at a hot air balloon
No it actually occurs right after eren is eaten in s1. Mikasa is at a loss and is grieving, and retreated within her head to think of them all being happy and alive together. She goes back to when they were kids as a coping mechanism, and creates that story to escape from reality. The mirrored man theory, however, I belive may be false. It could be eren from the future, but I am much more likely to belive that it is the writer, speaking to mikasa as an equal, making her relize that there is nothing she can do and she isn’t in control, and to return to her place in the story and let it play out
The One where it said the attack titan fights for eren will is even more convincing when you realize that in season 1 the attack titan tried punching mikasa and in the end mikasa ended up killing eren.
It's probably just because when Eren first tried to transform, he didn't have control, and did things on a impulses he had before transformation. He rages against Titans first time - kills Titans after transformation. Second time he has argument with Mikasa right before transforming and pretty pissed at her - so his first thought after transforming - to attack Mikasa
eren wanted mikasa to kill him tho so ymir could see it. he punched mikasa cause he couldnt control it. same thing with the spoon
the "Bertolt is the strongest shifter" theory probably comes from a line of dialogue in Season 4. During the flashback to when the warriors first landed on Paradis as kids, Reiner says to Bertolt "Says the guy who was able to control the collosal insantly!". If he was actually able to immediately gain complete control over the collosal titan that would probably make him the most gifted shifter by far.
It is spelled “Bertholdt”
It is spelled “Bertholdt”
@@MetalSlide0 it's spelled beartoronto.
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16:02 As someone in the military, cleaning is a big thing.
In general it’s sort of seen as a discipline kind of thing but some higher ups take it more seriously than others depending on their background. With Levi, I can imagine that yes his background in the underground is way he’s so notoriously focused on it (as well as Levi just being scary to any regular person) but having a cleaning period itself is standard in the military. It’s a pretty cool inclusion for us enlisted folk!
16:00 to me Levi’s obsessive cleaning is trauma related. Not only did he grow up in poverty but he was literally sat next to his dead mother for a week. At the very least, it maybe a subconscious factor that he isn’t aware of
19:58 Glad to see someone finally pointing this out. If people paid just a little more attention to season 1 and some of the OVA's, it was clear that Annie and Armin had a thing. Or at least, there were little things that insinuated they'd be romantically involved in the future. Idk why people keep saying they "came out of nowhere" after the boat scene.
The best theory is the one that says the atack titan not only pass his will to the successors, but controls their actions sometimes. So Eren, Grisha and Kruger has moments were the titan's will take control and they behave totally differently compared to what we are used to or to the character like 10m ago. Has a whole thread about this on some blog, with even some "proof" that the art on manga changes at those moments.
5:00 No, you missed something. The editor cried in the bathroom for 15 minutes until he would.
Really 😭😭😭??
@@coolnugget Yup.
I think it was exaggerated but the editor had expressed his desires.
I think the “Paradis Geography” is referring to the sheer amount of environments present on Paradis, with temperate forests and deserts in an environment where it also snows heavily in winter.
Pretty sure the weird ost names is just Hiroyuki Sawano naming his shit weird, just like everything else he composes.
I like icebergs because I hardly ever know anything past the first couple levels. Love learning new things about the stuff I love
The "Eren doesn’t care about Freedom" is an interesting one that deserves its own video.
In School Castes & junior high manga’s (both of which are stated to be the "true" characters simply in different circumstances) Eren sticks out as a legit mass murderous psychopath. Junior high is supposed to be a kid-friendly show, yet Eren is the *only* guy in the series who keeps yelling about killing all their enemies. His feud with the Colossal titan (one he still wants to kill for) is over a cheeseburger. People think he’s weird because of this.
Keep in mind how "freedom" isn’t a theme for him in these two shows. His only consistent theme is the desire for violence.
Also some of his opinions regarding freedom are antithetical to the concept. "If someone tries to steal my freedom, I won’t hesitate to steal theirs". That sounds like the exact revenge bullshit that kept Eldia/Marley conflict going for 2000 years.
A true freedom fighter will treasure that fundamental right so much that they would *never* submit others to the same despair.
What this says about Eren is that he doesn’t actually know what freedom is.
Yeah that show shows that eren was pretty bored with his life and fighting freedom would have some meaning to his life. Just like light in deathnote
Junior just parodies Eren's desire to fight titans. Eren respects people who fight for their desire to do what they want, or "freedom", that doesnt mean he wont oppose them when interests conflict
Starting from “keep in mind…” till the end of your comment, I wonder if this logic of Eren’s is what perpetuates the CYCLE that eren lives through (the ending of the manga)
@@Sernival you’ll soon learn that anything can be convincing if worded correctly.
He respects people fighting for their freedom the same way Khabib respects someone for fighting.
Junior is more than a parody. Isayama is very deliberate about his characterisations
The problem is the contemporary liberal definition of freedom is incoherent. It's only an ostensible justification and a hijacking of a word with long held positive connotations. The classical definition would be a greater capacity to do the good. A homeless drug addict would be less free than someone who regulates their behavior to avoid drugs. The modern definition is just hedonism with whatever mores the current dispensation holds.
I think the geography bit is discussing how the geography is represented in different media. The anime has it mostly be fields and then a big desert before the coast, the OVAs imply there is a canyon/mountain area inside the walls, which wouldn’t make sense inside of the walls since Armin mentions that mountains are in the book about the world outside of the wall, but doesn’t know what a mountain is, also the trees on the island seem to be ridiculously big, not to mention the ice burst stone material and crystal caverns from season 3.
Something I'm surprised no one's mentioned (Or at least if someone has I haven't seen it), Early in season 1 when the Scouts try to kill Eren, Mikasa and Armin with canons and Eren stops it using his titan ability, he for whatever reason makes a flower grow underneath them. Armin even comments on it not being there a moment ago, so do titans have some kinda plant growth ability?
The scouts didn't try to kill those 3 it was the Garrison Regiment i believe.
I think it was a way to make us understand the inside of the titan. It was so big, and formidable, while inside it, mikasa and armin were being protected, and the flower didn't grow there but rather it survived. In a place of extreme heat and pressure.
it was a mistranslation
To counterpoint the "The cicle will never end" theory, please have in mind the situations of Ymir and the boy.
Ymir was almost dead, hunted and followed by dogs, that and her will to be alive is what made the titans exist in the first place.
However, see the boy, the boy is calm even when exploring remains of a death civilization, he is curious and has a dog by HIS SIDE.
The boy willingly enters the tree by curiosity not unlike armin's, he still has the child-like wonder that Ymir couldn't have, that's why the cycle won't repeat.
A power might appear, however the circumstances that led into the creation of the titans are not longer there, something new will appear and not necessarily a bad thing.
I think that's an interpretation that not a lot of people in the AoT fandom has come to realize and i find that it is a shame...the history was always about "The world is a cruel place, but there's beauty in it" and i think this interpretation makes the message consistent and stuff.
Yeah, long text lol
damn i never thought of that
considering the hallucegenia or whatever the worm thing is called can create titans by exposing its own body steam, i seriously doubt what you said is anything but your own head cannon. Im pretty sure titans will always be a curse on humanity in the AOT world
Titan Curse existed bcuz Paths existed. Paths existed as a result of Ymir's Desire for Connection even after death. Titan Curse was lifted only bcuz Ymir let go of these connections, inspired by Mikasa. So, unless the kid has the same desire for connection, no Titan Curse will appear again.
Before you reply, know that the paths exist after Ymir's Death and not when she fused with hallucigenia and got founding Titan powers. Hence, Titan shifters live only 13 years after transformation as Ymir died at age 13. Also Levi and Mikasa could be connected through paths even if they were immune to Founding Titan Powers.
I can speak a bit on the OST naming scheme, I made a paper on Hiroyuki Sawano. The reason most of his soundtracks have cryptic language and Unicode symbols is to mitigate the effect the title has on the listener. Despite his intent, some of these tracks can be deciphered to unveil more context for the song, like TWO-lives being “TheWeightOfLives.”
Sawano wasn’t called back for S4, that’s why they’re basic now.
I have a theory that wasn't on here. I believe that Dina was the one to give the command to have her killed, meaning her death was technically suicide by Titan. Since time works differently in the Paths, it's entirely possible that she and Eren met and spoke, and that she told Ymir to obey him long enough for him to escape with Mikasa. Since Ymir was only going to obey Zeke at first, and not Eren, it makes sense that it would have been the same back with the Smiling Titan. She would only obey the Royal Family.
Plausible, but you need to remember that time works weird in the paths. It's very much possible that future Eren controlled the titans to attack her. But there's also the fact that titans who aren't titan shifters can't seem to be able to influence the paths, since they are only connected via an activated hallucigenia, which they have no control over.
I believe only those who can maintain their humanity (titanshifters) can influence the paths in any way. And thus, when Eren touched Dina, Dina couldn't access the founding titan, but the founding titan activated anyways, thus Eren was in full control.
Which probably explains why Eren was afraid the government was gonna transform Historia into a pure titan so he can access the founding.
Yes future Eren would be invisible to child Eren, but we aren’t necessarily looking through Eren’s perspective. And the fit do be the same tho
There's a scene when Paths-Zeke is dragging Paths-Eren through Grisha's memories; Grisha is hugging baby Eren, with Paths-Zeke and Paths-Eren standing behind Grisha observing. Baby Eren is looking straight at Paths-Zeke and Paths-Eren with a kind of wonderous look on his face. I really do feel that, somehow, Baby Eren was seeing Paths-Zeke and Paths Eren.
Erens “dream” where Mikasa says “see you later…Eren” isn’t the future. It’s Eren rembering a different timeline where Mikasa confesses her love for him when Eren asks her “what am I to you?” After she says her feeling for him, he decides to not do the rumbling and they then run away into the mountains where Eren and Mikasa live together for 4 years until Erens dies from the Curse of Ymir. Mikasa never killed him. Before he dies, he tells her to forget about him and to move on. So Mikasa says “see you later” because she doesn’t want Eren to see that she is distraught and very sad that he is about to die.
Thank god i never watched this video. Mf said mikasa kills eren in the first 30 seconds lol
AOE - This was confirmed by Isayama right before The Final Chapters special released. He didn't like the ending himself and stated that the Anime is the Definitive version of the story of AoT.
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Best Iceburg of all that i’ve seen. Good job. From one struggling AOTuber to another I will be tuning in
Also per Rome, Isayama actually said he took a lot of inspiration from Roman history. To me this seems like a comparison to the late Roman Empire or the Ostrogoth empire. Eldians would be the Romans, and Mareleyans would be the Ostrogoths (descendants of Germanic tribes) who took over the western empire briefly after 800 years of invasion, oppression, and intermingling.
Actually episode 4x21 looks like marleyans are heavily inspired by romans/greeks while eldians are inspired by german tribes
@@Sendo664 imo he took designs of Rome and Germanics and just switched histories
huh? you mean the other way around, right?
@@DarkCreepyFairy I think it implies that the history of the AoT world would have been the same as real life, but the apparition of the first titan and a barbarian tribe having control over it changed history and made the mentioned barbarian tribe the powerhouse instead of the romans.
isnt it obvious that marley is ww1/2 germany and eldians are the jews?
Some corrections/analysis after 1 year of this video being uploaded
3:04 This is just because east asian languages L and R sound very similar and are used interchangeably then when trasnlated into an english language the sound is more distinct
3:46 His name is oliver and it wasnt to make females more prevalent in the warrior candidates, it was actually changed due to Isayama thinking an older male within the warrior candidates wouldn't make sense since then why would marley send children instead of him. Also, all the warrior candidates are young children, so he would stand out.
4:10 Corridor Digital TH-cam channel actually made a video about this and Paradis Island along with the rest of the world although looks like an exact mirror of ours its actually a whole lot bigger. Paradis Island alone is bigger then Texas. Also the coloring for the different territories dont seem to be accurate
5:30 Hizuru at least in the anime is depicted to be below Paradis Island so the east coast of the flipped africa
6:17 Pretty sure this is confirmed. If you're questioning the time not matching up due to the curse of ymir this is probably before he got the beast titan
9:12 Again TH-cam channel Corridor Digital actually counted this too and it was 540000 when they calculated it pretty sure. They also use CGI to visualize the rumbling better, so check them out!
11:49 Im sure its just a little anime exclusive just to represent Erens (literal) steaming rage and regenerating so fast while still in a titan form his vains are literally on fire. It doesnt go much deeper then that probably. Isayama probably added it to make the fight look more appealing.
14:22 This was just a test run so Isayama could find a publisher after getting rejected by shonen jump. Im sure some of it is relevant but it shouldnt be taken so seriously in contrast to the show
16:52 Isayama probably wanted to do more with the sound tracks with cryptic messages and what not but due to the various artists it was probably difficult to coordinate and just gave up on it.
18:11 This is because Eren used the paths to tell them their last messages and the first scene where Eren crying is a contrast to Mikasa at the Cabin and crying. Whether this is to show Eren went back in different times and told them physically and then erased their memories or he only used the paths is up to interpretation. But the significance of Eren waking up from a "Long Dream" and crying could be a video on its own.
20:35 No he wouldn't. End of discussion.
21:36 The sad reality is that their is no god in the aot verse. It is the source of hope that there is a higher power or god mentioned by Armin only to discover the harsh reality is its all a chain reaction from the hallucigenia. Also the represents to how Eren and Armin are disappointed how the world beyond the walls actually are.
22:00 up to interpretation what happens to the boy, but it is confirmed that the message of "the cycle will never end" was the main objective for the ending. Eren also sure that war would continue even without titans but eren didnt account for another ymir situation happening because he couldn't see the future beyond his death. Since the boy at the end credits is not a subject of ymir eren cant see into his memories. Instead the boy who lets just call John l, once John enters the tree and connects with the new source of all living matter which was passed down to embody erens head, John would start a new founding arc called Subjects of John. And the Titans probably only happened due to it the hallucigenia connecting to ymirs spine. Id imagine John could connect to it differently and create a whole nother different type of power.
the island is nowhere near the size of the us… bro what lol
@DannyConcepts correction: bigger then Texas not the us sorry bout that
21:54 we only really discovered the north and South Pole in the 20th century. Before we had no idea how the poles looked like, so the map is probably historically accurate (for attack on titan)
Watching this after the anime finished up is pretty awesome. Finally get to watch some AoT content without fear of spoilers. Good work!!
Also, can't remember where I heard this but it's an explanation for Eren's berserk form.
Basically, at the point in time when the first season came out, they ratings weren't expected to be amazing and a second season wasn't really a consideration. Someone decided and convinced the animators to go all out with the final battle to drive hype (in hopes of a second season) and to finalize the series if it ended there. A lot of anime get their single series and it ends on a dumb note or place. This theory states he has a berserk mode just to make the end be a bigger climax and spectacle if it ended right there.
12:16 I think the most plausible reason for berserker mode was that it would look really cool at the end of a season & that they didn't know when or if they would get to do more of this series later.
Hallucigenia when being discovered was once believed to walk on the spikes on it's back (Upside-down), Our modern understanding now shows that is not true and walks on the tentacles instead (Right-side up), but it does mirror the fact that the world of AOT is upside down.
I honestly think AoE isn't completely out of the question, for Isayama has stated the anime is the most canon version of Attack On Titan, since when Isayama didn't like something in the manga he would change details in the anime as he worked with the animation studios. But changing something as the drastic as the ending of manga does seem unbelievable.
Its not unbelievable. God you people really don't know shit about the evidence like its all our there yet you mfs blatantly disregard Isayama's inspirations, hints, etc. AoE is coming and not because oH iSaYAmA rUshEd tHe mAngA eNdinG. He planned it to end that way because its a build up to the anime ending. The manga is the previous timeline. Anime is the final timeline.
I’m very happy with the ending we got
The geography reference involves probably 2 things:
The first is the forests of giant trees that you already covered.
The other is the iceburst stone, which is also found only on the island. That is what people think that was the "natural resources" that Marley aimed to get from Paradis. (We later learn that Marley was really acting on an agreement between Fritz and the Warhammer titan at the time to crush Paradis after 100 years).
Huh? Agreement with the warhammer Titan to crush the island after 100 years? What show have you been watching, all they say is that the Tyburs have been watching Paradis’ actions. They even make a point of saying the warhammer has never been off of home soil. Marley obviously knows less than the Tyburs because if they knew the king of the walls wouldn’t activate the rumbling, they’d have no reason not to invade the island
@@juliomenendez9458 What did you think the Tyburs were watching Paradis for? To find out if their ship would sail?
Did you pay attention at all during Willy's production? Where he explains that the threat to the Continent with the wall titans was just a bluff to buy 100 years of peace? And how Fritz said if they came after then, he would do nothing to retaliate? Were you not paying attention when the whole crowd and even Gabi gasped at the fact that the propaganda up until now had been a lie? That it was Fritz himself who decided to end the violence and retreat behind the walls? Miss when Willy said his family had been carrying the secret that the King would not retaliate for all that time with them and he was finally going to tell the truth?
Remember how Uri under the will of Fritz said it was his wish to create a Paradis before the world was ruined? Did you not understand what Frieda meant when she told Grisha she would do nothing and that this was their judgement day finally come as RBA destroyed the walls, which was about 100 years after Fritz retreated?
What have you been watching?
@@wickywickyjoka So basically we meant the same thing, you just worded your response horribly, gotcha. Don’t know why you wrote so much after explaining the scene, when I’m literally the one to bring it up. Willy only told the world about the lie after Eren takes control of the founding Titan, which would effectively prevent negotiation with the rest of the world and lead to the rumbling
@@juliomenendez9458 No we didn't mean the same thing. That is clear.
"All they said was they were watching the island" is saying, "You can't tell that from this one piece of information." The entirety of your original reply was calling into question what I said, not presenting any idea of your own.
I can assure you that I never meant to call myself out for misinformation.
Sorry, it takes a long comment to type everything when you have more than one example to present. You said that "all they said was," and I had to list all the other things "they" said, because what you said was,in fact, not all "they" said.
Also, I can tell you still have no clue because you're still going off about Willy telling the truth now, which is not important to this particular conversation as we're talking about why RBA was sent 9 years before this even happened.
@@wickywickyjoka Willy told Marley & RBA the truth about Paradis' threat 9 years ago (only confirmed in the Manga). He did not however do this because of some agreement. He did this because Marley was about to lose an arms race against the rest of the world, and needed the founder and the resources to stay on top.
I'm pretty sure that Marley is WW2 Germany rather than the Roman Empire. You know. Just a hunch.
If I had to guess the geography at 6:10 is reffering to how MASSIVE the walls actually are, which some have visualized (and it's way bigger then Madagascar)
I guess a thing to note on "paradise geography" is that the territory inside the wall is supposedly the size of France, but that paradise is Madagascar. Now, this doesn't really make any sense since Madagascar is only slight, bigger than France in surface area and the walls being 3 near perfect circles would make it physically impossible for it to fit inside of Madagascar without being partially in the sea.
I'm personally not a fan of the world map of AOT being earth but upside down. It's either not very well thought out by Isayama or a simple time saver.
In reality there's no real reason that North should be "up" on a map, besides Eurocentrism in early world maps.
If Marley, clearly the world's strongest power, had it's center of being in Africa/somewhere South, like how it seems, it's not unreasonable that world maps would have South as up.
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Yeah. I make maps for a living, I knew that. And it had nothing to do with my argument.
Also, Paradise and Marley clearly have a temperate Europeanen climate. Very different from the tropical climate Madagascar should be having. So I'm pretty sure that would mean the climate of each continent has shifted southward (or northward in AOT's case) so the enterity of Europe and the Asian should be frozen over.
I guess it was just a time saver for the map. Because it makes no sense in any other way. The Rumbling stomping 80% of the world in 3 days? Hell no
@@helnkel3814 But Paradis being in the north makes sense of how temperate it is and why everyone looks northern European
Sorry but Eren never cared about freedom might possibly be one of the stupidest theories I've everheard
Fr!! My favorite example is the credits song for s4 pt2 “akuma no ko.” The OFFICIAL (which proves it’s canon and intentional) anime mv for the song explains so much about Eren’s mindset, especially with the way the lyrics and clips are paired. Before watching it I was struggling a bit to understand but that mv cleared up so much for me.
Link here: th-cam.com/video/WPl10ZrhCtk/w-d-xo.html
Eren only ever cared about the world and avenging his dead mother. At least I think so
@@S_whoelse no there’s so much more to it than that.
Unfortunately with a lot of these theories they disregard the fact that characters can have multiple motivations and reasonings.
@@S_whoelse he killed her 💀
I love the Season 2 ending beacuse it literally shows you Ymir's story
Her getting offered by the devil according to the marlians
Her becoming a titan
King fritz feeding Ymir to her children
The great titan war
People warshipping other Ymir Jaw titan Ymir
The rumbling
People escaping
Showing Ymir as a god according to Eldians
Interesting fact about Eren's beserk mode, it's used in AOT 2 when controlling titan shifters as a sort of "super move."
17:48 one of my favorite theories , it just adds so much depth and ngl makes me like s4 eren a little more likable, not in a weird way i just cant explain it
I think its only partially true since in the canon universe eren did it to save people. I'd want a apocalypse too tho shit would be lit fr
@@Jxvger yeah but like for example the aoe eren, the whole point of eren wanting freedom is that his friends live long and happy lives like he said in ep 69 or ch 130, but then ends up killing his friends he cares abt sm in the anr. also dont hype yourself up sm for the apocalypse, folk like us are bound to die first, main character syndrome asses
@@Jxvger You’re confusing Eren caring about some humans with his motive to kill the rest. The rumbling was never necessary for him to have a good life, and this is obvious since he willingly orchestrated his mother’s death.
@@saadqazi3833 it was tho. He has memories of his own future. He knows what happened if he tried alternative routes, you dont. Bertholdt would've gotten eaten and changed the time line if erens mom lived.
@@Jxvger He has memories only until the last Attack Titan, so none about the future and what really matters. Also, with this episode it should be clear what his intentions really are
4:39 During the first episodes and chapters credits from the manga and anime Ymir was called as "Freckles" only. There was people that even thought that Ymir was a dude
15:36
The mirror man doesn't happen after Eren is eaten but not yet known as a titan, it WAY after that, not far the end, in S3 !
14:52 she actually randomly appears for one scene in s3 part 2, thats the last time we saw her in the anime I believe
Since in the final episode of the anime, they colored the yeagerists hair a different color so it's probably not her
“I’ll be letting you know when there’s manga spoilers”
40 seconds in- “it’s the panel where she kills him”
Me-😟
Shskdjdjdj fr 😭😭
Luckily I already saw that spoiler before but like wow ok then, just yeet that info around ig 😭
That’s exactly what just happened to me😭
To be fair he said “Eren’s dream. Manga spoilers.” at the start of that part, several sentences and like 15 seconds before saying Mikasa kills him, it’s even written there at the timer and name of the part
8:52 In chapter 122 of the manga, which tells the story of Ymir Fritz, you can see the Ancient Eldians and Ancient Marleyans in their own attire. Ancient Marleyans dressed like Romans, while Ancient Eldians resembled Germanic tribes in appearance. This explains why all Eldians are whites with a German name. It also confirms the theory that the Marleyans were actually Romans. If you think like this, it would not be absurd to see the Mid-East Alliance as the Ottomans.
Marley also has some german inspiration and possibly russian since they are fighting the ottomans in a ww1 type war.
Marley seems to be a mash together of certain european countries
The Eren being in the past at the beginning actually makes sense if you think of the moment as being from future Eren’s point of view. He also told Armin that he changed several things in the past to try to affect the outcome of the future.
i think it's pretty believable since the series is never played out as "from eren's perspective" so whether he would be visible to the characters is irrelevant.
15:49 Actually the mirror man is Ymir trying to communicate with Mikasa
21:44 "_____ is fuel for Elder gods" is actually a meme embedded into Iceberg charts to mess with people reviewing them. If you glance at certain other popular charts you will find something related being feul for elder gods.
I was one of those ppl who dislike the ending but as rereading and realy analyzing it, everything makes sense. Eren did what he did is in character for him and he has always been like that. I now love the ending but left a bitter taste in my mouth. Isayama is a damn good writer. I usually separate the japanese storytelling to the western one mainly because of culture differences but i put Isayama with one of my fav author Ursula K. Le Guin. I love grey story and characters.
14:08 i think the best foreshadowing is the fact that Armin gets cold and always has max heat in his house (s3 ep17)
Great iceberg but you totally got Eren‘s intentions wrong… Eren didn’t slaughter because he wanted it or liked it. He wanted to protect his friends (Mikasa, Armin, Jean etc) and thought this was his only way to do so. He never cared for the peace of Eldia. His plan was to become the ultimate villain JUST for Mikasa to stop him (as he already told them, “try to stop me“, he meant it). Because of this he foresaw that not only the Titan powers would probably disappear because of Ymir but also that the world would see the team as the heroes who saved them from Eren or at least not as a threat anymore. That is also why the last chapter wasn’t ooc at all. Eren canonically manipulated the past just for this to happen. He even took influence on Armin becoming the colossal Titan so that he could later enter the coordinate to convince Zeke to stop the rumbling. He wanted to be stopped, he did it for them. Eren was not „always fascinated by the idea of killing everything“, this is simply a severe character misinterpretation. I just wanted to clarify because you mentioned this multiple times. This is also why the anr „fan“ manga is complete bullshit written by mass murder fetishists. As Hanji correctly said: mass slaughter is wrong.
Finally someone who gets it! He wanted to end the Titan curse in a way that would make the people close to him ( and therefor the whole elaina race) look good to create peace! He didn’t want to die, he says it in the manga
Regarding anr, I 100% agree. I'm not against aoe, or against an ending that Eren completes the rumbling. But the whole "genocide happens and islanders live happy!" is just a slap on the message of the show. A series that says, over and over again, that war is inevitable, that humans will find ways to kill each other, that there are no good sides, and a story that showed explicitly that Marley has a damn good reason to hate Eldians, leaving no ambiguity as to how fearsome Eldia was. But these guys look at this and think "yeah, you know what would be a good ending? something that says that actually there is one good side and that the way to end wars is just to exterminate your enemy". I mean, were these people watching/reading the right story? It's insane.
He has a lot of reasons, but yeah protecting his friends definitely is a factor
Ok so let me explain the “dream like ending” theory at 18:10
In the original manga, right before the rumbling happened. There was some odd plot holes. The only one I can remember off the top of my head was piek having her gun on her back again when she had just pretended to be dead and it was established before it took 15 minutes to put her gear on. So when the manga came out. We theorized that entire chapter was a dream
I like the cycle continuing theory, I think there could be another aot anime/manga where the cycle is hoping to be broken by eren taking the place of Ymir and thus justifying even more what he did. we could also learn of previous ymirs, this cycle theory reminds me of Hinduism and reincarnation theories.
it really needs too, because those last scenes left more loose ends than before
@@diasluahno it didn’t. Everything in season 4 was purely symbolic. The little kid walking into the tree to tragically repeat the cycle isn’t meant to be taken literally, it’s meant to be a symbol for human nature as a whole. Eren wasn’t inherently evil but he symbolizes the unguided and hurt humans who also help perpetuate the suffering of the human condition.
Berserk mode was not referring to the attack titan but to Levi and Mikasa. The Ackerman's are known for having strength - almost as a titan, without needing to transform. Berserk mode is specifically mentioning times where the two have extreme strength in a moment, like when Mikasa's parents were killed and when Levi fought Annie's titan; besides those two moments there are many more examples of the Ackerman's abilities to exceed their strength and go "berserk".
I'm so fucking sad rn, I just unintentionally watched a spoiler
Lil theory, it shows the world map and it’s only Africa, and some parts of Asia and Europe, I think that’s the entire world but scaled up to normal earth size, it explains why paradis is so large
I understand this video is old, but I just had to step in on the history stuff so it doesn’t get glossed over since it’s finally something I’m knowledgeable of lol. So Marley is clearly Germany or perhaps Western Europe in general roughly around WW1. There is nothing about the Roman Empire that strikes me as Marleyan at all, other than that they are highly militaristic, and expansionists. However the same could absolutely be said about Western Europe in the late 1800’s-1930 (or so). This lines up with the mid east alliance being the Ottoman Empire, as they were a similar yet notably farther behind nation around WW1 to the other European nations. As well as just the fact that the Ottoman Empire existed at the same time that Germany (using a placeholder nation but again could be really any Western European country at the time). So in short marley is imperial Germany, not the Roman Empire, but the mid east alliance is definitely inspired by the ottomans
Coderoin being made of morphine always cracked me up. Like, you made drugs out of drugs, congrats. Putting that chemistry degree to good use. Reminds me of the megaphone in Dave the Barbarian.
In regard to the future Eren theory, most believe that he's invisible to everyone but the viewer. Which would make much more sense to me, and frankly I do believe this theory
Remind me to come back to this in a week or so. I just started watching AoT a couple days ago and its awesome.
So, howd you like it?
@@liad0x Let’s just say I can’t give it 10/10 because that would mean nothing else can be 10/10. So I have to put it in it’s own tier at 11/10
@@giygas9305 i feel you. To me its a special 12/10 because it showed me new sides within me and i grew up with it..
@@liad0x Nice. I don’t think I would have been able to watch the show through the years without getting lots of spoilers. It’s the 4th anime I watched, I’ve only been watching anime since July so about 8 months. I used to be a hater but now I love it lol.
"I'm not gonna spoil anything from the manga" proceeds to say mikasa kills eren the very next sentence.
Bro WTF
I said I would warn when I did, which I did.
I noticed that the lyrics for the attack on titan OST also reference Season 4. “Is that the creator, or the destroyer” could reference Eren and Ymir, with one being the creator of the titans and the other the destroyer. “Is this your destiny, or your own will” could be referring to how everything that happens to eren was destined to happen however it could also be his own will since his future self is who manipulated the past
6:16 if Paradise is Madagascar, it should have different climate, fauna and geography
I think the Paradis Geography is about the fact that the walls had an established radious and distance between them in the manga, so the size of human territory inside the Three Walls could be calculated. But when it was revealed that AoT worldmap is just our own map but reversed, and that Paradis is supposed to be Madagascar, people realized that there's no way the Three Walls would fit inside the island, so Paradis should be bigger that Madagascar, or the radious and distances of the Walls is wrong.
What did Bert do on the rumbling titans back that was so special? Objectively Armins transformation caused more damage than any of Bert’s so I don’t see how Bert is observed being stronger
The way I saw it he was more special because he appeared right in the middle, towering over everyone else. I agree with you though, I don't agree with everything said in the video I'm just kinda reading what the theories on the list are and explaining them.
@@coolnugget Bert couldn't clause a massive bomb since it could damage the founding head where eren is hidden. However Bert could explode in s3 since reiner was lying defeated and that may kill him too. Colossal can control the explosion when they transform
@@amihar_nohara3183witch armin clearly can't do season 4 part 2 he was useless
Theory: Eren was controlled by the Source of all life so that Mikasas descendant would find the tree and the cycle would begin anew. It saw the memories of its future holders and knew that the rumbling had to happen in order to save Mikasa and make her have children. It is also why the Euthanasia plan did not happen.
finally, someone who also likes shinsei kamattechan's music
About time you two started showing yourselves.
I have literally never met another Shinsei Kamattechan fan. I was one of their top listeners last year!
@@coolnugget i was top 0.001% 💀
Woah 😭😭 I forgot what I was but it was something around that
@@coolnugget what is your fav song btw? mine is either yozora no mushi to dokomademo or seimari, i love them both
Attack on titan is one of the, if not the MOST lore-packed shonen anime of all time
I have a question that has been going through my head for a while now, who actually "accidentally" opened the door that led to the pigs being free? Is it Ymir? Some random guy? Or possibly Eren?
if i recall correctly there is a panel in the manga that pretty clearly shows Ymir left the door open
It was Ymir, and based on another theory, the pig that escaped was actually a parallel to Eren and his freedom.
22:40 - No. HATRED and VIOLENCE wouldn't be extinguisged. Not Titans... Damn...
0:35 reiner’s weight loss💀
Paradis geography could refer to the fact that the wall sizes don't fit in our world's Madagascar, and the island would have to be much, much bigger
23:25 i have this theory about the forest. So in the prequel we get to know a mineral that only exits on paradis with powerful properties (helped created the ODM gear), my theory is that the part of land the forest grows on has a higher concentration of that mineral, which acts like a super fertilizer
(This is only a theory from my 90 IQ ah ah brain, prove me wrong if you want)
"Armin is our greatest weapon" turns into a colossal titan
WE NEED A JOJOS PARTS 1-4 ICEBURGGGGG
14:46 The Rico Yeaherist theory makes a lot of sense considering she saw all of her friends die protecting Eren to plug wall Rose, Considering that same event was the 1st time Humans triumphed against the Titans, it would definitely radicalize someone to the extremes even if they were against fighting with a Titan to begin with
The Sasha supposed to die is not completely true and is basically a misunderstood event now. Isayama wasn't convinced by his editor, but rather they both agreed that killing her there wasn't the right call and Isayama already had doubts.
9:25 The Calculations is based of a screen shown in season 1, which shows the distance from the wall to one another, which leads to a calculation about the length of the walls, the titans in this walls and the space they take up, but in scale to todays earth, because the wall alone is 80000 kilometres, which is twice around the world, the rumbling would only take up about an area the size of NY State
Great iceberg on AOT
Thanks !!
Worst* who spoils the ending in the first minute of the video with the most half assed spoiler alert ever