Movies That Ruined Actor's Careers
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 22 มิ.ย. 2024
- Directors aren't the only ones that go to movie jail - actors & actresses do, too. But their stints differ in that when an actor goes to movie jail, it's rare for them not to be able to land a job at all and it's rare for a single movie to be the culprit, though one movie can usually be identified as an inflection point. Usually, they either need to take a pay cut, move to doing smaller movies, or move to doing TV. But there are a lucky few that are able to stage a glorious, and well deserved, comeback. In this video, we take a look at examples of both.
00:00 Intro
03:50 When Things Just Don't Work Out
13:18 One of The Saddest Cases of Movie Jail
15:17 The Comeback Artists
23:52 Barely the Surface
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Hayden Christensen was at his best in Shattered Glass (2003). It's a shame Star Wars derailed his career the way it did.
I recall Natalie Portman once mentioned that people didn't want to hire her as much after Phantom Menace. It wasn't until Mike Nichols stepped in on her behalf and vouched for her that people started casting her more.
@@Syntopikon They were crushed by the Star Wars hype machine when the movies didn't live up to the original trilogy. The same thing seems to be happening to some of the cast from the Disney trilogy as well.
Nah bro how are you this underatted?!
Great vid!
Much appreciated dude 😎
People call your delivery too flat, but honestly I see a certain charm to it. Reminds me of Defunctland.
That's probably one of the highest honors I could get 👊
A good example of a similar situation, but in the music industry, is what happened to Janet Jackson after nipple-gate. Her career was ruined by conservatives for an action perpetrated by Justin Timberlake, who’s career wasn’t affected. Only recently have people started realizing that he was an a-hole all along
While I don't think it's fair to give her 100% of the blame for that incident, it's ridiculous to pretend that she wasn't somewhat responsible. She knew what she was doing. And yes, Timberlake should have got more of the blame then he did too, but it's not like he was the only one responsible. And criticism came from just about everybody (except for people who just didn't care), not just one side of the political aisle.
@@troodon1096 well yeah, they were both responsible/complicit, but it doesn’t justify the complete obliteration of her career for a damn exposed breast when there are/were much worse people doing much worse things, like Epstein, Weinstein, Trump, Polansky, Woody Allen, Steven Tyler
What’s sad about some of these is that acting at the end of the day is still a job, and if that’s your source of income you don’t have the option of always waiting for the perfect screenplay to come along. Losing your career due to being in a bad film is not the same as losing you’re career because you are a bad actor, and bad directors and screenwriters almost never seem to take hit to their careers as quickly or as severely as actors do.
Also these stories are known only because these actors got big enough for people care; there are probably hundreds of similar stories we know nothing about. The main take away is that Hollywood generally is a pretty terrible place to work in.
In a lot of cases, the actor themselves put on a good performance but factors outside of their control end up impacting them. I think Taylor Kitsch and Lynn Collins both do a good job in John Carter - a personal favorite - and neither of them were the issue with the movie. In fact, the movie is a really good time. But because of how much money was put into it, and how it did, it cast a shadow over their career. Andrew Stanton, the director, was in purgatory for a while before Finding Dory made a billion, though he's mostly been doing creative work since then.
I'd say directors do take a hit to their career if the movie loses a lot of money. Writers are the ones that seem to be mostly immune, though it might be because their job ends sooner than others.
There are countless uncovered actors in this video. And even those are the lucky ones - there's probably an order of magnitude more that tried to get into the position of acting at all but were unable to.
I would say that with directors, if you've had one major hit you can ride that wave for quite a few flops. Take a film like The Sixth Sense, I doubt Samalyan would have gotten nearly the number of chances and the budgets he still had to work with if that film had not been as big as it was. Showgirls might have been a flop but Vorhoven is still working.
Actors are treated as if they should be able to turn crap into gold.
Lindsay Lohan should've been the top of the throne in this video. God I hope she can make a comeback despite her many, MANY, attempts
She's making something of a quasi-comeback now, I think. I recall reading a THR article about her Netflix movie (or show?) not long ago. She's still pretty young, so I think there's a good chance.
Lindsay can’t act anymore. Her schtick is too early 2000s. She has no depth as an actress.
Somehow you've found a way to make content that feels fresh and interesting. Keep up the amazing work.
It's really unfair about Hayden Christianson. No one's ability to act should be measured by how convincing they were in a George Lucas film. Rather,how UNconvincing they were,because George Lucas cannot direct an actor to a believable performance to save his life. Nor can he write dialog.
I agree! I always loved Hayden and thought he was a great actor. one of my favorite movies with him was Factory Girl.
It's pretty telling that about the only star that went on to have a phenomenal movie career from acting in a Star Wars film is Harrison Ford. Alec Guinness, Samuel L. Jackson, Natalie Portman, and a few others already had important roles prior to Star Wars while Mark Hamill, Carrie Fisher, Hayden Christensen, and others didn't really go on to become movie stars.
George Lucas can write dialogue, is just not the dialogue that you wait from any other film, he has his own style, might not be the best, but it works within the Star Wars universe, considering all the terms and names (he helped in the latino/mexican dub, really good actually), any of them have become iconic (just look at the memes), some are even beautiful, take Yoda, Qui-Gon, Obi-Wan, Dooku and Palpatine's lines, there are wise messages there, even Anakin's lines aren't that bad, I think Hayden acted better in Episode 3.
George Lucas might not be the best director of actors, he's rather a more visual man who prefers action over words.
@@jesustovar2549 don't get me wrong,he's an excellent world builder. Not to mention that he more or less single handedly outlined what is possibly the most well known and beloved story of the past three generations and counting. I think that he's amazing when it comes to the broad strokes. I would love to have read a novel of his,had he ever written one. But I do think that the dialogue he writes for his characters is stilted and unnatural sounding, and that he would've done well to have someone make another pass at the scripts he's written. Just to punch up characters' lines a little bit. And while he can't get a good performance even out of actors who are proven to be great at their craft,it's okay cuz he doesn't HAVE to be a great director OR a great screenwriter. He clearly has no shortage of skill where it counts the most. I just would've liked to have seen a prequel trilogy with different directors for the second and third installments like the original trilogy had,as well as a script doctor to revise some of the dialog. After all...no man is an island,as they say.
I guess you haven’t seen American Graffiti.
Keep up the good work man, you’ll blow up soon.
I appreciate it!
The supply of talented actors, directors, writers, etc. will always exceed the available jobs, so it isn’t surprising that rising actors can wreck their careers. But it is surprising when actors with a solid track record of success can’t find work. But even going back to the 1930’s and 1940’s the saying was “You’re only as big as your last box office.” :"Box office jail” is just an update of “box office poison.” Katharine Hepburn is a famous example of a “box office poison” star who made a major comeback.
Joan Crawford is another example, I believe " Mildred Pierce" was her comeback. Bette Davis, until "All About Eve"...
Can you think of any guys? Curious.
Rising star Stuart Townsend being replaced by Vigo Mortensen for the role of Aragorn is a big one. He pretty much vanished after that.
This is absolutely amazing keep up the great work can’t wait to see more 🔥!
I appreciate it!
Really interesting! Thanks for ending on the comebacks :)
Glad you liked that! Always nice to finish on an up note. One hopes that most actors, in the future, end up in the comeback side.
Should've mentioned 1989's Wired, the John Belushi "biopic" (if you can even call it that). Got abismal reviews, and Chiklis got avoided by almost every major studio like the plague.
I loved the story he told about Burt Reynolds, I think Reynolds partied a couple of times with Belushi, and Chiklis met Reynolds at a party!not many of Belushis friends liked the movie at all!Reynolds would slap some stars at parties for being rude to friends of his!Chiklis thought Reynolds would do that and was ready to get into a fistfight wity Reynolds as he approached!instead Reynolds gave him a big smile and gave him a firm handshake!im pretty sure its on Party of Four here on yt, the fun series with actors and actresses talking about movies and such!
Great vid!
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I blame the studio for John Carter. That budget was ridiculous for a movie based on a character lot of young people didn’t know.
Yup. Should've been way cheaper.
Just dicovered your Channel - Great work , keep going !
Thanks, and will do! 😎
What I don't understand is why an actor like Michael Keaton...who was just fantastic in his supporting role during Jackie Brown...had THE worst time finding roles again worth his talent for the longest time until Inarritu resurrected his career w/ Birdman.
Good job. I read on the internet that John Carter has become something of a small cult film and gave it a go. It is in fact better than it appeared when it came out. It seems Disney really messed up the marketing (starting with a terrible title, John Carter of Mars, or Princess of Mars would probably been better). Anyway Taylor Kitch was not the problem. Poor guy has been treated too harshly for some reason. Especially after such good work in Friday Night Lights.
You're right on about the marketing - I they should've gone with the original "A Princess of Mars", because the novel was already so old and no one really had a connection to some dude named "John Carter". I'm glad you enjoyed it! It's a solid, fun action adventure movie and we don't really get many like it anymore. Kitsch and Collins both did an admirable job in it.
It’s a great movie, agreed. I think the high-powered director (Pixar guy) refused to give it a different title - and it definitely hurt.
In 2012, Taylor Kitsch's career was affected by 3 failures at the box office: John Carter, Battleship and Savages. If any of them were a success, maybe he'd get another chance to greatness.
Curiously, in the same year and seasons Channing Tatum had 3 major hits: The Vow, 21 Jump Street and Magic Mike.
There’s quite a few actors who aren’t terrible that get blamed for their movies flopping. It’s more of the director/writers faults.
So many good things to say about all these actors honestly. Acting really seems like a tough gig in my opinion. Like nobody stays on top forever, everyone has some sort of bad movie that caused them to question why they do this. (except Taylor Lautner) I really don't enjoy him in anything except the smashing classic The Adventures of Shark Boy and Lava Girl. Where he displays an amazing martial arts display at such a young age.
You know we're living in the worst timeline when you realise the Indiana Jones 5 that we got, and the Indiana Jones 5 that we could have had...with Short Round (Ke Huy Quan), instead of that beanpole. Imagine the story of a down on his luck Indy, who's given up on life- hearing that Short Round is out there somewhere, kidnapped or looking for treasure or something! And the Indy goes out to save him and they have one final adventure together! God damn. Unforgivable.
Somebody claimed the Winona Ryder thing was also Weinstein. They claimed that normally the store would've just been OK for her to pay for the stuff she took.
Elizabeth Berkeley is a great actress and is underrated.
love your videos, you know hollywood history
Glad you like them. Yup, Hollywood history (any kind of history, really) is a particular favorite of mine. It's interesting to see parallels between the past and modern day.
i honestly feel bad for the guys when this happens would love to see them in more stuff
DO A PART 2!!
I remember seeing a "Free Winona Ryder" t-shirt...
Lol. No great re-evaluation of John Carter has happened. The star was one of the reasons it tanked. That movie is a mess.
Poor Brendan Frazer :(
Why do we see samuel jackson costar with so many of these actors
Lol the guy's ridiculously prolific.
Kudos for calling key hu quan's case AS "racism." It was clearly anti asian racism towards asian/american men. Most reports gloss this over or sugarcoat it.
I'm glad you think the same way. Yeah, I always thought of it as a very clear cut case of racism. Roles for Asian American actors were severely limited and it's really been over the last 5-10 years that things have really begun to change. Still a ways to go but movies & shows like EEAAO, Monkey Man, Beef, and others give me hope.
Blaming racism is cheap. The list of child actors who don’t continue to get roles is long.
But, it must be racism. Jfc.
BD Wong has been working consistently since the early 90s.
Ken Leung for the last 30.
Randall Park the last 20.
Rex Lee the past 20.
Masi Oka since the early aughts.
Jason Scott Lee since the late 80s.
Brandon Lee was a rising action star.
Aaron Yoo since the early aughts.
John Cho since the late 90s.
Kenneth Choi since late 80s.
But I thought that Hollywood was woke. Huh.
It's funny how people try to ignore "African Americans" who speak on Racism/White Supremacy yet think they can immigrate to this country and play victim when they were warned decades ago.
And Racism is Anti-"Black"-ness (White Supremacy) nothing more. You obviously like ignoring the Melanated Asians that are discriminated against by the Key Hu Quans of Asia.
Keep trying, we aren't in the same side.
So we me and my estranged dad went and saw savages for some reason. wtf!
Help...rebel moon is bad,sorry...
Elizabeth Berkley's front two teeth were always too wide.
Idk if i see Taylor Lautner from this perpective. I see him as a small role smart comedy actor who was in one series of drama films(twilight) and then went right back to small but smart comedy. As a fan, Cuckoo was his best role, way better than Jacob Black(and i saw this as a twilight fan too)
John carter is 6/10
The lesson here seems to be, stop pouring hundreds of millions into producing and marketing these bloated films
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Nice content! However, when you speak, your delivery has an upward inflection (like you’re asking a question) , and pause after nearly every word. If you’re reading into a mic, you might want to try a more natural flow. It’s difficult to listen to and very unique. Anyone else hearing this??
I was taught, here in Australia, that you inflect upward with a comma and down with a full stop (period), which is what he is doing. Sounds good to me.
@@tezzag818it's more prevalent in Australia than in the US
Sounds great to me
get used to it
This is an example of productive criticism. You offered a positive, that you like the content, then explained, in a positive way, an improvement and how it could be attained. Excellent!!
Please explain Natalie Portman..every movie..EVERY MOVIE..has done poorly and yet she’s cast over and over again..even Black Swan didn’t do particularly well..maybe her movies are supposed to fail..? Money laundering?
She is an amazing actress?
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how about michael fassbender?
I think in Fassbender's case, it's because he wanted to focus more on racing. I think he's trying to get back into the swing of acting now.
John Carter was a pretty solid film. The backstory is well known the studio had shenanigans in not wanting it to succeed too much and was poorly marketed. And spending so much money on a film about books made 100 years ago had way more to do with its failure than anything on screen. I really have not seen much in audience reaction saying the leads were terrible. How the leads to this movie got the brunt of the fallout really was not fair to them at all. They had nothing to do with the budget or marketing and were relative newcomers. It smacks of Hollywood wanting a scapegoat that was "not them"
Hollywood, you keep screwing these people, and we won't be shelling out big bucks for your latest content... most of which sucks more than ever, anyway!!!
And for the record, I ALSO enjoyed John Carter... immensely! Taylor Kitsch and Lynn Collins did NOT deserve what happened to their careers because of this one movie failing to find a big enough audience, especially after the hard earnest effort they put into this!!!
Thankfully, a lot of people seem to be coming around to John Carter being a solid movie that was let down by marketing + a massive budget more than anything else.
It's really just bad timing for Winona Ryder and Mel Gibson. Shoplifting and hating jews is really trendy now
Explain how Kathleen Kennedy still has a job.
Hollywood is a relationship business, and Kathleen Kennedy has built those relations since she started producing for Spielberg in the 80s. A lot of it is probably carryover from past successes and the hope that she'll be able to recreate it on the new ones.
But the budgets are so large, that unless the movies have good word of mouth (which they don't, considering the billion dollar dropoff between Force Awakens and TROS), it'll be impossible for them to be successful at the box office. So 2 choices remain for Lucasfilm:
1. Make better movies.
2. Reduce the budget by at least $100M+ (Solo cost $300M, TROS was $400M)
Dude dont listen to anyone about your voice. 70% of the reason I've devoured all your content is to try and figure out if its annoying, or if I'm listening to figure out if its annoying...
Jk, it's unique, i fuckin die laughing sometimes when you say, "moviejill" (movie jail). Its just such a funny idea...movie JAIL..your delivery is so nonchalant about it...."movie jail. Yawn."
Lol I appreciate it. Still, I think I can improve on some of the delivery.
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*Elizabeth Berkley has always been a terrible actress. She is lucky to have gotten as far as she did with so little talent.*
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Lily Collins had a lot of flops too and still he kept going... I wonder why.
You know what actor would have been great to play child Anakin?
Joseph Mazzello from Jurassic Park. He probably was a little too old for the role, but screw it! He wouldn't have been annoying and terrible like Jake Lloyd.
I wish you'd stop saying HE'S name. Do you know how many times I threw up listening to this?
Most of the actors whose careers have fizzled have one thing in common. They suck. They got work cause they were pretty and lacked the talent to follow through. Sorvino was the least talented actress to ever win an Oscar. She got work because of Paul.
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