Lenovo ThinkPad X1 Fold Review: More Is Less
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- Ever since I was six years old and watching Inspector Gadget, I’ve longed for a proper “computer book” - and the Lenovo X1 Fold gets closer to that dream than I ever thought possible. Its large folding display is the most rugged and crease-free I’ve ever used, and it works together with a cleverly designed wireless keyboard companion and beautiful leather shell to deliver a laptop experience like no other. Fully deployed, the Lenovo X1 Fold rests on its built-in kickstand to serve as a 13.3” laptop; or, fold the screen in half and slap on the magnetic keyboard for a more compact 7” netbook. Use it in easel mode as a stylus-equipped tablet; and when it’s time to pack it in for the day, it collapses into a footprint no bigger than a hardback novel.
It’s that versatile combination of form factors that gives a “computer book” like the X1 Fold so much potential for those of us who prefer our PCs portable. But leveraging that potential is the job of streamlined software … and the platform Lenovo apparently planned to use for the X1 Fold, Windows 10X, was delayed by Microsoft last year. As a result the X1 Fold ships with Windows 10 Home or Pro - and the apparently rushed implementation of that OS (plus a combination of driver issues, hardware failings and high price tag) ultimately makes this machine the first foldable I can’t recommend … even to those with deep pockets.
Get the details in MrMobile’s Lenovo X1 Fold review, and join me in crossing your fingers for an eventual Windows 10X release for this unique folding-screen PC.
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Sorry for the poor audio quality on the A-Roll (host) segments, folks! I accidentally left my gain too high on the lav mic I use, and couldn't rescue the quality in the edit. Will be fixed next time!
Hey man I didn't even notice great job doing your videos love them
Your videos are so amazing can’t wait for the next review ✌️
You could use the og galaxy buds as a mic and I would still watch
Using earphones made me nauseated....🤮🤮
Maybe you could leave another mic on the other side of the room catching reverb and noise and try to cancel it out in post.
Anyway, dude, you killed it in this review! The oustading intro, the narrative... I was eager to see your review on this device (as I usually am whenever a new foldable releases) and you certainly did not disappoint!
I'd love a second attempt at this type of machine. The idea is very neat.
With Windows 10x it would be great
Cant wait for an improved version of it
Imagine, a 17" 2-in-1 Tablet that Folds "out" to become a 22" portable ultra-wide monitor, that form-factor would be far more unique and appealing IMO.
With adjustable hinge angles for BOTH Horizontal and Vertical desktop use. Also, a bigger device would have more space for better hardware - speakers, battery, cooling design, etc etc. Indeed it would be far more expensive, but also more practical for people who will buy it.
@@MiladAhmed3 Yeah, Windows 10X would make that device really shines. The current Windows 10 for desktop isn't really designed for this. Too many clunkiness of current Windows 10.
@@mini9503 22 inch would be to much😅😅😅 and it would be heavy because of that big display
Listening to a disappointed Michael Fisher is genuinely sad 😭😭
so sad
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For me I'm disappointed because it uses windows
İf it used android and if Lenovo made its own Samsung Dex platform on android it would run great
I use my tab s7 Fe with Samsung Dex very good
My setup is
Phone=Galaxy S7 Edge(yeah the 2016 one) (with custom ROM)
Tablet= Galaxy tab S7 FE with touchpad keyboard cover. (This is the 2021 version)
Laptop= a 6 core i7 proccessor with GTX 1650 that I use only in the house while the galaxy tab S7 FE I take it wherever I go
My parents: Stoop Makin' So Much Damn Noise with That Keyboard
Meanwhile when I was twelve and every key I pressed sounded like that typewriter.
The retro look on this device is complemented by the "retro" software experience as well. It's a whole complete package tbh.
And it asks like retro software too!
Remember Windows ME?
No?
Me neither.
Lulz
@@moderneducationalstandard ME really wasn't *that* bad as long as you installed the updates. Out of box? Garbage. But it was just as capable as 98se and 2000 when updated.
I REALLY want the second generation of this to happen, soon. Also, maybe a 15 inch version? I think that would be very cool- it would make the netbook mode more reasonable, and easel mode better too. also more room for a bigger keyboard!
Asus 1-up'd you there. 17" big enough?
Version 2 coming Q4. It looks awesome.
This might sound crazy, but perhaps instead of a trackpad maybe a good ol' trackpoint in true thinkpad style
There you go.
Yep, that would give the keyboard more space as well. Wouldve been a far better fit for this!
Judging by how it already has slipping problems, as well as magnets being prone to weaken overtime. I dont have much confidence in a trackpoint being much better
That and also, can it be called a thinkpad without the trackpoint?
It is also pretty funny that the first thinkpad laptop that Lenovo omits the trackpoint in the modern day, ends up probably needing it the most. That awkwardly laid out keyboard isn't helping. While I'm at it, RIP 7 row keyboard. The king of laptop keyboards from a productivity, intuitive layout of the laptop world!
Even though its pretty amazing, the fact that it doesn't have a trackpoint whilst being a thinkpad bothers me especially at this small form factor. The overall shape reminds me of the ancient thinkpad transnote, but the technology definitely has come through to what the transnote should've been
No TrackPoint = Ideapad imo
Just interested if you are really using it? After playing a bit with trackpoint I found that it is easier to just navigate with keyboard if you don't want to touch TouchPad or mouse
@@dmitrizaslavski8480 I have owned multiple thinkpads over the years, T30, X60s, X220 and yes I do use the trackpoint (The X60s didnt even come with a trackpad). For me its more easier to use the trackpoint especially for scrolling. One thing I often see is that people have their trackpoint sensitivity too low so they have to push that nub harder than they have to. If you're having that problem try increasing the sensitivity, it should be feather touch and comfortable to use
This the type of content the tech world needs, un-influenced , unfiltered, easy to digest and process to make a smart informed and satisfied purchase.
To that, I thank you mr.mobile it was thanks to you that I purchased the OG moto x as my first phone, along with most of the tech I use on a daily basis.
@Prison Mike I've been following him since his days at pocketnow
At which time I was 16
So please learn some manners and educate yourself on how to treat other human beings
P.S. I use both Jio & Airtel if that makes you feel a little better
Using jio doesn't mean your cheap or poor it means your smart because that means you know how to use your money wisely
instead of trying to belittle others try showing some appretiation for mr mobile cause that's who we're here for, not you or me
@Prison Mike Seriously dude, you are pathetic.
@Prison Mike ah man, god help toxic weebs like you on the internet. He was complimenting a youtuber that we all love and respect. And every word he said was true. Take some of that money that you spend on "good internet" instead of jio, and use it to buy yourself some manners
@@chaituaaa1 Ignore the other guy they're a jerk.
Balls
This seems like one of those "it'll be fixed in Version 2" type devices.
Galaxy fold to the fold 2 type of thing. This looks like a fantastic start though, far better then the Galaxy folds first attempt
4:02 - That looks so silly...
*I love it*
seems obnoxiously loud & some pretentious hipster type of keyboard. would hate to be in a cafe with someone who has that clickity clackity clacker
@@anotherjuan the old keyboard style seems neat when you want to write and feel nostalgic, but in front of other people? No thanks lol
I wonder if Windows 11, with all its touch-centric UI enhancements will fix a lot of the issues on this device.
I can't say Windows 11 looks good, but in the same vain as Windows 8, it might be good for these tablet-like laptop platforms (and, you know, actual tablets).
The device is really cool though and I think Lenovo's onto something here. Maybe they'll get it right next time? Here's hoping. Even better if Windows 11 fixes a lot of the current issues.
I always love watching his videos, so creatively done
Me: I’m not interested in this product at all.
Me: Michael Fisher is reviewing it.
Me: Oh, OK, this meeting isn’t that important.
Or you can come to the meeting watch this review with your partners/clients instead.
apart from windows being pretty with the 5% it actually has updated from vista i actually genuinely despise windows it's such an ancient broken mess, i hope that 10x goes on desktop too and is actually something consistent and working
You are right but this is because there devices are used in lots of application other than home / consumer applications
So it needs to have the most compatibility so the expensive gear that runs on Windows and it's peripherals don't break because Microsoft wants to remove support
Android would be a much better implementation on this device with Samsung Dex and android one UI from Samsung it wouldve been great .
So I think if Samsung made this with Android with One UI and Samsung Dex it would been a great user experience
Such a refined breakdown of the breakdown of a prototype. I hope that it will have 10X soon so it can work as intended.
Great review as always. Disappointing to hear that they didn't really ship out a finished product. These kind of usability bugs (mouse jitter/drift, typing errors, connectivity) just make a product so frustrating to use it ends up on a shelf instead of in your hand.
For me I'm disappointed because it uses windows
İf it used android and if Lenovo made its own Samsung Dex platform on android it would run great
I use my tab s7 Fe with Samsung Dex very good
My setup is
Phone=Galaxy S7 Edge(yeah the 2016 one) (with custom ROM)
Tablet= Galaxy tab S7 FE with touchpad keyboard cover. (This is the 2021 version)
Laptop= a 6 core i7 proccessor with GTX 1650 that I use only in the house while the galaxy tab S7 FE I take it wherever I go
This device feels like a glimpse into the future. Hope Lenovo keeps developing this concept and fix the problems.
I can't even afford half of the products you feature, I am here for your videos man.....keep up the good work 😇
Bless you man 😃
To be fair to Lenovo, the fact that they got the hardware this right on the first-gen of a new product category is pretty impressive. To think all the issues aren't with the folding screen, what you would've assumed to be the most "in-progress" part of such a device, is amazing. I'm sure the second-gen is gonna be amazing.
This review is pretty fair and spot-on. I've had my Fold for a couple of months now, and there are three bugs I've encountered - two of which you covered in frustrating detail. Something's definitely wrong with Bluetooth, and the screen orientation issue was something that happened a lot when I first got the device, though it seems to have been fixed somewhat with a software update. Another bug I've experienced is that the battery doesn't always charge to 100%, even when I've left it to charge overnight. When I turn the device on or wake it after being plugged in, I'll sometimes only have 93% battery. I've also found the wireless charging of the keyboard to be inconsistent as well.
Despite all of that, I still love the device. The keyboard is surprisingly comfortable to type on, even though you have to use multiple function buttons to produce a question mark amongst other forms of punctuation. Being able to have it folded like a laptop without the keyboard is great when I'm researching, as I can have a pdf/TH-cam video on the upper half while taking notes on the bottom half - something that Lenovo's previous Yoga Books never got completely right. When used in netbook mode I'm getting about 7-8 hours of use, though it really is a shame that the full screen mode only gets 3-4 hours (and that's with brightness around 50% for me).
I really do wish they would have waited until 10X came out though, though some of the many problems you experienced would likely still be problems. For now it's absolutely amazing Lenovo got the hardware so right for a first gen product (the fact that it's hard to see the crease except when the screen is off, and even then, it's minimal is astounding). If only they had better internals and software. When things work, though, it's a blast to use.
Awww, too bad for the poor execution. This is a form factor I like. The idea and design of the completed product is right up my alley. Hopefully, the software can be fine tuned to fix all those bugs you demo'd. 🤞🤞🤞
Decent first attempt at this concept. Definitely will be looking forward to the next iteration of this hardware if it manages to garner one after this lackluster launch.
Me: "if the price is right I could put up with the bugs"
Me after seeing price: "..."
I love this concept. I hope the next generations will be better
I’d buy this in a hot second if Apple made one. Great design idea, just needs quality execution
Sick opening music.
Lenovo
We are introducing our brand new and the world's first folding laptop
Audience
Clear confusion
Although the first iteration wasn't the best, I'm thrilled that Lenovo is even trying this form factor.
Maybe this will push other manufacturers to do the same, eventually creating better and more affordable products.
6:22 wait are you serious? Is it possible that this spotify web issue is the same problem I'm having on my windows 10 laptop? I used to hear that same thing and would have to restart the laptop. It's been a couple of months since then though.
Same. I've heard it before.
Spotify's Windows apps are likely the issue. Some pretty lazy programming there.
HEY I saw us on there! That's cool! Thanks for watching!
I really wanted this to be great, it’s the coolest looking device out there. years of development and you can’t even type on it ?? Lol
I WAS looking forward to this product, the form factor, the technology, the inherent "wow" factor. It's a shame it's half baked. Guess I'm just going to stick with my HP ZBook X2 G4. Thanks for the review!
To be honest,majority of the issues happen because of Windows 10
@@tezcanaslan2877 But why do you think they chose to ship it with Windows 10 and not another OS?
It's because those OSes either don't have the features wanted or in the case of Windows 10X just aren't ready.
@@tams805 Maybe because Windows 10 is more well known to businessman than Linux
"Lenovo didn't pay for this coverage."
Hell yeah it didn't.
I would love to see how this behaves with linux on it.
I use a lot linux on surface pro. I use linux for specific usage (download from unsafe sites). So not sure why use so much linux on 2-in-1 devices (linux means shell=lots of typing, opposite of touch devices).
This laptop is of a totally *Different* category.
This is a great product! I hope they continue improving in this direction ...
I knew you'd be enthusiastic when I saw the form factor, and like you, seeing the bugs is a deal-breaker for me. However, I keep thinking "Just a little farther and it might be ready for primetime." I so want something like this to be GOOD.
Give it Linux Lenovo, build your own os for this beautiful hardware.
Windows 10 does sadly suck for tablets still, you might get more luck with Linux perhaps.
I installed Pop!_OS on my Surface 3 with 4GB RAM and it runs way better with fewer bugs than Microsoft's own OS with the virtual keyboard and everything. Idk that's just a suggestion, it's all personal preference.
Very neat PC I kinda want one now and install Linux on it of course.
Hardware is good the main problems are software.
I liked the intro🔥
Almost sumarize the entired video and well made XD
It's like often with a first gen. The idea is brilliant but it has it's problems.
I am excited to see how the next gens will be.
Check out my s21 ultra review....
The fact that you're watching this Quality of Videos for Free is just Unbelievable!
Mr. Fisher, first thanks for the amazing content, a huge fan! I always check your reviews before a purchase, this is the only one I didn't follow. I bought an X1 Fold during the holiday sale this past Christmas. The unit works perfectly. And windows 11 has improved its battery life as well as brought some excellent features (windows hello camera works now) and others.
Would you consider another look to help bring this amazing tech to the mainstream?
I was dyING at the spelling errors and your voiceover on them 🤣🤣🤣
Lenovo’s 2 in 1 Convertible-Hybrid Laptop + Tablet software technology is lackluster. 😔 I loved my Lenovo Yoga 2 Pro until the fans stopped cooling it sufficiently.
when you said "the sleeker chrome os" I thought you were going to say this is going to be released as a Chromebook and I got excited that I might actually buy this
All those problems gave me a headache. And people wonder why we are "Apple fanboys". I was so hopeful that I could make this my daily tablet/mobile linux programming device, my hope didn't last long. How can a keyboard input system that has an issue like typing letters double could get past the quality check? It has one job!
“Earned the ThinkPad name...”
“Keyboard shows wear in two days...”
NOPE.
Let alone losing the Trackpoint.
Toss the new Gateway logo on the boxes and dump them on fire sale at Walmart if this is what Lenovo thinks a ThinkPad is.
Maybe install Linux with a Gnome Desktop Environment? It would be highly interesting what you could do with it - especially since Gnome is touchscreen friendly. A lot of people want to see these devices running Linux (since we can't afford them haha). But seriously, Linux may be the best choice here.
Awwww man.... I was really looking forward to this one.
Would you consider doing a followup video after updating X1 Fold to Windows 11 (which replaced the primarily intended Windows 10X)?
Windows 10x on this does sound interesting, but I'm more interested to see how android would look on this 🤔
So eventually the worst thing about this breakthrough device is... Windows. Who would guess they f*uck this thing up again...
WE FINALLY HAVE A HITCHHIKER'S GUIDE TO THE GALAXY BOOK!!!
Side note: Someone should make a linux distro just to mimic the book from the movie lmao
I always love your reviews, but for artists like myself really want to know if the stylus is Microsoft pen protocol, or if it’s Wacom (like mentioned in the video), if it’s AES or EMR tech. It makes a really big difference. For me Wacom EMR (like the Samsung S-pens) are the only ones worth contemplating. Wacom AES and MPP are rubbish at slow diagonal or curved lines. And I need those for drawing cartoons.
I know this isn’t an art channel, but Brad Colbow doesn’t review as many tech devices as you do. Just 20 seconds on the stylus.
It's not EMR, so if you want that this is an absolute no go.
But it's not worth it anyway for so many other reasons. Incredibly cool, but not a good buy.
This is, by far, the coolest device I've seen that I don't actually want.
the entire VIDEO in One Phrase "Cant DEFY NATURE, ANSWER 2 Foldable"
It's no wonder Microsoft is taking its time with the Surface Neo - imagine if it shipped in this state! (The Surface Duo no doubt gave Microsoft reason for pause as well.)
4:05 that's one annoying, loud, & pretentious hipster keyboard. I would hate to be in a cafe with someone who has that type of obnoxious keyboard
It looks like a perfect candidate for android 11 with Samsung DEX
I actually like the idea of this product as long as one day it is refined and affordable.
Windows 7 would be a better choice of operating system over W10.
I saw an adv. In that it showed apple users had no idea about pc laptop being so great.
I imagine the shock they will feel when they see your video 😊
Hey! Wonder if your view has changed when Windows 11 is installed. Any plans to do a video on it?
Get rid of loud bg music while you speak
Reading the errors on the script got me laughing 😂
I honestly wanna see Lenovo try this again because the fact you can use it as a notebook, tablet and that cover that looks like an old school notebook is so fascinating to me. Here's to hoping Lenovo fixes the problems you listed and the next release comes with Win10X
10X has been cancelled. I hope the concept of this device isn't.
The 3rd generation should be really good. I can't wait!
5:30 So I guess Windows 11 can fix that problem
I trust Lenovo to push this design towards actual usability. I'll be tuning in for gen 2 or 3 for sure. For now, I'll stick to the long list of totally feasible Yoga variants.
How about a Windows 11 Second Look?
I personally love my X1 Fold (Gen1) paired with Windows 11 but unfortunately it's still hobbled by many of the issues that plagued the Win10 iteration. Bluetooth randomly cuts out completely and the screen still doesn't want to switch as smoothly after going to sleep\being on for a while. A reboot does fix the issue but for a device costing this much you really have to love the form factor to overlook these issues.
Waiting for you update it to window 11 and review again
It’s a cool idea but Michael, in what ways do you see this form factor as being better than, say, the C940, even under ideal circumstances? It seems that you personally would constantly be using a keyboard with the Fold since you view it more as a PC-that combined form factor seems even chunkier than the C940. Also the C940 seems to more easily transition into a tablet, without having to detach/keep track of the keyboard. Plus it has a sound-bar and excellent touch/stylus support, and 4K. Besides the “materials tech” advancement, I don’t see what reason there is to purchase this over a 10-out-of-10 convertible, even after all the glitches you mentioned are fixed.
i'd love to see a linux build for this type of machine, that would be amazing to see
It would be difficult but I think they would pull it off, imagine doing Gentoo on it lol
@@shinkiro69420 i'd imagine a specialized DE for it, along with a bunch of helper programs for stuff like rotation and virtual keyboard
@@genmaicha_ there are already virtual keyboards for linux but they dont really look good, sadly things in linux are pretty good but the UI isnt liked by people, thats the problem, I hope they overcome the UI hurdle, I am thinking of learning UX dev, so i could somehow help them improve the UI lol
Have you tried putting linux on it? Just to see what happens.
4:18 this would have been the perfect device for Lenovo to bring back the 7 row keyboard. The king of TKL keyboards as it has both the functionality of a full sized keyboard, but the compact footprint of a TKL while still technically having the num-pad functionality. Instead people get this anemic touchpad instead which is far less efficient than the trackpoint. Especially in this form factor!
They should’ve just stick to the old red dot. That thing’s hella reliable.
When you called this machine "disappointing", I thought you were being hyperbolic. Turns out you were being polite.
Laptop sucks. I'd rather have a PS5
New video with Windows 11 would be interesting.
Looks like a pain in the ass. Thank you for the review
Those heavy beat drops and screen slams at the beginning, now I understand. You were quite literally just frustrated at the dang thing! Haa.
windows 11 on this laptop will be very good
Excellent review and thanks for the warning. Lots of work to do on this unit still. Watching from the Philippines.
Man the way you make your reviews are really awesome. Everytime I eagerly wait for your foldable devices' reviews.
Keep it going :-)
yeah man this would proabbly be great with Windows 10X, or they at least implement Windows 10 properly into this. I mean,. I use a 8' UMPC that has both pen and folding yoga screen and it has less bug than that.
Here’s my answer to your question of “why isn’t tech fun anymore?” This device.
finally, toptop
Can't wait to see this update with Windows 11
I think this type of design has a lot of potential. I’m looking forward to the next generation of these type of laptop/tablet hybrids
The correct term for this laptop is 2 in 1
You are youtube's biggest champion of folding screen technology 🤞
I'm folding this round.
Lenovo is not IBM.... its China's
If they ever decide to try again and can fix all the issue outlined I would absolutely give this a shot to replace my rapidly aging XPS 13 from 4 years ago.
Need the name of that intro song - absolute fire
This was a very ambitious and groundbreaking device. I'm definitely looking forward to when they improve on it.
i can't count the amount of times they never "improved it" whether it be a tv show or movie or a videogame that should get another shot concept is good execution is bad
I would love to see a reevaluation video of this device running Windows 11. Initial impressions online suggest it’s a rather positive improvement.
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