THE APU THAT I KNOW - Brain Dump
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 18 ต.ค. 2018
- A lot of people don’t like Apu. But is there another side to him? And what do we know about Apu that hasn’t yet been said? Lets find out!
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If Goofball isn’t voiced by a real ghost I’d be so pissed right now.
Yeah honestly
Oh... oh honey I have something to tell you
Max seems to be dead inside, so it's close enough.
not voiced by a real black ghost
@@higgsboson5741 I never would have guessed that.
I'm Scottish, and the only thing that ever offended me on the Simpsons was when Homer went to Scotland, saw a Loch Ness Monster statue that said *"Aberdeen sucks"* written on it, and Homer responded with *"No way, Aberdeen rules!"*
I'm from Aberdeen. It does suck.
LMFAO
God bless ya
No as bad as Inverness
Same
Iv been tae arberdeen looked in field and saw a bunch eh guy humping the shit oot eh sheep
All of my Indian friends hate that Apu was removed, it was their favourite character- it was MY favourite character too, and I'm European. He's one of the smartest characters in the whole show, and often serves to show just how DUMB American culture can be, and how he has to dumb himself down to fit in.
I feel like people who think that Apu was a negative racial stereotype weren't really paying attention, at all. Same kinda people who see mini-skirts in star-trek and think it's sexist, when in reality it was feminism and at the time, so progressive it nearly got them canceled.
Wait, he actually was!?
@Punkred so, it had nothing to do with the "racism"
Making things non racist by removing minorities
"...Popular Movies Of All Time Sir WHAT WERE YOU THINKING?!?!?!
...
i mean than k you come again"
I think creators should just start telling the PC crowd to stuff it and continue doing what they're doing. If we ignore them they'll eventually give up and start complaining about something actually worth complaining about.
Came for a straight white man meme, ended up with a really deep look into cultural representation in a cartoon. I dig it.
Same
At 37:25, thank me later
SAME, crazy that the thing that happened to you is happening to me and its a year apart
@@ItsjustBlackJackherenice Neco Arc Chaos pfp
literally same
Quote directly from Apu himself:
"But I learned long ago, Lisa, to tolerate others rather than forcing my own beliefs on them"
How ironic
Just gonna screenshot that
He also said "Good rice, good curry. Good Ghandi, let's hurry."
This world doesn't deserve Apu.
Kevin Chen found the spawnkiller
Kevin Chen the reason it’s bad to not vaccinate is because by leaving yourself vulnerable to sicknesses you also leave people who can’t get vaccines for medical reasons now more vulnerable to sickness because not only can the disease get them sick through nature, but now also you. So it’s not ok to believe that because your harming other people
This is like the power puff girls saying that Ms.Bellum isn’t sending the right message, *Shes the smartest female character*
The One Jack she’s one of the smartest characters in the show period.
I remember an episode where she fought against Sedusa and fuckin won it. She WAS the mother figure for those girls
Her name is Sara Bellum! Cerebellum! She's literally the voice of logic and reason in the show. When they boot her from the show and give Ms. Keen a double mastectomy it does not send the "girl power" message they are going for. It just shows that they are superficial people who don't understand or care about the source material they are adapting.
Funny you think the guy making the doc is smarter than this dude...I wonder what it could be?
The girl with a big ass is always the smartest
As a gay man, Smithers never offended me, not even the joke about gay guys liking barbie dolls. In fact, he was always my favorite character.
As a child I always thought Smithers was a chad.
haha, you said it!
I never really saw it as Smithers being gay, thus he liked Barbies. I always just thought it was cool he had this random collection. But I see what you mean now. Glad it didn’t bother you!
Yeah, there's nothing wrong with a gay character having some stereotypical aspects as long as it's not derailing their characterization to make them do something stereotypical because a writer somehow felt the need to fill a stereotype quota.
The problem is when a show consistently writes gay characters that way & acts like it's normal. Like Family Guy. The gay characters in that show are almost incapable of having a personality trait other than "does stuff you'd expect from a gay character". As a result, they're barely characters. They're just vehicles for jokes.
Though the same could be said for any modern Family Guy character.
“But she’s got a new hat!”
I wish we could have more actual Brain Dump episodes like this. Not to say that the newer "clickbait subversion of expectations" format can't be fun, I just have my preferences is all.
Yeah I agree. I do enjoy the banter between Max and Goofball, but I'd love it if Max made more videos where he actually talks about the things he says he's going to talk about. The way he expresses his opinions and ideas in this video is very enjoyable.
@@pabloinz382 I mean that would be a major downgrade but yea
Is it even a subversion when it's almost every episode? I stopped watching specifically because he subverted the subject I wanted to watch.
@@schnoz2372 I disagree but ok
@@OdaSwifteye interesting point, as I think about it more, subversion by definition does require an element of sneakiness. if it's a regular ting, then it can't be subversion as you or I know it. still split as to how I feel about your take, though! I like this format as it's very meaningful, but love the new format equally.
"He's like a member of the family."
Well he was the only Non-Simpson playable in Hit and Run.
I was going to say that.
Best game.
He got the best map for that game too tbh
and he got the best default car too iirc
You're right xd
Apu was also the only playable non Simpson family member in the greatest Simpson game
Which one?
Pormpf Spimperton hit and run
He also had the sweetest car. He was my go to character.
"This is just between me and you, random object."
He was my go to character 😂😂
Like dude, this is a full on University Level essay i would see in my textbooks. Not argumentative, just informative. One of my more favorite youtube videos.
Tbh I never really understood how apu could be a harmful stereotype. When he’s one of the only characters that’s not dumb in the show.
Objective: Be straight
Obstacle: Apu
Freefall entrance speed obstacle: Deltarune
Objective failed.
Objective: be straight
Obstacle: sexy flanders
MISSION FAILED
we'll get 'em next time
Follow your heart bro
As an Indian, I personally don't care about how Apu's shown. He's just a damn cartoon character.
edit: zamn, there's an arguement below
@Black Ice
*VOICE-ACTING*
Voice actors are selected by their voice, not the color of their skin. They are decided by the talent of the person.
An example being how samurai jack, an asian character, is voiced by Phil Limarr, a black guy
@@thatonea-hole That is a problem but seriously every movement needs a vehicle
@@LeoMes01
How is that a problem?
Also not everything in the world has to be some sort of political/social issue especially when it's not an issue/problem in the first place!
@@thatonea-hole Umm they could have indian representation but it is ruined because he is being played by a white guy so it comes of as mocking.
@@LeoMes01
They did have Indian representation via guest stars who are indian on the show. Also Apu's character wasn't really that much of a mockery of indians, he was just a funny character just like every character in the simpsons.
When I was a kid growing up in an extremely diverse suburb, I often heard people either picking on or friendly razzing their Indian friends by calling them Gandhi. I highly doubt any of those kids grew up wishing to erase Gandhi from history
I mean gandhi was racist so they might cancel him now
Looking back, I absolutely adore the modern episodes that have zero to do with the thumbnail. I think they're the best episodes. Yet, I also really really love this episode and it's masterfully made. I think it's proof that Max can do both. I can't believe how skilled he is as a writer and an artist.
i missed being yelled at by you
LazyPillow (Yotam Perel) I also miss Funtasia.
Wisenheimers comeback???????
I love you yotam
same
Wisenheimers 2 - Yelling but now it's grown up and *sophisticated*
Oh my god! A Indian man, who grew up in India, has a INDIAN ACCENT?!
Is that sarcasm
@@ajarofmayonnaise3250 yes
The funniest thing is during that documentary, the dude goes to visit his Indian immigrant parents and the first thing they do after he shows them a clip of Apu is they make fun of his hair saying he has “Apu hair” and the mom says they cast Hank to do a job and he does it well. And she has just as thick (maybe even more thick) of an accent.
@@ajarofmayonnaise3250 man I’m not sure dude if it is it sure is subtle…
UNACCEPTABLE
I always love coming back to this video. Even after the controversy has passed there's just a lot of wisdom on life and art packed into this. Plus the popeyes chicken joke is always a huge hit
i feel like its also very easy to draw parallels from apu to chef from south park. chef is a large black man, who randomly bursts into r&b song when giving advice, is a sex magnet, and essentially falls into most stereotypes of a black man (albeit, the ones that are percieved as positive, but they are still stereotypes.) however, he is one of the most well rounded people in south park. when he was in the show he was always the only truly levelheaded person in town, and stan, kyle, kenny and cartman almost always went to him when they needed advice. he was never the butt of the joke, either, it was always someone else, usually a white person, making an absolute fool of themselves through racism directed at chef.
stereotypes in satirical comedies have always been a thing. they are usually, in my opinion, some of the most enjoyable characters to watch, too. excellent video, man.
chef my beloved
@@themosaicshow im still so sad they got rid of him 💔 i knowww they couldnt have really kept his character with all the complications with issac hayes but i feel like they couldve at least tried giving chef some kind of nice sendoff and/or at least acknowledge his existence in the show post mortem
My god, this must have taken you AGES. Over half of this video is original animation. I applaud you, sir.
I hope you reuse these clips or at least use the Animations but not the jokes
Well the subject matter started a couple months ago I believe, so that long.
@@William_Burns it would be funner if he made a animetion again instead of this i just cant handle him talking for 45 min
@@lucazeroblueversion9346 some people have an attention span longer than 1 minute so they can handle long form content like this.... and by some people I mean the huge majority of people. There are plenty of 1-5 minute animations being made, go watch those instead of whining about this dude not doing something you want him to do.
@@CadgerChristmasLightShow listen im just saying he did it better with the animation sure you can do this but do like 10 min also i watched the whole video just did not like it
I really gotta state the blatantly obvious here, Mr. Kondabolu really made this to cash in on social justice movement, and Apu is really just an easy target.
Couldn't be more right if you tried.
I hate to admit it, but I got that feeling too.
Absolutely
Either that or he has some real self esteem issues he's channeling through Apu.
@@ChamanConTenis to be fair if i was indian i'de be jealous
4 years later and I still agree with this entire video.
I love rewatching this video
Good animation, good jokes and good points
I’m just happy Apu got a Lego Minifigure before he got “cancelled”
*please do not offer my god a peanut*
*offers a peanut* nice sona btw
But my god is a peanut he likes to snap necks
@@williambarker1705 This just is *[REDACTED]*
*gives Keanu Reeves a peanut*
But what if he wants a peanut
This video was so well made. Excellent job Max, you really knocked this one out of the park!
I watched both of you guys years and years ago because of technicolor horses but stayed for the wit and insight you guys have towards media
Ment to see you latest video but clicked on this instead
It's really disappointing to see you get behind a video defending a racist stereotype like this.
Saberspark Yes
Wrath Is Me I’ll just ask whether or not you watched the video. Yes or no answer, feel free to elaborate if you feel the need afterwards
this is a great example of how great your videos can be if goofball isn’t present for most of the episode.
37:27 has aged like fine wine
I'm afraid to ask...
@@HulktySSJ2 He nawt str8
Apparently
As a brown dude who is slightly older than Hari but grew up with the same shit and being called Apu... I 100% agree with this video. Hari is butthurt, the whole point of Apu was to shed light on a minority which never gets any screen time.
@Rookmations The basic idea got through, and yeah, we are in agreement. Real shame that Azaria has personally said he will no longer voice the character, that is one of the bigger shames, because it really does send the wrong message, as you said, about voicework and who can do what.
I live not far from him in NYC and actually have seen him on the street once, if I ever run into him, I'll actually go up to him and bother him this time to thank him for his work and respectfully disagree with his decision to cave to the Haris of this world.
@@FuzzMD I agree with everything you are saying, hari pretty much just wants a public gone because hari is dumb.
The funny part is that they ended up removing the character so now Indian people have less fictional characters to identify with
@@insertnamehere1089 They actually removed Apu??
I am your 999th like
my dad is italian and i've caught him saying "mama mia" multiple times, it was a magical moment the first time i heard him say it.
God that's funny.
I've heard my italian jewish grandma say mama mia
Does he work at Olive Garden
Italian people say mamma mia ironically or in a more serious way but is still a fun time when it happens im italian so i know this
@Tony N yeah i even wrote it mamma mia i guess they make it say mama mia so thay its easier or catchier to hear (?)
Yknow max talking about bart in such a way makes me think hes been holding these emotions about bart for a long time.
Man so doing a binge watch of the entire series so far and decided to rewatch this video. It’s really sad to see that they basically axed Apu, but managed to get new VAs for Carl, Lou, and Dr. Hibbert that fit the roles really well. If anything despite this whole thing being a response to “Making sure minorities are better represented” the lack of Apu just comes off as “Your group is not important enough for us to bring Apu back despite every one loving this character”.
In a recent interview, Matt Groening actually said he was proud of Apu and also thinks he's a more nuanced character, so in the end, we win.
However, Apu is still getting a new makeover for his character because of the controversy. It's not just his voice that is going to be changed. It's literally his whole lifestyle.
@@franks8010 I think the only makeover is that Apu should be voiced by an Indian or south Asian, right?
@@RoughMoon24 but that doesn't solve the issue. The only solution they have is to remove him completely. Changing his accent wouldn't make sense, changing his voice actor but keeping the accent wouldn't change the fact that he's a stereotype and changing his whole personality, job, story, etc would probably feel as out of place as Barney being sober.
@@highdefinition450 My opinion is that Apu voiced by an Indian voice actor is the only makeover after the Apu-controversy.
Also not all Indians & south Asians have the problem with Apu.
Voice Acting shouldn't be restricted by race.
Plot twist: This video started being made mid-2017
Weakest plot twist of all time. I wouldn’t be surprised to hear this took two years, this video is QUALITY!
Don’t get me wrong Max, I love your brain dump videos and I love the jokes you put in them. But I love this episode in particular because YOU made an episode that was about something that YOU wanted to talk about, which ultimately made an episode that was an incredibly well made documentary
37:26 bro unleashed his diggedy demon 💀
my man has just dropped a content cop
This comment made me laugh more than I’d like to admit.
woah
@@zigzoinks5493 tbh me too
Ironically, what he did here was come back, back, back, back...
This is great. I’ve watched this video like fourteen times.
As an Indian, I think Apu has never been some harmful stereotype. Hes just been a cool funny character
He's a stereotype, but he's not a racist stereotype. There's big differences there.
I'm an Indian, and I love Apu!!!
I may not be an Indian but I actually like having Apu in the show.
@@reisenbunny1235 he was always fun to watch
@@YourLocalEldritchHorror he really is but I didn't know he was that hated
This is still my favourite video from you that you've ever made, and it remains true to this day.
Apu has always come on the other side of a parody character, he is not flawed, he is hyper compentent.
Problem is, he is stuck at a dead end job because his programing skills are useless even by the time the episode that showed he had a degree on programing on Punch Card Computers aired.
Couldn't he have just learned other forms of programming? It shouldn't have been that hard to grasp (he'd just be building on fundamental knowledge), the only thing holding him back would've been the cost. Although, i also don't know how expensive college was back when the Simpsons was airing.
It's not even a dead end job, because he enjoys it, it makes him happy to work in the Kwik E Mart
@@ntfoperative9432 Who needs the Kwik E Mart? I dooooooooooooooo
>"VAs should match the character's ethnicity."
Anime dub companies: *Sweats profusely*
Sean Schemmel, Chris Sabat, and Vic Mignogna: Looks like we're Saiyans now
@@ketchupwater06 "Shit we have to hire Japanese high schoolers and a whole bunch of other crazy shit."
@@donovanlocust1106 gonna have to hire pixies and fairies and pokemon
This is kinda true for the GTAV characters.
@@dextertebbutt6785 because they also use their VA’s likeness.
Jesus Christ 45 minutes of mouth and hand animation this is just dedication
anthony howell A masterpiece.
Another great example of a character played by a voice actor pit of their race is Kratos. Kratos is white (not just in skin tone, he's Greek) and he's had two voice actors, both are black. And both do an incredible job
Another excellent example is Samurai Jack
Kratos is not white, he is olive skinned. Watch the GOW1 flashback cutscenes. But yeah, he isnt black either
@@joemusfox well it's hard to actually be sure as to weather he should count or not. after all the definition of white is quite America centric so its hard to apply it outside America, some argue it to be skin color based, some European descent, others argue culture and et cetera. I like to argue a that white as a term is rather lazy as it forcefully group cultures together, the same goes for stuff like black or Asian. these terms may make sense to apply intercountry but don't function that well on a bigger scale, after all most people would rather default to their nationality or ethnicity over race, but if i am to entertain the notion of race. Kartos is white, the ancient Greek according to most get identified as white, while they have tan skin, tan skin is something any white person would develop living in a warmer climate.
Here again after The Real Jim's video. Your's is the best on the subject.
Agreed. I feel Jim was afraid to be direct and take a stand and was too concerned about possibly offending even YEARS after this topic has lost relevance. I appreciated this video when it first came out but I appreciate it even more after seeing therealjims video.
The fact that this man can switch easily from being obscene, grotesque, and downright offensive to a politically correct, genuine person makes me love him THAT much more.
S a m e
"politically correct" and "genuine person" are diametrically opposed, tho.
@@mikesmith6422 I think you can genuinely be politically correct. There are plenty of bland boring people in the world. That's why all the funny people joke about things that AREN'T politically correct.
He is very passionate about Apu
@Eric Lee I love you anyway buddy
that was an insane amount of work to put in basically for free. respect
Thats real art
Wow, Gabe's human! This video's already attracting TH-cam royalty.
deathtrips well the guy who made that “documentary” was a douche who needed to be put down a few pegs
Revisiting this 4 years later. This was all so concise. So hard to disagree with. I love you
Im Hispanic, and there's lots of hispanic jokes in Simpsons. But I can also see some love, like they have that bumblebee guy in a suit. And it makes me happy to see him cause he's a reference to a show my dad always watched.
I'm Scottish. I've never met anyone who sounds like Willie. I've also never heard anyone complain about Willie. Most people here find him funny, because he is.
Hey when you guys get independence, then i can tell people i been abroad ✊
Isn't there debate and rivalry over where Willie comes from? Some say Glasgow, other say another place?
@@xFlareLeon to be honest i always thought Willie was Glaswegian but i don't think i can name any episode where he specifically mentions it
@@violenceisfun991 he's from North Kilt Town apparently 😂
Quite honestly, they just told the actor "do everything Scottish accent you ever heard at the same time and be from Glasgow" and then said "take it to 12"
You don't look racist
You look like the edgy dad I never had
And wish you had? Atleast I want him as a dad
I didn't have a dad but he's like the dream dad that play Minecraft with you
No u
bulletsisnothere He looks like a mix of both of my dads lol
Bold of you to assume he could even be close to a woman
Props to Max for animating a full length movie
People call a Indian stereotype racist but don’t care that there’s a hillbilly whose wife is both his sister daughter and mother all at the same time
Two days ago I was thinking, "What happened to Brain Dump?"
Now I know.
Same. I was scrolling through my subscriptions and I found him. I almost forgot he made vids
A 45 MINUTE animation... No wonder we all thought he was dead.
Same. Actually I did some seconds ago
Crowne Prince oh shit it’s crowne
Dude, same
whats funny is that Mario, an Italian stereotype, belongs to a... Japanese... company...
Voice by an American voice actor that speak French, Spanish and English.
@@LionCub03 Then as an Italian I should be offended, considering he speaks in a very stereotypical(and kinda wrong) way, is a plumber (implying we italians are only plumbers?!), and he eats spaghetti only (I also eat rice and many other things!)
Of course I'm just joking, I would never do that, and infact I'm kinda happy that Mario is super famous AND italian. If anything I wish he had more personality and actually talked more than gibberish, but I wouldn't say I'm offended by hi stereotypical (?) ways!
@@janusan89 Technically, Mario (& Luigi) doesn't _only_ eat spaghetti. In the cartoon, they mention other pastas than just that
@@fairy3731 cannoli, linguini, ravioli, nucleoli, martini, tortellini, broccollini
This hurts to think about, but it's so true.
This is aging well.
It's about time that the internet started widely clowning on ProZD. He's been a giant tool for such a long time.
@@BullockDS So true.
@@BullockDSHuh?
@@the_demon149 ProZD was a huge advocate of the push for "voice actor races must match their characters". Yet, when I wrote my first reply, he was upset on Twitter because he was no longer getting cast for non-Asian character roles.
THANK YOU. You are so much better than a bunch of other commentary channels. You have perspective and understanding. YOU can understand that people with different views or conflicting views aren't stupid or wrong unlike a certain Brett cooper.
Not to forget Mario was made by a Japanese person
Yeah, the thing is. There is only an outcry that sells, gets clicks. When it's something perceived to be a "white man's fault". The sensational media likes to virtue signal as hard as possible. While those trying to distance themselves the hardest from any perceived "racists" are most likely the actual racists. Today it has become necessary to state as often as possible to claim that you're not racist. Instead of not focusing too much on race. Instead just being normal, aka just getting along with people no matter where they are from. While still being able to poke fun at each other. But that's not PC enough today 🙄
"Bollywood" has made dozens of unflattering White-Person stereotypes but you'd never know it because these Whiners are NEVER consistent or honest about their own double standards
(but then again, neither is the Alt-Right pretty much because they are exact mirror images of eachother)
@@iller3 both extremes are a kind of a horseshoe. They are both different kinds of awful, but all in all they are both racists in a different fashion. Ether soft bigotry of low expectations, like the left thinking any minority can't decide for themselves what to enjoy or not. Or the block heads of the alt right that pretend the Holocaust didn't happen.
Irl Bahliwood by dude,, spell the name right. Also, the only satire i've seen made about people with "white skin" are the English, and it isn't even about their skin.
Eh i doubt it, cause mario have facial hair.
I'm German and I've never seen a prominent German character who isn't wearing lederhosen and yodeling. I've never seen that back in Germany but it's all I see outside.
@Space Onion exactly, for some reason all German characters are evil. Literally makes me a lil scared.
The Medic from Team Fortress 2 and Dr Doofenshmirtz from Phineas and Ferb come to mind for tasteful German-based characters for me.
@@TheMAM god bless
Also are depicted as ONLY blonde, tall and with blue eyes.
I german guy i remember is that guy from django
this feels like the only Brain Dump episode that stays on topic for most of the video
Did y’all notice that goofball never interrupted him in this episode?
Yeah, this is the only comment i saw that talks about this...
Hell, Goofball doesn’t show up until there’s less than two minutes of the video left. 43:55
no one is gonna talk about how he was raised for most of his life in india, making his accent completely reasonable?
It's been 3,000 years...
no 3000 CENTURIES
Dio Drando 3000 millenniums
How would you feel about a Diddy Kong Racing sequel that added characters from My Hero Academia, Little Witch Academia, Kirby, The Amazing World of Gumball, **Persona 3-5,** Family Guy, Sonic, Diary of a Wimpy Kid, Digimon Tamers, The Simpsons, Invader Zim, Pokemon Sun and Moon anime including Serena from X and Y, Crash Bandicoot and RWBY with Haruko from FLCL, Hat Kid, Popuko and Pipmi from Pop Team Epic, Bomberman, Doom Slayer, Beavis and Butthead also being there? Kirby gets pushed as a second Protagonist to go along with Diddy Kong.
Imagine racing against Akko with Izuku, shooting a missile at Gumball, Gumball, Izuku, and Akko smoking pot with their friends, throwing an oil slick at Ren, Ryuji using a bat to knock opponents sideways, Ann using her whip to whip a nearby rival, Yusuke asking Momo if she’d be painted nude, Fregley putting his foot in his mouth to distract the other drivers so they can crash, Futaba showing everyone rule 34, Makoto dodging bombs that Bomberman planted on the race track, etc.
He made this in july
@@misterzygarde6431 IT WOULD BE A MASTERPIECE
But you forgot knack
It’d be quicker to get from here to Mars than waiting for Max to upload
Holy crap, a brain dump episode that completely talks about the subject!
This is probably my favorite video on the internet, and I never even watched the Simpson’s. I always find myself coming by to this video just because of how immaculately formulated Maxs arguments are. Bravo.
As a black man I can confirm we do dream about Menthol Cigarettes
And as an caucasian we do dream of bacon and cheeseburgers, you dont even *want* to know
And as a Indigenous Australian I can confirm we do dream about dampa and corned beef and rice.
As an Aryan, I can confirm that we are a bunch of neo-nazis who have branded a swasitika on our backs
And as a human, I can confirm that we dream about normal human things, like *the blood of the inoccent*
Jacob Holms as a British white man I do dream about tea and Jaffa cakes
I remember when I was young, the only character that I ever used in order to beat the Simpsons Wrestling was Apu. So I am grateful that I was able to beat the game with Apu.
What are you doing here?!?!
I enjoyed apu in the Simpsons hit and run. He was sorta the odd one out, and had a cool car as well as a cool level.
He was the best character in that game. Always get Turkey with him.
I went for the bumble Bee
Willy and his bear traps.
This entire video has single-handedly became the most logical common sense discussion you will ever hear. Not just about the situation with Apu, but colorblind voice acting in general.
Yeah, it's crazy to think we live in a future where people think voice actors need to represent exactly the ethnicity of a character. Forget about their talent or if they're capable of doing the job.
I love how much your content has grown, just 8 or 9 years ago, I was a 6 yr old child secretly watching your satirical mlp skits.
Reasons why this is the best episode of Brain Dump so far:
Max makes good points
Barely any goofball (sorry but he really gets in the way a lot)
Sick Burns 🔥
Max sees both sides of the argument
AHEM, slight toasts.
@HEXboo Well that's always good in my book
@@charbomber110 Yes, slight toasts.
And burn bot ♡
I think Goofballs not in because Max is covering a legitament issue.
Is no one gonna mention that everyone on the show can pronounce his last name seamlessly, checkmate
Coffee Junkie, facts.
Not Chief Wiggum. I remember in Treehouse of Horror IX there was a moment in which he was having a hard time attempting to pronounce Apu’s last name.
@@shrekharvey4175 Chief Wiggum isn't exactly the sharpest tool in the shed...
@Daniel Hernandez Not a lot of characters in The Simpsons are to be quite honest.
Even reverend lovejoy pronounces it right
This is my favorite out of your whole channel. Apu's been a favorite of mine since forever really. I adore how positive this is. You're doing great things & I'm proud of ya, buddy.
I LOVE the joke with Milhouse. It's 100% my style & I can't help laughing each time I watch this.
I would watch a documentary in which they discuss the actual negative stereotypes of this cartoon, such as Cletus's family. It sounds like a more engaging viewing experience than "I don't like this cartoon because I can't take a joke."
How can there be a problem with Apu, when he’s the sexiest character in all of Springfield.
"It's not the Simpsons writers who have reduced Apu to his accent. It's YOU who has done this by disregarding everything that humanizes the character and gives him depth choosing instead to only focus on his voice."
OH MY GOODNESS. THANK YOU.
God, if more people were willing to say stuff like this about almost ANY character they consider offensive, we wouldn't need to have discussions like this in the first place. It's especially notable to say this when you consider that The Simpsons has been around for almost 30 years and no one considered it a problem before.
the argument of "it is be there for 30 years, why you got so upset just now?", is the dumbest thing to ask, and is one of the things that make this shitty discussion that big, the answer is simple, "because they were children 30 years ago", all this bullshit was just a thing because both sides don't know how to talk like adults
The Simpsons is a show aimed mostly at adults. Most people who watched it back in the day were probably adults too. That argument doesn't work.
@@PEDROGARCIA-qj3gr Honestly I kind of agree, the argument that "if it wasn't wrong for [a long time] then why is it wrong now" is very weak. Whether you agree with it or not, things change. hooowever, in this argument Apu may a stereotype to some extent, but was never intended to be seen as just a stereotype/making fun of indians. I think people are exaggerating, knowing the context and substance of the character; he's definitely not a hate symbol.
Dani meh i know all that, i don't even think apu is bad at all, it's just that that argument is stupid
The whole show is meant to be a ridiculous stereotype of America. That's why we don't know what state Springfield is in.
Actually, Springfield is a real place. It's in Louisiana.
(Though your point still stands strong.)
@@yusmierhernandez8359 but it's also in Massachusetts and Illinois.
@@bloodyroseproduction Really? Hmm, I was certain that it was in Louisiana. Even looked it up to be absolutely sure. Well, the more you know. Thanks for the information! :)
@@yusmierhernandez8359 no problem!
It's also in Ohio.
37:25 a legend was born that day.
I've never met a single person who hates Apu. I think Apu his one of the best characters on the show, not to mention he has the cutest children ever.
Literally every character on the show is a stereotype of something or other.
Also, love those stylised depictions of other characters, you should do them all.
"He's a cartoon character, they're supposed to be goofy. Because the real world is goofy... And the cartoon characters exist to show us how damn goofy we are. Lest we forget and accidentally take ourselves too seriously."
That there is a powerful statement about the portrayal of the things we show any frame of emotion for in this world, cartoons or otherwise.
A Thing By Jacob Warner Why couldn’t they have just made him with no accent then lmao wouldn’t he be just as important then
Ashley well, what’s your argument for him to NOT have the accent? He is an immigrant who came directly from India, it would make sense for him to have an accent as thick as he does
@@Ashley-iw2no I find it potentially closer to offensive and racist to say a character from another land is not allowed to have a thick accent. Doesn't that strike you as odd to say thick accents are looked down upon and people should get a new voice when coming to America, even in a comedy?
Thick accents can't be represented? They'll never be more than a stereotype, because people can't look past it?
If you ask me, taking a character out because of a thick accent and running a convenience store (even though there's far more to Apu) seems closer to being racist than leaving him in.
I can see why this took so long.
Editing those air horns, shades, and blunt must've taken months.
Maybe he had to reado it 20+ times in order to claim down enough to make one viewer freindly enough i could be on youtube.
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This is still one of the best videos on TH-cam, hands down.
Love ya hot damn demon man, I grew up watching your videos and kept up all the way to your latest stuff. Keep up the good work bra
I’m so glad Futurama ended before they could remove Hermes for being a stereotypical Jamaican.
Im glad,he was my favourite :(
But I loved Hermes and all the other characters related to him. They were fun!
Like a green snake in a sugar-cane field!
DoodleWill People likes Apu and look what they did to him
Zapp brannigan would’ve been shot into the sun for being a sexiest white male
Hey man I know this is random but my college professor just had me do a reading that critiqued Apu's stereotype, and I just wanted to say that the author of the article specifically mentioned your name and alluded to your video as a counter argument to the racial bias around Apu. Goddamn amazing
Yo real? That's fucking awesome
what idiocy are you studying lol
@@degayify It's Media Writing. We were studying the effects of stereotypes in modern media. In a weird, backward ass way, part of my thousands of dollars of tuition went towards learning from Hotdiggedydemon lol
@@degayify another case of internet moron being rude for no reason
fuckin legend.
Can’t wait to see someone talk about Charles not voicing Mario anymore
goddamn this is so unbelievably well made and well researched.
so've certainly earned my sub!
As an Indian, I find appu funny, and in India, people may find him inaccurate but will not say that he is offensive, but I can't speak in behalf of American Indian, because I don't live there and how people treat Indian people there some are treated good and some may be treated not so well and even bullied by it, and when you get bullied you will hate for the thing that you are getting bullied for and how many pros may appu have it will get sided by their hate, and it must be lonely for American Indian by getting this jokes time over time, so its not the problem of this cartoon its how people treat you.
sorry for my bad English
M8 bad english is not a problem unless its on twitter cuz people have no mercy for bad english there
I agree with you.
Your English is fine my dude.
Wassup bröther
@@t.a.d.k.d6580 fine brotha, good to see our people are still running strong, oh yeah yeah.
I have never seen shots fired so gently yet deal so much damage.
must... resist... *flex tape meme*
Young Discord You've never seen someone civilly disagree with someone else?
The turns this video take were 💯 not only making solid points but the writing the bait and switch were so good. That's talent
i saw a tik tok that made a similar point. it only really seems like people who aren't in a specific minority are the ones who get most offended with the depictions of minorities. in the video, a white guy went around dressed in a pancho, sombrero, and a fake mustache, the most common stereotype for mexicans. he interviewed people asking them if they thought his costume was offensive, and everyone who said "yes it is offensive" were people who were NOT mexican or of hispanic decent. then, he interviewed actual mexicans and asked them the same question, and they all said no, it's not offensive. hell, a lot of them thought it was funny and said they liked his costume!!! as someone who is mexican and comes from a mexican family, i can tell you from personal experience that we don't really care about people who use that stereotype, and we actually find it funny. that's what comedy is!!! exaggeration and making people laugh!!! the only time it really becomes a problem is when the stereotype is used specifically to harm or disrespect someone. wearing a sombrero and mustache while speaking in a fake mexican accent to be goofy and make people laugh isn't harmful, UNLESS you are doing it solely out of malice to harm and disrespect us. we have to understand that people can feel differently about certain things, we're all entitled to our own opinions, and we shouldn't push that onto others. if you find sombreros and fake mustaches offensive, i can't change your opinion. that's how you feel, and i appreciate you for showing your concern for my culture! you just need to understand that sometimes, it really isn't THAT deep. of course that's just me. everyone has very different experiences with culture appropriation, and it's not up to me to dictate whether you're being "overly sensitive" or not.
Max, you're a perfect example of don't judge a book by their cover.
People should look past the multiple piercings, giant gut and skinheadness and see a compassionate, funny and kind person.
Yump Bagle lol “backhand”. That was a full force swing with a dash of compliment 😂
And also the people that don't watch him anymore because he became a:
*Filthy Reviewer*
Clearly people that can't grasp the concept of opinions.
Don't make me crush on this guy, okay? Hes... only partially my type. I don't want him to be my full type because uh... because reasons! FUCK YOU.
Yump Bagle I bet you’re as kind, funny and compassionate as him, even though I’ve never met you and know absolute zip about you
Golden boy?
"He's a bait and switch, and some people aren't seeing the switch" This is so accurate. As a lifelong Indian and lifelong Simpsons fan, Apu was one of my favourite characters, I'd go so far as to say a positive influence on Indian stereotypes. Apu is portrayed as just stereotypical enough that viewers aren't alienated, except from when the focus is on him which is when he goes above and beyond. We'll miss you, sweet prince.
Hes a bit better then raj from big bang show.
@@Ando1428 When I really think about it, Apu is about the only stereotypical Indian character , with that type of accent, that doesn't piss me off for "trying too hard to be THAT INDIAN GUY".
Darius, anything's better than BBT
Yeah, I would love to see some more racial representation in good ways. Like Hawaiian culture, I feel like no one ever represents us but a few cameos in adult cartoons.
Love this.
But what keeps bringing me back? I think its the deconstruction to love something
Great audio visual crispness and editing.
Thanks, Max. I think this is great.
I weirdly unironically enjoyed listening to your take on this, I know it's old and this has kinda became it's own show, but I kinda hope we get some non canon brain dump episodes where you get to gab on about a subject. Its really enjoyable.
Why are accents considered racist?
Like, if I'm trying to parody a person by asserting a stereotype then yeah, that's mean. But why is just doing an accent that's not yours automatically racist?
Most accents are exaggerated, so if you sound like that, people are automatically going to call you racist for exaggerating accents.
Either that, or they hate that race, so they'll call you out for using that accent. Or they LOVE that race, in which case they'll hate you for mocking their language.
Even worse is when they ARE a member of that race
repeat after me boys and girls
"voice acting is seamless!"
Racism is the hatred of another person purely because of their skin tone. It's an unfounded fallacious response to a perfectly natural thing that people have, which cannot be controlled due to their genetics and birth.
Using other cultures such as putting on an accent can be interpreted in many ways, some people may use an accent to mock that culture, some may do it out of love, others may just do it nonchalantly without caring because it's fun. All in all there are many ways to interpret words but there was only one intention when those words were said.
The only reason why racism or the like is an issue is due to people being offended, and people wanting to prevent that. If we all developed enough of a personality to deal with it, such as playing off any comments that come your way, we would not have this issue. But because people have this idea of being good and virtuous and stopping all hardship in the world, they try to solve problems that don't really exist. It might be a modern thing from the SJW crowd, it might just be a thing ingrained in many people anyways, because it makes sense that people don't like some of the things that are said to them, so they think that if they make it so that nobody ever says that stuff, nobody gets harmed.
But that's an extremely unproductive way of going about it. You cannot and arguably should not ever have people who decide how other people act socially. Stopping people from making remarks, be they harmful intentionally or not, is censorship. And censorship is arguably far more harmful than freedom of speech.
All in all this discussion of racism and what should and shouldn't be allowed is just extremely tiring. It's not a good discussion because the people who advocate for more censorship mostly do it out of their own virtues, they make it out to be a benevolent act, but really it's extremely selfish and close minded. It's almost like they aren't willing to see the world for all the interesting colours and flavours it can be, so try to boil it down to just a few simple inoffensive terms to avoid being even the slightest bit sad on some days.
Yeh, especially when it's for a cartoon
@@n0kt0h45 Greek here, and to be frank, I wouldn't have a problem with someone non-Greek impersonating the Greek accent. Most Greeks know how we sound to foreigners (when we try to speak English, at least) and we ourselves make fun of that fairly often. I believe the same would apply to other people as well.
I'll have you know that I constantly dream about fried rice.
Whang! Ayyy
I dream about Bacalhau
Literally just finished the vid on Street fighter rainbow edition before coming to this.
How many Kano transformations have you unlocked?
I dream about Apu.
I love how this video has more views than most of the trailers for the documentary combined 😂
I love how even in serious topics, he manages to sprinkle a funny little joke every now and then.
Bald Man Talks About His Crush On A Simpsons Character For 45 Minutes
And he fucking overkills "comedian" with that
Single Male/Female Complains About Well Writen and Executed Argument
did i say it was a bad thing for him showing us how much he loves apu? absolutely not i support him all the way
I am an Indian and honestly, I got so pumped up whenever Apu appeared on the show. I wanted to thank the writers for putting so much effort into creating such a wholesome, lovable character that I could identify myself with. Never saw him as an insult to my culture.
Rishav Siddhanta
You don't speak for all indian people do you? Anyways as a non-indian person, he doesn't seem all that wholesome to me. At least not most of the time. Maybe he's given some dimension from time to time but over all he just comes of as a joke. Some idiots are probably going to say that's the point cause it's a comedy but we're talking about character substance or the idea behind a character here. And from that perspective he just doesn't seem very real at all. Or even come off as a reflection or exaggeration of someone that's real. Feels like a bunch of unflattering stereotypes cobbled together and balanced out with attempts of making him seem more developed than he is
Scoring57 you can say about most simpsons characters
Scoring57 I don’t think those were merely attempts to make him more developed. Like the guy said it’s a bait and switch,to subvert your expectations of the Indian guy the runs your local covenant store. Who’d have thought this guy would have a PhD?
Scoring57 also stating your opinion even though it’s gonna be vary unpopular here is brave of you and you have my respect for that 🙂
Rishav Siddhanta when I first saw Apu I thought he was a white guy who got slot of tans and who talked funny.
Back four years later and I'm amazed by the positive reception. Zero dislikes!
Apu isn't a stereotype, he's a real person. I'm a canadian, the amount of indians working at corner stores is actually insane.