DISAPPOINTING BASSOON PRODUCTS
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 ส.ค. 2024
- Hi Guys! I buy a lot of Bassoon Goodies. It is only natural I don't Love All of Them. I take you through the items I've bought that broke quickly, were not what I expected or didn't live up to the hype.
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Hey Eryn! About your case, I think I have a great option for you. I would look into the Protec Bassoon case. There's one on Amazon for $150 and I'm extremely happy with it. I feel that it does have the same problem on leaning over as the kobyl case, but it's no big deal. The Bocal storage is a little strange, but it works. It has backback straps you can buy separately that are from the same company, so it works fantastically. The molding inside forms to your bassoon, and there is PLENTY of padding room your extra long long joint.
+jordanxfarber You're the best! I've had a Protec Case when I first bought my bassoon and was told to upgrade due to the amount of travel that I do. I needed a heavy duty reinforced case which is probably why the case is SO Heavy. But I appreciate you thinking of me and taking the time to offer a solution. :) Big thanks!
I'm a beginning bassoon player so thank you for informing me on what bassoon products to not buy
You're welcome. Thanks for watching. :)
If you don't mind the taste of listerine, a product for reeds I absolutely have to recommend is the Reedjuvinate. I have one for alto sax and bassoon, and it works wonders. Keeps your reeds humidified in the chamber with listerine vapor, while also obviously disinfecting them and preventing mold and things from growing. The reeds are basically ready to play out of the chamber with no problems. They are a bit pricey though. I found the best deal for the bassoon Reedjuvinate on eBay, and the best deal for sax/clarinet on amazon.
I don't mind the taste of Listerine but it can destroy the fibers in a reed causing them to break down more quickly. I have also heard of MOLD happening in these reed cases regardless of the manufacturer's goals! Be careful.
Love your videos! It's extremely difficult to find a good bassoon/instrument channel around here, so I'm glad that you continue to make videos! Can't wait for the next one :)
+JustSomeGal Sans Thank you So Much! Your comment made my day!
Haha I don’t play bassoon but I might in the near future I actually play double bass. With the wire if you want it to be smaller and more manageable, you could probably buy a plastic spool from office works or somewhere and just neatly wrap the wire around that yourself.
i play tenor sax and bassoon. you have helped me starting with bassoon! i love your videos!!!
That's awesome! Thanks for watching and let me know if you have any video suggestions. :)
OMG me too!!! 🎵🎶🎵🎶🎵
Hi Eryn. When buying brass wire, be sure to get it soft tempered or annealed. I pre-cut 3" lengths for the 1st and 2nd wire and 4" lengths for the 3rd wire. I keep these cut lengths in capped plastic tubes. If you need to carry wire with you, cut lengths in plastic tubes take up hardly any space.
+NCF8710 Fantastic! May I ask- Where did you get the plastic tubes? Hardware Store? And yes- I do normally buy the soft brass wire. I think that is why I was so shocked that it wasn't soft wire from Charles Music. And it isn't noted on the website that it is not soft wire.
+Eryn Oft I got the tubes from the lab where I work. These same plastic test tubes are available on Amazon and are pretty inexpensive. The 125mm tubes are good for the 3" and 4" wires. The 100mm tubes are good for the 3" wires which are the ones you are most likely to carry. You may also want to try looking at a crafts store for these tubes. Good luck!
+NCF8710 thank you!
+Eryn Oft I got given a reed off a company that came in a small plastic container - perfect size for wire cuts!
I use available anywhere and basically free drinking straws for similarly shaped items. Heat seal both ends with flame, and voila! safe and waterproof travel container. Heck, plastic coffee stirrers may be better for your purpose, as they are more rigid and your wire awg is surely not too thick.
Nice to see an honest review that saves money. I use copper wire from a store on Etsy called MTsupplies in Turkey. Very pleased with it.
100% look at Wisemann cases! They have a plethora of cases and make each case individually. So I’m sure they could probably accommodate an extra long long joint!
Best wishes, love the video!
I know.. I wish they had a better storage option for music with the cases. That has been my main reason for holding back on the Wisemann cases.
Honestly, the best reed soaking cup I’ve ever found was using a plastic film container from camera film.
Eryn you should check with the manufacturer or the supplier that the brass wire is actually SOFT brass. I've had that problem with some cheaper suppliers, and the brass probably wasn't reannealed after it was formed.
+Vincent Ellin Thanks! Glad to hear that I am not alone in this!
I've owned different Heckels over the years and sold many more, that is the first time I've seen or heard of a long joint being just slightly too long - it's a gorgeous instrument, I'm looking into a mid 12 again if I can sell my Yamaha and pool some other funds (will keep the older Heckel I have)
Hello Eryn, nice videos, good info! Don't throw away the Charles wire, just cut it to the lengths you want and anneal it. You can place the wires on a brick in a heat resistant location, ( outside or kitchen), and heat the wire until it glows slightly, you can cool it in water. There may be some scale or pinking of the wire and it won't be pretty, but it will work better. If you need the wire to shine just clean the scale with 1000 grit sandpaper. I have done this with hard wire before and it always works. I use a small torch for cooking that I also use to heat my mandrel for reed making.
+marydoob Hi Mary! Thanks for the suggestion. That is awesome. I will have to give it a try! I would have never thought of this without your help. Thanks for watching and sharing. :)
+Eryn Oft Hey! Yeah, I need to sign my name, it's Steve. I share my email and user name with my wife. She is also a bassoonist, but not a bassoon nerd like I am, I am the Doob part of the name.
Good to know! A family of bassoonists! How Lucky is THAT?!? :)
I have a Kolbl case, it came with my Moosmann bassoon. I quite like it, but I can't comment on the backpack function since I almost don't use it that way. The case only falls in a V-shape when I remove the bassoon while there is a lot of music in the sheet music pocket. Unloading the sheet music pocket first is the simple solution. I don't feel the case can be blamed because the bassoon doesn't fit. I rather think it's the bassoon that causes the problem.
This is the first I’ve ever heard of the slightly longer long joint. Very interesting. What number is your bassoon? Mine was 10488, and looks a lot like this in every way, but I never tried fitting it into a different case.
Hi there- The serial number for my Heckel is 10717. It is presumably a Herzberg bassoon. Here's a link to more information th-cam.com/video/-mpX20fJbzk/w-d-xo.html in case you're curious.
Nice video - Thanks! My 10488 has a left-hand little-finger whisper key, and though I may not have ordered that if I had been buying it new, it does turn out to be very useful!
Again, all these keywork options require care in assembling the instrument. Sometimes you just long for a good old 7000 series....
I brought a Tom and WIll bassoon case. I've been really happy with that as it has back pack straps and is well padded. The only downside is that the pockets aren't that big so you may have to keep things in a bag instead of in the case
+Kerry Spence Thanks for the mini review! I love me some good pockets so I may keep looking. But thanks for thinking of me! Always fun to hear what people are buying.
I'd break the cup on purpose, that way I could then use a better glue so it wouldn't break again. btw your channel is awesome
LOL! I should have thought of that. And thanks for watching. :)
Bona rulez! I got a Bam case that I wonder what were they THINKING?! I had to study the idea to get my bassoon back into it (was it this way? no.... was it that way? no... hey where is my wing joint?? oh under the other one... right...) on top of that it is big lump of "thing" and totally unpractical. I also got a case from ProTec that has no backpack function, but LOADS of room for knickknacks and an "added squishy bit" that i think can be easily removed to accommodate for a longer joint. But then the no backpack is a bit of a nono. so out the three i own: Bona rulez! it fits snuggly and there is still room to put the so much needed accessories. and hey! my airbook fits in the front pocket to. so handy.
+Elkeliini1 Thank you so much! Always good to hear what is working for everybody and why! :)
Hi! remember me? I recently hit the high B flat on bassoon and am getting better every day! I would love it if you could post more. beginner tips for getting out those higher and lower notes! I love your videos and will keep you posted on my journey on bassoon!
+Raven Black YAY! That is so cool! Way to go! I will see what I can do. Thanks for the Video Request! :)
you can buy brass wire at hobby shops: perfect stuff, for instance 11 meter (0.6mm) for less than $2 (easily 4-8 times cheaper than specialised bassoon shops). I have several adresses in Europe where I buy it but I am sure the stuff is also available in the USA.
You're right! I buy most of my wire at hardware stores. In my area the hobby shops don't carry it- people around here need to get crafty. :)
Try Americase in Waxahatche (Sp) Tx. I had them build a custom travel case for my Contra a number of years ago and they were great to work with. They can give you a number of options of materials. I don't think they do "soft" cases. They can build a "Wiseman" like case that may suit your or a student's needs for compact design and durability.
ERYN, HI. YOU MIGHT GIVING WALT JOHNSON CASES A TRY. THEY ARE EXCELLENT.
HI there- Do you have a link to the product, please?
Very interesting, even though I’m an amateur Clarinet player! But I have recently reconnected with my friend from high school who I was in Band with; his wife plays bassoon in several community orchestras, so I forwarded this video to him. Also, I cannot even imagine making your own reeds!
Thanks for the forward! Glad to know that I have some non bassoon friends out there making music keeping up with my adventures. Happy Music Making to You!
You had me at "brass wire" this time, Eryn!
I have an Atari bassoon case that I bought and used because it was light weight but it has a side pocket that I loaded up which made it heavier than any other case I've ever had. So, I'm back to my old case and will sell the Atari inexpensively.
LOL! I've done this same thing. Now I limit what is allowed in my case. :)
greetings.
can you describe and compare in a separate video, the puchner and the heckel bassoons?
In case you're looking for a good magnetic reed water container, check out Hoboista in the UK. The magnets are secured with a plastic jacket wrapped around the cup. I've had mine since the summer and haven't had any issues, they seem pretty great. They're not always 100% water tight and the lid is pretty basic, but I've never had any serious leaking, just some drops if I didn't close it well.
Good to know! I will check it out. :)
I'm going to start bassoon really soon, and it's my dream instrument. Thanks so much for the video!!
Woohoo! Happy to help. Would love to be updated as you make your way through your bassoon adventures! :)
Eryn Oft I'm playing bassoon in my high school band now and I love it so much. It's everything I thought it would be and more.
Hi Eryn, I accidentally bought copper 22 gauge wire instead of the standard brass... it took some getting use to (because I'm cheap and will absolutely use something I've bought), but I found that the copper is very light so it doesn't crush the tube or constrict the sound as much as brass. Just a heads up if you ever want to do a video on what different types of wire do for our sound and playing!
+Cory Jones Annealed brass (65/35) has a higher ultimate tensile strength (48K PSI vs 32K PSI) than annealed copper wire. It also has a greater elongation (60% vs 45%) than copper. This means that annealed brass can withstand more stress and will be less apt to break when twisted. Also, the brass can stretch more than copper before breaking. As a side note, brass is more corrosion resistant than copper. I don't know what the effect of using copper wire has on the sound of the reed. It would be interesting to perform a controlled experiment using copper wire.
While I do come across the issue of wires snapping if I pull too hard, the amount of time mine spend in action hasn't been long enough yet to let them corrode. They stay in place very nicely, and as I said, make it nearly impossible to crush the throat of a reed while forming.
+Cory Jones I've used Copper Wire in the past for an added fourth wire but never for the whole reed. This is a great idea to play around with, especially as it would not create a longterm unalterable change. Thanks for sharing.
I got a bassoon seat strap for Christmas, and the hook broke a little under 2 months later.
That's tragic! It sounds like maybe it was not well made? You could always buy a new hook.
i believe I have a case by the same people. The zipper teeth are plastic and frayed off on the corners meaning the zipper is now non functional. The only things keeping my bassoon in my bassoon case is a flap of velcro and hope. Considering how my instrument is the most expensive thing I own, I'm not particularly happy
Sounds like it's time for an upgrade!
Very nice channel, unfortunately we can't easily find such amazing bassoon related content in TH-cam, I'd love to see more videos of you talking about our lovely instrument. Thanks and keep on with the good work!!
BTW, do you know Marcus Bonna Cases? (www.mbcases.com.br/en/) Those are the best I've ever seen, I guess they are made only in Brazil, but I know they are sold all over the world, maybe you could check on them and see if they fit your needs.
Sorry for the very poor english!
Hi Hugo! Thanks for watching and leaving me such a nice comment. Your English is superb! Yes, I have the Marcus Bonna Case for my Puchner. Unfortunately my Heckel bassoon has an extra long long joint and it doesn't fit the standard case. I have a new case on order, though. Details coming soon. :)
Hello eryn Do you think of Scoring Machine of bonazza in miller marketing? 🤔
Hi there- I haven't used it myself to comment fully but I did create a similar handheld option for less than $20 with pieces from the hardware store. Here's a link to the scoring tools I have tried: th-cam.com/video/n-DOw83JTRo/w-d-xo.html
Hi Eryn have you considered a Bam High tech case from Miller they are great sturdy cases and I am pretty sure they fit the longer base joint
+Samuel Photon I will look into it! Thanks for the suggestion. And congrats on All State Orchestra!
Have you tried the reed cups that have a separate clip? I’ve had mine for years and it works great. Miller marketing sells good ones.
Yes- I think this is the direction I am heading! Thanks for the recommendation. :)
Do you have a reed soaker cup that you do recommend? I'm a beginning bassoon student.
If you want one that has fancy print- Bocal Majority has great options! There are also options that clip onto the music stand at stores like Miller Marketing and Forrests Double Reed.
Thanks!
Thanks!
I’m dealing with a plastic bassoon (I’m not sure what brand) and I have a concert coming up where I play a major part any suggestions on what I can do better? Any major reed brands?
I had a plastic bassoon when I started out for a bit! Sometimes it creates better intonation than some of the wood instruments that are in the same price range. If you are looking for reeds you can buy my Raffe Reeds on my website www.erynoft.com! Hope to see you over there. :)
I'm actually a clarinetist but I find your vids very entertaining 😀
Awh! Thank you and thanks for watching. :)
Eryn Oft i love the bassoon but it's pretty much the same size as me! (I am a short 12 year old) lol
Awh! If you have a short reach bassoon with a key for the left hand ring finger you could still play. :)
The problems of a bassoonist with food allergies are infinite
The things that go through a bassoonist's mind!!!
(I know what to respond to you) By nature or upbringing I am thrifty, some would say a cheapskate. But I do enjoy consuming (Bluetooth speakers I don't need, bubblebags, subwoofer for my organ that is really only for 6 or so notes...ones below 70 herz etc), but buying bassoon comfort items (stands, water cups, attachable tables for music stand etc)...I guess it's because I am lazy and don't want to lug them around. To prop up my horn during breaks or intermissions I place the bottom of the bassoon in the corner of my case and lean it against the back of my chair (dangerous, but in 25 years of doing this I have not been aware of any accidents), water receptical on the floor. One bassoon thing I'd like to buy but I don't really need is a Reed's and things pregouger. Don't know if you've seen them. Once you get the first one in you just turn the crank and keep feeding cane in and the cane comes out practically gouged. With 5 or 6 swipes on the gouging machine your done. Something like 1200 bucks. I have a '95 fox 601, a 2014 Yamaha (I bought in Japan) and a fox IV that I don't use. I am a bit of a hack bassoonist...a mercenary, and don't have a big job. I ran into your videos while looking for skype organ lessons. That's been my hobby these last few years. Playing with your feet is something else. I imagine trying to play a continuo part with my feet and the bassoon with my hands. Keep up the good work!
I play tenor sax and I love your videos !!!
That's awesome! Thank you so much for watching. You're comment made my day. :)
Eryn Oft so high quality ... I wish there were Chanel's like this for my instrument
Thank you. I will try to keep content diverse enough that there is something here for you. :)
Eryn Oft no don't change a thing I love it already
You got it! :)
i love giraffes
I've never heard anyone try to pronounce caribiner like she did
Lol I have the same v case problem
You could be the presidencial spokesperson!
You're very kind. I think I like being a musician better. :)
Yeah, imagine having to defend an obvious liar and con man like the guy we've got now. Tough job.
Love your channel, I'm begining to play bassoon, and your channel has helped a lot.
Welcome! So happy to help. As you get going on your bassoon adventure, feel free to send video suggestions. Thanks for watching and Happy Bassoon-ing!