Tuned 911 Turbo vs Plaid 1/4Mile! 8-Sec Nitrous Fox! 1320 Challenger! Tire Pressure? 4 Races in 4K!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 16 มิ.ย. 2024
- May 18th, 2024, TnT at Bradenton Motorsports Park (1/4 mile)
The Plaid is weight-reduced and running on the stock Pirelli P Zeros on 19” wheels. (Backseats and most rear material removed. Both front seats are still IN PLACE, along with all door panels, airbags, mirrors, 20 stereo speakers and subwoofer remain intact.) These ~170 pounds make a difference of 0.11 seconds, as proven over 850+ timeslips (9.26 best went down to 9.15).
VIDEO INDEX:
0:00 Intro
0:22 Bradenton Motorsports Park May 18th 2024 (1/4 mile)
0:32 Plaid vs Greg’s 1320 Challenger
2:17 Timeslip #1 Review
2:50 Tuned Porsche 911 Turbo
3:26 Plaid vs Tuned Porsche 911 Turbo
4:26 Timeslip #2 Review
5:14 Consistency and Track Conditions
5:52 ’91 Foxbody 434ci with 300HP Nitrous
6:52 Round 1, Plaid vs 434ci Fox (Motor Only)
8:57 Timeslip #3 Review
9:57 Foxbody driver, Scott
11:47 Setup for Round 2
12:49 Round 1, Plaid vs 434ci Fox (Motor Only)
15:20 Timeslip #4 Review
17:10 More with Fox driver, Scott
19:17 Closing Comments
20:15 Tire Pressure in Original Pirellis (3 years old, ~900 runs!)
Run#: ET, MPH, 60-ft, Reaction (Tree), Mode, Result, State of Charge
1. 9.215, 151.36, 1.??, (Gave hit of 1.178), Launch Mode*, W vs 1320 Challenger, 91%
2. 9.268, 149.48, 1.46, 0.038, Launch Mode*, W vs Tuned Porch 911 Turbo, 88%
3. 9.244, 149.86, 1.??, 0.19 (.4 Pro Tree), Launch Mode, W vs 434ci Fox, 85%
4. 9.399, 148.53, 1.59, 0.071 (.4 Pro Tree), Launch Mode, L vs Fox on NITROUS, 81%
*= Peak Performance NOT Ready
Thanks to Scott (434ci Nitrous Foxbody), Greg (1320 Challenger) and all other drivers for these fun races!
Special Thanks to Greg Mannarino (COPO Camaro @GregoryMannarino) for sharing trackside and grandstand footage!
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Special Thanks to Gregory Mannarino for sharing trackside and grandstand footage!
Do you have the Track Pack on your Plaid? Tesla offers that, unlocking the 165 mph limit to the peak of 203.8 mph. I have seen a video of a Tesla S Plaid on Autobahn, and it’s bonkers. Thanks for the show!
@@BookProX Track Pack is a must for road course racing, but no advantage for drag racing. There is no dragstrip over 1/4 mile long in this state or any surrounding states. And the brakes are so large that these quicker 19” wheels won’t fit. Larger wheels suck for drag racing. Especially because the tire sidewalls are smaller so that the overall diameter remains 28.0”. That’s why the 21” OEMs are always one or two car lengths slower…
@@TeslaPlaidChannel I didn't know you couldn't mount the 19-inch wheels on the TP upgrade. Thanks for the clarification.
Fun video. Scott's Fox Body on spray was a rocket. Congrats on the .017 RT.
👍Thanks BB. It’s was a .071 actually, which wouldn’t be good on a Sportsman, but the Pro Tree is a different animal altogether because it can’t be anticipated 😃
Those plaid’s are just unbelievable. You’re out there basically every weekend since you brought it. It just shows the superior reliability an electric car has over ice cars. I’m blown away. Absolutely love them, but unfortunately I’ll never get one. They are not selling them in our country Australia. Just to top off all the other disadvantages our country has
👍 Sorry to hear of your country’s limitations. We’ve heard many disappointing things from there in the last ~4 years or so 😕
You can see exactly when Scott hit the juice. Awesome.
that was pretty cool to see, that thing straight up took off lol.
It was good to see Greg still out racing while his amazing COPO Camaro gets repaired. It was great that Scott was game to run just on motor, and then again on spray. You can really tell how dialed in the Mustang is to run nitrous! Even though he was only spraying half track. Even getting the jump on him, he just walked away, and on the top end you were able to catch up slightly, but he was too far ahead. Still, it made for a fun race!
That Fox zooms! - good race
Nice races! You acted surprised about the worse ET and MPH on that last timeslip but I know you know better than I do that when you deep stage, literally every number beyond RT will be worse because you don't get that little "cheat" of a rolling start that you get with shallow staging.
👍Exactly right. As soon as I left the track, I regretted not explaining it on camera. I should have done that for viewers…
Love that Porsche!!!!! That’s a gentleman’s car!!!!
That notch was rolling!!!
Andrew, thank you for the post. As always so much fun to watch. Was great to see the difference in the Fox Body runs with and without nitrous. Looking forward to your next races.
👍 Good to hear! Thanks for watching with us Charles 😃
Going deep slows you down. Less roll out before the clock starts. Great runs
👍 Exactly right. Although we've talked about it many times over the years (almost every other time I've staged deep), I didn't mention it here as I should havee 😃
Your math skills are quite impressive as you go through the time slip Andrew. I imagine Mathematics was one of your favorite courses back in the school days.
👍 On the way to my Computer Science degree, there were many math-related courses, plus others like Physics and Chemistry where math is a key part of it. Although not retired yet, my favorite place to use math is the Dragstrip! 😃
Hopefully, you will take those tires to 1000 passes,
When you do, send a copy of your video to Tesla.
I am sure they will love it..
NOS makes a bloody difference lol
Talking about tires got me thinking about general maintenance of the racing Plaid. 1 brake job and gutting some of the interior. What else have you had to do with the car to keep it racing for the 3 years? ICE cars have all kinds of repairs and tires (way more tires). I am thinking you have more free time.
👍Indeed! More free time (not wrenching on weekend anymore like with my previous foxbody and 3 Camaros), but now all that time is spent editing these race videos! About 6-7 hours including all the bits (thumbnail, index, full description with timeslips, upload, etc)
@@TeslaPlaidChannel Okay, you got me! I do not do the "Content Creator" and forgot. Still not worrying about getting the car ready for the next race. You are doing a great job of it.
Many, many electrons were harmed in the making of these videos.
@@jamesengland7461haha. The electrons are just fine 😅
Been watching for a long time. But it would be neat to see some light wheels with some new tire options and pressures tested.
We've been talking to a custom wheel manufacturer about 18" Wheels, which would open up a whole new set of tire options, including some Mickey Thompsons...
On round two I think that Fox was on his way to Gapplebee’s “TO GO”!!! 😂
Sure was! 👍
I didn’t realize nitrous made that much of a difference. Wow
👍 His first pass (without the Nitrous) would have been a somewhat better ET (a high 9) if he hadn’t slipped his tires at launch. But yes, still over a full second difference as it’s a good sized 300HP shot. (Whereas many guys will add around 125-175HP of NOS to a street car, the Fox’s 434ci engine was built for his 300HP shot)
@@TeslaPlaidChannel thanks for then explanation
Power to weight
@@speedracerjeff 👍Yes! Scott told me his Fox is only 2700 pounds!
@@TeslaPlaidChannel wow that thing really is light. Gotta love those little Notchbacks.
Imagine if the nitrous didn't cut out half track, or Todd didn't hit his rev limiter where he had to lift/pedal at the end.. but it all ended well
👍 For sure! It had more to give, and so dang quick at nearly 2000 pounds lighter than the Plaid
Thoughts on the new refreshed m3p being a 10.9-11.0 car for just 55k?
Kinda makes me think it's time tesla unleashes either the plaid+or the darn gen2 roadster. 👍🏻😁
Although the new M3P is a good deal, and about as fast as many exotics, a used Plaid is just a few dollars more, and 15 car lengths faster in the 1/4 mile 👍
@@TeslaPlaidChannel very true. Still isn't that just a nuts deal man for a new mid size American made 4dr family sedan?
47k after the tax credit, active suspension, improved aero, tires, brakes, sports seats etc. Gets over 110mpge=crazy value per dollar. 😎
@@4literv6 Agree! 👍
@@4literv6 Yeah the used Plaid is now a killer deal for hypercar performance at under $70K. $47K (net) for the new M3P has got to hurt sales of the Model S Long Range though, as the M3P will likely run as quickly as the Model S LR, but cost $26K less after the federal subsidy (for those who qualify). And the new M3P will probably affect resale prices for used P85D, and P90D models as well.
We don’t even get the plaid in our country. And I’ve been waiting for Tesla to bring a plaid model 3. It’s just not fast enough with the update. If they make the car do a 9.9 I’ll put my order straight in.
Just curious on your 89 mustang with nos. I had a 90 with just bolt ons 5 speed mustang back in the 90's and I swear the car would bog with slicks on the street. It was a great car for street racing cause it didn't over power the road like most cars I raced. Mine only ran 13 at 101 at track but was 1.68 60ft. Great 1/8th mile car but 302 didn't make anymore power over 5200. Sorry for rambling on, was just curious about your 89 and how it ran. Thanks for sharing your videos 👍
Also running that track a lot have you ever met Cleetus by chance? His shop is right beside that track. We always run Orlando when we travel down every year.
👍 Funny you should ask about that “bog”. It usually didn’t, and I was careful to give it plenty of RPM when launching with the M&H Racemasters that I ran on 15x10” wheels. But once it bogged heavily as I was launching on Nitrous, and BOOM! 💥
I heard pieces flying around under the hood.
The backfire of Nitrous+Fuel took out everything outside the throttle body: The air box and all ducting. Thankfully no metal damage but it was a lesson learned! 🥺
Too many times to count but he won’t let anyone run in the lane next to him. “We run solo” he always says (unless it’s a race he setup for his channel)
@TeslaPlaidChannel I ran the same tires and wheels. Never had nitrous so it would bog at 4500 side stepping clutch and hooked. I was beating 12.0 cars cause they couldn't hook up. That car was perfect back in the day, I frame connectors and 4.10 gears. Just bolt ons and surprised how many people I beat on the street. Granted it was a blacktop road but inside 1993 the car worked awesome.
@TeslaPlaidChannel oh I can imagine. He's had everything from day one. You can watch and see he tears up everything his guys build. Whatever baby boi wants baby boi gets =money talks
I don't think a 300 hit of nitrous will help your Tesla :)
👍But it might help the driver? 🤪
(Note for noobs: They add something nasty to automotive NOS to prevent people from abusing it)
I've always wondered if since the battery likes to be pretty hot in teslas for max perf, but the drive unit's like to be run colder.
Maybe some kind of sprayer, in line chiller or better diff coolers could give them another tenth or 2 in certain circumstances at the track? 🤔
@@4literv6I believe that’s part of what the Tesla Octovalve is for
Glad to see your Tesla is hanging in there. Here where I live , another Tesla caught fire going down the road here in Denver. Firemen spent almost 40,000 gallons of water trying to cool it down as you can not put out these electrical fire. All that poison in the water contaminated the whole area. Terrible! At any rate. Glad to see your Tesla is humming along. Make sure you do not park it inside or next to anything.
👍 We've seen dozens of car fires at the dragstrip, including that orange truck shown in this very video. Seen many car fires on the highway, all of them gas vehicles. Never seen an EV fire. The numbers don't lie, even if the same amount of EVs were on the road, there are still 27 times more fires with gas and diesels than EVs. 27 times. But Detroit didn't want people to know this, and they were able to spread FUD unchecked for years since Tesla doesn't spend any money on advertising. (Every news outlet was in Detroit's pocket.) Funny thing though when every Chevy Bolt ever made was recalled two years ago. Those ones really were catching on fire. And yet no one heard about it. Ask any random person about "EV fires" and they will say some baloney about Teslas. None were ever recalled for that. Some people sabotaged Teslas for views or to short the stock though.
Yet the truth here: "In September 2021, GM recalled every single Bolt sold for model years 2017-22...impacting every Bolt, over 141,000 of them, on the road." GM warned not to park those lemons anywhere near homes, and for good reason. Typical GM quality. 😃
Meanwhile we've owned six Teslas over the last 8 years, and loved every one. No maintenance or repair expense outside of tires, wiper blades, and one set of brake pads. We charge them in the garage every night without concern. (Safer than a highly flammable liquid like gasoline, and no one ever died by running their EV in a closed garage.)
after watching electric motor propulsion "eat the lunch" of detroit's best tire burning, noise making piles of $hit, it almost makes me cry, and laugh at he desperate attempt at internal crapbustion to keep up with the simplicity, speed, low maintenance and futuristic advancements battery powered cars will bring to the roads and tracks. Will I miss the obnoxious Noise, not at 3 am.
It's like smokers as a kid I had to spend time around them, by my late teens I didn't spend time around anyone who smokes.
As an adult I wouldn't date or spend anytime voluntarily near anyone who smokes.
Ice is headed much the same way ala Irobot "this runs on gasoline and gasoline explodes" evs have also proven to stabilise the grid and they provide even better domestic energy security. $1 spent on ev charging see over .70c stay in our economy vs $1 spent on ice fueling sees over
.60c go outside the U.S. and even goes directly into the coffers of countries which hate us!👍🏻😀
Our neighbors don’t miss our old Camaros either 👍
Best of both worlds. I know many Tesla owners that still own loud obnoxious Pro Street big tire cars, even if it’s just to show off at the local Cars & Coffee every Saturday morning… lol
Maybe when technology gets better sure. Right now, teslas are just average.
Spoken like a fellow Tesla owner bragging is that a microwave cooks faster than a oven😂 I prefer to hear my horsepower going down the track over a golf cart noise😂😂