White woman feminist supremacy gave us the Woman King which was a flop but it was a harbinger of things to come. Now they gave us Black Pantherette 2, next is Bladea and Spawnisha.
They used Chadwick's death to make an excuse to push this agenda. They were going to do this anyway Boseman's death just gave them an excuse. Remember, before he died, they were talking about replacing him with Shuri. And he didn't even have 2 movies, but they were talking about replacing him.
The positive Black male image is being eliminated. Even the McDonald's Black Panther Happy Meal toys only have one Black male figurine, M'Baku. Where did all the men go?
Let’s see coming out from MCU/marvel relatively soon we have: Captain America: New World Order Blade Armor Wars Wonder Man All will feature strong heterosexual black male lead characters. So far we’ve had: Black Panther Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse Blade (Snipes) Luke Cage Falcon and the Winter Soldier What exactly have black women gotten besides Wakanda Forever?
@@SmartDave60 Its ironicaly racist to not give Falcon his own solo movie and instead have him have to change into Captain America Same goes for black Wonder Man instead of using an established black character thats already in the comicbooks Its like they are not liking characters that was already black in the comics, Blade and Black Panther are minor exceptions
@@rikardandersson5582 we’re not talking about whether the roles are racist or not we’re talking about positive black heterosexual male roles in MCU/marvel versus what blank women have gotten. And you skipped right over Miles, Luke and Rhodey.
I'm sure there will be black men who will support Wakanda Forever, but I won't be one. Chadwick Boseman was a fantastic actor, but he was not T'Challa. Black Panther is a nearly 60 year old character, the first black superhero. I've been reading Black Panther comics for 30 years, 99.5% of those stories have centered on T'Challa. I will not pay to see T'Challa killed on firm and won't be taking my children to see it either.
His Legacy is bigger than black panther He didn't create black panther That character was here years before he was born and years before he played them but this is why black men are looked at as soft so many black men in Hollywood who could have done a good job playing black panther but u soft black males rather give it to a woman than to see another black man play the role let that been Robert Downey Jr Chris Evans iron man or captain American they would have recast them without a doubt but I'm 38 years old a lot of u guys are new to black panther since 2017.
Yeah but I think the there goal was to eventually go female black panther marvel really pushing women hero even though they know those movies or shows will most likely flop the best series they had not to long ago was captain america and winter soldier series
as of today marvel has on screen or coming to screen sam Wilson as Captain America, war machine, blade, Luke cage, samuals Jackson as Nick fury in secret war, patriot, Hiemdal, m baku, Phastos, wonder man,. Black female heroes have so far been Monica Rambue and now possibly a female black panther. So what the hell is y'all talking about. Black female representation is seriously lacking. Do black men hate black women so much, do you hate your mother's, sisters, daughters so much that you want them to continue to be invisible in this medium? It seems lately the only group black men have the strength to fight is black women. You won't get ahead by shoving black women down. All that will happen is eventually you will lose black women's support.
@@clementmckenzie7041 Only group getting SHOVED DOWN are men. Being made to look stupid to make medicare female characters look better doesn't raise anyone up. It's the embodiment of envy itself. Example being I'm not improving my front lawn to look better anyone else's I'm poisoning everybody else's grass in whole neighborhood so by default my lawn is better
@@oculus1857 sounds like what black men on this thread are doing. Black women surpassed black men in income, education, and entrepreneurship a generation ago. Instead of stepping up the black male game black men like you have decided to tear down black women. No other minority group is as well represented in marvel as black men, not Asians, Latinos, women and damn sure not black women. There are only three black female superheroes in marvel movies, 3 Asian, 2 Latino, 1Desi and 13 black men if anything black men are over represented. But because black women are the only group black men seem willing to fight, you want to go after the pathetic representation black women have in the medium. It's disgusting. Non of you had a damn thing to say when there were no black women in the MCU. You all are full of hate for your own and that is some sick uncle ruckus shit y'all on. No future on it.
They gonna make Tchalla the deadbeat dad! I'm hearing that Nakea is pregnant in this one Also mad LGBT push to counter the African traditional distaste for LGBT
@@ruckusbeblack Thanks, bruh. The Black Panther is T'Challa and his father T'Chaka before him... As I said before: I bought BP comics in the 70s... Shane, who I believe I actually Sha-né, had NO argument as to why it's NOT fem power bs. Peace 😄
Nerds are mostly male's, and males will support as much as they supported Wonder Woman and Captain Marvel. I've already chosen to give this a miss because I don't support the decision to kill off T'challa, and I don't see myself enjoying the film.
@@serrahighsfinest why kill of a iconic hero, they should have waited and recasted for an appropriate successor.. but that wasn't in their pro feminist agenda.
Black women don’t need men unless his name Joe Biden. hilarious. So glad that somebody said what we are all thinking. Feels like people get fearful to saying things like this.
as of today marvel has on screen or coming to screen sam Wilson as Captain America, war machine, blade, Luke cage, samuals Jackson as Nick fury in secret war, patriot, Hiemdal, m baku, Phastos, wonder man,. Black female heroes have so far been Monica Rambue and now possibly iron heart and a female black panther. So what the hell is y'all talking about. Black female representation is seriously lacking. Do black men hate black women so much, do you hate your mother's, sisters, daughters so much that you want them to continue to be invisible in this medium? It seems lately the only group black men have the strength to fight is black women. You won't get ahead by shoving black women down. All that will happen is eventually you will lose black women's support.
They can't stop until it destroys society. This is not a pendulum effect. It's a hidden agenda. They are only one company of the many who are on this bandwagon. Look at who owns the companies. It's the same folks every time.
@@brandish4952 Disney is a multinational conglomerate, no one owns it, it's share holders own bits of it. The Disney family are white christians, Walt Disney himself was antisemitic, and bigoted, he didn't believe that black people were equal to white people. Luckily, his children did not share his views. yes their is an agenda, gay people and women share it and their organizations work every day to promote it. The agenda is, equality for all. So that' everyone regardless of race creed gender or sexuality can live without fear repression or oppression and has the chance to live up to their individual potential. It's a shame black men of this generation seem to have abandoned that goal. Well a hard head makes a soft ass.
Rumor is they were trying to do the same bait & switch female replacement character w/ Blade which is why the director dropped out. Disney will never see another dime from me for life. Makes you wanna dig up Stan Lee and berate him
It is not Stan Lee fought the fought lies with Bob Iger. Also Disney already had plans on replacing T'challa as Black panther for Shuri this replacement was in discussions even when Chadwick Bosemen was still alive, he even protested against this move.
as of today marvel has on screen or coming to screen sam Wilson as Captain America, war machine, blade, Luke cage, samuals Jackson as Nick fury in secret war, patriot, Hiemdal, m baku, Phastos, wonder man,. Black female heroes have so far been Monica Rambue and now possibly iron heart and a female black panther. So what the hell is y'all talking about. Black female representation is seriously lacking. Do black men hate black women so much, do you hate your mother's, sisters, daughters so much that you want them to continue to be invisible in this medium? It seems lately the only group black men have the strength to fight is black women. You won't get ahead by shoving black women down. All that will happen is eventually you will lose black women's support.
The more clips Marvel releases, the Less I am interested in seeing the film. Everything you point out in this video is exactly right and how I've been feeling as the premiere date gets closer. I've been 100% behind the #recast T'Challa movement since it started but the MCU seems controlled by woke leftist staff that keeps motivating the young emotional new fans that only learned of the Black Panther from the MCU films and haven't ever read the 50+-year-old source material. I'm actually sorry that I Want the film to fail in hopes that they realize they've made a huge mistake in not recasting or at least not killing off the main character.
I was never a fan of BP the minute they made shuri be the brains of wankanda and made t challah weak. I was already done and seen this crap coming. I'm done with feminist marvel.
I would co-sign if they had black Men and Women fighting for liberation of Wakanda. Unfortunately, the extinction of Black Men in Art as in Life is calculated. What is the end goal of Black Misandry?
as of today marvel has on screen or coming to screen sam Wilson as Captain America, war machine, blade, Luke cage, samuals Jackson as Nick fury in secret war, patriot, Hiemdal, m baku, Phastos, wonder man,. Black female heroes have so far been Monica Rambue and now possibly iron heart and a female black panther. So what the hell is y'all talking about. Black female representation is seriously lacking. Do black men hate black women so much, do you hate your mother's, sisters, daughters so much that you want them to continue to be invisible in this medium? It seems lately the only group black men have the strength to fight is black women. You won't get ahead by shoving black women down. All that will happen is eventually you will lose black women's support.
@Clement McKenzie Your Mother's black narrative is played out. Leave the guilt trip at the therapist's office. Erasing a Half-century of Black Panther characterization, is obvious to any Graphic Novel reader. There are many stand alone Black Women characters. Storm comes to mind. Storm and Black Panther fought together, made a Family together in the Novels. It is obvious that the imagery of Black Men and Women together is a problem. To erase Black Men from the Black Panther franchise is ridiculous.
@@mercedesrepair6838 as I said before, black women heros are under represented in the MCU, there are a grand total of 4. Black male heroes are not, there are 10 to 13 depending on how you count. So black men are not suffering representation issues in favor of black women, the numbers do not support that, black men are not suffering replacement by black females the numbers do not support that, black men in fact are the most represented minority group in the MCU. this TH-cams argument is spurious and unsupported by the actual facts on the ground. Furthermore black women instead of advocating for black female representation have been steadfastly supporting black male representation in the MCU in the name of their sons, as black women always do. Gosh it would be nice just once to see black men do the same in the name of their daughters, but I guess that's too much to ask from a segment of the black population that seems to be getting more self absorbed and entitled every day. Four to ten just isn't a great ratio.
@@clementmckenzie7041 who are you trying to convince? You don’t need us anyway? Go complain to white liberals those are your allies not black men remember?
Like you, I would love for this to be a good sequel but I’ve seen more WOMEN putting together watch parties and talking about dressing up for the movie and most black men who watch will only be there for “date night”
@@laymansjournal as of today marvel has on screen or coming to screen sam Wilson as Captain America, war machine, blade, Luke cage, samuals Jackson as Nick fury in secret war, patriot, Hiemdal, m baku, Phastos, wonder man,. Black female heroes have so far been Monica Rambue and now possibly a female black panther. So what the hell is y'all talking about. Black female representation is seriously lacking. Do black men hate black women so much, do you hate your mother's, sisters, daughters so much that you want them to continue to be invisible in this medium? It seems lately the only group black men have the strength to fight is black women. You won't get ahead by shoving black women down. All that will happen is eventually you will lose black women's support.
@@clementmckenzie7041 " Do black men hate black women so much, do you hate your mother's, sisters, daughters so much that you want them to continue to be invisible in this medium? It seems lately the only group black men have the strength to fight is black women. You won't get ahead by shoving black women down. All that will happen is eventually you will lose black women's support." Really? Because I was reading an argument between a black guy and a black feminist, and from what I read, I'd say black guys lost that support a LONG time ago. If you want to talk about "Hate", then why not address Ms. Dulaney Gibson's hate for black men. She braged about how black women are the leaders/future of the race, because the majority of black college graduates are black women. But as for black men, according to her? They're all a bunch of gangbangers who propagate crimes to the point of making cities/towns unsafe. And oh, was there so much more in her hate rant. She'd make David Dukes proud. Now let's go over that list- 1. Captain America? Sam's run won't make it past ONE film and then he'll go back to being a sidekick, and that's IF his film isn't cancelled. I wouldn't count on seeing much more of him in the future. But for the record, we'll always have Storm. And don't worry, Ladyhawk is coming. 2.War Machine- Ironheart is his black female equivalent. Rhodey was Ironman for damn near half of the comic's runtime. Tony had a habit of getting depressed or falling back into alcoholism, so it was up to Rhodey to take on the Ironman mantle. That lasted for decades. But hey, Riri is a newly invented character. Let's give the title to her. So how did black women lose on that one? She's getting her own series. She got her own personal debut in the upcoming film. 3.M'baku- Are you kidding me?! He's a lame JOKE and if he's even present in any future tv series, it will be as some lame secondary character. Meanwhile the Dora are starring in the upcoming film, when they had little to NO real history/presence in the comics. But it's clear that
@@clementmckenzie7041 As for "hating our own sisters/mothers", how dare you even suggest that. Do you all hate your fathers/sons so much that you would willingly shove them to the side so women can have THEIR recognition at men's expense? Where is the black female support for black men?? "Black female representation is seriously lacking"_ OMG LOL. Someone apparently hasn't been paying attention to these films/tv shows lately. Black female representation is all over the place. But black male representation is declining. We black males BEGGED for a black male Double 0 agent for DECADES. What did we finally get? Oh yeah, a black FEMALE 00 agent. Have we ever had a black Batman yet? NO?? But we had a black FEMALE Batwoman, now didn't we? Black Lightning? Let's be real, here. He only got that show because Hollywood knew it would get THREE Strong Black Female characters included in that package. In the end, by season 4, they'd already planned to sideline Jefferson in favor of his daughters. But to be fair, his show did suck. But China got disgusted with Hollywood and bailed. We still haven't seen that Painkiller show. But he sucked so... I could go ALL day with this. Just look at this from Forbes -" In the fight for civil rights in America, Black women have steadily led the way for centuries." Note how they ever so conveniently forget about all the efforts made by MLK and other black male leaders during those times. Where are the black women disputing any of that? You can't tell me Hollywood/the media aren't spazzing out for black women while all but ignoring black men. It's as if they're trying to write black men out of their own damn history. Lewis Latimer was key in laying down the electrical grid for this country. But he doesn't have a vagina. So, the modern feminist media/feminist Hollywood couldn't care less about him.
@@dustinmaxwell259 My father was a husband to an ambitious woman, the father of two talented boys and three academically gifted daughters one of whom was a card carrying actuall genius. My father was a feminist, his mother had two degrees and struggled to find work because she was a woman and his father was not supportive of her ambition or her talents. He raised us on the mantra of equality for all. That everyone should be able to go as far as their talents, ambition and hard work can take them,and to support each other. End of story. My brother did the same for his daughter and I have raised my son's to believe the same. What did your father raise you to believe about black women and solidarity in the fight for equality, justice and enfranchisement? In 2021 Hollywood produced 11 movies with female leads. Not a single one was a black woman. As a matter of fact of the movies Hollywood produced with black male leads, Tennant, king Richard, Judas and the black Messiah, etc not all of them had black women in them in any capacity. You tell me, what Hollywood motion picture had a black female lead in 2021, how about 2019. Outside of the evening news, black women are dramatically under represented as leads in media production. Where is black female support, you are kidding right, the anti lynching movement, the civil rights movement, the black lives matter movement, black women voted for Obama at twice the rate black men did. The majority of tickets purchased by black people to see the black panther were purchased by black women. Black women always show up for black men, they march in the streets for us, they seek justice for us, they fight for us even before we know there is a fight, you damn lie to say otherwise. We were never fighting for a black James Bond , a black female media commentator in the UK came up with that one all on her own. She suggested Idris Elba, on good morning Britton . Weren't no black men doing any campaigning for it before her. There shouldn't be a black batman. Bruce Wayne's whiteness is intrinsic to that character. His is the reaction of a rich white man. It comes from a place of privilege that few black men could justify. We do however have a black robin at this time on the Teen Titans. And a black robin in waiting in the comics. The numbers do not support your assertion of black women being used as replacement for black men. The MCU has 10 black male superheroes and only 3 black female superheroes. The numbers just don't support what you are claiming. The Arrow verse had only 4 , the DCU has none. The numbers do not support your assertions.
Ugh, and Grace sadly sounds like she's blinded by the whole "women empowerment" thing to even care that those of us who have a problem are hating that the MCU is willing to omit the comic book history of T'Challa! And She's supposed to be a comic reviewer, isn't she? SMDH!!
Strong independent black woman: Own house? = section 8 programs. Own transportation? = other gov’t subsidies. Own Income = child tax credits, stimulus checks per child, “child support,” various other gov’t, & non-gov’t organizations. *non essential worker income.
Why is it that you have a problem that lately they've been showing strong female roles and movies lately? Women help nurture in uplift humanity, so why is it a problem? There will be a world without women? Will there be a world without men? Women help uplift men, and men are supposed to help uplift women, we both need each other and make the world go around so I don't get what the big deal is. I mean we've been looking at movies for decades and decades with strong male characters were men kick ass all the time, why come in can't watch movies about the reversal?
The fact that they removed T’Challa the main character of the comics and the franchise is my issue Grace!!! This movie is pushing the side characters as a replacement for the main character, then why would I care?? If they removed Peter Parker Spider-Man from his own franchise I’m gone cause I don’t care anymore. Why in the world would I support this blatant disrespect to the character of T’Challa? It ain’t getting my money
New to this channel. This is an insightful breakdown, it sure does save me from all the rage by looking at what this new movie is from a proper perspective. "Its a chic flick" and it should be seen as such, same goes for all other marvel phase4 movies like it. And the Woman King too.
It's not a "chick flick", (the words " chick flick" feel just very excluding.) In fact in the movie, (how do you people make opinions based on two channels boggles me but I digress) M'Baku is the one to point out the idiotcy of Shuri's plan. She's not some god in the movie, she's has flaws the entire movie is about her dealing with her grief and learning to move on, (SPOILER ALERT HERE) and also her mother dies, due to Namor so she is willing to start an all out war and nearly kills her entire army, because she wants revenge for her mother. It's a great almost character study on everyone from Wakanda, and Riri nearly dies like five times over, she wasn't portrayed as so powerfully feminine there.
The girl at the beginning of the clip forgets who fixes her car and her roof and the roads and everything else when they stop working, lol. Independent goes out the window at that point
Also they were talking about replace tchala and making Shuri the black panther after the first movie. Boseman death just have them a good excuse to do it. Which is why they killed tchala in this movie instead of just replacing the actor. They could have at least given tchala 3 movies before replacing him with shuri!
as of today marvel has on screen or coming to screen sam Wilson as Captain America, war machine, blade, Luke cage, samuals Jackson as Nick fury in secret war, patriot, Hiemdal, m baku, Phastos, wonder man,. Black female heroes have so far been Monica Rambue and now possibly iron heart and a female black panther. So what the hell is y'all talking about. Black female representation is seriously lacking. Do black men hate black women so much, do you hate your mother's, sisters, daughters so much that you want them to continue to be invisible in this medium? It seems lately the only group black men have the strength to fight is black women. You won't get ahead by shoving black women down. All that will happen is eventually you will lose black women's support.
@@acewalker I think this film would have been too soon to replace Chadwick. The cast needed this film to mourn and honor their brother. But I do think it should be a possibility for future films.
As female I’ve got nothing against having more female leads however my problem is when the movie is supposed to be focused on a male lead, it takes his spotlight away (and I relized this until Loki and Dr strange2, ❤️ Wanda by the way). Whats even ironic to me is for years I’ve been seeing complaints about how “Hollywood is dominated with white men” yet at the same time you have characters like Tchalla they can focus (recast).
as of today marvel has on screen or coming to screen sam Wilson as Captain America, war machine, blade, Luke cage, samuals Jackson as Nick fury in secret war, patriot, Hiemdal, m baku, Phastos, wonder man,. Black female heroes have so far been Monica Rambue and now possibly iron heart and a female black panther. So what the hell is y'all talking about. Black female representation is seriously lacking. Do black men hate black women so much that they want them to continue to be invisible in this medium? It seems lately the only group black men have the strength to fight is black women.
You do have other character like Riri, Storm (well she’s in X-men) etc, heck they could make a Captain Ramue solo movie, personally in my opinion even though Chadwick unfortunately died, they could’ve recasted him, actors don’t need to be the same as other actors how they portray character bc they have there own way bringing the character to life, we have seen this with James Bond, joker etc we haven’t spent that much time with the character and so many things he did in the comics we could’ve seen on screen, Tchalla could’ve at least had 3 trilogy movies and maybe the mantle could’ve been passed on Shuri but at the end the day I Still view Shuri as a side character, and if Black female representation is lacking on screen, they can revive the characters from the comics, and if it’s lacking in the comics, they can create original characters.
@@Femmeaesthetic the thing is, in the comics, Shuri becomes the black panther, it's source material Cannon. Now or later at some point she becomes the black panther. Regardless, that is not what this TH-cam is about, it's not about Chadwick, it's not about recasting it's not really about the black panther. It's starts with an attack on so called strong black women and it ends with one, it makes a non factual claim about black mail replacement and representation but this movie is just being used as a vehicle to attack black women and that is sad. Black women supported the first movie in record numbers, they didn't kill Chad and they didn't decide not to recast. I noticed how this tuber went on and one about what a nice white lady grace is, even though he doesn't agree with her and then went straight to bashing black women. This TH-cam is trash, the argument is fake and this is just another fake ass brother with black women hate issues. It's tired and played.
@@clementmckenzie7041 yup you got us black men hats black women or perhaps we don’t like seeing movies and characters we supported for decades be killed off and replaced for an audience that just became aware of them four years ago. And the major difference between this movie and the first one black women were depicted as strong and capable hell if you knew anything about the Tchalla character you would have known he was the super genius in the source material not Shuri. So in the first movie you get capable women warriors spies and a genius. What do black men get in this one? Seriously if you have a son or brother or any kind of black man you care about who is he suppose to see in that movie and be like damn now that’s someone I wish I was like.
@@Seancarter2010 I'm a black man, I have sons, a brother, nephews male cousins and a father. I also have sisters, nieces, grand nieces, and female cousins. I have been reading comics, what you call the source material since the 1970s . I know these characters like the back of my hand and have seen them evolve dramatically over time. What I want for the male members of my family I also want for the female members of my family equally. Most importantly I don't want the male members of my family to view black women through the same kind of lens that the black men on this channel view black women. I want for them what my father gave us, a view of black women as equal partners in life, love and the struggle for equality. Equal partners not junior partners, respected for who they are not what men want them to be in order to best serve male needs or goals. At present the black male super hero to black female superheroes ratio in the Marvel cinematic Universe does not do that. Luckily the black men who decide how these projects go at marvel, and Kevin's VPs in his division are two black men and a Latina, see that too. 13 black male heroes to four is inadequate. For however long latitia is the black panther, she hasn't signed her contract yet, will go a long way in showing both black boys and girls as exactly what is possible and how we can support, respect and love each other, just as it did in the source material when shuri became the Black panther for four years, during Tchalla illness. Where unlike in the movie she destroyed Atlantis and forced Namor to move it to a safer location. You are not going to see the movie so you will miss how Tchalla taught Shuri science and you are not really familiar enough with the comic to know that the Queen was once general of the Dora and taught her to fight since childhood or that her father taught her to rule should anything happen to her brother, in the comics Shuri is now combining magic and science on a Dr Doom level. What I want is for black men and black women to see each others worth and that is not going to happen while brothers are trying to force another group of adults into a submissive posture. It took thousands of years and a great deal of savage brutality and dehumanization for white men to beat their women into a state of submission where their very existence had no meaning outside of that assigned to it by a white man. A state of affairs no African society ever chose to inflict on it's female population prior to white colonization. A state white women have just begun to emerge from. Is that what you want for your sister's, daughters and nieces. Sometimes before taking a stance you gotta think it threw to it's logical outcome.
It's a year old, but I'm glad you were able to articulate my thoughts on the movie. It's exactly how I felt, leading up to the movie, except I wasn't excited to see it, and didn't bother to see it in theatres. I just watched it in a community screening, as I'm a community worker.
I don't 100% agree with 100% of everything 100% of the time when it comes to these sorts of things, I'm more of an 87%er, but you sold me with that opening, I despise women like that and part of the reason I immediately dismissed both The Woman King and Wakanda Forever from the trailers alone is because that's their target audience and I immediately wanted nothing to do with that black and blue thing or her ilk
as of today marvel has on screen or coming to screen sam Wilson as Captain America, war machine, blade, Luke cage, samuals Jackson as Nick fury in secret war, patriot, Hiemdal, m baku, Phastos, wonder man,. Black female heroes have so far been Monica Rambue and now possibly iron heart and a female black panther. So what the hell is y'all talking about. Black female representation is seriously lacking. Do black men hate black women so much, do you hate your mother's, sisters, daughters so much that you want them to continue to be invisible in this medium? It seems lately the only group black men have the strength to fight is black women. You won't get ahead by shoving black women down. All that will happen is eventually you will lose black women's support.
@@clementmckenzie7041 lol be quiet my family has nothing to do with this don't project 🤣 it just makes you look even dumber than all this incomprehensible word vomit already does trust me chump, I don't want the support of black women like the one featured at the beginning of this video go white knight somewhere else
a black panther movie without the main character. not sure how the usual demographic will find that interesting. i don't think they should have killed the character. Why couldn't they just not have off doing something else so that they can recast him later?
It was over a decade ago, that you spoke about the wall of silence. That wall of silence has been erected, and they are beginning to feel its effects. Special kudos for your "Dad I'm Scared" vid, all those years ago.
I’m glad I didn’t see this movie because it’s way too women centric & it doesn’t promote positive benefits of black masculinity. It’s way too supportive of feminism & I fuckin hate any film that promotes feminism!lol,smfh REALTALK 😒😒😒…….
Truth be told, the 1st black panther film was on a woman's empowerment kick too. Tchaka killed his brother, he and Zuri abandoned Ndjaka instead of bringing him back with them, to cover the deception. Also Tchalla was more formidable and a better fighter in captain America civil war. In Wakanda forever, the woman's empowerment is just stronger. The 1st film didn't really do the male characters any favors.
I have three daughters and one son, now my son and my oldest daughter are both old enough to do their own thing but my two younger daughters keep begging me to go and see the movie with them that I’ve already watched on my laptop. I’ve been trying to tell them that I can’t do it because I’m at old school marvels comics fanatic and I did not like how this movie was done at all. I’ve been begging them to ask their mother to go take them to see the movie because I’m not going to the theater. There is enough of the emasculation of the Black man going on out there
When the first trailer dropped, I knew it was gonna be a female empowerment movie. No T'Challa, the bastardization of Namor and very little screen time for the men, it has M She U written all over it. I'll wait for D+.
Disney will never admit this, but acording to certain sources, it was NOT a success. More than one source has said Disney spent $250 on the budget and nearly as much on the advertising. That means the film had to break close to $1 Billion just to break even. They can't sell any of the WF toys. Bob Iger tried a last ditch effort with China but we all know it won't make any money there. So, there goes that, "It would have hit $1 Billion it it had been in China" argument.
Listening to the audio alone, i would be hardpressed to be sure that first woman was a woman. I listen to Grace Randolph's reviews. Usually she likes everything and will say good things about everything. That means if she's moved to say something negative...it's something really obvious. And even if she overall enjoys a movie from a feminist viewpoint, she will point out if the movie is unfair to men...I'll certainly give her that. Grace was stronger in her actual review about pointing out that Wakanda Forever was alienating to men. The fact is, Chadwick died at the opportune moment for Disney's feminist agenda. Chadwick Boseman's death saved them from having to embarrassingly demasculinze Black Panther on screen the way they did Thor and Hulk.
as of today marvel has on screen or coming to screen sam Wilson as Captain America, war machine, blade, , samuals Jackson as Nick fury in secret war, patriot, Hiemdal, m baku, Phastos, wonder man,. Black female heroes have so far been Monica Rambue and now possibly iron heart and a female black panther. So what the hell is y'all talking about. Black female representation is seriously lacking. Do black men hate black women so much, do you hate your mother's, sisters, daughters so much that you want them to continue to be invisible in this medium? It seems lately the only group black men have the strength to fight is black women. You won't get ahead by shoving black women down. All that will happen is eventually you will lose black women's support.
@@clementmckenzie7041 There's Misty Knight from Luke cage, Storm from X-men, Domino from deadpool, okoye from black panther who they've made a main character and can classify as a hero at this point add that to the ones you listed above.
@@killmongerC-137 I am sorry when did , storm, Domino or misty appear in a an MCU movie?? When are they slated to appear in an MCU movie? Does this mean that I get to add Luke cage and other non MCU appearing black men hero's to my list? It would be great I'f okoye became a lead character, but she is not, and they have expressed no plans to make her one. Deni has just signed a major deal with walking dead, so it's not in the cards.
as of today marvel has on screen or coming to screen sam Wilson as Captain America, war machine, blade, Luke cage, samuals Jackson as Nick fury in secret war, patriot, Hiemdal, m baku, Phastos, wonder man,. Black female heroes have so far been Monica Rambue and now possibly iron heart and a female black panther. So what the hell is y'all talking about. Black female representation is seriously lacking. Do black men hate black women so much, do you hate your mother's, sisters, daughters so much that you want them to continue to be invisible in this medium? It seems lately the only group black men have the strength to fight is black women. You won't get ahead by shoving black women down. All that will happen is eventually you will lose black women's support.
Sisters have been like this since the 60s, Angela Davis. Black Panthers changed gun laws. Grand Pop, hit the ground running!? Only thing running in my sons and grand sons are the mouth!? Action!? Don't get me wrong, but you voted GOP which you alienated all of my contacts by going to their competitors. We put this thing together, not you!? Women got major pay!? You got the same rights as black women, my granddaughters!? I am proud of them.
This is the reason I don't watch Grace Randolf any more. So if I don't want to see this film there is something wrong with me? I'm not interested in this film because Disney is a shit company that no longer creates good media.
From a woman with Blue hair, talk like a dude, and is not married. 😆 Man some of these black women take advice from anybody. 😆 You can tell she probably has been ran through.And instead of telling her daughter , not to make the same mistakes she made.It seem she is setting her up for failure.
Telling her daughter to provide her own stability is setting her up for failure? Really? Without those women you hate, the black community would have died out. While they were learning to toughen up in order to provide for families, what were black men doing for the community? Truth is truth black men have spent the last five generations doing everything but being good examples for the community. They have been creating children they had no interest in, and no intention of supporting filling the airwaves with music that is violent and demeaning to women, flooding the drugs,and going straight to jail. You want to know why black women had to toughen up, so that their children wouldn't starve. So that their would be a protector and provider in their house, them. So you can hate them all you want but they were necessary, irresponsible black men made them necessary.
@@clementmckenzie7041 The black community is in the bad shape it is in because mostly of black women. Nobody is telling these toxic black women to have children with men they ate not married to.Some of these women don't even know who their children father is.For one i never said that this woman in the video, shouldn't tell her daughter to take care of herself. So you are putting words in my mouth. If her daughter is grown, then she have to work and make a living for herself. It's called being grown. 80 percent of the children born in the black community, are born out of wedlock. These toxic black women will open their legs to a man who will not marry them, or commit to them, as long as they like him.Women control access to sex, not men.No one is forcing these women to have sex with Men who are not their husbands. The black community is going foward because of black Men, not black women. Most black women are turning young black boys into sissies, and turning their daughters into masculine, unsubmissive, combative, hateful, disrespectful, mean spirited women like themselves. So how is that holding up the black community?😆
I'm done with the MCU. They didn't recast the character because they don't want to many straight strong black men in their movies. This movie is all about black girl magic and they will probably push the LGBT agenda.
as of today marvel has on screen or coming to screen sam Wilson as Captain America, war machine, blade, Luke cage, samuals Jackson as Nick fury in secret war, patriot, Hiemdal, m baku, Phastos, wonder man,. Black female heroes have so far been Monica Rambue and now possibly iron heart and a female black panther. So what the hell is y'all talking about. Black female representation is seriously lacking. Do black men hate black women so much, do you hate your mother's, sisters, daughters so much that you want them to continue to be invisible in this medium? It seems lately the only group black men have the strength to fight is black women. You won't get ahead by shoving black women down. All that will happen is eventually you will lose black women's support.
@@clementmckenzie7041 I don't think you watch or read enough to understand you're wrong. Again it's a medium for men and boys. They've got representation. Storm, valkerie, vixen, thunder and lightning on a show supposed to be about their father, they dumbed down t'challa for shuri, catwoman and lots more so what are you talking about? Most afro American women don't care about the genre in the first place.
@@lunarnature412 I don't think you have a clue what most black women are interested in. The majority of tickets bought by black people for the original black panther movie was purchased by black women. In the MCU there are a total of 4 black female superheroes. For years there were none. Brothers lobbied for black female representation not at all. We never do. Where as black men are adequately represented and have more representation on the way. My mother gave me my first comic book to encourage me to read, I have three sisters they all were comics fans. Most of the black women I have dated had at least a passing interest in comics. But even more importantly black women show up for pro black projects, regardless of if it's their thing or not. They didn't dumb down Tchalla he is still a genius, shuri was just smarter. She is in the comics also. She wasn't a better black panther when she was the black panther in the comics but she a better ruler of Wakanda. It's really a shame black men just can't bring themselves to show up for black women the same way they consistently show up for us. eventually it's gonna cost us.
@@clementmckenzie7041 I'm basing it on facts not personal anecdotes and one particular circumstance. I'm not going to argue with you. This is what I've been looking into for the last 15 years. You can't tell me what I've researched and see for myself. You completely ignored what I've said.
Black women don't get that this make them to look less desirable then other women. Men are attracted to feminine women, even more Black men, that values masculinity the most. Then they ask why men in general go after women that talk sweet and seductive. Black women, start to combat this narrative. You are the only one that can change it. Don't let the lesbians who are dating lesbian white women lead you to the place hollywood is trying to place you all in.
Between the argumentative and "strong" Black woman on the dating market and films like this, I just can't deal with it as a Black man. The feminist movement has faults that need to be addressed.
Our beloved Chadwick is dead, RIP. Now get another heroic Black MALE actor and let's continue. When Christopher Reeves got crippled from his horse they got another SUPERMAN. They've gone through 8 BATMANs, so what's the problem with BLACK PANTHER?
India Irie has a song called Come Back to the Middle and that's what they need to do in Hollywood to find some middle ground. And not for nothing, I may be seen in real life 2 men peck lips once maybe twice, and have yet to see a 90 lb woman choke slam, and beat up any man without the man showing restraint, ijs.
I yield!!! I mean submit to a 100 pound Black Panther… That was basically the point.. The Women standing over the Man to kill him the only way to live was to say the word that mean submission. “yield”
#RecastTChalla also, phase 4 isn't a total disaster, at least we got, "no way home" and "Shang-Chi" and helped the Asian American community cause asians in the west is invisible, especially asain men, now the black male community understand how the Asian male community feels when we get shunned for Asian women and "yellow fetish" and the strong Asian woman stereotype.
My guy miss me with that nonsense. We literally bleed for our right to be represented and we do it to be represented in a way that everyone doesn’t look at us like criminals. If the cost of being invisible was having the highest earning population along with the most feminine females in the world I would gladly trade places. Quit complain
Bro, you guys have the whole K-pop scene and anime scene on your d*cks. Girls all over the world drooling over you all Idols. Damn, even the black community loves you all characters, like Bruce Lee, Jackie Chan, Goku etc. What are you talking about. In other way, black men only have the american cinema to represent them in a good light around the world, and we get almost nothing these days. But Trap music...I said in a positive way.
I couldn't quite put my finger on why I don't like this movie. I just realized. It's because of Shuri! She can literally do anything. Hard to root for someone like that.
I wasn't really excited for the sequel. They didn't recast Chadwick, all the male characters from the first movie are barely in it, I read the review and hated how they honored tchalla. Oh and in the end they made him a dead baby daddy smdh.
Woman king was amazing black panther was amazing....I feel in general males are sexiest they feel superior to women ...I came from woman so I will forever hold high regard to women..
I really don’t count Sam Wilson’s Captain America as a male superhero for African Americans only for the fans of Captain America can really appreciate her character but outside him are there any BLACK MALE characters that we can look up too who aren’t derived from another established character, In the media I see more pro black girl in tech than I do anywhere? Where are the black males at? Something ain’t right with how we and out black boys are represented in the media it’s very little and it’s truly concerning
White woman feminist supremacy gave us the Woman King which was a flop but it was a harbinger of things to come. Now they gave us Black Pantherette 2, next is Bladea and Spawnisha.
I heard about FemBlade. Good lord...
😂😂😂 Good one
I can imagine the marvels crabby, horny, and puffy.
They used Chadwick's death to make an excuse to push this agenda. They were going to do this anyway Boseman's death just gave them an excuse. Remember, before he died, they were talking about replacing him with Shuri. And he didn't even have 2 movies, but they were talking about replacing him.
Savage.🤨
The positive Black male image is being eliminated. Even the McDonald's Black Panther Happy Meal toys only have one Black male figurine, M'Baku. Where did all the men go?
Let’s see coming out from MCU/marvel relatively soon we have:
Captain America: New World Order
Blade
Armor Wars
Wonder Man
All will feature strong heterosexual black male lead characters.
So far we’ve had:
Black Panther
Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse
Blade (Snipes)
Luke Cage
Falcon and the Winter Soldier
What exactly have black women gotten besides Wakanda Forever?
To w…e feminism back waters and drained down the whole like a “plan b”
Finally, people are catching on.
@@SmartDave60 Its ironicaly racist to not give Falcon his own solo movie and instead have him have to change into Captain America
Same goes for black Wonder Man instead of using an established black character thats already in the comicbooks
Its like they are not liking characters that was already black in the comics, Blade and Black Panther are minor exceptions
@@rikardandersson5582 we’re not talking about whether the roles are racist or not we’re talking about positive black heterosexual male roles in MCU/marvel versus what blank women have gotten.
And you skipped right over Miles, Luke and Rhodey.
I'm sure there will be black men who will support Wakanda Forever, but I won't be one. Chadwick Boseman was a fantastic actor, but he was not T'Challa. Black Panther is a nearly 60 year old character, the first black superhero. I've been reading Black Panther comics for 30 years, 99.5% of those stories have centered on T'Challa. I will not pay to see T'Challa killed on firm and won't be taking my children to see it either.
Preach!
His Legacy is bigger than black panther He didn't create black panther That character was here years before he was born and years before he played them but this is why black men are looked at as soft so many black men in Hollywood who could have done a good job playing black panther but u soft black males rather give it to a woman than to see another black man play the role let that been Robert Downey Jr Chris Evans iron man or captain American they would have recast them without a doubt but I'm 38 years old a lot of u guys are new to black panther since 2017.
Absolutely agree
Facts
Yeah but I think the there goal was to eventually go female black panther marvel really pushing women hero even though they know those movies or shows will most likely flop the best series they had not to long ago was captain america and winter soldier series
They killed off T’challa/The Black Panther… hell nah I’m not watching that feminist cesspool
Alienating Black men? That's not a bug it's a FEATURE!!! SMH When will they ever learn
The Funny as shit Bro
as of today marvel has on screen or coming to screen sam Wilson as Captain America, war machine, blade, Luke cage, samuals Jackson as Nick fury in secret war, patriot, Hiemdal, m baku, Phastos, wonder man,. Black female heroes have so far been Monica Rambue and now possibly a female black panther. So what the hell is y'all talking about. Black female representation is seriously lacking. Do black men hate black women so much, do you hate your mother's, sisters, daughters so much that you want them to continue to be invisible in this medium? It seems lately the only group black men have the strength to fight is black women. You won't get ahead by shoving black women down. All that will happen is eventually you will lose black women's support.
@@clementmckenzie7041 Only group getting SHOVED DOWN are men. Being made to look stupid to make medicare female characters look better doesn't raise anyone up. It's the embodiment of envy itself. Example being I'm not improving my front lawn to look better anyone else's I'm poisoning everybody else's grass in whole neighborhood so by default my lawn is better
@@oculus1857 sounds like what black men on this thread are doing. Black women surpassed black men in income, education, and entrepreneurship a generation ago. Instead of stepping up the black male game black men like you have decided to tear down black women. No other minority group is as well represented in marvel as black men, not Asians, Latinos, women and damn sure not black women. There are only three black female superheroes in marvel movies, 3 Asian, 2 Latino, 1Desi and 13 black men if anything black men are over represented. But because black women are the only group black men seem willing to fight, you want to go after the pathetic representation black women have in the medium. It's disgusting. Non of you had a damn thing to say when there were no black women in the MCU. You all are full of hate for your own and that is some sick uncle ruckus shit y'all on. No future on it.
@@clementmckenzie7041 Why more Black Men have passports I guess 😉
It went from Wakanda forever to Women forever 😂
That target add
Yup. I’m good.
Facts
Woke anda forever 🤡🤡🤡
They gonna make Tchalla the deadbeat dad! I'm hearing that Nakea is pregnant in this one
Also mad LGBT push to counter the African traditional distaste for LGBT
How can you be dead and a deadbeat at the same time?
You were right
@@GoldenJaguar-xy3gn No he wasn't.
Most men don’t want see a all female superhero movie where the women kicking the men ass.
They should have replaced Chadwick Boseman and gotten a new tchala
Yep. That would have been the better decision.
Yup, they have no problem replacing thunderbolt ross, why can’t they do the same for T’Challa ?
People would have still complained
The "tribute" comes of as disrespectful, like they saw an opportunity to push their feminist agenda with Chadwick's passing
As a 58 yr old BM who supported comics with my allowance/odd job money and was a Black Panther fan....
Hard pass on this fem-power BS.🤨
You’re not a fan of Black Panther comics if you think this “fem-power bs”
@@Damn_bruh029 Who are you to tell this grown man what he likes because generation woke is in their feelings? Lmao
@@ruckusbeblack Thanks, bruh.
The Black Panther is T'Challa and his father T'Chaka before him...
As I said before:
I bought BP comics in the 70s...
Shane, who I believe I actually Sha-né, had NO argument as to why it's NOT fem power bs.
Peace 😄
Nerds are mostly male's, and males will support as much as they supported Wonder Woman and Captain Marvel. I've already chosen to give this a miss because I don't support the decision to kill off T'challa, and I don't see myself enjoying the film.
I went and seen wonder woman, but not captain marvel. I don't support any actress that sh-ts no men, no matter how much of a nerd I may be.
You can kill off Tchalla. But why not uplift a male character in his place? There's been a few BP's in the comics other than Shuri.
@@serrahighsfinest why kill of a iconic hero, they should have waited and recasted for an appropriate successor.. but that wasn't in their pro feminist agenda.
@@negroantonio28 Precisely. The only issue is that in today's MCU they probably would've made him g4y...
@@MrClassicmetal that's the next phase, now gender swap next sexuality
Black women don’t need men unless his name Joe Biden. hilarious. So glad that somebody said what we are all thinking. Feels like people get fearful to saying things like this.
The questions is !!! At what point Disney will back down ... apparently they did'nt loose enough money yet !!!
Great point. They hear our complaints while laughing all the way to the bank with our money.
as of today marvel has on screen or coming to screen sam Wilson as Captain America, war machine, blade, Luke cage, samuals Jackson as Nick fury in secret war, patriot, Hiemdal, m baku, Phastos, wonder man,. Black female heroes have so far been Monica Rambue and now possibly iron heart and a female black panther. So what the hell is y'all talking about. Black female representation is seriously lacking. Do black men hate black women so much, do you hate your mother's, sisters, daughters so much that you want them to continue to be invisible in this medium? It seems lately the only group black men have the strength to fight is black women. You won't get ahead by shoving black women down. All that will happen is eventually you will lose black women's support.
They can't stop until it destroys society. This is not a pendulum effect. It's a hidden agenda. They are only one company of the many who are on this bandwagon. Look at who owns the companies. It's the same folks every time.
@@brandish4952 Disney is a multinational conglomerate, no one owns it, it's share holders own bits of it. The Disney family are white christians, Walt Disney himself was antisemitic, and bigoted, he didn't believe that black people were equal to white people. Luckily, his children did not share his views. yes their is an agenda, gay people and women share it and their organizations work every day to promote it. The agenda is, equality for all. So that' everyone regardless of race creed gender or sexuality can live without fear repression or oppression and has the chance to live up to their individual potential. It's a shame black men of this generation seem to have abandoned that goal. Well a hard head makes a soft ass.
Enough fools say “it’s great!” to each other while bearing fake smiles and paying for tickets
Yeah, We Need To Build Are Own Straight Masculine Black Male Heroes Studios Like Black Panther, Luke Cage, John Stewart, Bishop etc.
Rumor is they were trying to do the same bait & switch female replacement character w/ Blade which is why the director dropped out. Disney will never see another dime from me for life. Makes you wanna dig up Stan Lee and berate him
Wow!
It is not Stan Lee fought the fought lies with Bob Iger. Also Disney already had plans on replacing T'challa as Black panther for Shuri this replacement was in discussions even when Chadwick Bosemen was still alive, he even protested against this move.
Marshalla Ali was already cast as blade? What are you talking about?
@@JonathanLittle001 was he slated to be followed by a female?
Y/N?
as of today marvel has on screen or coming to screen sam Wilson as Captain America, war machine, blade, Luke cage, samuals Jackson as Nick fury in secret war, patriot, Hiemdal, m baku, Phastos, wonder man,. Black female heroes have so far been Monica Rambue and now possibly iron heart and a female black panther. So what the hell is y'all talking about. Black female representation is seriously lacking. Do black men hate black women so much, do you hate your mother's, sisters, daughters so much that you want them to continue to be invisible in this medium? It seems lately the only group black men have the strength to fight is black women. You won't get ahead by shoving black women down. All that will happen is eventually you will lose black women's support.
Bro, you're killin it. Keep on keepin on with your unique perspectives.
I knew this was going to happen when they had all of the men get on their knees in worship of the black women
The more clips Marvel releases, the Less I am interested in seeing the film. Everything you point out in this video is exactly right and how I've been feeling as the premiere date gets closer. I've been 100% behind the #recast T'Challa movement since it started but the MCU seems controlled by woke leftist staff that keeps motivating the young emotional new fans that only learned of the Black Panther from the MCU films and haven't ever read the 50+-year-old source material. I'm actually sorry that I Want the film to fail in hopes that they realize they've made a huge mistake in not recasting or at least not killing off the main character.
I was never a fan of BP the minute they made shuri be the brains of wankanda and made t challah weak. I was already done and seen this crap coming. I'm done with feminist marvel.
Im not seeing this sh*t... my wife is though... smh lol
I would co-sign if they had black Men and Women fighting for liberation of Wakanda. Unfortunately, the extinction of Black Men in Art as in Life is calculated. What is the end goal of Black Misandry?
as of today marvel has on screen or coming to screen sam Wilson as Captain America, war machine, blade, Luke cage, samuals Jackson as Nick fury in secret war, patriot, Hiemdal, m baku, Phastos, wonder man,. Black female heroes have so far been Monica Rambue and now possibly iron heart and a female black panther. So what the hell is y'all talking about. Black female representation is seriously lacking. Do black men hate black women so much, do you hate your mother's, sisters, daughters so much that you want them to continue to be invisible in this medium? It seems lately the only group black men have the strength to fight is black women. You won't get ahead by shoving black women down. All that will happen is eventually you will lose black women's support.
@Clement McKenzie Your Mother's black narrative is played out. Leave the guilt trip at the therapist's office.
Erasing a Half-century of Black Panther characterization, is obvious to any Graphic Novel reader. There are many stand alone Black Women characters. Storm comes to mind. Storm and Black Panther fought together, made a Family together in the Novels. It is obvious that the imagery of Black Men and Women together is a problem. To erase Black Men from the Black Panther franchise is ridiculous.
@@mercedesrepair6838 as I said before, black women heros are under represented in the MCU, there are a grand total of 4. Black male heroes are not, there are 10 to 13 depending on how you count. So black men are not suffering representation issues in favor of black women, the numbers do not support that, black men are not suffering replacement by black females the numbers do not support that, black men in fact are the most represented minority group in the MCU. this TH-cams argument is spurious and unsupported by the actual facts on the ground. Furthermore black women instead of advocating for black female representation have been steadfastly supporting black male representation in the MCU in the name of their sons, as black women always do. Gosh it would be nice just once to see black men do the same in the name of their daughters, but I guess that's too much to ask from a segment of the black population that seems to be getting more self absorbed and entitled every day. Four to ten just isn't a great ratio.
We have coronated the New Women King. Thx.
@@clementmckenzie7041 who are you trying to convince? You don’t need us anyway? Go complain to white liberals those are your allies not black men remember?
Like you, I would love for this to be a good sequel but I’ve seen more WOMEN putting together watch parties and talking about dressing up for the movie and most black men who watch will only be there for “date night”
Funny how that works. Just a few years ago, we were all nerds, and losers for liking Comics.
@@laymansjournal as of today marvel has on screen or coming to screen sam Wilson as Captain America, war machine, blade, Luke cage, samuals Jackson as Nick fury in secret war, patriot, Hiemdal, m baku, Phastos, wonder man,. Black female heroes have so far been Monica Rambue and now possibly a female black panther. So what the hell is y'all talking about. Black female representation is seriously lacking. Do black men hate black women so much, do you hate your mother's, sisters, daughters so much that you want them to continue to be invisible in this medium? It seems lately the only group black men have the strength to fight is black women. You won't get ahead by shoving black women down. All that will happen is eventually you will lose black women's support.
@@clementmckenzie7041 " Do black men hate black women so much, do you hate your mother's, sisters, daughters so much that you want them to continue to be invisible in this medium? It seems lately the only group black men have the strength to fight is black women. You won't get ahead by shoving black women down. All that will happen is eventually you will lose black women's support."
Really? Because I was reading an argument between a black guy and a black feminist, and from what I read, I'd say black guys lost that support a LONG time ago. If you want to talk about "Hate", then why not address Ms. Dulaney Gibson's hate for black men. She braged about how black women are the leaders/future of the race, because the majority of black college graduates are black women. But as for black men, according to her? They're all a bunch of gangbangers who propagate crimes to the point of making cities/towns unsafe.
And oh, was there so much more in her hate rant. She'd make David Dukes proud.
Now let's go over that list-
1. Captain America? Sam's run won't make it past ONE film and then he'll go back to being a sidekick, and that's IF his film isn't cancelled. I wouldn't count on seeing much more of him in the future. But for the record, we'll always have Storm. And don't worry, Ladyhawk is coming.
2.War Machine- Ironheart is his black female equivalent. Rhodey was Ironman for damn near half of the comic's runtime. Tony had a habit of getting depressed or falling back into alcoholism, so it was up to Rhodey to take on the Ironman mantle. That lasted for decades. But hey, Riri is a newly invented character. Let's give the title to her. So how did black women lose on that one? She's getting her own series. She got her own personal debut in the upcoming film.
3.M'baku- Are you kidding me?! He's a lame JOKE and if he's even present in any future tv series, it will be as some lame secondary character. Meanwhile the Dora are starring in the upcoming film, when they had little to NO real history/presence in the comics. But it's clear that
@@clementmckenzie7041 As for "hating our own sisters/mothers", how dare you even suggest that. Do you all hate your fathers/sons so much that you would willingly shove them to the side so women can have THEIR recognition at men's expense?
Where is the black female support for black men??
"Black female representation is seriously lacking"_ OMG LOL. Someone apparently hasn't been paying attention to these films/tv shows lately. Black female representation is all over the place. But black male representation is declining.
We black males BEGGED for a black male Double 0 agent for DECADES. What did we finally get? Oh yeah, a black FEMALE 00 agent. Have we ever had a black Batman yet? NO??
But we had a black FEMALE Batwoman, now didn't we?
Black Lightning? Let's be real, here. He only got that show because Hollywood knew it would get THREE Strong Black Female characters included in that package. In the end, by season 4, they'd already planned to sideline Jefferson in favor of his daughters. But to be fair, his show did suck. But China got disgusted with Hollywood and bailed. We still haven't seen that Painkiller show. But he sucked so...
I could go ALL day with this. Just look at this from Forbes -" In the fight for civil rights in America, Black women have steadily led the way for centuries."
Note how they ever so conveniently forget about all the efforts made by MLK and other black male leaders during those times. Where are the black women disputing any of that? You can't tell me Hollywood/the media aren't spazzing out for black women while all but ignoring black men. It's as if they're trying to write black men out of their own damn history. Lewis Latimer was key in laying down the electrical grid for this country. But he doesn't have a vagina. So, the modern feminist media/feminist Hollywood couldn't care less about him.
@@dustinmaxwell259 My father was a husband to an ambitious woman, the father of two talented boys and three academically gifted daughters one of whom was a card carrying actuall genius. My father was a feminist, his mother had two degrees and struggled to find work because she was a woman and his father was not supportive of her ambition or her talents.
He raised us on the mantra of equality for all. That everyone should be able to go as far as their talents, ambition and hard work can take them,and to support each other. End of story. My brother did the same for his daughter and I have raised my son's to believe the same.
What did your father raise you to believe about black women and solidarity in the fight for equality, justice and enfranchisement?
In 2021 Hollywood produced 11 movies with female leads. Not a single one was a black woman. As a matter of fact of the movies Hollywood produced with black male leads, Tennant, king Richard, Judas and the black Messiah, etc not all of them had black women in them in any capacity. You tell me, what Hollywood motion picture had a black female lead in 2021, how about 2019.
Outside of the evening news, black women are dramatically under represented as leads in media production.
Where is black female support, you are kidding right, the anti lynching movement, the civil rights movement, the black lives matter movement, black women voted for Obama at twice the rate black men did. The majority of tickets purchased by black people to see the black panther were purchased by black women. Black women always show up for black men, they march in the streets for us, they seek justice for us, they fight for us even before we know there is a fight, you damn lie to say otherwise.
We were never fighting for a black James Bond , a black female media commentator in the UK came up with that one all on her own. She suggested Idris Elba, on good morning Britton . Weren't no black men doing any campaigning for it before her. There shouldn't be a black batman. Bruce Wayne's whiteness is intrinsic to that character. His is the reaction of a rich white man. It comes from a place of privilege that few black men could justify. We do however have a black robin at this time on the Teen Titans. And a black robin in waiting in the comics.
The numbers do not support your assertion of black women being used as replacement for black men. The MCU has 10 black male superheroes and only 3 black female superheroes. The numbers just don't support what you are claiming. The Arrow verse had only 4 , the DCU has none. The numbers do not support your assertions.
Ugh, and Grace sadly sounds like she's blinded by the whole "women empowerment" thing to even care that those of us who have a problem are hating that the MCU is willing to omit the comic book history of T'Challa! And She's supposed to be a comic reviewer, isn't she? SMDH!!
She written comics too.
I knew that first bp movie was gonna be the only good one. They made the ideal , long time coming epic black movie just to emotionally hook us.
The first movie was boring to me. Not all that, hope this one is better
Strong independent black woman:
Own house? = section 8 programs.
Own transportation? = other gov’t subsidies.
Own Income = child tax credits, stimulus checks per child, “child support,” various other gov’t, & non-gov’t organizations. *non essential worker income.
Why is it that you have a problem that lately they've been showing strong female roles and movies lately? Women help nurture in uplift humanity, so why is it a problem? There will be a world without women? Will there be a world without men? Women help uplift men, and men are supposed to help uplift women, we both need each other and make the world go around so I don't get what the big deal is. I mean we've been looking at movies for decades and decades with strong male characters were men kick ass all the time, why come in can't watch movies about the reversal?
The fact that they removed T’Challa the main character of the comics and the franchise is my issue Grace!!! This movie is pushing the side characters as a replacement for the main character, then why would I care?? If they removed Peter Parker Spider-Man from his own franchise I’m gone cause I don’t care anymore. Why in the world would I support this blatant disrespect to the character of T’Challa? It ain’t getting my money
New to this channel. This is an insightful breakdown, it sure does save me from all the rage by looking at what this new movie is from a proper perspective. "Its a chic flick" and it should be seen as such, same goes for all other marvel phase4 movies like it. And the Woman King too.
It's not a "chick flick", (the words " chick flick" feel just very excluding.) In fact in the movie, (how do you people make opinions based on two channels boggles me but I digress) M'Baku is the one to point out the idiotcy of Shuri's plan. She's not some god in the movie, she's has flaws the entire movie is about her dealing with her grief and learning to move on, (SPOILER ALERT HERE) and also her mother dies, due to Namor so she is willing to start an all out war and nearly kills her entire army, because she wants revenge for her mother. It's a great almost character study on everyone from Wakanda, and Riri nearly dies like five times over, she wasn't portrayed as so powerfully feminine there.
And I'm comfortable in my masculinity, to admit that movie is amazing.
@@notarktic5735 simp
Love that "I told you how to vote", don't know if that's legal
The girl at the beginning of the clip forgets who fixes her car and her roof and the roads and everything else when they stop working, lol. Independent goes out the window at that point
Also they were talking about replace tchala and making Shuri the black panther after the first movie. Boseman death just have them a good excuse to do it. Which is why they killed tchala in this movie instead of just replacing the actor. They could have at least given tchala 3 movies before replacing him with shuri!
as of today marvel has on screen or coming to screen sam Wilson as Captain America, war machine, blade, Luke cage, samuals Jackson as Nick fury in secret war, patriot, Hiemdal, m baku, Phastos, wonder man,. Black female heroes have so far been Monica Rambue and now possibly iron heart and a female black panther. So what the hell is y'all talking about. Black female representation is seriously lacking. Do black men hate black women so much, do you hate your mother's, sisters, daughters so much that you want them to continue to be invisible in this medium? It seems lately the only group black men have the strength to fight is black women. You won't get ahead by shoving black women down. All that will happen is eventually you will lose black women's support.
You sit on a throne of lies. One has to wonder why you are constantly lying about what transpired.
I wouldn’t want Chadwick replaced.
@@acewalker I think this film would have been too soon to replace Chadwick. The cast needed this film to mourn and honor their brother. But I do think it should be a possibility for future films.
No they weren't ryan coogler gave out the original script if boseman was still alive.
As female I’ve got nothing against having more female leads however my problem is when the movie is supposed to be focused on a male lead, it takes his spotlight away (and I relized this until Loki and Dr strange2, ❤️ Wanda by the way). Whats even ironic to me is for years I’ve been seeing complaints about how “Hollywood is dominated with white men” yet at the same time you have characters like Tchalla they can focus (recast).
as of today marvel has on screen or coming to screen sam Wilson as Captain America, war machine, blade, Luke cage, samuals Jackson as Nick fury in secret war, patriot, Hiemdal, m baku, Phastos, wonder man,. Black female heroes have so far been Monica Rambue and now possibly iron heart and a female black panther. So what the hell is y'all talking about. Black female representation is seriously lacking. Do black men hate black women so much that they want them to continue to be invisible in this medium? It seems lately the only group black men have the strength to fight is black women.
You do have other character like Riri, Storm (well she’s in X-men) etc, heck they could make a Captain Ramue solo movie, personally in my opinion even though Chadwick unfortunately died, they could’ve recasted him, actors don’t need to be the same as other actors how they portray character bc they have there own way bringing the character to life, we have seen this with James Bond, joker etc we haven’t spent that much time with the character and so many things he did in the comics we could’ve seen on screen, Tchalla could’ve at least had 3 trilogy movies and maybe the mantle could’ve been passed on Shuri but at the end the day I Still view Shuri as a side character, and if Black female representation is lacking on screen, they can revive the characters from the comics, and if it’s lacking in the comics, they can create original characters.
@@Femmeaesthetic the thing is, in the comics, Shuri becomes the black panther, it's source material Cannon. Now or later at some point she becomes the black panther. Regardless, that is not what this TH-cam is about, it's not about Chadwick, it's not about recasting it's not really about the black panther. It's starts with an attack on so called strong black women and it ends with one, it makes a non factual claim about black mail replacement and representation but this movie is just being used as a vehicle to attack black women and that is sad. Black women supported the first movie in record numbers, they didn't kill Chad and they didn't decide not to recast. I noticed how this tuber went on and one about what a nice white lady grace is, even though he doesn't agree with her and then went straight to bashing black women. This TH-cam is trash, the argument is fake and this is just another fake ass brother with black women hate issues. It's tired and played.
@@clementmckenzie7041 yup you got us black men hats black women or perhaps we don’t like seeing movies and characters we supported for decades be killed off and replaced for an audience that just became aware of them four years ago. And the major difference between this movie and the first one black women were depicted as strong and capable hell if you knew anything about the Tchalla character you would have known he was the super genius in the source material not Shuri. So in the first movie you get capable women warriors spies and a genius. What do black men get in this one? Seriously if you have a son or brother or any kind of black man you care about who is he suppose to see in that movie and be like damn now that’s someone I wish I was like.
@@Seancarter2010 I'm a black man, I have sons, a brother, nephews male cousins and a father. I also have sisters, nieces, grand nieces, and female cousins. I have been reading comics, what you call the source material since the 1970s . I know these characters like the back of my hand and have seen them evolve dramatically over time. What I want for the male members of my family I also want for the female members of my family equally. Most importantly I don't want the male members of my family to view black women through the same kind of lens that the black men on this channel view black women. I want for them what my father gave us, a view of black women as equal partners in life, love and the struggle for equality. Equal partners not junior partners, respected for who they are not what men want them to be in order to best serve male needs or goals. At present the black male super hero to black female superheroes ratio in the Marvel cinematic Universe does not do that. Luckily the black men who decide how these projects go at marvel, and Kevin's VPs in his division are two black men and a Latina, see that too. 13 black male heroes to four is inadequate. For however long latitia is the black panther, she hasn't signed her contract yet, will go a long way in showing both black boys and girls as exactly what is possible and how we can support, respect and love each other, just as it did in the source material when shuri became the Black panther for four years, during Tchalla illness. Where unlike in the movie she destroyed Atlantis and forced Namor to move it to a safer location. You are not going to see the movie so you will miss how Tchalla taught Shuri science and you are not really familiar enough with the comic to know that the Queen was once general of the Dora and taught her to fight since childhood or that her father taught her to rule should anything happen to her brother, in the comics Shuri is now combining magic and science on a Dr Doom level. What I want is for black men and black women to see each others worth and that is not going to happen while brothers are trying to force another group of adults into a submissive posture. It took thousands of years and a great deal of savage brutality and dehumanization for white men to beat their women into a state of submission where their very existence had no meaning outside of that assigned to it by a white man. A state of affairs no African society ever chose to inflict on it's female population prior to white colonization. A state white women have just begun to emerge from. Is that what you want for your sister's, daughters and nieces. Sometimes before taking a stance you gotta think it threw to it's logical outcome.
It's a year old, but I'm glad you were able to articulate my thoughts on the movie. It's exactly how I felt, leading up to the movie, except I wasn't excited to see it, and didn't bother to see it in theatres. I just watched it in a community screening, as I'm a community worker.
Nothing but the truth great breakdown! #TeamBlackMasculinist #RecastTchalla
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Thank you
I don't 100% agree with 100% of everything 100% of the time when it comes to these sorts of things, I'm more of an 87%er, but you sold me with that opening, I despise women like that and part of the reason I immediately dismissed both The Woman King and Wakanda Forever from the trailers alone is because that's their target audience and I immediately wanted nothing to do with that black and blue thing or her ilk
Wise choice
as of today marvel has on screen or coming to screen sam Wilson as Captain America, war machine, blade, Luke cage, samuals Jackson as Nick fury in secret war, patriot, Hiemdal, m baku, Phastos, wonder man,. Black female heroes have so far been Monica Rambue and now possibly iron heart and a female black panther. So what the hell is y'all talking about. Black female representation is seriously lacking. Do black men hate black women so much, do you hate your mother's, sisters, daughters so much that you want them to continue to be invisible in this medium? It seems lately the only group black men have the strength to fight is black women. You won't get ahead by shoving black women down. All that will happen is eventually you will lose black women's support.
@@clementmckenzie7041 lol be quiet
my family has nothing to do with this
don't project 🤣 it just makes you look even dumber than all this incomprehensible word vomit already does
trust me chump, I don't want the support of black women like the one featured at the beginning of this video
go white knight somewhere else
@@michellelincoln9987 lol, I didn't actually expect you to understand words. lol. that would have been an unreasonable expectation LMAO 🤣😜🤪😝
Great video, my brother. Loved the music in the background too!
"People before gender"!!!
But ALSO "70% women on screen, I'm a woman, yay women"
Modern black women just don't get that being loud doesn't work but they keep screaming.
a black panther movie without the main character. not sure how the usual demographic will find that interesting. i don't think they should have killed the character. Why couldn't they just not have off doing something else so that they can recast him later?
They should have left Black Panther alone and not make a sequel. It was perfect the way it was and a way to give a legacy to this great actor.
It was over a decade ago, that you spoke about the wall of silence. That wall of silence has been erected, and they are beginning to feel its effects. Special kudos for your "Dad I'm Scared" vid, all those years ago.
I was so disappointed in this movie if they don't fix everything in Black Panther 3 i'm done with Marvel
Meanwhile Thunderbolt Ross got recast with Harrison Ford after last actor passed away...🤨
I’m glad I didn’t see this movie because it’s way too women centric & it doesn’t promote positive benefits of black masculinity. It’s way too supportive of feminism & I fuckin hate any film that promotes feminism!lol,smfh REALTALK 😒😒😒…….
Truth be told, the 1st black panther film was on a woman's empowerment kick too. Tchaka killed his brother, he and Zuri abandoned Ndjaka instead of bringing him back with them, to cover the deception. Also Tchalla was more formidable and a better fighter in captain America civil war. In Wakanda forever, the woman's empowerment is just stronger. The 1st film didn't really do the male characters any favors.
And Wakabi was right he was a poor king no way he should have make killmonger outplay him in the throne toom like that.
Excellent vid!!!! 🔥🔥🔥💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾
Check out the book " The assassination of the black male image " You will think it was written today.
70% screen time?
This movies DOA.
Where are the black men?
Where r us.
This was ridiculous
Upsetting
Disappointed
What about the men
The energy is super aggressive and unnerving, disturbing even.
Indeed
I have three daughters and one son, now my son and my oldest daughter are both old enough to do their own thing but my two younger daughters keep begging me to go and see the movie with them that I’ve already watched on my laptop. I’ve been trying to tell them that I can’t do it because I’m at old school marvels comics fanatic and I did not like how this movie was done at all. I’ve been begging them to ask their mother to go take them to see the movie because I’m not going to the theater. There is enough of the emasculation of the Black man going on out there
His vote is his own. She is breaking the law. Intimidation & coercion.
The WS Programming of The Black Community is in FULL Effect !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
As a black man, I pass. Mavel's phase 4 is a disaster.
Wakanda forever = woman king vs aztec king.
When the first trailer dropped, I knew it was gonna be a female empowerment movie. No T'Challa, the bastardization of Namor and very little screen time for the men, it has M She U written all over it. I'll wait for D+.
You can’t exspect our enemies to help us we need to fund up and coming actors /movie makers so we can have the movies we need
Disney will never admit this, but acording to certain sources, it was NOT a success. More than one source has said Disney spent $250 on the budget and nearly as much on the advertising. That means the film had to break close to $1 Billion just to break even.
They can't sell any of the WF toys. Bob Iger tried a last ditch effort with China but we all know it won't make any money there. So, there goes that, "It would have hit $1 Billion it it had been in China" argument.
Listening to the audio alone, i would be hardpressed to be sure that first woman was a woman.
I listen to Grace Randolph's reviews. Usually she likes everything and will say good things about everything. That means if she's moved to say something negative...it's something really obvious. And even if she overall enjoys a movie from a feminist viewpoint, she will point out if the movie is unfair to men...I'll certainly give her that. Grace was stronger in her actual review about pointing out that Wakanda Forever was alienating to men.
The fact is, Chadwick died at the opportune moment for Disney's feminist agenda. Chadwick Boseman's death saved them from having to embarrassingly demasculinze Black Panther on screen the way they did Thor and Hulk.
The opening...Smh....just embarrasing...no hope. 😵💫
Yeah... Its unfortunate how common that behavior is.
agreed
it is unchecked and the Terrible degeneracy of the western world has thrown away every value system
Grace is not independent, she's working for deadline.
Wow, I didn't know that.
Ok well that's explains alot I didnt know either...
Womakanda for ever all the Black Men in Wakanda in jail...ain't this some shit!
I didn't know Ironheart was gonna be in there. Thanks for the warning. I also forget how long this has been going on. Thanks for the reminder.
You're welcome. Thanks for watching
Warning? What's wrong with iron heart?
as of today marvel has on screen or coming to screen sam Wilson as Captain America, war machine, blade, , samuals Jackson as Nick fury in secret war, patriot, Hiemdal, m baku, Phastos, wonder man,. Black female heroes have so far been Monica Rambue and now possibly iron heart and a female black panther. So what the hell is y'all talking about. Black female representation is seriously lacking. Do black men hate black women so much, do you hate your mother's, sisters, daughters so much that you want them to continue to be invisible in this medium? It seems lately the only group black men have the strength to fight is black women. You won't get ahead by shoving black women down. All that will happen is eventually you will lose black women's support.
@@clementmckenzie7041 There's Misty Knight from Luke cage, Storm from X-men, Domino from deadpool, okoye from black panther who they've made a main character and can classify as a hero at this point add that to the ones you listed above.
@@killmongerC-137 I am sorry when did , storm, Domino or misty appear in a an MCU movie?? When are they slated to appear in an MCU movie? Does this mean that I get to add Luke cage and other non MCU appearing black men hero's to my list? It would be great I'f okoye became a lead character, but she is not, and they have expressed no plans to make her one. Deni has just signed a major deal with walking dead, so it's not in the cards.
Nope I won't because putting down one gender to elevate another isn't something I support.
as of today marvel has on screen or coming to screen sam Wilson as Captain America, war machine, blade, Luke cage, samuals Jackson as Nick fury in secret war, patriot, Hiemdal, m baku, Phastos, wonder man,. Black female heroes have so far been Monica Rambue and now possibly iron heart and a female black panther. So what the hell is y'all talking about. Black female representation is seriously lacking. Do black men hate black women so much, do you hate your mother's, sisters, daughters so much that you want them to continue to be invisible in this medium? It seems lately the only group black men have the strength to fight is black women. You won't get ahead by shoving black women down. All that will happen is eventually you will lose black women's support.
Sisters have been like this since the 60s, Angela Davis. Black Panthers changed gun laws. Grand Pop, hit the ground running!? Only thing running in my sons and grand sons are the mouth!? Action!? Don't get me wrong, but you voted GOP which you alienated all of my contacts by going to their competitors. We put this thing together, not you!? Women got major pay!? You got the same rights as black women, my granddaughters!? I am proud of them.
black panther scholarships were made for black female students. again to redu ce black male leadership.
Ridiculous wig? ✔
Giraffe eyelashes? ✔
Overweight? ✔
Fake Sabretooth claws? ✔
Loud and obnoxious? ✔
And this is why you all will FOREVER be at the bottom
Wow, I'd feel sorry for anyone dumb enough to have a relationship with the blue haired woman at the beginning. Damn.
It's an award-winning screenplay.
More stable black wimen then black men, WHERE?
This is the reason I don't watch Grace Randolf any more. So if I don't want to see this film there is something wrong with me? I'm not interested in this film because Disney is a shit company that no longer creates good media.
From a woman with Blue hair, talk like a dude, and is not married. 😆 Man some of these black women take advice from anybody. 😆 You can tell she probably has been ran through.And instead of telling her daughter , not to make the same mistakes she made.It seem she is setting her up for failure.
Telling her daughter to provide her own stability is setting her up for failure? Really? Without those women you hate, the black community would have died out. While they were learning to toughen up in order to provide for families, what were black men doing for the community? Truth is truth black men have spent the last five generations doing everything but being good examples for the community. They have been creating children they had no interest in, and no intention of supporting filling the airwaves with music that is violent and demeaning to women, flooding the drugs,and going straight to jail. You want to know why black women had to toughen up, so that their children wouldn't starve. So that their would be a protector and provider in their house, them. So you can hate them all you want but they were necessary, irresponsible black men made them necessary.
@@clementmckenzie7041 The black community is in the bad shape it is in because mostly of black women. Nobody is telling these toxic black women to have children with men they ate not married to.Some of these women don't even know who their children father is.For one i never said that this woman in the video, shouldn't tell her daughter to take care of herself. So you are putting words in my mouth. If her daughter is grown, then she have to work and make a living for herself. It's called being grown. 80 percent of the children born in the black community, are born out of wedlock. These toxic black women will open their legs to a man who will not marry them, or commit to them, as long as they like him.Women control access to sex, not men.No one is forcing these women to have sex with Men who are not their husbands. The black community is going foward because of black Men, not black women. Most black women are turning young black boys into sissies, and turning their daughters into masculine, unsubmissive, combative, hateful, disrespectful, mean spirited women like themselves. So how is that holding up the black community?😆
I'm done with the MCU. They didn't recast the character because they don't want to many straight strong black men in their movies. This movie is all about black girl magic and they will probably push the LGBT agenda.
She doesn't understand that it's a medium for men and she also doesn't see that afro American men are underrepresented in film and media.
as of today marvel has on screen or coming to screen sam Wilson as Captain America, war machine, blade, Luke cage, samuals Jackson as Nick fury in secret war, patriot, Hiemdal, m baku, Phastos, wonder man,. Black female heroes have so far been Monica Rambue and now possibly iron heart and a female black panther. So what the hell is y'all talking about. Black female representation is seriously lacking. Do black men hate black women so much, do you hate your mother's, sisters, daughters so much that you want them to continue to be invisible in this medium? It seems lately the only group black men have the strength to fight is black women. You won't get ahead by shoving black women down. All that will happen is eventually you will lose black women's support.
@@clementmckenzie7041 I don't think you watch or read enough to understand you're wrong. Again it's a medium for men and boys. They've got representation. Storm, valkerie, vixen, thunder and lightning on a show supposed to be about their father, they dumbed down t'challa for shuri, catwoman and lots more so what are you talking about? Most afro American women don't care about the genre in the first place.
@@lunarnature412 I don't think you have a clue what most black women are interested in. The majority of tickets bought by black people for the original black panther movie was purchased by black women. In the MCU there are a total of 4 black female superheroes. For years there were none. Brothers lobbied for black female representation not at all. We never do. Where as black men are adequately represented and have more representation on the way. My mother gave me my first comic book to encourage me to read, I have three sisters they all were comics fans. Most of the black women I have dated had at least a passing interest in comics. But even more importantly black women show up for pro black projects, regardless of if it's their thing or not. They didn't dumb down Tchalla he is still a genius, shuri was just smarter. She is in the comics also. She wasn't a better black panther when she was the black panther in the comics but she a better ruler of Wakanda. It's really a shame black men just can't bring themselves to show up for black women the same way they consistently show up for us. eventually it's gonna cost us.
@@clementmckenzie7041 I'm basing it on facts not personal anecdotes and one particular circumstance. I'm not going to argue with you. This is what I've been looking into for the last 15 years. You can't tell me what I've researched and see for myself. You completely ignored what I've said.
@@lunarnature412 I ignored what you said because it's not based infact or reality, so I had no need to respond to flights of fantasy.
My sister's are lost!!! Smh
If women go see it, it will make money…
Yep look at Tyler Perry
...an example of a strong Black man...?
Black women don't get that this make them to look less desirable then other women. Men are attracted to feminine women, even more Black men, that values masculinity the most. Then they ask why men in general go after women that talk sweet and seductive. Black women, start to combat this narrative. You are the only one that can change it. Don't let the lesbians who are dating lesbian white women lead you to the place hollywood is trying to place you all in.
Between the argumentative and "strong" Black woman on the dating market and films like this, I just can't deal with it as a Black man. The feminist movement has faults that need to be addressed.
I think black women should go on, and be strong and independent. Conquer the world sister bye-bye 👋🏽
My apologies about music being unbearable. I tagged the wrong video. I hope you accept my sincere regret. Keep up the excellent work
You're good. Thanks for your support
Listening to those black women go karen at the beginning gave me the biggest headache
You are thoughtful & correct.
Thank you sir
What!!?? DF are you talkin about? You out here coonin bruh the Movie is fire 🔥
Our beloved Chadwick is dead, RIP. Now get another heroic Black MALE actor and let's continue. When Christopher Reeves got crippled from his horse they got another SUPERMAN. They've gone through 8 BATMANs, so what's the problem with BLACK PANTHER?
If it doesn't matter to you what a ninja say then you will never be a wife.
People are paying to watch black panther, not shuri overcoming her sadness for almost 3 hours
Phase 4 also known as the M-She-U…it will make you ask wtf were they thinking?
India Irie has a song called Come Back to the Middle and that's what they need to do in Hollywood to find some middle ground. And not for nothing, I may be seen in real life 2 men peck lips once maybe twice, and have yet to see a 90 lb woman choke slam, and beat up any man without the man showing restraint, ijs.
The BC was destroyed years ago. These movies, The Skittles, and violence are only making sure it stays destroyed. 💯👊🏽
I yield!!! I mean submit to a 100 pound Black Panther… That was basically the point.. The Women standing over the Man to kill him the only way to live was to say the word that mean submission. “yield”
#RecastTChalla also, phase 4 isn't a total disaster, at least we got, "no way home" and "Shang-Chi" and helped the Asian American community cause asians in the west is invisible, especially asain men, now the black male community understand how the Asian male community feels when we get shunned for Asian women and "yellow fetish" and the strong Asian woman stereotype.
My guy miss me with that nonsense. We literally bleed for our right to be represented and we do it to be represented in a way that everyone doesn’t look at us like criminals. If the cost of being invisible was having the highest earning population along with the most feminine females in the world I would gladly trade places. Quit complain
@@Seancarter2010 no way, you just being some self centered fool, go back to school mongral and taking your representation for granted idiot
Bro, you guys have the whole K-pop scene and anime scene on your d*cks. Girls all over the world drooling over you all Idols. Damn, even the black community loves you all characters, like Bruce Lee, Jackie Chan, Goku etc. What are you talking about. In other way, black men only have the american cinema to represent them in a good light around the world, and we get almost nothing these days. But Trap music...I said in a positive way.
I couldn't quite put my finger on why I don't like this movie. I just realized. It's because of Shuri! She can literally do anything. Hard to root for someone like that.
Who tf is the "taskmaster" ? His special powers is to change his sex ? I've never heard of this super hero
I wasn't really excited for the sequel. They didn't recast Chadwick, all the male characters from the first movie are barely in it, I read the review and hated how they honored tchalla. Oh and in the end they made him a dead baby daddy smdh.
Woman king was amazing black panther was amazing....I feel in general males are sexiest they feel superior to women ...I came from woman so I will forever hold high regard to women..
a year later, still haven't watched this movie and have no desire to, just like the woman queen.
I really don’t count Sam Wilson’s Captain America as a male superhero for African Americans only for the fans of Captain America can really appreciate her character but outside him are there any BLACK MALE characters that we can look up too who aren’t derived from another established character,
In the media I see more pro black girl in tech than I do anywhere? Where are the black males at? Something ain’t right with how we and out black boys are represented in the media it’s very little and it’s truly concerning
Translating Grace:
Woman King failed cos marketed as "women centric"
WF succeeds cos "his women centric behind mourn porn"
Yeah it's dead for us in they world we're almost none relevant as real men if you let them tell it
The M-SHU- U can bleed out of it's monthly cycle.