Awesome man you won't regret it! One thing to watch is the last step where I seal the flock. Don't use iso and just spray small amounts of matte sealant in layers. Too much and the added weight makes the clumps fall off. Best of luck!
Hiya, the MDF was 4.75mm thick. I did not seal it. The pieces are fairly small so that while there is some warping it is not significant enough to be a problem.
Definitely wait before you try and put isopropyl alcohol on your trees. I sprayed my trees with that before the sealant and it just dissolved the original glue. Had to watch my trees fall apart lol
@@dicedrinksanddadjokes not on the trees at least I discovered. Either way this video definitely gave me the insight I needed to get crafting! So thank you for that. Just a couple lessons being learned that I think you only get from hands on approach.
It’s called hob-e-tac from woodland scenics. I got it from a local store called Kapiti Hobbies. Just google it. I’m sure there’ll be a supplier in Aus 😊
@@ephremhommeril3907 yeah that'll probably work. Just spray it on in multiple light layers and allow each layer to dry before moving on to the next. Otherwise the weight can cause the foliage to fall off. Good luck!
Hey Adam, saw your video post from Facebook in the LOTR group. The video is very well made mate. awesome job. I do have to say that I had a TERRIBLE time making these trees in exactly the same method as you did here, with the same exact products from WS. I found that the more coats of Matt Scenic Sealant I applied, the more of the foliage clumps started falling off. Leaving me with allmost empty trees. Litteraly 40% of the foliage fell off somewhere in the process. And even after like 4 coats, still clumps were falling off at a huge rate after use in games. It just was not sturdy enough for me. Did you encounter any of these problems?
Hey Tim, that really sucks that it hasn't worked well for you. I did have some issues with clumps falling off but generally found that they stuck back on easily enough because the hob-e-tac stays tacky. With some of the looser ones I used a little contact adhesive to really jam them in place. What sealant did you use out of interest?
@@dicedrinksanddadjokes I used the Geek Gaming Scenics one. Before I used it I sprayed the clumps with ISO too. They just got too heavy and the glue did not hold them. Nowadays I just fill a tub with foliage, absolutely drown it in ISO and PVA. Let it harden. And then tear off bits and superglue them to the armatures. Makes a world of difference. Much sturdier trees
In New Zealand the armatures are about $33 a pack and I used three. The clump foliage would have cost me about $50 all up. So including all the base materials, glue, flock, mdf etc, it cost me approximately $200.
@@dicedrinksanddadjokes Thanks. I tried it this evening, and could not get my spray bottle to make a mist of any kind. Only a brutal stream. Do you have a recommended spray bottle?
@BarbarosaAlexander not really. I just got some cheap ones because then tend to clog up after a while. Have you tried twisting the nozzle? You can usually adjust the spray that way. Also make sure you clean the nozzle thoroughly after every use!
@@dicedrinksanddadjokes yeah. The test shots sprayed a mist, but as soon as I shot at the piece, blamo! Ropey jets. No matter how I set the nozzle. Brand new sprayer. Crap luck, I guess.
Adam. I’ve draw inspiration from your video and how good your trees look and I took the plunge to make some myself. I tried various pva glues and they were rubbish. So I switched to liquid nails which worked well to stick foliage. However when I soak my foliage in mat sealant all the foliage falls off. Could this be the glue or am I overdoing the sealant?
I’ve had the same issue to be honest. Though Hob-E-TAC is good because it stays tacky forever. Because the branches stay sticky I can just stick clumps back on when they fall off. With the sealant, I think it’s better to do multiple light sprays to avoid clumps getting too heavy which I think leads to them falling off. Maybe I need to do a follow up video 😬. Let me know how you go!
Save some time, don't bother drawing the shapes. Just start by cutting off a corner and then cut out a kidney shape. Cut from there. Have a mini and a few model trees around to keep the scale in your head. Board looks great!
All up I think it cost approximately $200 NZ. That’s not too bad considering a box of minis with terrain can cost much more. And this made more than enough for a forest table 😊
You make this look really achievable for a beginner like me. I’m making a forest board now!
Awesome man you won't regret it! One thing to watch is the last step where I seal the flock. Don't use iso and just spray small amounts of matte sealant in layers. Too much and the added weight makes the clumps fall off. Best of luck!
Thanks for the video! I'll try it with 5mm XPS boards instead of MDF.
Always nice to see the kidos working on projects in the background in the company of their dad working on art projects. Lol so awesome.
Thanks buddy! Families that craft together stay together haha
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Amazing job with the terrain!
Thanks so much! 😊
Whoop whoop! Nice vid Ad. That forest is so detailed!
4:03 Man may look like a soyjack but is living the dream
No idea what a soyjack is but thanks I guess? 😅
Very inspiring video!
Did you use the 5" to 7" deciduous armatures and 4" to 6" pine armatures or other sizes?
Thanks! I used 5" to 7" deciduous
Great work. Making trees I found to be crazy messy but good fun hehe. Keep up the awesome work man
Thank you very much! 😊
Nice work! That kind of forest is exactly what I'm working towards for some battle companies games!
Thanks buddy! Yeah battle companies was my motivation too. Will be producing some battle reports soon 😊
4:12 Supportive wives are the best.
Thanks for the vid, very informative. Need to make some of these.
Yeah man absolutely 💯 😊
This is awesome thanks for share 👌
Thanks buddy! 🤩
Pro Tip: Save some plaster rock pieces and use them to press the rock texture into the wet sculpt-a-mold.
Hey I like this idea! Thanks
What is the actual board in the final shot? Just a flocked mat kind of thing?
Its a generic grassy modular board I made years ago.
I want to see some more fun vids with your models that was cool and creative
Working on it, more to come!
It looks pretty cool and sweet love it and I would probably add more big rocks.. ❤️😊
Thanks Melissa! Rocky outcrops and hills is my next project 😁
@@dicedrinksanddadjokes I really love it mate. ❤️😊
Wow! Quick, easy, and looks great! Thanks for the walk through.
Thanks for watching! Tell your friends 😂
Great quality for a first video! Keep them coming!
Thanks Allan! I will do my best. Goal is for a new video every week. Trouble is balancing my actual paid work!
Very nice. I need to do this.
Thanks, good luck!
Great vid bro. Cheers!
Thanks for watching mate! 😁
What thickness mdf board did you use for these? And did you have to seal the MDF to prevent it from absorbing the glue/paint and warping?
Hiya, the MDF was 4.75mm thick. I did not seal it. The pieces are fairly small so that while there is some warping it is not significant enough to be a problem.
Do you wait for the watered-down paints to dry before washing it all in black? Or apply directly afterwards?
Straight after. Plaster is super absorbent so soaks it all up.
@@dicedrinksanddadjokes Thank you!
@@AMDG89 no worries, good luck! 😁
Definitely wait before you try and put isopropyl alcohol on your trees. I sprayed my trees with that before the sealant and it just dissolved the original glue. Had to watch my trees fall apart lol
Oh no!!! Probably don't even need the iso to be honest 😬
@@dicedrinksanddadjokes not on the trees at least I discovered. Either way this video definitely gave me the insight I needed to get crafting! So thank you for that. Just a couple lessons being learned that I think you only get from hands on approach.
I'm in Australia. Where do I buy that glue you used to glue the foliage on the trees?
It’s called hob-e-tac from woodland scenics. I got it from a local store called Kapiti Hobbies. Just google it. I’m sure there’ll be a supplier in Aus 😊
@@dicedrinksanddadjokes Thankyou Heaps for that info.
Excellent work.
Also, whats your sound track? It reminds me of an old cabelas hunting game I used to play lol.
Lol! It's one of the free sounds on I movie! Acoustic Sunrise.
Honestly one of the most well made videos I've watched!
Thanks Guy!
The matt sealant did you make your own ? I find mine shiny if i use it
I make my own! I have a video about it actually 😉
@@dicedrinksanddadjokes will find that now
Wonderful terrain work! Currently doing something very similar here in the USA for my mid-18th century Seven Years War(gaming).
Go for it! Nothing makes an awesome cinematic war game like stunning terrain!
Hello brother, what do you use to seal it altogether ? I didnt get the brand of the spray ? Thanks look Amazing
Hey mate, I make it myself. Basically mod podge matte highly watered down. I have a short video showing how to make it! 😁
@@dicedrinksanddadjokes thanks ! Pva glue would work too?
@@ephremhommeril3907 yeah that'll probably work. Just spray it on in multiple light layers and allow each layer to dry before moving on to the next. Otherwise the weight can cause the foliage to fall off. Good luck!
7:55 - Get yourself a big box of disposable gloves for things like this. Worth every penny.
100%
awesome video!!! Very well done. Keep making more!!! About to embark on a battle companies campaign of my own. Shoutout Meta Games in Springfield MO!!
Thanks Kenny. I'm working on more vids, watch this space!
Brilliant video mate, more than happy to subscribe, great guide👏
Thanks so much, I appreciate it 😊
great vid!
Thanks!
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I meant Fantsy Frother
Loving your videos, covering a lot of things already done by others but in a easy to follow detailed method
Thanks Dion, I’m glad you’re enjoying them 😊
great videos bud
Glad you like them!
Hey Adam, saw your video post from Facebook in the LOTR group. The video is very well made mate. awesome job.
I do have to say that I had a TERRIBLE time making these trees in exactly the same method as you did here, with the same exact products from WS.
I found that the more coats of Matt Scenic Sealant I applied, the more of the foliage clumps started falling off. Leaving me with allmost empty trees. Litteraly 40% of the foliage fell off somewhere in the process.
And even after like 4 coats, still clumps were falling off at a huge rate after use in games. It just was not sturdy enough for me. Did you encounter any of these problems?
Hey Tim, that really sucks that it hasn't worked well for you. I did have some issues with clumps falling off but generally found that they stuck back on easily enough because the hob-e-tac stays tacky. With some of the looser ones I used a little contact adhesive to really jam them in place.
What sealant did you use out of interest?
@@dicedrinksanddadjokes I used the Geek Gaming Scenics one. Before I used it I sprayed the clumps with ISO too. They just got too heavy and the glue did not hold them.
Nowadays I just fill a tub with foliage, absolutely drown it in ISO and PVA. Let it harden. And then tear off bits and superglue them to the armatures. Makes a world of difference. Much sturdier trees
@@LowlandsWargaming-Tim That's a great tip! I use homemade sealant, I have a tutorial for that too on my channel :)
Just found the channel. Looking forward to looking through your content 👍🏻
Welcome to the family!
How much did this project cost I'm curious? Just the armatures and flocking would probably cost me about 200$ where I live (Canada) .
In New Zealand the armatures are about $33 a pack and I used three. The clump foliage would have cost me about $50 all up. So including all the base materials, glue, flock, mdf etc, it cost me approximately $200.
Where do you get the trees from there sick?
The armatures are Woodland Scenics. I got them from Kapiti Hobbies in New Zealand.
Any idea where in Australia
@@adds157 I don't know buddy google it 😆
Who is that really cool guy in the background?? I hope that he’s in one of your games!!
Maybe if he does the dishes 😂
Awsome man would be perfect for lotr might give this a bash.
Yeah man, do it!
@@dicedrinksanddadjokes Do you think I could use foam board rather than the wood base?
Definitely, you’ll just have to make sure everything is firmly secured and my need to check balance with foam being lighter than the trees.
@@dicedrinksanddadjokes Brill man cheers for the information!
Which mat did you use ?
It’s not a mat, it’s a DIY modular board 😁
@@dicedrinksanddadjokes I realized that shortly after. Great work !
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If you say so buddy
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Does the home made matte sealant leave white spots or stains?
Most of the time no. Depends on how heavy the application is and the humidity/temperature
@@dicedrinksanddadjokes Thanks.
I tried it this evening, and could not get my spray bottle to make a mist of any kind. Only a brutal stream. Do you have a recommended spray bottle?
@BarbarosaAlexander not really. I just got some cheap ones because then tend to clog up after a while. Have you tried twisting the nozzle? You can usually adjust the spray that way. Also make sure you clean the nozzle thoroughly after every use!
@@dicedrinksanddadjokes yeah. The test shots sprayed a mist, but as soon as I shot at the piece, blamo! Ropey jets. No matter how I set the nozzle. Brand new sprayer. Crap luck, I guess.
@BarbarosaAlexander yeah that’s a shame, I’m sorry it didn’t work for you
Panzer 4 to tree group five *rolls 1 for movement*
I got a space to do the c3afting, I got some materials, I also got colors, I even have a wife, but I do not have those jalapeno popers 🤔
Haha that’s an essential ingredient I’m afraid 😆
Adam. I’ve draw inspiration from your video and how good your trees look and I took the plunge to make some myself. I tried various pva glues and they were rubbish. So I switched to liquid nails which worked well to stick foliage. However when I soak my foliage in mat sealant all the foliage falls off. Could this be the glue or am I overdoing the sealant?
I’ve had the same issue to be honest. Though Hob-E-TAC is good because it stays tacky forever. Because the branches stay sticky I can just stick clumps back on when they fall off. With the sealant, I think it’s better to do multiple light sprays to avoid clumps getting too heavy which I think leads to them falling off. Maybe I need to do a follow up video 😬. Let me know how you go!
Great tutorial but can you share your wife's Jalapeno Poppers recipe??
Haha thanks buddy, that is a trade secret unfortunately that my wife keeps fiercely guarded 😆
Haven't seen one of those at games workshop 4:06
Blackmarket, and not cheap! So not too dissimilar to GW 🤣
Save some time, don't bother drawing the shapes. Just start by cutting off a corner and then cut out a kidney shape. Cut from there. Have a mini and a few model trees around to keep the scale in your head.
Board looks great!
Good tip!
Jungle/Rainforest scenery?
Am planning on making some in the near future 😊
@@dicedrinksanddadjokes Maybe swamp/marsh too?
@dubuyajay9964 haha so many things! I do want to make the dead marshes at some stage
On my Dioramas I used clippings from Christmas trees I bought from thrift stores . cheap and get great Forrest effect
Sounds great!
Hi
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This must have cost you a small fortune? The trees are $7 each here, and the grass and turf is also quite expensive
All up I worked out that the entire lot cost me $200. Totally worth it in my opinion to have a sweet forest board!
All up I think it cost approximately $200 NZ. That’s not too bad considering a box of minis with terrain can cost much more. And this made more than enough for a forest table 😊
You can use the branches from real trees as a basis, and crumbled sponges with bristles from brushes as a grass and leafs
Hand held cams sucks
First video mate! I’d like to think I’ve improved since then 😁
End result looks fantastic,...but,
"using predominately woodland scenics trees".
Sorry bro, that's WAY above my paygrade.
Fair enough dude! You do you 😊