I have fired thousands of these rounds in my bolt action rifle and never had any problem with them not exiting the barrel. They still hit the target with good power. I really love this round!
@@yootoobvyooerMake sure you’re grabbing the “Super” calibri, as ive found some of the old calibri on the shelves that are 400fps not the 590 of the Super. I love this stuff for basement fun with my sons with our savage mk2 target rifles.
I've used Colibri .22 quite a bit and find it generates greater velocities from a handgun than a rifle. I suppose the projectile only needs a few inches of barrel length to achieve peak velocity, with additional barrel length beyond that to literally become "a drag". Just remember, these use only a primer compound as a propellant and as we all know, that contains lead styphinate... certainly something you don't want accumulating indoors, especially in living quarters. If you use these indoors, ventilation is important.
When my boys were little, this is what I taught them to shoot with, in our back yard with bolt action rifles. We never had any issues with them not leaving the barrel. Hours and hours of fun. Great memories too.
I guess it all depends on the exact bore size (and length) They work fine for me in a Rossi .22 break-action - one of those .22/.410 matched pair models. - TM
...that Colibri stuff is excellent for a small indoor/parlor range..I've used it to l shoot down the hallway of my home into a target box filled with old magazines set up in my bedroom..the loudest sound is the sound of the bullet impacting the box...
@laurence1643 ..my dad had a bullet trap he bought at Sears..and Roebuck set up.in our cellar..we used'ta shoot his S&W K22 (pre Model 17...5 screw)with CB caps..
No. Colibri is primer only. Super Colibri has some powder, is about 100 fps faster, and can usually be used with rifles with 18" (and sometimes longer) barrels. Otherwise they're the same. I fire this stuff all the time. Either one fires fine in my 10/22 and Henry lever action. In some longer barrel rifles like my 1937 Ranger 103, Super fires fine but regular Colibri doesn't. This stuff is great in a tubular magazine lever or bolt action.
I’ve been using these for 15+ years. I bought a Marlin 882 bolt gun, stuck an old scope that was laying around and zeroed it in my 40 ft long hallway using a phone book as a backstop. It was setup, specifically to use this ammo, to shoot squirrels out of my bird feeders. Distance from dinner table to feeders was right at 75 feet. I say dinner table because I sat a shooting rest on the table, slid the patio door open about a foot and wait for the tree rats to arrive. Along with those were field mice/rats that came in to take fallen birdseed off the ground. This gun is quieter than my Benjamin pump-up air rifle and will do head shots all day long. I estimate that it has taken over 500 critters so far. The only down side is, the ammo has gotten way more expensive and is harder to find. When I began, I could buy a brick (500) for $15. Should have been buying it by the case. 😎
I started using these almost 20 years ago in a lever action rifle. They are sufficiently accurate and super quiet. I've used them to dispatch grackles and crows out to 100' or so and they don't spook my livestock.
Dardick 1500, and landstead 1900 revolvers would beg to disagree. Tho i'd agree no serious production revolvers ever came in this pattern @@Bobdixon_Moonvarga_Dancer_III
I like it, works well in my antique 22 long revolver. I would add that the burned primer compound fouls the gun with a fine grit. A quick squirt of WD-40 and I’m back in action, all without stressing the steel.
I used to play with a pellet gun all tue time. My dad and I would shoot in the garage when it was cold or hot out. Anyway one day he comes out with his ruger and a box of ammo. Blew me away he was doing that. After he shot one we got excited and shot 2 boxes. Those things are crazy fun.
@gaba8934 I had decent results out of some of their loads, but overall, i found them to be crap. I haven't even used their brand in almost 20 years. Usually use cb longs now. I'm looking for a box of the 60 grain subsonic loads now. Want to try I through a suppressor. Last time I shot a few they were absolutely filthy. Might be better by now.
@@tireballastserviceofflorid7771 Although I never had great accuracy results with Aguilar Colibri, I must say I had outstanding accuracy results with their subsonic rounds: and they used to be priced right, too.
Both Colibri and the hotter Super Colibri work well in a Contender carbine, where any stuck bullet will be obvious. The Super Colibri is louder, but it is also quite a bit more accurate, in my opinion.
It is a GREAT cartridge, I've been using it for a while. It's actually kinda loud out of a pistol, but I've more so used it in a couple of my OLDER 22LRS like my 1904 Winchester and model 67. I guess the rifling isn't as tight as in a newer 22lr. BOY is it QUIET from those 2 rifles that I mentioned. My old cap gun and ANY of my pellet rifles are LOUDER!!! Maybe my old, old Daisy BB rifle, which is like the "Red Rider" BB rifle!!!😮😊😊 KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK PROMOTING THE 2ND AMENDMENT!!!
I make a similar thing with 9 mm cases and just the primer, mold hot glue bullets in my bullet mold from Lee precision stuff them together and they make a great training tool and a soft pop into a box full of rags in my workshop. It was also a good training aid for teaching my kids proper handling and safety. There's not enough energy to even cycle the action what loads of fun at 20 ft!
I was wondering how the CB/BB Cap rounds compared. I was given hundreds of rounds of BB/CB cap .22 ammo, along with an equal number of .22 short rounds. I've never really thought about using them for anything, but figured they'd be useful some day.
We shoot these in a suburban backyard into mulch filled coffee cans at 15 yds. The noise of these hitting the plastic cans is louder than the report from a 16in barrel
Been shooting Colibri from my .22 revolvers in my living room for year! Used to use an old Outers steel bullet trap, but the sound of the bullet hitting the trap was louder than the report. Stuffed a box with old magazines instead.
This is what my son learned to shoot with. A little kid bolt action with a 10 round magazine. My daughter still likes it and she is 17. It will put a hole in a pop can. It’s still a firearm, just not much of one.
When I bought my house I built a home made indoor basement range. These colibri rounds came in handy when testing sound deafening and penetration testing for my backstop. Shortly after that I got my home based FFL and took up making form 1 silencers as a hobby and also used super colibri to test my silencers I made.
Your mileage may vary but With both the Colibris and Super Colibri in 26 inch barrelled bolt action rifle with absolutely no retained shots and the closest thing to a silenced weapon for back yard use. Neither will cycle a semi auto though.
Great vid. I have guns dedicated to CCI Quiet, CB Caps and Colibris. First time I bought Colibris I got them from Cheaper than dirt when they were starting out. $10/brick delivered. I bought 10. These were before the Super Colibris at 510fps
Cool stuff! You could also use a good quality laser target kit. No smoke, no noise and no mess so you can use it indoors! I use it for quick draw first shot practice and indoor tactical stuff.
Had mixed results from different lot #'s. Run a patch through barrel after bout ten shots or so. They're dirty. Lots of fliers. I've used the supers(which DO have a tad bit of powder in them) with some success shooting rats at 15 yards. Shot a regular colibri at a back stop in my garage and it bounced back at me and almost hit me in menards! Be safe and make sure they clear your barrel! Lubing them sometimes helps also.
Beware: lower velocity rounds tend to ricochet more Side note:these kolibris work best in bolt action 22s like the savage mk2. Locks in full pressure. Totally quiet and max velocity.
FLOBERT invention this I 1850s for parlor guns then S&W bought into his patten thus the modern cartridges wow got a couple of them around 1880s love to get my hands on sun to plink around with grandsons
These are ridiculously quiet out of a long barrel but really loud still out of short barrels. Out of my 22" they come out at 230fps, perfect speed for small animals around the city neighborhood.
LOl.. I discovered this stuff maybe ten years ago? Anyway it seemed to good to be true. I am mostly a handgunner but not really a 22 guy. I do have a 1936 Smith and Wesson outdoorsman which is really just a K 22 The gun is perfect mechanically and.... accurate? really? I bought a bullet trap for reasonable and started shooting these things indoors at around 24' I used one inch circles for targets. I would change targets or use a dot next to it when there was nothing left of the dot. Pretty much this ammo and my K22 will shoot 3/4" or less at this distance. Two things tho.... it is not a toy. it is also sorta kinda dirty and there will be a soot channel on your carpet if you shoot in the living room... lay down some plastic... also... my daughter had to try it and missed the trap entirely. The bullet went through both layers of sheetrock on the wall behind the target and hit the microwave shattering the glass. soooo..
Definitely NOT a toy! Neither are air guns that fire metal projectiles! Even a "Daisy Red Ryder". When I got my first Daisy as a kid, I was taught (drilled into me, LOL) the same rules for it as if it was a Marlin Model 336! 53 years later still fun. I've been lately getting back into rimfires. I don't care what other guns/calibers one was EVERY shooter should have AT LEAST one .22! Oh, and the "big boy" airguns are a BLAST as well!
@@jamesslick4790 yes.. I agree. and my first BB gun my mom was against so my dad spent a lot of time with me showing me safety and such. When I take new shooters out (private property) I will set gallon jugs of water on the ground and have em shoot from say 15' I don't tell em how to stand or hold the gun (unless they are doing it unsafely) or how to align the sights. It takes a long time for most people to get good with a handgun because there are so many ways to be horrible but for then.. I just tell em to put the front sight on the jug. Two good things happen... One.... putting a hole in a piece of paper does nothing to convey just how destructive a bullet is (except in the movies where 9mm bullets put a 3" hole in a paper target) When that jug all but disentigrates in an explosion of water? well they get the point I think... and... once they hit a few jugs they want to hit a lot more of em and want tips. how to align the sights etc.
They nosedive in some magazines but downloading (a lot) usually allows manual cycling. Super dirty in the chamber as well as on the ground between the muzzle and target. The filth can cause (manual) extraction problems and light strikes in autoloaders and DA revolvers. The problem persists not just for this ammo but whatever you load afterwards until you do a more thorough cleaning than should ever be needed for a modern firearm. I think they’re worth it, but you should know what you’re getting into.
According to their website both Calibri 420 fps. and Super Calibri 590 fps. are still made . I've used hundreds of both Calibri and Super Calibri in a Henry .22 lever action rifle with no problem .
I purchased a 177 peiiet gun and to test it I shot a 2x4 and the pellet fully penetrated the 1-5/8 thickness and was flush with the far side. It really surprised me, but really sank in the need to be far more attentive than the “ b-b “ gun I assumed it be similar to. Break action Diana . Seriously greats RedSquirrels that attack my bird feeder 😮
I have a few boxes, but I haven’t had the opportunity to use them much. Hot glue bullets have worked for me. Similar to the wax bullets that some have used and loaded like the plastic trainer bullets that Speer sells. Use a hot glue gun to cast the bullets in a standard bullet mold. Only primers in the case. Magnum and rifle primers seem to have a little more power. No powder is used. Just push the bullet in. Smaller calibers with handguns seem to have more velocity. My 450 bushmaster was pretty weak. Black powder caps usually won’t let them clear the barrels. But a 209 primer in my muzzle loader works great. These will damage drywall, so don’t shoot people. Crayola makes a pencil top eraser that fits the.50 cal muzzle loader. But these are only good for one shot. Recycling them leaves 1!2 of it in the barrel. I tried.40sw out of my g35 outside. Couldn’t feel a breeze, but could see leaves moving slightly. The impact was about 4 feet from point of aim. This has worked well for me using cans as targets with a bag of cans as a back stop. I would like to work up range loads for these. There may be quite the mess in the barrel. Colibri is hit or miss locally, but someone besides me also buys them.
Great for mice and smaller rats. For big rats, it requires a head shot. At least based on my experience. I use it with a LifeCard w/suppressor. No action noise and super quiet. Great for suburban yards.
when i first shot this round from a rifle at 3/4 “ plywood target about 15’ away ; bullet ricocheted back and hit me in the stomach then bounced onto floor causing no harm😮
22cal stuff usualy starts at 14.3 grain not 21 grain .177 standard amo is usually 7.9 grains speeds even for over 500 fps will vary on the upto rating a its all upto does not mean it will do it even with the lightest pellets
Like you said these are not for rifles. My experience with these and rifles: Bought several boxes for squirrels instead of my .22 PCP. First rifle barrel is 24 inches and these are absolutely all over the place. Second rifle barrel is 21 inches and same story, all over the place. Fired some CCI quiet loads out of both rifles and they worked perfectly and consistently. I had several of these rounds give muffled report and they left powder flakes in the actions upon ejection. My understanding was the Colibri rounds only used the primer for propellent and the Super Colibri had a few flakes of powder as I experienced. I also heard these do not function very well at all with barrels past 16 inches which goes with my experience also, but I do not have a .22 pistol or shorter barrel rifle to compare. They are sitting on the shelf waiting for when my other half lets me get a .22 pistol now. I may try them in my AR .22 conversion with a 16 inch barrel sometime.
Been shooting the Colibri and Super Colibri for years, fun fun stuff. The smell of these rounds is different though, some find it quite objectionable. I can't imagine it inside
if your getting upto 450 fps out of these bullets it will shoot from a rifle or a pistol in Canada for our aiguns that do not require a licence in many cals will all fire just fine so there is no reason why these bullet shold not fire out of any firearm.. .22 cal also has 80% more energy then .177 cal even at the same speeds
There's a variety of .22 CB and BB Cap available and I always thought that they were a tad more powerful than a .177 air rifle i had at the time but air rifles have gotten a lot more powerful over the years so I doubt that it holds true of many modern air rifles.
Good luck finding it though. I've been searching for this ammo for over a year and have never been able to find it in stock at any reputable dealer. Maybe one day I'll bump into the guy with the stockpile😮💨
I thought those were cb caps. I used to use them in my 10/22 and 22/45 in the basement. I had to use needle nose pliers to load and unload, but they were fun
@jeffhutchins7048 I stand corrected, I googled bb caps and found this..... "Yes, there is a .22 caliber BB cap, also known as the 22 BB Cap or Bulleted Breech Cap. Louis-Nicolas Flobert invented the .22 BB Cap in 1845, making it the first metallic rimfire cartridge. It's a low velocity, quiet cartridge that's designed for indoor target shooting. The .22 BB Cap is interchangeable with the .22 CB Cap, which is also known as the 6mm Flobert and is a more powerful version of the .22 BB Cap. The CB Cap is the same length as the BB Cap but uses a conical bullet. "
A bit late to the party. I've been shooting Colibri and Super Colibri for years. But now you can't find it anywhere. Aguila still makes both of them, supposedly.
The Super Colibri rounds get stuck in Ruger 10/22 10 round magazines. I would definitely stick to pistols, bolt action or lever action short barrel rifles.
I've seen the tiny one's that are just barely large enough to mount the bullet... but I didn't know they made them with full length 22lr cases. The smaller one's weren't as useful, because they won't work in most semi auto's and it's hard to load them into a 22lr semi-auto. You'd probably be more likely to smash them and have an out of battery detonation if you tried to load them from the magazine with racking the slide on a .22lr semi-auto.
These don't really work in semi-autos either. Some of the people in the comments here report some guns that will cycle them, but I've never had any luck with that. - TM
@@fmgpubs I know. I just found out now that the small one's are actually a lot more powerful than the Super Colibri. The .22CB and the .22BB rounds range from about 21 to 29 ft-lbs. That's a lot more powerful than I ever would have expected. As far as I know, they're only charged with a single primer load and have no powder in them. I really wish I could reload my old .22lr brass into these... or at least I wish I could uncrimped brass and bullets for these, so I can load them myself. I really think I could make some fun little guns for indoor target practice.
I had a mouse run across the floor between the tv and my couch late night one night pumped up BB gun 2-4 times had it laying pointed in the general direction of the spot where it would stop for a few seconds and made a slight adjustment in direction.took 2 tries but it did the trick. Without any damage to anything. 1 Unnoticeable ding in base board. Maybe. These would probably work for that. Just had a couple seconds to act & the movement off sitting up & aiming ,took too long. The mouse took off. Nasty no bladder having creatures. Have a cat now. A stray turned up. Kitten.skin & bones,smelled like she had been eating roadkill or something.made an appointment to get her fixed,got back in good health while waiting on the appointment..She already had surgery,tattooed but the left ear snip had healed up perfectly with no visible scar.Vet took a 1/2 moon cut off left ear & we called it a day. indoor/outdoor cat…no litter box required 😊.She’s on the job 24-7. Thx for sharing info about this ammo .like your pistol. Getting into suppressors after November comes and goes. Something like that sparrow & a little bigger for a tricked out short & folding 10-22 ,tactical solution with the shroud that counts as barrel length and protects the suppressor is what I am thinking about doing. Then something for a AR or something. Maybe a AUG (sp?)556 either way. Take care.
The .22 short with 29gr bullet (std velocity version) produces about 615 fps (24 fpe) from a 4-inch handgun. Still a good bit above the diminutive pinking power of a std velocity Colibri. Wondering if the Super Colibri uses a pinch of propellant besides the primer....
I have pulled the bullet and set the primer off with a gas torch. It goes off with a very loud bang. Real power in whatever they use as a priming compound!
Those example air rifle performance stats are pretty generous. Particularly when talking about guns you might buy from a big box store. 46ft/lb seems pretty dang high for any .22 pellet gun.
Not sure what ammo we used, but i took a ccw class where range training was shooting a target at the end of a hall. Semiautomatic and revolver each with laser.
Agreed and is a great option. But these are handy to keep in a single action revolver and there’s no fuss of having to charge the CO2, or pressurize a tank, etc. Roy
advertised air rifle velocities are quite over rated. Most real-world .177 pellets are roughly 8 gr and achieve around 850-950 fps velocities. Most real-world .22 pellets are 14-16 gr and achieve velocities of 750-850 fps. Yes there are examples that are higher (pre-charged pneumatic s and some multi stroke pneumatics) but are not (or haven't been) the norm especially with any degree of accuracy. I do agree with what you have said of the super colibri though.
@@fmgpubs I have a brick and some boxes, I know they are a ton of fun, back when I lived in a neighborhood it was a great way to pop soda cans in the back yard without cops showing up. I just never shoot it any more because I never see it in stock. :(
This was how I discovered some heavy leading in a Ruger Single Six. Shot like a champ at first (and always accurate within expectations in the M&P 22 Compact) but it leaded the Single Six, so I had to clean more frequently. A healthy cleaning cleared the accuracy issues right up. For me anyway. Might help to check that? - TM
I have fired thousands of these rounds in my bolt action rifle and never had
any problem with them not exiting the barrel. They still hit the target with good
power. I really love this round!
Same here, out of a 21 inch barrel , fun stuff
I use 28in green mountain barrel 10/22, shoots fine for most parts, but always worried about squib.
I've had fun with these, but I would still check the barrel every so often. Some barrels have tighter tolerances.
Me too. Squirrels and chipmunks in close don't stand a chance!
@@yootoobvyooerMake sure you’re grabbing the “Super” calibri, as ive found some of the old calibri on the shelves that are 400fps not the 590 of the Super. I love this stuff for basement fun with my sons with our savage mk2 target rifles.
I've used Colibri .22 quite a bit and find it generates greater velocities from a handgun than a rifle. I suppose the projectile only needs a few inches of barrel length to achieve peak velocity, with additional barrel length beyond that to literally become "a drag".
Just remember, these use only a primer compound as a propellant and as we all know, that contains lead styphinate... certainly something you don't want accumulating indoors, especially in living quarters. If you use these indoors, ventilation is important.
Good point!
TBF I am not sure if it even contains lead styphinate given how the rounds smell like superglue when fired.
When my boys were little, this is what I taught them to shoot with, in our back yard with bolt action rifles. We never had any issues with them not leaving the barrel. Hours and hours of fun. Great memories too.
I guess it all depends on the exact bore size (and length) They work fine for me in a Rossi .22 break-action - one of those .22/.410 matched pair models. - TM
...that Colibri stuff is excellent for a small indoor/parlor range..I've used it to l shoot down the hallway of my home into a target box filled with old magazines set up in my bedroom..the loudest sound is the sound of the bullet impacting the box...
@@cbroz7492
I did the very same thing. So much
fun in small space.
I have an airgun target - a box filled with a couple inches of duct putty - which does the job perfectly. And it quiet on impact - TM
I wonder how a circular metal bullet trap would work ?
@laurence1643 ..my dad had a bullet trap he bought at Sears..and Roebuck set up.in our cellar..we used'ta shoot his S&W K22 (pre Model 17...5 screw)with CB caps..
Boy I can get in trouble with this….
No. Colibri is primer only. Super Colibri has some powder, is about 100 fps faster, and can usually be used with rifles with 18" (and sometimes longer) barrels. Otherwise they're the same. I fire this stuff all the time. Either one fires fine in my 10/22 and Henry lever action. In some longer barrel rifles like my 1937 Ranger 103, Super fires fine but regular Colibri doesn't. This stuff is great in a tubular magazine lever or bolt action.
@garyderoy ...I inherited my dad's Ranger 101..a copy of the Savage 87..it's close to 100 years old....
I’ve used these in my revolver 22s for years. Great fun!
I’ve been using these for 15+ years. I bought a Marlin 882 bolt gun, stuck an old scope that was laying around and zeroed it in my 40 ft long hallway using a phone book as a backstop. It was setup, specifically to use this ammo, to shoot squirrels out of my bird feeders. Distance from dinner table to feeders was right at 75 feet. I say dinner table because I sat a shooting rest on the table, slid the patio door open about a foot and wait for the tree rats to arrive. Along with those were field mice/rats that came in to take fallen birdseed off the ground. This gun is quieter than my Benjamin pump-up air rifle and will do head shots all day long. I estimate that it has taken over 500 critters so far. The only down side is, the ammo has gotten way more expensive and is harder to find. When I began, I could buy a brick (500) for $15. Should have been buying it by the case. 😎
LOL, bro you are 🐿️ Dexter.
Brick of 500 for $15?! Not even close now! 😢
Never heard of this ammo.
Thanks for the introduction.
No problem 👍
I started using these almost 20 years ago in a lever action rifle. They are sufficiently accurate and super quiet. I've used them to dispatch grackles and crows out to 100' or so and they don't spook my livestock.
I was using CB caps to shoot at targets out my back door. FYI those will pierce the paneling and sheet steel of a double wide outside wall.
Perfect for a revolver!
but they won't cycle an automatic
Automatic revolver doesn’t exist, its an oxymoron
@@Bobdixon_Moonvarga_Dancer_III he didn’t say that, assume much?
@@akbychoice look at the original comment then look at the reply above mine, reading comprehension much?
Dardick 1500, and landstead 1900 revolvers would beg to disagree. Tho i'd agree no serious production revolvers ever came in this pattern @@Bobdixon_Moonvarga_Dancer_III
I like it, works well in my antique 22 long revolver. I would add that the burned primer compound fouls the gun with a fine grit. A quick squirt of WD-40 and I’m back in action, all without stressing the steel.
I used to play with a pellet gun all tue time. My dad and I would shoot in the garage when it was cold or hot out. Anyway one day he comes out with his ruger and a box of ammo. Blew me away he was doing that. After he shot one we got excited and shot 2 boxes. Those things are crazy fun.
Unfortunately, I never found Colibri to be very accurate on any of my 22 rimfires.
@gaba8934 I had decent results out of some of their loads, but overall, i found them to be crap. I haven't even used their brand in almost 20 years. Usually use cb longs now. I'm looking for a box of the 60 grain subsonic loads now. Want to try I through a suppressor. Last time I shot a few they were absolutely filthy. Might be better by now.
@@tireballastserviceofflorid7771
Although I never had great accuracy results with Aguilar Colibri, I must say I had outstanding accuracy results with their subsonic rounds: and they used to be priced right, too.
This report is a load of crap, the new Daisy 901 is 860 FPS on full pump, no noise, no report, nothing to clean, NO FIRE coming out.
@MrCobb-rq8iv Load of crap? Do explain. My story is from 1992 or 93 at the latest. Do explain though I'm curious.
Both Colibri and the hotter Super Colibri work well in a Contender carbine, where any stuck bullet will be obvious. The Super Colibri is louder, but it is also quite a bit more accurate, in my opinion.
It is a GREAT cartridge, I've been using it for a while. It's actually kinda loud out of a pistol, but I've more so used it in a couple of my OLDER 22LRS like my 1904 Winchester and model 67. I guess the rifling isn't as tight as in a newer 22lr. BOY is it QUIET from those 2 rifles that I mentioned. My old cap gun and ANY of my pellet rifles are LOUDER!!! Maybe my old, old Daisy BB rifle, which is like the "Red Rider" BB rifle!!!😮😊😊 KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK PROMOTING THE 2ND AMENDMENT!!!
I have my dad's old Model 67. I'm pretty sure it has a 26" barrel. If I recall correctly, I used to shoot these and CB caps out of it in town.
Big thank you for this video, I had no idea this kind of ammo exists, Absolutely picking some up!
You're welcome! We gotta share the fun stuff :-) - TM
I have had no problems with the super colbri in my rifles, and I use the regular colbri in my revolver.
I make a similar thing with 9 mm cases and just the primer, mold hot glue bullets in my bullet mold from Lee precision stuff them together and they make a great training tool and a soft pop into a box full of rags in my workshop. It was also a good training aid for teaching my kids proper handling and safety. There's not enough energy to even cycle the action what loads of fun at 20 ft!
See also Flobert cartridges. And CB or BB rounds. And 4mm zimmerschutzen. There's a whole 'nother world of this type of cartridge in Europe.
I was wondering how the CB/BB Cap rounds compared. I was given hundreds of rounds of BB/CB cap .22 ammo, along with an equal number of .22 short rounds. I've never really thought about using them for anything, but figured they'd be useful some day.
We shoot these in a suburban backyard into mulch filled coffee cans at 15 yds. The noise of these hitting the plastic cans is louder than the report from a 16in barrel
I have used these for many years in revolvers. Very nice. Thanks for the video
Used to shoot my BB gun into thick cardboard boxes as a kid growing up. Also I have used it in my daughter’s Cricket 16” barrel
Been shooting Colibri from my .22 revolvers in my living room for year! Used to use an old Outers steel bullet trap, but the sound of the bullet hitting the trap was louder than the report. Stuffed a box with old magazines instead.
Try some duct putty in the back? - TM
I've never had a problem using those Calibris in my Henry H001 and my Savage MK ll bolt action.
This is what my son learned to shoot with. A little kid bolt action with a 10 round magazine. My daughter still likes it and she is 17. It will put a hole in a pop can. It’s still a firearm, just not much of one.
Fairly accurate out of MkIII 22/45 Target. Manually ejecting cases isnt bad at all. Good clean fun.
When I bought my house I built a home made indoor basement range. These colibri rounds came in handy when testing sound deafening and penetration testing for my backstop. Shortly after that I got my home based FFL and took up making form 1 silencers as a hobby and also used super colibri to test my silencers I made.
Some of the funnest ammo I’ve had
Your mileage may vary but With both the Colibris and Super Colibri in 26 inch barrelled bolt action rifle with absolutely no retained shots and the closest thing to a silenced weapon for back yard use. Neither will cycle a semi auto though.
Used to be .22 CB Cap ammo, very slow.
This stuff is so hard to find, I buy it when I can, love it
Great vid. I have guns dedicated to CCI Quiet, CB Caps and Colibris. First time I bought Colibris I got them from Cheaper than dirt when they were starting out. $10/brick delivered. I bought 10. These were before the Super Colibris at 510fps
I actually used it for ccw classes inside the classroom. It's great ammo. It's hard to find now.
Live ammo in classroom is recipe for accident
Cool stuff! You could also use a good quality laser target kit. No smoke, no noise and no mess so you can use it indoors! I use it for quick draw first shot practice and indoor tactical stuff.
Had mixed results from different lot #'s. Run a patch through barrel after bout ten shots or so. They're dirty. Lots of fliers. I've used the supers(which DO have a tad bit of powder in them) with some success shooting rats at 15 yards. Shot a regular colibri at a back stop in my garage and it bounced back at me and almost hit me in menards! Be safe and make sure they clear your barrel! Lubing them sometimes helps also.
Beware: lower velocity rounds tend to ricochet more
Side note:these kolibris work best in bolt action 22s like the savage mk2. Locks in full pressure. Totally quiet and max velocity.
FLOBERT invention this I 1850s for parlor guns then S&W bought into his patten thus the modern cartridges wow got a couple of them around 1880s love to get my hands on sun to plink around with grandsons
These are ridiculously quiet out of a long barrel but really loud still out of short barrels. Out of my 22" they come out at 230fps, perfect speed for small animals around the city neighborhood.
This might be a lot of fun in my winchester 06
LOl.. I discovered this stuff maybe ten years ago? Anyway it seemed to good to be true. I am mostly a handgunner but not really a 22 guy. I do have a 1936 Smith and Wesson outdoorsman which is really just a K 22 The gun is perfect mechanically and.... accurate? really? I bought a bullet trap for reasonable and started shooting these things indoors at around 24' I used one inch circles for targets. I would change targets or use a dot next to it when there was nothing left of the dot. Pretty much this ammo and my K22 will shoot 3/4" or less at this distance. Two things tho.... it is not a toy. it is also sorta kinda dirty and there will be a soot channel on your carpet if you shoot in the living room... lay down some plastic... also... my daughter had to try it and missed the trap entirely. The bullet went through both layers of sheetrock on the wall behind the target and hit the microwave shattering the glass. soooo..
Definitely NOT a toy! Neither are air guns that fire metal projectiles! Even a "Daisy Red Ryder". When I got my first Daisy as a kid, I was taught (drilled into me, LOL) the same rules for it as if it was a Marlin Model 336! 53 years later still fun. I've been lately getting back into rimfires. I don't care what other guns/calibers one was EVERY shooter should have AT LEAST one .22! Oh, and the "big boy" airguns are a BLAST as well!
@@jamesslick4790 yes.. I agree. and my first BB gun my mom was against so my dad spent a lot of time with me showing me safety and such. When I take new shooters out (private property) I will set gallon jugs of water on the ground and have em shoot from say 15' I don't tell em how to stand or hold the gun (unless they are doing it unsafely) or how to align the sights. It takes a long time for most people to get good with a handgun because there are so many ways to be horrible but for then.. I just tell em to put the front sight on the jug. Two good things happen... One.... putting a hole in a piece of paper does nothing to convey just how destructive a bullet is (except in the movies where 9mm bullets put a 3" hole in a paper target) When that jug all but disentigrates in an explosion of water? well they get the point I think... and... once they hit a few jugs they want to hit a lot more of em and want tips. how to align the sights etc.
Colibri, Super Colibri , CB , BB, BR ,, I have shot them all The Super Colibri would sometimes cycle in my marlin 795
It works great in my Browning BL-22, all you hear, is the hammer drop.
I like plinking with this ammo, but I've been using CB 22's most of the time. A little louder but more accurate.
I’ve fired a lot of rounds of 9mm subsonic through a suppressor in the basement. Grainger and MSC catalogs make an excellent bullet stop! 😂
They nosedive in some magazines but downloading (a lot) usually allows manual cycling. Super dirty in the chamber as well as on the ground between the muzzle and target. The filth can cause (manual) extraction problems and light strikes in autoloaders and DA revolvers. The problem persists not just for this ammo but whatever you load afterwards until you do a more thorough cleaning than should ever be needed for a modern firearm. I think they’re worth it, but you should know what you’re getting into.
They also drop like a rock ....
Good way to practice your lob shots :-) - TM
According to their website both Calibri 420 fps. and Super Calibri 590 fps. are still made . I've used hundreds of both Calibri and Super Calibri in a Henry .22 lever action rifle with no problem .
5:09 That's exactly what I was thinking about. Single shot .22lr rifles.
I purchased a 177 peiiet gun and to test it I shot a 2x4 and the pellet fully penetrated the 1-5/8 thickness and was flush with the far side. It really surprised me, but really sank in the need to be far more attentive than the “ b-b “ gun I assumed it be similar to. Break action Diana . Seriously greats RedSquirrels that attack my bird feeder 😮
Indeed. Modern air rifles are very effective! Roy
I have a few boxes, but I haven’t had the opportunity to use them much.
Hot glue bullets have worked for me.
Similar to the wax bullets that some have used and loaded like the plastic trainer bullets that Speer sells.
Use a hot glue gun to cast the bullets in a standard bullet mold.
Only primers in the case.
Magnum and rifle primers seem to have a little more power.
No powder is used.
Just push the bullet in.
Smaller calibers with handguns seem to have more velocity.
My 450 bushmaster was pretty weak.
Black powder caps usually won’t let them clear the barrels.
But a 209 primer in my muzzle loader works great.
These will damage drywall, so don’t shoot people.
Crayola makes a pencil top eraser that fits the.50 cal muzzle loader.
But these are only good for one shot. Recycling them leaves 1!2 of it in the barrel.
I tried.40sw out of my g35 outside.
Couldn’t feel a breeze, but could see leaves moving slightly.
The impact was about 4 feet from point of aim.
This has worked well for me using cans as targets with a bag of cans as a back stop.
I would like to work up range loads for these.
There may be quite the mess in the barrel.
Colibri is hit or miss locally, but someone besides me also buys them.
It's great ammo i have used in my pellet gun range in my basement. Tough to find to buy .
Great for mice and smaller rats. For big rats, it requires a head shot. At least based on my experience. I use it with a LifeCard w/suppressor. No action noise and super quiet. Great for suburban yards.
For fun check out thief Sniper Round. Big bullet . short case. Same overall length. Neat
60 grain subsonic, 22 L.R. dimensions in a 22 Short case. Great for suppressor use.
I’ve fired them and they really thump the target. I flat-point them. Roy
It works great out of a 22lr golden boy.
They exit my Remington 511X barrel fine (24 inch) although I do swab out the barrel every 50 shots.
Do you swab it out with WD-40 to help the bullet along LOL? - TM
when i first shot this round from a rifle at 3/4 “ plywood target about 15’ away ; bullet ricocheted back and hit me in the stomach then bounced onto floor causing no harm😮
22cal stuff usualy starts at 14.3 grain not 21 grain .177 standard amo is usually 7.9 grains speeds even for over 500 fps will vary on the upto rating a its all upto does not mean it will do it even with the lightest pellets
Like you said these are not for rifles. My experience with these and rifles: Bought several boxes for squirrels instead of my .22 PCP. First rifle barrel is 24 inches and these are absolutely all over the place. Second rifle barrel is 21 inches and same story, all over the place. Fired some CCI quiet loads out of both rifles and they worked perfectly and consistently. I had several of these rounds give muffled report and they left powder flakes in the actions upon ejection. My understanding was the Colibri rounds only used the primer for propellent and the Super Colibri had a few flakes of powder as I experienced. I also heard these do not function very well at all with barrels past 16 inches which goes with my experience also, but I do not have a .22 pistol or shorter barrel rifle to compare. They are sitting on the shelf waiting for when my other half lets me get a .22 pistol now. I may try them in my AR .22 conversion with a 16 inch barrel sometime.
The super colibri rounds work just fine in a chiappa little badger.
A perfect platform for it. Roy
In the 60's there was a shooting game in a bar that I went to. I think it was bb short .22 rounds...
Been shooting the Colibri and Super Colibri for years, fun fun stuff. The smell of these rounds is different though, some find it quite objectionable. I can't imagine it inside
Ventilation / fans are always in order for indoors shooting for me :-) #SafetyFirst
Often have fun with colibrí on steel at 50yards.. 🎉 super colibrí only hear the firing pin drop.😊
if your getting upto 450 fps out of these bullets it will shoot from a rifle or a pistol in Canada for our aiguns that do not require a licence in many cals will all fire just fine so there is no reason why these bullet shold not fire out of any firearm.. .22 cal also has 80% more energy then .177 cal even at the same speeds
Not for auto loading 22s. I have a 22 bolt it can work there.
Yeah I was thinking this would be great for my son's P22, but it already has cycling issues so this definitely aint working in that.
Mine is the white box early? I bought like 3k rounds way back when.
Good luck finding any. I live in the Northwest and not seen any for sale anywhere for years.
You can buy this stuff online if you nose around. Check Midway, Sportsmans Wherehouse, etc. Roy
There's a variety of .22 CB and BB Cap available and I always thought that they were a tad more powerful than a .177 air rifle i had at the time but air rifles have gotten a lot more powerful over the years so I doubt that it holds true of many modern air rifles.
I believe the Super Colibri has some powder in it. The Colibri has only the primer.
Ammo won't come out of 39a marlin lever gun, or my 62a winchester pump gun. Be careful.
Been doing this for years. Its louder hitting the target then being fired lol
Good luck finding it though. I've been searching for this ammo for over a year and have never been able to find it in stock at any reputable dealer. Maybe one day I'll bump into the guy with the stockpile😮💨
If you cant find it on ammo seek youre probably not going to anywhere else
I miss the availibity of "BB" caps, have'nt seen it inyears! good show!
I thought those were cb caps. I used to use them in my 10/22 and 22/45 in the basement. I had to use needle nose pliers to load and unload, but they were fun
They were cb caps.....I still have some.
@michaelgraham8854 your right....my old guy texting 🙄
They made BB caps. Don't think they've been available for DECADES.
@jeffhutchins7048 I stand corrected, I googled bb caps and found this.....
"Yes, there is a .22 caliber BB cap, also known as the 22 BB Cap or Bulleted Breech Cap. Louis-Nicolas Flobert invented the .22 BB Cap in 1845, making it the first metallic rimfire cartridge. It's a low velocity, quiet cartridge that's designed for indoor target shooting. The .22 BB Cap is interchangeable with the .22 CB Cap, which is also known as the 6mm Flobert and is a more powerful version of the .22 BB Cap. The CB Cap is the same length as the BB Cap but uses a conical bullet. "
A bit late to the party. I've been shooting Colibri and Super Colibri for years. But now you can't find it anywhere. Aguila still makes both of them, supposedly.
The Super Colibri rounds get stuck in Ruger 10/22 10 round magazines. I would definitely stick to pistols, bolt action or lever action short barrel rifles.
years ago CB- caps, BB caps could be shot at home with a little care.
I've seen the tiny one's that are just barely large enough to mount the bullet... but I didn't know they made them with full length 22lr cases. The smaller one's weren't as useful, because they won't work in most semi auto's and it's hard to load them into a 22lr semi-auto. You'd probably be more likely to smash them and have an out of battery detonation if you tried to load them from the magazine with racking the slide on a .22lr semi-auto.
These don't really work in semi-autos either. Some of the people in the comments here report some guns that will cycle them, but I've never had any luck with that. - TM
@@fmgpubs I know. I just found out now that the small one's are actually a lot more powerful than the Super Colibri. The .22CB and the .22BB rounds range from about 21 to 29 ft-lbs. That's a lot more powerful than I ever would have expected. As far as I know, they're only charged with a single primer load and have no powder in them. I really wish I could reload my old .22lr brass into these... or at least I wish I could uncrimped brass and bullets for these, so I can load them myself. I really think I could make some fun little guns for indoor target practice.
Pronounced Uh-GEE-luh. Good stuff, all of it!
I had a mouse run across the floor between the tv and my couch late night one night pumped up BB gun 2-4 times had it laying pointed in the general direction of the spot where it would stop for a few seconds and made a slight adjustment in direction.took 2 tries but it did the trick. Without any damage to anything. 1 Unnoticeable ding in base board. Maybe. These would probably work for that. Just had a couple seconds to act & the movement off sitting up & aiming ,took too long. The mouse took off. Nasty no bladder having creatures. Have a cat now. A stray turned up. Kitten.skin & bones,smelled like she had been eating roadkill or something.made an appointment to get her fixed,got back in good health while waiting on the appointment..She already had surgery,tattooed but the left ear snip had healed up perfectly with no visible scar.Vet took a 1/2 moon cut off left ear & we called it a day. indoor/outdoor cat…no litter box required 😊.She’s on the job 24-7. Thx for sharing info about this ammo .like your pistol. Getting into suppressors after November comes and goes. Something like that sparrow & a little bigger for a tricked out short & folding 10-22 ,tactical solution with the shroud that counts as barrel length and protects the suppressor is what I am thinking about doing. Then something for a AR or something. Maybe a AUG (sp?)556 either way. Take care.
The .22 short with 29gr bullet (std velocity version) produces about 615 fps (24 fpe) from a 4-inch handgun. Still a good bit above the diminutive pinking power of a std velocity Colibri. Wondering if the Super Colibri uses a pinch of propellant besides the primer....
I have pulled the bullet and set the primer off with a gas torch. It goes off with a very loud bang. Real power in whatever they use as a priming compound!
It does. I pulled one apart.
@@donaldeisenmenger2222 That's what I figured, thanks for confirming.
Those example air rifle performance stats are pretty generous. Particularly when talking about guns you might buy from a big box store. 46ft/lb seems pretty dang high for any .22 pellet gun.
I’d agree, but if you go the PCN route, you can chase that easily. Roy
Not sure what ammo we used, but i took a ccw class where range training was shooting a target at the end of a hall. Semiautomatic and revolver each with laser.
Huh??? So, that's different LOL...
Just make sure it makes it out of barrel, my 69A they stopped 4 inches short of the muzzle. They work ok from a Savage 30G 19 inch
I guess on the plus side it's so low power it won't be blowing up any barrels should one run into a squib! - TM
Deeper penetration into wood from a 6 inch barrel than a 19 inch barrel
It did fine in the 10/22
Byproducts of priming compound ignition are not exactly healthy so do ventilate if you intend on shooting these inside your home.
For those who are wondering: Yes! Your wife will most certainly be unhappy if you leave .22 brass on the basement floor. Don’t ask me how I know 🤷♂️
Haha!
.22 pellets guns shoot.14 gr pellets at approx. 700 ft/sec.
Agreed and is a great option. But these are handy to keep in a single action revolver and there’s no fuss of having to charge the CO2, or pressurize a tank, etc. Roy
Good luck finding any
Sounds similar to Flobert BB caps.
I ise CCI CB shorts in my levergun, never had a malfunction
I can shoot any ammo at home if I want.
advertised air rifle velocities are quite over rated. Most real-world .177 pellets are roughly 8 gr and achieve around 850-950 fps velocities. Most real-world .22 pellets are 14-16 gr and achieve velocities of 750-850 fps. Yes there are examples that are higher (pre-charged pneumatic s and some multi stroke pneumatics) but are not (or haven't been) the norm especially with any degree of accuracy. I do agree with what you have said of the super colibri though.
The two different varieties are Colibri and Super Colibri. I have both but can’t really tell any meaningful difference between them.
I think they've dropped back to only making new Super Colibri these days... - TM
Is this stuff still even made? I haven’t seen any in stock anywhere in years.
It is. Try Midway and other online sources for them. They’re great fun. Roy
@@fmgpubs I have a brick and some boxes, I know they are a ton of fun, back when I lived in a neighborhood it was a great way to pop soda cans in the back yard without cops showing up. I just never shoot it any more because I never see it in stock. :(
I am surprised the air rifle is stronger than the Colibri. You didn't mention .22 shorts which are probably stronger than anything on your list.
A short would be more powerful. But a .25 or even some .22 Pre-Charged Pneumatic rifles can fire a 30 gr. slug at 1,000 fps or more! Roy
It works fine out of a 16-inch rifle
I love that ammo but I can't find it anywhere.
I keep an eye on midway and other online sources. Leave your email to be notified when it’s in stock. Roy
So what I'm hearing is my buddies and I can use these in place of airsoft guns.
Once? But seriously, definitely not. Roy
....yes I know! CB caps.....lol, I'm old and text poorly!
Same thing as CCI CB caps.
Damn, I was hoping to use this in a blot action rifle:(
You can run them in a bolt action .22. You might need to single load it though, it depends on the action. Roy
I have tried it over the years. Don't expect to hit a target except by accident. The stuff goes all over the place from rifle or revolver.
This was how I discovered some heavy leading in a Ruger Single Six. Shot like a champ at first (and always accurate within expectations in the M&P 22 Compact) but it leaded the Single Six, so I had to clean more frequently. A healthy cleaning cleared the accuracy issues right up. For me anyway. Might help to check that? - TM
And of course, it's definitely not "match" grade :-)