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Forgot to mention the case is fully reversible, so you can flip the motherboard tray around and have the mobo on the right side, PSU on the left, etc. Kinda cool, but hardly unique. IMO you'll still need to run a custom loop & leverage more of this case's features for it to be worth the $179.99 US MSRP. Feel free to share your thoughts.
I mean you're paying for a high-end case. It feels like the design was rushed with oversight, it is still a good-looking case nonetheless.
The black one is $149 and the white one is $159
Is the riser cable PCI-E gen 3 or 4?
It also seems as tho you couldn't use the upright mount for a watercooled gpu, as the inlet/outlet ports that protrude from the card wouldn't fit with the front panel on. I guess the EK 30 series FE blocks would be ok, but other than that, the block wouldn't fit
So you can mount your GPU with the upright kit and the rad on "top" in the reverse setup. Then remove the plate for the back and 120mm on the side or the mesh front panel
This may have been mentioned but in case you didn't know. the removeable plate on the case behind the GPU can be reversed which will give you much more room when mounting the GPU in the upright position
was just about to say that
This ^^^^^^^^
this clown that Lian Li sent their very well thought out and also well documented hardware surely DID NOT READ the manual before he went on to turn on a camera and made this crap to post on the internet!!!!!!!!
Personally I like my GPUs mounted traditionally. I like the look of the backplate, side of the gpu and Pcie cables over the look of the fans.
I like vertical for liquid cooling
imagine my build but in an Evo.. that's what it will look like with watercooling and cable management
Same
I also prefer that. Plus after all the bad things I've heard about riser cables, I don't trust them
100% in agreement, I love the look of the exposed cooling fins along the side, like it is unbuttoning its shirt 😂
The rear plate for the upright GPU, not the bracket but the plate itself ... is reversible.
If you inverted that plate it would set over an inch further back in the chassis.
That means that the bracket would also be set back, which means you wouldnt have had a problem with the rad up top, or fans, or be too close to a rad or fans on the bottom, and/or you could put a 240 rad on the front panel.
The reversibility of that panel is key to the design ... I guess you missed that.
well to be honest this review seems rushed and not thought through. a lot of wrong explanations and the critics you took on the case all seemed like you did not have a clear thought on how to do things. GPU power for example: you could easily run the cables below/behind the gpu through the gromit directly to the psu.
do you really complain about the temps when not even fitting the case with fans? why not put a 360 rad at the top and 3 fans at the bottom? it's like you actually try to make the case look bad.
i hope you remake this review with a bit more thought behind it.
yeah just feels like a not well made video. actually even a badly made video.
Ok here’s the problem with this comment, your trying to prove a point to a TH-cam creator with millions of subscribers who is probably never going to see this comment. Also have some respect for people that provide content FOR FREE to people like you. Making a complaint here does nothing except waste your own time. I’m not insulting or gaslighting you, I’m just giving you some advice.
If custom painting of a case is “basic,” then this case is a dream with all its and modularity. Strictly from a parts build, I still find it a leap beyond most alternatives as one vendor has it listed for ~$150 US. That price seems very competitive given its flexibility.
The problem is you didn't turn around the mounting plate that the GPU holder can bolt to. The front right side mounting plate not only can be changed but is reversable an moves it closer to the right outside panel giving you more room on the inside of the case to mount the top rad an fans. Looks like you rushed this build a little to get the review out.
Agreed. Should make 2 separate vids as for in depth review of the case and all the add ons, and pc build in it. It did seems rushed and not properly planned build. Hope maybe they will have another build vid on it.
Yeah and his assessment is just bafflingly dumb. "The average builder can't use this! It'd be a waste!"
Why? It's not much more and if you have a GPU mounted normally, it'll be just as good as the tens of thousands of builds using other Lian Li 011's? Not onlt that but these cases as we know can even work with vertical GPU's too etc etc.
There's no NEED to custom loop this at all, and he simply built this terrible. Liek this is a garbage build, if you showed me pictures of this and went "The verge built another terrible computer!" I'd believe it was the verge lol.
Or a 120 mm rad could've been used instead of the featured 140mm NZXT
The O11D XL has the same GPU anti-sag bracket. I vertically mounted my GPU so I didn't need it but I did install it in my other rig (Phanteks 719) that has w/cooled SLI'ed cards mounted traditionally and it works very well - no sag, no wiggle.
What GPUs do you have SLId?
@@EpicMind500 - 1080 TI's with EK water blocks.
what gpu vertical mount did you use for the O11D XL
@@b0neheads - EK GPU Holder EVO
@@blai5e730 thanks so much 😁
its like one of those customisable cases with panels and setup
I got the case for almost a year now , lian li did a great job with this case . Theres plenty of room , you can customize it in so many ways and it looks amazing
I've just received this case and it's an absolute gem.
I've done a couple of builds in the past so no expert but this case can be utilised for a basic or advanced builders. It lets you customize in so many ways, including reverse, which if like me you need to switch the viewing side of your rig is a big deal - how was this an after thought?! Yes, inverting a case is not unique but to be done this well actually is.
The negativity in this review is dumbfounding for a case this good - cable management, modularity, aesthetics all bang on the money.
I was totally opened minded about choosing a case for my new build but after reading countless reviews I knew this was the one, I wasn't disappointed! This case was made for the community from listening and implementing their ideas. Great job Lian Li & Der8auer.
Do yourself a favour & read/watch some other reviews before being put off by this one.
All Bitwit had to do was remove the drive cage.
if you bought the gpu mount, can you send the link?
yeah this felt really rushed and not planned
@@mannyfresh7065 the 011 dynamic series is pretty much the best selling diy case in the market. This one is an improvement over the original one.
@@TheSjuris oh trust me I agree. This case is really amazing and debating on going from my O11 mini to this. However Kyle didn’t do a great job showing off all the features and really downplayed the innovation on this case
One more addition which would be small but awesome: A rear PCI slot panels that has the relocatable "front" I/O connections. If you can decide which side to locate those ports, why not put them on the rear?
Also: To put the radiator at the top, why not rotate the GPU 180 degrees with the outputs on the bottom?
Dude the whole point of “front” io is so you have easily accessible ports. Why tf you you put them in the rear?
I can't really figure out why you were so set on mounting a 280mm AIO or 140mm fans at the top or bottom. Why not install a 360mm AIO at the top and some triple 120mm fans at the bottom? Then you wouldn't have clearance issues with the side mounted GPU.
Furthermore, I'm pretty sure there is a way to mount the other side panel behind the GPU to mount fans. You just have to get creative.
P.S. - PCIe 4.0 extension cables do exist on the market and would allow you to run that cable behind the motherboard for a much cleaner look
Probably sponsored build by ASUS considering its all the new'ish white ROG components. Definitely hits the quality of the content in this case.
Good point. Three 120s can move more air than two 140s at a specific sound level.
Exactly
@@jaymacpherson8167 source? Personally I hate higher pitched fans so I think it would be hard for any configuration of small fans to be better on sound. That said, I have 5 140mm fans so I might be biased.
@@deViant14 Look at the flow specs for most manufacturers’ fans. For example: NF-A14 PWM 140.2 m3/hr x2 = 280.4 m3/hr vs NF-A12x25 PWM 102.1 m3/hr x3 = 306.3 m3/hr. Last I checked 280.4 is less than 306.3. And you can check the sound levels yourself, which are lower for the 120s.
You can use the fan bracket on the side to mount the upright GPU as well. So you'd have 3 exhaust or intake fans behind the GPU moving air. Lian Li advertises them to be exhaust fans.
The should've made the hdd cage in a way that you could mount a 5,25" ssd cage.
@Ladioz y
@Ladioz hdds are cheap and high capacity ssds are really really expensive
@Ladioz you don't have to use them you know. It's just an option for those who would like to. Also, ssds are really expensive compared to harddrives. Just a 2tb sdd one compared to a harddrive can easily cost 3x-4x times more.
for the first time i actually watched a manscaped advertisement. that one was good
in a normal case with fans in the front, having a video card facing forwars (1 90* turn from original position) would be really optimal, this is why I like cases with fans on the bottom such as this one, pretty sure they snuck into my room and took my design though since I also put fans on the side....
That sag bracket is literally the best. I bought one on its own 6 months ago to use in my NZXT 500 and worked perfectly!
I did a build with this case. I got a good deal at Micro Center in my area, so I got it over the XL (which was full price). Not a bad little build. I mounted the AIO Radiator (GA 2 Trinity 360) on top. Single fan set (not push/pull) blowing out. I mounted the GPU (2.5 slot) in the traditional location - no riser cables or other nonsense. 1 120 fan in the back blowing out (traditional). Bottom set of 3 fans intake. Side set of 3 fans intake.
This is a 14700K with the RTX 4070 Ti build with the Avermedia PCIe capture card. All works really well. Looks pretty good to since I went with the Lian Li Uni v2 fans. System will be mainly recording, streaming, and light video editing. Specs are a bit overkill but got a nicer system because of BF specials and the PCIe capture card requires NVIDIA GPUs for 60fps capture - otherwise, I would have opted for the Intel Arc A770 and a lower end chip.
I do agree, this case goes on a desk not the floor - which I true for any "showcase" PC case like the O11D series.
I’ve seen other builds with 360 rads with the gpu mounted like that. You’re the first to have this issue
3 things. #1: I'm pretty sure you're meant to use the fan bracket with the upright GPU mount so you'd have big, wide-open spaces (yeah!) to route the PCIe cables through. I could be wrong, idk.
#2: IMO, the upright GPU bracket is just a gimmick and was clearly not thought through that well. It would look a lot cleaner if the riser cable was just a bit longer, so you could run it through the cable grommet right beside the GPU and then up through the bottom hole (if it were wide enough) where front panel connectors and fan/RGB cables would normally go.
#3: I feel like 99% of people would just use the regular GPU/PCIe slots or the normally-vertical GPU mount that attaches where the PCIe slots are. The "upright" mount is just for show, IMO.
Besides the things mentioned above, I love this case. They really improved on the design and the modularity is amazing.
length of the riser cable is absolutely my biggest down side for this case as well. The rest is managable. This, however, is pure garbage. You could fit it easily through the grommets and below the motherboard. It just needs to have the appropriate length. Sadly, though, they didn't do that for the final version. :/
But still, I guess I'm gonna buy that case and that accessory... The case is just too much perfect for me and my use case.
Maybe I'll find another riser cable or something that'd make this thing work like a charm!
I recommend a 600 mm PCIe gen 4 riser cable.
you should do a intel 13th gen build with a carbon and silver theme in this case. you could use the lian li mirror fans and a msi z690 carbon ek x with a evga rtx 3090. you could also add a distro plate in the front. you would have to mount the pump/resivoir in the bottom on a rad. this would be a great build to do custom water cooling in and it would be a epic build!
Just transplanted my pc into the 011D and I love it! Super modular and looks amazing!
Thanks for the vid Kyle! Little constructive criticism though, the background music in this vid was distracting and cut out at strange times. Not sure if that was intended but yeah.
I totally agree with you Kyle, I saw a complete custom loop on GGF prior to review. Man, this build look sweet and thought the case could do no wrong until I saw your review! Good job Bud!!! 👍👊😁
the issue is bitwit didn't read any of the manuals or even bother to try and fit a 240 or 360mm radiator. he got stuck on 280mm.
The case is great for air or all in one loops, not just all out custom open loops like GGF events.
would it have been easier to feed wires through for the GPU if you used the fan holder panel instead of the HDD Panel?
Came here to say this. This would have been much easier for him.
If you did a custom loop in this case, could you fit a 240 rad with fans up top with the GPU in the upright configuration? Another thought would be with the GPU taking up the normal Pump/Res area you would almost need to go with a distro plate on the front, so you don't end up blocking the view of the GPU which again is kind of a main reason for going with this case.
I was excited when I saw this review about the evo. But, you should have done your research on this case. That back plate you installed is causing your heat issue. You should have left the other fan bracket on. Please do a second review later.
kyle: thumbnail of the aio on the bottom with pump on top
steve: heavy breathing
"The last time a girl saw your junk, she thought Bob Ross had been resurrected." LOL!
Yeah i just switched to the O11 D Razer Edition. Matches my mouse and keyboard. love it.
Music is on point in this video. Great choices!
The riser cable is still going to be an issue even if you go water cooled. You could hide it with the loop a little better.
You can ziptie them.
@@swizzler8053 Where? the riser cable still has to go from the PCIe slot to the graphics card. The route for this consistently the same.
the PCIe riser is so black it blends so well with your motherboard i really didnt see it till you pointed it out.
The front IO idea is genius. Another great vid Kyle. 👍
Some nice upgrades over the previous versions. Looks like it has better vetnalation vs the slits in the metal on the top and side from older versions.
I like my o11d XL so much I’m going to do my first n water loop in it because EK makes a massive distro plate that looks to cool.
That vertical GPU mounting setup is yikes tho takes away almost all of your radiator, fan support
I get where you're coming from, but I think it can be done to make it even more cooling efficient in vertical upright position given you get a much more efficient air stream in the unobstructed "chimney" cooling format where fresh air sucks in the bottom and straight up through the exhaust. Also you can get a slim 20mm radiator and slim fans and fit a 3rd radiator behind the vertical GPU. Just food for thought.
@@Matt-gf4gd there is some other dude on here that did a break down of thermals for different fan configurations, and no matter how you do it, mounting the GPU upright causes higher temps for the GPU and the entire case. The main reasoning is that those side mounts provide great airflow for a radiator and the gpu is blocking all of that space and pushing hot air off of the GPU into the center of the case. Obviously its normal for a gpu to do this, but this issue lies with the gpu covering a massive vent allowing air to only come in from the bottom and out the top. If the side is used as an intake radiator, then you’ll be pulling in air from the side and the bottom allowing for a bigger surface area for the air to flow.
All that being said: if you like the upright design and your temps don’t get out of control, by all means go for it. I just don’t see very many people buying a case like this to NOT attempt to take advantage of the airflow
@@MoparMooser I actually didn't notice much worse temps in the upright. You can still probably mount a radiator there as well.... There's plenty of space leftover, depending on your card... I'd say about 40-60mm behind the GPU.
I tried different orientations and found that the upright position lowered my CPU temps and increased my GPU temps slightly, but not by much. I found an odd orientation seemed to work pretty well where I mounted a 140mm fan as intake behind the GPU in upright at the bottom and an exhaust 140mm at the top behind the GPU. Thermals seemed pretty good with that setup, though I could see using the whole side as intake unobstructed probably gives slightly better thermals. I'm intending to go custom loop water cooled though with a bottom and top 360 radiator, so it wouldn't be an issue. If you're doing all air cooled, then probably a few % less optimal, but for the trade off of aesthetics I still kinda like it personally.
the best case wit a sag bracket that is removable ive seen to date was actually the rosewill prism s case i used to have, for some reason when i sold the case i kept it, and the bracket works perfectly in my nzxt h710i case for my 3070ti ftw3, i put it on the bracket that hides the cables and i belive supports a watercooling resivor, that little slit on it is perfect to mount the fold out sag bracket!
inverted motherboard, add a 120 mm distro plate (phantek makes one) to the rear fan slot, dual 360 rads, and try to do runs using any bend adaptors.
I’m doing a build for my wife and I almost bought this case, but then I thought that it might honestly be a bit too much, and I’m glad you agree for a basic build.
Furthermore I found a TUF gaming GTX 3080 TI video card at Micro Center. Yours for the low low price of $1900 🤯
rtx
@@elpatomaton6333 thx for the correction I had no idea what GPU he was talking about at all until I read that
@@elpatomaton6333 thx for the correction I had no idea what GPU he was talking about at all until I read that
@@elpatomaton6333 thx for the correction I had no idea what GPU he was talking about at all until I read that
@@elpatomaton6333 thx for the correction I had no idea what GPU he was talking about at all until I read that
Nexus talked about the price of the case and it cost too much for the case it self not counting all the extras you have to pay for shat really should come with it. They're just being greedy with the cost of a basic-looking case.
Like not even a couple fans? C’mon
@@mauricioyoung6668 tbh most fans that come with cases usually suck, I prefer buying my own fans to put in them (that's just me tho xd)
Kyle, is everything Ok my dude???
Take that break if you need it.
I wonder if getting a long riser and going through the bottom holes to the back side instead would look better? It would be better if the fan back plate worked with the vertical mount.
Do a Superman theme and see if he’d be interested in collaborating with you in it. Or a Witcher theme. That’d make a sick custom build.
Just a quick question, isn't that AIO going to die quicker the way it's installed? Seems like air is going to be trapped in the pump.
That Bob Ross comment about my "junk" made me feel like I was personally attacked. Dayum Kyle, why you gotta do me like that LoL
Bitwit, you are only one YT who show properly Lian Li 011D Evo with GPU in upright position plus shows where cable coming from and how are there are connected to GPU.Not like most of rest, who's gpu are either not connected or cables are hided!! Ive spend a long time looking for it, so i'm sincerely will say -Thank you!
Just finished a new build in the 011 D Mini and Im very happy with it. Highly recommend if you like the 011 but want something smaller that still has great rad support and still fits up to atx size boards
Definitely superior to the Air; I hate the on the Air the HDD cage is riveted, not removable AND you can't do 3 120mm fans the bottom. Such a disappointment.
Pre-ordered mine today. Super excited to build in this beast. Anyone interested in buying it, I would preorder soon. Most likely going to sell out fast like the last one.
The gpu kit comes in pcie 3 and 4
Correct me if im wrong but i saw ajay flipped the caes upside down and the feet are removable so the top can be the bottom
So GN showed the case can rotate or flip on its base. Wonder if when flipped how the rad would end up vs being on the bottom now.
Only need to remove one panel to access gpu cables. The sides can come off now without taking off the top
Sorry man, but seems all the problems you mentioned after your build had to do with the parts you selected to use in this build and the distribution you decided also. You didn't know how to optimize and use wisely all that available space. The fail goes to your planning not to the case design.
Air in AIO will go to the highest point of the system which is the actual CPU block so wouldn't mount the rad at bottom.
17:50 ye i have actually seen one with fewer, had to build one for a customer who insisted he didnt want any case fans only a few days ago. cant wait for that pc to catch fire.
you can prob run the pcie extention behind the mobo tray and come up from the bottom so its not so ugly
Kyle's ad spot almost convinced me my Barbosol, disposable razor, and Gold Bond combo aren't good enough.
The theme is Halo and freaking do it! Nice honest review Kyle!
1. If you build in reverse mode, no radiator issue, 2. side fans go behind the gpu, 3. There is a 600mm riser cable.
Umm route the PCIe 3x8 pin behind the GPU and not through that teeny tiny hole. There are other PCIe 4.0 riser cable extenders that are longer so they can also be routed behind the GPU and out of sight. For reference see GGF Events YT review.
Appreciate the shoutout. Amazes me people of this calibre don't do research.
i have the xl and i love it
Beautiful case, but I feel the mesh should come standard on it, not the glass. I would also like to have the top I/O as standard instead of the little module. I have no issues standing up to plug something into a usb port. The vertical GPU mount seems gimmicky.
Too bad you can't custom order cases like this and select the parts you want to come with it. I like this case more than my Meshify 2 XL, but not at the additional cost of customizing it the way I would like it to be. I would like it with the mesh front, the solid front panel in place of the vertical video card, and the top metal panel with the I/O holes in it. I should be able to call them up, tell them what I want and they ship it to me without the stuff I don't want.
Fractal design Torrent: Here , hold my 🍺
i love how dirty his mousemat is, it shows how much he uses it and spills stuff on it.
The only way I see the riser cable working is if it was longer and you could route it behind the case. Problem is that if you could route it behind the case, you would be potentially blocking off PCIE slots. (if you go down)
I honestly don't see a situation that the riser cable wouldn't look bad. Lian Li didn't stop to think if they should
Radiator shouldn't be at the bottom of the case with the pump above it. You will have all the air in the pump which is bad. Better to fit the radiator to the roof or the side. Rookie mistake there. Hope you corrected that.
Edit: Turn the case upside down. Not ideal but at least then the air will be in the radiator not the pump.
I also forgot to mention not only is there a mesh front option but the solid inside panel has a open mesh option that is also reversable on the front right to again make room for the GPU. In my opinion you didn't give a accurate review of this case, instead a rushed half done build that is far below what this case is capable of.
I would never put an AIO radiator below the pump housing. Over time air can build up around the pump and near run dry. Mount the radiator for an AIO "above" the cpu level like at the top of your case...not the bottom.
Nice quick walkthrough of the case! Bit out of my price range and need but nice to be aware of this case.
Sorry if I'm a bit picky but what's up with the editing and the music? The sudden pauses in the music before every cut is incredibly distracting and I don't see the point. My inner editor's coming out and it's just not my style :D
The LED riser cable for the gpu would look sick imo
Wow AIO under the CPU … please check Jay’s video on this topic. You should also check Jay’s video on this case he went further on explaining all the features.
I just got my Lian Li and it had no front panel cables attached to it and nothing coming from the power button...we're off to a good start with this build 🤣
The only thing that's killing me, personally for the accessory is the fact that it seems like you aren't able to route the riser cable behind the motherboard.
Why didn't they include a riser cable that's long enough to fit this?
This cable just... Destroys most of the atmosphere this case gives. Now you gotta probably buy a different riser cable if you want to an upright built in that case so that this cable won't be just running all over your built :/
Good video, wrong build idea on that GPU. Traditional mount works best in this case and of course I always buy the mesh panels for the front if they offer it. I might splurge and get the newer EVO XL which fixes all these issues and is a nice step up from my lancool II mesh.
Knowing what I know now, having barely finished a 4090 build with a vertical mount from coolermaster, I would not have gotten this case. The bottom mount fan mount especially being on a rail instead of it letting you screw it directly to the case has made the vertical mount installation barely feasible because it’s touching the fans due to the slightly elevated height. Then there’s the fact that online videos have had the old version being demonstrated, providing an inaccurate presentation, notably when taking out the case with just a pull whereas the new version actually has screws attached BEFORE you can pull it off.
Ridiculously annoying build.
If you look on his desk @ 0:13 under that light, you may see a beer bottle :). Drunk?
rad on the bottom pushing heat into the case (not to mention pump priming issues for AIO pump) and a dumbass side GPU mount no one does, verge build V2, kyle edition
This is the best sponsor mention I've ever heard.
I think you could route the PCIE 8 pins plug through the bottom side rubber grommet, and you should not feel painful by going that route. And, also while you can opt for a 360 AIO with the upright GPU, why insist to stick with 280 AIO? I think the EVO presents ideas of future proof, thinking about the different possibility for different configuration and option. This case will carry over for many years and many different new builds along the way with different option that can make it look and perform differently. Again, opinion can be different but just propose another angle.
The radiator is totally in the wrong place...any air is going to collect in the pump like that. Rad needs to be at the top barbs down.
You MUST do a black Gray combination of color custom build
Just saw this and thought - if you put the radiator all the way down and the pump all the way up, won't all the air bubbles gather in the pump??? Just asking.... Looks like a very bad way to set up the rad and pump...
What is the benefit of this case with mesh vs better thermal rated cases?
When I first saw your completed build I thought you put an ITX motherboard in there, when you pointed out all the empty space at the top I realized that was why!
front gpu and another SLI vertical would hide the ugly cable. That if they chnge the front gpu bracket
this manscaped promo is probably the reason i will be ordering some stuff
The sponsor part alone deserves an upvote :D
That's one of the best ads I've seen a content creator do
I think this is the most critical review I've seen so far of this case. Not a complaint, I like the downsides being pointed out when making a purchase decision.
You should build an OP Superman themed build to honor the Henry Cavill shout out the other day. Maybe red/blue/gold? That would be killer
probably don't want the AIO pump as the highest point on your loop. air bubbles both make more noise and harder on pump.
Is the GPU backwards? Wouldn't the point of vertical mounting the GPU be to pull fresh air from outside directly into the GPU?
This case is TOO EXTRA.......?
This case is:
Overkill for a basic build
A bit too much for a basic build
Is a better match for an advanced build than your basic build
Etc......
TOO EXTRA that is too funny.
So theres an issue with the Strix OC Cooler while mounted in the upright position. If the case is inverted, the Strix Oc card can drop close to 20c. It has something to do with the design of the Stric cooler. Not the case. Great case for a custom water cooling build.
The inevitable "EVO XL" is going to be a God tier case.
if you could id love to see a medium level computer with like a 5800x or 5600x with more like a 3080 or 3070 and a cool theme id say would be a nice simple red and black or a semi industrial ish theme thank you for your time for reading this whoever :)
I skipped throughout the vid, but couldn't you just mount the GPU on the bottom? If so, that would allow for the space you need for the 280mm to go on the side, or top.
should have used the radiator side mount makes it way easier
thanks for beeing honest and showing potential problems.
Did you say I "smell like brie cheese and a donkey's butt" in Lyle's voice? Cuz that's how I heard it! LOL