How Ferrari's F1 engine tricks created an even more dominant Mercedes
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 19 ก.ค. 2020
- Ferrari's dip in form in the 2020 F1 season has been made worse - for the Prancing Horse and everyone else - by the fact Mercedes appears stronger than ever this year. And a big part of that is down to the huge effort the reigning champion team put in for 2020 in response to Ferrari's resurgent form in the second half of 2019. Not only did Ferrari seemingly lose that advantage with clarifications from the FIA about engine loopholes, but it lit a fire in Mercedes that pushed the best team on the grid to achieve an even higher standard for 2020.
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How far is Mercedes ahead of Ferrari?
Two Racing Points ahead.
+2 redbull and 2 mclaren
@@abdielabraar910 forgot about those.
Nice one...
@@theincrediblehunk2668 both Red Bulls and McLarens were slower than Ferrari in qualy
You made some great points that describe the points gap between the Mercedes' and the Ferrari.
Mercedes: *laps almost every other car on the grid except for the red bulls and a pink Mercedes*
Also Mercedes: We're really struggling this season
The struggling part will come later in the season just to make things exciting.. 🤣
Laps almost every car except for one red bull and a pink mercedes. The way Max makes the red bull look like it is a competitive package is as godlike as Hamiltons' performances so far.
@@Roguescienceguy they would be terrible teammates, but I'd love to see Max in the Mercedes. The battle would be epic.
@@Roguescienceguy More likely that Albon hasn't realized the full potential of the car yet. But of course, Verstappen fans hyping him up as usual.
@@areebsiddiqui758 🤔 even though Max won his first GP for RB when it was a shit car?Yes he would have only got P3 If two mercs didnt crash but Albon has only been close on 2 occasions.
mercedes sells their 2019 car to racing point
Mercedes: *Finally a Worthy opponent*
Supercharged Petrolhead
Even then. They aren’t that close anyway!
@@Showmetheevidence- true, mercedes is so far ahead...
@Patrick Quinn bad fucking drivers??? Dude seb was one of the best before they backstabbed him
@@lookimnotracistbut5695 remember when he was 8 seconds ahead of everyone in 2018, during the title fight, and a damp track caused him to go off and crash? I'm not saying he is a shit driver, but he surely isn't nearly as good as he used to be.
@@badzone7761 I know he's not as good as he used to be but he still very good and he will prove that 2021 at Aston Martin
This season is gonna be long for Ferrari
And the following season too.
This season is gonna be long in general
... and all the fans that just want to see some competition at the front, in 2022 perhaps??
Engine development is essentially frozen from 2021 until the foreseeable future. Any Ferrari engine team is going to be struggling for years to come
Don't forget next year...
Not only the engine but now the aero concept is proving to be superior. Everyone copied and went down the Red Bull path of a high rake car while Mercedes kept its level design and now they are all out to lunch and are wondering why.
Engine, aero, & mechanical...
@@BigMic69 Team spirit also, notice there is no witch hunt culture like at Ferrari
Since they had the best engine they could go for a better over-all concept, while Red Bull aimed to make up the difference with more radical aero, and now they've created a really unstable car that doesn't seem to have more downforce either. Pretty much everyone tripped over themselves, and the only ones having any progress are Racing Point who were clever enough to not try to be clever at all...
@@IanMrozewski The number 16 is not lucky for Newey
FW16 - RB16
(I'm not superstitious, just something i noticed)
Ian Mrozewski the rake difference goes back to the V8’s. Merc has always had very good mechanical grip which is why they ate tires for so long. Newey is going with aero over mechanical grip and all the other teams followed because it is a Newey design they think will strike gold.
The tragedy of Darth Binotto "the wise"
Execute order S🅱️innala
It's not a story the FIA would tell you...
@@YeetIord It's a Ferrari legend. Darth Binotto was a Dark Lord of the Ferrari, so sneaky and so cunning, he could use the fuel-flow meter to influence an advanced fuel pump to create power... He had such a knowledge of the fuel-flow meter that he could even give the drivers he cared for back-to-back pole positions. The Ferrari side of the fuel pump is a pathway to many abilities other teams consider to be against the sporting regulations.
His car became so powerful... the only thing he was afraid of was loosing that power, which eventually, of course, he did.
Unfortunately, he taught Mercedes' engine department everything he knew, then Mercedes improved and got Ferrari's engine banned in the off-season. It's ironic, he could give others a win, but not himself.
Ser Garlan Tyrell this is genius.
This comment section is so civilized. It brings me visual happiness
When the #1 driver almost laps everyone except for the 2 other podiums, you know it isn't a competition anymore
Let's just hope Liberty keeps their cameras on the interesting midfield battles instead of showing a driver doing laps alone around a track
It had to be said!!
to be fair we barely saw Hamilton during the race. The TV directors really stepped up this season showing us a lot of the midfield battles. Sadly the backmarkers (Alfa, Williams) are still not on camera other than accidents such as spins
@@alienROCKZ Thank fuck they're finally realizing how boring it is to watch the front of the pack with Mercedes being so damn good
Finally been saying it for years it's shit to watch and a boring sport! Glad fans have finally started to voice there opinions. 90% of comments on here is about how boring and uncompetitive the sport is. It's supposed to called RACING and I havent seen wheel to wheel battles at the front for years. Yes well done merc. But it's not a sport when Hamilton sits in the cockpit does little steering correction whilst max same lap time is doing 1000 adjustments a lap. Yes well done merc but where's the sport challenge? The car drives itself. Even martin brundle has driven the mercs and he says it virtually drives itself. That's not sport / racing that's just building the best car and winning without much racing?
I do wish Bottas was a little better and more consistent and it could of been a good title fight between the 2 but it looks like he doesn't have it to challenge Lewis's auto-pilot.
Hamilton, Bottas and Vestappen on the podium will be a very familiar site this season.
And in that order too
Yes for 2/3. Red Bull still looks shaky in quali and car hasn’t been great this past few weeks
Glad we only have 8 races
@@smollyf1697 Its actually ten as I write this. Russia and Italy I think, was added.
Lance Stroll and possibly Sergio Perez might disagree with you about that.
It just struck me that Mercedes key senior personnel are really well known to the public, and regularly speak about their area of work with joy and passion, be it in TH-cam videos or in skysport pre-race features! From Ferrari side we see just one person: Mattia. Such a difference in culture. Toto Wolf really has this band of geniuses around him + the best driver. Does anyone recall a similar setup not so long ago? Byrne, Brawn, Domenicali, Chris Dyer, Kees van der Grint, Baldesseri, JT, MS..
Seems like post Jean Todt Ferrari went from a racing team back to a political party
Byrne was an absolute legend.(Not a bit of country bias🤣🤣) 🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪
Remember who set up the current Mercedes team in its infancy ;)
I agree about the public outreach. The few times last year that both Ferrari and Renault tried TH-cam features, they always struck me as too much corporate-staged P.R., like something you'd see in a TV commercial.
@@AugustusCaesar88 it was Scumacher. But maybe it's better that he's in a coma, instead of seeing what a corrupt monster has Mercedes (and FIA) became.
@@cinegraphics nope, before it was Mercedes it was Brawn GP
Congratulations to Mercedes for their 2020 constructors title!
It is a forgone conclusion that it is going to be 1-4 Mercedes championship
And driver championship title..... Its a zzzzz zzzzz zzzz 😴 fest! Boring
Dont forget, 2021
Patrick Quinn salty Lewis fan lol
Patrick Quinn Woah chill, I thought all Lewis fans were nice
Looks like Ferrari letting Vettel go before the season even started was a huge blessing in disguise for him! So great!
Yeah and it's not so great for the sport. Now there's gonna be one less world champ on the grid to challenge merc. And replaced by someone no offence sainz who hasn't won a race and leclerc who only has 2 wins. Shocking 🤯 team decisions.
@@JM-cf8zy bruh
this aged
mercedes has been unstoppable from the jump of the modern turbo v6 era. kudos to them for not getting complacent with r&d and always forcing their competition to be 2 steps behind their pace
It is not only the engine!
- Recognize what Hamilton says about the chassi.
The technic is determined by the technicians, and this is the point where the advantage dwells!
Does anyone else remember a couple of years ago when Mercedes announced that they had broken the 50% threshold for efficiency? Their F1 engine actually used more fuel to propel their car than was wasted, through heat primarily. That was an amazing accomplishment for automotive engineering.
yes and they started research for this hibrid era in 2007. no wonder they are ahead, not to mention their ultimatum for this engine type, otherwise they wouldn't join..
@@lemi9869 and other teams had 8 years to catch up.
I enjoy F1 but its hard to get excited for a sport where you know the outcome of a competition before the start of the event.
Just ignore Mercedes exists and the races are actually pretty fun!
@@PhilGerb93 Yeah I try but then the camera mostly follows the front. I'm a big McLaren fan but they barely show them on screen.
When you are forced to ignored the winners of a sports like this to enjoy it, just shows that something isnt ok.
@@AlexTapisevic of course something is wrong, I think most people agree with you
Ya, same like 2000 to 2004, m schumacher.... Win every race...
How far is Mercedes ahead?
Well, other teams are struggling to beat their 2019 car driven by a rich boi, that is how far they are ahead.
I love this 😂
Yeah... Mercedes has corrupted FIA to the maximum extent. Nobody ever though it's possible to bribe FIA this much, without facing the rage of fans. But somehow, with the help of media, Mercedes got away with their crime for 7 years.
@@cinegraphics do you have proof for that??? or are you just an idiot with internet connection???
@@superchargedpetrolhead just an idiot with internet connection
If you can't see what's going on, even 7 years after FIA did what they did, then you really should question your mental health.
I am a Ferrari fan that hates Ferrari due to their mismanagement and consistent poor performance.
Ok-a-y... I was once a Dallas Cowboys fan, but had to part ways. First Jerry Jones fired Tom Landry (Legendary coach), then made Jimmy Johnson (Miami Hurricanes coach) get out of his contract early, and finally by not drafting Randy Moss (what more to say). IJS
@@BigMic69 admitting it is the first step 😂
Ferrari is still a formidable team. So what if they cheated. This will only (hopefully) make them work hard and come up with a good car for 2022.
@@BigMic69 Tony Romo seems to have a better career as an ex Cowboy
So sad no? ☹️
I'm reminded of that line from Tora Tora Tora. "I fear all we have done is awaken a sleeping giant and fill him with a terrible resolve"
I love the Merc. It's even more menacing in the black livery.
Black arrows are more badass than silver arrows.
That's racist
Oh, so you find black menacing do you?
Racist.
Noo I dont mean anything racist, I was just talking about the livery. Please dont take it in a wrong manner.
That new Merc livery is fuckin beautiful
This is why Mercedes is the best team. Instead of simply waiting and hoping their competitors get downgraded, they work hard to continue improving their already great car.
This way regardless of the decision (if their competitor is legal or not) they will continue ahead of them.
Any team can and would do the same with some alot of MONEY.
@@AlexTapisevic Ferrari has much bigger budget than Mercedes yet they are still behind
@@denzyl merc had the highest budget in f1 in 2018 and 2019.
Alex Tapisevic Never said they don’t have a huge budget, just saying that they don’t get complacent, despite already having the best car they continue to push and better themselves. And clearly not every team can do the same given Ferrari’s results.
Stefano S yeah it’s a mentality that money can’t buy that’s what merc has over everyone else
This is how we define fools in Senegal: those who are too smart for their own good.
Hey! Another Senegalese F1 fan :-). I wonder how many of us are out there
thieuba1 must be a lot of us out there. I’ve been a fan since the Prost and Senna days.
@@elhadjiamadoujohnson4166 Didn`t they build a racetrack new in Senegal? The Dakar Racetrack or similar? Would be great to have a race there in close future.
Marc Nobel I’m not aware of that. That would be wonderful!!!
@@elhadjiamadoujohnson4166 I just checked the Name. It is called Circuit De Dakar-Baobabs De Sindia. FIA approved 4,7 km track. - Would be great to get race there.
This season is gonna be a mercedes 1-4
Laughed
Watch that one video called something like mercedes masterplan. 1-4 won't be the end
Obi-Wan to Ferrari: You were supposed to destroy them not join them!
Bring balance to F1! Not leave it in darkness!
Vettel to racing point: Hello there
@@Justinyoon12345 not gonna happen. And Perez deserves a good car.
@@redneck3693 Except it might happen. 🤷
OMG.. just an excellent post.
With the budget caps of 2022, Ferrari have squandered the years when they could have been improving their engine and now won't be able to.
Maybe they should of worked and developed other areas like aero, chassis, brake ducts and found loop holes in the rules instead of sitting still.
it's absolutely horrifying how good mercedes is, massive respect to them. it's been more than half a decade and still no one could catch up to them.
Ferrari was the fastest car in the 2017, 2018 and 2019 season. But having the fastest car is not enough if your strategy isn't spot on and your fighting Mercedes.
@@Ancovg umm, mate, check yer facts. 2017 yes correct they threw that away but the other ones??
Overrated drivers and bad engineers are all over the grid. FIA should look to make it easier for teams to enter F1 and get rid of dead woods that are killing it.
@@Ancovg XDJDHJDJKDHjdKJh
@@Ancovg yea and say that red bull had most dominant car in 2009-2013?
The lesson is: never ever lie to a german about an engineering breakthrough you had, the germans will make the lie a truth! "my car does 20000RPM and 400km/h and it is powered by unicorn pee!", then complain that one year later they come with a car that does better than that and an actual unicorn couple!
Really the only german things at Mercedes F1 are the name and the guys writing the checks. They bought British company Ilmor engineering to produce the engines and the team itself is actually a rebrand of the old Brawn GP team. Pretty sure all the engineering staff are based in Britain.
@@joshua92jeffery Mclaren is also British, but that doesn't change where they are. Mercedes team has German mentality. If your leader is German, he will make sure that the hall team will work like German machine.
@@utasajaia5681 I just pointed out that the technical expertise behind Mercedes F1 is British. "german mentality" contributes far less to the team than the massive amounts of money mercedes are capable of pouring into the team. This is highlighted by fact that ilmor and Brawn were producing champinship winning carsand engines long before mercedes decided to bankroll them. Also what the hell does Mclaren have to do with this?
While most of the teams are based in Britain, a lot of the staff are international. If’s not a British monopoly.
@@joshua92jeffery ask Ferrari and Red Bull how much "massive amounts of money" means when you don't know how to use it.
Long story short: working with heads down, minding your own business makes difference. While others try to copy others designs, mercedes innovate and it makes major difference. Others after copying design have not where to go further, but designer of original idea always have ideas how to improve it.
Mercedes has a well oiled F1 team.
The only team Ferrari has is their legal team.
If they can't protest to the FIA or abuse the rules, they are sitting ducks.
Ferrari cheated and pushed the Merc to the legal limits. they are just doing very good in their engineering department. come on, Ferrari caught, then the merc is abusing rules? F1 teams havent got the rhythm on this era, Merc is way beyond it.
Shobair Jr. Abantas don’t think you understood their post.
@@comparecars_org there are new sensors on engines that only FIA can access, that measure fuel flow, try again its legal engine and Mercedes knows it smokes when just filled with oil, just haven't figured out why it smokes yet
Well burning oil (kek)
@@comparecars_org Toto has literally said they are going to try and figure out why between Hungary and Great Britain and I'm also pretty sure he said he would tell the media once they found out as well
I would be furious if I was Red Bull. Red Bull could have been 2nd in the constructors championship in 2019
true
I would be furios if I was Red Bull because Mercedes sent me to fight Ferrari, then I thought I was a title contender but Mercedes is unbeateble because their tricks never get outlawed. So I lose 2 times.
They could have been 2nd this year too but look at them.
@@R4M_Tommy Oh how I like this silent crying
@@R4M_Tommy "but Mercedes is unbeateble because their tricks never get outlawed"
What tricks?
Qudos rightly has to be given to Mercedes, but my goodness is our sport uncompetitive. Yesterday’s race was over by lap 2. That’s a bad look.
There's 20 drivers on the grid. They're not all racing for podium. F1 is very competitive in the midfield. But yeah, if you only care about race winners, you'll find this season to be very boring.
RAF SHAZONORA just have to wait for 2022
RAF SHAZONORA I care about the sport as a whole. The fact that at the top end it’s uncompetitive is a problem....Hamilton himself has said so. By the time 2022 is here, that will be 7 straight years of no one touching Mercedes. (Not that Mercedes are going to stop being brilliant post 2021 either). Competitive balance is critical.
sam thomas let’s hope 2022 fixes it
It was quite entertaining to see Verstappen get into the barrier on the warmup lap and the Red Bull team pull a rabbit out of the hat to fix the front wing.
As a golden state warriors and Ferrari fan, now I know how it feels to be on either side of domination 🤣
Same ahahhaha
As a Raptors fan, I can only quote one man. "AHUE AHUE HUE HUEE"
Sunny Liu Lol ...All I will say is ..there’s no way a guy like Kahwi gets the last laugh !
GSW are going through some major injuries and reinforcements to the team due to age... They are not letting us down like Ferrari is doing to the F1 community..
If you look clearly, GSW and Merc internal cultures are quite similar
And GSW did bow out of their dominance to the Raptors but with fair fight till the last and with respect (except the Durant injury) unlike Ferrari.
Ps : GSW and RED BULL fan here
The Golden States "Warriors" are bunch of cowards and fake alphas.
They went to recruit an even weaker coward in Durant.
Ferrari relied so much on it's engine trickery in 2019 that they simply ignored the other weak points of it's package for the 2020 season.
Not only 2019 I would reckon. This is probably a old trick they ran for a good number of years.
@@JohnAbrahamsen the size of the apparent power deficit definitely suggests that
If they had expended as much effort on improvement as they did on trickery . . .
Idk what's wrong with the FIA. Why would they freeze development to the extent where closing a gap to Mercedes would be impossible for any team and engjne supplier? Strangling the sport
my thoughts exactly, F1 is dead, FE it is then
They had to cut costs. There is a pandemic going on
I'm thinking that it was because the new car was suppose to be next year, but the human malware situation discombobulated everything... IJS
Because the smaller teams don’t have the money to develop cars, especially after covid-19. If they didn’t freeze development, Haas, Williams and sauber would probably die
No, the reason why everyone can’t catch Mercedes is because they are not putting in the work to catch them. They aren’t using their head to try and innovate within the rules like Mercedes. People just don’t seem to get yah Mercedes is just better at engineering a car.
Mercedes is half a second per lap ahead of Verstappen, who is ahead of everyone else by at least .7 seconds.
@Patrick Quinn Mercedes for making a bloody quick car...
@Patrick Quinn The FIA for not banning their car.
@@ChefofWar33 Ferrari for still being shiet even tho' they got the biggest sponsorship money and 100M from FIA when nobody else does simply for existing, and yet still able to make a dogshiet of a car.
@Patrick Quinn merc / fia for letting them build a car that drives itself. And Hamilton does little corrections / adjustments compared to others and especially the old skool real f1 cars of yester year. Not these hybrid computer chip cars.
@@JM-cf8zy corrections and adjustments are needed when the car is twitchy and will easily oversteer, so given Merc clearly have a car that produces far more downforce than anyone else, that's probably why it's easier to drive. Oh, and also I'm fairly sure that the drivers still drive the car and that computer chips have literally nothing to do with this.
When Ferrari got a bit quick last year... someone said that there is some "tricks" in that car...now Mercs r a second quicker than everyone else and there is no suspicions/tricks on that🤔
Look where 95% of the Mercedes are from and where most of the english press are from
That’s cause Ferrari played outside the rules. You can’t say someone is breaking the rules of you’re doing the same thing but better. The merc is almost the same as last years, they just optimized every part.
Ferrari had suspicious amount of straight line speed advantage. Mercedes doesn't have that much on a straight line, they just have an overall car that is a monster. It's like Ferrari in 2004. Their car was legal, but damn fast. Remember in Monza, Lewis couldn't get close to Ferrari with DRS and slip stream. Now get in Mercedes now, and let Honda follow them with DRS and slip stream, they will catch for sure. Ferraris top speed in monza without DRS was like 365 km/h while Mercedes behind had only like 330 or something. You don't see that big of a gap today, Mercedes is fastest may be on straights, bit the gap is no more than 5-10 km/h
Because of Ferrari there paying the strictest rules and extra attention to what's burning in a engine with new fuel flow sensors
There’s definitely something with the Mercades car
I'd like to see F1 do a couple of exhibition races with spec machinery. As much as I respect Merc and Hamilton's achievements, it's frustrating to have so many talented drivers with little to no chance of winning any races.
spec racing is boring. Love having the added dynamic of different designed cars on the grid as well as drivers. At the end of the day It's Red Bull and Ferrari's fault they can't build something better.
@@hankrearden5460
Just one would be fine.. a whole season would suck.. and since cars are so expensive, I'm with you on this.
Btw: like your avatar name. I'm a big fan of the message of 1984.
Yes one sprint race in hertz rent a cars.
Stop crying like a little baby
go watch karting if you want a driver to driver race.
How far ahead of Autosport is The Race (in quality terms) - Mercesque ;) Impressively fast to 300,000 you guys deserve it.
The old Autosport cast left to form the race.
@@Bahamuttiamat Quite.
Yeah Autosport presentation style can be really dry, its painful to watch, and any seemingly interesting articles are behind a paywall
I love your podcasts guys. Scott, the way you try to explain things is great! Keep it up. Mark and Edd!!
i would love to see different engine sizes be allowed so teams could run v6, v8, v10 v12's just hearing all the different engine soudns would be amazing and seeign teh difference in performance too would be intereesting
mercedes does deserve their reward for their work, but it's stale...
I started watching again this year after 5years and it's embarrassing how weak the competition feels and it's simply boring for me
Finally people really starting to comment on the subject. The merc drives itself with little correction to a car like red bull for instance. Both teams neck and neck in a qualifying lap whilst ham sits and does little steering movement. And max is doing 1000 adjustments a lap. Lewis has it easy!
Its obvious to me that ferrari was allowing the fuel flow to continue after the driver closed thethrottle. Building up additional fuel in the rail that was then injected with the direct injection pump in combination with a longer injector pulse width. Most likely it was some sort of accumulator device, and per the rules, it would of been legal. This is why there was a second fuel flow meter required. FIA wanted to know exactly how much Ferrari was exceeding the mandated fuel flow. This also explains why the agreement was secret. So no one has to answer for the loophole that only Ferrari found.
Car development is "extremely limited" for this season and the next
While developing 2022 car is forbidden in 2020 (only can start in 2021)
I guess that's one more nail in the coffin
Ferrari is aiming to end behind BWT, Renault, McLaren and maybe even Alpha Tauri. That way they will have additional development time slots.
@@CamArias I stop there. I'll think that can aim even lower and maybe Williams and Alfa Romeo manage to get ahead of them. That way it is much easier to downscale the factory when they do not have the extra price money to spread.
@@CamArias what do you mean?
@@robertjusic9097 Not putting any real effort on the 2020 car. Hold proper updates for 2021, having extra Wind Tunnel hours for the 2022 development.
Could you do a video on how Jean Todt revolutionised Ferrari and how things have changed since then to cause their current problems??
I'd love that as well. A lot of modern F1 fandom seem to think Schumacher & Brawn deserved most of the credit, but Ferrari wouldn't have won titles without Todt (top 3 team the 2 years prior: their problem was never pace, it was reliability). Todt brought endurance racing experience & culture to Ferrari ( multiple Le Mans, World Rally Group B, Paris to Dakar wins with Peugeot). Of course Montezemolo deserves credit for hiring & empowering him to get the job done, but Todt was the real architect behind Ferrari's dominance.
“Toto, how can you explain the massive gains of your car since last year?”
Toto: *Here’s a little lesson i trickery, this is going down in history*
I hope BMW comes back with an engine or a whole team to challenge Merc.
BMW would massacre them top teams man
BMW aren't coming back in the immediate future
BMW lost 10-20years ago. BMW would loose today. You need great factory plus manufacturer support. Nie they could only but sauber again. It would look like come back of honda to mclaren or worse.
@@steamednangs I dont agree on second part. If he starts spinning again no use
@@Atomus87 yes, but BMW is the only company that can build engines that are equal to Mercedes. Though, whenever Mercedes decides that they need to up their game in engine department, they just make a huge jump
Does anyone know what the first background music track is?
yeah when it was pre-season testing me and my father thought that this was probably going to be the most exciting season in f1 since 2016. but then ferrari was wayyy off. and only redbull to challenge mercedes. atleast early. then hungary and redbull brings upgrades the makes the car even more unstable i think :/ and is 1,4 seconds behind on a track they usually hae been good at :(
now its probably going to be the most boring season of the hybrid era :/ :(
What is your definition of boring in this instance mate
Or is it just because Mercedes is winning thats why its boring for you. Would it have been boring if let say redbull or Ferrari had won the 1st 3 races? Come on man this is sports it's only the best prepared team that must win simple.
The midfield is quite possibly the closest it's ever been in the V6 era, with even the more boring circuits, like the Hungaroring, providing decent enough races. People seem to blame Mercedes for actually winning and being faster in a sport that's all about that. They're not going to give the other guys a chance, the other guys need to create their chance.
@@wembleyx no, it's just boring because every race will have the same outcome.
@@IanAdV I love the Hungaroring for some reason, it's just an insane track, tight corners and all, awesome track haha
How far ahead Mercedes this year:
1. Mercedes
2.
3.
4.
5.
6.
7.
8.
9.
10. Red Bull
11. McLaren
12. Racing Point
13. Ferrari
14. Renault
15. AlphaTauri
16. Alfa Romeo
17. Haas
18. Williams
I think you better put racing point up to 9 there bud, lol
Give RP verstappen and they might even be number 2
And they will get some decent drivers now that people know how close to the top they are
Poor Williams
I’m curious about how Bottas took the corner in the same car, did he do it close to flat out in gear 6 or not if not why
Ferrari getting busted by FIA reminds me of Chip from Dave Chappelle show when he got busted by police.
I'm sorry officer, I didn't know I cant do that:)
Excuse meee
Ouch, it doesn’t rain it pours for Ferrari. Except for in Hungary when everyone said it was going to rain again and it didn’t 😂
Mercedes: We want competition
Also Mercedes:
So they brought their pink dudes.
You gotta hand it to Mercedes. That car is an engineering marvel.
Very good video!
incredible that ferraris quali time at the hungaroring this yr was faster than last yrs, but mercs has jumpe a second ahead even, just incredible really
Team doing well
Other teams: wait thats illegal
The sport is defined by the rigid regulations to which all competitors must adhere - ergo - Formula 1. If one team gains an unfair advantage by running askance of the regs, it would be unsporting and fraudulent for the other teams to not call it out.
“Not only has Ferrari made themselves weaker, they have also made their fiercest competitor even stronger” How has Ferrari made Haas even stronger?
anyone have the original video for 1:50?
Ferrari : haha I do trick and engine go brrrrrrr
FIA:- you can't do tricks.
Mercedes :- haha no trick i just make engine go brrrrr
FiLOL true
@FiLOL Examples?
But it's not just the cars. It takes the drivers to know what to do with the rides and Team.
One question though is why everybody suspected Ferrari when they showed extra speed and demanded investigations and so (rightfully though), but nobody is raising any questions when a car shows with over a second per lap advantage on all other cars? I wish they would’ve changed the engine specs also for the 2022 rule changes. The current hybrid turbo spec has been dominated by Mercedes since its introduction back in 2014, F1 should’ve changed these for the next car generation to flatten the dominance curve again
Because their gains aren't on the straights. They're killing everyone in the corners. There's nothing in the GPS data traces that show strange behavior from the Mercedes engine. Unlike Ferrari where both Mercedes and Redbull said they were doing things that are not possible under the regulations
I think they couldn’t just change the engine regs that quickly, because the big teams could just spent their way around engine development. Changing the engine on such short notice would result in more Mercedes domination
RD 12 then let’s hope the new regulations of the body design will be enough to mix it up again. I admire Mercedes and what have they done, and I know it’s up to the rest of the field to close the gap, but at the same time it’s getting boring
Shadowboost fair enough
Omar Kishli if it solves the dirty air problem then we’ll at least get good racing, even if a team dominates
Very instructive - and true !
Looking forward to seeing how the merc goes through Maggots & Beckets at silverstone
Meanwhile w the energy drink team...Can’t win in F1? Alright try your best to disqualify all the teams instead of make your car better lol
You talking about rich energy? Lol
No dumbass what teams are literally named after energy drinks...
"Lewis Hamilton 'feels for the fans', claiming Sebastian Vettel dominance is making F1 a turn off" - The Independent 2013
Touché
Rod Rebman Well in the interviews he has clearly said that he was hoping to be challenged, to keep it exciting for fans. But he’s obviously not gonna slow down on purpose
You are CSTC.... I have listened to hours of your other Range Rover channel. Great to hear you on this one ! By the way been watching F1 since 1975, since the sad race of Tom Pryce Kyalami, that many races. I think I missed a race on my wedding day, The next one will probably be my funeral day, but I might sneak out for the last 5 laps.
Merc is also burning oil, can see it after straights. Is that legal
Ferrari is a joke, I have zero confidence they will ever catch merc.
Ferrari has some bad slumps but they always bounce back eventually. It’s just a matter of when
@@squilldx5055 With the amount of money they get they beter be.
Failari
Ferrari can come back, they always have pace, they just need better strategies and more thought over car upgrades
well there is always the covid hand to play out yet... im sure ferrari are looking at all options ;)
Gonna be a loooooong 2 seasons before there is even the slightest chance of someone competing with Merc...💤💤
@Patrick Quinn every team that isn't Mercedes or Racing Point.
@Patrick Quinn obviously a merc fan boy ay???? Where's the sport? Wheres the racing? I'm a fan of the sport and that means I'm interested in every team and open fight and not sucking mercs dick every season. Liberty and fia will be screwed when Lewis retires anyway and take his 20million plus fans with him. Then we'll be left max and rookies to repeat the cycle.
Incorrect.
Ferrari be like "Pfft, prize money. Bitches we get paid for existing"
Wait. Is this guy from tech talk in F1 official youtube channel?
"I lead others to a treasure I cannot possess"
- Mattia Binotto on Mercedes' engine advancements
One always looks better if one can wax poetic about one's failures.
Imagine if Mercedes continues its dominance beyond 2021. F1 would become a snoozefest and lose even more fans.
There's 20 drivers on the grid. They're not all racing for podium. F1 is very competitive in the midfield. But yeah, if you only care about race winners, you'll find this season to be very boring.
@@ShazenVideos F1 is about winning, not fighting for midfield. I, for one, would like my favorite driver or team to win races and championships. If they continue to lose races for, say 7-10 years, it would wear me out at some point.
Would become..... It is a snooze fest whilst ham / Bottas sit rosey and let the car drive itself.
@@ShazenVideos there's a lot of rookie drivers in that 20 and drivers without race wins or podiums.... Only midfield / backboys I'm interested in is Russell, norris, sainz, riccardio, perez. Stroll is OK. Rest of the grid no personalities, inconsistent or arrogant or in it for a hobbie / paycheck.
@@HarshitMathur1994 Well, maybe you chose the wrong sport. Look at the history of F1, there has always been a team dominating and others fighting for midfield points. I am sorry to tell you that it will stay that way. F1 is not about winning the race as whole, F1 is about winning against your rivals.
Don’t forget, that they can also use the horsepower advantage to get extra downforce, especially on slow tracks. They can just set the wings higher, and even the lower top speed is just as fast as other cars.
I noticed that he almost took turn 11 flat out it was crazy
at this point I don't even care about mercedes anymore
They are very far ahead and nobody will defeat them except themselves
When I watch a race I watch every other team except mercedes, because there's no suspense at all, we already know who's going to win anyway, the suspense is what the podium will look like, not who's the first one
if Hamilton is in front on the next corner i already know who is going to win, so i do the same as you and concentrate on the rest of the field fighting for the podium
Me too.. I just pretend that Mercedes is doesn't exist. Just enjoy the race behind the merc.
@@augustooliveira5588 It's been like that for a while. If Hamilton leads after the first corner, he will win.
@Patrick Quinn - That pretense is the only thing that keeps them alive.
i am not sure mercedes engine improved so much, but quite sure the ferrari engine went down. The secret agreement they reached showed that they were clearly illegal last year
Possibly, but judging but the massive leap in performance from both williams and tracing point, I'd wager it's true. Williams has much better quali pace than race pace. Same with tracing point.
Honestly the biggest fights im looking forward to is if Ferrari can improve to contend with Red Bull, and if Tracing Point is able to maintain high performance and challenge as the 2nd best team some weekends as well
at ferrari: "you play stupid games, you win stupid prizes"
As much as I love F1 this Merc dominance for the last 7 years is destroying my love for the sport. I’m sorry but watching Hamilton or Mercedes win every race isn’t a sport anymore
Exactly the same as you, have barely missed a single race since 2013 but for the first time I am turning races off half way through
F1 should vote Hamilton out and the field will seem abit more leveled
@Patrick Quinn Doesn't work like that champ, if genuine fans are losing interest, that means less viewership, less race attendances, lower tv subscriptions, it's all $$$$
Patrick Quinn I’m a Mercedes fan, but I’m not going to spend another $1200 on a grandstand ticket to watch Mercedes win by 60 seconds for a 7th year in a row,
@Patrick Quinn Wouldn't change a thing, it'd be the same with Bottas or Russel or whoever.
I've said this before, I'll say it again: I don't get why the rest of the teams agreed to the freeze in development. They handed Merc two driver and two constructors titles. How can they not have realized this ...
Well that was before the first race, everyone was probably thinking after pre season, "well they seem strong but it can't be that bad"
they would've probably gone bankrupt due to the pandemic if they had to constantly upgrade to power unit to prevent themselves from being lapped 5 times every race
At least all the small teams on the grid.
all teams are in financial trouble right now, other than the top three teams and alpha tauri that is
I think people forgot that Mercedes brought a redesigned engine last year and I believe it was geared towards reliablity, all of the merc teams last year were not particularly quick in a straight. So thus they've had a year to work on the power. They obviously have a lot more power than last year and Ferrari took a step back this year causing a massive performance gap between the two.
I have a question and it might be stupid. But if the rate of fuel that can be used in an engine is limited wouldn’t there be a max hp the engines can reach? So how do they make engines more powerful every year without increasing the afr from the max allowed?
It's easy to say "it's thanks to DAS"
What do you know about Das? Mercedes got the best aerodynamics and Chassis in the New Turbo Era since 2014 that's why they are dominate and unbeatable. The DAS is used to manage Tyres and Tyre wear that's it.... so STFU cause you don't know what u talking about.
@@gospeljrnwoha9448 Mate, did you even read the comment?
@@kuroyami6289 what does DAS got to do with the TITLE of the Video? Like you haven't been Watching F1 or what?? Smh
@@gospeljrnwoha9448 I don't think you understood what the guy was saying. He was actually praising Mercedes saying, "There's much more to it then just relying on DAS to win". Relax, dude.
@@gospeljrnwoha9448... it's in quotes!!! He's not saying it personally, he's commenting that it's easy for the video commentator (and/or other none Mercedes fans) to say that "it's thanks to DAS". I don't think he was in agreement... IJS
Mercedes has been perfecting their concepts since 2017. Their outfit is very stable. Ferrari has been chasing and trying to cut corners to get to the Mercedes performance faster, also is changing heads from season to season, creating the usual feeling of fear of failure. No wonder one is even more dominant then last year and the other is struggling to get to Q3. Ferrari needs to understand that have to restructure for the long term (basically pick the best for the jobs and then let them do it, without pressure or politics) plus they must give time for things to happen, but all I see is every year putting pressure asking for immediate results.
Plus, they have to stop picking the best Italian for the top roles and instead pick the best they have for the role. What i see right now is a Ferrari that wants Italians on the leading roles, the whole "the most Italian Ferrari ever bla bla bla", every team I see this happening failed miserably. And when did Ferrari became dominant? When they had a Frenchman (Todt), an Englishman (Brawn), an Irish (Rory Byrne), around a German (Schumacher). Which when they failed they would protect each other in order to avoid changing any of them and have to start over with a new person. this created stability and confidence they could their job and well. Also made them have room to fail, which made them go further, instead of playing it safe. The results showed up some years later with great effect.
And they had Mr. Luca di Montezemolo looking for a good team. His own diagnosis, a few days ago, is remarkably similar to yours. I agree, Ferrari does not look to be a team since 2005+.
@@AuthenticWaves the biggest change Ferrari needs tbh is a whole restructuring of their management and removing Italian dominance on the top.
@@digantadutta1751 Hmmmm? The top and the rest as well has to be good enough to make the team good. Italian, non Italian, intelligent, AI, or find something suitable in outer space... If origins count it is already a miss.
@@AuthenticWaves sorry if it misrepresented, what I meant was that they should not be revolving around the same Ferrari family/mafia.... I meant anyone skillful and deserving whereever he/she is from.... I feel like these people have put their family business component more which is hindering their success
@@digantadutta1751 Well, I do have the same feeling.
is the guy in the background at 4:57 giving the double finger? 😂
What is the deal with merc and racing point, are they sharing testing data or is that just as illegal as sharing and copying parts?
I believe that most of the performance, via track telemetry, is shared by all teams.
It's sucks for F1 fans but the Mercedes is just a beast. 1 second faster in qualifying... that's ridiculous. You can't close that gap in 1 season. All other teams should just switch resources to 2022 regulations and let Mercedes have this season and next.
As strange as it sounds, that may be the absolute best chance anyone else has- just hope the regulation changes stir the pot enough to make things even again.
I agree, although don't think it will help, since Mercedes can do the same, if not pulling out, such is their advantage.
That's why I was REALLY wanting to see the new cars, NEXT year... so that everyone would be able to see who does what with the new reg's and finally STFU and just watch. In reference to this generation of F1 fans (they seem to not know the history of F1, based on their comments)... IJS
@@BigMic69 When you say history of F1, assume you're talking about other teams having periods of dominance? Such as - since 1988 - McLaren Honda, Williams Renault, Ferrari, Red Bull etc. My problem with that argument, and maybe others, is that never has a team been as dominant for so long, never has money influenced team potential so much - discounting Ferrari (last time a true outsider came close to championship might have been 99, with Jordan?) Never have seasons been so long, cars used to sound better, cars used to look better, tracks used to have more variation. Season performance wasn't so telegraphed, yet we know Mercedes are going to crush it this year and next. Racing was closer, engineers pit wall advice much less. My feeling is that lots of little things, combined with unprecedented Mercedes domination, have made things much less bearable than previously for most people. Added for this season is a political element that people might, or might not, want.
@@JT-ko2ib... I have 3 questions for you before I respond: (1) Are you sure (yes/no)? (2) When did you start watching F1? (3) Who was your 1st favorite driver?
Ferrari dominates the grid...................Mercedes and Red Bull staff: "They are full of tricks...their fuel smells funny...FIA should check them".
Mercedes gives more than 1 second to the grid on qualifying, and shows blue smoke.................Red Bull staff and FIA: "Ok...Seems legal to me".
I mean find a problem with it...Mercedes doesn’t break the rules because it doesn’t have the FIA in its back pocket
The blue smoke is genuinely just because of it often being overfilled with oil. Mercedes don't need to break the rules either because they've just got fantastic people.
because its legal. you ferrari fan boys. ferrari is fast as heck last year, and why they didnt win?
Any team can lodge a complaint at any time, or if they wish not to, they can go to the FIA and ask for a rule clarification around blue smoke (or whatever).
In my time following F1 I have not seen a car that is quickest in qual, race, in the slow, med & fast corners and the straights. The thing is a beast.
This when the regs have hardly changed since last year.
Normally there is some compromise, so maybe trade straight line for more downforce. Corner speed for tyre wear.
Got a "Red Bull gives you wings" ad before this video. No coincidence I guess..
After Monza last year, apparently Lewis went straight to Brixworth to see Andy Cowell to push for more power!! It worked!!
People say: "Cheaters never prosper". Ferrari bit the bullet and so will others, that will try to do so
My team ferrari is quite far behind..yet i m excited to see how they ll improve and make good of this bleak time
I can see them being even more dominant at Silverstone.
Whatever Mecedes does is legal, but when other teams find loopholes, FIA BANS
Is that why DAS is banned from next year?! )) The same happened with Ferrari engine. They kept it for 2019 but not this year
You are really stupid. If you knew anything of any season you would know that that statement is so insanely false
Hamilton's driving is so smooth around the last race compared to others fighting the wheel for better control.
Merc has got the suspension and aero right to fit Hamilton's style. It has improved more than their engine IMHO. Their engine was always been best out of the others.
I read comment somewhere, ' Ferrari is legend killer' i don't know how true it is but it sure defines their season
so it has affected honda too renault have improved and merc only with all thier engine bumming
They got lapped that’s where Ferrari are at the moment.
Hamilton is the best ever driver is the best ever car. Is exciting to watch him because you know he is pushing the car to its limits and to see now the limits of the care is extraordinary is lovely to watch
I love Hamilton but I've watched him push the car for years now and the sport is dying , mercedes is destroying half of the soul of F1 the elite and cutting edge technology of F1 is still there and being pushed to the limit butt F1 as the pinnacle of Motorsport and racing is dying being slowly destroyed by mercedes sure red bull and Ferrari could challenge mercedes with their budgets if they hadn't been so poorly run but that leaves 7 teams who can achieve nothing in terms of spending , to me whilst I love Hamilton I hate F1 now I watched the race as a Hamilton fan and I was so bored I don't even cheer anymore when he wins 2021 can't come soon enough for the cost cap
Agreed but his black lives matter agenda is bullshit his job is to be a racing driver and not be an evangelist for this if he wants to do that he should not get upset at fia for not encouraging his kneeling pre race
@SaVior R each to there own
Well, Ferrari may be having their troubles on and off-track this season, and Red Bull too, to a lesser degree at least, but you can only beat what's in front of you.
Kudos to Mercedes - I never thought they could improve this much on the PU side particularly, as the law of diminishing returns always hits the ones at the top end the most, but they have come back with an answer comprehensively.
It's not their fault that the others have run into troubles one way or another this year.
Merc as always got that speed they was just waiting to see what the reds was going to bring to the table for 2020