At first I fought it was just a joke / Meme that God of War Valhala was longer than MW3. But now having playing it in the hardest difficulty, I probably spent more than 20 hours on it.
I've said that before but to add onto what you said. It was right at the same time Activision crew and cast were trying to clown on Christopher Judge since he said that in the awards. So they got clowned on again.
Honestly, I'm so glad that they finally showed how the real Tyr fights and reveals just how strong he is. Not to mention the fact that he's using weapons from different mythologies.
@@Donquavius08 vikings used shield and spear just as much as the spartans did, but the weapons were definitely greek due to hits design. the nordic shield was more of like a shield with a strange half orb.
@@RandomComicEnjoyer the designs dont look greek at all, his spear looks most like draupnir spear which is a nordic weapon itself, shield as well, the Tiwaz letter gives it away its nordic origins
Its worth appreciating how they managed to show Tyr being more than some peaceful pushover, the dude is literally capable of throat grabbing Kratos with surprising strength, and even when he gets tossed around he can still react fast enough to catch a punch and hold it! What a unit!
@@LucasCamargo827 I don't think he's anywhere near as strong as Kratos. Definitely strong, but the scaling difference between Asgardian and Olympian pantheon strength is so different.
He’s using aztec weapon but the aztec symbol was never on the wall that was in tyr’s vault. Wasn’t that celtic symbol and not aztec symbol on that wall?
Too bad macuahuitil’s are shit weapons. And I’m saying that as an indigenous Mexican. Macuahuitil’s are good against bare flesh, but the obsidian shards completely shatter against any form of resistance. Whether that’s metal breastplates of the colonial Spaniards, or even modern day Kevlar armor. Tyr should have used the atlatl. It could have acted as his ranged phase.
@@bsgfan1 Well I mean…the one he was using was a godly and indestructible version. It’s not like he was using the crap mortal version. I’m pretty sure some of the Aztec gods also used it as well.
I love the implications of these fights. Tyr having those weapons, especially those Khopesh swords, implies he's been through some things. He's not just a one-dimensional war god that just happens to be wiser than Kratos, he's *done* things that he regrets, he's been in a similar mental state than Kratos and he's grown past those hardships. Also you gotta love that he yields each time. He knows he and Kratos could fight more seriously but that's not what it's about. And Kratos realizes that too. It's a nice contrast to how the other gods just wouldn't stop even if they were given the chance to.
"It's a nice contrast to how the other gods just wouldn't stop even if they were given the chance to." Funny cause that's literally the choice Kratos offered Heimdall twice.
1:31 I love ths small smirk on Tyr's face. He wants to help Kratos be a better version of himself, not because of obligation or some other ulterior motive, but because he just wants to.
And the followup to that, the 🤨 with "Because I can." Like, to Tỳr it's OBVIOUS that the best choice is to HELP. That's the type of man he is, for him to help someone is basically just "Duh. It's what I do." It speaks volumes about his character and I love it!
I love that this drives home the dichotomy between Odin and Tyr. Both sought knowledge and power from afar. But whereas Odin sought these things only for personal gain, Tyr immersed himself in each discipline and uses it to help another.
I like that apart from a therapy session, this is also an opportunity for Tyr to show of his weapon collection to one of the few people who might appreciate it.
I LOVE how Tyr is portrayed here. I like that he has weapons from different lands, just like Kratos. And he's no slouch either. His fights are appreciably challenging.
Fun fact: When Tyr draws his weapon, the music changes depending on the country it’s from. Listen closely. 1:47 Hoplite spear/shield - Ancient Greece 6:06 Macuahuitl - Aztec Empire 11:23 Khopesh - Egyptian Empire 18:03 Katana/Odachi - Japanese Empire
Remember that missing tyr panel in god of war 4 that had greek, aztec, japanese and Egyptian symbols? , Well he uses weapons from all of them in his fights! The two handed greatsword : an aztec machuatil The dual scimitars : Ancient Egyptian Khopesh (Scimitars) The spear n shield : Goes without saying its greek The katana : also goes without saying its Japanese Each one is also comes with a small musical Change relating to the Weapon Edit : just realized it effects his mid-phase special attack too! Aztec : He summons minions to sacrifice themselves to heal him (refrencing how aztec culture was entirely about sacrifice) Egyptian : the entire arena falls in darkness and you have to step in a circle of light to see (perhaps refrencing how ancient Egypt would be constantly Shrounded in sand stroms) Japanese : he summons minions and clones of himself to attack (No clue, looks badass though)
The power when he uses japanese weapons is a reference to how certain Japanese deities (like Amaterasu and Susano'o) would casually make servants in attempts to one-up the other.
I never doubted the real Tyr's wisdom but WOW. He really made Kratos confront some difficult memories and walked him through everything. Absolutely superb writing from Santa Monica as always.
Interesting perspective by Tyr, the idea of hope, love, fear and hate as key driving forces behind people's decisions are depicted by key characters throughout the series. Kratos: Hope, the hope that he can one day redeem himself from his past, but must conquer his own inner demons before he can move forward. Freya: Love, the love she had for her son, her people and even those that have done wrong by her. Her love was even able to conquer the strongest form of hate. Thor: Hate, his inability to connect with others and hostility towards everyone. He's unable to see past his own hatred and anger until the very end. Odin: Fear, his fear of the unknown, his fear of prophecy and fear of death is what drives him mad and obsessed with knowledge.
GoW 1 established that gods of war adapt depending on how humans wage war. So if modern weapons had existed at the time, Tyr and Kratos absolutely would have used them.
I love how when Tyr gears up and tells Kratos that he’s not ready Kratos simply responds with a soft yet almost exciting “show me”. Kratos enjoys combat, so the opportunity to fight the God of War that he’s struggling to decide to replace must be exhilarating. Seeing how good Tyr used every weapon he had at his disposal I wonder how well he would of used the Blades of Chaos 🤔
Exactly. You can hear Kratos feeling excitement at seeing this real legend in action ready to be truely tested. I played on Normal difficulty but now i sort of wish i played on hardest because i feel like the story works well with Tyr beating my ass at least a couple of times
Tyr could honestly probably defeat ares. The fact that he was holding back AGAINST an older, stronger Kratos seriously has me questioning if young Kratos could even beat him.
Ares was widely dispised amongst the Greek pantheon and I believe in the OG mythology he was considered an idiot and incompetent amongst the other Greek gods. It’s also important to remember that neither Kratos or Tyr are attempting to kill each other here and both are holding back immensely. When Kratos finally let loose, he could stalemate and injure Thor, who is stated to be stronger than both Tyr or Baldur..
@@carloszestyboy2901it was actually never stated that Thor was stronger. In mythology yes but this isn't mythology mate this is God of War and by the looks of it "while Tyr is also holding back" Tyr is either stronger or smarter and he'd easily destroy Tyr especially since he's a God of war which all God's of war should at least be strategic in battle even if they're slightly weaker
@goblo023If Kratos lashed out in anger and attempted to kill Tyr, he’d fail the test of Valhalla by giving into his old anger and pride. The perceived slight doesn’t matter, the wounded pride of strength doesn’t matter, all that matters is that you fought an honorable, willingly opponent who yielded. To push any further would be to fail the test.
@@h20poseidon33thor is stronger physically probably... But as a God of War like Tyr, his power would come from Mastery of War like Weapons, Techniques, and power. Something we see from Kratos actually.
Who said Tyr was holding back? People shouldn’t spread that around if it is not a fact. One time I beat him and he said “You are stronger than me” clearly he is not holding back.
Too bad we don't get to see Atreus being able to actually meet the real Tyr. I definitely think that it would have been a turning point in the story of Ragnarok. Especially with Atreus being able to learn more about the Giants from someone who spent a great deal with them.
Given his "therapy" type role, I do wonder how, if given a few months/years to grieve, Sindri would react to Tyr, given that he's obviously gonna have PTSD due to what Odin did whilst posing as Tyr...
Tyr as a boss is amazing, it feels like Gael for me in DS3, the bossfight is like a gift to the fans, an serious challenge Tyr is not like Baldur, Odin, Thor or any Greek god, Tyr is heroic, is fighting Kratos as a friend, training and helping him to conquer himself, yet the fight is serious and Tyr do not hold himself Tyr also have different weapons from different mythologys, tons of magic and technics just like us I finished the DLC in the hardest difficult and Tyr was a really tough fight, an amazing final boss for God Of War The last God Of War game, ending with the clash of two Gods Of War
The very first game ended with a clash between two Gods of War. (Kratos VS Ares) The very last game also ended with a clash between two Gods of War. (Kratos VS Tyr)
@@myopiamlbbactually if you know for Kratos to be the god of war, he had to kill Ares…so he was still the ghost of Sparta at that time…so technically it’s Ghost of Sparta vs the God of War.
But clash between gods of war in Greek and Norse was a bit different Ares wanted to kill Kratos and take everything from him and ruin his life. Tyr wanted to duel Kratos to reach truth he needed to learn about himself. Kratos in GoW had 4 different values: -fear: death of himself to barbarian king,death of his family,destroy of his homeland,worry about losing his son Atreus; -Love: loved his family in Greek and his new family in Norse,he respected every spartan soldier and his friends in Norse; -Hate: He wanted revenge on Ares and Zeus for what they have done to his life,hated Athena for excusing his actions and doing them in a wrong way,any god who faced to kill Zeus,any god who faced ready to put his son Atreus in danger; -Hope: Kratos managed to never give up to kill all the Gods he hated, Kratos' actions will decide to leading him to never lose faith to kill Zeus;he believed he can be better than he was in his past,to lead people like a hero,not like a monster. All he learned from Ares was just to kill without cause. All he learned from Tyr is to let chose Kratos what kind of person he want to be and wisely chose his actions to not let create circumstances.
@@brushtooth6636 No it is not. It has a Nordic Rune on the shield, and both the spear and shield are identical to the one’s on Tyr’s statue and all other artistic depictions of him in-universe.
@@brushtooth6636 spear and shields were used by nearly every culture. Especially vikings because their metal wasn't great and swords were expensive. So common viking weaponry were spears.
I see now Tyr is not a god of war, but a god of BATTLE! He meditates to build focus and channel energy, he speaks to Kratos through the language of combat, he learns and adapts, and most importantly he does NOT underestimate his opponents.
How Kratos said it, one can see he wants guidance and welcome's it wanting to learn...and from whom if not another god of war that speaks his same "language" and has the power to make him kneel...that is pure respect!! Amazing work from the whole santa monica devs
Something that just occured to me is that while Tyr implies his weapons are legendary, they dont seem to actually be anything out of the ordinary like what Kratos uses. Instead Tyr himself empowers them to pull of the more impressive actions. And honestly i always like that kind of magic. The type thats incorporated into a fighting style.
juding by the way he summons them i wonder if hes utalizing the way vallhala works to materialise memories of the weaponry, probably the same method on how kratos was able to use the blade of olympus
There's an alternate universe where the original God of War trilogy we got was about Tyr seeking vengeance on Odin, and then other two sequels in wich Tyr goes to Greece with the purpose to live a peaceful life with his new son...
When Týr mentioned Kratos having “better voices” in his head he’s clearly referring to His late wife Faye and his son Atreus, especially when Atreus made him promise to hear his voice in times when he isn’t with him. 🐺🏹 🐻🪓⚔️
A nice detail for the macuahuitl to have fire-based attacks, perhaps it’s a reference to Xiucóatl, Huitzilopochtli’s divine weapon (although Xiucóatl is a living weapon in the form of a living fire snake with obsidian blades)
I just love how each weapon reflects what Kratos’ memory is upon on the subsequent fights. The Aztec with the blood magic and sacrificing enemies to heal Týr for remembering his pledge to Ares, the kopeshes and blinding effects for Helios, and the katana for Pandora. What a good boss fight.
Not to mention that Tyr katana is actually the Kusanagi No Tsurugi itself the Weapon Belong to the Shinto God of Storm Susanoo who slayed the Yamata no Orochi itself clearly never to imagine it was on the game and the Japanese background sound effect is perfectly cool
I know that people would love for Kratos to go to those places where Tyr got his weapons from, but personally I would love to see Kratos landed on a tropical island/archipelago for the next game. Would be a nice change from the snowy Norse (ignoring the two lush realms) to island setting where you can see the bright ocean, tropical trees, and stone temples. I don't want it to be Japan tho because of how super well known their mythology is, the same reason why I don't want them to go to Egypt (although, Kratos did find his way to Egypt before in between Greek and Norse). I prefer something less known such as the Pacific Islands mythology or the Malay archipelago/Nusantara mythology. Although I'm not going to lie, I'm bias here since I'm from Indonesia and I'd love to see more of Indonesia representation in games, but I don't mind with any other island/archipelago setting since it's always been my favorite and would love to see more of islander myths. But if he doesn't go to an island setting, then I'm hoping it'd be American mythology. I don't care if it's North or South America, both have really weird and cool mythology that is rarely seen in media. Even if we do see it, they're usually not that in depth.
I can't help but wonder how much Tyr has been holding back in these fights against Kratos. Given Mimir's stories, he would seem like a true force to be reckoned with, given his travels to other Pantheons, alongside what he has learned from the Giants.
@@Thedocctorr -- Interesting to learn. Haven't seen that piece of intel during my playthrough. Given the air around Tyr, it always felt like a he wouldn't be out to really kill Kratos, unless they were truly enemies.
All of these fights were so amazing and fun! Imagine though if there was an optional fifth super boss fight where Tyr swaps between all four of his weapons. Changing up his move sets and using each of their magic’s to keep you on your toes!
Well that’s interesting Tyr has a spear and shield, a two handed heavy weapon and two small blades just like kratos’s weapons but the katana that could be foreshadowing something big in the future
@@jeremiasastorga8399 plus isn’t this blade of Olympus a recreation of the original by Valhalla just like Helios’s head if i recall kratos left the blade behind back in Greece and all drained of itis power
Many of the lessons Tyr espouses are applicable even to the real world. Excusing our actions is not the way to learn from our mistakes, but understanding them. Our actions do have consequences. Both the bad and the good. We cannot see the outcome of every choice, only hope for the best. Goodness and self-improvement are not a destination, but a journey of discovery. Overcoming misfortune is a matter of perspective and wisdom. We all have hope and fear and love and hate in all of us. The question is which will we let define us? Our choices shape our world.
I love tyr having weapons thay each match one of kratos' weapons. Spear for his spear The aztec weapon for the blade of olympus (it swings way too slow to be the leviathan axe) The egyptian dual blades for the blades of chaos And the katana for the leviathan axe
hes probably similar to kratos in that they are simply too strong for the realms of death to contain them, mimir even mentiones tyr and kratos must be the same kind of cracked in the head when the solution was to flip a temple meaning they have a similar mindset and overwhelming strength
@@doratheshade Yup this explained in game that because Garm took his arm regenerating it wasnt as easy and he needed to go to hel to do it, so vallhalla counts him as "dead" because of it
This was a conversation point between Týr and Mimir at a break point between arenas: in the original sagas Týr sacrificed his hand to the Fenrisian Wolf to let the other gods tie the Wolf up, and in this story he lost a bit more, IIRC.
THIS is what Tyr really is what a God of War SHOULD be, what I would have loved to see in the main Ragnarok campaign. The best comparison I can make with Tyr is The Doctor from the original series and Doctor Who novels, a peacemaker whenever possible but a skilled and vicious warrior when need be. They would give the enemy every opportunity to stop fighting and go home in peace or resolve things peacefully, and if they did not comply they would be destroyed with brutal efficiency
swear to god i came here just to see if anyone else was having trouble but i died 2 times & had to take a break cause i was getting ready to launch my controller 😅
@@forrestgumball Game is perfectly made to be honest, love the format! "Death" is just a part of the process...whenever you are defeated, just keep upgrading strength and defence stats...it becomes easy eventually! I just crushed Tyr so easily!
Here's a detail I noticed after recently replaying God of War 2018. The weapons that Tyr uses reflect the civilizations that we see on the mural when we ride the lift down to Tyr's vault. First, he uses a spear and shield, referring to Greece. Then, he uses the giant sword used by the Mayans. Next, he uses dual khopesh, which were used by the Egyptians. Finally, he uses a Japanese katana. It shows how Tyr not only learned about the cultures themselves but also their weapons and how they fought. Just goes to show that sometimes the mind, not might, is the key to preventing war and chaos.
One thing to note; This older Kratos avoids conflict, so not only does Tyr testing his mettle in combat make sense but so too does Tyr saying "I yield." Once upon a time (The Greek Games) Kratos *REFUSED* to yield, so that message means all the more to us OG fans, because its the ultimate "show dont tell" of Kratos and his growth! My mother is an OG fan who hates the newer games, my guess is she doesnt like the parenting lessons within lmao.
Greek shield and spear Aztec club Egypt curved swords Japanese katana Side not: i feel like Tyr has a hidden power that he does not use against Kratos with his Bifrost eyes. He grabs Kratos' fist like its nothing, looks at him with his glowing eyes and says *i yield* like he just stopped himself from using a nuke lmao Something is so off
Yeah many thinks tyr is weak but forgot he must travel many religion specially if he travel India japan then must encounter Hinduism, shintoism, buddhism then these gods are multiverse level specially hindu religion where lord vishnu himself tell he maintain multiverse means tyr is strong if he travel learns from other pantheon then must able to match kratos
Tyr using magic from all those different mythologies so easily becomes even more impressive when you remember there’s an optional conversion saying each culture’s magic is very strongly tied to their lands. Tyr has connected himself to the places he visited just strongly as Kratos has connected himself to the Nine Realms.
Odin as tyr: I need therapy 😭
Tyr as tyr: I am the therapy 🗿
lmaooooo
Tyraphy
@@crimsoneclipse0618 god of psychology
😅😅😅
Can't spell therapy without Tyr.
each tyr fight felt like he's showing off his collection of weapons he's like "YO CHECK THIS SHIT OUT"
I would imagine Kratos deep down was having a blast testing himself against not just other weapons but entire philosophies of combat
@@carlzerris6566Kratos said that he enjoys combat so I wouldn't be surprised ngl
“Got this bad boi from Germany”
**Whips out Luger**
@@firstlast9846 lmao
Pretty cool shit I won't lie
"Get ready, Kratos."
*Runs over Kratos with a M1 Abrams tank*
American mytology😂
Kratos: Tyr! I do not think that-
Tyr: "Get ready, Kratos."
*somehow pulls a US destroyer out of his pocket and throws it at Kratos*
as an American, I sure do wish Tyr had some of our stuff in his collection :(
@@rapekaslPulls out Paul Bunyan’s axe
@@nathanial8587 tyr pulls out a drone strike
Love how not only this is longer than the MW3 campaign and it's free, but also that it's just therapy. Kratos is seeing a therapist.
At first I fought it was just a joke / Meme that God of War Valhala was longer than MW3.
But now having playing it in the hardest difficulty, I probably spent more than 20 hours on it.
Tyr’s a good therapist ngl
@@Kira-pv4xq Indeed. He's absurdly intelligent and wise.
I've said that before but to add onto what you said. It was right at the same time Activision crew and cast were trying to clown on Christopher Judge since he said that in the awards. So they got clowned on again.
Tyrapist
Honestly, I'm so glad that they finally showed how the real Tyr fights and reveals just how strong he is. Not to mention the fact that he's using weapons from different mythologies.
I know it's so cool seeing Egyptian, Japanese, and atec weapons, also hom pulling out the spear and shield from sparta is awesome
@@Donquavius08 his spear and shield are his nordic weapons, you can see it from the designs on them, most obviously the Tiwaz letter on the shield
@@muhammedemirdogan5413 I think they're from Greece but personalized by him
@@Donquavius08 vikings used shield and spear just as much as the spartans did, but the weapons were definitely greek due to hits design. the nordic shield was more of like a shield with a strange half orb.
@@RandomComicEnjoyer the designs dont look greek at all, his spear looks most like draupnir spear which is a nordic weapon itself, shield as well, the Tiwaz letter gives it away its nordic origins
Its worth appreciating how they managed to show Tyr being more than some peaceful pushover, the dude is literally capable of throat grabbing Kratos with surprising strength, and even when he gets tossed around he can still react fast enough to catch a punch and hold it! What a unit!
He is almost as strong as Kratos or the same power level,he was not even fighting to kill just helping Kratos
@@LucasCamargo827 I don't think he's anywhere near as strong as Kratos. Definitely strong, but the scaling difference between Asgardian and Olympian pantheon strength is so different.
@@gabrielbjornursidaetrue, even now kratos is leagues above the olympians even when he is holding back
@@LucasCamargo827he is a man with a peace of mind
He can react quickly without anything clouding his head
really shows just how insulting odin was being playing him off as so "peaceful" to the point where hes cowardly
I can say for sure that Tyr is a very calm and reasonable person, even when fighting with Kratos.
Bro even had the time to say 'nice beard' while sparring
@@assassingamer5983I laughed at that lol
Im like “bro you’re decimating me and THATS what you say?” 😂
@@assassingamer5983 time stamp please
Ares - Arrogant and smug.
Tyr - Calm and chill.
@@stoicarchitectI too would like a time stamp
Tyr: Get ready, Kratos.
NUCLEAR LAUNCH DETECTED
tactical nuke ready. turn the key.
Tyr:
Korean mythology
STRATEGIC LAUNCH DETECTED
*FAF PTSD intensified*
He prolly camped for the 25 kills😂😂😂
But in all sefiusness i would love how the gods of this world would fare against todays modern weapons
I love how tyr uses blood magic and recovers hp from the minions' sacrifice, great reference to Aztec mythology 💀🔥
He’s using aztec weapon but the aztec symbol was never on the wall that was in tyr’s vault. Wasn’t that celtic symbol and not aztec symbol on that wall?
@@everrunic8375I really doubt he only visited the mythologies shown in the wall, there must have been many others
Too bad macuahuitil’s are shit weapons. And I’m saying that as an indigenous Mexican. Macuahuitil’s are good against bare flesh, but the obsidian shards completely shatter against any form of resistance. Whether that’s metal breastplates of the colonial Spaniards, or even modern day Kevlar armor. Tyr should have used the atlatl. It could have acted as his ranged phase.
@@bsgfan1 well, it's tyr wielding it, might aswell be a magically enhanced macuahuitil
@@bsgfan1
Well I mean…the one he was using was a godly and indestructible version.
It’s not like he was using the crap mortal version.
I’m pretty sure some of the Aztec gods also used it as well.
I love the implications of these fights. Tyr having those weapons, especially those Khopesh swords, implies he's been through some things. He's not just a one-dimensional war god that just happens to be wiser than Kratos, he's *done* things that he regrets, he's been in a similar mental state than Kratos and he's grown past those hardships.
Also you gotta love that he yields each time. He knows he and Kratos could fight more seriously but that's not what it's about.
And Kratos realizes that too.
It's a nice contrast to how the other gods just wouldn't stop even if they were given the chance to.
Both of them are learned
Well not each other but hey, it seems like kratos became tyr's disciple
Not officially but hey...not bad?
@@mightystellwan1974more like advisor that mentor tbh
Well, Thor stopped to fight when given the chance
"It's a nice contrast to how the other gods just wouldn't stop even if they were given the chance to."
Funny cause that's literally the choice Kratos offered Heimdall twice.
@@Cafearmuire i think thats exactly what OP meant
Tyr” Alright Kratos get ready “
Pulls out a light saber
*Duel of the Fates intensifies*
A red light saber
Tyr with an Ataru lightsaber stance
@@myopiamlbbthat would fit alot also as he kinda looks like Obi Wan Kenobi’s master from Phantom menace 💀 just bigger
' I'll show you the force that will test both of your brawn and mind. Ready to witness it?'
Tyr evolved beyond being the god of war, he is now the god of therapy
God of War(with self) = Therapy lol
Odin as Tyr: I need therapy
Týr as Týr: I AM the therapy
@@matiasrodriguez7408copied
@@Stagier_realshared*
1:56 Spear and shield
6:04 a Macuahuitl
11:26 a pair of Khopeshes
18:06 a Katana
Did Tyr travel to other places?
yes it was implied in both god of war 4 and 5 that he acted as an emissary to other pantheons
Well, actually, the last weapon he wield was actually Otachi, given it lenghts and size.
But yeah, you can call it Katana for easier context.
@@ryannovel8892yeah he clapped Amaterasu alright. in their prime, Tyr is probably a monster as well
@@FBI_NotOtachi was much more longer and heavier than average katana, but yeah you still can call it the same thing for easier context
If we rank them by size and weight, ōdachi/nōdachi>tachi>uchigadana(katana)>wakizashi>tantō
There should've been another boss fight where tyr pull out an M60 rifle
"God created men but Samuel Colt made them equal."
American mythology lol
@@ydlogXD im rolling
@@ydlogChronics of red neck apostasy
“Defend yourself!”
*brr brr brr brr brr brr*
1:31 I love ths small smirk on Tyr's face. He wants to help Kratos be a better version of himself, not because of obligation or some other ulterior motive, but because he just wants to.
And the followup to that, the 🤨 with "Because I can." Like, to Tỳr it's OBVIOUS that the best choice is to HELP. That's the type of man he is, for him to help someone is basically just "Duh. It's what I do."
It speaks volumes about his character and I love it!
My new headcannon is that Tyr and Kratos meet for weekly sparing sessions after the main buisiness in Valhalla
Týr gets back in shape and Kratos gets much needed therapy to clear his mind
@@Jampolo_OG And both get to stay active and keep from getting rusty for when the next threat appears
I like this.
Then Tyr realizes kratos son is a threat after all and tries to kill him
Tyr done justice. probably the most well known and travel experienced character we have seen so far. he better join us in the next games.
Well I hope not😂
I mean it's amazing if he is but
I just want kratos to became his disciple, at least v: hehe
@@mightystellwan1974You got trauma from him bro?
@@LucasCamargo827 didn't count I lose mate
Yeah skill issue, sorry
@@mightystellwan1974oh understandable. I didn't wanna see sigrun ever again after what she put me through, now yet here we are. Lol
I wanna see if player can control him at DLC after Valhalla. He have many weapons to play with.
The animation of tyr just tanking that punch to the face and then grabbing kratos fist,even emitting a shockwave from it,is really cool
I love that this drives home the dichotomy between Odin and Tyr. Both sought knowledge and power from afar.
But whereas Odin sought these things only for personal gain, Tyr immersed himself in each discipline and uses it to help another.
I like that apart from a therapy session, this is also an opportunity for Tyr to show of his weapon collection to one of the few people who might appreciate it.
Kratos DEFINITELY appreciates ut
I LOVE how Tyr is portrayed here. I like that he has weapons from different lands, just like Kratos. And he's no slouch either. His fights are appreciably challenging.
Fun fact: When Tyr draws his weapon, the music changes depending on the country it’s from. Listen closely.
1:47 Hoplite spear/shield - Ancient Greece
6:06 Macuahuitl - Aztec Empire
11:23 Khopesh - Egyptian Empire
18:03 Katana/Odachi - Japanese Empire
It’s always small details like this that makes me appreciate this kind of stuff even more.
Hoping there's a GoW game that tells Týr's stories where we get to play as Týr during his prime time.
@@V0RTA
God of War: Tales of Tyr
@@sk_hermit1809tbh I'd pay full price for that
Actually the spear and shield are his own. They're nordic and the shield even has a nordic rune. they're just like the ones that were on his statue.
Remember that missing tyr panel in god of war 4 that had greek, aztec, japanese and Egyptian symbols? , Well he uses weapons from all of them in his fights!
The two handed greatsword : an aztec machuatil
The dual scimitars : Ancient Egyptian Khopesh (Scimitars)
The spear n shield : Goes without saying its greek
The katana : also goes without saying its Japanese
Each one is also comes with a small musical Change relating to the Weapon
Edit : just realized it effects his mid-phase special attack too!
Aztec : He summons minions to sacrifice themselves to heal him (refrencing how aztec culture was entirely about sacrifice)
Egyptian : the entire arena falls in darkness and you have to step in a circle of light to see (perhaps refrencing how ancient Egypt would be constantly Shrounded in sand stroms)
Japanese : he summons minions and clones of himself to attack (No clue, looks badass though)
The darkness might as well reference the plagues Moses threw upon Egypt
Both of them Cover the entire land in darkness so Eh could be either
(There's a bit of a Mythology Clash between them)
The power when he uses japanese weapons is a reference to how certain Japanese deities (like Amaterasu and Susano'o) would casually make servants in attempts to one-up the other.
I guess you could explain the Clones as part of the Many Celestial Gods in Kami mythology
Or. . Naruto reference 😂
Týr’s weapons and their respective mythologies
1:38 - Spear & Shield (Greek)
6:00 - Macuahuitl (Aztec)
11:20 Khopesh (Egyptian)
17:58 Katana (Japanese)
The spear and shield looked more alike with celtic weaponry, even has Celtics symbols
@@69camilooi think it's just his own weapons. Not greek nor celtic, just norse
@@darkspxder The Norse culture shield is not look like that. That shield is much closer to greek.
@@Ilyas-ty6cy there's a tiwaz rune on it tho
I love how eac weapon has a unique and distinctive que that plays when he draws them
Tyr is just badass. Just expected from God of war.
ngl he was a beast to deal with
And also a capable therapist
*Tyr-apist@@hartantoanggoro
This is the real Tyr, The old God of War on Norse Land. He even used different weapons from another pantheon. Really love this DLC
I never doubted the real Tyr's wisdom but WOW. He really made Kratos confront some difficult memories and walked him through everything. Absolutely superb writing from Santa Monica as always.
Interesting perspective by Tyr, the idea of hope, love, fear and hate as key driving forces behind people's decisions are depicted by key characters throughout the series.
Kratos: Hope, the hope that he can one day redeem himself from his past, but must conquer his own inner demons before he can move forward.
Freya: Love, the love she had for her son, her people and even those that have done wrong by her. Her love was even able to conquer the strongest form of hate.
Thor: Hate, his inability to connect with others and hostility towards everyone. He's unable to see past his own hatred and anger until the very end.
Odin: Fear, his fear of the unknown, his fear of prophecy and fear of death is what drives him mad and obsessed with knowledge.
Next DLC Tyr pulls out chainsaw and akimbo M9
Id honestly take it a step further and give him a Lazer rifle lol
Give him an glock as his secondary 🤣
@@spiffygonzales5160no no no, tyr dropped tsar bomba😁
GoW 1 established that gods of war adapt depending on how humans wage war. So if modern weapons had existed at the time, Tyr and Kratos absolutely would have used them.
@@rapekasl "here comes the sun kratos"
I clowned on tyr so much in ragnorok but after fighting him so many times I see why his strength was feared and respected
I love how when Tyr gears up and tells Kratos that he’s not ready Kratos simply responds with a soft yet almost exciting “show me”. Kratos enjoys combat, so the opportunity to fight the God of War that he’s struggling to decide to replace must be exhilarating.
Seeing how good Tyr used every weapon he had at his disposal I wonder how well he would of used the Blades of Chaos 🤔
Exactly. You can hear Kratos feeling excitement at seeing this real legend in action ready to be truely tested.
I played on Normal difficulty but now i sort of wish i played on hardest because i feel like the story works well with Tyr beating my ass at least a couple of times
Unfortunately Tyr would only be able to use the blades unless he was the one to sell his soul to Aries for the blades
@@hankgrubbs9811 i mean tyr could use blood sacrifice when its can only be done in aztec mythology
Tyr could honestly probably defeat ares. The fact that he was holding back AGAINST an older, stronger Kratos seriously has me questioning if young Kratos could even beat him.
Ares was widely dispised amongst the Greek pantheon and I believe in the OG mythology he was considered an idiot and incompetent amongst the other Greek gods. It’s also important to remember that neither Kratos or Tyr are attempting to kill each other here and both are holding back immensely. When Kratos finally let loose, he could stalemate and injure Thor, who is stated to be stronger than both Tyr or Baldur..
@@carloszestyboy2901it was actually never stated that Thor was stronger. In mythology yes but this isn't mythology mate this is God of War and by the looks of it "while Tyr is also holding back" Tyr is either stronger or smarter and he'd easily destroy Tyr especially since he's a God of war which all God's of war should at least be strategic in battle even if they're slightly weaker
@goblo023If Kratos lashed out in anger and attempted to kill Tyr, he’d fail the test of Valhalla by giving into his old anger and pride. The perceived slight doesn’t matter, the wounded pride of strength doesn’t matter, all that matters is that you fought an honorable, willingly opponent who yielded. To push any further would be to fail the test.
@@h20poseidon33thor is stronger physically probably...
But as a God of War like Tyr, his power would come from Mastery of War like Weapons, Techniques, and power. Something we see from Kratos actually.
Who said Tyr was holding back? People shouldn’t spread that around if it is not a fact. One time I beat him and he said “You are stronger than me” clearly he is not holding back.
Too bad we don't get to see Atreus being able to actually meet the real Tyr. I definitely think that it would have been a turning point in the story of Ragnarok. Especially with Atreus being able to learn more about the Giants from someone who spent a great deal with them.
Given his "therapy" type role, I do wonder how, if given a few months/years to grieve, Sindri would react to Tyr, given that he's obviously gonna have PTSD due to what Odin did whilst posing as Tyr...
"Prepare yourself Kratos"
*Drives in on forklift*
Probably drops steamrollers...
"Because i am forklift certified"
Tyr believes in peaceful solutions, but he is by no means pacifist.
Do not seek war, but always be ready for it.
Better to be warrior in a garden, than a gardner in a war as they say
Y'all are nerds😂
@@maliquesmith2311 and damn proud of it
Something I heard from somewhere:
"Harmless and peaceful are two different things."
I love that you can tell Tyr is having the fucking time of his life with these fights
I mean he was trapped in a cell for god knows how long
The best set of fights in this game. He kicked my ass several times and I was always eager to get back and try again
I found beating the chosen quickly and having enough health to beat Tyr the hardest part.
15:01 that blindness effect is so cool with the cutscene, i dont know why
Tyr as a boss is amazing, it feels like Gael for me in DS3, the bossfight is like a gift to the fans, an serious challenge
Tyr is not like Baldur, Odin, Thor or any Greek god, Tyr is heroic, is fighting Kratos as a friend, training and helping him to conquer himself, yet the fight is serious and Tyr do not hold himself
Tyr also have different weapons from different mythologys, tons of magic and technics just like us
I finished the DLC in the hardest difficult and Tyr was a really tough fight, an amazing final boss for God Of War
The last God Of War game, ending with the clash of two Gods Of War
The very first game ended with a clash between two Gods of War. (Kratos VS Ares)
The very last game also ended with a clash between two Gods of War. (Kratos VS Tyr)
@@myopiamlbb YES exactly
@@myopiamlbbactually if you know for Kratos to be the god of war, he had to kill Ares…so he was still the ghost of Sparta at that time…so technically it’s Ghost of Sparta vs the God of War.
But clash between gods of war in Greek and Norse was a bit different
Ares wanted to kill Kratos and take everything from him and ruin his life.
Tyr wanted to duel Kratos to reach truth he needed to learn about himself.
Kratos in GoW had 4 different values:
-fear: death of himself to barbarian king,death of his family,destroy of his homeland,worry about losing his son Atreus;
-Love: loved his family in Greek and his new family in Norse,he respected every spartan soldier and his friends in Norse;
-Hate: He wanted revenge on Ares and Zeus for what they have done to his life,hated Athena for excusing his actions and doing them in a wrong way,any god who faced to kill Zeus,any god who faced ready to put his son Atreus in danger;
-Hope: Kratos managed to never give up to kill all the Gods he hated, Kratos' actions will decide to leading him to never lose faith to kill Zeus;he believed he can be better than he was in his past,to lead people like a hero,not like a monster.
All he learned from Ares was just to kill without cause.
All he learned from Tyr is to let chose Kratos what kind of person he want to be and wisely chose his actions to not let create circumstances.
DLC made me love Tyr, he’s probably one of the few gods that’s as truly close to himself as he is in the real mythology
Tyr: Get ready Kratos!
Also Tyr: *pulls out two rocket launchers*
"defend yourself!" (two F22s fly by)
"darkness occur!" 'Merica!
spear and shield : norse (primary weapon)
macuahuitl : mesoamerican (especially aztecs and mayans)
dual khopesh : egyptian
katana : japan
Spear and shield is greek no?
@@brushtooth6636 No it is not.
It has a Nordic Rune on the shield, and both the spear and shield are identical to the one’s on Tyr’s statue and all other artistic depictions of him in-universe.
@@RobGordonJC true
You can see the rune on his shield. It is Tiwaz Rune, the Rune of Norse God of War Tyr@@brushtooth6636
@@brushtooth6636 spear and shields were used by nearly every culture. Especially vikings because their metal wasn't great and swords were expensive. So common viking weaponry were spears.
I see now Tyr is not a god of war, but a god of BATTLE! He meditates to build focus and channel energy, he speaks to Kratos through the language of combat, he learns and adapts, and most importantly he does NOT underestimate his opponents.
Tyr using magic and weapons from the other mythologies on the panel in his vault is amazing
*_Greek, Aztec, Egyptian, Japanese_*
Seeing the strength and intelligence of Tyr makes me realize how much Odin's imitation was mockery.
No wonder why Odin locked him up, my guy is a walking armory.
1:57 the pure awesomeness
How Kratos said it, one can see he wants guidance and welcome's it wanting to learn...and from whom if not another god of war that speaks his same "language" and has the power to make him kneel...that is pure respect!! Amazing work from the whole santa monica devs
Tyr’s foreign weapon special abilities:
Aztec Macuahuitl - Flaming (Overhead bash)
Egyptian Dual Khopeshes - Light stealing blades (Dashing slice)
Japanese Katana - Freezing swing (imbues blade with frost)
And of course his signature trusty norse spear (with a Greek shield)
I beat Tyr so convincingly one time he said to Kratos “You’re stronger than me” and another time he said “You deserve the win”
The fight may have been just for Kratos, but the Lesson was for all of us
No, the fight was definitely mine too, it was not easy to beat a god who changed his style 3 times and then combined all 4 at the end
Something that just occured to me is that while Tyr implies his weapons are legendary, they dont seem to actually be anything out of the ordinary like what Kratos uses. Instead Tyr himself empowers them to pull of the more impressive actions. And honestly i always like that kind of magic. The type thats incorporated into a fighting style.
juding by the way he summons them i wonder if hes utalizing the way vallhala works to materialise memories of the weaponry, probably the same method on how kratos was able to use the blade of olympus
Tyr: Get ready Kratos
*Tyr pulls out infinity gauntlet
when tyr pulled out the katana i heard "i have the power of god and anime on my side"
Tyr: "The power of me and anime on my side!"
Tyr: "Now I'm motivated"
Now imagine you heard eagle screaming while Tyr pulling out M60
There's an alternate universe where the original God of War trilogy we got was about Tyr seeking vengeance on Odin, and then other two sequels in wich Tyr goes to Greece with the purpose to live a peaceful life with his new son...
More like going to the next pantheon and training another successor to kill said pantheon.
When Týr mentioned Kratos having “better voices” in his head he’s clearly referring to His late wife Faye and his son Atreus, especially when Atreus made him promise to hear his voice in times when he isn’t with him.
🐺🏹 🐻🪓⚔️
A nice detail for the macuahuitl to have fire-based attacks, perhaps it’s a reference to Xiucóatl, Huitzilopochtli’s divine weapon (although Xiucóatl is a living weapon in the form of a living fire snake with obsidian blades)
Tyr definitely earned the right to be called the God of War. He has HANDS….
Tyr: i have one last weapon to show you...
*The only thing i know for real starts playing*
Tyr catching Kratos’ fist at 4:33 was COLD
I just love how each weapon reflects what Kratos’ memory is upon on the subsequent fights. The Aztec with the blood magic and sacrificing enemies to heal Týr for remembering his pledge to Ares, the kopeshes and blinding effects for Helios, and the katana for Pandora. What a good boss fight.
Never in my life have I seen a character grow so much.
Thor was a reflection of Kratos' past and present self. Týr is a look into Kratos' future.
Týr after 20 fights : Get ready kratos
*Pulls out Glock 43x from the ancient american pantheon*
Not to mention that Tyr katana is actually the Kusanagi No Tsurugi itself the Weapon Belong to the Shinto God of Storm Susanoo who slayed the Yamata no Orochi itself clearly never to imagine it was on the game and the Japanese background sound effect is perfectly cool
That "Show me" gave me chills
I felt my pulse go up when he pulled out the Aztec obsidian club! These fights are so cool!
When he pulls that Mahuitl and the Mayan pan flute plays. GOOSEBUMPS
I know that people would love for Kratos to go to those places where Tyr got his weapons from, but personally I would love to see Kratos landed on a tropical island/archipelago for the next game.
Would be a nice change from the snowy Norse (ignoring the two lush realms) to island setting where you can see the bright ocean, tropical trees, and stone temples. I don't want it to be Japan tho because of how super well known their mythology is, the same reason why I don't want them to go to Egypt (although, Kratos did find his way to Egypt before in between Greek and Norse).
I prefer something less known such as the Pacific Islands mythology or the Malay archipelago/Nusantara mythology.
Although I'm not going to lie, I'm bias here since I'm from Indonesia and I'd love to see more of Indonesia representation in games, but I don't mind with any other island/archipelago setting since it's always been my favorite and would love to see more of islander myths.
But if he doesn't go to an island setting, then I'm hoping it'd be American mythology. I don't care if it's North or South America, both have really weird and cool mythology that is rarely seen in media. Even if we do see it, they're usually not that in depth.
I can't help but wonder how much Tyr has been holding back in these fights against Kratos. Given Mimir's stories, he would seem like a true force to be reckoned with, given his travels to other Pantheons, alongside what he has learned from the Giants.
One of the valkyries says that Tyr would never disrespect Kratos by holding back
@@Thedocctorr -- Interesting to learn. Haven't seen that piece of intel during my playthrough. Given the air around Tyr, it always felt like a he wouldn't be out to really kill Kratos, unless they were truly enemies.
@@2005zhane Can confirm that one of the Valkyries says that. I just heard it myself.
If he's not really holding back then he's really mastered combat considering how calm he is when fighting
Update -- I just got confirmation in hearing Tyr himself say that he doesn't hold back from the fights. (Tyr: "Don't hold back. I won't")
All of these fights were so amazing and fun!
Imagine though if there was an optional fifth super boss fight where Tyr swaps between all four of his weapons. Changing up his move sets and using each of their magic’s to keep you on your toes!
11:45 Accidentally awesome.
Well that’s interesting Tyr has a spear and shield, a two handed heavy weapon and two small blades just like kratos’s weapons but the katana that could be foreshadowing something big in the future
Probably referencing the Blade of Olympus, which Kratos can use in this DLC.
@@jeremiasastorga8399 no the blade of Olympus is super big, heavy, slow and two handed while tyr’s katana is the polar opposite
@@jeremiasastorga8399 plus isn’t this blade of Olympus a recreation of the original by Valhalla just like Helios’s head if i recall kratos left the blade behind back in Greece and all drained of itis power
@@jeremyetremblay6663p
Tyr: Get ready Kratos!
WHIPS OUT THE DEATH STAR.
Now THAT'S the norse god of war. Tyr using weapons from other cultures with such prowless... Astonishing. The deity of "war" suits him well.
Only a god of war could help and understand another god of war's baggage
Many of the lessons Tyr espouses are applicable even to the real world.
Excusing our actions is not the way to learn from our mistakes, but understanding them.
Our actions do have consequences. Both the bad and the good. We cannot see the outcome of every choice, only hope for the best.
Goodness and self-improvement are not a destination, but a journey of discovery.
Overcoming misfortune is a matter of perspective and wisdom.
We all have hope and fear and love and hate in all of us. The question is which will we let define us?
Our choices shape our world.
This is kind of what i wanted from the two: resolving introspective issues by fighting mindlessly until one yields
"While you where killing gods and having sex minigames kratos, i was studying the blade"
Weeb Tyr
I love tyr having weapons thay each match one of kratos' weapons.
Spear for his spear
The aztec weapon for the blade of olympus (it swings way too slow to be the leviathan axe)
The egyptian dual blades for the blades of chaos
And the katana for the leviathan axe
Tyr "get ready Kratos"
PULLS UP A NOKIA 3310
Nobody noticed the fact that Tyr can enter Valhalla without consequence.
Tyr has died before.
hes probably similar to kratos in that they are simply too strong for the realms of death to contain them, mimir even mentiones tyr and kratos must be the same kind of cracked in the head when the solution was to flip a temple meaning they have a similar mindset and overwhelming strength
Didn't he explain that he had to go to Hel to get his arm back or something? I think he also said that by that technicality, he's allowed in Valhalla.
@@doratheshade Yup this explained in game that because Garm took his arm regenerating it wasnt as easy and he needed to go to hel to do it, so vallhalla counts him as "dead" because of it
This was a conversation point between Týr and Mimir at a break point between arenas: in the original sagas Týr sacrificed his hand to the Fenrisian Wolf to let the other gods tie the Wolf up, and in this story he lost a bit more, IIRC.
THIS is what Tyr really is what a God of War SHOULD be, what I would have loved to see in the main Ragnarok campaign. The best comparison I can make with Tyr is The Doctor from the original series and Doctor Who novels, a peacemaker whenever possible but a skilled and vicious warrior when need be. They would give the enemy every opportunity to stop fighting and go home in peace or resolve things peacefully, and if they did not comply they would be destroyed with brutal efficiency
I love the musical cues when Tyr pulls out a weapon you havn't seen before, representing the culture and mythology the weapon in question came from.
Tyr: **pulls out gurren lagann** get ready, kratos
Watch as Kratos ties Mimirs Head on top of his.
Kratos: Just who the hell do you think I am
Final Tyr fight is absolute pain in the ass...I am failing misserably
swear to god i came here just to see if anyone else was having trouble but i died 2 times & had to take a break cause i was getting ready to launch my controller 😅
Same dudes, im stuck. Gonna try again tomorrow when my blood pressure lowers
@@forrestgumball Game is perfectly made to be honest, love the format! "Death" is just a part of the process...whenever you are defeated, just keep upgrading strength and defence stats...it becomes easy eventually! I just crushed Tyr so easily!
You can do it mate idk if you already did it but you can do it 💯 just upgrade yourself and practice more
yeah it becomes easy with time @@h20poseidon33
Here's a detail I noticed after recently replaying God of War 2018. The weapons that Tyr uses reflect the civilizations that we see on the mural when we ride the lift down to Tyr's vault. First, he uses a spear and shield, referring to Greece. Then, he uses the giant sword used by the Mayans. Next, he uses dual khopesh, which were used by the Egyptians. Finally, he uses a Japanese katana. It shows how Tyr not only learned about the cultures themselves but also their weapons and how they fought. Just goes to show that sometimes the mind, not might, is the key to preventing war and chaos.
One thing to note;
This older Kratos avoids conflict, so not only does Tyr testing his mettle in combat make sense but so too does Tyr saying "I yield."
Once upon a time (The Greek Games) Kratos *REFUSED* to yield, so that message means all the more to us OG fans, because its the ultimate "show dont tell" of Kratos and his growth!
My mother is an OG fan who hates the newer games, my guess is she doesnt like the parenting lessons within lmao.
Greek shield and spear
Aztec club
Egypt curved swords
Japanese katana
Side not: i feel like Tyr has a hidden power that he does not use against Kratos with his Bifrost eyes.
He grabs Kratos' fist like its nothing, looks at him with his glowing eyes and says *i yield* like he just stopped himself from using a nuke lmao
Something is so off
Yeah many thinks tyr is weak but forgot he must travel many religion specially if he travel India japan then must encounter Hinduism, shintoism, buddhism then these gods are multiverse level specially hindu religion where lord vishnu himself tell he maintain multiverse means tyr is strong if he travel learns from other pantheon then must able to match kratos
Tyr pulls out the crucible from Doom or pulls out the buster sword. lol.
Battle 10
"Be ready kratos i got a ww2 nuke"
18:00 "Show me a good time, Kratos!"
How gods of war seek therapy:
Tyr: Kratos, let's kick ass and see what happens.
Kratos: alright!
Tyr: "Because I can."
I like that Tyr doesn't have a bunch of tattoos. Despite media portrayals, "vikings" didn't have tattoos.
6:00
Tyr pulls out a machete*
Kratros: and that one?
Tyr: I present to you the old rusty but unbreakable one 🗿🩸
17:59 THAT WAS SO COOL!
Imagine tyr pull out a machine gun
11:46 *OMG KRATOS!* *PERFECT TIMING!*
in Gow 2018 In Tyrs chamber you see the 4 pictures of the pantheons of the weapons he’s using
every sword drawn got their own music theme. fucking madness
Tyr is HIM. Odin was coping when he was slandering him
Tyr using magic from all those different mythologies so easily becomes even more impressive when you remember there’s an optional conversion saying each culture’s magic is very strongly tied to their lands.
Tyr has connected himself to the places he visited just strongly as Kratos has connected himself to the Nine Realms.
Wonder what a game staring tyr would look like now