5 gallons of UDT2 is $93.84 at my local dealer. I agree, the price of oil is ridiculous! Years ago, a quart of oil use to cost the same as a gallon of gas: a quarter!
@@khtractors I’m like you, I don’t like risking oils while it’s under warranty, but you take care of your equipment like I do - so we’re at less risk of failure to begin with. I’m still looking for a 1-ton (or bigger). I think that the next time that old blue Dodge gives you grief, you probably ought to get she’d of it. I just so happen to be willing to relieve you of the burden of it’s ownership LOL. Of course, that ol F700 looks good, too 😁
@@Mark-Marine I hope you can find a good truck soon. I wish that F700 was in better condition, if it was I’d mount the dump bed on it. Have a good day!
Heard too many stories of bad experiences with trying to find an alternative fluid. The additive package in UDT from Kubota is just not what the others have. For the HST or hydraulic systems I recommend the Kubota fluids for Kubota tractors and John Deere fluids for John Deere and same for other brand tractors. Seriously, there is a difference in the additive package. I believe Ashland Oil is maker of Kubota oils but they’re using the additive package Kubota is requesting for their units. To me it’s not worth the risk of trying an alternative fluid. Just one opinion in many. Have a Blessed Day
It’s formulated specifically for Kubota UDT II, it’s not a universal fluid. I also know of a M6800 that’s ran regular universal tractor hydraulic fluid at it has 4,000 hours with no issues. But you do your thing and I’ll do mine, just wanted to share this for those who might be interested. Obviously I’m not an oil’s expert like others might be! Thanks for watching!
I have a Kabota M6800 with 2500 hrs. I use the Kabota Super UDT2 when I service, but I use O’Reilly’s premium universal tractor fluid to maintain levels until next service. I seem to get a lot of leaks though. I go through a 5 gallon bucket approx every month during summer.
Kubota hydro oil was idemitsu daphne and that's what every piece of equipment came filled with could of been their super hydro st type 3 wich is a zinc free aw oil and the utd oil is just a multiviscosity 10w30 oil now the additive packages are not complex like people think and each one passes a diffrent test so having a din51524 type 2 test passes all kubota fluid except for their skidsteers require type 3 so the super utd can be replaced by napa tractor trans or any tractor trans meeting j20c test and the premium hd46 from kubota can be replaced with any din type 3 fluid this is also stated in all their equipment manuals in the back but this guy just needs napa tractor trans oil
@@YourDadVR There is a decent chance you are leaking around seals like the rear axles and pto shaft seals. Those leaks have a way of leaking right down the side of the case without being easily seen then dripping off the bottom of the pan.
Right, the UDT2 additive package is far worse than even the generic store brands. I sent 9 different brands of tractor hydraulic fluid to Blackstone for lab testing and UDT2 had the lowest count of additives. Check it out, the video is on my channel.
Last time I bought hydro oil for my M6060 I got it from a Kubota and New Holland dealer and I bought the New Holland brand for $80 for 5 gal per the dealer recommendation, they said it was basically the same and met all Kubota standards, wouldn’t void warranty etc. the Kubota oil if I remember correctly was 115 or 120.
This is oil specifically formulated for Kubota according to everything I’ve researched. So I’m hoping it does well. Thanks for the information and for watching! Have a great weekend!
if an alternate says suitable or compatible and not approved, it isnt, there was a suit over ATF and the company said we only claimed it was suitable not that its the approved alternate. thus not responsible if the unit wears out as a result
I talked with my dealers parts and service manager. WHen they get a warranty in on an HST or gear shift, Kubota requests an oil sample to make sure it is using the correct fluid. Many a claim has been denied from using the generic 303 fluid, but he did say that Mystic makes a fluid that is compatible. The Mystic JT5 is a direct compatible to Kubota UDT, not UDT2 because that is synthetic. Kubota prefers you use UDT2 at all times, UDT in a pinch. So IOW, if you use UDT or JT5, change it more often. Stens 770-734 Stens Shield Hydraulic Oil claims to be UDT2 compatible.
the last udt2 I bought was $140 for 5 gal . I had my tractor serviced at 500 hours still under warranty. My dealer charged me $998. for 500 hour service. It says on the receipt they used63.3 quarts of bulk Delo 1000 and $100/hr labor. Price for Delo 1000 was $6.69 quarts. I thought they would use udt2 like it said in the manual to use.
Hi bro, can you tell me the colour of the Kubota udt? Cause mine in the gearbox is tending to white.. is normal or there is water inside? Thanks a lot!
I hope this goes well for you. I messed up a shuttle shift using the wrong oil every since that I wont buy anything but Kubota. they say its the additives that kubota uses that makes the difference. these secret recipes drive me nuts. hope you get to the thousand and more. I will try to give you some help.
Yeah have been nervous about using something besides Kubota oil, but I feel this is formulated as close to OEM UDT as I’ve found. Any help is appreciated! Thank you!
These "secret recipes" really aren't all that secret. There's only so many additives available to put in these oils. You definitely can put in the wrong type and mess something up. But just like parts, Kubota wants you to buy their parts from their dealers. Dealers make more money on parts than the actual sale of the equipment.
@@arrowjmfarms very true. its all in how much money you have to risk using the wrong fluid mixture that shuttle shift was a 50 plus hp tractor and that was a costly mistake. I'll stick with the Kubota brand in that pretty bucket with that nice logo. lol then hope for the best. lol
How often do you change your transmission fluid in your M6060? Manual says 500 hours for filters and 1000 for fluid I think. That seems to long to go to me. You mentioned the warranty aspect and that was recommended to me to use kubota fluids under warranty just in case. I like having a warranty but im also looking forward to it being over. Very good video.
I do use Kubota filters, they are worth the money compared to other brands. Messicks did a comparison video one time on filters. I’m changing fluid at 700 hours. This will make the 2nd time changing it. I change my hydraulic filters yearly. That averages out to 280 hrs on them. Where I use my remotes a lot it’s easy to get contamination. Thanks!
That Kubota UDT is very expensive I tried to get Permatram 821XL from my dealer for my newer M-F 1526 & I was told they could not ship it & ask me if there was a Kubota dealer near by & said I could use that, they are about 15 miles from my house , I called & got sticker shock! I ended up driving to another M-f dealer about 60 miles away , closer than where I bought my tractor .The Permatram 821XL is a semi synthetic , not a full & was only about 25 $ cheaper for 6 gallons & at the same time I had to service the M-F 50 which takes 8 gallons had to order it from NAPA and they only sell it in 5 gallons pales, ouch again it cost me about the same as the 6 gallons of Permatram 821 XL the M-F 50 requires a mineral gear oil. Long story short You got a good price on the oil . I'll have to check them out to see if they sell other types oil ,not that I need any anytime soon thanks for the info. & tip as well as the video.
Any problems after trying the Stens synthetic hydraulic fluid? I am with you….$115 is quite expensive…I am looking for an alternative fluid for my Kubota SVL 75 skid steer
We shall see! I spend a fortune in oil each year so saving a few 💵 where I can helps. But I don’t want to sacrifice quality either. Thanks for watching!
The Kubota isn’t a full synthetic either, full synthetic is hard to find ever since the mobile/castrol lawsuit that ended up allowing highly refined group 3 base Dino oil to be considered full synthetic. Before this happened if it said full synthetic it was 90 percent or even a higher percent group 4 and 5 base oil. A lot of times even then it was necessary to add in some group 3 to be able to blend in the additive package being pure group 4 and 5 base does not blend well with certain additives. In other words the full synthetics today are not the full synthetics of before the lawsuit. With that said, oil has came a long way and still test better overall. I do notice that it doesn’t last the mileage that a group 4 and 5 does.
I just emailed the company to see if they have a comparison spec sheet I might could share in a video. I can’t find an exact breakdown of all the properties of the Stens Shield oil. Go look at there website and read about it if your interested. I’ll do my best to get you an answer if I hear back. Thanks
@@khtractors Yeah I went to their website and read everything. I would also like to find a very good equivalent to UTD2. Mystic makes a semi-synthetic thats equivalent to the older super udt like older m5040 calls for but it’s got 3400 hours with nothing but travelers premium in it and the hydraulics are still strong, clutches and everything good but I’m thinking about going back to at least a semi-synthetic.
@@thechestnutking736 I looked up this oil just now and the price has increased a good bit since I made the video. I wonder if the Kubota oil has went up a lot too.
@@khtractors Kubota oil is anywhere from $105 to $120. Just priced the mystic and it’s as high as the Kubota but found an oil on Amazon that exceeds Kubota Super UTD2 for $77 and 5 gal bucket. Has the Data sheet and everything. Think I’ll try it. duragardoil.com/durunihyd.php
It’s been doing fine. Last time I checked though the price was nearly the same as Kubota. So if that’s the case I’ll just get Kubota oil next time. I found this on eBay at the time. Thanks for watching!
I called Zimmerer Kubota in Fort Worth and the Super UDT2 is going for $98.52/5 gallons and the Kubota CJ-4 15w40 engine oil is $17.35/gallon. I never thought I'd be saying this, but I'm going to buy from the dealership.
I have run that in my L3130HST for 200hrs, because I didn't know any better. It's worked fine for me. I'm just now looking into what all the fuss is about, lol.
Kubota UDT2 is not a full synthetic, it's semi-synthetic. I lab tested 9 brands and posted that video on my channel. There are definitely good alternatives out there.
I had to rebuild my trans ... synchronizers failed. I ended up replacing them along with all the bearings.. Oil and filters are cheap compared to iron and steel parts. I hope that as crude oil prices around the world are normal again oil at the parts stores oil would cost less. Sounds like I had wishful thinking. @khtractors
I bought a 3301 new and it howled and had problems from day 1. It wasn't broke so warranty wouldn't do anything. The backhoe finally wouldn't work (after warranty expired) and I worked on it all winter. I finally did my own testing and the viscosity was to thick compared to UDT. That's the problem with other "Kubota compatible oils" is the viscosity difference. Not all this additive super lubricating sales baloney. The valve assy on the backhoe has some orifices that are less than 0.020" (some metric dia?) and it won't flow thicker fluids. I suspect the same on trans lube areas. On my first oil filter change the filter was collapsed inside also. All I can figure is that the factory left in preservative oils in the hydraulic rams or something that caused the thicker oil. That will be the only and last Kubota I get. I stick with CAT. They use standard universal 10W hyd fluids. None of this "special" garbage and microscopic orifices that a Kubota has. A little more engineering and they could make these Kubota's universal instead of requiring special fluids. An "all synthetic" may have a low enough viscosity that it will work right, I don't know. Be aware that there are some very small orifices that have to flow the oil in a Kubota.
Yes it’s silly for each brand to do something to try and make you buy their oil. My friend has ran regular universal hydro oil in his M6800 and it has 4,000 hrs now so I’m not too concerned. This oil says it’s specifically formulated to meet or exceed Kubota UDT2 standards. Thanks for sharing your experiences.
Your L3301 with a hydrostatic drive is a problem after 500hrs (almost a "throw-away-tranmission"). Kubota has been leaning on their good reputation to sell massive amounts of 60 hp & less tractors to satisfy entry level buyers that only put less than a hundred hours a year ,with hydrostatic tranys. They "really " recommend every 200hrs total fluid & filter changes ---for warranty reasons. After the first 50 hours, and 325.oo$ (hydro fluid service) of pain & suffering & every 200hrs there after this "novelty" wears off. The expense is usually transmutted to cheaper filters & fluids or neglected service intervals causing catastrophic failures that kubota "wipes their hands clean" of the warranty. These & all other brands are VERY expensive (hydro-drives) to operate & maintain on an hourly aspect. Thanks for the great vidio Sir and happy safe Tractoring.
Let me share a little tidbit of info..... I work for a major municipality. Do you think we buy the brand name oil for every piece of equipment we own? NO.... we get bulk Hydraulic oil and it goes in everything from the tiny snow plowing tractors to the D8 dozers running the dump. Never seen a failure I thought was related to oil brand. I think some of you get way too caught up in brands instead of change interval. Same guys who act all high and mighty about oil brands are the same guys who buy into the 10k oil change intervals..... just saying.
@@TheMonkdad no, I’m at 2,000 hours without adjusting them. My buddy has a M6800 with 5,000 hours and no adjustment. Not saying that’s a step to skip though.
I’d use stens fluid in an older tractor but not gonna risk it on my $30k new kubota …..not worth the little bit of savings imo.. Typically I don’t use that much oil other than maintaining hydraulic level with a little loss when unhooking couplers and fluid changes at proper intervals… I’ve heard too many horror stories to risk it….got too much invested to try and save a buck.
It does for hydraulic oil. It says to change at the first 50 hrs. I quickly changed the filters and just added what oil I lost on that service. Then changed the oil on the next interval.
@@khtractors I haven’t got into the owners manual yet as soon as I got it I went to work with it. Might dig into it tomorrow. First 50 hours. OMG!!!!350$ just for the oil.
@@stevem2266 it’s not cheap at all. Be sure to change those hydraulic filters at 50hrs. They have magnets which pulls the metal shavings out from manufacturing, mine had a good bit of big stuff.
No I haven’t used it in the BX. Last time I checked the prices had doubled on this product since I made the video so I’ll probably just use Kubota oil next time. Appreciate you watching!
It appears that Valvoline makes the Kubota Super UDT2 transmission oil, but I'm having a hard time finding which Valvoline oil is the rebranded Kubota oil. See Kubota's informational page: www.kubota.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/Kubota_Super_UDT2_Trans-SDS-1.pdf
That’s because Kubota has a marketing agreement with Ashland Oil which stipulates that Ashland’s Valvoline brand will not offer their branded version of the product.
Thanks for the video, now I feel a little better!
Thanks!
5 gallons of UDT2 is $93.84 at my local dealer. I agree, the price of oil is ridiculous! Years ago, a quart of oil use to cost the same as a gallon of gas: a quarter!
$93 sounds a lot better then $115! It’s expensive having equipment. Thanks
@@khtractors I’m like you, I don’t like risking oils while it’s under warranty, but you take care of your equipment like I do - so we’re at less risk of failure to begin with.
I’m still looking for a 1-ton (or bigger). I think that the next time that old blue Dodge gives you grief, you probably ought to get she’d of it. I just so happen to be willing to relieve you of the burden of it’s ownership LOL. Of course, that ol F700 looks good, too 😁
@@Mark-Marine I hope you can find a good truck soon. I wish that F700 was in better condition, if it was I’d mount the dump bed on it. Have a good day!
Heard too many stories of bad experiences with trying to find an alternative fluid. The additive package in UDT from Kubota is just not what the others have. For the HST or hydraulic systems I recommend the Kubota fluids for Kubota tractors and John Deere fluids for John Deere and same for other brand tractors. Seriously, there is a difference in the additive package. I believe Ashland Oil is maker of Kubota oils but they’re using the additive package Kubota is requesting for their units. To me it’s not worth the risk of trying an alternative fluid. Just one opinion in many. Have a Blessed Day
It’s formulated specifically for Kubota UDT II, it’s not a universal fluid. I also know of a M6800 that’s ran regular universal tractor hydraulic fluid at it has 4,000 hours with no issues. But you do your thing and I’ll do mine, just wanted to share this for those who might be interested. Obviously I’m not an oil’s expert like others might be! Thanks for watching!
I have a Kabota M6800 with 2500 hrs. I use the Kabota Super UDT2 when I service, but I use O’Reilly’s premium universal tractor fluid to maintain levels until next service. I seem to get a lot of leaks though. I go through a 5 gallon bucket approx every month during summer.
Kubota hydro oil was idemitsu daphne and that's what every piece of equipment came filled with could of been their super hydro st type 3 wich is a zinc free aw oil and the utd oil is just a multiviscosity 10w30 oil now the additive packages are not complex like people think and each one passes a diffrent test so having a din51524 type 2 test passes all kubota fluid except for their skidsteers require type 3 so the super utd can be replaced by napa tractor trans or any tractor trans meeting j20c test and the premium hd46 from kubota can be replaced with any din type 3 fluid this is also stated in all their equipment manuals in the back but this guy just needs napa tractor trans oil
@@YourDadVR There is a decent chance you are leaking around seals like the rear axles and pto shaft seals. Those leaks have a way of leaking right down the side of the case without being easily seen then dripping off the bottom of the pan.
Right, the UDT2 additive package is far worse than even the generic store brands. I sent 9 different brands of tractor hydraulic fluid to Blackstone for lab testing and UDT2 had the lowest count of additives. Check it out, the video is on my channel.
A Ritter bit will do sent me and enjoyed hearing the video with a cheaper alternative. Also, congrats on making it over 1K subscribers.
Thank you for watching and joining us! It means a lot! Hope you enjoy the channel.
Last time I bought hydro oil for my M6060 I got it from a Kubota and New Holland dealer and I bought the New Holland brand for $80 for 5 gal per the dealer recommendation, they said it was basically the same and met all Kubota standards, wouldn’t void warranty etc. the Kubota oil if I remember correctly was 115 or 120.
This is oil specifically formulated for Kubota according to everything I’ve researched. So I’m hoping it does well. Thanks for the information and for watching! Have a great weekend!
if an alternate says suitable or compatible and not approved, it isnt, there was a suit over ATF and the company said we only claimed it was suitable not that its the approved alternate. thus not responsible if the unit wears out as a result
I talked with my dealers parts and service manager. WHen they get a warranty in on an HST or gear shift, Kubota requests an oil sample to make sure it is using the correct fluid. Many a claim has been denied from using the generic 303 fluid, but he did say that Mystic makes a fluid that is compatible. The Mystic JT5 is a direct compatible to Kubota UDT, not UDT2 because that is synthetic. Kubota prefers you use UDT2 at all times, UDT in a pinch. So IOW, if you use UDT or JT5, change it more often. Stens 770-734 Stens Shield Hydraulic Oil claims to be UDT2 compatible.
This stuff has went up so I just use Kubota oil now. Thanks for your info!
the last udt2 I bought was $140 for 5 gal . I had my tractor serviced at 500 hours still under warranty. My dealer charged me $998. for 500 hour service. It says on the receipt they used63.3 quarts of bulk Delo 1000 and $100/hr labor. Price for Delo 1000 was $6.69 quarts. I thought they would use udt2 like it said in the manual to use.
That is very strange for a dealership to do. I’ll have to look up the Delo 1000.
Hi bro, can you tell me the colour of the Kubota udt? Cause mine in the gearbox is tending to white.. is normal or there is water inside? Thanks a lot!
The UDT fluid is basically clear, you can barely see it on the dipstick usually. If it’s white or milky looking you definitely have water in the oil.
@@khtractors thanx friend, very useful information, I'll change soon.
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Thanks for the info. Haven't had to buy the Kubota Oil yet and certainly don't want to at that price.
I was shocked the first time I bought some. Glad to have found this! Thanks for watching!
I hope this goes well for you. I messed up a shuttle shift using the wrong oil every since that I wont buy anything but Kubota. they say its the additives that kubota uses that makes the difference. these secret recipes drive me nuts. hope you get to the thousand and more. I will try to give you some help.
Yeah have been nervous about using something besides Kubota oil, but I feel this is formulated as close to OEM UDT as I’ve found. Any help is appreciated! Thank you!
These "secret recipes" really aren't all that secret. There's only so many additives available to put in these oils. You definitely can put in the wrong type and mess something up. But just like parts, Kubota wants you to buy their parts from their dealers. Dealers make more money on parts than the actual sale of the equipment.
@@arrowjmfarms very true. its all in how much money you have to risk using the wrong fluid mixture that shuttle shift was a 50 plus hp tractor and that was a costly mistake. I'll stick with the Kubota brand in that pretty bucket with that nice logo. lol then hope for the best. lol
@@daveknowshow Hard to go wrong buying what they recommend. I do too.
How often do you change your transmission fluid in your M6060? Manual says 500 hours for filters and 1000 for fluid I think. That seems to long to go to me. You mentioned the warranty aspect and that was recommended to me to use kubota fluids under warranty just in case. I like having a warranty but im also looking forward to it being over. Very good video.
I do use Kubota filters, they are worth the money compared to other brands. Messicks did a comparison video one time on filters. I’m changing fluid at 700 hours. This will make the 2nd time changing it. I change my hydraulic filters yearly. That averages out to 280 hrs on them. Where I use my remotes a lot it’s easy to get contamination. Thanks!
That Kubota UDT is very expensive I tried to get Permatram 821XL from my dealer for my newer M-F 1526 & I was told they could not ship it & ask me if there was a Kubota dealer near by & said I could use that, they are about 15 miles from my house , I called & got sticker shock! I ended up driving to another M-f dealer about 60 miles away , closer than where I bought my tractor .The Permatram 821XL is a semi synthetic , not a full & was only about 25 $ cheaper for 6 gallons & at the same time I had to service the M-F 50 which takes 8 gallons had to order it from NAPA and they only sell it in 5 gallons pales, ouch again it cost me about the same as the 6 gallons of Permatram 821 XL the M-F 50 requires a mineral gear oil. Long story short You got a good price on the oil . I'll have to check them out to see if they sell other types oil ,not that I need any anytime soon thanks for the info. & tip as well as the video.
Thank you for sharing this information as well!
Any problems after trying the Stens synthetic hydraulic fluid? I am with you….$115 is quite expensive…I am looking for an alternative fluid for my Kubota SVL 75 skid steer
I think this stuff is a lot more now. No problems with it though. Thanks for watching
Ben thank you my bx will be off warranty in a year been looking but as you said water till warranty is off
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It’s working well so far for me! Thanks
I might try it in my 2008 RTV 500. The price doesn't bug me, but the dealerships in Oregon do...haha
It had went up in price a lot the last time I checked. Thanks for watching
25July 22, the 770-736 oil on ebay is $153.00/5gal
@@domgiampietro6005 that’s getting expensive
💥 The which oil to use question. This should bring some interesting comments. I think I got my UDT2 for $99.
*Keep on tractoring!*
We shall see! I spend a fortune in oil each year so saving a few 💵 where I can helps. But I don’t want to sacrifice quality either. Thanks for watching!
I have a question what motor does Kubota have in them are they like a Cummins motor
@@TerryH-yu6ew they are built by Kubota.
@@khtractors oh okay I was always wondering
The Kubota isn’t a full synthetic either, full synthetic is hard to find ever since the mobile/castrol lawsuit that ended up allowing highly refined group 3 base Dino oil to be considered full synthetic. Before this happened if it said full synthetic it was 90 percent or even a higher percent group 4 and 5 base oil. A lot of times even then it was necessary to add in some group 3 to be able to blend in the additive package being pure group 4 and 5 base does not blend well with certain additives.
In other words the full synthetics today are not the full synthetics of before the lawsuit. With that said, oil has came a long way and still test better overall. I do notice that it doesn’t last the mileage that a group 4 and 5 does.
If you sent off a virgin sample of both oils to Blackstone I’d bet the stuff you found has a better additive package.
Have you compared both data sheets to see if they are actually close to being the same?
I just emailed the company to see if they have a comparison spec sheet I might could share in a video. I can’t find an exact breakdown of all the properties of the Stens Shield oil. Go look at there website and read about it if your interested. I’ll do my best to get you an answer if I hear back. Thanks
@@khtractors Yeah I went to their website and read everything. I would also like to find a very good equivalent to UTD2. Mystic makes a semi-synthetic thats equivalent to the older super udt like older m5040 calls for but it’s got 3400 hours with nothing but travelers premium in it and the hydraulics are still strong, clutches and everything good but I’m thinking about going back to at least a semi-synthetic.
@@thechestnutking736 I looked up this oil just now and the price has increased a good bit since I made the video. I wonder if the Kubota oil has went up a lot too.
@@khtractors Kubota oil is anywhere from $105 to $120. Just priced the mystic and it’s as high as the Kubota but found an oil on Amazon that exceeds Kubota Super UTD2 for $77 and 5 gal bucket. Has the Data sheet and everything. Think I’ll try it. duragardoil.com/durunihyd.php
@@thechestnutking736 update
Any feedback on the oil after 1 year of usage? Also, do you have that link or part number? I need to order me some for the L3200.
It’s been doing fine. Last time I checked though the price was nearly the same as Kubota. So if that’s the case I’ll just get Kubota oil next time. I found this on eBay at the time. Thanks for watching!
@@khtractors Jan. 2023… just bought 3 gallons of SUDT2 from local Kubota dealer in Corpus Christ… @$34 a gallon trans filter $55 … not happy
@@johnburk8344 this Stens oil has went a lot as well.
Did you like the fluid. Are you still using it
It’s still in the tractor. I haven’t had any issues. But I do believe the price of this oil has went up since making the video. Thanks for watching.
Thanks @@khtractors yes it’s doubled in price.
The Kubota 5 gallon bucket is going for $113 and the Stens Shield is going for $100 bucket shipped as of July 2021
Yes I’ve noticed the STENS shield went up a lot now. I’d just get Kubota for no more difference then that. Thanks for watching and sharing the info.
@@khtractors I agree, with the Texas Ag Exemption (no sales tax) a $13 difference is negligible.
I called Zimmerer Kubota in Fort Worth and the Super UDT2 is going for $98.52/5 gallons and the Kubota CJ-4 15w40 engine oil is $17.35/gallon. I never thought I'd be saying this, but I'm going to buy from the dealership.
@@matthewdavis3884 yes sounds like the thing to do for sure!
The m5111 kubota uses 75 litres of oil in the backend almost £300 for oil
It’s expensive to change the hydraulic oil in them! Thanks for watching!
Has anyone ever tried Travelers universal hydraulic oil from tractor supply?
I have run that in my L3130HST for 200hrs, because I didn't know any better. It's worked fine for me. I'm just now looking into what all the fuss is about, lol.
Kubota UDT2 is not a full synthetic, it's semi-synthetic. I lab tested 9 brands and posted that video on my channel. There are definitely good alternatives out there.
Thanks for the info!
After the warranty wears out, I would consider using a generic comparable oil, after all hydraulic are
Not that much different
This stuff has went way up in price now! Thanks for watching
This video is three years old and now in June of 2023, Stens is $171.40 on ebay... no longer less expensive the UDT.
Yep, a lot changes in three years plus the COVID crap didn’t help at all on prices.
How much 1 pail hydraulic oil?
Last time I check the Stens Sheild was as much of more then Kubota. At this time it was like $76 vs $115.
stens is $150 now on amazon
Yeah that’s what I’ve heard.
Kubota Super UDT2 is now selling for over $210 for a 5 gallon bucket or over $40 per gallon as of Feb 28, 2024
Holly cow, I hadn’t priced any recently that’s getting to more then a feller can afford. Thanks for watching
I had to rebuild my trans ... synchronizers failed. I ended up replacing them along with all the bearings.. Oil and filters are cheap compared to iron and steel parts.
I hope that as crude oil prices around the world are normal again oil at the parts stores oil would cost less. Sounds like I had wishful thinking. @khtractors
I bought a 3301 new and it howled and had problems from day 1. It wasn't broke so warranty wouldn't do anything. The backhoe finally wouldn't work (after warranty expired) and I worked on it all winter. I finally did my own testing and the viscosity was to thick compared to UDT. That's the problem with other "Kubota compatible oils" is the viscosity difference. Not all this additive super lubricating sales baloney. The valve assy on the backhoe has some orifices that are less than 0.020" (some metric dia?) and it won't flow thicker fluids. I suspect the same on trans lube areas. On my first oil filter change the filter was collapsed inside also. All I can figure is that the factory left in preservative oils in the hydraulic rams or something that caused the thicker oil.
That will be the only and last Kubota I get. I stick with CAT. They use standard universal 10W hyd fluids. None of this "special" garbage and microscopic orifices that a Kubota has. A little more engineering and they could make these Kubota's universal instead of requiring special fluids. An "all synthetic" may have a low enough viscosity that it will work right, I don't know. Be aware that there are some very small orifices that have to flow the oil in a Kubota.
Yes it’s silly for each brand to do something to try and make you buy their oil. My friend has ran regular universal hydro oil in his M6800 and it has 4,000 hrs now so I’m not too concerned. This oil says it’s specifically formulated to meet or exceed Kubota UDT2 standards. Thanks for sharing your experiences.
Your L3301 with a hydrostatic drive is a problem after 500hrs (almost a "throw-away-tranmission"). Kubota has been leaning on their good reputation to sell massive amounts of 60 hp & less tractors to satisfy entry level buyers that only put less than a hundred hours a year ,with hydrostatic tranys. They "really " recommend every 200hrs total fluid & filter changes ---for warranty reasons. After the first 50 hours, and 325.oo$ (hydro fluid service) of pain & suffering & every 200hrs there after this "novelty" wears off. The expense is usually transmutted to cheaper filters & fluids or neglected service intervals causing catastrophic failures that kubota "wipes their hands clean" of the warranty. These & all other brands are VERY expensive (hydro-drives) to operate & maintain on an hourly aspect. Thanks for the great vidio Sir and happy safe Tractoring.
Amazon has that Kubota synthetic oil for $40.00 per gallon!
That’s $200 for a bucket. Not a good deal. I think it’s around $150 at most dealerships right now.
Hey Ben just wondering if you noticed any difference switching to the other oil in either Kubota tractor. Thanks Paul
No it seems to be working fine! Haven’t used it in the BX yet, just the M6060. Thanks
Let me share a little tidbit of info..... I work for a major municipality. Do you think we buy the brand name oil for every piece of equipment we own? NO.... we get bulk Hydraulic oil and it goes in everything from the tiny snow plowing tractors to the D8 dozers running the dump. Never seen a failure I thought was related to oil brand.
I think some of you get way too caught up in brands instead of change interval. Same guys who act all high and mighty about oil brands are the same guys who buy into the 10k oil change intervals..... just saying.
I appreciate you sharing the info and I tend lean more towards your way of thinking.
Stens is now $123 to $160 per 5 gallon container
Last I checked it had went up a lot since this video. Thanks for sharing!
You’re welcome. Have any videos on the 800 hour engine valve adjustment?
@@TheMonkdad no, I’m at 2,000 hours without adjusting them. My buddy has a M6800 with 5,000 hours and no adjustment. Not saying that’s a step to skip though.
Is that the same oil for the L 185?
I’m not sure on that model tractor, this one matches the UDT2 fluid.
I’d use stens fluid in an older tractor but not gonna risk it on my $30k new kubota …..not worth the little bit of savings imo..
Typically I don’t use that much oil other than maintaining hydraulic level with a little loss when unhooking couplers and fluid changes at proper intervals…
I’ve heard too many horror stories to risk it….got too much invested to try and save a buck.
$119.10 for 5 gallons of Super UDT2 oil from Messicks as of June 30, 2022
Yeah last I checked the Stens shields wasn’t any cheaper. It had went up a lot. Thanks for watching
Great
Last I checked this stuff had went up in price to where it wasn’t worth buying over the Kubota oil. Thanks for watching
Went to kubota yesterday 9/11/23 and a 5 gallon bucket was $158 +tax
Thanks for the info!
Put what you want in your Kubota. But I will stay with the UDT2 in my tractor. The price is a lot cheaper than hydro repairs.
Nobody is twisting your arm I don’t reckon. I just used it this one time and then its price sky rocketed like everything else.
You means to tell me the new m7060 I bought uses 3 five gallon buckets???? When I do the oil change.
It does for hydraulic oil. It says to change at the first 50 hrs. I quickly changed the filters and just added what oil I lost on that service. Then changed the oil on the next interval.
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I haven’t got into the owners manual yet as soon as I got it I went to work with it. Might dig into it tomorrow. First 50 hours. OMG!!!!350$ just for the oil.
@@stevem2266 it’s not cheap at all. Be sure to change those hydraulic filters at 50hrs. They have magnets which pulls the metal shavings out from manufacturing, mine had a good bit of big stuff.
@@khtractors really no kidding. Wow.
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Is your tractor an 8 spd or the 12?
My b2150 can out before udt2 was born
😂😂 Thanks for watching
Have you put it in your BX yet and if you have what are the results everything running good?
No I haven’t used it in the BX. Last time I checked the prices had doubled on this product since I made the video so I’ll probably just use Kubota oil next time. Appreciate you watching!
Now the seller is getting over 170 for it should have bought more and saved them better investment than Gold
Yes I’ve regretted not buying more back then! Thanks for watching
Just checked Amazon stein shield was higher than kubots udt 2
Yes it’s went sky high.
Just paid £91 for 20 litres of kubota udt oil
145.00 wv price just called
I bought the Kubota fluid last year, price had only went $5 a bucket then. Thanks for watching
160 for the kubota name brand at my dealer 😮
It’s all high now.
Ouch...$150+tax today!
Yeah I know! Pricey stuff now!
It appears that Valvoline makes the Kubota Super UDT2 transmission oil, but I'm having a hard time finding which Valvoline oil is the rebranded Kubota oil. See Kubota's informational page: www.kubota.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/Kubota_Super_UDT2_Trans-SDS-1.pdf
That’s interesting to know! I’ll have to look into that more! Thanks
That’s because Kubota has a marketing agreement with Ashland Oil which stipulates that Ashland’s Valvoline brand will not offer their branded version of the product.
Hello There
I need to Buy Kubota UDT oil , please share me the concer person contact details , if you have
This new oil I mentioned is now higher priced then the Kubota oil.