Stephen Krashen: secrets of Second Language Acquisition. "Together for Ukraine" interview.
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 7 ส.ค. 2022
- Dr. Krashen is Emeritus Professor of Education at the University of Southern California. He is known worldwide for his work in establishing a general theory of second language acquisition, the input hypothesis, and promoting free voluntary reading.
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To support teachers from Ukraine during the war, I have organised a series of free talks and interviews with leading figures from language teaching.
So glad I watched this!! Learning about Stephen’s research in my masters program and I was so excited to hear his opinions on dyslexia! I’m a mom to a teenager with dyslexia and now this summer I do believe we shall spend it at the library and the comic book store!!
This feels like a hidden gem. It’s a miracle that this is free, thank you so much!
"Accent means membership" Great quote
Dr. Stephen Krashen is legend
Kiitos paljon!
Dr. Stephen Krashen, greetings from Indonesia. My name is Armand and I used to teach the national language of Indonedia to expatriates who came to serve here. I am familiar with your books and methods of acquisition language which we used at our language school.
Our school was established in 1970 by Dr. Edmund Anderson based on the teachings of the late Dr. Donald Larsen from Bethel College, Minesotta.
May GOD Almighty bless you and your service in the field of linguistics. 🇲🇨
I graduated in 1986 from the Linguistic University in Minsk to be a teacher of Spanish and English. And this is the methodology we used to introduce primary school kids to a foreign language. For at least 2 months, there was no writing or reading. Just speaking by playing games.
Honestly I scored college level reading and writing from reading romance novels, when I was 17 so I love books. I also learned a large amount of spanish from reading genealogy records in spanish because it interested me. I agree with Dr. Krashen you learn more when its pleasurable.
That's the spirit I want to find in my respected sir!
His word are treasures
When I was like 5-6 years old, I learned reading mostly via comic books. I also liked playing Kingdom Hearts on my PS2, but I wasn't very good at it. A friend of mine couldn't read yet, but was far better at the game than I was. So I'd come to his place to play, where he would practically carry me, while I read the dialogue. We did this for some time, when one day while I was about to read him the dialogue on screen, he started reading it out loud, to my surprise.
So yes, video games can definitely, in a way, help learn to read and acquire language.
Video games are compelling
HE'S MY HERO
Great interview, I totally agree with the importance of reading and a various selection of literature on different reading levels available in the classroom libraries. I have done this model of L2 teaching for years, with great effects. Thank you for this informative interview.
He's wise and a true educator
Love the work you have done Mr Stephen krashen. Greetings from India 🇮🇳
This confirmed my personal experience in learning English in high school through 2-3 years of free voluntary reading of mostly fiction, going from near zero English to 99 percentile on the SAT. Can't speak to others' experiences, but it certainly worked for me. It's a shame that governments around the world are not implementing policies to take advantage of this truth.
I want to ask you for some advice because I wanna try to do the same ( I love reading ). Every time you read and don't know one or more words you stop the lecture and search for it or continue reading, and only if you don't understand the gist of the sentence do you start to search for it.
@@wedocreations This depends on how much tedium you can endure without losing the joy of reading. The primary object is to keep the level of fun and excitement from reading high (i.e., compelling) enough so that you don't stop reading. However, if you can be self-disciplined enough to do it, I think looking up every single word makes you a better, more lucid, and exact thinker. Guessing the meaning from context is a good exercise and a necessary trick in real life and exams, but you could guess wrong, very wrong sometimes or just end up with a fuzzy, not quite correct understanding of the word. Verifying the exact meaning plus learning all of the grammatical information, usage, variant spellings and pronunciations, and etymology of the word by looking it up in the dictionary will improve your English much, much more. Even though the story you read is the fun part, finding out information about a word can be a joy in itself. The gist of this method, however, can be expressed with two concepts: fun and comprehension. The reason I was looking up every single word was to achieve total, precise, accurate comprehension, including the exact nuance used, the historical or social context of the word, etc. But fun comes first at all costs. And as long as you are achieving both fun and passable comprehension, the rest is icing on the cake. I wish you much joy and happiness in your readings.
Thanks for sharing this video. It's really helpful.
Gracias por este video. Es genial, los acabo de descubrir! Thanks! :)
Thank you for talk from Stephen Krashen - I teach English with comprehensible Input on TH-cam - Rachelle from Dreaming English and Boston
I remember enjoying watching The Magic School Bus; I would make at least the majority of my SCHOOL that way...hands-on, direct potential for acquisition...reading will accompany 'classes' that have 'higher competency'....FUN, EASY, COMPELLING, right...wholesome experiences, intuitive, instinctive, creative, childlike, adventurous,..etc...THAT's how I already do it in my online sessions, despite some "limits".
wow, great
Frank Smith gives great examples of how we learn accents by being a member of the club. English aristocrats don’t speak like their nannies who raise them, but like their parents. Kids will speak like their teachers if they feel like they are part of that teacher’s “club”.
I learn a great deal by listening to, not just reading, other languages. I suppose mr. Krashen would agree. Would he not? Having said this, I ask you all: Is there graded listening? It would be a good idea to make audiobook versions of those graded reading books.
I agree almost at every point when we are talking about children, but when I think about teaching adults, I have some doubts, especially when teaching a class.
My whole life I followed those "laws" it worked perfectly but I'm also a little defensive when it comes to group learning/studying
Where this book "The power of reading" can be downloaded from?
Could you share the names of the books please?
OMG. I can’t read a gift book to save my life! Thank you. 😂
Interested in second language acquisition, Slava Ukrajini🇺🇦 best greetings from Vienna
For Europeans it is funny that English speakers are so monolingual but I also found that Ukrainians are rather monolingual in Ukrainian and/or Russian, the pleasure reading I always did instinctively😂 but only if the authors' implicit and explicit understanding of language is excellent
if in future I need to particiapte. what is the procedure?
thanks .teacher .I got a question .should I read it loudly or silently .which one is better ?
The silent way is better
i want to know can anything from 1st language acquisition be employed in 2nd language acquisition?
Yea i think he said it in one of his videos on yt that theres no difference and its the same (im not sure tho). But logically and psychologicaly speaking i dont think there is any reason for it to be different
If somebody helps me. What's the test he talked on minute 40?
TOEIC
During the pandemic? Was this recorded in 2021 and just released?
I hosted the interview on July 10, 2022.
@@wereallinthistogether168 well, you can tell he’s from CA I guess. America shut down to save 1 life, but 100’s of thousands are starving because we shut down and leftist extremist like Krashen are still talking about locking down as if it wasn’t causing world wide mass destruction. It’s a testimony to how a very educated person can be very unintelligent and blinded by their own self righteousness.
Very interesting, and i can confirm than i only learned english once I started cosumming huge amount of tv series and movies I liked from bbc and american tv.
I then started to read multiple books in english (Terry Pratchett, Joseh Conrad) and i became fluent while my friends didn't progress at all.
But I had bases from school, how do you start with another language like turkish for example ?
you need to learn thousands of boring vocab before you are able to listen...
Started learning Turkish 3-4 times but always gave up I think it is about motivation but I'll start again😂
I’ve been studying Portuguese for 9 years now but I still can’t read or converse yet and I have to translate everything into English to understand. I study and practice every day with my girlfriend who only speaks Portuguese and we’ve been practicing for 6 years now but I still can’t understand her. I have classes, read books, use apps and watch movies and TH-cam videos. I need to find a way to learn without translating everything into English. I’ve visited Brasil 18 times too but I haven’t had a conversation yet. It’s been very frustrating.
This is beyond me
Sounds like the basis of a beautiful relationship.
@@hellbooks3024 yes it is! You are very perceptive.
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Noam Chomsky... Mr. Krashen, you are far better than him! He is just analysing grammatical rules in his office all day and you have helped humanity so much! Bless you
I came to language learning late in life and am still in the very beginning stages. I am very excited about the learning process and have been absorbing as much as I can find. It really breaks my heart the this lecture turned political. I’m not criticizing your right to speak your mind. I am criticizing you venue. I promise you that if politics was mentioned in the title I wouldn’t have watched.
I am a prime example of first learning Tagalog was a total failure using the grammar method and now after 1,500 hours of stories being read to me over three years I have failed to say anything past hello and a few other short phrases. I have written about this failure over the years and I am sure a 300 page book would easily be filled with my posts and comments on language and failure. I keep pushing the Natural Method but I don't know why since it has failed me. I thought it would work after listening to many videos on it. It failed. I am no looking for therapy or medications to fix this problem. My life is one of near complete loneliness in the Philippines since I cannot understand people when with others. So I stopped going to any gathering. I sit at home all day. Of course this cannot continue much longer.
Kaya mo yan bro! Wag lang hihinto sa pag aral 👍 i'm a filipino struggling to learn japanese
Maybe you made some mistakes somewhere. I applied this method and suceed with it
Loneliness is your problem not learning Tagalog go and help poor people without a knowledge of English you will have meaning in your life the language will follow
@@squaretriangle9208 I have stated being alone, lonely and isolated is a major problem here. So this is not news. Teaching others English with by grammar will not help them learn English or me Tagalog. A clever disarming remark from you does not help me in being conversationally fluent in Tagalog.
@@nonselfish I have spoken to one professor known to many who said I need 400 more hours of storytelling and describing pictures divided between both. Adding words by LingQ continues to get me more words, I guess, via their review calculation but understanding conversation and talking continues to fail. I do not know why Krashen and Steve Kaufman will not address this issue. They can interview me. I will tell them my story and he can evaluate. I know others like me here. In fact all nonTagalog speakers I personally know gave up. Many were not native English speakers nor European languages speakers. One said he just could not understand why. Another fluent in two other languages gave up after every time he asked what something meant a debate between Filipinos left him with five choices and no clear answer. The stories of frustration are endless.
That's rad 😁😎
How's Javier Milei doing, tho? 😂🎉😅
You still look young.
Talking about video games, there are some so called Text based video games, what about those?
I will try purely the input method with Russian....
how's it going?
@@jr.jackrabbit10 I am doing some duolingo at the moment to get used to the Russian alphabet and learn basic words. I will be reading some grammar too but not to learn just to have an idea of the structures I can expect. As soon as I am able I will start listening and reading simple stories.I don't like duolingo. A friend recommended it to me. Probably sooner than later I will leave it.😇
I am not joking, and I am wondering if the erotic fictions might be more fascinating and helpful in terms of language acquisition.
I can teach all Cambodians to speak basic English in 3 months time.
It's interesting until the cringe about his politics and "empathy".
Another flaming leftist like Chomsky. I don’t listen to flaming leftists.
Read Grammar books by yourself not in classes.
In cornu tauri parva sedebat musca. "Si te nimis gravo," inquit, "statim avolabo." Taurus respondet: "Ubi es? Nihil sentio."
The above is the story of Comprehensible Input, one of the most, perhaps, the most redundant, useless, lazy, boring courses in language teaching and learning. Congratulations to His Royal Highness, His Excellency, the Most Reverend, Professor Doctor, Sir Stephen Krashen for taking not just all the hard work but, indeed, all the work out of teaching and learning a language!
Grammar? Haha! Forget about it!
Vocabulary? Raspberries to that knowledge of meaning.
Just absorb everything anybody says and you'll be inspired and able to speak like a native speaker in five minutes flat!
And there are no papers for the teacher to mark! So he can sit on his backside, as well!.
What's your alternative?
I'm a student teacher and I like this approach, I think having SSR in classes followed by group discussions where students ask questions could be beneficial. It exposes students to authentic examples of the language, gives them intrinsic motivation, formulaic expressions and gets students to start asking themselves questions. I think that's the foundation to becoming good at language, comprrhensible input, identifying problems in your comprehension and asking questions to come to a solution. I think some explicit instruction is required but it shouldn't be the start, rather a tool to fine tune the students own understanding.
Where do you disagree, like what is your strategy?
"I think some explicit instruction is required but it shouldn't be the start,"
How else can you start?
"rather a tool to fine tune the students own understanding."
Understanding of what? How can a student know anything of a language - spelling, pronunciation, grammar - without some knowledge, which must have been explicitly given.
@@johnjustice8478 How did you learn English as a child John? Did your mam and dad explicitly explain every part of the language to you?
The current approach is successful according to tests, but it is not teaching anyone how to speak a language. I went to school in a CLIL environment, all the subjects were taught in Irish, my L2. In my first year, I learned more Irish in History than I did in Irish.
Why? Because I had an interest in history and I wanted to learn more about it.
My point is that if the content is interesting, students will be motivated. Keeping students intrinsically motivated is the key. If students are reading books, comics, and magazines ( it could be National geographical or a fashion magazine) the teacher can pick an element of the language to focus on. You could get students to list the verbs, categorise the verbs in to -ar, -er and -ir verbs. And you can go right through Bloom's taxonomy. Teachers could begin to get students to begin questioning how the language works. I think it was Elisha 2017 creating effective questioning in the classroom that said that getting students to ask meaningful questions is the key to learning.
Pretty much John, I think that Krashen is right, the audiolingual approach isn't working. If we do not have comprehensible input, how can we learn? And do most students remember their grammar lessons? I would argue that most learning of the grammar is done in the lessons after due to reinforcing, but why not do it in reverse? Have reading, do exercise get students to question what they know and don't know and then, when you have the students curiosity peaked and they know what they want to know, teach the grammar to fine tune.
What do you think?
Pseudoscience. In order for Chinese to be comprehensible, I need to understand what the sentences mean. This will not come from trying to read Hanzi and just magically figuring it out.
Chengyu are their own set phrases that will never be comprehensible outside of understanding the unspoken references made within them. You cannot just get the gist of them from guessing the context.
You hit the nail on the head!
And how many languages you speak Stephen 😂😂😂😂
He's been repeating himself for last couple of years. Every interview I've watched, every seminar I've watched he speaks about same anegdots and proofs for his theory. In order to become more interesting and COMPREHENSIBLE, I think he needs to change his speeches
It has been longer than that. I terms of substance, he hasn't evolved much from the book he wrote in 1982. In terms of presentation, the jokes, the pauses, the asides...they've all been the same since the dawn of TH-cam.
He’s been repeating himself, because nothing has changed. It’s still the best way, and people still try everything else EXCEPT that. It’s the same reason if you listen to an interview from billionaire Warren Buffet in 1980 his advice is exactly the same as it is on CNBC in 2016. It just works. 🤷🏾♂️
Sometimes there are rules in life in general. He talks about one of these rules. Rules you know? Rules are what they shouldn't be change because they are rules.
@@hamedkhazaei1062 I do not speak about rules. I'm speaking about a few anegdotes by which he's making his points. French lessons in his youth/chinese kid who learn mandarinian, his anegdotec about spanish language and others...
For more than 10 years he's been telling us about those same anegdotes.. It's become soooo boring. No way there is no new things happened to him considering language acquisition theory..
One of the most disingenuous comments I think I have ever read.
stay out of politics
Why?
He made a negative comment about Donald Trump...
@@TheKonkehagia called free speech😅
Who are you to tell him what he can and cannot talk about
Oh no educators can't talk about their opinion anymore. Also, saying you don't like Trump because he doesn't read books is just about the most tame political commentary I've ever heard anyone say
Stephen Krashen, your relatives from Kiev region in 1900s are not "from Ukraine", they are from Russian Empire. Just like if they had lived in Harbin at that time, it wouldn't have been your "Chinese connection". It would have been "Russian connection".
He knows better from where his relatives. By your logic all nations who was in that empire are Russians ? There were a lot of people who wanted to be independent from it
@@user-lr5ps9vz4k Exactly. All people in Russian Empire were Russian nationals (subjects). Just like all people in Austro-Hungarian empire at that time were Austro-Hungarian nationals (including those Ukrainian speaking who immigrated to Canada and were sent to concentration camps during WWI because they were considered "enemy aliens").
Well, I understand that if instead of vague "Ukrainian connection near Kiev" Stephen Krashen will use factual "Yiddish speaking Jewish from Kiev Governorate of Russian Empire" TH-cam might just cancel him. We all know why.
This isn't really a great time to be denying that Ukrainian national identity exists. This is very close to sounding like a current anti-Ukrainian talking point.
@@gee8883 me telling someone that what they're saying is bad is not a threat to anyone's freedom of speech.
@@ADHDlanguages That is exactly what these hypocrites deserve. They have been killing people of Donbas for 9 years. Do not deny war crimes of the Ukrainian savage army. I am quite sure you did not give a hack about the bloody coup d'état of 2013-2014 years and the genocide of the Russan-speaking people in Donbas.
You westerners like speaking about things like Tiananmen but ignore the tragedy of Odessa where people were burned alive by Ukrainian nazi. What is the whole point of your message if you have these double standards?
wow