@@jdromeo215 that’s my point, Bonds was walked and the team that walked him won. In the history of baseball, the team walking in the run has always won
Even with how dumb this decision was, I love that they still won because it means teams are still undefeated when they intentionally walk someone with the bases loaded
Longtime rangers fan, they won because my team has no idea how win. Two back to back botched World Series and a decade later I’m still miserable. Yayyyy, sports
“A lot of people watch breakdowns that don’t watch baseball.” Guilty as charged. Must say, dude knows his audience. This stuff makes the slowest sport I have ever played exciting again.
This channel is what got me into baseball. It also helped being a Boston Celtics fan and eventually becoming a Red Sox fan during their unexpected playoff run.
The whole "deceive the runner" line of dialogue is peak Jomboy lip-reading. He should straight-up do voiceovers for animated films and everything at that point.
One of my favourite “rumoured” (no real record, only newspaper accounts) intentional walk with the bases loaded was in 1929. Phillies walked Mel Ott five times on the last day of the season to protect Chuck Klein’s homer lead in NL home run race. (Klein 43, Ott 42.) one of those walks was said to be intentional with the bases loaded
I checked on baseball reference and you’re right, he had 5 walks and 1 rbi. Though it was on the second to last game. (They had one game against braves for some reason…)
I love how they give free walk when the bases are loaded while they are losing and still won the game. It's the utmost incompetency and the most disrespectful move I've ever seen. Like, how can you show your face after losing to a team that literally gave you a headstart, a kickstart, and a handicap?
@@jaimelannister1797 you may be right, but I think I’m the direction that the rangers are going, trying build up a completely new team, firing people after their ninth game on the team, I think it will be a while.
You should really break down the insanely awful 2nd inning the Sox had in the first game of their double header a couple days ago. We had 4 (5?) errors and were down 10-0 with no outs in the 2nd. On top of the errors, 8 consecutive hits off Keuchel. Truly amazing stuff.
At this point after the intentional walking of a guy with a 1-2 count he could do a full series on just the dumb things of the 2022 Chicago White Sox. I don’t think I’d watch though because it would make me mad all over again.
There’s no manager like him. He thinks so outside the box. Milkin the time disrupting the rhythm of batters. And He’s turning the worst pitching team into winners. MOst valuable manager in mlb
The pitcher was pissed; Maddon was lost; Trout wondering why he signed that contract; Angels still wants to move shop into LA.... all a fabulous drama on The Real Housewives of Orange County
You make baseball interesting again!! I love these breakdowns & the lip reading is crazy good. Keep up the good work bro. Glad I found you on the tube.
Was hoping that you'd mention this fun fact that, the last time a bases loaded Ibb happened: it was done by Joe Maddon...to the exact same team (Josh Hamilton), in this exact same zip code just across the street in their old stadium. I also love in the post-game interview that he also admitted that it was to rile up his offense; and in the follow-up question "Do you think there's uh, better way to rile up your offense?" and his response was "Yes." As an Angels fan even if we lost this I was perfectly fine with it due to the historic and cosmically coincidental entertainment this has brought.
It’s the first time a manager intentionally walked a batter with the bases loaded while trailing in the game since like 1890’something. God, I love being an Angels fan
The last time was a much different situation. I think the Rays were up by 3 runs in B9 and they didn’t want Josh Hamilton (who was in his full glory then) to hit a game-winning grand slam. They gave him the Barry Bonds treatment.
Maddon was a great manager for a long time, his record shows it, but he seems to be slipping. His mistake almost cost the Angels the game- for no reason. It was the players that were able to overcome it. His managing was moot after that boneheaded decision. Kudos to the team for stepping up and getting the W- no thanks to him.
I didnt mind him with the Cubbies but he def makes some questionable decisions at times. Plenty of people feel the Cubs won their WS in spite of him, not because of him with the moves he made those playoffs.
@@WheresMyInhaler I agree he added to the team at time. But that team was also absolutely stacked. They won with the talent on the field imo and I do disagree with moves he made.
"Alot of people watch breakdowns that don't watch baseball" that was me last year, this year I'm watching baseball BECAUSE of breakdowns. Watched this happen and couldn't wait for the breakdown! thanks Jomboy for giving me a great new hobby!
This is really great to see. Baseball’s great, one of my fave things. Right after gambling drugs and hookers lol. I usually watch while gambling tho and doing some blow or meth. Only get lucky if I find a chick to go down on me while watching but sometimes hard to keep it up if I have more than $10k on the game, cause those are the times I’m way to nervous to keeper up. But once I got so excited on a 17th inning win I ripped right in broad’s mouth after the walkoff. This was before the runner on second BS. Called the broad in the 8th expecting extras and she, my word man, was down the entire time. What a load tho. Great day that was
I like the “you’re better than that, John” insult. Maddon is insulting the umpire, which usually would get him tossed, but complimenting him at the same time which probably saves him from getting tossed. Smart tactic….
People get tossed for saying nothing bro that didn’t save him from getting tossed what? Over analysis outa “I eat pieces of shit like you for breakfast”…not a shocker that this guy wants to look smarter than he is
@@ShapedByMusic lol….are you ok, bud? “What you’ve just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I've ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response was there anything that could even be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.”
It's been 2 weeks since this play. In that span the Angels are 10-3 and Corey Seager's BA has tanked. Joe Maddon just plays ball on a higher spiritual level than the rest of us mortals. Edit: nevermind, time and fate caught up with him.
Finally Jomboy covers a game I was at! As soon as I saw all this go down I knew. Instead of thinking about baseball history I was thinking of Jomboy. And thanks for covering the pitcher and catcher just standing there for an eternity. That game ended sorta late and I had a 4hr drive home after so I blame this moment. Fun inning to watch tho followed by the Angels immediately coming back. Also, Angels pitcher Austin Warren was being real cool during BP passing out balls to fans which only he and Mike Trout really cared to do. I felt bad he had to be at the center of this moment.
@@ZendelWashington wtf do you mean cap? I've had 4 hour stop and go traffic in Memphis TN you think you can't get 4 hour stop and go traffic in one of the largest cities in the country?? Hold this L
There are a lot of moments like that in baseball. When I first started going to my universities games, there were numerous times where I was confused or outraged at a rule or action that didn’t make sense
@@telperion4441 Rangers my friend (hence why watching). I consider myself a historian by nature so think I have a good feel for the game, I now know the major incidents, eras and players throughout history (gravitated towards Pudge Rodriquez and always been fascinated by Texan culture), so will probably spend this first year then becoming more accustom to rules, situation play and learning current players. Been watching series rather than specific games so I can learn rotations and orders a bit better. How long would you say generally it takes to get to grips fully? Been a basketball fan for 15 years and that’s a relatively simple sport, been watching Football (American Football here) for about 8 years and that took a while, but feel NFL has a lot more niche aspects to it like route running/lineman play/clock management
I appreciate the way you explain the video to people saying "even if you don't watch baseball, this is what happened. Im a big baseball fan and I still learn a different rule from time, to time.
Tony LaRussa wrote down the Unwritten Rules during Spring of 1948. Upon completion, he then burned the Unwritten Rules to thwart anyone from knowing the Unwritten Rules.
About this balk, you have John Tumpane calling it - an excellent umpire who makes the right call, by rule. However, I can't argue with Madden's argument here. I have made it many times (as an umpire!) Madden's issue needs to be taken up with the rules committee, not the guy who is just doing what the rules say.
Rule 8.05 Comment: Umpires should bear in mind that the purpose of the balk rule is to prevent the pitcher from deliberately deceiving the base runner. If there is doubt in the umpire’s mind, the “intent” of the pitcher should govern.
I think what needs to happen is the balk rules need to be TIGHTENED rather than losened. I feel like a lot of the confusion comes from how vague the rules are. The rule is written as a list of things you can't do. The balk is an important rule, because the pitcher being predictable makes the running game possible. If runners cannot anticipate the pitcher, then it takes that aspect of the game away. IMO it would be better to strengthen and expand the section that describes the "set" and "windup" position, as well as the rules around steping off and throwing to a base. Make the rules a list of "things you are allowed to do". Then make the balk rule "anything that is not exactly what the rules say you are supposed to do". It would be so much easier to say "this was a balk because they deviated from the defined procedure for delivering a pitch" than which of the 100 things they did wrong.
I would have been all for the balk call if the ball had been in the pitching arm, but seeing as the ball was in the glove, it can't really be deception. If anything a delay of game would make more sense.
@@zym6687 Thank you for this. I have used this to support my opposition (again, as an umpire) to many of the "start/stop" balks that my colleagues would jump on. However, we have to understand that the way Tumpane called it today is entirely consistent with the way MLB umps have been calling this same thing, for years. Again, I don't like 90% of the start/stop balks that are called, but they are consistent with the interpretation that MLB has adopted about the rule 6.02(a)1 - The pitcher, while touching his plate, makes any motion naturally associated with his pitch and fails to make such delivery. I, personally, don't agree.. but my opinion doesn't count.
Didn't look to be a rule call but rather a judgment call that he made a motion to throw the ball. It wouldn't have been my call. Maybe Joe could have asked for some help from the other boys in blue.
That’s Maddon style. Doing things outside of the box. Even if things don’t go his way, you got to appreciate his boldness to try something that goes against peoples opinions. I remember with the Cubs, he would do things that made people get upset.
Man I forgot the most entertaining thing about baseball isn’t the endless waiting around by millionaires but hearing Jomboy’s forensic lip reading analyses
@@CIARUNSITE eh? Wtf that got to do with baseball exactly? Or do you think I am unaware of the exploitation of the masses by corporatists? I’m not, just don’t bring it up because in a game that last 3-4 hours I can watch less than 20 minutes of highlights and catch pretty much the whole thing.
@@CIARUNSITE Hey since 1/5 of Californians will have left by 2030 due to the century long drought, economic and sociopolitical upheaval, rampant homelessness and malfeasance of those in the government and corporate positions of power can we just get the Angels out of Anaheim and moved to Austin Texas instead? There that cover all the bases you felt needed to be covered?
@@CIARUNSITE You can complain all you want but you still buy there shit and pay thier subscription fees so you’re just another hypocrite. I haven’t bought a ticket to a film since 2017, have never had an Amazon account and cancelled my Netflix in 2019. Those fucks aren’t getting my money directly. That’s how change will happen, enough people doing just that, but you don’t. You talk shit and sip your Starbucks, play your Spotify while you do all your shopping on Amazon.
I’m one of the non-baseball people you referred to, and I’d just like to thank you for explaining as much as you do. I watch your channel for the entertaining commentary no matter what the sport :)
I feel kinda the same. He was at the helm when the Cubs finally won, but I wouldn't say they won those last few games because of his managing. More like they won in spite of it. Being honest, I stopped watching game 7 when the "Cuban Missile Crisis" happened and switched to radio. I seriously couldn't fathom the idea of watching them blow game 7 in extra innings. Being a longtime Cubs fan I truly expected the worst to happen when Chapman came out looking completely gassed and relying heavily on his breaking pitches.
@@jupiteral8217 yea, he burned him when he didn't have to, but he brings a petting zoo to the clubhouse so he's a "genius." Truth is, without that rain delay in the 10th and Jason Heyward's motivational speach, they probably don't win.
I think a lot of it had to do with the fact that we gave up a grand slam the day before. Maddon realized how much of a gut punch that was because it basically put us out of the game early. He also mentioned that he wanted to do it to “fire the guys up” which technically worked considering we won the game 🤷♂️
This is the first time that a runner was walked in via an IBB where no pitch was thrown, and therefore the first time in MLB history that a batter has earned an RBI without seeing a single pitch.
I remember when Maddon did this with the Rays years ago. Walked Josh Hamilton back when he was good because they were only up by a couple runs, and bases loaded at the end of the game. Rays ended up winning by one I believe. So it worked out.
I think Maddon has a point about the balk rule and what peeves me the most about it. The tiniest movement even if to no reasonable person would perceive it at part of a windup can be called a balk. Most of the time when a balk is called I need a replay to even show me what the movement was.
But you wouldn’t need the replay if you were a runner on base. You can’t gauge that from the perspective of a fan watching on tv at home. You have to gauge it from what a runner on base sees.
"Maddon enjoys getting attention for doing weird and unique things" THANK YOU. As a Cubs fan I obviously love him but I swear he's gotten addicted to the limelight
In senior league baseball (13-14-15 year olds) a long time ago, we were playing a practice game BEFORE the season started. Bases loaded. Our two best 15 year old hitters coming up. The opposing coach intentionally walked both of them. Our coach said: "We're done, boys...get your gear. Game over". So our coach quit the "practice game" on the spot.
“You can only do that if you do it every single time” lmao perfect explanation of the balk and how the definition can be a little confusing, it’s pretty much just all at the umpire’s discretion. That’s one call they can make where they truly have all control. It’s pretty rare to see a truly obvious balk that everyone watching can agree on.
I can see this as a wise strategic move - even though it costs a single run - IF the batter you walked has the real potential to hit for 2 or more RBI(s) AND the on-deck batter is a better target for your existing pitching - I would make that call all day long. I've done something similar as a coach - walked a batter with bases loaded because he launched a shot that hasn't landed yet in a previous @ bat AND hit for a double. The on-deck batter was retired with 6 pitches - a strike out. So... a real risk of 3 runs against a single run and good odds for a strikeout or force play. I've seen it work AND I've seen it backfire - but the stats would say play the odds.
"Seager has been better against lefties than righties this year" Yeah, but he's been much better against righties in his career, and I think a few full seasons should outweigh a couple weeks' worth of games
2:20 There is absolutely no need for a manager to go to the mound to make a pitching change... if the goal is to speed up games, why hasn't MLB eliminated this antiquated practice? NHL coaches are able to make a goalie change just fine without walking out to the crease...
I really love watching your lip reading I’D LOVE TO SEE A LIP READING of the Hand Shakes and Convo’s after a NHL Playoff series is done.. they all chat, some good, some bad but it would be SUPER INTERESTING
If I had a nickel for every time Joe Maddon has intentionally walked a Rangers hitter with the bases loaded and still went on to win the game, I’d have two nickels. Which isn’t a lot, but it’s weird that it’s happened twice.
This video is an excellent example of why people don’t like baseball but do like Jomboy. I feel like I’m watching the titanic every time I put a baseball game on, and if you follow a team you’re watching the titanic 162 times like why…
This is one of those second guessing moments. He is a genius if it works. We need to stop crucifying managers like this. we keep saying we don't want the game to be ruined by too many analytics and you have to use your eyes and feel out there. as soon as a manager does use his emotions to manage a game we sit there and bash them for it. This was a great move & why I love Madden.
People might not believe me but I grow up with Andrew 🦑. He lives around me he’s a good kid. Crazy how much he grew and became who he became I m truly happy for him. Also if you don’t believe it is what it is but ask me some questions.
I remember a Reds vs. Cardinals game in Pujols' prime when the announcers wanted the Reds to walk him with the bases loaded up three runs late, after which he immediately hit a grand slam. I think it was this game: th-cam.com/video/mEj-sw84G8I/w-d-xo.html
Only after the Madden betting scandal news breaks, will a lot of his coaching moves make sense. The moves he made during the World Series were beyond comprehension.
Oh wow, that comment about the balk about moving the arm every time-NOW I understand why pitchers do the same repetitive actions (pull hat, tug shirt, grab necklace ect)-because they do it to avoid a balk-TIL Thank you!
This happened with joe Madden when he was with the rays and Texas(kinda ironic) and it was on josh Hamilton. And one more time it was the giants and marlins. Where they walked Barry bonds. Sooo this did happen a couple of times before this one
The irony is, Joe Maddon walked Seager to avoid a potential multi-run at bat. But they ended up scoring multiple runs anyway! Galaxy brain maneuver from Maddon.
Mike Trout's face is the star of this breakdown.
I didn't notice that when I watched the game. That was hilarious
Almost like he was counting up the runners to make sure he wasn't crazy
That was the face of a man that is asking himself why he's still with that team.
huh? wah? the fuck? wah? huh? wah? the fuck?
Yeah with all the bullshit going on in the Angels right now, if I were Trout or Ohtani I'd be demanding a trade.
In the history of baseball this has happened 8 times I believe, and the team that walked in an intentional run in…has won each of those games.
Intentional walk4run strat is OP
No, not all the teams. They IW Barry Bonds when two runs down and the Giants lost by one run
@@jdromeo215 yes the team that walked in the run won
@@jdromeo215 that’s my point, Bonds was walked and the team that walked him won. In the history of baseball, the team walking in the run has always won
As Jomboy states, the other IW w/bases loaded were when the walking team had a lead, not already down and IW in a run. Very different situation
Even with how dumb this decision was, I love that they still won because it means teams are still undefeated when they intentionally walk someone with the bases loaded
The Texas Rangers: A Legacy of Failure.
That's all you need to know as to why they did it. The Angels knew they could come back.
@@snakeeyes9246 Urinating Tree.
@@bradynhughes yes, UrinatingTree. And also the fact that the Rangers are 2-9 through their first 11.
Longtime rangers fan, they won because my team has no idea how win. Two back to back botched World Series and a decade later I’m still miserable. Yayyyy, sports
@@crazyorangejoe3039 Even as a cards fan i feel bad for what Rangers fans had to go through.
The whole lipreading of the post-balk "deceive the runner" argument was unreal. Jomboy is in a league of his own.
That part had me rolling.
That was the best part for me
so good!
Tight AF too
Supposed to play hard on Jackie Robinson Day Bitches
gotta feel for the pitcher there man. maddon put him in an impossible spot. good on him to still get the outs there
Agree, if he was gonna do that he should have done it with the pitcher leaving the game...
I am so unpretty 😭 When I go to the bank, they turn the cameras off. At least I am a big star on TH-cam. So don't feel too bad for me, dear
@@AxxLAfriku you haven't been banned yet? Interesting
I mean...the pitcher who was in there before took the hit on the ERA. I would be pretty salty if I was him.
I dunno, he put himself there with 4 egregious balls. Joe just doing Joe. If this worked he'd be hailed as innovator as usual.
Imagine never watching baseball before and just seeing no ball being hit and people yelling then the other team scoring.
"what a weird game"
No ball even being _thrown_
And everyone is wearing 42
Wait how did you do italics I thought those were extinct
Maddon saying “I shouldn’t have talked to him” is criminally hilarious
Like something out of a movie
I think its "I shouldn't have walked him" but talked is much better
Not sure what he said there but to me it doesn't look like he said that
He didn’t say that.
Best manager in the league
“A lot of people watch breakdowns that don’t watch baseball.”
Guilty as charged. Must say, dude knows his audience. This stuff makes the slowest sport I have ever played exciting again.
I learn so much about baseball from jomboy, I don’t even know when games are on.
He makes baseball 10x more exciting
Yup that's what happens when world class athletes play a game made for average athletes.
I never watch baseball but don’t miss a breakdown
This channel is what got me into baseball. It also helped being a Boston Celtics fan and eventually becoming a Red Sox fan during their unexpected playoff run.
I had no idea you didn’t have to throw the four pitches anymore!
The whole "deceive the runner" line of dialogue is peak Jomboy lip-reading. He should straight-up do voiceovers for animated films and everything at that point.
beat me to my comment
@@varunkrishnaswamy4252 I'd like to see you try. Jomboy is one of the best lip-readers out there.
Would be better of in the intelligence domain. Like special cia agent or something loll
Or, on a serious note, for espn or journalism. God bless y'all
Baseball should consider just switching to 9 innings of tantrums followed by audience vote.
One of my favourite “rumoured” (no real record, only newspaper accounts) intentional walk with the bases loaded was in 1929. Phillies walked Mel Ott five times on the last day of the season to protect Chuck Klein’s homer lead in NL home run race. (Klein 43, Ott 42.) one of those walks was said to be intentional with the bases loaded
I checked on baseball reference and you’re right, he had 5 walks and 1 rbi. Though it was on the second to last game. (They had one game against braves for some reason…)
To be fair, intentional walks weren't an official statistic back then.
The old "can't beat our guy in the hr race of we never pitch to him" move
Stat-mongering at its finest.
I love how they give free walk when the bases are loaded while they are losing and still won the game. It's the utmost incompetency and the most disrespectful move I've ever seen. Like, how can you show your face after losing to a team that literally gave you a headstart, a kickstart, and a handicap?
Because our (the Rangers) pitching is worse than a hotdog that just got dropped in mud after going down a gutter
@@Diamond-pg4kc bro, our entire team is booty
It's success born out of stupidity and an inability to think before you act.
@@heyiplaydrums6821 don’t you have a good farm system though? With those prospects I feel you could be competitive in a few years
@@jaimelannister1797 you may be right, but I think I’m the direction that the rangers are going, trying build up a completely new team, firing people after their ninth game on the team, I think it will be a while.
You should really break down the insanely awful 2nd inning the Sox had in the first game of their double header a couple days ago. We had 4 (5?) errors and were down 10-0 with no outs in the 2nd. On top of the errors, 8 consecutive hits off Keuchel. Truly amazing stuff.
Let’s vote this up so Jomboy can do the breakdown! 😂
At this point after the intentional walking of a guy with a 1-2 count he could do a full series on just the dumb things of the 2022 Chicago White Sox. I don’t think I’d watch though because it would make me mad all over again.
@@Fonny222 not wrong, it's been a clown show on the South Side unfortunately
I remember in Little League, if at any point a team reached a 10-point deficit, the ump would just call the game and everybody went home.
They stalled so hard, they annoyed themselves. Amazing Maddon moment
It'll be a sad day when he retires
There’s no manager like him. He thinks so outside the box. Milkin the time disrupting the rhythm of batters. And He’s turning the worst pitching team into winners. MOst valuable manager in mlb
The pitcher was pissed; Maddon was lost; Trout wondering why he signed that contract; Angels still wants to move shop into LA.... all a fabulous drama on The Real Housewives of Orange County
This has happened 3 times in the past 30 years. All 3 of those times, the team that gave the intentional walk/run ended up winning
So he was going with the numbers.
Well if that’s what the numbers say, I look forward to the Rays intentionally loading the bases so they can do it.
@@adlowdon you know it !!! Go rays !!!
@@adlowdon Lmao they sure do like those numbers😂
Hmm, now that's an interesting stat.
You make baseball interesting again!! I love these breakdowns & the lip reading is crazy good. Keep up the good work bro. Glad I found you on the tube.
I was waiting for this. They treated Corey Seager like he's barry Bonds lol
Yeah
Maybe I’m wrong but did the same thing happen to mark McGuire?
@@iliketurtles7782 you are wrong it happened to Josh Hamilton
@@dyltack5349 ya I couldn’t find anything
@@dyltack5349 happened to maguire
The best part of this whole thing was Mike Trout counting the bases.
Was hoping that you'd mention this fun fact that, the last time a bases loaded Ibb happened: it was done by Joe Maddon...to the exact same team (Josh Hamilton), in this exact same zip code just across the street in their old stadium.
I also love in the post-game interview that he also admitted that it was to rile up his offense; and in the follow-up question "Do you think there's uh, better way to rile up your offense?" and his response was "Yes."
As an Angels fan even if we lost this I was perfectly fine with it due to the historic and cosmically coincidental entertainment this has brought.
It’s the first time a manager intentionally walked a batter with the bases loaded while trailing in the game since like 1890’something. God, I love being an Angels fan
I see your team is still wasting two generational talents with a clown show organization
@@FilonisHat first in our division right now, hopefully we can carry this on through the season
Yes, I remember that
The last time was a much different situation. I think the Rays were up by 3 runs in B9 and they didn’t want Josh Hamilton (who was in his full glory then) to hit a game-winning grand slam. They gave him the Barry Bonds treatment.
Maddon was a great manager for a long time, his record shows it, but he seems to be slipping. His mistake almost cost the Angels the game- for no reason. It was the players that were able to overcome it. His managing was moot after that boneheaded decision. Kudos to the team for stepping up and getting the W- no thanks to him.
I didnt mind him with the Cubbies but he def makes some questionable decisions at times. Plenty of people feel the Cubs won their WS in spite of him, not because of him with the moves he made those playoffs.
@@Fly-The-WI don’t know Maddon added a lot to that team even if it wasn’t for his managing In big moments
@@WheresMyInhaler I agree he added to the team at time. But that team was also absolutely stacked. They won with the talent on the field imo and I do disagree with moves he made.
"Alot of people watch breakdowns that don't watch baseball" that was me last year, this year I'm watching baseball BECAUSE of breakdowns. Watched this happen and couldn't wait for the breakdown! thanks Jomboy for giving me a great new hobby!
Welcome to the greatest game on earth!
So now you know how you're spending your evenings for the next 6 months.
This is really great to see. Baseball’s great, one of my fave things. Right after gambling drugs and hookers lol. I usually watch while gambling tho and doing some blow or meth. Only get lucky if I find a chick to go down on me while watching but sometimes hard to keep it up if I have more than $10k on the game, cause those are the times I’m way to nervous to keeper up. But once I got so excited on a 17th inning win I ripped right in broad’s mouth after the walkoff. This was before the runner on second BS. Called the broad in the 8th expecting extras and she, my word man, was down the entire time. What a load tho. Great day that was
Try a fantasy league next year!
@@Shabla7 fantasy drugs I already did like acid and stuff love blow to
You literally have the best channel on TH-cam. It’s nice to watch a wholesome channel about a wholesome game. I thank you so much for this content.
I like the “you’re better than that, John” insult. Maddon is insulting the umpire, which usually would get him tossed, but complimenting him at the same time which probably saves him from getting tossed. Smart tactic….
People get tossed for saying nothing bro that didn’t save him from getting tossed what? Over analysis outa “I eat pieces of shit like you for breakfast”…not a shocker that this guy wants to look smarter than he is
@@ShapedByMusic are you on the spectrum?
@@ShapedByMusic lol….are you ok, bud?
“What you’ve just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I've ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response was there anything that could even be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.”
@@samueld5418 I’m on the spectrum and we do not claim that guy.
@@samueld5418 don’t insult people on the spectrum with this association
I remember this happened when Bonds was up with bases loaded. But it was an intentional intentional walk
Makes me so happy seeing Austin Warren on here. Even if it was a scuffed anything xD Played ball with him in high school. Good times
It's been 2 weeks since this play. In that span the Angels are 10-3 and Corey Seager's BA has tanked.
Joe Maddon just plays ball on a higher spiritual level than the rest of us mortals.
Edit: nevermind, time and fate caught up with him.
And that starting pitcher just completed a No-hitter.
If that's the case then why have they lost ELEVEN STRAIGHT!!!!!
@@Westsideauditor1469 12 straight
And now it's been a month since your post and... the Angels have lost 12 straight.
And Maddon just lost his job.
Finally Jomboy covers a game I was at! As soon as I saw all this go down I knew. Instead of thinking about baseball history I was thinking of Jomboy.
And thanks for covering the pitcher and catcher just standing there for an eternity. That game ended sorta late and I had a 4hr drive home after so I blame this moment. Fun inning to watch tho followed by the Angels immediately coming back.
Also, Angels pitcher Austin Warren was being real cool during BP passing out balls to fans which only he and Mike Trout really cared to do. I felt bad he had to be at the center of this moment.
Woah 4 hrs that’s commitment 🤙🏽 what made you go out that far?
Yeah I was at the game too it was really interesting. Shohei hit those two bombs to right field and I was fired up!
@@ginogutierrez91 that's not distance that's stop and go LA traffic
@@cptmiller132 cap
@@ZendelWashington wtf do you mean cap? I've had 4 hour stop and go traffic in Memphis TN you think you can't get 4 hour stop and go traffic in one of the largest cities in the country?? Hold this L
Very interesting inning.
Joe Maddon really enunciates...I could almost read his lips myself :-)
Good job, Jomboy...I really like your narration.
Most likely was saying "shouldn't have walked him" rather than "shouldn't have talked to him"
The way his lips moved he def didn’t use a W lol
Definitely could have been, “I’ll think we’ll balk next”
🤣
Blame analytics for that. It's all about stats these days. Just let men play baseball.
@@bamafencer12 no numbers support this as a strategy. You can blame analytics for a bunch of stuff but not for this circus
He sticks the T in Talked pretty hard
Petition to have more breakdowns of players' zoomed-in reactions to what's originally being broken down.
This has my vote, as well. Jomboy's perceived inner monologues are legendary.
New baseball fan here from the UK. Only been watching for about 5 months, and even I was in shock watching this happen in real time. Made zero sense
Welcome to the game pal! Hope you're enjoying the ride so far. What's your team, if you don't mind me asking?
There are a lot of moments like that in baseball. When I first started going to my universities games, there were numerous times where I was confused or outraged at a rule or action that didn’t make sense
@@telperion4441 Rangers my friend (hence why watching). I consider myself a historian by nature so think I have a good feel for the game, I now know the major incidents, eras and players throughout history (gravitated towards Pudge Rodriquez and always been fascinated by Texan culture), so will probably spend this first year then becoming more accustom to rules, situation play and learning current players. Been watching series rather than specific games so I can learn rotations and orders a bit better.
How long would you say generally it takes to get to grips fully? Been a basketball fan for 15 years and that’s a relatively simple sport, been watching Football (American Football here) for about 8 years and that took a while, but feel NFL has a lot more niche aspects to it like route running/lineman play/clock management
It was an emotional moment for joe and his decision making lol
Welcome to Angels Baseball, reason number 1,234,897 why that Organization is one of the worst in the game, plus they waste HOF careers.
Man, I’ve never been a baseball fan, but I have to say watching your videos I’ve learned so much I’ve definitely become a fan. Thanks man!
Was it to deceive the runner?
I appreciate the way you explain the video to people saying "even if you don't watch baseball, this is what happened. Im a big baseball fan and I still learn a different rule from time, to time.
Didn't you know? Joe Maddon is a Baseball genius. He's right up there with Tony LaRussa, the man who invented baseball.
LaRussa didn't invent baseball - that was my great grandfather Luigi "Slats" Gabanzarelli
Tony LaRussa, also known more colloquially as "Mr Baseball"
@@ohger1 False. It was Abner Double LaRussa. Tony's ancestor.
Tony LaRussa wrote down the Unwritten Rules during Spring of 1948. Upon completion, he then burned the Unwritten Rules to thwart anyone from knowing the Unwritten Rules.
@@memorydrain7806 My great grandfather kicked Tony LaRussa's grandfathers ass!
I don't even watch/like baseball but I been binge watching your commentaries. They're so good!
About this balk, you have John Tumpane calling it - an excellent umpire who makes the right call, by rule.
However, I can't argue with Madden's argument here. I have made it many times (as an umpire!)
Madden's issue needs to be taken up with the rules committee, not the guy who is just doing what the rules say.
Rule 8.05 Comment: Umpires should bear in mind that the purpose of the balk rule is to prevent
the pitcher from deliberately deceiving the base runner. If there is doubt in the umpire’s mind, the
“intent” of the pitcher should govern.
I think what needs to happen is the balk rules need to be TIGHTENED rather than losened. I feel like a lot of the confusion comes from how vague the rules are. The rule is written as a list of things you can't do. The balk is an important rule, because the pitcher being predictable makes the running game possible. If runners cannot anticipate the pitcher, then it takes that aspect of the game away.
IMO it would be better to strengthen and expand the section that describes the "set" and "windup" position, as well as the rules around steping off and throwing to a base. Make the rules a list of "things you are allowed to do". Then make the balk rule "anything that is not exactly what the rules say you are supposed to do".
It would be so much easier to say "this was a balk because they deviated from the defined procedure for delivering a pitch" than which of the 100 things they did wrong.
I would have been all for the balk call if the ball had been in the pitching arm, but seeing as the ball was in the glove, it can't really be deception. If anything a delay of game would make more sense.
@@zym6687 Thank you for this. I have used this to support my opposition (again, as an umpire) to many of the "start/stop" balks that my colleagues would jump on. However, we have to understand that the way Tumpane called it today is entirely consistent with the way MLB umps have been calling this same thing, for years. Again, I don't like 90% of the start/stop balks that are called, but they are consistent with the interpretation that MLB has adopted about the rule 6.02(a)1 - The pitcher, while touching his plate, makes any motion naturally associated with his pitch and fails to make such delivery.
I, personally, don't agree.. but my opinion doesn't count.
Didn't look to be a rule call but rather a judgment call that he made a motion to throw the ball. It wouldn't have been my call. Maybe Joe could have asked for some help from the other boys in blue.
Loving these longer breakdowns. Its awesome how you do lip readings and the making it funny too. Great job Jimmy. 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼😂😂😂
love seeing seager get treated like bonds lmao
That’s Maddon style. Doing things outside of the box. Even if things don’t go his way, you got to appreciate his boldness to try something that goes against peoples opinions. I remember with the Cubs, he would do things that made people get upset.
Man I forgot the most entertaining thing about baseball isn’t the endless waiting around by millionaires but hearing Jomboy’s forensic lip reading analyses
Imagine being mad at the millionaires making money off their talent instead of the billionaires looting cities for their personal gain.
@@CIARUNSITE eh? Wtf that got to do with baseball exactly? Or do you think I am unaware of the exploitation of the masses by corporatists? I’m not, just don’t bring it up because in a game that last 3-4 hours I can watch less than 20 minutes of highlights and catch pretty much the whole thing.
@@CIARUNSITE Hey since 1/5 of Californians will have left by 2030 due to the century long drought, economic and sociopolitical upheaval, rampant homelessness and malfeasance of those in the government and corporate positions of power can we just get the Angels out of Anaheim and moved to Austin Texas instead? There that cover all the bases you felt needed to be covered?
@@CIARUNSITE You can complain all you want but you still buy there shit and pay thier subscription fees so you’re just another hypocrite. I haven’t bought a ticket to a film since 2017, have never had an Amazon account and cancelled my Netflix in 2019. Those fucks aren’t getting my money directly. That’s how change will happen, enough people doing just that, but you don’t. You talk shit and sip your Starbucks, play your Spotify while you do all your shopping on Amazon.
@@joshuapatrick682 "Wtf that got to do with baseball exactly?" uhhhhhhhhhhh
How can I read the gambling disclosure if you've go the end screens covering it? 7:43 I just lost all my savings betting on the Diamondbacks.
Joe Maddon desperately wants to be like Belichick and recognized as the smartest guy in the room. Unfortunately for him he rarely is.
He's not doing too bad. They're in first in a division that's favored to go to the Astros or even the Mariners. So time will tell
Or never is.
I’m a Cubs fan and this gives me major flashbacks to when Maddon almost blew the World Series in 2016.
Yep. Maddon is a terrible manager, was so glad to see him leave Chicago.
*Flashing Green Light Warning* Hilarious and very educational stuff as always Jom, hope you're havin' a good day.
I’m one of the non-baseball people you referred to, and I’d just like to thank you for explaining as much as you do. I watch your channel for the entertaining commentary no matter what the sport :)
I'll always love Maddon for the 2016 Cubs but even his craziness almost cost them a championship.
That 7th game became pure torture because of his absurd decisions.
I feel kinda the same. He was at the helm when the Cubs finally won, but I wouldn't say they won those last few games because of his managing. More like they won in spite of it. Being honest, I stopped watching game 7 when the "Cuban Missile Crisis" happened and switched to radio. I seriously couldn't fathom the idea of watching them blow game 7 in extra innings. Being a longtime Cubs fan I truly expected the worst to happen when Chapman came out looking completely gassed and relying heavily on his breaking pitches.
@@patrickmcdaniel2048 Yes, Maddon put Chapman in to pitch in game 6 with the Cubs having at least a 5 run lead. That was a real head scratcher there
@@jupiteral8217 yea, he burned him when he didn't have to, but he brings a petting zoo to the clubhouse so he's a "genius." Truth is, without that rain delay in the 10th and Jason Heyward's motivational speach, they probably don't win.
I've never once watched a baseball game, but for some reason I've stumbled across your videos and I really enjoy it
4:00 ngl totally thought my monitor broke
The weather is getting warmer, baseball is back, and that means Jomboy breakdowns every day until fall. It's the little things in life.
I think a lot of it had to do with the fact that we gave up a grand slam the day before. Maddon realized how much of a gut punch that was because it basically put us out of the game early. He also mentioned that he wanted to do it to “fire the guys up” which technically worked considering we won the game 🤷♂️
Jomboy's lip reading is TOP NOTCH! No one does it better.
Barry Bonds must be pleased with this
This is the first time that a runner was walked in via an IBB where no pitch was thrown, and therefore the first time in MLB history that a batter has earned an RBI without seeing a single pitch.
Great observation:)
Rumor has it, Jomboy is semi-responsible for ending the MLB lockout.
I remember when Maddon did this with the Rays years ago. Walked Josh Hamilton back when he was good because they were only up by a couple runs, and bases loaded at the end of the game. Rays ended up winning by one I believe. So it worked out.
I think Maddon has a point about the balk rule and what peeves me the most about it. The tiniest movement even if to no reasonable person would perceive it at part of a windup can be called a balk. Most of the time when a balk is called I need a replay to even show me what the movement was.
But you wouldn’t need the replay if you were a runner on base. You can’t gauge that from the perspective of a fan watching on tv at home. You have to gauge it from what a runner on base sees.
"And then Shohei hit a home run" could end a lot of stories.
As an Angels fan, what a clusterfuck of an inning 😂
as a rangers fan, this was funny as shit 🤣😂🤝🏽
It's the only appropriate word for the situation. Just.. wow.
@@manenavarro5572 until the Angels took the series from you and The Houston dumpster divers. Ran through Texas!😄
Rams beat Cowboys 59-6
@@zacsdiyguns are you just looking for any Angels fan you see just to talk shit? Lol
No question why he was fired….
"Maddon enjoys getting attention for doing weird and unique things" THANK YOU. As a Cubs fan I obviously love him but I swear he's gotten addicted to the limelight
Great job on the lip reading and dubbing when the managers speaking. I actually watch this game live and was like the f is going on. Lol
The mound visit makes me realize the pitch clock might not be a bad thing
Amazing lip reading man, truly. Made this so much more engaging to watch
Waiting for a break down of that college pitcher leveling the kid coming around 3rd after the homerun
You know I never realized how little was actually being said in baseball arguments but your lip reading has opened my eyes LOOOOOOOOL
42 played great this game.
And this is why Maddon has not been called for a managerial position this winter
The last time this happened while a team was losing was in 1929 when the Giants were beating the Phillies 11-3
I can't go to bed without watching at least 1 @jomboy video. I don't even follow baseball but i love his videos
In senior league baseball (13-14-15 year olds) a long time ago, we were playing a practice game BEFORE the season started. Bases loaded. Our two best 15 year old hitters coming up. The opposing coach intentionally walked both of them. Our coach said: "We're done, boys...get your gear. Game over". So our coach quit the "practice game" on the spot.
“You can only do that if you do it every single time” lmao perfect explanation of the balk and how the definition can be a little confusing, it’s pretty much just all at the umpire’s discretion. That’s one call they can make where they truly have all control. It’s pretty rare to see a truly obvious balk that everyone watching can agree on.
I can see this as a wise strategic move - even though it costs a single run - IF the batter you walked has the real potential to hit for 2 or more RBI(s) AND the on-deck batter is a better target for your existing pitching - I would make that call all day long.
I've done something similar as a coach - walked a batter with bases loaded because he launched a shot that hasn't landed yet in a previous @ bat AND hit for a double. The on-deck batter was retired with 6 pitches - a strike out.
So... a real risk of 3 runs against a single run and good odds for a strikeout or force play.
I've seen it work AND I've seen it backfire - but the stats would say play the odds.
This is the most bizarre and hilarious breakdown and my favorite ever.
"Seager has been better against lefties than righties this year"
Yeah, but he's been much better against righties in his career, and I think a few full seasons should outweigh a couple weeks' worth of games
You’re a great lip reader dude. Makes the video so much fun to watch. Keep up the great work.
2:20 There is absolutely no need for a manager to go to the mound to make a pitching change... if the goal is to speed up games, why hasn't MLB eliminated this antiquated practice?
NHL coaches are able to make a goalie change just fine without walking out to the crease...
I really love watching your lip reading I’D LOVE TO SEE A LIP READING of the Hand Shakes and Convo’s after a NHL Playoff series is done.. they all chat, some good, some bad but it would be SUPER INTERESTING
If I had a nickel for every time Joe Maddon has intentionally walked a Rangers hitter with the bases loaded and still went on to win the game, I’d have two nickels.
Which isn’t a lot, but it’s weird that it’s happened twice.
Twice? Really 😂
This is super interesting! I assume you'll be covering "pitcher tackles guy who hit homerun" soon? Haha
Remember when Maddon walked Bryce Harper every plate appearance (including with the bases loaded) for a whole game and it totally worked? Hehe..
The best part of every Jomboy breakdown is the well synchronized lip reading.
This video is an excellent example of why people don’t like baseball but do like Jomboy. I feel like I’m watching the titanic every time I put a baseball game on, and if you follow a team you’re watching the titanic 162 times like why…
The part with Trout. Naturally funny. Keep it it man.
Can you do the Rangers triple play from last night? I don't get it.
Appreciate these uncensored.
This is one of those second guessing moments. He is a genius if it works. We need to stop crucifying managers like this. we keep saying we don't want the game to be ruined by too many analytics and you have to use your eyes and feel out there. as soon as a manager does use his emotions to manage a game we sit there and bash them for it. This was a great move & why I love Madden.
It was a shit move. Maddon’s a shit manager. I gotta take a shit.
Great move? You high ffs?
Joe Madden tried to lose the world series for the Cubs by over analyzing everything and abusing Chapman. Dude isn't even close to a genius.
People might not believe me but I grow up with Andrew 🦑. He lives around me he’s a good kid. Crazy how much he grew and became who he became I m truly happy for him. Also if you don’t believe it is what it is but ask me some questions.
I remember a Reds vs. Cardinals game in Pujols' prime when the announcers wanted the Reds to walk him with the bases loaded up three runs late, after which he immediately hit a grand slam. I think it was this game: th-cam.com/video/mEj-sw84G8I/w-d-xo.html
Jomboy, you are amazing with the balk lip reading. Well done.
The simple fact that you don't have to throw 4 pitches to intentionally walk a batter now is why baseball has completely gone bat shit crazy.
@watchtheirhands 2 shut up dude Jesus Christ
@watchtheirhands 2 give it time
@@nonyabusinessgoaway why are you gay?
@watchtheirhands 2 gotta love when people create fake worlds in their head to be mad at lmao
Your lip Reading is getting better. Holy so good
Only after the Madden betting scandal news breaks, will a lot of his coaching moves make sense. The moves he made during the World Series were beyond comprehension.
Oh wow, that comment about the balk about moving the arm every time-NOW I understand why pitchers do the same repetitive actions (pull hat, tug shirt, grab necklace ect)-because they do it to avoid a balk-TIL Thank you!
"You're better than that John"
"Yeah? Well You're the John that intentionally walked in a run"
This happened with joe Madden when he was with the rays and Texas(kinda ironic) and it was on josh Hamilton. And one more time it was the giants and marlins. Where they walked Barry bonds. Sooo this did happen a couple of times before this one
The irony is, Joe Maddon walked Seager to avoid a potential multi-run at bat. But they ended up scoring multiple runs anyway! Galaxy brain maneuver from Maddon.
The voice-overs are just great.
As a Dodger fan I feel bad for Mike Trout for being in the Angels his whole career.
I keep coming back to the Trout's reaction to this. Brilliant.