How To Lower Your Car - How To Cut Springs - Lowering Springs , Eibach
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Excellent video. Thanks for taking the time to make it bro!
thnx for watching
Cutting should be a last resort like a car or truck that does not have a lowering spring option on the market. In most cases cutting stock springs will effect the ride quality in a negative way. This is from years of experience with lowering all my cars I owned. 7 since I was 16. My first three cars I owned ('78 Cougar, '78 Camaro, and '85 Silverado) had their coil springs cut for a mild drop and all three sucked. Lesson learned. If they have a company that make them then buy them. If safety and drivability is not an issue or they don't offer a spring for you application then cut away. Just my two cents. No hate here. This is actually quite informative if you have to do it. Thumbs up.
I have owned 30 cars in my days still have 8 of them all classics, and every one of them i have cut quarter off the front coil and put 2 inch lowering blocks in the back never had a problem and doing one now as we speak a 1961 XK falcon
Thanks for the vids Klowny, your input has helped me a lot with my 3rd Gen Z28.
awesome..i have tons of thirdgen vids coming as well..
I use to have a 87 cutlass supreme back in the 90s and back them if we wanted to lower a car some we just heated the springs with a jack set to the height we wanted the car to be and heated them until the car slowly fall to the jack and slowly let the springs cool down on its own so the car won't have to much bounce.
Lol thats awesome! Thanks for watching
klowny1969 no problem, keep doing yo thang.
I've done it that way too, but others here obviously wouldn't believe it anyways
klowny1969 lol. i know, right?
that way is even dumber as it anneals the spring ,takes any heat treatment out and alters the metallurgical construction of the spring.this is how you get bounce,not how to eliminate it.
Getting some kyb's to replace my stock shocks in my 86 Iroc this weekend!
Awesome..good luck..dont forget to subscribe
The random bits of humor in the commentary is fucking gold
lol thanks
Hey man thanks so much! Im going to your channel for all my car necessities whether you cover it or not. Great job dude!
thanks for commenting and watching
old school style, when there was no shorter springs to lower your ride!!!....Kudos...
thanks for watching and commenting
nice I would have forgot to uses the template for cutting the springs exactly equal if I didn't see this. even if its not a good thing to do
IR for the win :D most amazing air gun
yes!!!
I cut my springs but it only took about 2 minutes because I didn't take anything apart to do it, I simply removed the wheels, jacked the frame of the car up to take the weight off the suspension and cut the springs while still in place...easy.
*****
why is that so hard to believe?? I simply used a grinder with a cutting disc on my '82 Honda civic with the springs still in place (without weight on them of course). I wouldn't recommend doing it that way but it was very fast and easy. I bought proper lowered springs for my current ride though.
Jeff Carr is a dumbass don't even explain yourself.
Of course you did! That doesn't sound like bullshit at all. And what a surprise! What car did you do this on? Your sti? Evo? Supra? No you did it on a piece of shit old civic. Because gettin real springs costs more than those crappy civics. Just a typical shit box rolling around. Get a real car and do some real work on it.
Dallas Lynn I own a Lamborghini.I consider it a REAL car.What car do you own?
Lmfao I'm sure you do, and you think I'm a bullshitter?? get a life, you're wasting my time here.
Great video. Thanks for posting this!
Good video. But why did you compress the piston with the new brake pads? Lucky that you didn't crack them.
Ive been building 68 fire bird 400 4 speed bottom end was already done but the springs are wrong way way to high... I want to put 20" rims on the car so Im not sure witch spring to go with.. I want that raked look. plus I think I heard in your video that the back dropped when you lowered the front? Love the videos thanks
if you want 24" rims get the higher springs or the 4x4 kit.then your car will look re"donk"ulous,or gay as fuck.
i've done this in one of my 240sx and got more of an agressive look and the handling/stiffness increased, it had tien springs with koni gas 4 way struts. as long as its 1 spring cut and even its a great mod, seen it done on a sn 98 5.0 convert mustang and it was badass too
kool thnx for watching
+klowny1969 nice video I have a question I got my 2013 maxima on eibach springs and got a 1 1/2 drop but not really happy with the look do you know how many rings I need to cut to lower another inch?
+Tony BadCuda its different on every car
Ok thanks!!! And don't listen to does haters!!
+Tony BadCuda lol thanks man
Nice to watch a professional clown at work... again-- good explanation...thanks for posting. Good camera work Brian
Hey I really need to find out how to cut my springs I have a 84 trans am and I'd like to lower it with leaving the springs on the car still. Do I cut at the top or bottom of the spring? Thanks in advanced
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Yo, klowny. This is Joker. What's up, ese?
Sup joker..did u subscribe?
I think the foot vice technique at 10:46 was just awesome......
lol thanks for watching
I'm currently getting ready to swap my springs out for some shorter stiffer ones. How crucial is it to use a spring compressor on the front when removing stock springs?
they are cheap, but you might wanna use them as they are there to protect you, otherwise springs would be flying when u undo the bolt
Good job on video. Thanks.
I bought lowering springs on my 2004 Honda Accord I need cut 2 Inc off my front d2racing springs how much do I cut please let me know thanks you
what hacksaw should i use or what angle grinder in order to cut it ?
All this talk about cutting springs being bad is just crap.
Cutting springs can be done right, and at times has been even recommended by people like hotchkis, fred phun, caroll smith... (Look them up if you don't know who they are). If you know what you're doing it can be done right with very good results.
What you need to understand is how cutting springs affects spring rate and keep that in mind when you cut them. You have to keep spring rates in a reasonable range and a reasonable front to rear ratio. If you cut the springs too much you raise the spring rate too high and you get a redicuous bumpy ride (to take advantage of higher rates you really need higher rate shocks...). Worse, if you increase the front rate too much relative to the rear you get a car that understeers (safe but slow), and if you increase the rear rate too much relative to the front you get a car that oversteers (fast but DANGEROUS, you screw up with this car and it will be tail happy which is very hard to control and will at some point cause an accident, and if you've done it and think it fees fine, get a real road racer or autox'er to take you out in it and show you where the problem is).
Most cars have stiffer spring rates in the front (to support the engine...), and typically they have more coils made of much thicker wire. The more coils you have the less change you get in rate when you cut one off, but the change in height is dependent on coil spacing, suspension geometry and weight on the suspension (on most cars cutting the front coils changes height more than the back)
For example, On 3rd and 4th gen f-bodies that means that cutting coils off the front will increase spring rate less than cutting coils off the back, and they both want significantly higher rates in the front, and in both cases you don't really want to go over around 200# in the back unless you have VERY stiff springs in the front. On 3rd gens with performance suspensions in them from the factory (TA, GTA, WS6, Z28, Iroc...), that means that you can cut a coil or more off of the front (a coil will get your spring rate into the high 700's) and < a coil in the back. If you re-install them like that the fronts will be too low (practically sitting on the bump stops) and the backs will be too high. The quick and easy solution is that the springs are the same diameter so you can swap the thick rear spring isolators to the front and use the fronts or some hose in the back. You end up with a stance somewhat like eibach sportlines (with the back a little higher, sportlines tend to sit too low in the back) and spring rates/ride very close to eibach pro springs, but in a way better- eibach springs have progressive rate springs in the back which can be more comfortable on the road, but are a compromise in a truly handling situation and can bottom, where the stock springs are specific rate.
Mark Pikas this was really helpful mate, thanks !
good read
Joseph Gonzalez , Yes? What's up?
nice bro! nice!
cutin springs is ok if u cut maybe a coil most. anymore then tht 2 month's down tha road ur shit will ride like shit. jus spend money on good suspension. im runnin skunk2 pro c's ($1,300) on my dc5, ktuned k1's ($1k) on my fa5 an stock 01 type r ($800+ bc she's 5 lug now) everything on my legit rhd eg6 hatch i got shipped over. you pay for what you get. front suspension seeing how that's 1 of the main things on your car.
to cut the sprins do you need a spring compressor?
Wouldn't cutting a full coil off make more sense for how it would seat in at the top?
How did u get the coils to sit up in the top right? I'm lowering a 82 Z28 and mine is sitting higher than stock hieght now. I put the flat part in the top and the round part in at A arm where the 2 holes are at but if you look in the hole under the A Arm you can see that the coil is sitting on the little lump and the lump is supose to sit in the coil but its not. How did you guys get it to sit right in the top?
The top deosmt matter..as long as the bottom is indexed you are good...only one of the holes should be fully covered. .the other hole should be either partly covered or totally uncovered
thanks for this bro
thnx for watching
Nice.
But my question is can I cut the factory spring s on my Chrysler 300c?
Any springs CAN be cut. What are you really asking? Whether you should or not? Personal preference.
Cutting the spring is 1 what about the shock? Wouldn't it travel more and probably bottom out?
Nope ull be fine
I've cut them and never had any problems, just don't use a torch.....the heat will ruin them.
lol at 10:35 when you talked about messing up the spring. You are messing it up by cutting them.
Yes..thats why i was against cutting them..the spring rates get changed..i advised the customer of that, but he wanted them cut anyway..thanks for watching
what kind cutting off wheel is that?
You failed with testing height, you drive it around the block then measure. A car never settle down to the right heoght when dropped from a jack lift. As the jack lowers the suspenion moves the tire out and keeps the body "up about 1 to 2 inches. You could back it doen the drive and back up . but around the block may help the spring to find it's happy place on yjr upper and lower cradle.
I oushed fhe car back and forth a little.. and rocked it up and down..did the trick..car sat the same..dont forget to subscribe
how to do opposite? would I need v10 springs, or CARGO springs to raise my camero/firebird?
look up lift kits
+klowny1969 I have a 1986 trans am, that im trying to lift up ( suspention wise )it looks like I need longer springs, longer shocks. I already bought the lift kit for this car, from donk lifts. but I was just wondering can I get the same lift without this, and just add longer springs / shocks?
+tra lo lift kit would be only option for anything above ride height
Liked the video but you over tightened up your anti roll barr link bush till it was over compresed and it would split it or make it wair out faster you over compresed it to far
Nope its fine..thanks for watching
Defo not a job for a air gun use ring key spanner's some things dont need to be tightened up so far till they are squashed away to nothing
donald harvey they are fine
donald harvey Those endlinks are designed to be tightened till the threads bottom. You CAN'T "over compress" the bushings.
Do I need to change my struts when I put new springs in?
Nope you dont have to..unless they are bad
hey i have an 83 el camino, when ever i make a sharp turn it makes a click sound, what is it??
It could be bunch of things..first check ur balljoints..then go through suspension
It's a chevy
@@RichardTheGreat210 ,that makes sense,fuckhead
will it work on a 04 impala
+Clint Mccaig
It'll work on anything. But you're destroying your springs, making your ride harsher, and making your vehicle very unsafe.
@@pillzownsu no it dont lol. Your full of shit
Step 1 should have been *sell v6 Camaro*
nice take top strut down not fit coil spring in / uses a belt and wack it in with a hammer to set it looks much better method.
When you cut springs don't you have to get lower shocks?
+Runbear wrong..one or two coils will not cause unnecessary wear on struts..maybe work on a car and learn something
I got hrs springs on my 2002 grand am 1.4 of the rear please help me out
Brandon Spencer what help do u need?
klowny1969 do I have to cut 1.6 inch to the rear but itll match same 1.6 front
Brandon Spencer each spring behaves differently when cut
klowny1969 what tools I need?
Bout to go cut mine in half see what it dose maby I'll fit in to the Honda seen in my my moms van
Why not buy coil-overs?
Customer could not afford them..thanks for watching
thank you
Thnx for watching
get ready to bounce everywhere lol
Dat Sun as long as they are not progressive springs there is nothing wrong with cutting them,they seat like oem,its even better,spring rate goes up
+Dat sun if you get “bounce” you cut your springs improperly plain and simple
You sound like Rocky lol
Ayyooo
3:32, 6:09, 12:12 Lol
I highly disagree with putting thread-locker on all suspension pieces though... sorry. Maybe on a brand new replacement part, but not any other time.
Why? Alot of suspension peices uses either locknuts or pinchnuts as well..especially in high horsepower applications where the parts go through alot of stress and vibrate loose..
Well, half of the time when you are trying to do a fix you're just removing stock parts to get to what you need, and stock parts with tens of thousands of miles on them are almost always grimy and seized.
Adding lock-tite to them is fine, but it's going to make the next mechanics job, or my next job, even harder. I'm not saying not to do it on a new part, but nasty old grimy parts? Too much in my opinion.
Sports Cars could be a different story, especially the ones where the customer actually DRIVES the car like a sports car...
Also if there's already a locknut or pinchnut, why add lock-tite? Those do the same thing.
gamer taboo yeah..sometimes they dont supply u with pinch nuts or lock nuts and thats why getting in the habbit of putting locktite is a good idea..some manufacturers even advise in using two nuts so they dont back off.. the manufacturers know the importance of suspension nuts not backing out..
Its all good..we can agree to disagree :)
klowny1969 Ya everyone has their way. :)
+gamer taboo lol I wouldn't want you working on my stuff. Dang wheel will fall off haha. yeah you need to use thread locker on front suspension. IF you don't have locking nuts..
maybe you should use a regular pliers rather a cutter. you could save the cutter pin.
That cutoff is not OSHA approved
lol
Are we just ignoring the fact he didn’t have a gard on his cutting wheel
Jamie Hutchinson lol or the fact that a gas can was right in front of him
Are we just going to ignore the fact he didn’t spell guard correctly? What does it matter if you wear the proper PPE?
no no NO! Don't *lower* that car, son! LIFT that sucker! That's right! And put some gnarly moster truck tires on it to scare the panzy-asses as you drive over 'em and spit some backer juice out the window on 'em as you drive off and yell 'MURICA!" and blast yer big-rig dixie horns! YEEE-HAAAW!
a lot of work for a car that looks terrible. Car needs bumper cover, etc..
Cutting springs to lower a car....not good....dosnt matter who do the job...lowering kits is the way....it wont run like shit
did you have him sighn a saftey waiver?lol......
A torch would have been a lot faster
Oh no..dont let other people on here hear you say that...shhhh
Oh My God thats the worse thing u can do lol never cut coils they will never sets the same on the car .ok safety is not using rubber gloves that wont save your fingers from getting cut off.ok your using the cut off wheel rotaing to your body thats not safe i have seen those wheel come off and do bad cuts to people
For Thirdgen's there are VERY few aftermarket springs that are done RIGHT for performance. Most are low rate progressive springs meant for looks but not performance, the very reason you should be lowering the car in the first place. Only a few MFG's produce a good spring. Guldstrand, and Vogtland springs are the real deal. Vogtland springs are more accessible. Guldstrand doesn't even advertise them anymore, you have to call them on the phone to order.
check global west or eibach on their own advice for cutting springs,jackass.
+Rey Marquez the fact that you’ve been around morons who can not properly use a grinder only shows your own inexperience in building anything
First, put on gloves so you don't get your fingers dirty.
Next, sit on a tire.
Then, brace Spring professionally between feet.
Lol this guy is funny
Brad G I love this guy!!!
NEVER FUCKING CUT YOUR SPRINGS!!! Over hard bumps they can actually fall out!
+Timothy Iorlando hahahahahahaa
next time just put it all together with the stock spring and take solid pieces of material that are the height you want the car to be at each corner and place them @ the jack points of the car. Once you have them in place, take the torch and heat all of the coils evenly. Do one corner at a time and have wet rags ready to cool it slowly. DO NOT HOSE OFF with cold water or you'll snap a coil. You'll get that pancake look you're after a lot quicker and cheaper than with this bullshit aftermarket coils. If you dont like it because you find it to bouncy, then install lowering shocks. If you fuck it up, you'll crack a coil, but there's no fucking it up if you heat them up evenly, and DONT HOSE THEM with cold water, just wet rags wrapped around them when done. Of course...... not everyone is as good with their hands are others are.
Heating up the coils?? Seriously? That can really mess up the spring rate
Yes, I have done this to a monte ss front and a 2wd c20 front . Worked great no problems. I wanted to see hight lowered first and was going to buy lower springs later. Worked so well I just left them.
DO NOT CUT YOU'RE SPRINGS
*your.
I am springs?
The 2 ignorant people who replied on here are probably the types of morons who actually cut their springs.
+Dallas Lynn and you are the type of moron who shouldn’t be near a car
says he has a wet rag. notice the gas jug 2 foot from him
did u notice what he said about the gas jug?
i think he cut the wrong end
Nah
what happened to saying no he didnt or no, wtf is up with this bitch ass nah shit?
Alex Sammy NO HE DIDNT!!!
Could never be a mechanic, too much work. lol
Cutting springs, and general suspension work on thirdgen F-bodies is exceedingly easy. Very simple.
I did a C5 brake swap on my Thirdgen in about 2 hours (not including spindle modification) I didn't have the tools to properly modify the spindle and make sure the brake bosses drilled and tapped correctly and straight so I swapped on those.
well isn't that lazy
No one would like you as their mechanic either
so the most dangerous part is after butchering your ride it handles so badly and you take it out on public roads and endanger everyone when your forced to do some emergency maneuver to avoid a accident and completely loose all control and possibly kill someone
but hey you looked cool for a while
Its not that bad actually
Cuts rose scents or take and evenly compress lower half of factory spring, now heat lower half of coils with acetylene torch while moving slowly around the spring until it glows orange and lower coils will stack evenly, let coils cool for a few minutes, now take spring compressor off and reheat the same metal to help re temper the metal so the spring isn't so brittle, now it won't break. The car will be low and ride great with a more dampened and smoother ride
never cut springs
cutting springs properly has been recommended by people like hotchkis, chevrolet,eibach,carrol shelby,don yenko,fred phun, caroll smith... (Look them up if you don't know who they are).
Parapolvere e tamponi dove sono ….RIP.
Ahahhahahahaa
easiest was to make your car ride like shit just buy lowering springs
B.L. M.N. thats not nice
B.L. M.N. thats not nice
This is a stupid thing to do to your car. I have to reverse it to make it normal
ugh
Are you a RICER ?????
Why would you ask this? Do you even know what a ricer is?
the time the guy paid you to do all this bullshit he could of got dropped springs and been a lot quicker and be done newbe
michael anderson you can custom tailor the ride height this way
michael anderson why buy them when u can just shorten the damn thing what the he'll you think your buying when u buy new lowering spring it's just a shorter version of what u got.