Is the Ferrari F2012 The Worst Car Ever to Challenge for a Title?
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- The 2012 season to many fans is easily one of the best in F1's history, an unpredictable and chaotic beginning to the season and a close title battle that went right down to the wire, it had everything. However, one of the most memorable things from that year also was the tumultuous Ferrari F2012 that somehow went from qualifying 1.5 seconds off pole in the first race to coming just 3 points short of the title. It's been described as one of the worst cars to ever fight for a title but how bad was it really, and was it actually the worst car ever to get to a title decider?
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That's why Fernando has such a big neck, from carrying that hunk of crap on his shoulders for a whole season.
Are you talking about massa or the car?
@@apocalimp2401 looooool
@@apocalimp2401 oof 😅😅😅
Now that is a comment worth of a championship!
😂😂
the sad part is how new "fans" don't understand the effort fernando put in that 2012 season and how great of a driver he is.
I just follow the sport since season 2018 so I count myself as a new fan. I personally think alonso is a very talented and very passionate driver. That combination makes him a strong pilot but also one of the worst nightmares for a team that does not manage to fullfill or even exceed alonsos expectations. Sure he delivers. every. single. time. But he is not good at being a team leader nor creating a healthy environment that rewards taking risks for a huge benefit. And people often underestimate the importance of such skills for a sucessfull f1 team.
@@invalid8774 thats just plain stupid. Why do you think both McLaren and Renault signed him again? All that "he's not a team player" is bs
@@javi3266 He actually got a point look at his previous teammates, Fisichella, Hamilton, Massa, Piquet jr those didn’t got along well with Alonso but at least... McLaren really fucked up their car between 2015 and the 2018 sorry about my Frenglish but he should also had done a better job then as a 2 time champion and 4 time vice champion
I wish he was a better team player. He’s a good driver but he’s got a crap personality.
@@kyleslater5245 that’s simply not true, he’s been signed by renault 3 times now, and mclaren twice, all that “crap personality” and “bad team player” was really dumb, all his colleagues besides the other driver all loved him, his engineer in ferrari even followed him to mclaren
After the German gp, Alonso was leading the championship while Massa was not even in the top 10 in the championship
After the 2009 Hungary crash massa was never the same
@@marcoroberts9462 facts
Alonso is the best. 2012 season is the clearest demonstration about it. Facts.
@@michaelvilardo hopefully We get the old Alonso back and alpine can give him good car
@@HumanSlayer that would be a dream. I really hope to see Fernando where he deserves.
I rate higher Alonso in 2012 than in his worldchampionships
I see why but being an alonso fan it just hurt worse knowing he was so good and was held back by yet another shit car. And its not like it got better after that for him.
Yup. Absolutely in agreement.
I agree. vettel didnt deserve to win the 2010 and 2012 championships.
@@prisonermonkeys8613 I would say that Vettel deserved them, but Alonso deserved them more
@@prisonermonkeys8613 both of them deserved it ngl but knowing Alonso tried so hard to reach that level that title is definitely his if Ferrari gave him a much competitive car
Alonso truly gave his all, and I believe that season displayed his greatness as one of the best drivers of all time.
He was about to be champion, but Grosjean accident in Spa was the beginning of the end of the dream of winning a Championship in Ferrari
@Schuka Metin2 Lol if you are salty about Raikkonen losing the 2005 championship blame McLaren, they built a shit car that blew up all the time. I don't get why people get salty about Alonso's 2005 championship what was he supposed to do? Push Kimi's broken car over the line like in that Pixar movie?
@Schuka Metin2you're right, they're all facts
"Alonso truly" hahahaha k im such a dumb xd
@Schuka Metin2 Yes true
The best season by a driver that didn’t win the world title
Yeah I would rank Massa as number 2, he was sooo close
I mean it was brilliant but Moss in '58 was also something else.
@@hamirthapar6788 His 61 season was even better. He single handedly beat the dominant ferraris at Monaco and Nurburgring in a 2 year old Lotus.
Ronnie Peterson has multiple aswell
@@hamirthapar6788 lol how can you say things like this as if you were there to watch it
I think the saddest part of Alonsos career arent the losses in 2010 and 2012 but the fact that he was never able to redeem himself for them
Being a fan is hard
@@Bearical agreed
2010 was fully deserved but 2012 tho damn he should’ve won
aston martin
2023 has come
For me, Alonso in 2012 was the single greatest drive by a driver over a season in the history of F1. Greater than Prost in 1990, Lauda in 1976, Schumacher in 2000, Hamilton in 2018, Senna in 1991, Mansell 1992 etc. He almost won in a car that was 4th quickest over the course of the season, and was regularly 5th/6th quickest in the 1st half of the season.
Shumacher 2002 or 1998 you want did
You shouldn’t award greatest drive by a driver over a season if they didn’t win
@@raheem201231 why not? That's a dumb as fuck comment
@@raheem201231 that is really dumb wow
What about Vettel in 2013? That was surely one of the greatest performances by a driver ever, especially in the second part of the season.
Alonso, Legend. Had he won, it would have been the championship of legends, talked about in the corridors of racing for all eternity. And he was oh so close.
He was close to become the best driver in history.
Had he won that would have been the best championship of all time.
thanks to grosjean in belgium
@@ignls8809 I mean, its still one of the best seasons ever and alonso played and still plays the biggest role for it
@@ignls8809 Alonso had luck many times, he won two races when Vettel suffered engine failure .
hell yes, he lost it and they still talk about it a decade later... Immagine if he would have won it.
Not gonna lie I actually dig the looks of that car in combination with Alonso's helmet
Same
I like the sound of the f2012
@@hankfields1951 🤤🤤🤤👍🏻
Me too, some how watching him in it fighting his heard out maked the car lovelt for me. I didnt mind the nose, loved the colors and his helmet. The best seasson ever.
I found the 2010-2011 ferrari especially good with massa's lime helmut, so I love mick Schumacher's helmut as well
Alonso's Greatness made that car look decent
No. He underperformed in quali as Pat Fry said and choked a 40 point lead.
@@nuvolari6668 ok mr drive to survive fan
@@nuvolari6668 th-cam.com/video/126wGMgDcpU/w-d-xo.html Yes? Alonso made the car much better than it was
@@nuvolari6668 yes you are kimi fan but is it necessary to hate someone because you love any other driver
@@nuvolari6668 to be fair if he wasn’t crashed out by grosjean he would have probably won the title.
It just shows how talented Fernando Alonso truly was. A rare example of the driver outperforming the car
he’s still got it. el plan 2022
@@AlexMitoMedia For real, dude was holding back Lewis hamilton in the 6th slowest car on old hard tyres for 11 laps, smh
@@AlexMitoMediaEl Plan 2.0 in 2023
This video should be titled "Why Alonso is as good as everyone says"
*better
Overrated. The car wasn't that bad if it can challenge for the title until the last GP. Massa was just not having it. If another driver were put aside Alonso, he would match Alonso.
@@salmanfarruz ok so you are telling me Massa is shit? Lol this guys nearly best Hamilton, he is top notch
@@jolyonpalmer4527 You really think that? Mclaren 08 was a tad bit slower than Ferrari 08. Kimi was leading the championship till July and was looking solid when the whole Santander controversy went down... Ferrari had to prioritize Massa over Kimi because they wanted the Santander money and were forced to replace Kimi with Alonso.
no, why vettels championships mean nothing and they are all luck
Thank you to the people that pointed this out, the table at 15:20 has two errors on it, Red Bull actually had 7 wins with 5 for Vettel and 2 for Webber. Plus Jenson had one pole for McLaren making it Lewis 7 and Jenson 1.
A for effort but 5 plus 2 is 7 lol. No worries mate love all of your videos
2 + 5 = 8 because 2=1
@@TakodaTGL indeed
The 2003 McLaren was worse than the F2012. Kimi performed a miracle in a ONE YEAR OLD CAR in 2003.
Looks like no 5 in a ferrari is a unlucky number
I am pretty certain alonso if he had finished the belgian and japanese grand prixs that he would have won the title
Not even that, alonso would have only had to finish 7th in either races to take the title by ONE point.
Case in point... If Vettel didn't DNF from the lead in Valencia (which was given to Alonso in the first place), or if he didn't receive a puncture from a backmarker in Malaysia that put him out of the points, if he also didn't DNF in Monza from 4th place and if he wasn't crashed into in Brazil... You have to look at both sides. And also his ridiculous 25 second penalty in Germany.
Plus, in Japan, Alonso was kind of at fault in that incident. He was unlucky in Belgium yes, but the likelyhood of him winning that race was quite hard. The McLaren was really on a league of it's own that race with Button and Vettel himself catapulted from 11th to 2nd.
Also Hamilton himself retired from the lead like 3 or 4x that season and had his pit-stops screwed in quite a few races.
Under normal circumstances, this would've been a Hamilton vs Vettel fight.
Not taking away credit from Alonso, he was a monster, best driver in that season for sure. But as Aldas stated in the video, and it's a fact, the Ferrari had 0 RELIABILITY issues, and also had very good tyre wear compared to McLaren and Red Bull for some reason, and contrary to what we see these days, Ferrari a lot of the time nailed their strategys... AND, Massa was LITERALLY used as a wingman that whole season. Ferrari even made him have a gearbox failure so that he could get a grid penalty to make Alonso get another place higher up on the grid.
And... of course... The competitiveness of the cars that whole season. The cars were actually similar to each other in pace in a lot of races. Even in Brazil, Hulkenburg in a Force India was actually having MORE PACE than BOTH McLarens... Perez in Malaysia finished 2nd and had the best pace of that race. Maldonnado winning in a Williams, Rosberg winning with his Mercedes. Lotus with their very good package as well taking a lot of times points away from McLaren and Red Bull.
There were a ton more circumstances involved that made Alonso fight for the title. Him being on top of his form was probably the biggest reason, yes, but it wasn't the only one. This sport is still a team game. If your pit crew, strategists, mechanics, team principal, screw up, it affects the championship.
@@grimm6jack those DNFs were really costly and unfortunate fo r Hamilton that year. Denied him at least 50 points and should’ve been a championship contender
@@grimm6jack
Surely they had to be a lot of things involved to fight with a car that in that couldn't even make q3 in the beginning of the season and was overall maximum the 4th fastest car for the title.
But in terms of luck Alonso even had a disatvantage compared to Vettel. Vettel got a penalty in Italy. He probablly wouldn't have scored any points there.
Alonso would have easily won in Italy without the mechanical problem in Qualifying
In Canada Ferrari threw away a win for Alonso with the wrong Strategy.
In Monaco Ferrari could have made Massa stay out to block Vettel and Vettel wouldn't have gained any position.
And in Brazil Vettel turned into Senna und was lucky that nobody drove into his car.
In addition to that Vettel was the one profiting from Hamilton DNFs (like Singapur)
@@alexhaas2185 Vettel turning into Senna!? It was Senna who hit Vettel.
In 2012 I had a very hard time, following my first breakup. I didn't know how to move on.
As a Alonso Fan, F1 was the only thing that kept me up and made me smile.
Seeing him fighting with that crappy car till the very last race was satisfying.
I remember celebrating his Valencia win like nothing else at the time, being so angry after his spa crash and was basically in tears when he lost that insane Brazil finale.
He showed me how to fight and never give up. What a driver, what a role model.
I was widowed along with our 4 1/2 yr old daughter 8 years previous and your words and our reactions were absolutely identical. Thanks for sharing and thanks to Nando.
Good days to you brother.
The congratulations message sent by Fernando's Engineer after his win at Malaysia will always remain one of the most beautiful moment in F1 for me, his tears of joy and showcasing the ferrari passion is very wholesome to watch. I'm a huge ferrari fans since childhood due to michael early 2000s which was when i started watching F1. PS: this might be controversial but i really like the F2012, the step nose kinda give it a distinguish look with the simple yet good looking italian esque livery. Great video Aldas cheers.
It looks cool af
I agree it’s beautiful
Alonso was able to drive the truck to compete against Vettel in a extremely quick Red Bull, imagine if Alonso drove the red bull.
He'd be unstoppable
Lmao Vettel would have got sh*t on so hard,just like all the last years once he didnt have the fastest car by far
@@jav1843 2018?
If Alonso had the red bull that year he would have won the title 2 races before the season ended
Actually, the cars weren't as different as you may think. Red Bull was the 2nd fastest and Ferrari was 4th fastest. Notice how McLaren has more wins. I still think Fernando's drive was the greatest of the season but anyone with a McLaren or a Lotus could have won against Seb had they been good enough. You have to remember that Red Bull had lots of reliability issues. If Ferrari had managed to get their car to McLaren's level, Fernando would have got the title as easily as Seb did in 2013 imo.
Me who just signed with Ferrari in 2012 career mode
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"Mistakes make you stronger"
I think you are actually very buff irl
@@cresbalundo8845 HAH no! I'm a Skinny 14 year old who can only do 50 push ups max at one go
@@zethyuen8859 Damn im a bit fat and big dude in general and can barely do 25 push ups in one go lol
@@adrianramos9644 if you really are fat, 25 push ups is really good.
This video should be called, How Alonso didn’t break his back during this season lmao
Yes definitely imo. Fernando worked wonders in that car. Almost flawless season. For me the greatest season by any driver ever that I have watched and I have watched all seasons from 1998
Vettel in 2013 and shumacher in 2004 were better imo
@@thebarcaboardroom406 those were dominant cars, like merc 2020
But they still set records that the "goat" hamilton is yet to come close to.
Rosberg 82 and Piquet 83 actually WON the title in worse cars.
Williams 82 finished 4th in the constructors and in 83 Bramham were 3rd.
These are the only times EVER a world champion has not had a car finishing in the top 2 in the constructors
@@nickwall2497 I think the 1983 Branham , by the last few races of the season, was the best car of the year. Their race pace was unbelievable
But in all seriousness. Not only do I think that Alonso's performance in 2012 was his greatest seasion, it's the best performance I've seen from any driver since I started watching in 1996!
Yes on that one good buddy, since 1987 for me.
Alonso 2012 is the best F1 season of a driver we will ever see
Imagine if Lando or Ferrari was fighting for the championship against Max and Lewis until the last race in 2021 season.
That's what Fernando did in 2012 with the F2012.
Yeah but that Ferrari was never a 2nd best car....not even 3rd best in half the season
@@souldevil6997 Yup, Lotus had 3 iterations of a blown diffuser, the last being forward facing hidden behind the barge boards and was the best solution that season. With Kimi, Schuf(7), Nando(2), SEb(2), JB, LH, that is
14 WDC's present on the grid who all but Schuf (sad as first Merc win would have been the appropriate end) won a race in 2012. A podium in Spa would have sealed his 3rd title by the end, no doubt.
Not an Alonso fan, But his 2012 drive was one of the greatest drives ever in F1 history. At least from when I started to watch (since 2004).
Schumi 2002 was also pretty damn epic
Kimi losing by only two points in a year old car was also the stuff of legends
I'd love for you to do a 180 version of this and make a video on the best car not to win a championship.
That could be a cool idea. Of the top of my head I'd say the 2005 and 2012 McLaren, and 2018 Ferrari would be up there for me as well
@@Aldas001 1976 Ferrari
1991 Williams, 1982 Renault, 1978 Brabham ‘fan car’, 1982 Ferrari, 2009 Red Bull
@@Aldas001 Oh for sure! The McLarens in those years were super unreliable. Arguably cost Kimi and Lewis an extra title each and went on to leave the team the following year or two later.
On top of all the other cars mentioned in the replies, the 1999 and 2006 Ferrari are worthy mentions also. We could have been looking at Schumi having an 8th world title rather than the 7th titles he has.
@@Aldas001 yeap, that shows how many championship mclaren have miss by unreliabilty or bad judgment. 2007 mclaren, another clear one.
Alonso a legend what he did with that car 💪🏿 he gave his max
This video almost makes me cry... It truly shows Alonso's greatness. Such a big shame that title slipped from his fingers.
Can you do a 2012 f1 season review, race by race?
And maybe later do more season reviews of interesting seasons in f1.
th-cam.com/video/h0m30qw4g6o/w-d-xo.html
Here you go
@@SkodaYetiFan Thanks
Just for we to have an idea of how good was Alonso that year,after Spain,Ferrari had 63 points on the constructors championship,61 of them scored by Fernando Alonso
2012 was more like a touring car season in the sense that you had to watch the whole season review to understand how the season played out and how Alonso even managed to maintain a title challenge over red bull and McLaren
Well, first of all the RB8 was the worst car that won a title in the 2010s and the McLaren was unreliable. That Ferrari was a solid car.
@@saiyerugara9038 by what stretch of your imagination was the rb8 the worst car of the 2010’s? it was only by fortune that no one seemed to want to win a race in 2012 that ferrari was ever in that position to begin with
@@CHERN0BYLCH1LD I didn't say the worst car of the 2010s; I said the worst championship-winning car of the 2010s which it was.
@@saiyerugara9038 i stand by it, the rb8 was far from the worst championship winning car, if that ferrari won it would have been the worst by a comfortable margin, Alonso basically carried that car through 2012, arguably the lotus was probably out right faster than the ferrari in the right hands
@@CHERN0BYLCH1LD It was the worst championship-winning car of the 2010s. The RB6 was better as well as the W09 and W08 from Mercedes.
I've said this before and I'll say it again. Michael Schumacher, Ayrton Senna and Lewis Hamilton are 3 of the greatest drivers ever when you combine all aspects of F1. However when you look at driving skills alone, nobody in the history of the sport holds a candle to Fernando Alonso
Jim Clark
Hmm hamilton for me is not top3. Fangio, Schumacher, ayrton senna
Alonso is superior to compare Hamilton
@@tatum6727 Yes,we saw in 2007
@@BladeRunner031 yes after 2008 there was no f1 till the hybrid engines came. Right..?
Alonso was a beast no doubt about it
One of the best F1 sessions I remember, by the way, I was in Valencia GP and Alonso stopped in front of our stands (I'm Spanish), was an incredible race. And for me, an injustice that in the end he don't wins the championship, he really deserved it.
I just can’t wait for Ferrari to get their head back in the game and finally get back to winning races
In 2022 they’ll be winning again
But this year probably not, they’ll need some luck
@@SamuelSantos_ no
No,I seriously hope it is a long long time before they win again,they don't deserve it.
@@filipposstavro1233 why? Every team deserves to win.
Look at how much work they did to come back to be the 3rd best car this year.
That’s dedication.
@@SamuelSantos_ *happy Baku noises*
There is a mistake in 15:22 Webber won 2 races, Monaco and Silverstone
vettel won 5 races
@@magnussencube yeah
Glad someone else noticed this
@@georgeprice5368 vettel also won 5
@@robleurni8420 and Button took pole in Belgium
No one has this Never Give up mentality like Alonso, he want‘s to keep going no mater the Situation. Strongest Spirit in F1 ther is 💪🏼🇪🇸🏁
:D
Strongest GP2 engine spirit in F1
@Wind Rose Given he failed to win championships and was driving a car with barely any power.. I wouldn't either.
2012 Hurt Alonso m8.
He should have won.. I still think Grosjean should have been given a race ban for that bs he did in Belgium.
This video has made me so much more excited for Alonso to return
Amazing video, thank you!
And remember: Fernando is the best driver, 2012 season is the clearest demonstration.
Wow, that Australia quali was even worse than this year... Never watched this season live and I really missed out!
Honestly, that was the best Year for Fernando in terms of his skills! No Driver can do that! Max can come close, but can't beat Alonso! Lewis was not even considered!
The question that immediatly popped into my head again while watching this video:
How good was Felipe Massa in his prime?
I think that after his accident in Hungary in 2009, he never stepped up to the form he had shown before...
he always seemed underwhelming to me , compared to the best , inconsistent enough to lose titles just off the back of his driving , iirc that might've just been the farari being harder to drive though
He was okay. Probably similar to Barrichello, Webber and Bottas I.e. very good number 2 not quite a number 1.
@@Marcusjnmc look at 2008. He was clearly a great driver, losing the championship in the last corner because Glock was going slowly. He showed he has What it took to beat the best drivers so I'd say he was good
He was stilla decent druver
Help me step-nose. Im stuck
What are you doing, step-nose?
This is so wrong.
@@ashutoshuniyal198 not its not
Oh dear...
F1 2014
If you combined the diffrent wins and very close title fight of 2012,and the crazy calender and unpredictability of 2020,then we'll have THE greatest F1 season ever.
2012 was more unpredictable than 2020
@@Willie_Pete_Was_Here i think he was talking of unpredictability as in the RNG
That has a name: the 2021 season.
@@RedTsarOldChannel-INACTIVE damn ur right😭
This and the 2006 season cemented Alonso’s status as a legend - and one of the 3 greats (with Lewis and Michael) of the century so far.
We have never seen Lewis ALMOST win a world championship with an inferior car... Schumacher? YES. Alonso? YES.
@@georgegurdjieffsgrandson9592 yes mclaren 08 when he schooled shitkonen and Massa. Alonso praises and sees Hamilton as a better driver compared to Vettel
@@AZBCDEE was it worse? It had better reliability and McLaren operated better as a team, plus even Heikki won and took poles.
@@AZBCDEE hi hater
@@samyakjain4302 it's Sparksly, one of Alonso's biggest haters on this platform.
2012 season should be renamed as Alonso season..... The way he drove that ferrari was bloody awesome... 💓😍
Fernando in 2012, Kimi in 2003 and Vettel in 2017 rank as the 3 greatest seasons that didn't result in a championship
Schumacher in 2006 and alonso in 2010
It might be an unpopular one but I think 2017 might be Vettel's best season in his career. It is the only season that he was the underdog in a close title fight and he actually did better than what the final standings show. He drove with good consistency and without mistakes. The luck and reliability of the machine were the deciding factors in the end but if he didn't suffer from them we would see a title decider. 2011 and 2013 are statistically his best seasons but he just needed to beat Webber. Considering he barely won 2010 and 2012 and his gap to Webber wasn't as big as their other seasons together, no need to say they weren't impressive season. 2018 is a total failure from him, despite having an equal car this time, he was far from his 17 level and made many mistakes. 2008 is also very impressive but doing great in midfield is not comparable to a title challenge.
@@babw I'd argue 2015 was even better still. Stayed in contention for most of the season and very very nearly beat Rosberg in a car that wasn't even on the same planet as the Merc
@@robertharrington703 Yes, it is also very strong. Also, he basically matched Alonso's last season in terms of how they outperformed Kimi.
Schumacher 1996,1997,1998 and 2006 where all better than Vettels choking in 2017. Great season?? by causing crashes and getting the penalty in Baku. He lost it.
I feel so sorry for Alonso, I think that he is one of the best drivers ever, but just had bad luck with the teams and cars
The nostalgia makes me like this car :/
Exactly how i feel too
This is stunningly high quality analysis. Fantastic work. This is among the best Motorsport channels on TH-cam.
"Even the Likes of Mercedes and Williams were winning" well thats Something we havent heared in a Long time
14:39 actually he started 11th. I still remember that race, it's still one of the most beautiful ones I've seen in many years of F1. Great video!👍
yes! valencia 12 was beautiful, that restart and the grosjean overtake... *-*
The 2012 season sums up how Alonso is the greatest driver on the grid
well 2005 and 2006 he didn't have the fastest car and he won. 2010 it went to do a decider and he didn't have the fastest car. 2007 he finished 2nd by 1 point. he's proven time and time again he's much much better than what the stats say. so many f1 journalists these days weren't around to see vintage alonso. they only know alonso in mclaren so they don't have a clue how good he is. they only know hamilton in a total dominant car.
Let's be real alonso carried that car
I live in the U.S. but I was a fan of F1 from 2007, this was the first season I watched in its entirety and what a treat it was. Have to say Kimi was my favorite but watching Alonso battle in Brazil was amazing in the most literal sense of the word.
Fernando Alonso determination is unbelievable, he is like the Nadal of F1. Super emotional, utterly determined, speaks out his mind and above all utter consistent
i think alonso 2012 was one of the best individual driver seasons ever, nobody else could have done what he did
Fernando Alonso is the absolute best at doing incredible things that shouldn’t be possible in his car consistently and he is hands down a top 5 driver
I remember watch 2012 season race by race with full of hope. Me as Fernando fans that know how bad the car and how fast Seb are was full of joy. Specially after Valencia. Then Spa and Suzuka happening. 2012 sure was a bittersweet season for me.
Im an spanish f1 fan as you can guess. And i can not be more gratefull to you, just for making such a sincere video (and not been spanish... ) explaining just, what good this simple man, is. It's not going to change my life or nothing else but seen this man fulfilling his dreams, which i as a motorsports fan shere, it just magic, and watching that the people see who this driver really is, not the bullbrown they sell, is like i said, gratefull.
Great video! The only reliability issue that Ferrari had was a suspension issue during Monza qualifying on Alonso's car. Without that issue he could have taken pole position, because that Ferrari suited prettt well that track. So sad and hearthbreaking that Fernando didn't win that title...
A 0.50 cent part of the spring broke. Yes I found it amazing that a 0.50 cent piece makes it on to an F1 car
If Nando finished the job, it would've easily been the biggest upset in racing history. It wasn't a Ferrari, it was a red truck with a prancing horse on it. Alonso will likely never get his due as he's only a 2-time champ, but he's one of the absolute best drivers in history.
I remember the issue of F1 Racing magazine that year in which they gave their 'end of season awards' and for 'Car of the Year,' their panel gave it to the Red Bull RB8 but the F2012 got an honourable mention for "its ability to take an Alonso pasting."
8 out of 12 F1 team bosses voted Fernando Alonso the 'Driver of the Year' for 2012 (alo also won it in 2010) with a 72 point margin win. the largest margin since the award started in the 80s
I've always wondered how Kubica would have performed in this car had he been part of Ferrari's driver lineup that year.
Alonso would have destroyed him. Kubica was overrated.
@@rupertpupkin9630 how he was overrated? Yeah alonso would destroy him but how kubica was overrated? Explain
@@rupertpupkin9630 one of the most overrated drivers ever imo
@@1pfuller you’re nuts, he was easily capable of winning a title if he didn’t have his accident
@@adammarjanovic "easily capable" you say lol 🤦♂️
2012 Alonso was one of the greatest drivers ever
No reliability issues, meanwhile McLaren basically had an issue with every race from a crap pit stop or car breaking down.
@@samp3180 at least McLaren is looking decent this year so far
It just goes to show how crazy good alonso is ( or at least was, we will find out)
Madness!
have you found out yet
He still is
How about the 1999 Jordan? Irvine screwed it up and Hakkinen ha d a mixed year. This somehow kept Frentzen in the title fight for a long time
If Frentzen hadn't retire on Nurburgring, he would have real chances of winning the '99 title for sure. The car was good enough to capitalise the errors made by McLaren and Ferrari.
-He and his race engineer (Sam Michael) made a silly error on that race, after the pitstop Sam didn't told Frentzen about disabling the anti-stall system and the car lose drive on the exit.
Heinz though it was an hydraulic or electrical problem and retired, but disabling the system itself would have get things back to normal. They were under a lot of pressure.
-Now that's a sad history...
Loved the vid! Didn't Alonso say about a year ago that the stare at the Brazilian GP in 2012 was because he was looking at Massa who seemed to be distraught?
Yes! He said that in an interview for the F1 podcast. He was looking at Massa who was in tears because of the podium he managed to get. It had nothing to do with Vettel's title winning. Alonso probably already knew he had lost the championship by that point because his team would have told him through the radio right after they crossed the finish line.
This season showed me why Alonso was and still is best driver of this generation....
The only he lacked is patience.... If he was more patience he would have been atleast a 5 time world champion...
But anyway for me he is and will always be a king...
I personally disagree with 17:08
Had it been capable of the "odd win there and there", Massa would have got more podiums, but still would never come close to a win. Alonso was the one capable of those wins.
I think that an underrated car that season was the Lotus, they had some double podiums, two if I recall correctly, in Bahrain and Hungary, with drivers like Kimi and Romain who were just returning to the sport, so I doubt they were at their best.
That F2012 was the 4th best car overall in my opinion.
Nah Kimi was on it that season, wasn't he also in the title fight?
I mean, kinda? He dropped out of if after Abu Dhabi with still two more races to go, and he won that race.
Although finishing 74 points off Sebastian is kind of an achievement in itself.
kimi turned from a once in a decade talent to an average midfield driver after he left...
alonso is a very good driver, always has been. he truly deserved the title that year, and does deserve more even now.
I like the step-nose......probably my favorite look.
Step nose I'm stuck
@@leoarevalo6786step nose I'm stuck in the barrier again, help.
The fact that by the end of the season they only managed to be the 4th fastest car just inching out Sauber really shows how the other factors (driver, reliability, strategy) really saved Ferrari
You might already know this but Alonso revealed that in that famed shot he was actually starring at Massa and concerned as he (Massa) was very emotional and crying after getting out of the car.
As was briefly mentioned, reliability was a huge factor that carried that car through the season. Alonso didn't have a single issue all season, whereas the fastest car of that season, the McLaren, had a number of issues. The Red Bull was especially hit by poor reliability, with Seb alone: Obviously there was the alternator failure in Valencia which cost 32 points alone, but there were so many throughout the whole season:
Australia - KERS failure in Qualifying
Malaysia - No radio
Monza - another retirement due to alternator failure
Abu Dhabi - fuel pump failure leading to DSQ from Qualifying and pitlane start
Brazil - No radio leading to multiple ruined pitstops and no communication on weather / how to deal with the damage
Okk but nando in that redbull would not had allowed someone to be that close in championship...😂
In my view, it wasn't the worst, if Alonso drove it to three wins and multiple podiums(especially during the second half of the season, as you've said). Largely because of Alonso's consistently excellent driving skills, Ferrari were able to take the fight to Red Bull and McLaren, even with a slower car.
one of the greatest solo performances in f1 history i was never an alonso fan but ever since he joined ferrari and won his first race in bahrain he was my hero combine that with the fact that the F10 was one of the most beautiful cars of that era
Alonso made the biggest miracle i've ever seen in F1. What a man he is, pure legend
10 years this year and still hurts he didn't reach the tittle... He deserved it.
That's one of the reasons i started lose faith in F1 during those years... This decade was very unfair for certain drivers, and we lack of competition very often. You know at the start of the year who is gonna take the championship and that says nothin good for F1.
Yeah, alonso is a god.
Then why didn't he end up like Stewart, Lauda, Prost, Senna and Hamilton - in the best car??
The cream always rises to the top. Sooner or later.
Gods also don't whine when the car is no good.
@@paulallen8109 Hard to tell since your probably beloved driver has been always in a good car.
You can still be a fan of a driver, without hating on others.
Alonso's 2012 season was insane, a true proof of how good he actually is, he is among the greatest ever.
@@paulallen8109 In all fairness, quite a many drivers complain about their car. Bad or not. Lewis too, especially in his younger days.
Fernando also never really had a dominant car. The R25 might have been his best but even then then the title fight with Kimi was very fierce.
@@paulallen8109 Alonso never had the best car in his hole career and it still won 2 titles
Overrated. The car wasn't that bad if it can challenge for the title until the last GP. Massa was just not having it. If another driver were put aside Alonso, he would match Alonso.
Bad cars taken to title deciders: 1997-1998 Ferrari, 2003 mclaren, 1986 mclaren, 2012 Ferrari
Rosberg 82 and Piquet 83 actually WON the title in worse cars.
Williams 82 finished 4th in the constructors and in 83 Bramham were 3rd.
These are the only times EVER a world champion has not had a car finishing in the top 2 in the constructors
Tbh i would say that the 2003 McLaren was actually faster than the Ferrari, but it had massive reliability issues that made Kimi lose that year
@@FoggyNBS Exactly Mclaren was faster than Ferrari due to Michelin tyres
The 03 McLaren is a weird one, I wouldn't necessarily say it's a "bad car". Kimi just had a strange season only winning one race and coming 2nd 7 times and getting unlucky with some DNF's. But still mega to get it to a title decider.
There was the 1981 Ligier too, it only finished fourth in the contructors’ but Jacques Laffite fought for the title until the final race in it (he also scored 100% of the team’s points)
Gosh let's hope Alonso performs anywhere near this level in 2021, it's gonna be pure gold
That was one of the best seasons ever, I especially remember the European Grand Prix in Valencia, one of the best races ever
insert Alonso Brazil gif.. you know which one im talking about
When she doesnt text you back
In my opinion, 2012 season was so exciting. Since 2003, when I was a little boy, ALO is my fav Formula 1 driver. I am his BIG fan and supporter. I could not imagine, that Alonso can fight for a championship driving terrible Ferrari F2012. I think, he was right, when he said, that he is not the best Formula 1 driver in the history, but he thinks, that he his rate should to be 9,5/10. For me, he is a true champ of the 2012 season.
So happy to see the man, the beast finally in a competitive car after 10 years
What a stunning season for Nando!!
He drove like a man possessed!
I truly wish he won the title... He absolutely deserved to!
Ferrari should be ashamed of its pathetic technical (prowess!) in designing a race winning car... They basically tortured Nando from 2010 to 2014, providing him with incompetent cars each season.
What a disgrace.
From the depths of my heart, I wish he has two good back to back seasons with Alpine now. He deserves many more podiums and wins. Who knows if he can challenge for the title in 2022 if gets a more than decent car? 🙂🤞🏼
Great video bro. Honestly I loved the step noses/platypus noses for some reason, especially on the Mercedes and the Lotus! But gee whiz that Ferrari was an absolute dog of a car, Fernando really did amazing things that season! 🙌🏽
Just occurred to me if Jenson or Lewis didn't take off so many wins from each other one of em would be champions
Not really how it works. They also took off points from their rivals, so it wouldn't have made a difference.
I remember getting used to the nose was easy, getting used to the new overall shape of the cars with the addition of the halo took a while, but I'm glad we're used to it now, for the better of the sport.
In my opinion the f2012 didn’t look bad at all and in my opinion Fernando and Ferrari would have deserved to win that title. Clearly qualifying performance wasn’t great but Fernando’s race pace and the car’s reliability were phenomenal. The crash in Spa indeed ruined their season.
You can’t say they didn’t deserve to fight for the title only because of performance and “luck” at the beginning of the season. It’s like saying Hamilton didn’t deserve his 2008 title or Kimi his 2007 title because they also were lucky at some point in the season.
In conclusion, yes the f2012 had a bad start, yes it wasn’t the most performing car but Fernando and the team did everything they could and were able to fight for the championship and they would have deserved to win the title.
Great video! You got one thing wrong, Button got one pole in Belgian. IMO, Alonso was the best driver that year followed closely by Hamilton. Lewis could've easliy been champion that year had it not been for reliability.
Ferrari in the 2000s:Prancing Horses
Ferrari in the 2010s:Spasming Ponies
3 things you need to get right to win a driver's championship; 1, A great car. 2, A great team. 3, A great driver. 2012 was an interesting year because I felt Vettel and Red Bull were technically 2nd best in every single category, which is WHY they won. Mclaren had the best car, but the team didn't develop it to it's full potential and their drivers were inconsitent probably as a result. Ferrari had the best driver that year, team did a fantastic job too but their car was awful. Red Bull and Vettel were just the most solid and aside from perhaps the team aspect, certainly were second best on the driver and car front.
The F2012 was as good as racing point in 2020 imagine perez in 2020 fighting hamilton to the wdc ( just a comparisation )
@π And Racing Point were actually faster than red bull at some circuits (the driver made the difference).
@π yet right now Perez performing same in RB as he did racing point last year. Based on mini sectors, racing point had pace to challenge RB last year on many circuits. Max just did incredible vs car driving difficulty and car issues that season, and RP didn't have the drivers.
And note RB now much faster vs their performance from previous season.
@π Actually, the red bull was a disaster. Yes, it could produce pace, but the steering was messed up (random understeer/oversteer from lap to lap). It was a serious issue with the car, and the engine lacked straight line pace from the other cars too by far.
Albon does the car pretty much how the team were expecting. They themselves were shocked at how Max was even able to drive it.
Alonso in the 2012 become one of my favorite human being like Roberto Baggio after 1994 final, love him
Will always think vettel deserved to win but alonso did well to get that car so close to a title
@s43edsalehi Redbull was the second fastest car that season.
Ferrari was the Fourth
And Alonso had the crashes at suzuka and in belgium
Vettel won the title and alonso won the driver of the season.
@s43edsalehi What? Kimi was behind, how is that Alonsos' fault?
s43edsalehi was a Racing incident. Still These Points were Alonso‘s Points to lose.
So he was not Perfect but close to perfect that year
Suzuka was nobody’s fault. It hasn’t been shown of that often but Suzuka T1 is very accident prone in the way they crashed their. There was a huge 4 car crash in Super Formula this year
16:35 That face says it all. I personally think the 2012 season absolutely broke him. He was a driving god and pushed everything BEYOND the limit but alas had to settle for second. It took a toll mentally for alonso.
He said in an interview that he actually wasn't disappointed in that moment. In his own words, that image became popular in a misunderstood way. He said that he was just waiting Felipe because the brazilian was excited and crying due to getting a podium at Interlagos in front of his people. However, I don't believe him. Poor Fernando
2012 shouldn't have been won by Vettel, even less when you heard from Schumacher that he let him through in the last lap so that he would win the championship... And to do that as a professional driver... Amazing... Just letting someone pass by because he's friends with you... that's just wrong...