Yeah the people that should be taking the heat for it is you Brian Deegan and Star Yamaha. You guys did that kid dirty. Trying to get Yamaha involved to pull his sponsors franchise. That's dirty. Brendan followed the rules you agreed to race to.
Super disappointing to hear how this went down. Brian, I have always been a fan and help support this movement but I’m just a little unsure now.. mostly about how much is spoken about faith in your vids but then stuff like this goes down behind the scenes. That kid got completely bullied and taken advantage of over deception and greed. You are the adult and this falls on you to make it right. Sorry brother but that’s the cold hard truth. You need to make it right with that kid, straight up 🙏👍✌️
The Deegans are just pawns of Yamaha and do what ever has to be done to keep the cash cow. Brendan played within the rules, but showed, the powers to be are really running the show. As George Carlin would say “And you aren’t part of it”.
Yeh Brians litter clip at the end just made him look a dick, saying trying to use his name to make money & being dirty etc. Think Brennans claim was legit and I think what he said was happening was legit.
It's a well dodgy rule. Who in this world want to claim next man's ride.. skanky rat.. work hard win races and get decent ride.. 15 years seat time is for sure leading to a factory deal.. race um not re home um 💯👌🏻🤘🏻
Bike claim= pay up get the bike that simple. I don’t believe Brian Deegan should’ve called up star racing and let them call Canada Yamaha and threaten this kids sponsorship with Yamaha. That’s why he didn’t go through with the claim which is so bs. The kid should 100% be in Possession of haidens bike. Simple as this, don’t bring a factory pro bike to a amateur race were someone can claim it. Definitely unsubscribing due to Brian deegans actions not haidens.
I have been following you guys for the past couple of years and until last week was really looking forward to Haiden turning pro. That's all gone now and it isn't because of Haiden. Brian, What I really would like to know is how do you feel about ruining any hopes and dreams that an unknown B rider had yanked out from under him. I mean, we're talking about a B class rider! All they have are hopes and dreams. Were you really worried about this young man damaging Haiden's or your reputation? I don't think that young man could've damaged you and your kingdom any at all. I still look forward to watching Haiden just will no longer be following your Youube channel.
well said mate. i think the recent dramas are very unnecessary, and it would be good to get an official statement from the deegans. a rule is a rule. still a fan and have been for my whole life but when shit hits the fan, it needs to be dealt with, and this shmozzle looks really bad at the moment
I watched an interview with the kid that made the claim. Please comment on Yamaha USA putting pressure on that kid's sponsor Yamaha dealership. Yamaha USA told that dealer if the kid follows through on the claim Yamaha USA would no longer supply bikes to that dealership. WOW talk about pressure on a 17 year old kid. He was forced to drop the claim otherwise he loses his sponsorship and that dealership has to close its doors forever. I am not saying the Deegan's wanted this to happen but that is some shady stuff. The kid was also saying that Haiden kept asking over and over who was behind him wanting to claim the bike. It looks like there was something to hide by not wanting someone else to have the bike. The claim is a rule, and the kid would of had bought the bike if Yamaha USA didn't put pressure on his sponsor. I am a Haiden fan and not saying the Deegan's are the ones putting the screws to the other kid but overall this doesn't look good.
Same Feeling. I've been a fan for a long time. You guys did that kid dirty he claimed the bike and you railroaded him. It's an amature race and the rule is to prevent rich kids/ factory riders from riding a $40k bike and having an obvious advantage Msrp times 2 is all you should be riding at this event.
YAHMAHA SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF THERSELVES, IF INFACT THEY PUT PRESSURE ON THE KIDS YAHMAHA SPONSOR UP IN CANADA!!!! THE KID DIDNT GET THE BIKE BECAUSE OF THAT REASON!!!! HE HAS STATED REALLY PISS POOR SITUATION TO PUT A 17 YEAR OLD KID IN. JUST MY OPINION...... IT IS A RULE TO LEVEL THE PLAYING FIELD.... A BUNCH OF B. S. AGAING JUST MY OPINION.....
Lost a lot of respect for the Deegan’s and Yamaha for what went down at Loretta’s. That is some shady shit cornering and essentially threatening a minor. Then Yamaha calling and putting the squeeze on his sponsors to drop him unless he does away with the bike claim. Check the link below to see Brandon’s full interview: th-cam.com/video/8ZkJU8-IxMY/w-d-xo.html
Literally tracked down a 17 year old KID'S ONLY sponsor and threatened them and the KIDS future over a bike, That if isn't a factory ride should be no problem.
I have followed this channel for a long time and will no longer that was a dirty deal on all parts from family team and Yamaha. It does not matter if the kid was going to sell out every star “secret” or just wanted to play with the bike it’s a ama race that you and star put yourself into and both should if you don’t know the rules
Haiden is fast and has a bright future but your making excuses. A claim is a claim. If I ran our quarter horse in a race with claiming rules I wouldn’t put a $100,000 horse in it unless I expected it to be taken. Hand the bike over wash your hands get another star bike and move on.
All things considered, this was Yamaha that put Haiden and the Deegan name in this position. Haiden is currently a factory amateur racer..he races the bike the factory tells him to. That said, he's out at the ranch on a Works bike..claiming rules apply. It was YAMAHA that didn't want THEIR 50k+ Works bike claimed.. The way Yamaha handled that by threatening this kids main sponsor (a Yamaha dealer) was shitty, and that tarnishes the Deegan brand as though the rules don't apply to them, because they are Deegans. So now it looks like they "got away" with something. The rule is simple, pay double the MSRP and that bike is yours, or the rider gets suspended for a year. I don't want to see Haiden suspended, OR his name tarnished... this was YAMAHAs f-up having him on a Works bike, and it is they who should take 100% of the blame for any ill feelings involved with this. The Deegans aren't gonna come out and say this about their factory ride...but I can..
I can't believe they left the comments up for this video. The amount of hero worshiping happening with the deegans is incredible. The reality is they went to an amateur race with a factory bike and got caught with their hand in the cookie jar. When that happened they (the whole star/ yamaha/ Deegan camp) used their power to bully the kid out of the claim and then on top of cause him to lose his sponsors. You're fooling yourselves if you think it's as simple as brian made it seem on this video, remember, he puts out what he wants you to see.
Yea its all good and let's move on, sure because u got your way. The kid wanted to ride a factory bike. Maybe the rules need changing but until then the kid bought it and then got bullied out of it. Make the rule triple msrp. Or eliminate it completely.
First, let me say, I am a huge fan of the Deegans, I really admire and have so much respect for all of them, which also made this whole incident really disappointing. Its unreal reading all of the comments about how, of course Yamaha doesnt want to hand a bike over that they have spent hundreds of hours building and testing. People seem so ignorant, or just dont take the time to think about it. The WHOLE reason the claim rule exists is so people DONT bring bikes that have had hundreds of hours of building and testing, to an Amateur race, to make the field more level. Somehow, people dont understand something so simple. Yamaha should have NEVER brought a bike to the track that they werent prepared to get claimed, its just so dumb, a serious mistake on their part. With Haiden being so popular, and running the lap times he was, I would be real surprised if it wasnt claimed. This rider that made the claim should have never been in an office being drilled by adults about why he wanted the bike, without his parents there, its just wrong, and it was disappointing that when Brian saw this, he didn't put a stop to it, I am sure he would never want Haiden in the same position. The rider that put in the claim doesn't have to explain why he wants it, or what he plans to do with it, or where he got the money, to anyone, its no ones business, unless he wants to explain. It was so wrong the way he was questioned, he had the right to it, according to the rules, and if he wants to run it off a cliff, or sell it on Ebay, or set it on fire, thats 100% his choice. People complain saying its a stupid rule, you don't bring that up after an incident, if you don't like the rules, don't race, if you do race, abide by the rules, and if you want the rule changed, work on it, outside of an incident. If you get caught, pay the price. I really admire how Brian and the Mrs do so much to raise their kids right, but in this situation I would have expected Brian to show Haiden that when your caught, you pay the price, and do the right thing, you abide by the rules, not that you use your backing, support, and power, to get around rules that apply to everyone. Yamaha really messed up by bringing a bike to race that they had so much invested in, and its obvious thats the case. It was really dumb to run a bike that has special parts, or tens of thousands of dollars invested when there's a claim rule, and they gambled with the rules and took a risk, and lost, and then refused to pay the price for their actions. I mainly blame Yamaha for bringing a bike they cant risk losing to race in a race with the claim rule, but the way this mess was handled by Yamaha, RacerX, AMA, and even Brian, was just wrong, and really disappointing, they made a huge mistake and instead of just paying the price, they used their power to get out of it, like the rules don't apply to them. I am firm believer in that when you F up, its better to just pay the price, get past it, and move on, rather than weasel your way out of it but this is a major F up by Yamaha and would have been a hefty price to pay. The worst part is, after the bike is given back to Yamaha and the Deegans, this can never be fixed, ever. There is good that will come out of this though, you won't see any high dollar Factory bikes in amateur races that have this claim rule again, they wont gamble, and take this risk again, which is a good thing. Haiden could of ran a stock bike and still won, hes that good, and if it got claimed you could just laugh at the rider wasting his money on a claim.
Its a douche move and and an unspoken rule that you just don't be a douche. That's why you've never seen it done before. It's not just about the money and a factory team could care less about the actual bike value. Racing is a competitive sport and everyone has their own recipe for winning so of course you wouldn't want your trade secrets out there. Hell even if the edge is just in the tune why should anyone have access to the tune you've spent 1000's of hours to perfect?
@@cknorris3644 It has been done before, and it has also been done in auto racing, but who cares what has been done before. Your missing the whole point of the rule, you don't bring a bike that has "trade secrets", you don't bring a bike that has thousands of hours in it, to a race that has the claim rule, that's just dumb, and Yamaha gambled with it, it was a bad move but even worse was how it was handled afterwards. If you don't like the rule, don't race, if you do race, expect to follow the rules, its quite simple. I guarantee you that the majority of the riders in amateur racing, want this rule, but its the few people with unlimited funds and teams of people doing R&D that don't want the rule, understandably. Of course there should never be a rule like this in the Pros, but this is amateur racing where to many people, it makes sense.
It doesn’t matter if you had more races on it or not, or sentimental value or not, an AMA rule is an AMA rule, or the fact it had secret parts in it. Then you shouldn’t have had those parts in it. However, once again, power prevails when you threaten people. Sad.
Bryan is the master at putting the blame back on everyone else and then acting like its your fault for something he did. Definitely bad look for yamaha.
I love you guys but i think star yamaha and its back supports went way wrong on it! You cant just blow that off, he didnt need the mechanical help. That falls on star yamaha for being so ignorant towards Amateur racing!
The entire Deegan family should do the right thing and step away from the sport as soon as possible. The doubt spun around this scenario will only serve to rupture anything good the sport has going for it. Nobody gets to participate in acts like these and come away unscathed. If the sport doesn’t recognize self evident truths, then maybe a look at some empty seats will serve notice to them. This will empty seats.
Rules don't apply to Brian Deegan. Had Haiden lost the race Brian would have taken the winner in a room and asked them "why are you doing this". Mafia threatens winner to hand over 1st place to Deegan.
Please shed some light on the situation fully, of what happened with the bike claim. We would all really like to know more about the closed door conversation between you and the claiming party. We would all like to give you the benefit of the doubt, but the story has two sides and we need to hear both. In a sport driven by the fans and moto enthusiasts, the light needs to be shed.
Brian is a snake. Doubt hed let haiden talk in a closed room while being interrogated. Dont want your bike claimed, dont bring a factory bike to race armatures. Pretty simple.
Brian, The biggest takeaway from these videos of Haiden’s progression toward world dominance is your parenting. The basis of success in any field is family. Inspirational !!! From one father to another, SPOT ON MATE 👍
well done. but you need to think about how the claim situation happened. with yamaha and star racing bullying the buyer of the bike to withdraw the claim. something not right here
Brian you should be ashamed of yourself. Hope you feel real tough conducting yourself as you did at an amateur event and I hope you feel like a big man for using handover or standover tactics on a 17 year old. Your children have no hope in life being good people after being first hand witnesses to your shady way of doing business and I feel sorry for them. Just proves my point that money doesn't buy morals.
If the Claim was no big deal then yall should have given up the Bike ! Also You mr deegan was yelling at a Boy without his Parent there, you had him cornered and thats BS ! If that was your son you would be pissed. Yall are def hiding something in that bike or you would have let it go !
Really disappointing to see all this go down! That kid deserves that bike and yall bullied him and his sponsors and now that kid has to find new bikes cause yall can't handle the rules! Shouldn't have brought a bike like that if you didn't want to lose it!
The old man may be a physocapath, only a full confession and apology will save his butt at this point. After that give the Canadian kid the dam bike.....for free!
Lost a lot of respect for you Brian. The way you handled the bike claim situation is ridiculous. I'm not even going to get to the details of what went down but the truth comes out one way or another.
th-cam.com/video/8ZkJU8-IxMY/w-d-xo.html. video to kid describing his story on how it went down. Surprised how this hit me too. I was a huge fan of these guys.
I think the whole claiming a bike rule is lame! If you want a fast bike then go buy a bike, take it to a motor builder and give him $10k and say I want this thing to scream! Don’t take another riders bike because you wanna ride it on your TH-cam channel! You can get graphics and everything else to make your bike look just like Deegans! If you are jealous then go train your ass off like Haiden and get yourself a ride from one of the big teams! I just think the whole thing was lame to begin with! Get rid of that stupid rule! All it does is create drama at the amateur races! With the moto dads, there should be enough drama for everyone to enjoy! Go watch the 50 class! 200 protests after just one moto! Dads fighting with other dads because their kid beat so and so’s kid! The Deegans are a great family! Like I said before, Haiden doesn’t work on the motors! He doesn’t work on the bike at all! Star Yamaha provides him a bike and tells him to go win. That’s what the kid does! WIN! He also busts his ass training! You can’t buy talent or speed! You work day in and day out like Haiden does! And all you Haters always need some drama to latch onto! Go somewhere else and hate! IMO the Deegan family is great! Except Hudson, he’s a work in progress! 🤣🤣🤣 Just kidding Huck! 👍🏻👍🏻🤣🤣
The last time i watched Armature Nationals with any real interest, my friend Erik Kehoe was getting ready to go pro. I was born with the Slow Gene and as a life time novice its just awesome no matter how you see it. Haden's is good for the sport and nobody loves the sport more than that family.
Good luck in future but amateur races are for the up and comers to showcase talent which was proven with the W. But after what went down can’t stick with it or with Yamaha. Keep working hard and good luck in the future.
DIRTY!???!! Lmao that is Hilarious @Brian The only thing Dirty about this Entire Situation is Everything that was done to this kid. You Bullied him, Yamaha Bullied him, threatened him and his sponsor. A bunch of Grown ass men throwing a Tantrum. Every single one of you just got out classes by a 17 year old Kid from Canada. Embarrassing.. Go watch the kids interview.
Ok, evidently I'm a lucky winner of a prize for my comment. Let me be clear with another comment here, not sure who ever is up to what ever. I'm am anxious to watch Haiden enter into the pro ranks and dominate! I am bummed to see his father, who's name and the word controversy, have always been a thing. Haiden will do positive things for the sport. He's has respect that his father never had. I'd hate to see Brian tromping around through Haiden's career leaving a wake of destruction behind. Focus on Huck and don't ever threaten to claim another riders bike again hypocrite! OR stay home and take care of your wife, watch TV, cut the lawn, what ever.
Ya look fast smooth and relaxed on that Yamahaiden Dude Nice Win Hudson you look great on your bike too Got that shred in Ya Great lookin' shirts Bri Save me one XL Don't tell anyone They're seeding the clouds again😎
Nope they never did. Brian is a snake. Calls everyone else a sell out when he is a sell out. They raced Star Yamaha's with factory works, then destroyed a kids life when he called them out on it. Grade A low life Brian Deegan is.
Who cares what he wanted to do with the bike. It's an AMA rule. When you show up, you follow their rules no? Also why would you care if he monotizes the content from the bike. Haiden ends every video with "shop deegan 38", this chanel is monotized, and you use your follower count every time you discuss sponsorships. That's the game. It's not the kid who claimed the bikes responsibility to worry about what Haiden will ride the next 3 races. Or if it's his last amateur bike. All of what you said is irrelevant and you all look like chumps for bullying a 17 year old kid.
Claim process is bad in its current rule. Claim should be made, bike pulled by AMA and handed over. Period, done deal. Look at circle track racing, engines get claimed and handed over. Time to unsubscribe
You know what you did to that kid was wrong you have to help him! because of your reaction to this whole thing the kid has lost everything not a good look for your brand or your sponsors I think you know the risks of the rule and you chose to bully your way out rather than respect the rules if you don't like the rules don't race! Shocking behavior from yourself nothin to do with Haden but what you and the team did was 100% wrong
Well done, but the true test will be to see how he runs against other factory bikes. If he can smoke the pipe then Star Yamaha will get my respect back.
Anyone else done with The Deegans?? I think Brian definitely handled the claiming deal the wrong way. He pretty much trashed the kids reputation and his motocross career. I’m done with them. Bye Bye Deegans.
Haiden is good no matter what he rides. However you Brian Deegan and Yamaha bullied a kid into not claiming the bike. Sad day for the General to have to be involved with a youth rider alone in a room. I love Yamaha but I'm unbelievably disappointed in them and Brian.
I’ve been a fan of the deegans for a long time and all I can say is you bullied that kid out of that bike that he was rightfully entitled to just because you have the money in the cloud and the Pham doesn’t mean you can push people down and now get his sponsor taken away your a poor role model to the sport
out of all the people they take haidens bike and it's literally just because he's famous as I'm sure someone out there had a factory bike that's not a Yamaha
Are the Deegans talented hands down. Do they have endless support 1000% but to do what you did to that kid was sad. Brian didn't you start metal militia cause of sponsor bullies and now your the bully to a kid. Being a huge fan since the 90s I have lost all respect for you. And I know that doesn't mean anything to you cause who am I.
Hey Brian why'd you delete your live straight lying about the motor builder being the one who came up with the money. That kid has pay stubs to prove it buddy.
There’s a whole bunch of bottom feeders trying to burn you guys and destroyed the sport of Supercross and motocross a bunch a left wing nut cases they’ve destroyed every other sport it’s absolutely ridiculous hang in there God bless you guys Bless us all
Great stuff y'all! Don't worry about the sore losers. Bennick is right there with Haiden in all the races but nobody's questioning him are they? To me it just looks like the two training together is steel sharpening steel. Keep it going!
if you have an instagram, make sure you comment kind messages on haiden's recent post! lets show them the love that they deserve, the deegans that we all love are getting unreasonable hate for twisted lies, just a bump in the road of life though, we know they and we deegan fans will come out stronger than ever!!!
Yeah the people that should be taking the heat for it is you Brian Deegan and Star Yamaha. You guys did that kid dirty. Trying to get Yamaha involved to pull his sponsors franchise. That's dirty. Brendan followed the rules you agreed to race to.
@MBN networktv He knew the rules. He's threatened to claim other kids bikes. And they've been caught cheating before.
Super disappointing to hear how this went down.
Brian, I have always been a fan and help support this movement but I’m just a little unsure now.. mostly about how much is spoken about faith in your vids but then stuff like this goes down behind the scenes.
That kid got completely bullied and taken advantage of over deception and greed. You are the adult and this falls on you to make it right.
Sorry brother but that’s the cold hard truth.
You need to make it right with that kid, straight up 🙏👍✌️
The Deegans are just pawns of Yamaha and do what ever has to be done to keep the cash cow. Brendan played within the rules, but showed, the powers to be are really running the show. As George Carlin would say “And you aren’t part of it”.
Yeh Brians litter clip at the end just made him look a dick, saying trying to use his name to make money & being dirty etc.
Think Brennans claim was legit and I think what he said was happening was legit.
It's a well dodgy rule. Who in this world want to claim next man's ride.. skanky rat.. work hard win races and get decent ride.. 15 years seat time is for sure leading to a factory deal.. race um not re home um 💯👌🏻🤘🏻
"At the end of the day it went down, its fine."? Lost alot of respect bro. Unsubscribed.
Unsubing and done with the deegans... shame on Brian for intimidating a minor at LLs..... and shame on haiden for his part in all this... #done
You also have no proof and didn’t ask for any. You are literally the definition of a sheep
Bike claim= pay up get the bike that simple. I don’t believe Brian Deegan should’ve called up star racing and let them call Canada Yamaha and threaten this kids sponsorship with Yamaha. That’s why he didn’t go through with the claim which is so bs. The kid should 100% be in Possession of haidens bike. Simple as this, don’t bring a factory pro bike to a amateur race were someone can claim it. Definitely unsubscribing due to Brian deegans actions not haidens.
Should have just let the kid have the bike he did pay for it
I have been following you guys for the past couple of years and until last week was really looking forward to Haiden turning pro. That's all gone now and it isn't because of Haiden. Brian, What I really would like to know is how do you feel about ruining any hopes and dreams that an unknown B rider had yanked out from under him. I mean, we're talking about a B class rider! All they have are hopes and dreams. Were you really worried about this young man damaging Haiden's or your reputation? I don't think that young man could've damaged you and your kingdom any at all. I still look forward to watching Haiden just will no longer be following your Youube channel.
The kid who tried claiming haidens bike tried doing it just because haiden was faster, old pictures has shown this
This is no an airport. No need to announce your departure
well said mate. i think the recent dramas are very unnecessary, and it would be good to get an official statement from the deegans. a rule is a rule. still a fan and have been for my whole life but when shit hits the fan, it needs to be dealt with, and this shmozzle looks really bad at the moment
@@davidbjorkholm310 your comment makes no sense
Carey Corder you plonka
Greasy… that’s was greasy what you did deegans…
You shouldn't have threatened the boy that was buying the bike. He should have gotten the bike.
Nobody even knows if they threatened him it was behind closed doors get your facts straight
@@broplayz15if “nobody knows” then it can’t be fact SF
AMA should remove that Rule! It’s all log roll politics…unfortunately the next legend is being involved. Sham on AMA for this
I watched an interview with the kid that made the claim. Please comment on Yamaha USA putting pressure on that kid's sponsor Yamaha dealership. Yamaha USA told that dealer if the kid follows through on the claim Yamaha USA would no longer supply bikes to that dealership. WOW talk about pressure on a 17 year old kid. He was forced to drop the claim otherwise he loses his sponsorship and that dealership has to close its doors forever. I am not saying the Deegan's wanted this to happen but that is some shady stuff. The kid was also saying that Haiden kept asking over and over who was behind him wanting to claim the bike. It looks like there was something to hide by not wanting someone else to have the bike. The claim is a rule, and the kid would of had bought the bike if Yamaha USA didn't put pressure on his sponsor. I am a Haiden fan and not saying the Deegan's are the ones putting the screws to the other kid but overall this doesn't look good.
Should have been an easy bike to replace rather than tarnish a kids rep!!!
Same Feeling. I've been a fan for a long time. You guys did that kid dirty he claimed the bike and you railroaded him. It's an amature race and the rule is to prevent rich kids/ factory riders from riding a $40k bike and having an obvious advantage Msrp times 2 is all you should be riding at this event.
Disgraceful the way your team handled this situation. Kid lost his sponsorship anyway after pulling the claim. Make it right.
Bringing a full factory bike to an amateur event! SMH 🤦🏻♂️ Intimidating a 17 yr old that claimed the bike! Not a good look guys!
Shady as hell if the kid had the cash, give him the bike!! It’s the rules
Agree
his engine builders cash. Hope he paid the taxes on the transfer, its the rules
I swear some of yall font know what ur talkin abt
how canadian could rider with 18k in cash gor through the border
Because he trains and earned the money in the U.S.
Lost respect for Brian and star. Brian wouldn’t want some grown men interrogating his kids without being in the room
You guys broke the rules, and just lost a long time supporter of your channel.
Only thing I think that was kinda FUp was Yamaha going after that kids sponsor
YAHMAHA SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF THERSELVES, IF INFACT THEY PUT PRESSURE ON THE KIDS YAHMAHA SPONSOR UP IN CANADA!!!! THE KID DIDNT GET THE BIKE BECAUSE OF THAT REASON!!!! HE HAS STATED REALLY PISS POOR SITUATION TO PUT A 17 YEAR OLD KID IN. JUST MY OPINION...... IT IS A RULE TO LEVEL THE PLAYING FIELD.... A BUNCH OF B. S. AGAING JUST MY OPINION.....
Way to bully a kid who's just following the rules when clearly the Deagans and star do not. Not a good look.
Lost a lot of respect for the Deegan’s and Yamaha for what went down at Loretta’s. That is some shady shit cornering and essentially threatening a minor. Then Yamaha calling and putting the squeeze on his sponsors to drop him unless he does away with the bike claim. Check the link below to see Brandon’s full interview:
th-cam.com/video/8ZkJU8-IxMY/w-d-xo.html
Literally tracked down a 17 year old KID'S ONLY sponsor and threatened them and the KIDS future over a bike, That if isn't a factory ride should be no problem.
The kids sponsor dropped him anayways after it all , pretty scum of the Deegans to do that to him
I have followed this channel for a long time and will no longer that was a dirty deal on all parts from family team and Yamaha. It does not matter if the kid was going to sell out every star “secret” or just wanted to play with the bike it’s a ama race that you and star put yourself into and both should if you don’t know the rules
Haiden is fast and has a bright future but your making excuses. A claim is a claim. If I ran our quarter horse in a race with claiming rules I wouldn’t put a $100,000 horse in it unless I expected it to be taken. Hand the bike over wash your hands get another star bike and move on.
All things considered, this was Yamaha that put Haiden and the Deegan name in this position. Haiden is currently a factory amateur racer..he races the bike the factory tells him to. That said, he's out at the ranch on a Works bike..claiming rules apply. It was YAMAHA that didn't want THEIR 50k+ Works bike claimed.. The way Yamaha handled that by threatening this kids main sponsor (a Yamaha dealer) was shitty, and that tarnishes the Deegan brand as though the rules don't apply to them, because they are Deegans. So now it looks like they "got away" with something. The rule is simple, pay double the MSRP and that bike is yours, or the rider gets suspended for a year. I don't want to see Haiden suspended, OR his name tarnished... this was YAMAHAs f-up having him on a Works bike, and it is they who should take 100% of the blame for any ill feelings involved with this. The Deegans aren't gonna come out and say this about their factory ride...but I can..
I can't believe they left the comments up for this video. The amount of hero worshiping happening with the deegans is incredible. The reality is they went to an amateur race with a factory bike and got caught with their hand in the cookie jar. When that happened they (the whole star/ yamaha/ Deegan camp) used their power to bully the kid out of the claim and then on top of cause him to lose his sponsors. You're fooling yourselves if you think it's as simple as brian made it seem on this video, remember, he puts out what he wants you to see.
Yea its all good and let's move on, sure because u got your way. The kid wanted to ride a factory bike. Maybe the rules need changing but until then the kid bought it and then got bullied out of it. Make the rule triple msrp. Or eliminate it completely.
The silence from the Deegan is deafening, they haven't made a response video yet to the bulling Brian did in the back room deal.
Wonder what's in that bike worth pulling a child's sponsorship and bullying him 🤔
This is AMATEUR racing. That rule is in place for this exact reason to discourage people from riding bikes over double the MSRP.
First, let me say, I am a huge fan of the Deegans, I really admire and have so much respect for all of them, which also made this whole incident really disappointing.
Its unreal reading all of the comments about how, of course Yamaha doesnt want to hand a bike over that they have spent hundreds of hours building and testing. People seem so ignorant, or just dont take the time to think about it. The WHOLE reason the claim rule exists is so people DONT bring bikes that have had hundreds of hours of building and testing, to an Amateur race, to make the field more level. Somehow, people dont understand something so simple.
Yamaha should have NEVER brought a bike to the track that they werent prepared to get claimed, its just so dumb, a serious mistake on their part. With Haiden being so popular, and running the lap times he was, I would be real surprised if it wasnt claimed.
This rider that made the claim should have never been in an office being drilled by adults about why he wanted the bike, without his parents there, its just wrong, and it was disappointing that when Brian saw this, he didn't put a stop to it, I am sure he would never want Haiden in the same position. The rider that put in the claim doesn't have to explain why he wants it, or what he plans to do with it, or where he got the money, to anyone, its no ones business, unless he wants to explain. It was so wrong the way he was questioned, he had the right to it, according to the rules, and if he wants to run it off a cliff, or sell it on Ebay, or set it on fire, thats 100% his choice.
People complain saying its a stupid rule, you don't bring that up after an incident, if you don't like the rules, don't race, if you do race, abide by the rules, and if you want the rule changed, work on it, outside of an incident. If you get caught, pay the price. I really admire how Brian and the Mrs do so much to raise their kids right, but in this situation I would have expected Brian to show Haiden that when your caught, you pay the price, and do the right thing, you abide by the rules, not that you use your backing, support, and power, to get around rules that apply to everyone.
Yamaha really messed up by bringing a bike to race that they had so much invested in, and its obvious thats the case. It was really dumb to run a bike that has special parts, or tens of thousands of dollars invested when there's a claim rule, and they gambled with the rules and took a risk, and lost, and then refused to pay the price for their actions.
I mainly blame Yamaha for bringing a bike they cant risk losing to race in a race with the claim rule, but the way this mess was handled by Yamaha, RacerX, AMA, and even Brian, was just wrong, and really disappointing, they made a huge mistake and instead of just paying the price, they used their power to get out of it, like the rules don't apply to them. I am firm believer in that when you F up, its better to just pay the price, get past it, and move on, rather than weasel your way out of it but this is a major F up by Yamaha and would have been a hefty price to pay.
The worst part is, after the bike is given back to Yamaha and the Deegans, this can never be fixed, ever. There is good that will come out of this though, you won't see any high dollar Factory bikes in amateur races that have this claim rule again, they wont gamble, and take this risk again, which is a good thing.
Haiden could of ran a stock bike and still won, hes that good, and if it got claimed you could just laugh at the rider wasting his money on a claim.
Its a douche move and and an unspoken rule that you just don't be a douche. That's why you've never seen it done before. It's not just about the money and a factory team could care less about the actual bike value. Racing is a competitive sport and everyone has their own recipe for winning so of course you wouldn't want your trade secrets out there. Hell even if the edge is just in the tune why should anyone have access to the tune you've spent 1000's of hours to perfect?
@@cknorris3644 It has been done before, and it has also been done in auto racing, but who cares what has been done before. Your missing the whole point of the rule, you don't bring a bike that has "trade secrets", you don't bring a bike that has thousands of hours in it, to a race that has the claim rule, that's just dumb, and Yamaha gambled with it, it was a bad move but even worse was how it was handled afterwards. If you don't like the rule, don't race, if you do race, expect to follow the rules, its quite simple. I guarantee you that the majority of the riders in amateur racing, want this rule, but its the few people with unlimited funds and teams of people doing R&D that don't want the rule, understandably. Of course there should never be a rule like this in the Pros, but this is amateur racing where to many people, it makes sense.
It doesn’t matter if you had more races on it or not, or sentimental value or not, an AMA rule is an AMA rule, or the fact it had secret parts in it. Then you shouldn’t have had those parts in it. However, once again, power prevails when you threaten people. Sad.
Bryan is the master at putting the blame back on everyone else and then acting like its your fault for something he did. Definitely bad look for yamaha.
God bless you for speaking up about government corruption
You owe that kid a bike. He claimed it fair & square. Don't bring a 100k bike to amateurs
dont be slow so you dont have to claim someone else's hard work
@@buddylight1599 has nothing to do with speed. He said he would not be much quicker. He wanted a full pro bike to try.
That’s a nice bike is it for sale? Say 2x msrp fair? Lol Brian has shown his true colours. he’s a clown living through his son
You said no hard feelings and then you say it was dirty. A rule is a rule no one cares about your feelings.
THIS IS WHY THAT RULE EXISTS… it’s amateur racing , don’t build a super bike if you don’t want the chance to lose it . what an EVEN playing field
same rule explains right to refuse. its in the rules
@@dirtbeard108that would mean he should be banned from racing ama events for a minimum of 2 years clown
We’re disappointed in you Brian.
Shame you had to intimidate a kid for doing something in the rules
I love you guys but i think star yamaha and its back supports went way wrong on it! You cant just blow that off, he didnt need the mechanical help. That falls on star yamaha for being so ignorant towards Amateur racing!
You guys bullied and good hearted rider and he lost his dealership sponsor because of you. Unbelievable. Make it right.
Sad the things this family has done to get ahead. Kharma
The entire Deegan family should do the right thing and step away from the sport as soon as possible.
The doubt spun around this scenario will only serve to rupture anything good the sport has going for it.
Nobody gets to participate in acts like these and come away unscathed.
If the sport doesn’t recognize self evident truths, then maybe a look at some empty seats will serve notice to them.
This will empty seats.
I that boy lost his ride you guys need to fix this fast!
The buc-ee's bathrooms are a life changing experience.
Can I buy your bike???
Hi Brandon from vlog eppicness remember me?
lol
What’s up
@@Deegan38 you guys should come down and ride at sunset ridge in IL
@@Deegan38 sup deegans
That factory bike with all the expensive mods makes you go fast hey. Should have handed the bike over if you had nothing to fear.
Rules don't apply to Brian Deegan. Had Haiden lost the race Brian would have taken the winner in a room and asked them "why are you doing this".
Mafia threatens winner to hand over 1st place to Deegan.
Please shed some light on the situation fully, of what happened with the bike claim. We would all really like to know more about the closed door conversation between you and the claiming party. We would all like to give you the benefit of the doubt, but the story has two sides and we need to hear both. In a sport driven by the fans and moto enthusiasts, the light needs to be shed.
Brian is a snake. Doubt hed let haiden talk in a closed room while being interrogated. Dont want your bike claimed, dont bring a factory bike to race armatures. Pretty simple.
Brian,
The biggest takeaway from these videos of Haiden’s progression toward world dominance is your parenting. The basis of success in any field is family.
Inspirational !!!
From one father to another, SPOT ON MATE 👍
Agree 100%
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In the world we living in, I really look forward to seeing the new videos to be posted, a breath of fresh air!
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Claim rule has been around forever. Same in imca racing. Everyone acting like it's never happened before! Trust me it has! Lol
well done. but you need to think about how the claim situation happened. with yamaha and star racing bullying the buyer of the bike to withdraw the claim. something not right here
Deegan literally asked why the trails don’t dissipate while explaining exactly how they dissipate hahah
Brian you should be ashamed of yourself. Hope you feel real tough conducting yourself as you did at an amateur event and I hope you feel like a big man for using handover or standover tactics on a 17 year old. Your children have no hope in life being good people after being first hand witnesses to your shady way of doing business and I feel sorry for them. Just proves my point that money doesn't buy morals.
If the Claim was no big deal then yall should have given up the Bike ! Also You mr deegan was yelling at a Boy without his Parent there, you had him cornered and thats BS ! If that was your son you would be pissed. Yall are def hiding something in that bike or you would have let it go !
Really disappointing to see all this go down! That kid deserves that bike and yall bullied him and his sponsors and now that kid has to find new bikes cause yall can't handle the rules! Shouldn't have brought a bike like that if you didn't want to lose it!
The old man may be a physocapath, only a full confession and apology will save his butt at this point. After that give the Canadian kid the dam bike.....for free!
Okay Brian is cool but the talking to the camera with your boy next to you like he wasn’t there was your lamest episode.
What’s sad is how Brian is so caught up on TH-cam that he threatened the kid about defaming his family on TH-cam. Get a life
Im somehow not shocked at all that you guys have found yourselves wrapped up in this drama. No longer a fan
Lost a lot of respect for you Brian. The way you handled the bike claim situation is ridiculous. I'm not even going to get to the details of what went down but the truth comes out one way or another.
th-cam.com/video/8ZkJU8-IxMY/w-d-xo.html. video to kid describing his story on how it went down. Surprised how this hit me too. I was a huge fan of these guys.
I think the whole claiming a bike rule is lame! If you want a fast bike then go buy a bike, take it to a motor builder and give him $10k and say I want this thing to scream! Don’t take another riders bike because you wanna ride it on your TH-cam channel! You can get graphics and everything else to make your bike look just like Deegans! If you are jealous then go train your ass off like Haiden and get yourself a ride from one of the big teams! I just think the whole thing was lame to begin with! Get rid of that stupid rule! All it does is create drama at the amateur races! With the moto dads, there should be enough drama for everyone to enjoy! Go watch the 50 class! 200 protests after just one moto! Dads fighting with other dads because their kid beat so and so’s kid! The Deegans are a great family! Like I said before, Haiden doesn’t work on the motors! He doesn’t work on the bike at all! Star Yamaha provides him a bike and tells him to go win. That’s what the kid does! WIN! He also busts his ass training! You can’t buy talent or speed! You work day in and day out like Haiden does! And all you Haters always need some drama to latch onto! Go somewhere else and hate! IMO the Deegan family is great! Except Hudson, he’s a work in progress! 🤣🤣🤣 Just kidding Huck! 👍🏻👍🏻🤣🤣
Very well said , totally agree with you
The last time i watched Armature Nationals with any real interest, my friend Erik Kehoe was getting ready to go pro. I was born with the Slow Gene and as a life time novice its just awesome no matter how you see it. Haden's is good for the sport and nobody loves the sport more than that family.
What a disappointment you are Brian. It takes a lot courage to be close in a room intimidating a minor.
So what's up with the kid claiming his bike someone please actually enlighten me I'm so confused 🤔
You are the Karen in this Brian.rules. you crying to cancel dealership is Dirty.tell all.
Good luck in future but amateur races are for the up and comers to showcase talent which was proven with the W. But after what went down can’t stick with it or with Yamaha. Keep working hard and good luck in the future.
DIRTY!???!! Lmao that is Hilarious @Brian The only thing Dirty about this Entire Situation is Everything that was done to this kid. You Bullied him, Yamaha Bullied him, threatened him and his sponsor. A bunch of Grown ass men throwing a Tantrum.
Every single one of you just got out classes by a 17 year old Kid from Canada. Embarrassing.. Go watch the kids interview.
@OfficialThedeegans On Telegram I bet it's balloon art of a dirt bike 🤡
DEEGAN 2024, Make Moto Metal again. MMMA!
So, what was on that bike y’all didn’t want everyone to see?
probably the tuning
You are correct to suspect the ✈️.....it just takes a little observation. "Don't look Up" ☝️
Smaller, thinner, older and more funnier looking everytime! Stay off of U tube Brian. Your ride was over long ago!
Ok, evidently I'm a lucky winner of a prize for my comment. Let me be clear with another comment here, not sure who ever is up to what ever. I'm am anxious to watch Haiden enter into the pro ranks and dominate! I am bummed to see his father, who's name and the word controversy, have always been a thing. Haiden will do positive things for the sport. He's has respect that his father never had. I'd hate to see Brian tromping around through Haiden's career leaving a wake of destruction behind. Focus on Huck and don't ever threaten to claim another riders bike again hypocrite! OR stay home and take care of your wife, watch TV, cut the lawn, what ever.
Stay humble, Haiden, and watch what happens. The meek will inherit the earth.
Can’t play dirty if it’s the rules
Ya look fast smooth and relaxed on that
Yamahaiden Dude
Nice Win
Hudson you look great on your bike too
Got that shred in Ya
Great lookin' shirts Bri
Save me one XL
Don't tell anyone
They're seeding the clouds again😎
Follow the rules. Make this right Brian you have the means to.
Nope they never did. Brian is a snake. Calls everyone else a sell out when he is a sell out.
They raced Star Yamaha's with factory works, then destroyed a kids life when he called them out on it.
Grade A low life Brian Deegan is.
Who cares what he wanted to do with the bike. It's an AMA rule. When you show up, you follow their rules no? Also why would you care if he monotizes the content from the bike. Haiden ends every video with "shop deegan 38", this chanel is monotized, and you use your follower count every time you discuss sponsorships. That's the game. It's not the kid who claimed the bikes responsibility to worry about what Haiden will ride the next 3 races. Or if it's his last amateur bike. All of what you said is irrelevant and you all look like chumps for bullying a 17 year old kid.
Bro don’t sweat this shit, heavy lies the crown 👑 keep rippin on big blue #Deegans🤘🏻
Claim process is bad in its current rule.
Claim should be made, bike pulled by AMA and handed over. Period, done deal.
Look at circle track racing, engines get claimed and handed over.
Time to unsubscribe
You owe that kid a bike, period
You know what you did to that kid was wrong you have to help him! because of your reaction to this whole thing the kid has lost everything not a good look for your brand or your sponsors I think you know the risks of the rule and you chose to bully your way out rather than respect the rules if you don't like the rules don't race! Shocking behavior from yourself nothin to do with Haden but what you and the team did was 100% wrong
Well done for applying so much pressure to 17 year boy about claiming a bike off your son. Your a real hero 😅😅😅
Well done, but the true test will be to see how he runs against other factory bikes. If he can smoke the pipe then Star Yamaha will get my respect back.
your respect is worth nothing when you believe cooksey media
Anyone else done with The Deegans?? I think Brian definitely handled the claiming deal the wrong way. He pretty much trashed the kids reputation and his
motocross career.
I’m done with them.
Bye Bye Deegans.
Haiden is good no matter what he rides. However you Brian Deegan and Yamaha bullied a kid into not claiming the bike. Sad day for the General to have to be involved with a youth rider alone in a room. I love Yamaha but I'm unbelievably disappointed in them and Brian.
I have to unsub after the bullshit at Loretta Lynns bullying that kid outta the bike.
I’ve been a fan of the deegans for a long time and all I can say is you bullied that kid out of that bike that he was rightfully entitled to just because you have the money in the cloud and the Pham doesn’t mean you can push people down and now get his sponsor taken away your a poor role model to the sport
out of all the people they take haidens bike and it's literally just because he's famous as I'm sure someone out there had a factory bike that's not a Yamaha
Listening to what Brian saying every week are why I’m here and I think most kids early 20’s especially
Are the Deegans talented hands down. Do they have endless support 1000% but to do what you did to that kid was sad. Brian didn't you start metal militia cause of sponsor bullies and now your the bully to a kid. Being a huge fan since the 90s I have lost all respect for you. And I know that doesn't mean anything to you cause who am I.
Hey Brian why'd you delete your live straight lying about the motor builder being the one who came up with the money. That kid has pay stubs to prove it buddy.
Nice engine bud
runs just like it's a factory works bike!
There’s a whole bunch of bottom feeders trying to burn you guys and destroyed the sport of Supercross and motocross a bunch a left wing nut cases they’ve destroyed every other sport it’s absolutely ridiculous hang in there God bless you guys Bless us all
Lost all respect for for Yamaha and the deegans
Only been watching these videos for a year now. Thought he was a up and coming star. Probably is but I'll never be a fan of his or his brand
Brian what your talking about with the planes is called a vapor trail.
It’s a good day when the Deegan family posts
Brian, you wrapped it up perfect at the end. Brush it off and keep enjoying the ride! Great attitude!
Great stuff y'all! Don't worry about the sore losers. Bennick is right there with Haiden in all the races but nobody's questioning him are they? To me it just looks like the two training together is steel sharpening steel.
Keep it going!
if you have an instagram, make sure you comment kind messages on haiden's recent post! lets show them the love that they deserve, the deegans that we all love are getting unreasonable hate for twisted lies, just a bump in the road of life though, we know they and we deegan fans will come out stronger than ever!!!