The Down-Tuning Experiment
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- Does tuning lower make things heavier?
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Someone: What do you tune to?
Me: F standard.
Someone: You tune up?
Me: Nope >:)
TheOddGamer
Someone in 2019: What do you tune to?
Me: F Standard.
2019 n*ggas: You tune down? heavy bro
Me: Lmao naah
I literally tune up to A standard and use a capo
Just buy a shortscale guitar at that point m8
No shame in that
Tuning down to f standard is awesome
Y'all making jokes about F standard when Rob literally has a song in double drop B
Didn't down tune the drums 0/10
Thank you!
Wouldn't that break the drum heads?
MuslimNinjaAssassin Nah. Downtuning means loosening the heads. With enough force (but a lot of it), the head would break. But tightening the drum head would have a higher chance, so I think.
Ben M
From my time in marthning band we done it a lot every 3 shows I think?
MuslimNinjaAssassin It's happened occasionally with my school's drumline as well, but it's rare, since we don't tune heads that often.
It's not heavy unless the strings are literally moving like spaghetti.
Down tune your guitar to the point where it can shoot arrows
And it isnt djent untill the string are literally made of spaghetti
It's not heavy until the strings reach the floor
S p a g h e t t
I tuned my 6 string down to drop e with normal strings. I have no regrets
F# is literally the tuning for an 8 string
Yeah standard tuning for 8 strong ... though Meshuggah goes EADGBEAD so it is kinda 1 step lower with a minor twick where is interval of 2 steps instead of 2.5 step
Yes, or a 6-string in Architects :)
666th like.
i play g flat on a six
I play on the low E down from (E2) down to *F#-1*
"How to turn your strat into a six string bass"
Basically
And how to turn your bass into four string drums
+Nolantis Lol wut
+Nolantis hahaha
LOL
So i guess Drop Q is how non metalhead people hear metal?
yup.
Hello fellow Infidel.
Olex Prost basically yea
non metal head people
Olex Prost no bands play in drop q.
The "Q" stands for questionable choices.
2014: low tuning
2015: 14 fret capo metal
That's not heavy enough I tune my guitar to flat, no note, just flat
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Show me the ways
@@c-dawgeyee9931 I perfer drop ₱¡‽√♠•♦√Ω§¶∆↓°∞ tuned ⅞ of an octave
Jesus
Drop Q: the closest you'll get to playing on actual spaghetti.
Drop Xflat *gets spaghetti* well looks like im using this 😂
I prefer drop π in a shoe lace but that's just me. The tone just feels great.
+SpectacularName Epic comment! :D
+SpectacularName
I want to see that now. Actual spaghetti guitar strings. Make it possible, Rob!
I've actually heard of someone who put their bass strings in a pot of water and boiled them…
0:32 A swarm of flies
1:34 A swarm of bees
2:10 A swarm of wasps
3:10 A swarm of prehistoric dragonflies
3:50 Dad with the belt
😂
Guitarrists: I hate bass guitar
Also guitarrists: Drop E
Stolen like 300th time
@@RikaFurude6969 oui
Sadly I cannot like
Drop E would be a whole step higher on the rest of the strings than bass tuning, E1 standard is bass tuning
@@shlak 8 string guitars E Standard is basically a bass because of the E1 A1 D2 G2 C3 F3 A3 D4 and Drop E1 was what he was referring to as in E1 B1 E A D G B E.
Unless i completely misunderstood you
It's like following Dante through the layers of Hell
I can't believe I actually got the reference😏
Me too lol
Couldn't have put it better myself.
Great reference! I cant believe someone put it here
Very well said. I'd tip my fedora if i was gay
Me: Hey Rob, what tuning do you use in that song?
Rob: D R O P Q
Drop Q? Pah, how about Q standard with the option to drop?
Nate Monoxide how about ZZ standard
This is standard q
Not drop q
Drop tunnings are gay af
Well, that got REALLY out of hand...
i fuckin love you ahahahaha
WTF!
heavy heavy :p ... your fingers o.O ouch!
Sounded like Mortician gone Prog...
Drop Q... DONT GIVE BLACK METAL MORE IDEAS!!!
When the high E string starts to have wrapping around it you know that you’ve gone too far.
@Riccardo Milliava what? the low e is always wound. he's saying that once you need a high e string that's wound, you know you've gone too far.
@Riccardo Milliava sorry if my comment came off as rude lol
Well done! Crazy riff, great bass playing! FWIW, I thought it was great around the "C" region, after that, it definitely became a "diminishing returns" thing.
*****
no... A... unless you are meshuggah, in which case go as low as you like
Actually, id like to see meshuggah play Bleed in E tuning and compare that
i think that might have been a loss of clarity more than anything
I liked it most in D# or D
I think that it depends on how you play it, especially the palm mutes and the way you attack the strings. The band Sylosis sounds really really heavy and they play on E standard.
Juan José Fonseca Godoy Sylosis makes it sound like fucking B standard. It's the combination of adding the fifth below the root while palm muting the fuck out of it and the bass hitting the root. Much respect to them for playing like that.
in a pursuit for the heavy, Rob Scallon ripped out his intestines and started playing them.
Chappie now that’s fucking metal
that would make one hell of a comic strip.
Are you saying he's fat?
Back to the original roots..
or how black metal is, of course
@@Holagrimola how the fuck is that a way of saying he’s fat? Do you always assume things like this? Do you seriously have no other reason in life other than to be super offended by things you arent even being told? Sad
The lowest I've ever tuned would probably be Drop ∆, though I've thought about tuning downward to Drop =_=.
Drop Delta. so heavy.
So its heavey as shit
SaintSentry drop 🅱️
nah, drop 189 is where it's at. 10000000000 octaves lower than drop 🅱️, and you thought THAT was low, it's about 100 octaves lower than Drop =_= and 254 octaves lower than drop ∆. Also, can someone show me how to italic a TH-cam comment?
That's pretty heavy but have you ever played in drop þ§æłįøę
Plot twist: it’s all in standard E and it’s just a plecibo
It’s all vibrations man
Plecibo
This video proves that heaviness comes from the riff more than the tuning. To me this riff just wasn't heavy, so no amount of tuning lower will make it heavy.
Honestly i think it sounded heaviest/best in standard E
venrakdrake
agreed
Yes, I believe it has to do with the tone of your guitar.
I think the drums have more to do with the heaviness than the tune itself
RelativelyLargeJohn Tbh the riff sounded like smthn youd hear in a death song.
This turned into a Jared Dines video
Yep
Thomas Duncan this came way before Jared dines started doing this.
Da Guitar Guy
I know that but still
Except it's funny
Ivan Lunev got that right
If you are one of those who thinks that lower tunings are "heavier", I'll say this: Paramore guitarist uses drop C# tuning. Just for you all to consider it.
+DrakosLord Sum 41 uses drop C# on some songs on their album Chuck, namely "Angels With Dirty Faces", "I'm Not the One" and "Moron". They're good songs, I'm practicing "Angels With Dirty Faces" on bass. But drop C# really isn't that much lower than standard, it's just drop D and a half step down.
Roddor FJ Exactly! And yeah, I know. Point is that is not the tuning, but the way you play.
DrakosLord It's worth noting also that those are Sum 41's heaviest songs.
It's also worth noting that drop C# is one semi-tone lower thand Drop D. Which, ummmmm, isn't exactly pushing it in terms of down-tuning.
Rafael Irias Ochoa This. It's a half step lower than Foo Fighters.
_"If you can't be heavy in standard, you're not heavy."_
-somebody of significance
aka James Hetfield
It makes Journey listenable, though :-"
Sylosis, probably.
Basically Pantera
And honestly the riff wasn't that great to begin with.
Personally, I think that every riff has a tuning that it sounds best in, which usually ends up being the original tuning it was written in. To me this riff sounded best in Eb/D#, but some people will disagree, and at the end of the day everything we do is subjective and there's no real "right" answer.
real right answer is when you play finished song and it sounds FUCKING awesome
Psh. Drop Q. Rob, is that the heaviest you can go? It should be more like Drop ß.
Naw man drop ًميجصةءء•٢٥٥ is the heaviest
+The Brainiac no... Drop💩 is the heaviest
+Sleight of Hand you ruined it
+Sleight of Hand you fucked it big time
Nah man, drop Ъ is where it's at! You can't even pronounce it!
I have one question about the Golden Gate Bridge. Does it djent?
!!!!!
😮sometimes😮
only when people jump off of it.
Sergio Flores That comment makes you deserve to be able to do that. It's a once in a lifetime opportunity!
BUT DOES IT DJEEEEEENT
i play drop [REDACTED] and this is the least heavy stuff i have heard.
ER reference?
plebs... I play on quadruple drop µ. Nothing on this earth can create the sound and even if it could no living being could hear it.
That’s it? I once tuned down to drop Д̸̞̰̣͈͈̪̌̔́̽̀̓͋͜ and threw up from how heavy it was
Drop №‽¡₱Ωπ§∆✓ sharp is what I use, peasants.
No doubt
I play a 95 000 000 piece drum kit with the reso skins tuned to exactly § flat major on every second peg and § sharp minor on every other peg.
I play bridge cables
WTF THE DROP Q
Q Q Q Q Q Q for the 6 string version
Solaire No, it has to be Qb, Qb, Qb, Qb. Qb, and Qb for the 6-string version..
Dillon Smith Rb Rb Rb Rb for bass
Yasss
Djoes this Djent? Watch my vid Djenting a vintage BASS VI double drop D, maybe it's what you need?
I prefer drop Z tuning myself
i go drop z# always
+Pranav Dhokre i always tune in to drop DJENT
nah gotta be quad drop z for tr00 djent
CYBORG POTATO drop it 5 times to make it djent tr00er
I always go for Drop 0 flat myself
If you like to make the comparison between one tuning and the other:
0:14 - E
0:32 - D#
0:51 - D
1:11 - C#
1:34 - C
1:52 - B
2:09 - A#
2:33 - A
2:51 - G#
3:10 - G
3:28 - F#
3:49 - ?¿
The last one maybe is Drop E
Pfft, you only play Drop Q? What's happened to metal these days?
lol that's great
wonder why nobody uses drop x
sword slinger Please. Drop Z0 only
Right right of course
+Aerin Draconis The Fox drop ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
I like how you only use the top 3 strings but still changes the other 3
Omg
Yes, because tuning one string effects the tension of all 6, so you have to.
He actually uses 5. Look at the fucked up chord at the end of the song
Or 4
My Horror FestEvil found he beginner guitarist
I perfer to tune my guitar to drop off a cliff
3:46 when your high e can replace your low a
If your band isn't playing in Drop Q, sign to a pop label.
Wouldn't drop Q actually be really high?
It's so low, that it dropped off the front of the alphabet and looped around to Z, then kept falling till it got to Q.
Sean Ramey twice
Cooner Smaff *Top 10 Questions Science Can't Answer*
Depends on the octave.
After a certain level of down-tuning it just starts sounding like bass.
Or death
+Sir Huebert Cumberdale death bass
+Sir Huebert Cumberdale or soot and poo.
+Zoink foo i must disagree
+Zoink foo Sorry I know this hasn't anything to do with what you wrote but when i change tuning do i have to re-set up the truss rod?
*E standard?* What is this witchcraft?
Drop Z# is standard tuning surely.
A wondering O'Neil loser I only tune to Zb on the highest string
Oh, I thought it was drop 9b
The "drop Q" tuning actually offered an interesting effect. It sounded pretty cool. I guess down-tuning doesn't really offer much in the way of 'heaviness,' but still makes sense in terms of transposition.
i feel like there's no legit reason to dislike rob scallon besides jealousy
Isaiah Gomez Correct.
I disliked because the riff didn’t lend itself towards the experiment in the first place, rendering the video as pointless. It just wasn’t heavy in any tuning.
Joe Jane aren’t you just special
I prefer tuning my 20 strings octo-sub-guitar to AT LEAST ü.
ü flat is better.
+Lavaz666 666 octaves
+Lavaz666 brütal
djent all the way?
Brutal
Lavaz666 You imposter, 😠😠
Drop Q is just Technical Grindcore.
That poor guitar. I hoped it was burned and laid to rest after this.
..LAY THIS TO REST
CONSOLE YOUTSELF YOURE BETTER ALONE DESTROY YOURSELF SEE WHO GIVES A FUCK
@@124avenged IF THERE WAS A DAY I COULD LIVE
@@ElKimesito IF THERE WAS A SINGLE BREATH I COULD TAKE
@@broondjongen I'D TRADE ALL THE OTHERS AWAY
Now i know what pure distortion sounds like
I honestly expected to hear a much bigger difference in heaviness. Makes me rethink why all of those metal players are in drop b and drop a
this was a fairly poor example because single coil guitars tend to lack the depth and bottom end that guitars with humbuckers have, especially lower tunings
yeah, I guess that's true, but their are still a small handful of metal players who use single coils
This guitar has a humbucker in the bridge position
oh, kinda hard to see with the camera angle
Waylon Morley the model of humbucker matters too. stock humbuckers on guitars, usually the generic ones - like Fenders - have awful low end the lower you go. high output HB's like the Nazgul and EMG 81 have much better sound for those low notes
3:45 and this is where the G string becomes a lamp post
Drop Q is the tuning Dillinger Escape Plan plays in.
It sounds like shit, is what I'm saying.
Tristan Mahler So basically you're so obsessed with DEP that you bring them up when literally no one was talking about them.
Monster Fukk If that'll let you sleep at night, sure.
***** They all have talent but it's not pulled together in any coherent way. I love math metal, but it still has to sound like music for me to enjoy it.
Tristan Mahler Absolutely. My brother is obsessed with The DEP. Its playing all the time at our apartment. That's when I go to my room and crank the amp. Gotta drown that audible piss!
For everybody claiming that downtuning really makes you "heavier", it does not. The way that you play, the theory and scales you use, your guitar, amp and signal chain, and your rhythm section are what really determines how "heavy" your metal is.
Look at bands like Lamb of God, Children of Bodom, Pantera, and Testament. None of those bands tune lower than C# Standard or Drop C. Lamb of God stuff is in Drop D or Drop C#. Children of Bodom is in D Standard or Drop C. Pantera is anywhere from E Standard (Cowboys), D Standard (Vulgar and Driven) to C# standard (Trendkill). And a lot of Testament is in C# Standard.
These guys make some super killer heavy riffs without downtuning the guitar more than one and a half steps. Pantera even has a fucking amazing breakdown written in E Standard in their song Domination.
After a certain point, you can't even make out specific notes or changes in pitch without compressing the tone to high hell.
Some djent bands (mostly Meshuggah) are cool and pretty damn heavy, but mainly for their killer polyrhythms and Haake's drumming, not for amazingly heavy riffs.
+Jake McB
Lavaz666 Yes, I know that. But saying E Standard was a little bit easier and more understandable than Quarter-Step Below E Standard.
***** And then look at Ashes of the Wake by Lamb of God. Every single track on that record is either in Drop D or D Standard, and I'd argue that as one of the heaviest records I have ever listened to. I agree, heavyness is 100% style, and 0% tuning
***** Oh? Well look at Bleed. 8 String guitar, tuned to F# Standard, but the main riff at the beginning is played on the E string anyways. And to simulate the 5th fret B string bend later in the riff, you could bend behind the nut. All you need is their Axe FX setting and some serious skill and that riff would sound just as good on a 6 string
+Jake McB Are Lamb of God and Children of Bodom really your best examples? Suffocation and Dying Fetus use C#.
I have a bass player in my band
Mark Ferrizzi lol
I like D to C the most, everything is still intelligable and the bass hits hard. B is fine too. Anything beyond that is just unnecessary in terms of string cost etc
Greifvogel agreed. C# has always been my favourite
@@BeefGeneral I think Bolt Thrower plays in C# right? Sounds so good
C and C# forever. But some bands do manage to go lower than that and be listenable. Mainly when playing slow genres. Doom and Sludge metal for example can sound amazing.
@@movimentodoscacos I've been playing in Drop A on my new 6-String for 2 months now and I was surprised to see that I can actually play pretty clean using the new EB Mammoth Slinky
g flat is best
D sharp is the same as E flat right? :/
Sure is
Zidny Zidan congratulations you used your brain
Yep
Yeah
Yeah which is why its more fun to ask people to play a B# Scale Instead of a C scale
Down tuning to the extreme seems to mud up the notes. Definitely heavy, you can feel the riff, just not hear it as much.
I personally just believe that this mix/playing is not tight at all.
There are so many bands tuning down to Drop C, Drop A, Drop F, etc... that have such a clear and open tone with great clarity.
This video, however, is the opposite. I even found it hard to listen to in standard.
Mason Stanley It also depends on the guitar as well. Having good pickups and an extended scale length helps the clarity of the lower notes. The types of wood that the guitar is made out of should also be taken into account.
I can agree there. I originally wanted to go with GDADGBE and instead ended up doing ADADGBE because of too much muddiness. Also still get some muddiness with the ADADGBE but that might just be because of the small 15W amp I use and/or my FX unit itself. lol
Robert Headley that is partly due to the guitar itsself. Single coil and active pickups don't come through clearly through distortion on the really low frequencies, and usually the pickups are designed to handle extremely low notes come on extended range guitars. His equipment just isn't meant to handle anything really past C#
Robert Headley that is partly due to the guitar itsself. Single coil and active pickups don't come through clearly through distortion on the really low frequencies, and usually the pickups are designed to handle extremely low notes come on extended range guitars. His equipment just isn't meant to handle anything really past C#
and there is me, using 11 daddario strings for everything between E and A-Drop
At Drop Q, Junji Ito’s Kuruzou took over the headstock
Oh god drop Q just sounded like farts.
Try to imagine... that's what seems to sound a classic Metal song for a non metalhead... you know when they say "it's just noise"... I think...
guess you could say it we've found the brown note.
Not heavy enough.
hahaha
The actual tuning is "Drop Ass"
Tuning doesn't really affect the heaviness of a song that much. The three things that really matter are the composition itself, production quality/guitar tone, and (only if its not an instrumental) the emotional impact of the lyrics/vocals. There are plenty of songs I've heard in standard tuning that sound way heavier than many 7 or 8 string songs.
Exactly! The composition, in my opinion, is the biggest factor of the heaviness of a song. Take Peace Sells...But Whos Buying? the album. Good Mourning/Black Friday is extremely heavy mostly due to the composition. And the song is in E standard 1/4 down.
TUNE IT DOWN TO H FLAT
THAT SONG IS SO HEAVY!
it makes me want to punch a tornado!
H flat is basically A#, or Bb, which is a common tuning on 7 string guitars :D
I know :D
I know :D
I once tune my guitar 100 step up, now my guitar weight 0.00000001kg
Ha I think D# sounds the heaviest
The D# tuning reminds me of slayer to be honest
Yeah they have been known to use B and A# as well
I think they just played E standard in Show no Mercy
Miles Hodges no, A#
Go Raiders!
I honestly thought drop A was the lowest tuning you get on a guitar for the longest time.
I was proven wrong.
there is no limit
Try E - but one octave lower.
Kickass guitar sound, that is perfect for rhythm based music and ideal for moshpits and what not!
My favorite part of the riff (23 seconds in, palm mutes then the low E) becomes totally different once it gets detuned pretty good. The low note is basically inaudible and has a different feel. Almost less "heavy".
I find myself watching this video at least once a year because it's so dam hilarious.
C# is my favorite. Any lower than that and it's gets hard to hear any of the notes clearly
***** Sunn O))) tune to Drop A and if we could hear all their notes clearly I think they'd feel that they'd failed.
***** i just think it depends on the people , for some people sounds anything shitty which is higher than B standard .
my personal liking is between D/Drop C and B/Drop A
It's called djent
You can always use thicker strings and less gain on your amp when you're down-tuned. It definitely helps with the clarity.
Shibo He that and a combination with rolling off some of the mids in the bass to give the guitar space to breathe in a mix
C tuning sounded really good for this particular riff you are playing
To me it kind of worked, but anything after "C" Isn't really worth doing
Jim Root and Mick Thomson disliked your coment
+Dario Varas G Hey, they have a couple songs in Drop C so idk man
F# really does sound good, Slipknot play in F# for most of their songs. The reason everything past B sounded like shit here was because the tone of the guitar wasn't changed so it just got muddier and muddier
+luigikiller1000 slipknot plays in drop B -_-
Thunder-Light X They play in multiple tunings. Drop A, Drop B. F#
And thats what it sounds like when a guitar player plays bass
But does it djent?
Probably
The last one for sure :D
Drake Davis yes yes it does
No
nah only drop ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) djents
how about you do uptuning? :D
That could damage your neck and truss rod. Would also be terrifying.
i know i was just kidding
+SomethingDifferent If you try to go 10 tones higher of course it will, but a couple tones up with 09 - 42 strings won't, and also you could just use a capo. It gives a whole different mood to some songs, specially when you are used to hear them in their original tuning.
Varg did it...
+Phoenix Daily the highest I've tuned up is g tuning but i usually tune to f
E to B sounds good, lower than that is just stupid.
But... korn...
+Kai Burns ikr. but... peripherererererery
+teknon my I personally prefer 7 strings down to about A flat. anything below gets too muddy. 6 strings I usually do E standard to B.
unless you're Karl Sanders
Slipknot goes to drop A
It doesn't make it heavier but it definitely effects the overall mood of the song
the problem is the riff isn't heavy so its all the same to me
Exactly. It sounded like a happy song that wanted to be death metal or something.
There are plenty of riffs that you can change the tuning of and it'll sound less heavy/heavier.
But, I guess it really just depends on the person.
How is this riff not heavy?
Same
@@Scumbare11 its more the drum beat is too fast to sound heavy, should be half time china hehe
Tommy well then it proves down tuning doesn’t make things heavier.
Every time you take the drill I laughted so hard. How do you explained this to the people in the gym? "Hey guys do you mind if I.... ähm yeha just doing some headbanging while you lift? I mean it´s not even that heavy isn´t it?"
Hey dudes! you keep being really manly and I'm just going to be a doofus over here for a bit.
all these music snobs saying "the riff sucked! You suck!" get over it! this video was probably just a gimmick, not a showcase of how good Rob is. Personally, i liked the riff and i love Rob, so keep doing what your doing man! Drop Q FTW!
***** the point is to see if downtuning made it heavier, if the riff were heavier it would be pointless
i know that's what you're saying. i'm telling you that this video is supposed to be about proving that. the question is whether or not downtuning will make it heavy on it's own.
You're mature aren't you...
There is something about D and B standard that I REALLY love...
I don’t know what it is
Now what's the highest ?
saw a cool vid with dude playing metal with capo on 14th fret
Cannabis Corpse
The highest is a stoned hipseter
Drop Z
What the hell is drop Q?
***** Q is not a note. It was a joke, hence the shitton of strings he had.
Thought so, now I'm going to tune my guitar to drop Z to match the Z note that I made up just to show him up
***** Dude the Pi note is where it's at, it makes a black hole when you play it
Duuuuude! sounds sick, let me guess, the tabbing is 3 1 4 1 5 9
***** Yep, and if you get an infinite-string guitar you can play the whole thing
Brown note, anyone?
Man, I dumped ass!
STEVE T YOUR THOUGHT I DIDN'T RECOGNIZE✊
+Mister Babadook Stevie T
this riff has haunted me since i first heard it
NOT EVEN DROP Q IS HEAVY ENOUGH
MxG Wraith how about drop ZZZ
If u tune something to low, u will wont be able to hear it
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@@miko8732 sorry, don't know what that means xD
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I found it interesting that sound didnt seem "heavier" to me, i did notice that i liked the sound of some tunings better then others. I really felt my ears perk up at d# and c#.
It is the key.. Guitarists seem to be way too used to E/D etc., these flat tunings sound much fresher for our ears...
Same here, there wasn't an evident difference in terms of heavyness, but some keys really brought the riff to life...
B seemed to be the optimum.... before that it doesn't really sound all that heavy, and after that it starts getting mushy.
0:37 was that a SKYPE notification?? I had to replay that like five times because I thought it was my phone
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Go outside.
@@BurnBot_TVdog that comment was left before you even made your account, get a hobby
I definitely think that heaviness comes more from use of dissonance, intervals and generally disagreeable arrangements than from downtuning. The best example of this is Opeth - 'The Leper Affinity' is in E standard but is possibly the heaviest thing I've ever heard. (Excepting Meshuggah. Because, you know, Meshuggah.)
Meshuggah
Rob Scallon Meshuggah gone to Specsavers.
Downtuning does make it heavier, but to a point, you also lose clarity.....
Meshuggah? Try Sunn O))) live.
This proves my point; I stick with E Standard.
Ikr, all i play is either E standar or D, not more than that
Marco Lopez yeah, 80% E Standard and 20% Drop D for me.
+Behemothokun man, Drop C sounds so good, though.
+CravingAura anything below C standard I will go 7 string. Anything below G# I go 8 string.
open c or c# standard is nice to mess around with
drop q tuning=spaghetti strings
InThaZ0ne So... you don't want to sound like Korn?
Duston McCreary Or at this point sounding like Messugah. XD
I really hope your joking
well their song titled spasm sounds messy so yeah.
InThaZ0ne
'The Church Of Spaggy' approves this.
I think this should be redone. With fishman fluence pickups and a horizon drive or something like that
This video is AKA "How to sound like Meshuggah"
u cant sound like meshuggah lol
How ruined did the guitar get?
mamaviviriri haha this guitar has sure been through a lot. It's still kickin'
Rob Scallon pheww! good to know!
Rob Scallon why didn't you just get some cheap economy tuners to potentially ruin? I got anxiety watching you drill!
Rob Scallon Ive been to the gym in the video.
Rob Scallon still kickin', and screamin', and trying to escape every now and then.
Can you give us the tabs for this riff.
I second this.
1 for bass tabs.
BASS SUCKS jk man but guitars cooler
hunter plemmons Can be cooler. If bass is utilized right it kicks ass.
I vote bass! Guitar would be cool too, though.
Ah yes, back to the classics. This riff is still imprinted in my heart and brain to this day
Rawrb: LOWER IT TO H!
Matty J: NO! H FLAT!
Josh: THERE'S NO SUCH THING AS H FLAT!
Actually in Denmark, most people call B for H instead for some really retarded reason.
Mikkel Scott A lot of Europe does that, I don't remember what the reason is, but it's been like that for several centuries.
Seriously? No one else caught the reference?
THIS SONG. IS SO HEAVY.
Paul Anderson
I love Psychostick!
Paul Anderson IT MAKES YOU WANT TO HEADBUTT A MOUNTAIN!
it actually stays consistently heavy throughout the entire song except for the open e string, that is the only time in the song when it is noticeably 'heavier'
which I guess goes to show it is the guitarist not the guitar who makes a heavy song heavy, downtuning and not utilising your full guitar is just lazy, looking at you emmure.
That fucking Yousician ad is so damn loud...
Ikr
YOUSICIAN IS DA BEST WAY TO LERN PRAKTIS AND MASTUR DA GITAR. Jeez, that's such a crock.
You
lmao it's intro when you open it is so fucking loud i stg
Yousician is trash anyway.
It's so weird coming back to this video now that I play in drop C1 on a baritone jazzmaster
was that cattle decapitation at the end?
Cattle Decapitation actually plays in standard tuning believe it or not lol
@@floggingphilly they play in d standard
Of course down tuning is not automatically heavy, but I definitely think there's a few flaws to your experiment.
For one, your tone was crafted for a standard tuning. And it sounded good at first. But that same tone setting affects different frequencies differently as you tune it down. If you had taken time to edit your amp model settings, you could have made the lower tunings sounds way better. Second, the riff didn't really show case the advantage of low tuned guitars. You mostly played high up on the frets. What point would that prove? Third, your pick ups and guitar are not necessarily the best for down-tuned metal.
One great thing that I think you did was get different gauge strings though. That does make a huge difference. Although part of some people's tone is the looser strings when you down tune.
As a whole I agree with the idea which is that "lower tuning is not necessarily heavier", but you can't say that tuning lower doesn't or can't make something heavier. If you're using lots of high shreddy riffs for DM, then a lower tuning isn't necessary but for certain metal subgenres (that use opens or lower tuned rhythm chords), I think it can make something heavier.
I'm pretty sure this video is just for comedy. I don't think it's a legit video.
it's not the tuning that makes it heavy, it's the style you play it in.
The tuning and the distortion settings is what makes something heavy to me