CR250 Motocross Bike | Good For Enduro? ✊
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- Breaking in a new to me bike, should it be used for enduro or remain a motocross legend?
The Honda CR250R was a Honda racing dirt bike. The prototype was built in 1971, but it was not until late 1972 that production of the 1973 model "out of the box racers" began sale to the general public. The CR250 was produced for nearly 37 years, 2007 being the final year of production.
In 1997, Honda produced an industry first, an aluminum chassis for a motocross motorcycle. These 'first gen' frames were thick, rigid, and were a big change from the previous steel frames, where flexibility had been seen as a problem in the early years. The 1997-8 engines were equipped with a new stator, which supplied DC voltage for the new Keihin carburetor with an electronic 'Power Jet' system, in efforts to control lean mixture preignition. Included in the new electrics was a capacitor and a rectifier/regulator. The 1999 model was almost identical but the Power Jet had disappeared.
For 2000, the 'second gen' aluminum frame was less rigid, with thinner twin-spars, providing a rigidity decrease and better handling. The Keihin PWK carburetor replaced earlier PJ models. The CDI box limited RPMs to 8000. The 2001 model was nearly identical, with a change to a different CDI box, adding 500 RPM to the redline where two more horsepower lurked. The new Mikuni TMX carburetor proved to be temperamental to weather changes.
For 2002, Honda ended the outstanding interchangeability that had existed from 1992~2001, when a completely new engine arrived with a change from cylinder reed induction to an engine case reed induction system and an electronically controlled, cable operated RC valve in place of the centrifugally operated exhaust valve system used since 1992. A TPS (Throttle Position Sensor) was added to the carburetor, powered by a new stator. The ECM would now be able to retard ignition timing to preclude preignition, though there was no ping sensor anywhere.
The third & final generation of the CR250 aluminum chassis also made its appearance, which was thinner, with better flex properties. The same engine & chassis, with minor suspension & plastics changes, continued on until production of this 2-stroke stopped in 2007. Although the case reed engine has potentially the best design, it was never developed to its full potential by Honda, as the industry attention rapidly turned to four stroke engine development. Many owners of the final generation of the CR250 felt the need to turn to the aftermarket to bring that engine to its full potential. The 2001 models continue to be savored by lovers of the CR250, considered the best of the best ever produced.
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It can’t be the wrong bike If your having a blast, even if your iding a MX bike in enduro conditions ..
Just love your thoughts, I’m with you 100%. I own an 02 YZ250, 05YZ250, 14 YZ250, 07 YZ144, 04 CR500AF, 07 CR250AF from an 07 crf250 roller with an 96 CR250 engine. My bike just are my absolute pleasure to ride. Not sure I can get rid of any of them.
Great video, I only own 2 strokes. I’ve been through a number of 4 strokes and just never felt right on them. Today I own an 02 YZ250, 05 YZ250, 2014 YZ250, 05 YZ144, 04 CR500AF, and a 07 CR250AF from a 07 CRF250 roller. Love all my toys I rebuilt them from the frame out. It’s hard to get rid of my toys. I won’t o n a Euro bike. Not because they cost a fortune but also because you’re not sure if you could get any meaningful replacement parts on a timely manner. Many cases if you’re KTM or others are few years older, there aren’t any replacement parts for them. So nope! Not for me. As you’ve stated the Japanese have built reasonably good bikes for decades. My YZs have parts available from at least 99-now. Love it!! Never had any issues. The only bike I had a hard time with was my 03 RM250, it was as a bastard child bike that one year. It was pipe specific and extremely hard to jet for trail and all around use.
97 Cr250r gona be my trail/Mountain bike. It's what i have. Agree with the flywheel weight or steel clutch basket. I'm older, been kickin it forever. 👍
I rode the '83 CR480 and the '01 CR500 as my primary woods bikes for three decades with modifications of flywheel weight, Gnarly pipe, power reeds, protection parts and larger fuel tank. Either they were good woods bikes or I figured out how to adapt. I never owned a 250 so I couldn't say how that works. Probably lacked the low end grunt of the open class bikes.
I finally joined the modern age last year and am now riding a Beta 300RR, which is very nice. I didn't realize how much I would love electric start.
I love my 97 250, and it makes a great enduro setup
A few years back I had a ktm 690 and was thinking of getting a dirt bike. I was asking about a yz 125. You convinced me about the 2 stroke ktm and talked about Enduros. I started to watch your videos and that was the start. 4 years later it was the best thing I ever did. Thank you so much. 🙏
I bought a 95 Cr250 because it was a good deal and I wanted to restore something. I spent a couple years going through it doing a full rebuild and setting it up as a trail bike like this. When I finally got it done I realized I wasn't having fun with it. It was just too much bike for the type of riding I want to do( I'm slow😅). It's an amazing bike and cool to pull out and ride, but it wasn't a good fit for me. I spend too much of the time with the clutch pulled in. I got a CRF250F and honestly have way more fun on it.
Great scenery. Love the fall when dirtbiking! Not too cold, not too hot. Always moist. All variants of mud is a must to get the most out of dirtbiking.
As a teenager, I rode what I could afford, prior to that what my parents thought I deserved (loved my XR75, but my kx80 was when life began). Never understood the real difference between WR and CR until I was a grown up man.
Me an my friends only had MX- bikes. One goof had a 1980 Husky WR125 that he also rode as a commuter bike. It was heavy, hence slow, due to the same heavy duty chassie was reused for the 125, 250 and up.
We rode mostly enduro (in the woods), mostly by our selves.
MX-tracks required a grown up with a car and a trailer. That was kind of boring, because I hated any rules and regulations.
I preferred my friend's Husky bottom end grunt 250 or 390 in the woods to my own high revving Honda CR125. In the sand pits both were a blast. Two stroke was thankfully the only thing in MX or enduro back then. CCM and some other sold Rotax-thumpers to old nostalgic men. Now I'm the old nostalgic man longing for a cheap and reliable modern twostroke - road legal ready.
Electric starting a 2stroke? As a 14year old, kickstarting a husky CR250 or CR390 was regarded as nothing at all. Often wearing tennis shoes. I really don't get the electric starter in MX and most enduro. Even my KLX650R could be kickstarted by a 12year old girl when it sometimes stalls offroad - without even putting her foot down.
Stuck in a mudhole, tired after intense riding, sure I've longed for it too, but the longterm extra weight and reliability issues - no thanks. I have no interest in standing still, carrying or leading my bike like hard enduro Romaniacs or Erzberg. They are impressive and they seem to rely on their electric starters all the time, but I question if they are riding for fun and most of all - not on the cheap.
That's a great reply and lots of good stories sounds like you had a lot of fun on dirt bikes!
I got both the kick start and electric start on my bike. I use the kick starter exclusively, even when I'm in a pickle, stalled in the middle of a slope and such. There's something about kick starting a bike... that's hard to explain, or even understand. I guess I'm weird.
I have a 01 cr250 and let me tell you looking at your bike was like seeing mine. Minus the graphics and I have a red chain , plus red/black seat and little red misc stuff here and there too but the black plastics to your polished frame and pipe was like looking at my own bike 🤟🏻 I agree with you on the motocross setup being awesome for the trails/enduro as I ride trails here in Hawaii. Got a fmf gold series to shorty exhaust pipe on mine and she screams in the hills !
I've riden a new husky and a 01 cr250. I don't get the $12,000 price tag on the husky. It has zero character and in a few years it will become the equivalent of a 10 year old European car...
The Honda will stand the test of time. If you can get over the long first gear you'll be OK. Out here in the desert it works great.
Oh Im right there with you new bikes are great but if an old one works just the same and often more reliable its an easy choice!
Excellent off road bike.
2nd best bike behind the YZ 😂
HaHa Yamies are good too just not as good! :D
Great bike and MX bikes do quite well as long as there is traction available. I would just add as much flywheel as possible, but I would also revalve that suspension. Plenty of TH-cam video's out that you can revalve it yourself. I do hate kickstarters though.
Great perspective Mr H ,price is definitely number one for me.I seen a old kdx 420 for sale that I would love to have, use to own one in the early eighties, awesome machine. Wish I had a spare 2 grand. Anyway Great video.
Im concerned its too stiff for off road. I like my kdx200 with .43 spring rate race tech springs on the forks with 10 weight oil. Your thoughts? I weigh 185 without gear, 50 years young, advanced intermediate rider.
I had a 82 and a 89 wish I still had them
No problem with personal preference and sentiments. But as a value proposition... eh. $3k to start. Full revalve, pipe, wheel, flywheel weight, tank... another $1k+. Still no electric start, lights, fan. You don't have to scrape for a 20+ yo KTM to get all of the above. 2013-2018 KTMs are available for $5k all day long.
Without Kickstarter...
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Hey bro would you mind giving me your suspension settings
I always have my clickers in around the middle settings maybe a few more clicks in for the compression!
@@HeddleTown cheers for that info mate what gear ratio are you running
Why the hell would you want the bike. Because its still fast then anything new on the market with a few mods and reliability iv had mine since i was 12 im now 28 and iv had to do the top end 1 time because someone swapped my fuel on me before a ride
32:1?
I guess not good for hard enduro lack of bottom end power . What pre mix ratio you run for trail riding ? And what pre mix oil you use ?
Great for hard enduro all depends on rider oil ratio any thing from 35/1 to 50/1
Which Foot Pegs are you running on this bike?!?!?!
Just some of the cheaper Amazon ones, there actually pretty decent for the price!