Thank you so much! Definitely tried to cover as much as I could without boring all the people who already knew. Thanks for watching and leaving a dope and thoughtful comment. Appreciate it! Have a great start to the New year!
big kuddos to all the guys who are testing aps-c lenses on full frames.. sometimes it works! and who puts the time into testing this - THANK YOU. great video, my friend
Just one more testing would be awesome. I would like to know if you use 11mm f1.8 in full frame mode, use clear image zoom to around 16mm to eliminate the dark corner. And then compare the bokeh in the background and see how that compare to Super 35 crop mode with 11mm F1.8. I wonder if the full frame mode actually give you more bokeh in the background if both test at F1.8. Perhaps need to focus on something very close in order to see the background bokeh though...
24p Full frame with active looks very useable even with the vignette, would use for vlogging thanks man, this made me purchase the 11mm for my a74, cheers buddy 🍻
Hey T4T. I use the lens in 24p FF with active all the time! And if your mindful of not wiping the camera around to fast no one even notices! Thanks for leaving a comment and I’m glad the video helped you. Hope to see you around the channel more. Cheers 🍻
For some reason the algorithm blessed me with exactly what I was looking for. Great way to use this combination. Thinking about getting the 7Cii, that's why I thought about this too. Glad you have tried it already :)
Hey Chibichibz! Im glad this video found you also! Thank you so much for watching and leaving your comment. One thing though I have to mention. This trick/ hack. Really only works with full frame camera to get both the full frame mode 13mm look and the crop mode 16mm look. Wanted to point that out so youre not disappointed if you do get the a7cii. But even if you did the lens is will still be super dope on that camera! 🍻 EDIT: ahh. made a mistake I thought I read zve10ii. 🥴 IN FACT this lens would be amazing for the a7cii
Awesome update Michael! I think you might even be able to use some clear image zoom to get that 13mm equivalent instead of doing it in post. I picked up an 11mm for the FX30 coming out next week but I also like how it performs on the A7IV! 🤙
Hey Miguel! Thats actually a great option to use clear image zoom. Thanks for the insight! I’m seriously considering the fx30! Thanks for adding to the conversation! Really appreciate it man! Cheers!
CIZ doesn't work with RAW and you only have basic focus, you have to go manual for anything tricky. You can get ~15mm but for 13mm you will get strong vignetting.
Amazing Phil. Glad it was helpful! Thanks for watching and leaving a comment. Appreciate your time. Enjoy the lens and if you have any other questions please feel free to ask. See you around the channel! Cheers
Hey Cheeky! No problem! Glad it was helpful. You have a great camera combination! That lens is going work so amazing for you!! I definitely have to check out your videos. Thanks for leaving a comment. Hope to see you around here again also! Cheers!
This video is very useful ! I bought 20-70mm F4 G for travel, but I think sony 11mm f1.8 is really good for vlogging ( Full Frame mode with active ), just up scale up if you don't like vignette
Thank you Patrick! Exactly what you said. A little scale up in post will still give about a 13mm look with no vignette. I also use the 20-70G and 11mm as my main travel set up. Its covers pretty much every situation! Thanks for leaving your insight and watching the video. Appreciate yhe support! Cheers.
How can I fix the vignetting 11 mm makes? 🤔 I’m using it on a Zony ZV E1 plus using dinamic active stabilization. It does eliminate almost all the vignetting, but sometimes it appears while vlogging or while I move to much the camera
Hey tiofrank! Unfortunately you can’t fully in camera. It also happens to me if I move it around fast. In editing I just zoom in. 5 times 10 percent and it gets rid of it. Gives you a 13mm-14mm look. I used this method in my Teufelsberg video and it looks great imo. Sound like you have a really great compact setup. You must be really liking it? But yeah thanks for watching and reaching out in the comments. Hope my answer helps.
Sadly my A74 took a dive into some random concrete dont know who put that there but picked up a A73 and just ordered this 11mm because of your video. Thank uuuu!
What?!? Really?! I thought the A74 was built tougher than that! But the 3 is still a beast! Enjoy the 11mm. Super fun look’s with it. Appreciate you watching!
@@MichaelNgvyen loved the 4 but yeah the sensor bracking was damaged and the LCD shattered, I sent it to Sony for repair but yeah loving the A73 still a great work horse, even without the active stabilizer like the 4, can just use the digital zoom to crop out the vignette or 4k/30 crop
Thank you for showing us what this lense can do. I often think whether to go for this lense 11mm or the 10-20mm lense because knowing that both have some degree of cropping involved as you get wider and both works differently. however both are different lenses offering different outcome results. Seeing this in 11mm full frame, activation on and off including the APS mode gives a good idea how some areas arent too bad with the 13mm result but not so good in 11mm due to the outer corners,vignette and distortion. As you mentioned, great for real estates, something I plan to add to my gear. Right now I cant justify the 12-24mm G Master II Sony. With this lense, it is definitely going to be trial and error post production but the price as it is for us is around 600 USD. That price alone is heart break. I'd buy it in a heart beat if it was 300-400 USD but 600 USD isnt far off from a 12-24mm F4 G lense. It's crazy. I'm fighting with myself on final-decision making because even travelling on plane, you cant bring that many lenses and you shouldnt either. Thanks again for providing this perspectives and showing it live how it morphed and changed. sometimes seeing it in action rather than someone editing too much out of the video makes it sometimes hard to see the comparison. Every photo looks kind of good but until you see the differences, you can see it noticable. 👍
Hey WM. Thanks for the very insightful comment and your thoughts on the topic. I really appreciate it. One other thing I would add is that you mentioned the 12-24mmG and G master. However they work different since they are already full frame so in 4k60 on the A7iv it becomes 18-36mm. While the 11mm is only 16mm so it can work in 4k24p giving you about 12/13mm or 4k60 (16mm)and still be wide enough for real estate etc. Since I also have considered what you mentioned before purchasing the 11mm I thought I would mention it. I saw Amazon US is selling the 11mm right now for $498 so that is a okay price IMO There might be a link in my bio if you decide you want the lens. Hope that helps. Thanks again for watching and see you around the channel! Cheers
Field of view I think the look might be similar however the lens is too big imo and theres no threading to add filters, specifically ND’s. However, I think the image quality would be superior but not for 2.5 times the price. And the 11 mm has the little trick that it can battle the 1.5 times crop for Sony cameras that have the 4K60 crop. Like on the A7iv. Make it 16mm. But the 14mm GM suddenly becomes 21. And even tighter with active. But I think I will actually grab the 14 GM to test it out because a lot of people have been asking me about that comparison. Thanks for watching man and appreciate you leaving a comment.
Greetings Arturo! Glad it helps you and I think will love it, I really like the picture quality from it and so useful! Cheers! Hope to See you around the channel more!
Hey Diego! Yeah it still has a bit of a vignette if you’re moving the camera around, otherwise not when it is stationary. I usually crop in a bit in post. But it still gives you a super unique view! Ive also seen a lot of creators lately use it in FF mode and no stabilization keeping the vignette for creative look/ style. Thanks for watching. And appreciate you leaving a comment. Have a good slide into the New Year!
Yep thats true. I did mention its best to zoom in another 10 percent. Either in post or with clear image zoom. Theres one example near the end of the vid.
Hey T. I agree definitely not something i would always use but good yo have when needed. Im actually surprised how well the distortion is handled! Thanks for the watching. Much appreciated!
Great video man! I m gonna get this and yor video just solidified my decision!! My guitar videos will look way cooler with this lens coupled with my ZV E10.. Thank you 🙂 Subbed!!
Hey! Glad you found and are part of the channel now. The lens has been awesome! I think you will really like it! Pumped the video helped you! I'll keep on eye out for your guitar vids! Cheers man!
No problem! I think the lens is perfect for the zv-e10! And if you ever upgrade to any full frame you can still make good use of it! Thanks for watching!
Hey man! Great video! I am really in between Viltrox 13mm f1.4 vs Sony 11mm f1.8 for my fx 30. I am looking for video shooting mostly(like ancient ruins, zoo, jungle, hiking, church, streets animals) and some photos here and there. I am also going to shoot talking head videos in door. I am also planning to use 4k 120fps option in Fx30 which has 1.5 more crop on top of apsc crop! I need to know 3 important aspects about these lenses! 1- f1.8 vs f.1.4 How big of the difference especially for low light in door recordings with my fx30! I am bit worried about sensor being apsc and underperforms in low light. So should i really prioritize 1.4 over 1.8? I have done some research and find out 1.4 lets almost 2 times amount light than 1.8! 2- I am really worried about distortion that sony 11mm has. I know we can use in camera corrections on fx30 body! But for me while shooting talking head i dont want my face to look weird because of extreme wide angle and distortion! Is it a problem with sony lens? Also while shooting some historical places i would not want to see curved lines! 3- I am a bit worried about viltrox 13mm image quality! Sony looks way better, much punchier, much sharper and it is also a native lens for fx30! Also both lenses are same price in my country! Should i value that sony is native, have better focusing performance and same price with viltrox or should i go for viltrox and give up from that 2 mm but get brighter aperture and less distorted but less punchy and less sharp image quality with viltrox! Thanks in advance!
Hey man! I have no experience with the Viltrox so I will speak about the Sony 11mm only. I’ll address your main concern first.l, the distortion. For video I don’t have any issues with that. I have a few vlogs and have also shot some talking heads and not an issue. Pictures have a bit but easily corrected. With the really really good fast AF and fantastic image quality, I would pick that over have Viltrox 1.4. The lens is so wide anyways. Im not sure if 1.4 would make a huge difference. But I also shoot with the A7iv and have good iso performance. Not sure how it is with the fx30. Hope that gives you good insight on the Sony 11. Thanks for watching!
I would have liked to see what the full frame in 4k 60 is. I think if i bought a ff camera i would like to use use a lense to its full potential, i see in the sony website that its a 35mm in a ff equivalent, im assuming thats what the crop does. Its nice that it works but there is defiently distortion on the edges.
Hi Angel, On the Sony A7iv it is not possible to use FULL FRAME in 4K60. You can only use it in the CROP MODE aka (APSC mode) sometimes they also call it Super35 mode. The lens is a APSC lens so even though it says 11mm, but the lens is actually 16.5mm in 35mm FF equivalent. A lot of people are getting this lens for the Sony A7iv so they can get the 16.5mm look in 4K60 for Slo mo. In this video I was showing another way to use the lens and how to get an extra wide look in full frame mode.(4k24). The distortion only happens in Full frame mode and well this lens wasn't meant for that. just a fun way to use it and get a different look. But yeah thanks for watching and leaving a comment. Hopefully that all made sense.
@@MichaelNgvyen thank you for the reply.ok so my question is. When NOT used in 4k60 so lets say 4k30 or 1080 60. Will this lense automaticaly shoot in crop mode when put on the IV? Or can i use the fullframe mode but it will show the endges like you showed? I want to get this lense but it really isnt a 11mm equivalen on the a7iv correct? Because what i mean is that i need a wide angle lens that if a true 11mm used in fullframe. Because if that was the case i would rather get the equivalent of this lense in full frame original form. Which you said its about 16mm?
Hey Alex. Glad you found my channel. Thanks for leaving a comment and watching! Appreciate the compliment in the colour. Thats one thing I’m always trying to improve. I’m working on a colour grade video. Hopefully that will provide you with some valuable info. See you around.
In full frame mode, the image can warp/wobble and look like jello if there is any kind of movement like vlogging, so I'm not sure if it's a great option. It looks great in static shots though.
I have shot a full moving/walking and talking vlog with it and there is not a lot of wobble or warp. The biggest concern is actually a bit of vignetting that shows up in up shots. Easily fixed though. Hope that insight helps you. And thanks for your input. Appreciate you watching
@@MichaelNgvyen I think the key words are "not a lot of", but it's there. Maybe my eye is just really sensitive to it, but it looks horrible to me. With a bit more motion, it's very pronounced. I don't understand why spend $2k on good video camera and then cripple it with jello/wobble, loss of functionality like dynamic stabe, hinder the sophisticated image processor that usually removes many artefacts like this, but it just can't work correctly with an APS-C lens. Forget the vignette, the vignette you can fix, everything else, you cannot, even with heavy cropping (with non static shots that is). But the amount of crop you need to do, you're also losing a fair bit of resolution too. There are cheap options like the Samyang 18mm F2.8, Sigma 17mm F4, etc. I personally think this has far too many drawbacks, but that's just my opinion - it clearly works for a lot of people :)
@@gelade "potentially" is unusable, you need a 35%+ crop so 16mm at best. The Viltrox 16mm f/1.8 is good if you don't mind the weight, that's what I went with to compliment the Samyang 18mm which weighs nothing, really great travel lens.
Hi Hridai. The 11 for sure, because on the ZV-e10. It will give you 16mm lookwhich in my opinion is the tightest you should be for real estate. The viltrox is 19.5mm look. The difference of 1.8 and 1.4 is minor. Plus the autofocus will be much more reliable. As the Sony 11mm has fast and accurate AF. Hope that helps you!! Thanks for watching!
Thank you for this video and for your time for us, a74 users :) just one question: I use only 800 and 3200 iso for the base iso “rule” of the a74 and usually I Record video with +1/2 steps over to have correct exposure . Is this a good method for you too? (Which color corrections you have in this video, looks amazing!) thank you in advance for your answer
Hi Francesco! Appreciate the nice words. I’m happy to share any findings to hopefully help all of us! So with your described settings, I’m assume you are shooting with SLOG 3. I will typically try expose +1.7. And I find that works good. This video I actually used s-cinetone and exposed to 0. But to answer your question. Regardless of what PP i used. Once i have it balanced (transformed to rec709). I try to drop my mid-tones and then balance out the shadows and highlights using colour wheels. I have a lut im working on and testing so hopefully I can share that soon too. Maybe I will make a video that will explain it all and and show my colour grade workflow to help everyone better rather than a long comment lol. Anyways. I hope that wasn’t confusing. Thanks for engaging and appreciate your support. Hope to see you around the channel some more!
Hey, first of all. great video! I have multiple questions to ask. 1) I have been using my sony a7III for almost 5 years doing company event support, travel and product unboxing on my channel. I lately felt like switching to a7IV thinking the higher megapixel will give me a better photos if I go travel around the world again as I wanted to polish my port folio. I don't do freelance large events at all at this point. Do you think I should keep my a7III and spend my money to get an fx30 for the 10bit and having a B-cam while doing unboxing? Is a7IV higher megapixel be a lot better compare to a7III lower megapixel? 2) or should I just upgrade to a7IV and continue to be the hybrid shooter and maybe get a second hand zve-10 as B-cam? 3) I would love to see the a7IV with Tamron 11-20 f2.8 as well, So i don't have to spend a lot of money for Sony 16-35 GM.
Hey Nelson, firstly thanks for watching! Ok so my first gut reaction is to say you should get the fx30. Since you wint shoot corporate photos and just the ones for travel and products the A7iii is still perfect. it hard to see the difference between the 24 and 33. Unless you realy pixel peep. But the fx30 will support your videos need better and greatly be improved from the a7iii. With 10bit and 4k60 being the biggest factor. So in short. Use fx30 for video and a7iii for pictures. Plus if you’re in a pinch you can still get 26mp from the fx30. I’ve also though about the zve10, but I dunno if i can go back to 8bit and no s-cinetone. Hope that helps you and hope to see you around the channel more. Let me know what you end up deciding on!
@@MichaelNgvyen that’s brilliant! Thank you so much for getting back to me and cleared my doubts. I have been thinking long and hard of what should I buy. Not easy for some one like me with average earnings to buy something and regret down the road. Hey, thanks man. Subscribed ;)
Yep! The outro was yes! As long as you’re not moving the camera side to side it works really well. If you move it too fast some vignetting will show! Thanks for leaving a comment Chris. Appreciate you watching it all the way through! Cheers!
this is a great review. I really liked this lens i have sony a6700 i like wide angle but not too wide 😅 I do travel vlogging but love cinematic, a little zoomed in shots I have the kit lens 16-50mm need one for better low light, portraits and astro i am really confused between this one and sigma 16mm/f1.4, with sigma the crop with active stabilisation is a concern would love to hear your thoughts Thanks
Hi Shubhangimore, Thanks for the comment. The sony 11 would be a great lens for everything you mentioned. Vlogging, low light and astro. On the A6700 it would be 16mm and with active stabilization it would still about 18mm. Think the Sigma 16 is too tight, But another great option for you is the Sigma 10-18 2.8 gives you wide options and then paired with your kit lens you have a big range of focal lengths. Sigma 10-18 if you want some flexibility or Sony 11 of you want more lowlight capability. Hope that helps. Cheers
Hi Rach. If you are using the Sony A7iv, when the APSC / crop mode is activated. It simply crops in on the sensor. It doesn’t affect the 4k resolution. The camera shoots in APSC automatically when you set it to 4k 60fps. But in 4k 24fps or 30. You can toggle to be full frame or apsc mode. I have the apsc s35 shooting mode set to a custom button so I can turn it on and off whenever I need to switch . Hope that makes sense.
@@rachcastellino hI Rach. ahh yes it does! because the sensor on the A7iv is 33mp so there is enough resolution to still shoot in 4k in APSC s35 mode. But on the ZVE1, like the A7siii there is only 12mp so you are right. 4k is not possible in APSC s35 mode.
Thanks Han! There’s sort of 2 answers. Is the lowlight performance still 1.8? Yes. It still has the 1.8 light gathering ability. But if you are talking about the out of focus area( bokeh) then it is more like 2.8. But with such a wide look its hard to get super blurry bokeh I find anyways. Hope that makes sense. Thanks for watching!
Nice explanation. Do we get the same quality like full frame lenses with this lens? I have already 20 mm but I am looking for more wider lens for my Sony a7siii. Plz Suggest.
With the A7siii there is no crop to worry about. It has full sensor read out in all modes 4k60 and 4k120. So I would get a full frame lens. There’s 14mm 1.8 or the 12-24 f4 or f2.8. That would be my suggestion and a better for for thr a7siii
For the Sony 11mm. You still have to correct distortion for photos manually or with a lens profile. But in video the distortion is very well controlled in my opinion. I hope that answers your question.
Thanks Michael, just purchased this glass from Best Buy. Why can I see the circular edge of the lens, do I have setting wrong? There is a round black mask circle around every image. The lens can see the edges and limits view. A7SII
Hey Ryan. For the A7sii you have to use the crop mode. Which will give the 11mm a 16mm Field of view. Hopefully that answers your question. Let me know! And thanks for watching
Hey Adi. Yep! all the Sony e-mount lenses work on a Sony camera’s wether full frame or apsc. Thanks for asking. If you have any other questions let me know! Cheers!
i would like to see images by 11mm F1.8 and 10-20mm F4 G to compare.. Advise me ... I cant decide which one is for my needs - People,landscape and portrait background blur.. for my camera A6500
Hi Toh! I think if you want a lens that can shoot people and landscapes the 10-20 will be better for you. The 11 won't be so great and peoples faces, background blur will be OK. But if you really want background blur from the A6500 (I used to have the camera) the 11mm will be better for that. I know that won't help you so much im sorry!
Can you also do clear image zoom in addition to active stabilization to get rid of the vignetting entirely when recording in full frame mode? I was thinking of getting this lens for my A6700. It’s nice to know that it is also usable in a full frame body.
Yes you absolutely can!!! The caveat is on the Sony A7iv you lose the eye/face tracking. However I believe with the newer a7r5 and zv-e1 you still get that in clear image zoom. A6700 looks like a great camera. Definitely consider this lens, it is super versatile and can be used in so many ways. Appreciate you watching. Hope it helps your buying decision. Cheers Carmelo!
@@hamurabidios Hey Manos. Its an option in your settings that you can assign to a custom button and it will allow you to zoom in digitally without too much quality loss. So your 11mm can have a bit of extra reach! Hope that helps! Thanks for watching, appreciate it! Enjoy uour new camera and lens!
Hello, thank you for your test about sony 11mm F1.8 on A74. My style of photography is 100% photo only, if i need to take some video, i just using insta360onex3. So the following is my question, apsc len on full frame camera, that mean the megapixels will drop to 1400 as A74... Is it enough for put on FB/IG only?because i planning to buy Sony 20 F1.8 for arsto... If 1400 megapixels is enough, i am sure i will change the decision as half price, more wide angle and same F1.8
Hey Max. Thanks for watching! I think using the 11mm in crop mode would be plenty enough if you are just posting to web! It still 16 megapixels. I made a video on my channel about how even 12 megapixels is more than enough ( iphone and A7siii). th-cam.com/video/cJ3gpGxnUwM/w-d-xo.html Plus if you use it in full frame mode you might be able to get a 13mm view after you crop out the vignetting , and still get about 24megapixels , to go even wider in your pictures! Thanks for watching and asking your question. Hope that helps you out a bit
I have the a7iv too. If I record with this lens in 4k24fps in aps-c mode with active stabilization on it will give me 1.6x crop…is there any additional crop when filming in 4k60fps or will it top out at 1.6x crop?
Nope. There is no additional crop. In apcs mode in all the frame rates the max crop will be 1.6 with active and 1.5 with normal stabilization. And in full frame mode on 24 or 30 fps with active its about a 1.2 crop giving you approximately 13mm field of view. Hope that helps! Thanks for watching the video! Appreciate it man!
Hello! I will recive tomorrow Sony ZV E10 and the 11 mm lens. Can i use ND filters without vignetting on this wide angle? Do i need a bigger filter with a step up ring? Thanks!
Hey Claudiu. It definitely a really wide look so. The diameter is 55 so maybe you could use that and mot get vignetting but for reference I use a 67 and it works great! Hopefully that helps you! Excited for you to get your gear! Happy creating!
Well the A7iii doesn’t have active stabilization but it will still have the crop mode or full frame look. You will just have to do a but of post crop in full frame mode. It can still give you that super wide 13mm ish look
No problem! Happy to give insight. Been using it a tone to get some cool perspectives. I think you’ll really like the lens! Thanks for watching and leaving a comment.
Hi Kanegi. The short answer is yes. It will still give you a nice wide 16mm look. So stil a great lens choice if you want a cheaper and light wide lens with autofocus. The long answer is: When you put it on the a7iii just like the a7iv, The camera goes into crop mode which will give you a 16.5mm wide look. But you can’t really use the lens in full frame mode like you can on the a7iv, because the a7iii does not have active stabilization. But still a good option for the A7iii for a wide angle lens. Hope that made sense for you. Thanks for watching
Hi. thanks for the comment! No, I bought this lens so I can get the 16.5 wide look in 4k50 or 4k60. It only does the crop once! Hope that helps you! Thanks for watching. see you around the channel more hopefully! Cheers
You’re right. I mean the full frame mode is a hack so its not perfect. Zooming in a bit in post will give a very wide look with a low cost lens with a good image. Just giving people some insight and possible options
@@MichaelNgvyen yes I know...I try different apsc lenses on my Sony Zve1 with the hope I can have a small usable lens but everytime is a compromise...in the end apsc mode is the only way to have a clean image
@@lb_projekt well I appreciate the insight. Honestly sometimes I don’t mind the vignetting for some vlogging type content. The 11mm is the perfect size for the ZVe1. I really want that camera! Appreciate your thoughts and input. Thanks for watching the video! Cheers!
Hey Tim! Yes you totally can! I made a video shooting a bunch of street photos in crop and FF mode. You can check out some snaps here if you want. th-cam.com/video/f6EYI_J82lw/w-d-xo.htmlsi=ug6-VdXJ94FUjn7p Thanks for watching the video and leaving your comment. Appreciate your time. Cheers
Mainly just for video in 24p and 30p, because you need the active stabilization to get rid of the vignette. But in theory. You could take a photo and crop out the vignetting in lightroom/photoshop to give you a wide look for your photo. But much easier to just buy a Fullframe 12mm lens. Thanks for watching and leaving a comment Hug. Cheers!
İ am thinking to buy it for real estate shooting but i saw some videos , this lens with full frame sony cameras it gets almost fully black on the corners , is there a solution without cropping
Hey Ömer. Yes you can but you still have to crop in a little bit. Just like the examples in the video. Just use it in full frame mode. If you’re using it the Sony a7iii you can zoom in 20 percent in post. Or with the a7iv turn on active stabilization and then zoom in 10 percent in post. You will get about a 13mm equivalent look. Hope that helps!
@@MichaelNgvyen so i can not use these settings on sony a 7 iii that you made , so if i use it in full frame mode i have to crop it i understand that , but i dont want to crop it on post producton to be honest , if i chose setting on camera apsc mode with this lens , am i right that i will get a almost 16mm lens ? Because if its like that it is fair enough for me bacause the price range and quality is really looks nice👍🏽
@@omerbulbul8185 if you put the lens on the sony A7iii it will automatically give you 16mm look, yes. No black corners and you dont need to crop. If you want to get even wider. Just put your A7ii back into full frame mode. And you can use clear image zoom and zoom in a little bit in camera to get rid of the black corners that will give you 13mm look. With basically no loss in quality.
Hey universeofsound! Unfortunately you cant with the fx30 because its a crop sensor. The hack Only with the full frame Sony’s. (Fx3, a7iv etc. ). But you have a really dope camera! How do you like it? Thanks for watching and leaving a comment man!
Hey thank you! Im always so self conscious about the sound. So really appreciate the comment. I own both so it depends. The 11 gives you the 16mm look in 4k60 for slo mo since the A74 crops. Thats the main reason I got it. But the bonus is you can use it to go extra wide. But the 20 has superior image quality. So if I had to pick one it would be the 20mm you just have to be mindful of how wide you need. Appreciate you watching !
Yep it does! The only big difference is in full frame mode. You have to crop/zoom in a bit with either clear image zoom or in post, because the a7iii doesn’t have active stabilization. Hope that helps you! Appreciate your time!
Hi Zaur. Both are such great camera's! A good problem I guess LOL. If you are strictly video. I think the fx30 could be great. It does have the 4k120 an advantage if you shoot a lot of slo mo. But if you also want to take some picture I think the A7iv is a no brainer.. Th EVF is a much better way to see focus and sharpness and especially in super sunny conditions. I also like that you kind of have two sensor size options with the crop mode! BUT No wrong choice I would say. Let me know what you end up decided on! Thanks for finding my channel. Cheers man!
Hey Scott! I think the 10-20 is really quite good. I know someone who uses it. You can get a lot of different wide and medium wide options in both apsc mode and full frame mode. If you shoot often in low light situations. That might be the only slight draw back! Thanks for comment Scott!
Hey thanks David! Well yes it does! A bit different. When you put on the lens it pits you in apsc mode. But just put it back in full frame mode and You have to use clear image zoom and zoom in to about 1.2 or 1.3. (You dont have to do this reaaly with the a7iv because of active stabilization.) And it will get rid of the vignetting! It will give you the 12.1 or 13mm look. Works for video and jpeg photos. Hope that helps! Thanks for watching man!
Not in video. Quality is the same. And I find same goes for photos. And yes, it’s not a full frame lens so when you’re taking photos, the mega pixels are reduced. But on my Sony7iv the megapixels is still 14.5. So I find that quality more than enough, especially for social media.
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just baught this lens because the use of this with full frame that you showed in this video. cheers mate
Elijah! Thanks for taking the time to leave this comment. Really appreciate it and for watching. Cheers 🍻
@@MichaelNgvyen isn't this lens a crop-sensor lens? or is it actually full frame?
nevermind xD
@@juliodacosta91 it’ s a crop sensor lens. But some have benefits when paired with the right full frame camera!
I really love this explanation video for this lens on FF body, other videos dont explain it properly. Love your content!
Thank you so much! Definitely tried to cover as much as I could without boring all the people who already knew. Thanks for watching and leaving a dope and thoughtful comment. Appreciate it! Have a great start to the New year!
big kuddos to all the guys who are testing aps-c lenses on full frames.. sometimes it works! and who puts the time into testing this - THANK YOU. great video, my friend
Hey Enfieldlover! Thanks and Beautiful bike! Appreciate your comment! Yes sometimes you can discover something unique! Thanks for your time!
Never stop. Love your work.
Thank Gavin. Appreciate it very much man.
Just one more testing would be awesome. I would like to know if you use 11mm f1.8 in full frame mode, use clear image zoom to around 16mm to eliminate the dark corner. And then compare the bokeh in the background and see how that compare to Super 35 crop mode with 11mm F1.8. I wonder if the full frame mode actually give you more bokeh in the background if both test at F1.8. Perhaps need to focus on something very close in order to see the background bokeh though...
Yes will definitely do that!! Thanks for the suggestion!
24p Full frame with active looks very useable even with the vignette, would use for vlogging thanks man, this made me purchase the 11mm for my a74, cheers buddy 🍻
Hey T4T. I use the lens in 24p FF with active all the time! And if your mindful of not wiping the camera around to fast no one even notices! Thanks for leaving a comment and I’m glad the video helped you. Hope to see you around the channel more. Cheers 🍻
Congratulations on your 1k subscribers!
Hey thank you! It’s been a grind but a happy one. Hope to keep putting out stuff that inspires everyone to love a life they love! Have a great day!
For some reason the algorithm blessed me with exactly what I was looking for. Great way to use this combination. Thinking about getting the 7Cii, that's why I thought about this too. Glad you have tried it already :)
Hey Chibichibz! Im glad this video found you also! Thank you so much for watching and leaving your comment. One thing though I have to mention. This trick/ hack. Really only works with full frame camera to get both the full frame mode 13mm look and the crop mode 16mm look. Wanted to point that out so youre not disappointed if you do get the a7cii. But even if you did the lens is will still be super dope on that camera! 🍻
EDIT: ahh. made a mistake I thought I read zve10ii. 🥴 IN FACT this lens would be amazing for the a7cii
@@MichaelNgvyenbro, a7c ii is a full frame camera. Why wouldn’t what you’ve shown in this video work?
For me, someone who knows nothing about lens - this was super helpful 😊
Good to hear! If you shoot with a full frame Sony camera this lens is a really fun affordable option that gives you really unique shots 😊
Great video, Michael! I’ve been looking for a compact wide angle lens that won’t break the bank, so this was super helpful.
One of my favourites ever tbh. Im glad it helped you! It goes on sale often so keep an eye out!
I love this lens! It’s compact and light!
Hi Elvin! Me also! Took it out for some street photos and I loved it even more than I do! Thanks for watching and sharing your thoughts. Appreciate it
What a great video! Very much appreciated! I JUST ordered this for my a6500 & a7siii . This was the review I needed! I made the right choice💪🏽
Hey glad to hear! I think it will be a dope lens to get creative on both those cameras! Thanks for watching! 🙏🏽 cheers!
you could have just bought the A7r5 and only deal with ONE camera dude............
@@JinKazama92 why when I already have the bodies that I have. They all do the same thing.
@@AaronOverEverything oh crap my bad. I thought you were ordering the a6500 and a7siii. It’s just the lens 🫢
@@JinKazama92 lol! all good. this 11mm lens is definitely worth every penny.
Try breathing compensation also which will give you an additional crop on top of the active in 30 or 24p
Breathing comp was on for these tests. I should’ve mentioned that. Thanks for bringing it up in your comment. Now its been mentioned.
Awesome update Michael! I think you might even be able to use some clear image zoom to get that 13mm equivalent instead of doing it in post. I picked up an 11mm for the FX30 coming out next week but I also like how it performs on the A7IV! 🤙
Hey Miguel! Thats actually a great option to use clear image zoom. Thanks for the insight! I’m seriously considering the fx30! Thanks for adding to the conversation! Really appreciate it man! Cheers!
The only problem with ciz is that you loose eye auto focus
@@margaretisolan9189 Yep. That is true! That's generally why I prefer to zoom in a bit in post! Thanks for adding this comment Margareti!
CIZ doesn't work with RAW and you only have basic focus, you have to go manual for anything tricky. You can get ~15mm but for 13mm you will get strong vignetting.
Brilliant, best video on this lens thanks! I'm now going to buy it
Amazing Phil. Glad it was helpful! Thanks for watching and leaving a comment. Appreciate your time. Enjoy the lens and if you have any other questions please feel free to ask. See you around the channel! Cheers
I didn't know that you could do that with the 11mm,this made my night thank-you
Hey Jake! Glad it helped! Thanks for watching. Appreciate your time man!
this was super helpful! Thank you so much for sharing this comparison!🙏
Hey! Onegooddream! Glad it was helpful to you! Thanks for watching. 🍻
Hi Michael! Thank you so much for this video! Really helped me make a decision to get the Sony 11 mm for my Sony ZV E10 and A74!
Hey Cheeky! No problem! Glad it was helpful. You have a great camera combination! That lens is going work so amazing for you!! I definitely have to check out your videos. Thanks for leaving a comment. Hope to see you around here again also! Cheers!
Amazing Video! And Well done to 1000 Subscribers :)
Thank you so much!
The most perfect comparison video ever made!
Akib! Thanks for the kind comment. I am really glad you found the info and testing useful! Its always the goal. Thanks for watching.
You have no Idea how useful this was
Hey Chrissan! Yes! Super pumped it help you! Thanks for watching the video!
Thank you so much for this video
I was hoping you would make your way to this video! Super versatile lens! Hope it helps you!
This video is very useful ! I bought 20-70mm F4 G for travel, but I think sony 11mm f1.8 is really good for vlogging ( Full Frame mode with active ), just up scale up if you don't like vignette
Thank you Patrick! Exactly what you said. A little scale up in post will still give about a 13mm look with no vignette. I also use the 20-70G and 11mm as my main travel set up. Its covers pretty much every situation! Thanks for leaving your insight and watching the video. Appreciate yhe support! Cheers.
Great job brother. very helpful!
Thanks Kent! Appreciate the comment. Glad it is it helpful to you in some way. Cheers.
How can I fix the vignetting 11 mm makes? 🤔 I’m using it on a Zony ZV E1 plus using dinamic active stabilization. It does eliminate almost all the vignetting, but sometimes it appears while vlogging or while I move to much the camera
Hey tiofrank! Unfortunately you can’t fully in camera. It also happens to me if I move it around fast. In editing I just zoom in. 5 times 10 percent and it gets rid of it. Gives you a 13mm-14mm look. I used this method in my Teufelsberg video and it looks great imo. Sound like you have a really great compact setup. You must be really liking it? But yeah thanks for watching and reaching out in the comments. Hope my answer helps.
Sadly my A74 took a dive into some random concrete dont know who put that there but picked up a A73 and just ordered this 11mm because of your video. Thank uuuu!
What?!? Really?! I thought the A74 was built tougher than that! But the 3 is still a beast! Enjoy the 11mm. Super fun look’s with it. Appreciate you watching!
@@MichaelNgvyen loved the 4 but yeah the sensor bracking was damaged and the LCD shattered, I sent it to Sony for repair but yeah loving the A73 still a great work horse, even without the active stabilizer like the 4, can just use the digital zoom to crop out the vignette or 4k/30 crop
This is amazing! Thank you so much, interested in testing with the new a7c ii that I look to buy real soon 😅
It will be a great lens to use with the a7cii. Get so super cool looks with it. Thanks for watching and leaving your thoughts.
This was insanely helpful. Thanks for the tests!
No problem Randy. Glad it helped! Thanks for watching. Cheers!
Quality review bro. This will help to educate more of us new buyers.. Thanks!
Thanks for the dope comment. Always happy to pass along info where I can! Cool profile pic and name btw!! Hope to see you around here more! Cheers 🍻
Hell yeah bro, good video!
Thanks Gilly. Appreciate it man. Thank you for taking the time! Cheers
This was extremely informative and useful. Thank you!!
Hi Cwantuch! Glad it helped! The lens has been really useful to have different wide pov. Thanks for watching and leaving a comment! Appreciate it
Amazing video!! Thanks so much for all the tips!!
Hey Leonardo! Thanks so much. Hope it helps! Appreciate you taking the time to leave a comment. Thanks for watching
Thank you for showing us what this lense can do. I often think whether to go for this lense 11mm or the 10-20mm lense because knowing that both have some degree of cropping involved as you get wider and both works differently. however both are different lenses offering different outcome results.
Seeing this in 11mm full frame, activation on and off including the APS mode gives a good idea how some areas arent too bad with the 13mm result but not so good in 11mm due to the outer corners,vignette and distortion.
As you mentioned, great for real estates, something I plan to add to my gear. Right now I cant justify the 12-24mm G Master II Sony.
With this lense, it is definitely going to be trial and error post production but the price as it is for us is around 600 USD. That price alone is heart break. I'd buy it in a heart beat if it was 300-400 USD but 600 USD isnt far off from a 12-24mm F4 G lense. It's crazy.
I'm fighting with myself on final-decision making because even travelling on plane, you cant bring that many lenses and you shouldnt either. Thanks again for providing this perspectives and showing it live how it morphed and changed. sometimes seeing it in action rather than someone editing too much out of the video makes it sometimes hard to see the comparison. Every photo looks kind of good but until you see the differences, you can see it noticable.
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Hey WM. Thanks for the very insightful comment and your thoughts on the topic. I really appreciate it. One other thing I would add is that you mentioned the 12-24mmG and G master. However they work different since they are already full frame so in 4k60 on the A7iv it becomes 18-36mm. While the 11mm is only 16mm so it can work in 4k24p giving you about 12/13mm or 4k60 (16mm)and still be wide enough for real estate etc. Since I also have considered what you mentioned before purchasing the 11mm I thought I would mention it. I saw Amazon US is selling the 11mm right now for $498 so that is a okay price IMO There might be a link in my bio if you decide you want the lens. Hope that helps. Thanks again for watching and see you around the channel! Cheers
I’d like to see this lens with active stabilization plus the 10% upscale vs the Sony 14mm 1.8 GM.
Field of view I think the look might be similar however the lens is too big imo and theres no threading to add filters, specifically ND’s. However, I think the image quality would be superior but not for 2.5 times the price. And the 11 mm has the little trick that it can battle the 1.5 times crop for Sony cameras that have the 4K60 crop. Like on the A7iv. Make it 16mm. But the 14mm GM suddenly becomes 21. And even tighter with active. But I think I will actually grab the 14 GM to test it out because a lot of people have been asking me about that comparison. Thanks for watching man and appreciate you leaving a comment.
I love my A7IV as an apsc video camera with light lenses
Hey Sidehustlers. Definitely! I love having that option! Thanks for your insight. Appreciate you watching the video! Cheers
Nice video, this lens look very good for my work, ty for share greetings
Greetings Arturo! Glad it helps you and I think will love it, I really like the picture quality from it and so useful! Cheers! Hope to See you around the channel more!
Great video, great style! Did it generate a vignette for you? Did you have to crop it?
Hey Diego! Yeah it still has a bit of a vignette if you’re moving the camera around, otherwise not when it is stationary. I usually crop in a bit in post. But it still gives you a super unique view! Ive also seen a lot of creators lately use it in FF mode and no stabilization keeping the vignette for creative look/ style. Thanks for watching. And appreciate you leaving a comment. Have a good slide into the New Year!
That didn't eliminate the vignette. When you turned on active stabilization, you can still see the vignette shading on the corners...
Yep thats true. I did mention its best to zoom in another 10 percent. Either in post or with clear image zoom. Theres one example near the end of the vid.
This is really cool! bit of a fish eye effect but such a nice option to have!
Hey T. I agree definitely not something i would always use but good yo have when needed. Im actually surprised how well the distortion is handled! Thanks for the watching. Much appreciated!
Great video man! I m gonna get this and yor video just solidified my decision!! My guitar videos will look way cooler with this lens coupled with my ZV E10.. Thank you 🙂 Subbed!!
Hey! Glad you found and are part of the channel now. The lens has been awesome! I think you will really like it! Pumped the video helped you! I'll keep on eye out for your guitar vids! Cheers man!
I have just bought this to use on my new ZV-E10…It’s good to know as i progress it works well on the A7 etc…thanks
No problem! I think the lens is perfect for the zv-e10! And if you ever upgrade to any full frame you can still make good use of it! Thanks for watching!
@@MichaelNgvyen I tried it briefly last night and what a difference,it’s amazing!
I will have to do a little review on it myself shortly…thanks
@@gtretroworld thanks awesome to hear. Tag me in the video when you make it. Would love to see it!
The best of information.
Jerrybiker!! Thank you so much!
Hey man! Great video! I am really in between Viltrox 13mm f1.4 vs Sony 11mm f1.8 for my fx 30.
I am looking for video shooting mostly(like ancient ruins, zoo, jungle, hiking, church, streets animals) and some photos here and there. I am also going to shoot talking head videos in door. I am also planning to use 4k 120fps option in Fx30 which has 1.5 more crop on top of apsc crop!
I need to know 3 important aspects about these lenses!
1- f1.8 vs f.1.4 How big of the difference especially for low light in door recordings with my fx30! I am bit worried about sensor being apsc and underperforms in low light. So should i really prioritize 1.4 over 1.8? I have done some research and find out 1.4 lets almost 2 times amount light than 1.8!
2- I am really worried about distortion that sony 11mm has. I know we can use in camera corrections on fx30 body! But for me while shooting talking head i dont want my face to look weird because of extreme wide angle and distortion! Is it a problem with sony lens? Also while shooting some historical places i would not want to see curved lines!
3- I am a bit worried about viltrox 13mm image quality! Sony looks way better, much punchier, much sharper and it is also a native lens for fx30! Also both lenses are same price in my country! Should i value that sony is native, have better focusing performance and same price with viltrox or should i go for viltrox and give up from that 2 mm but get brighter aperture and less distorted but less punchy and less sharp image quality with viltrox!
Thanks in advance!
Hey man! I have no experience with the Viltrox so I will speak about the Sony 11mm only.
I’ll address your main concern first.l, the distortion. For video I don’t have any issues with that. I have a few vlogs and have also shot some talking heads and not an issue. Pictures have a bit but easily corrected. With the really really good fast AF and fantastic image quality, I would pick that over have Viltrox 1.4. The lens is so wide anyways. Im not sure if 1.4 would make a huge difference. But I also shoot with the A7iv and have good iso performance. Not sure how it is with the fx30. Hope that gives you good insight on the Sony 11. Thanks for watching!
I would have liked to see what the full frame in 4k 60 is. I think if i bought a ff camera i would like to use use a lense to its full potential, i see in the sony website that its a 35mm in a ff equivalent, im assuming thats what the crop does. Its nice that it works but there is defiently distortion on the edges.
Hi Angel, On the Sony A7iv it is not possible to use FULL FRAME in 4K60. You can only use it in the CROP MODE aka (APSC mode) sometimes they also call it Super35 mode. The lens is a APSC lens so even though it says 11mm, but the lens is actually 16.5mm in 35mm FF equivalent. A lot of people are getting this lens for the Sony A7iv so they can get the 16.5mm look in 4K60 for Slo mo. In this video I was showing another way to use the lens and how to get an extra wide look in full frame mode.(4k24). The distortion only happens in Full frame mode and well this lens wasn't meant for that. just a fun way to use it and get a different look. But yeah thanks for watching and leaving a comment. Hopefully that all made sense.
@@MichaelNgvyen thank you for the reply.ok so my question is. When NOT used in 4k60 so lets say 4k30 or 1080 60.
Will this lense automaticaly shoot in crop mode when put on the IV? Or can i use the fullframe mode but it will show the endges like you showed? I want to get this lense but it really isnt a 11mm equivalen on the a7iv correct? Because what i mean is that i need a wide angle lens that if a true 11mm used in fullframe. Because if that was the case i would rather get the equivalent of this lense in full frame original form. Which you said its about 16mm?
Just landed on your page, and I really like your color grade on your video ;)
Hey Alex. Glad you found my channel. Thanks for leaving a comment and watching! Appreciate the compliment in the colour. Thats one thing I’m always trying to improve. I’m working on a colour grade video. Hopefully that will provide you with some valuable info. See you around.
this is so helpful for a7iv users
Yes totally! Thats why I’ve been so excited to share how I’ve been using it. Appreciate the watch and the comment Martin! 🙏🏽
Really useful video! Thanks
Hi. Glad that it was! Appreciate you taking the time to leave a comment. Thanks so much!
In full frame mode, the image can warp/wobble and look like jello if there is any kind of movement like vlogging, so I'm not sure if it's a great option. It looks great in static shots though.
I have shot a full moving/walking and talking vlog with it and there is not a lot of wobble or warp. The biggest concern is actually a bit of vignetting that shows up in up shots. Easily fixed though. Hope that insight helps you. And thanks for your input. Appreciate you watching
@@MichaelNgvyen I think the key words are "not a lot of", but it's there. Maybe my eye is just really sensitive to it, but it looks horrible to me. With a bit more motion, it's very pronounced.
I don't understand why spend $2k on good video camera and then cripple it with jello/wobble, loss of functionality like dynamic stabe, hinder the sophisticated image processor that usually removes many artefacts like this, but it just can't work correctly with an APS-C lens.
Forget the vignette, the vignette you can fix, everything else, you cannot, even with heavy cropping (with non static shots that is). But the amount of crop you need to do, you're also losing a fair bit of resolution too.
There are cheap options like the Samyang 18mm F2.8, Sigma 17mm F4, etc. I personally think this has far too many drawbacks, but that's just my opinion - it clearly works for a lot of people :)
Totally fair! I definitely am very cautious with my movement when using the lens.
@@DigiDriftZone comparing 17mm to potentially 12-13mm lmao. shows you have no clue.
@@gelade "potentially" is unusable, you need a 35%+ crop so 16mm at best. The Viltrox 16mm f/1.8 is good if you don't mind the weight, that's what I went with to compliment the Samyang 18mm which weighs nothing, really great travel lens.
Nice Video my friend, Which is the best for Low light Real Estate video shoots Sony 11mm f1.8 or Viltrox 13mm f1.4 with Sony ZV-E10?
Hi Hridai. The 11 for sure, because on the ZV-e10. It will give you 16mm lookwhich in my opinion is the tightest you should be for real estate. The viltrox is 19.5mm look. The difference of 1.8 and 1.4 is minor. Plus the autofocus will be much more reliable. As the Sony 11mm has fast and accurate AF. Hope that helps you!! Thanks for watching!
Thank you for this video and for your time for us, a74 users :) just one question: I use only 800 and 3200 iso for the base iso “rule” of the a74 and usually I Record video with +1/2 steps over to have correct exposure . Is this a good method for you too?
(Which color corrections you have in this video, looks amazing!) thank you in advance for your answer
Hi Francesco! Appreciate the nice words. I’m happy to share any findings to hopefully help all of us! So with your described settings, I’m assume you are shooting with SLOG 3. I will typically try expose +1.7. And I find that works good. This video I actually used s-cinetone and exposed to 0. But to answer your question. Regardless of what PP i used. Once i have it balanced (transformed to rec709). I try to drop my mid-tones and then balance out the shadows and highlights using colour wheels. I have a lut im working on and testing so hopefully I can share that soon too. Maybe I will make a video that will explain it all and and show my colour grade workflow to help everyone better rather than a long comment lol. Anyways. I hope that wasn’t confusing. Thanks for engaging and appreciate your support. Hope to see you around the channel some more!
This lens vs the Sigma 10-18 f2.8 ?
thanks for the review very cool
Thanks for watching. Glad it could helpful hopefully!
Hey, first of all. great video! I have multiple questions to ask.
1) I have been using my sony a7III for almost 5 years doing company event support, travel and product unboxing on my channel. I lately felt like switching to a7IV thinking the higher megapixel will give me a better photos if I go travel around the world again as I wanted to polish my port folio. I don't do freelance large events at all at this point. Do you think I should keep my a7III and spend my money to get an fx30 for the 10bit and having a B-cam while doing unboxing? Is a7IV higher megapixel be a lot better compare to a7III lower megapixel?
2) or should I just upgrade to a7IV and continue to be the hybrid shooter and maybe get a second hand zve-10 as B-cam?
3) I would love to see the a7IV with Tamron 11-20 f2.8 as well, So i don't have to spend a lot of money for Sony 16-35 GM.
Hey Nelson, firstly thanks for watching! Ok so my first gut reaction is to say you should get the fx30. Since you wint shoot corporate photos and just the ones for travel and products the A7iii is still perfect. it hard to see the difference between the 24 and 33. Unless you realy pixel peep. But the fx30 will support your videos need better and greatly be improved from the a7iii. With 10bit and 4k60 being the biggest factor. So in short. Use fx30 for video and a7iii for pictures. Plus if you’re in a pinch you can still get 26mp from the fx30. I’ve also though about the zve10, but I dunno if i can go back to 8bit and no s-cinetone. Hope that helps you and hope to see you around the channel more. Let me know what you end up deciding on!
@@MichaelNgvyen that’s brilliant! Thank you so much for getting back to me and cleared my doubts. I have been thinking long and hard of what should I buy. Not easy for some one like me with average earnings to buy something and regret down the road. Hey, thanks man. Subscribed ;)
wait at 9:12 is that 11mm 1.8 on full frame with active stab (1.1 crop) without any clear image zoom?
Yep! The outro was yes! As long as you’re not moving the camera side to side it works really well. If you move it too fast some vignetting will show! Thanks for leaving a comment Chris. Appreciate you watching it all the way through! Cheers!
looks good
Thank you so much!
Great video. I'll be shooting indoors and hndheld outdoors walking around on an a6700 and I think this is gonna work.
I love this compact lens. It will be perfect for indoors. I think you’ll really enjoy it
this is a great review. I really liked this lens i have sony a6700 i like wide angle but not too wide 😅 I do travel vlogging but love cinematic, a little zoomed in shots
I have the kit lens 16-50mm
need one for better low light, portraits and astro
i am really confused between this one and sigma 16mm/f1.4, with sigma the crop with active stabilisation is a concern
would love to hear your thoughts
Thanks
Hi Shubhangimore, Thanks for the comment. The sony 11 would be a great lens for everything you mentioned. Vlogging, low light and astro. On the A6700 it would be 16mm and with active stabilization it would still about 18mm. Think the Sigma 16 is too tight, But another great option for you is the Sigma 10-18 2.8 gives you wide options and then paired with your kit lens you have a big range of focal lengths. Sigma 10-18 if you want some flexibility or Sony 11 of you want more lowlight capability. Hope that helps. Cheers
Hi Michael, could you clarify how you’re using APSC mode on 4k? The camera says it can only shoot in HD on that mode
Hi Rach. If you are using the Sony A7iv, when the APSC / crop mode is activated. It simply crops in on the sensor. It doesn’t affect the 4k resolution. The camera shoots in APSC automatically when you set it to 4k 60fps. But in 4k 24fps or 30. You can toggle to be full frame or apsc mode. I have the apsc s35 shooting mode set to a custom button so I can turn it on and off whenever I need to switch . Hope that makes sense.
@@MichaelNgvyen I’m using the Sony zve1 not the a7IV. Not sure if that makes a difference
@@rachcastellino hI Rach. ahh yes it does! because the sensor on the A7iv is 33mp so there is enough resolution to still shoot in 4k in APSC s35 mode. But on the ZVE1, like the A7siii there is only 12mp so you are right. 4k is not possible in APSC s35 mode.
Great video! But quick question. Is a APS-C f1.8 apeture lens still a F1.8 apeture on a Full frame camera?
Thanks Han! There’s sort of 2 answers. Is the lowlight performance still 1.8? Yes. It still has the 1.8 light gathering ability. But if you are talking about the out of focus area( bokeh) then it is more like 2.8. But with such a wide look its hard to get super blurry bokeh I find anyways. Hope that makes sense. Thanks for watching!
@@MichaelNgvyen thank you for your reply! Thats exactly what i needed to know🙌
Thanks for this video
Thanks ruff draft! Appreciate you watching! Happy to see you part of the community! Cheers!
Can you test and see if Catalyst Browse works with this combo? Would be awesome to use that ultra wide full frame footage plus Catalyst Browse.
I will definitely do that! Thanks for the suggestion! I was working on a catalyst browse video. Will add this into it!
Nice explanation.
Do we get the same quality like full frame lenses with this lens? I have already 20 mm but I am looking for more wider lens for my Sony a7siii.
Plz Suggest.
With the A7siii there is no crop to worry about. It has full sensor read out in all modes 4k60 and 4k120. So I would get a full frame lens. There’s 14mm 1.8 or the 12-24 f4 or f2.8. That would be my suggestion and a better for for thr a7siii
@@MichaelNgvyen Thanks 😊🙏
I have the 10-18mm f4 and my a7iii doesn’t correct distortion like the apsc 6000 does. Is that lens more compatible for photos? Thanks
For the Sony 11mm. You still have to correct distortion for photos manually or with a lens profile. But in video the distortion is very well controlled in my opinion. I hope that answers your question.
Thanks Michael, just purchased this glass from Best Buy. Why can I see the circular edge of the lens, do I have setting wrong? There is a round black mask circle around every image. The lens can see the edges and limits view. A7SII
Hey Ryan. For the A7sii you have to use the crop mode. Which will give the 11mm a 16mm Field of view. Hopefully that answers your question. Let me know! And thanks for watching
@@MichaelNgvyen APC solved it, thanks
I have a question: does autofocus work properly? Do I have to use manual auto focus?
The autofocus is perfect. Face/ Eye tracking is locked on and the autofocus is smooth and completely silent.
@@MichaelNgvyen Thank you for your answer🫡
Would you ever use clear image zoom to eliminate the vignette all together?
Yes that can work but you will lose eye AF so I with active on its fine to monitor using the screen and zoom in a but in post works best!
What filtre do you use ?
Hi. I use a 62mm vnd from moment with a step up ring from 55-62.
so the apsc sony mount actually works on FF? will it work the same with other Apsc's like the 15 tamron 17-100 etc ?
Hey Adi. Yep! all the Sony e-mount lenses work on a Sony camera’s wether full frame or apsc. Thanks for asking. If you have any other questions let me know! Cheers!
i would like to see images by 11mm F1.8 and 10-20mm F4 G to compare.. Advise me ... I cant decide which one is for my needs - People,landscape and portrait background blur.. for my camera A6500
Hi Toh! I think if you want a lens that can shoot people and landscapes the 10-20 will be better for you. The 11 won't be so great and peoples faces, background blur will be OK. But if you really want background blur from the A6500 (I used to have the camera) the 11mm will be better for that. I know that won't help you so much im sorry!
Can you also do clear image zoom in addition to active stabilization to get rid of the vignetting entirely when recording in full frame mode? I was thinking of getting this lens for my A6700. It’s nice to know that it is also usable in a full frame body.
Yes you absolutely can!!! The caveat is on the Sony A7iv you lose the eye/face tracking. However I believe with the newer a7r5 and zv-e1 you still get that in clear image zoom. A6700 looks like a great camera. Definitely consider this lens, it is super versatile and can be used in so many ways. Appreciate you watching. Hope it helps your buying decision. Cheers Carmelo!
I just bought the a6700 and also ordered the sony 11mm 1.8. What is the clear image zoom??
@@hamurabidios Hey Manos. Its an option in your settings that you can assign to a custom button and it will allow you to zoom in digitally without too much quality loss. So your 11mm can have a bit of extra reach! Hope that helps! Thanks for watching, appreciate it! Enjoy uour new camera and lens!
Hey, what variable nd filter to use with this lens? 55mm or some 82mm with some step-up ring's?
Hi. I have 67mm VND’s for my smaller lenses, and I use one 55-67 step up. Thanks for watching!
@MichaelNgvyen thanks for the quick response. Is there some vignette because of stepup? 😊
Hello, thank you for your test about sony 11mm F1.8 on A74. My style of photography is 100% photo only, if i need to take some video, i just using insta360onex3. So the following is my question, apsc len on full frame camera, that mean the megapixels will drop to 1400 as A74... Is it enough for put on FB/IG only?because i planning to buy Sony 20 F1.8 for arsto... If 1400 megapixels is enough, i am sure i will change the decision as half price, more wide angle and same F1.8
Hey Max. Thanks for watching! I think using the 11mm in crop mode would be plenty enough if you are just posting to web! It still 16 megapixels. I made a video on my channel about how even 12 megapixels is more than enough ( iphone and A7siii).
th-cam.com/video/cJ3gpGxnUwM/w-d-xo.html
Plus if you use it in full frame mode you might be able to get a 13mm view after you crop out the vignetting , and still get about 24megapixels , to go even wider in your pictures! Thanks for watching and asking your question. Hope that helps you out a bit
Would love to hear your thoughts on this vs 14mm 1.8 G
Definitely will be comparing these two lenses for 24fps. Thanks for your suggestions!
For almost $1.1k less you get a 13mm instead of a 14mm. 😆
@@v3zMedia your’re not wrong. This lens is a insane deal! 😅
I have the a7iv too. If I record with this lens in 4k24fps in aps-c mode with active stabilization on it will give me 1.6x crop…is there any additional crop when filming in 4k60fps or will it top out at 1.6x crop?
Nope. There is no additional crop. In apcs mode in all the frame rates the max crop will be 1.6 with active and 1.5 with normal stabilization. And in full frame mode on 24 or 30 fps with active its about a 1.2 crop giving you approximately 13mm field of view. Hope that helps! Thanks for watching the video! Appreciate it man!
Hello! I will recive tomorrow Sony ZV E10 and the 11 mm lens. Can i use ND filters without vignetting on this wide angle? Do i need a bigger filter with a step up ring? Thanks!
Hey Claudiu. It definitely a really wide look so. The diameter is 55 so maybe you could use that and mot get vignetting but for reference I use a 67 and it works great! Hopefully that helps you! Excited for you to get your gear! Happy creating!
im going to buy this lens to pair with fx30
I think it will be an amazing combo! I think i will test lens with the fx30 vs the A7iv.
@@MichaelNgvyen hmmm... interesting...
What color profile do you use?
Everything in this video was S-cinetone.
Would this lens work for the sony a7iii? Full frame With active stabilization
Well the A7iii doesn’t have active stabilization but it will still have the crop mode or full frame look. You will just have to do a but of post crop in full frame mode. It can still give you that super wide 13mm ish look
that is really very cool thank you for reviewing this lens Thank you I’m buying it
No problem! Happy to give insight. Been using it a tone to get some cool perspectives. I think you’ll really like the lens! Thanks for watching and leaving a comment.
can I put this lens on an sony a7iii ?
Hi Kanegi. The short answer is yes. It will still give you a nice wide 16mm look. So stil a great lens choice if you want a cheaper and light wide lens with autofocus. The long answer is: When you put it on the a7iii just like the a7iv, The camera goes into crop mode which will give you a 16.5mm wide look. But you can’t really use the lens in full frame mode like you can on the a7iv, because the a7iii does not have active stabilization. But still a good option for the A7iii for a wide angle lens. Hope that made sense for you. Thanks for watching
right, is that without the apsc mode on ?
Yep! Exactly 👍🏾
@@MichaelNgvyen good to know thanks !
HI, great video! wanna ask if i will shhot 4k 50p this will double crop? not 16.5? thanky
Hi. thanks for the comment! No, I bought this lens so I can get the 16.5 wide look in 4k50 or 4k60. It only does the crop once! Hope that helps you! Thanks for watching. see you around the channel more hopefully! Cheers
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Thanks for watching man! Appreciate it!
Honestly it doesn't eliminate the vignetting camon...I'll really hoping but...no...
You’re right. I mean the full frame mode is a hack so its not perfect. Zooming in a bit in post will give a very wide look with a low cost lens with a good image. Just giving people some insight and possible options
@@MichaelNgvyen yes I know...I try different apsc lenses on my Sony Zve1 with the hope I can have a small usable lens but everytime is a compromise...in the end apsc mode is the only way to have a clean image
@@lb_projekt well I appreciate the insight. Honestly sometimes I don’t mind the vignetting for some vlogging type content. The 11mm is the perfect size for the ZVe1. I really want that camera! Appreciate your thoughts and input. Thanks for watching the video! Cheers!
Can I shoot photos with 11(12mm) on my Sony a7iv?
Hey Tim! Yes you totally can! I made a video shooting a bunch of street photos in crop and FF mode. You can check out some snaps here if you want.
th-cam.com/video/f6EYI_J82lw/w-d-xo.htmlsi=ug6-VdXJ94FUjn7p
Thanks for watching the video and leaving your comment. Appreciate your time. Cheers
@@MichaelNgvyen thank you so much ♥
does this work with photo as well? or it only works with 4k 24p and 30p?
Mainly just for video in 24p and 30p, because you need the active stabilization to get rid of the vignette. But in theory. You could take a photo and crop out the vignetting in lightroom/photoshop to give you a wide look for your photo. But much easier to just buy a Fullframe 12mm lens. Thanks for watching and leaving a comment Hug. Cheers!
@@MichaelNgvyen : ) thank you! your answer and the video was informative
What is the name of your monitor in the bg?
It’s the Hauwei Mateview :)
İ am thinking to buy it for real estate shooting but i saw some videos , this lens with full frame sony cameras it gets almost fully black on the corners , is there a solution without cropping
Yes, buy a full-frame lens like Sony 15mm f1.8 GM.
Hey Ömer. Yes you can but you still have to crop in a little bit. Just like the examples in the video. Just use it in full frame mode. If you’re using it the Sony a7iii you can zoom in 20 percent in post. Or with the a7iv turn on active stabilization and then zoom in 10 percent in post. You will get about a 13mm equivalent look. Hope that helps!
@@MichaelNgvyen so i can not use these settings on sony a 7 iii that you made , so if i use it in full frame mode i have to crop it i understand that , but i dont want to crop it on post producton to be honest , if i chose setting on camera apsc mode with this lens , am i right that i will get a almost 16mm lens ? Because if its like that it is fair enough for me bacause the price range and quality is really looks nice👍🏽
@@omerbulbul8185 if you put the lens on the sony A7iii it will automatically give you 16mm look, yes. No black corners and you dont need to crop. If you want to get even wider. Just put your A7ii back into full frame mode. And you can use clear image zoom and zoom in a little bit in camera to get rid of the black corners that will give you 13mm look. With basically no loss in quality.
I have an FX30, how do I switch to fullframe mode? 🤐🙂
Hey universeofsound! Unfortunately you cant with the fx30 because its a crop sensor. The hack Only with the full frame Sony’s. (Fx3, a7iv etc. ). But you have a really dope camera! How do you like it? Thanks for watching and leaving a comment man!
Great video and especially great sound. Would you pick the 11mm apsc over the the 20mm full frame version and why?
Hey thank you! Im always so self conscious about the sound. So really appreciate the comment. I own both so it depends. The 11 gives you the 16mm look in 4k60 for slo mo since the A74 crops. Thats the main reason I got it. But the bonus is you can use it to go extra wide. But the 20 has superior image quality. So if I had to pick one it would be the 20mm you just have to be mindful of how wide you need. Appreciate you watching !
Does it fit/work on a7iii?
Yep it does! The only big difference is in full frame mode. You have to crop/zoom in a bit with either clear image zoom or in post, because the a7iii doesn’t have active stabilization. Hope that helps you! Appreciate your time!
So Im in between of choosing fx30 or a7iv and you are convincing me to get a7iv LOL
Hi Zaur. Both are such great camera's! A good problem I guess LOL. If you are strictly video. I think the fx30 could be great. It does have the 4k120 an advantage if you shoot a lot of slo mo. But if you also want to take some picture I think the A7iv is a no brainer.. Th EVF is a much better way to see focus and sharpness and especially in super sunny conditions. I also like that you kind of have two sensor size options with the crop mode! BUT No wrong choice I would say. Let me know what you end up decided on! Thanks for finding my channel. Cheers man!
@@MichaelNgvyen hi! Thanks for responding! Yeah I got a7iv yesterday 😎 and I absolutely LOVE IT!!!
@@ZaurGT yes man! Thats great! Stoked for you!
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Hey Nick. Thank you for the support. Appreciate it 🙏
What you think compare to 10-20mm f4?
Hey Scott! I think the 10-20 is really quite good. I know someone who uses it. You can get a lot of different wide and medium wide options in both apsc mode and full frame mode. If you shoot often in low light situations. That might be the only slight draw back! Thanks for comment Scott!
You are a doer. The only way to know is to do.
No, it doesn't eliminate all of the vignetting.
Great video! Is this the same for the Sony a7iii?
Hey thanks David! Well yes it does! A bit different. When you put on the lens it pits you in apsc mode. But just put it back in full frame mode and You have to use clear image zoom and zoom in to about 1.2 or 1.3. (You dont have to do this reaaly with the a7iv because of active stabilization.) And it will get rid of the vignetting! It will give you the 12.1 or 13mm look. Works for video and jpeg photos. Hope that helps! Thanks for watching man!
@@MichaelNgvyen thanks mate 🙌🏼
this is not a full frame lens. The pictures will be considerably reduced in quality
Not in video. Quality is the same. And I find same goes for photos. And yes, it’s not a full frame lens so when you’re taking photos, the mega pixels are reduced. But on my Sony7iv the megapixels is still 14.5. So I find that quality more than enough, especially for social media.
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请问a74使用这个镜头的时候再apsc下焦距是16 那光圈的1.8会变成多少呢?
GOOD REVIEW @kristianoimpress
Thanks Kristiano!