00:00 Intro 1:20 Mimir and Sigrun Romance - The Beginning 8:01 Mimir and Oberon the Fairy King 14:05 Sigrun Wants to Leave Valhalla 18:54 Mimir Lets Her Go 25:51 SECRET ENDING - Sigrun Leaves
@@newhybrid101 You mean the way he talks about his old life and the growth he's been through? Or when he consoles other people? That's not feminine, I'd argue that makes him more of a man
@@thegreatmonacage3782right? I’d argue everyone is their best self when they can be introspective & mindful. Kratos being able to confront his life thus far head-on makes him even more of a badass
Tyr's therapy session really changes Kratos for better, from a grumpy old man into a caring brother that no one would ask but loved to stay and talk with.
Finally someone said it, I really like Tyr's personality his like a friend who is just a tall chill guy with an understanding to help the people in need
Its weird to see kratos be so open and have friends. But ever since 2018 that feeling went away. Kratos's character development is one of the best in fiction
I forgive Sigrun for being such a pain in the ass in 2018. Who knew that an optional boss would have such a compelling story and character development😢 Good bye Sigrun, and thanks for saving Kratos and Mimir from Valhalla
Mimir wasn't joking though he knew what he was saying he truely did think that he couldnt be all she wanted and needed him to be and i dont blame him to be honest they both need to find themselves fully and would be nice for Mimir to have a full body again then maybe they both can finally do what they truely want and the fact Kratos sees this and understands why and yet still calls him out on it shows how much he has improved from the unrelenting rage induced powerhouse that kills for the sake of it and for vengence
Funny, I always see Valhalla as Norse Heaven for warriors usually in TV shows & Cartoons. Guess that was just the simple way of showing that to people who don’t know much about Norse Mythology compared to Greek.
i guess the years of having the right aproach helped him get on his good side. its odd how can someone have so much respect for a talking bodyless head.
I just respect him for collecting ALL these lines and stories it just helps us understand more of the characters background. I know it's a simple sentence but I always ignored their tales while I'm grinding 😅
One thing I haven’t heard many people mention is that Kratos is ACTIVELY asking for stories and lore, I saw this as almost a call back to when Atreus asked for the story behind Draupnir and Kratos didn’t have it because “Atreus was not there to ask” I feel like Kratos actively seeking out these stories is him making sure Atreus doesn’t miss out on the wonderful stories he knows his son would like to know about. Idk maybe I’m looking too deep into this lol just a thought
I mean why not both. Kratos is now showing interests again in the world. Him wanting to show Atreus the horse or him wanting to revisit thw wolves or how he ships Angrboda to his son is him becoming a person and a father. Now he actively seeks stories because he is interested in them. He let his son make his own path but he'll definitely miss him and he will have a lot of stories to tell once he comeback home.
in GOW ps4, the lore entries in the game took the form of journal entries written from atreus's POV, a practice instilled in him by faye while growing up, which kratos never fully understood. in valhalla, they are written in kratos's perspective, some addressed to atreus. im almost certain you are already on the mark.
You're not. The way the lore entries (in Valhalla) are written supports this idea. He constantly references missing Atreus and they're written as if they're directed at him.
Conclusion to everyone's main issues Kratos: His rage and actions for vengeance Mimir: Working for dumbasses so much hes self consious Freya: Maniuplated beyond human comprehension Atreus:Full approval from Kratos(for the most part) Helios: A peice of shit for eternity Tyr: Being a therapist for these complicated ass people
Well for all the greatness Tyr showed, he did abdicate his position and responsibilities but he came out better. Maybe running away is really an option but going back and facing the issues again should be the next step. And this is what he taught Kratos and the others.
Interesting, if this is canonically shakespearean literature then this implies that god of war plays sometime in the 15th century but it wouldn’t necessarily make real sense. Unless Mimirs homeland like greece here is a different reality so there might be some variations in time or how these tales exist within these realities.
@@LordBackuro these are just myths. The full extent of the myths in norse mythology happen in a different time than the greek. But we are INSIDE those mythologies, not in the world they were written. Shakespere's writings might might just co-exist with every other fable or myth, no matter when they were written.
@@CarnerioTostadoI'm not sure if this applies, but a solid way for the myths and legends to coexist is to apply the idea that was employed in Earth-27. Imagine a dimension where stories actually exist, and their exploits get transferred into a form of psychic energy that would inspire writers in the main dimension? Now, that's just for the fairy tale portion. The myths and legends, however, take place in both the physical realm, and another realm where souls and spirits are both made, gathered, and pooled upon death; and almost each pocket realm is the home of pantheons that tether themselves to Earth for sustenance.
“A great love is a lot like a good memory. When it's there, and you know it's there, but it’s just out of your reach, it can be all that you think about. And you can focus on it, and try to force it. But the more that you do, the more you seem to push it away. But if you're patient, and hold still...Maybe. Just maybe, it'll come to you.” -Church from Red Vs Blue
“Show me someone for whom friendship means lack of love, and I’ll show you someone who wonders why their lovers never end up being worth their time.” Mimir just described the absurdity of the concept of the “friendzone”, certainly the smartest man alive.
The main point of the friend zone idea isn't that it is a lack of love but rather it isn't the love that someone strived for and not everyone can accept. They aren't owed the love but they don't have to just be happy about it either since it can be hard to see someone you hold a candle for to go and be with other people and learn that you were never an option in their mind nor would you ever be.
The only honost way too interpret that line in the context of the friendzone would be realizing that if you are in a friendship only for the hopes of getting laid then that isn't a true friendship or love and you should probably look inward a bit more.
@@omnipresentl1316Respectfully I disagree, at least with regards to what you’re saying as pertains to Mimir’s quote. I understand it as Mimir saying that if that love would look to you and truly consider you a friend, then it takes a fool not to recognise how powerful that trust is. It may not have been the love that you had wanted, but only the shortsighted would not recognise how lucky they are to be called friend by one they respect and cherish. And they wonder why their own lovers never end up being worth their own time (IE, the person in the friend zone thinks their own partners unworthy), because they don’t understand that real, genuine friendship is one of the strongest loves there is, and without understanding that loving a person as they are, independent of your wants (ie, a friend), you cannot hope to truly love and be loved romantically. Incredible to me that a video game can inspire such a great philosophical debate amongst fans!
This is why I love Mimir so much in this game. He’s so understanding and selfless. The fact that he put Sigrun’s choices and happiness first over his own pride makes him a true, positive role model. I’m glad this game is making all the male characters positive role models, except for Atreus, and sympathetic. It shows that the level of maturity and respect for the male demographic and representation is so strong and pure.
Atreus is quite literally every angsty male teenager going through life trying to set himself apart from his parents only to fuck everything up in the process and ends up needing them to help put it right. He's an excellent representation of our own teenage years of being young and foolish, thinking we know what we're doing.
And Sigrun reciprocate those feelings "let me return to you, whole" I love those 2 so much, and I'll patiently wait for see them reunited in the future.
Tyr really just starting a big therapy session for all the characters lmao When will Sindri get his big therapy session with Tyr, he's the one who really needs it the most
God it makes me so happy seeing the real tyr in action and how much Odin tried slandering his character and how good of a person he truly is and isn’t a pushover as well since he is a master of arms and could easily have been able to sway ragnarok way more on their favor and maybe not lose freyr
@@BitrateBilly you know, he might just be Jesus as well, Mimir is also Puck from Celtic mythology after all. But I’d imagine he’s not quite Jesus yet in canon
I replayed the story after completing the Valhalla DLC (so I could go through again as Young Kratos), and man it just highlights how bullshit Odin’s version of Tyr is. The real Tyr is awesome
I sometimes forget that sigrun started out as a mere optional boss to a side quest. She had a few lines and that's it. But in ragnarök and valhalla she becomes such a deep and rich character i love it
Everyone talks about how Mimir's love story, but can we talk about how Kratos appreciate Faye in one of the dialogs. Even we have seen so little time they interact with each other, seeing those moments he appreciated her for being there for him and also changing him from what he used to be is really great to see for a character such Kratos.
"show me someone for whom friendship means lack of love, and I'll show you someone who wonders why their lovers are never worth their time" ...well that hit me like a brick wall
@@Genburthingthat's not what he said at all. He's saying that friendship is the foundation of love and people who don't treat their lovers like friends will not feel connected to them
What I've learned from gow Valhalla is that it's just one big therapy session from Kratos learning he can take the throne and be a God of hope to mimir letting go of sigrun and realizing he became a better man out of it, and sigrun learning to take the reigns of her life and take a path of her choosing. Valhalla is helping everyone with their traumas.
As a huge lifelong GoW fan, I was so pleasantly surprised to have this DLC and its lore harkening back to the old games As someone who wrote my college thesis on A Midsummer Night’s Dream, hearing Mimir recall the entire story within his dialogue made this whole thing WAY too good to be true for me
"If anyone else disparged you as you disparge yourself, I would wish to hit them with an axe." Just goes to show how much Kratos values Mimir's company.
The good version of the kind of character arc that media like the Mulan remake tried to make. Rather than concluding that she doesn't need anyone else and that everything she needs is within herself, Sigrun instead concludes that she DOES need other people - like Mimir - but that she also needs to know and rely on herself as well, that one needs a balance between acting for oneself and acting for the ones you care about.
Most heartwarming set of games. Kratos has loving friends, a good family, a future, and a goal to be the best man he can be. Dude went from rock bottom to the sky being the limit
I love how kratos and mimir are more like brothers talking to each other about their lives and sharing feelings rather than a god carrying a reanimated head
"show me someone for whom friendship means lack of love, and i'll show you someone who wonders why their lovers never end up being worth their time" beautiful and accurate. your love should be your best friend.
In an era where masculinity is vilified constantly by media, hats off to the team that made such a positive and wholesome lesson to be learned about what it means to be masculine but tempered, about compassion, love, friendship and loyalty and even parenthood
“Show me someone for whom friendship means lack of love, and I’ll show you someone who wonders why their lovers never end up being worth their time.” Wow.
It is incredibly wholesome and a little strange to see Kratos being the one questioning like Mimir does. I know he lost one friend in the game but I am glad he still has Mimir. And considering what he went through with Odin, I am glad Mimir has Kratos.
With how much everyone is trying to be better i still can't get over with just how Fucked over Sindri is right now. Their still just twisting that dagger with showing everyone else working towards a better tomorrow.
Just want to say, that I really enjoyed this DLC, they gave us so much more, much more stories to hear, uncover and understand but allow me to thank you as well for playing through this dlc and giving us the chance, well to some us, to further understand the stories. Cheers, Merry Christmas!
Kratos: Now **I** am mad at you. Considering the conversation topic, that's wholesome as all hell. Kratos has grown to value Mimir greatly, so hearing he thinks low of himself genuinely upsets Kratos
I absolutely love how they made a beautiful love story in this dlc by just the method of story telling most of the time...now we all can't wait for them to meet again in the next game...
Hope in the next game after the Atreus solo game we get a conclusion to this story. Mimir finds a way to restore his body and when Sigrun returns “whole” she will find him also whole again. Would be a very touching end to the story. Other way of doing this is that Mimir and Kratos die leaving an enraged Atreus and Sigrun.
One of the reasons why I liked Kratos from the very first game in 2005 was because, despite his anger, I always felt deep inside there was a human character with more to him than mere revenge and anger. In the original style games, from the trilogy, PSP games to Ascension, there were hints at that, but it kept being overshadowed by the anger and destruction and I initially was not a fan of God of War 3. When 2018 came out, I was kind of done with being a big fan of God of War, and while I thought 2018 was one of the best games of 2018, we already had a fantastic dad-and-child relationship story with TLoU that made 2018 less special, but I love that they've altered him into what I always pictured him as from the get-go. Ragnarok was my favorite game last year, although I didn't love the last hour or so.
Quite the character development we got here. From an Optional Boss in the previous game, to a compelling backstory and growing on us. The studio has quite a way with that.
24:22 Tyr, Kratos and Mimir giving a beautifull describtion of love and how once's own potential is found in the reflection of those we admire to be worthy of.
It’s still amazing to see Kratos continue to grow from the bloodthirsty savage he was in his younger days. Sometimes I still cant believe this is the same character that was 1st introduced to us on PS2. It it’s been great to see the evolution of the game itself going from a bloody acting game. That had as much gore as a game like Mortal Kombat. Where Kratos would show no mercy and throw away lives just to move to the next stage. It is now turned into a story of a remorseful man on the path to redemption still tormented by his past all while trying to raise his son and protect Astreus from his past mistakes. It is one of the most beautifully written sagas in gaming history. The story telling has just phenomenal in every recent installment. I know the ending will be just as grand.
Mimir eight hours later: “Dear God, man; those Valkyries are a *_FREAKY_* lot!” Kratos (now exhausted & possessing a swollen butthole after Freya pegged him all night): “I have noticed that.”
"So much of everything good that I am , is only due to my wanting to be the person she saw me as." The one of the most SINCERE lines Ive ever heard in a video game. This line BLEEDS love. Mimir really really cares about Sigrun.
It makes sense tho, better just take off all of your work gears in the HQ than taking off your helmet now and risk dropping it to the sea while carrying it
She and Mimir both strike me as the kinda people who are always doing something mildly goofy on purpose or by accident even when otherwise carrying themselves seriously. The helmet. The way they adapt to “oh you’re a disembodied head who has to be carried around with me like a lantern” thing. The fact that to get along with him back in his scoundrel days she had be able to at least appreciate goofy shit to some degree. Even if it was for a practical reason like making a new model or something keeping that thing on her face for this whole goodbye and not even realizing that’s a weird thing to do really works for me lol
I just love how this series went from kratos being just a simple badass monster to having a plethora of interesting, complex and genuine characters that all have so much developpment
What's great is that pieces of wisdom they share, about love, how it can change you, how you should treat the person you love and respect their choices, it doesn't sound like someone asked Google "wisdom about love". It all works and sounds earned, well thought-out.
Imagine if we get a game focused on Atreus where since both boi and Sigrun are out and about through the worlds that they reunite sometime in the game, the most unexpected but badass team up
Its honestly really hard to believe that they made a character such as mimir. How do you make someone such as him? So understanding so knowledgeable about not only the things in the game but alot of what he says you can take with you in this life as well. I would love to meet and talk to the person who made him like he is.
I love that this was because Mimir felt he couldn’t satisfy her since he’s just a head, and yet she took it as “I need to take this journey to find myself” like nah that’s def not what he meant
It's interesting that in 9:26 Mimir says that he was in a forest near Athens. Perhaps he and Kratos had crossed paths in the past and didn't really knew it.
There is an indirect connection. The incident Mimir is referencing is Shakespeare's play A Midsummer Night's Dream. Mimir is Puck. The Duke of Athens that is mentioned is Theseus, who Kratos kills in GoW 2. Notably Theseus is old by then, so it's likely that Kratos wasn't born when Mimir et al were hanging out in Greece.
This game is now my looping therapy sessions. It repeats the same dialogues and events each time I replay it, but it reminds me of the good I could be, even with the evils I try hard to contain. There has been multiple games for me but growing up playing God of War (yes, I played the game since I was 7. Not exactly something a 7 year old is allowed to do nor that I am proud of it but hey, here I am making a monologue for people to read), I can feel and understand the characters' struggle to better themselves in character, with all the bad they had and they could've been. I know I'm not someone who mercilessly slaughter innocent people in pursuit of vengeance, nor I am a scoundrel who toyed others because another scoundrels told me to, nor I am a skilled fighter who wanted my father's approval of all things, but I can see all that reflected in me; such as Atreus' yearning for a validation from Kratos, Kratos's attempt to leave the dark past behind and focus on the future, and Mimir's love and dedication to Sigrun that drives him to be better than he was, to the point that he's ready to let Sigrun go because he loves her so much. Sorry for the long text I wrote. Maybe I just wanted some place I could write all these down. No one else I know plays God of War and took the story as serious as I am. Whether you guys agree with me or not, I'm glad you guys took the time to read this mucho texto. Thanks everyone.
Your Journey when compare to the others, may seem inadequate as you and them have vastly different obstacles and landscapes to overcome but at the same time, you all share and strive to reach the same destination, the same goal. All journeys unique as they inherently individual by nature, but also by nature are they are equal for neither is lesser nor more important than the other. (I hope that made sense 😂) Anyhow, regarding you and your journey, there are only two things I can say: Good Job and keep going.
This game having straight up good lessons about life is damn amazing, and they fit the story perfectly, experiencing this ingame made me learn more about love too
I love how they tied mimir to king oberon and the events of a midsummer nights dream by shakespeare, all while putting their own spin on the story by making mimir the one who tricks titania (oberon's wife)
"If anyone else disparaged you as you disparage yourself, I would wish to strike them with an axe." Kratos has the weirdest way of showing that he cares about someone, but he is the kind of friend anyone would wish to have.
I really appreciate that they made a DLC with so much voice acting. It shows a true character and desire to continue the story. Not just make something people to play only to come back to the game and not develop the game
the fact that Puck from A Midsummer Night's Dream was actually Mimir is probably my favorite piece of lore to come out of the God of War universe...and that it's from such a touching side story to boot
Is surprising how Sigrun, despite being a superboss, has a surpsing amount of lore behind, knowing how most of the time, bonus and superbosses are not acknoweldged by the story
Since GoW4 i was hoping Mimir gets his body back, then we saw Haimdall get his arm back with bifrost and i thought maybe this would work for Mimir, but it never happened😢. This man needs a body and he deserves it !
Sigrun really went from an optional enemy who was annoyingly hard and wanted to take your life to someone who will save you and become a trustworthy comrade with a good story to tell
After having found love, I appreciate this game and these moments in it even more. She makes me want to be better, and I’m trying to be. I think I just need to give it time.
You guys are lucky.....I'm married and sometimes I do see the woman who I enjoyed being with but alot of other times I feel taken for granted but anyways I hope you guys grow and flourish in your relationships 😊😊
I wish you guys the best for the future, still haven’t found my other half but I will in time. Until then and after then, I hope you lads are happy and remain so.
@Watermelwn1015 because he thought he'd die. However it's uncertain if anything can kill him as he's very resistant to things that would kill him. Such as drowning, being in helheims cold, etc
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00:00 Intro
1:20 Mimir and Sigrun Romance - The Beginning
8:01 Mimir and Oberon the Fairy King
14:05 Sigrun Wants to Leave Valhalla
18:54 Mimir Lets Her Go
25:51 SECRET ENDING - Sigrun Leaves
Thank you for heeding my request. 😌
Yeah Oberon king of the fairy from Irish mythology correct?.
@@joshuatuplano7338the story about a midnight summer’s dream? Yep
Thank u very much for sharing this 😊
@@praneelprasad5042And among the most HATED anime villains of all time 😡
Kratos talking with Mimir like this makes me happy he has a real friend by his side literally all the time
yeah ever since ares son i forgot his name since god of war ascension game
kratos had a close friend but kills him with kindness
@@joshuagraham2843Yeah but he spoke like a MAN to him.
In Ragnarok he says feminine stuff and never shuts up
@@newhybrid101
You mean the way he talks about his old life and the growth he's been through? Or when he consoles other people? That's not feminine, I'd argue that makes him more of a man
@@newhybrid101feminime stuff like what telling his story 🤷🏻♂️ are you dumb ? So just because he tell his story he look like a female wtf
@@thegreatmonacage3782right? I’d argue everyone is their best self when they can be introspective & mindful. Kratos being able to confront his life thus far head-on makes him even more of a badass
Tyr's therapy session really changes Kratos for better, from a grumpy old man into a caring brother that no one would ask but loved to stay and talk with.
Finally someone said it, I really like Tyr's personality his like a friend who is just a tall chill guy with an understanding to help the people in need
Oh FFS 🤮
@@Matt_Underwoodokay I'm dying 💀🥒
@@Matt_Underwood perfection
Kratos finally became someone who he needed the most.
A therapist.
bro that "Now I am mad at you" from Kratos had me in tears
Its weird to see kratos be so open and have friends. But ever since 2018 that feeling went away. Kratos's character development is one of the best in fiction
@@assassingamer5983It used to be good,at this point they are ruining him
@@newhybrid101What would you define as "good" character development then?
@@newhybrid101 why do you say that?
they ruined him by made him human lets bring back the zoooooooooOOOOOSSS FUCK U FATHER ZOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOS I MUST HAVE MY REVENNNNGE @@newhybrid101
I forgive Sigrun for being such a pain in the ass in 2018. Who knew that an optional boss would have such a compelling story and character development😢 Good bye Sigrun, and thanks for saving Kratos and Mimir from Valhalla
Whose to say we will see her again in a future GoW game? She could become an awesome companion.
I hope Sigrun will let Mimir redeem himself, at least as a friend.
@@Butter_Warrior99 *Lover
Why?
She was posessed by Odin.
It was clearly stated by themselves.
In Ragnarok you see it as Atreus how he posesses his army.
Blame Odin.
@@allykelly It’s a long road from friend to lover. But friend is a decent jump off point.
I like how even Kratos was like "bro you fumbled the bag HARD"
he fumbled on purpose tho
Mimir wasn't joking though he knew what he was saying he truely did think that he couldnt be all she wanted and needed him to be and i dont blame him to be honest they both need to find themselves fully and would be nice for Mimir to have a full body again then maybe they both can finally do what they truely want and the fact Kratos sees this and understands why and yet still calls him out on it shows how much he has improved from the unrelenting rage induced powerhouse that kills for the sake of it and for vengence
Valhalla isn’t just the Norse Afterlife, it’s a huge therapy session basically
Basically Purgatory in the Catholic tradition.
I find it interesting, it's an afterlife to review your whole life to settle any old doubts/regrets and finding peace with yourself before moving on.
Even better, you can choose to stay in the particular segment of Valhalla
Funny, I always see Valhalla as Norse Heaven for warriors usually in TV shows & Cartoons.
Guess that was just the simple way of showing that to people who don’t know much about Norse Mythology compared to Greek.
I knew this entire time Tyr was this version of Jesus Christ
How far we’ve come from kratos saying “quiet head” to “how is your love life going brother?”
i guess the years of having the right aproach helped him get on his good side. its odd how can someone have so much respect for a talking bodyless head.
I just respect him for collecting ALL these lines and stories it just helps us understand more of the characters background. I know it's a simple sentence but I always ignored their tales while I'm grinding 😅
Got you buddy
@@VideoGameSophistry tnx bro
Best therapy also
@@VideoGameSophistrymvp
Right I know it was time consuming
One thing I haven’t heard many people mention is that Kratos is ACTIVELY asking for stories and lore, I saw this as almost a call back to when Atreus asked for the story behind Draupnir and Kratos didn’t have it because “Atreus was not there to ask” I feel like Kratos actively seeking out these stories is him making sure Atreus doesn’t miss out on the wonderful stories he knows his son would like to know about. Idk maybe I’m looking too deep into this lol just a thought
I agree
I mean why not both. Kratos is now showing interests again in the world. Him wanting to show Atreus the horse or him wanting to revisit thw wolves or how he ships Angrboda to his son is him becoming a person and a father. Now he actively seeks stories because he is interested in them. He let his son make his own path but he'll definitely miss him and he will have a lot of stories to tell once he comeback home.
in GOW ps4, the lore entries in the game took the form of journal entries written from atreus's POV, a practice instilled in him by faye while growing up, which kratos never fully understood. in valhalla, they are written in kratos's perspective, some addressed to atreus. im almost certain you are already on the mark.
You're not. The way the lore entries (in Valhalla) are written supports this idea. He constantly references missing Atreus and they're written as if they're directed at him.
@@fetaccineAYeah, that. Lol
Conclusion to everyone's main issues
Kratos: His rage and actions
for vengeance
Mimir: Working for dumbasses so much hes self consious
Freya: Maniuplated beyond human comprehension
Atreus:Full approval from Kratos(for the most part)
Helios: A peice of shit for eternity
Tyr: Being a therapist for these complicated ass people
Well for all the greatness Tyr showed, he did abdicate his position and responsibilities but he came out better. Maybe running away is really an option but going back and facing the issues again should be the next step. And this is what he taught Kratos and the others.
I can understand Helios being a dick to Kratos. I mean, Kratos killed him, his homeland and family.
Týr. God of Therapy
*God of Týrapy*
@@justlivinglife5609 that is fucking gold
To be fair, I think most people would hold a grudge if someone did to them what Kratos did to Helios.
I love how Mimir references allot of Shakespeare in Ragnarok, first Macbeth and now Midsummer Nights Dream.
Interesting, if this is canonically shakespearean literature then this implies that god of war plays sometime in the 15th century but it wouldn’t necessarily make real sense.
Unless Mimirs homeland like greece here is a different reality so there might be some variations in time or how these tales exist within these realities.
@@LordBackuro I think this is more of a nod of Mimir being from UK lol
@@LordBackuro these are just myths. The full extent of the myths in norse mythology happen in a different time than the greek. But we are INSIDE those mythologies, not in the world they were written. Shakespere's writings might might just co-exist with every other fable or myth, no matter when they were written.
i guessed he liked it
@@CarnerioTostadoI'm not sure if this applies, but a solid way for the myths and legends to coexist is to apply the idea that was employed in Earth-27.
Imagine a dimension where stories actually exist, and their exploits get transferred into a form of psychic energy that would inspire writers in the main dimension? Now, that's just for the fairy tale portion. The myths and legends, however, take place in both the physical realm, and another realm where souls and spirits are both made, gathered, and pooled upon death; and almost each pocket realm is the home of pantheons that tether themselves to Earth for sustenance.
"If you love someone let them go. If they come back to you, it's yours. If it doesn't it was never meant to be."
Too soon😔
The original quote is better. ''If you love someone set them free, if they come back it's ment to be.''
If you love someone let them go, if they come back give them a std test...if that comes back clean, take em back
"If you love someone let them go, and if their name is Jenny don't take her back."
“A great love is a lot like a good memory. When it's there, and you know it's there, but it’s just out of your reach, it can be all that you think about. And you can focus on it, and try to force it. But the more that you do, the more you seem to push it away. But if you're patient, and hold still...Maybe. Just maybe, it'll come to you.” -Church from Red Vs Blue
“Show me someone for whom friendship means lack of love, and I’ll show you someone who wonders why their lovers never end up being worth their time.”
Mimir just described the absurdity of the concept of the “friendzone”, certainly the smartest man alive.
The main point of the friend zone idea isn't that it is a lack of love but rather it isn't the love that someone strived for and not everyone can accept. They aren't owed the love but they don't have to just be happy about it either since it can be hard to see someone you hold a candle for to go and be with other people and learn that you were never an option in their mind nor would you ever be.
The only honost way too interpret that line in the context of the friendzone would be realizing that if you are in a friendship only for the hopes of getting laid then that isn't a true friendship or love and you should probably look inward a bit more.
@@bacchus8081 not to mention that there are some that keep potential love interessts in a "box" as a friend for later down the line
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@@omnipresentl1316Respectfully I disagree, at least with regards to what you’re saying as pertains to Mimir’s quote. I understand it as Mimir saying that if that love would look to you and truly consider you a friend, then it takes a fool not to recognise how powerful that trust is. It may not have been the love that you had wanted, but only the shortsighted would not recognise how lucky they are to be called friend by one they respect and cherish. And they wonder why their own lovers never end up being worth their own time (IE, the person in the friend zone thinks their own partners unworthy), because they don’t understand that real, genuine friendship is one of the strongest loves there is, and without understanding that loving a person as they are, independent of your wants (ie, a friend), you cannot hope to truly love and be loved romantically.
Incredible to me that a video game can inspire such a great philosophical debate amongst fans!
It's hilarious to se Kratos being embarrasingly quiet as a third wheel while these two lovers talk about their intimacies and future.
Also Kratos: Killing the Giant Freya revived was easier than this.
This is why I love Mimir so much in this game. He’s so understanding and selfless. The fact that he put Sigrun’s choices and happiness first over his own pride makes him a true, positive role model. I’m glad this game is making all the male characters positive role models, except for Atreus, and sympathetic. It shows that the level of maturity and respect for the male demographic and representation is so strong and pure.
Atreus is quite literally every angsty male teenager going through life trying to set himself apart from his parents only to fuck everything up in the process and ends up needing them to help put it right. He's an excellent representation of our own teenage years of being young and foolish, thinking we know what we're doing.
@@sekira4516real Absolutely Real
And Sigrun reciprocate those feelings "let me return to you, whole"
I love those 2 so much, and I'll patiently wait for see them reunited in the future.
@@horrorsans3676in the next game for sure 🤞🏻
@@horrorsans3676so she decide to go onto an adventure to become whole? Hope she comes back soon.
Tyr really just starting a big therapy session for all the characters lmao
When will Sindri get his big therapy session with Tyr, he's the one who really needs it the most
We need Sindri to get his head cleared again and make mirmir a body
Problem: Sindri hasn't died, and thus, can not enter Valhalla until he has.
Tbh I’m not sure he’d be keen on seeing Tyr just yet given that he saw plenty of “Tyr” before Odin revealed himself and killed his brother
@@Blurgamer17he’s definitely emotionally dead, that’s for sure
@@lordflarus Unfortunately, Valhalla requires physical death.
God it makes me so happy seeing the real tyr in action and how much Odin tried slandering his character and how good of a person he truly is and isn’t a pushover as well since he is a master of arms and could easily have been able to sway ragnarok way more on their favor and maybe not lose freyr
As a huge Tyr fan I’m very glad he’s not an asshole or villain, love his little sassy moments here tho like when he gets annoyed of Helios
@@Grimsly3736hes kinda like a norse jesus and thats cool as fuck
@@BitrateBilly you know, he might just be Jesus as well, Mimir is also Puck from Celtic mythology after all. But I’d imagine he’s not quite Jesus yet in canon
@@Grimsly3736 that would be a hard ass reveal and would explain both how hes got such a cracked-out arsenal and why hes so chill
I replayed the story after completing the Valhalla DLC (so I could go through again as Young Kratos), and man it just highlights how bullshit Odin’s version of Tyr is. The real Tyr is awesome
I sometimes forget that sigrun started out as a mere optional boss to a side quest. She had a few lines and that's it. But in ragnarök and valhalla she becomes such a deep and rich character i love it
I love how Mimir gives us an entire retelling of "A Midsummer Night's Dream" from his perspective
Everyone talks about how Mimir's love story, but can we talk about how Kratos appreciate Faye in one of the dialogs. Even we have seen so little time they interact with each other, seeing those moments he appreciated her for being there for him and also changing him from what he used to be is really great to see for a character such Kratos.
Also, with his regret for being so neglectful to his first wife, he really wanted to change, and he got it. This DLC was awesome
Mimir needs his body back man 😭
I thought he was gonna get a body in ragnorock because the two dwarfs were doing measurements on him in the first game
Huldra project #9 might not have been a body, but it made bodies. Sadly, it still isn't enough.
@@urielandbb9725 me two
Maybe when we get to Ireland
He needs to sleep with that Valkyrie sigrun and finally let him be happy
"show me someone for whom friendship means lack of love, and I'll show you someone who wonders why their lovers are never worth their time"
...well that hit me like a brick wall
literally Mimir Says: “Show me someone that lack friends and bitches”
@@Genburthingthat's not what he said at all. He's saying that friendship is the foundation of love and people who don't treat their lovers like friends will not feel connected to them
What I've learned from gow Valhalla is that it's just one big therapy session from Kratos learning he can take the throne and be a God of hope to mimir letting go of sigrun and realizing he became a better man out of it, and sigrun learning to take the reigns of her life and take a path of her choosing. Valhalla is helping everyone with their traumas.
Except Sindri, poor guy
As a huge lifelong GoW fan, I was so pleasantly surprised to have this DLC and its lore harkening back to the old games
As someone who wrote my college thesis on A Midsummer Night’s Dream, hearing Mimir recall the entire story within his dialogue made this whole thing WAY too good to be true for me
I love when people realise this too!
It was one of my first professional productions, I had the pleasure of playing Bottom.
I love how this game takes secondary and optional characters from the first game and turns them into important characters
"If anyone else disparged you as you disparge yourself, I would wish to hit them with an axe."
Just goes to show how much Kratos values Mimir's company.
“I caused her to fall in love with something preposterous…an actor” 😂
The good version of the kind of character arc that media like the Mulan remake tried to make. Rather than concluding that she doesn't need anyone else and that everything she needs is within herself, Sigrun instead concludes that she DOES need other people - like Mimir - but that she also needs to know and rely on herself as well, that one needs a balance between acting for oneself and acting for the ones you care about.
Like in Game of Thrones with Arya and Gendry they should've been married but Arya left instead 😢
Most heartwarming set of games. Kratos has loving friends, a good family, a future, and a goal to be the best man he can be. Dude went from rock bottom to the sky being the limit
“Now I am mad at you”
Hearing that made me laugh. They’ve become so close now lol
I love how kratos and mimir are more like brothers talking to each other about their lives and sharing feelings rather than a god carrying a reanimated head
"show me someone for whom friendship means lack of love, and i'll show you someone who wonders why their lovers never end up being worth their time" beautiful and accurate. your love should be your best friend.
In an era where masculinity is vilified constantly by media, hats off to the team that made such a positive and wholesome lesson to be learned about what it means to be masculine but tempered, about compassion, love, friendship and loyalty and even parenthood
Mimir is responsible for the events of Midsummer Night's Dream. That makes an astounding amount of sense
I’m so glad someone else saw that as well, I have a fairy that Atreus is going to be Merlin in his own solo game.
Didn’t they say his name is Puck in some instances of the game?
@@dreampiper yup
“Show me someone for whom friendship means lack of love, and I’ll show you someone who wonders why their lovers never end up being worth their time.”
Wow.
Kratos: " gods get a room "
It is incredibly wholesome and a little strange to see Kratos being the one questioning like Mimir does. I know he lost one friend in the game but I am glad he still has Mimir. And considering what he went through with Odin, I am glad Mimir has Kratos.
They have a such a beautiful bond the bestest of friends
The DLC is just a long needed therapy session not just for Kratos but for Mimir and Sigrun.
Stealing another comment I saw here: everyone needs Tyrapy.
With how much everyone is trying to be better i still can't get over with just how Fucked over Sindri is right now. Their still just twisting that dagger with showing everyone else working towards a better tomorrow.
I wonder what his reaction would be to the real Tyr
Just want to say, that I really enjoyed this DLC, they gave us so much more, much more stories to hear, uncover and understand but allow me to thank you as well for playing through this dlc and giving us the chance, well to some us, to further understand the stories. Cheers, Merry Christmas!
Kratos: Now **I** am mad at you.
Considering the conversation topic, that's wholesome as all hell. Kratos has grown to value Mimir greatly, so hearing he thinks low of himself genuinely upsets Kratos
It's not goodbye...its until we meet again 😢😢😢
The lesson: the most difficult person to learn to love is oneself.
I absolutely love how they made a beautiful love story in this dlc by just the method of story telling most of the time...now we all can't wait for them to meet again in the next game...
This is by far the greatest DLC Ever .. Our boi Kratos has finally found inner peace.
It's been one hell of a Journey.
the writing is so good man.. just love how they write these simple lines so subtly and so powerful! Thank you SMS!
Hope in the next game after the Atreus solo game we get a conclusion to this story. Mimir finds a way to restore his body and when Sigrun returns “whole” she will find him also whole again. Would be a very touching end to the story. Other way of doing this is that Mimir and Kratos die leaving an enraged Atreus and Sigrun.
While I hate the idea of Kratos and Mimir dying, I would sell my soul to play a game with Sigrun as your companion
@@countlessofvoidsBe careful saying things like that, you may end up giving EA some ideas
One of the reasons why I liked Kratos from the very first game in 2005 was because, despite his anger, I always felt deep inside there was a human character with more to him than mere revenge and anger. In the original style games, from the trilogy, PSP games to Ascension, there were hints at that, but it kept being overshadowed by the anger and destruction and I initially was not a fan of God of War 3. When 2018 came out, I was kind of done with being a big fan of God of War, and while I thought 2018 was one of the best games of 2018, we already had a fantastic dad-and-child relationship story with TLoU that made 2018 less special, but I love that they've altered him into what I always pictured him as from the get-go. Ragnarok was my favorite game last year, although I didn't love the last hour or so.
And this is how we will found about new Mythologies that will need the hand of the Ghost of Sparta
21:50 Mimir out here spitting another fact.
24:49 and so does Kratos
Quite the character development we got here. From an Optional Boss in the previous game, to a compelling backstory and growing on us.
The studio has quite a way with that.
24:22 Tyr, Kratos and Mimir giving a beautifull describtion of love and how once's own potential is found in the reflection of those we admire to be worthy of.
It’s still amazing to see Kratos continue to grow from the bloodthirsty savage he was in his younger days. Sometimes I still cant believe this is the same character that was 1st introduced to us on PS2. It it’s been great to see the evolution of the game itself going from a bloody acting game. That had as much gore as a game like Mortal Kombat. Where Kratos would show no mercy and throw away lives just to move to the next stage. It is now turned into a story of a remorseful man on the path to redemption still tormented by his past all while trying to raise his son and protect Astreus from his past mistakes. It is one of the most beautifully written sagas in gaming history. The story telling has just phenomenal in every recent installment. I know the ending will be just as grand.
Love your work, thank you for the hours you've spent putting all your videos together! ❤
Mimir: sorry my love i can't do any more, i have no body
Sigrin: but you can still eat it 😂
Mimir eight hours later: “Dear God, man; those Valkyries are a *_FREAKY_* lot!”
Kratos (now exhausted & possessing a swollen butthole after Freya pegged him all night): “I have noticed that.”
@@zsu-23-4shilka2why would you make me imagine that😭
No
@@zsu-23-4shilka2 What did you just bring upon this cursed land
@@zsu-23-4shilka2Still better imagery than the "animation" where he gets pegged by a full-package Aphrodite in GoW3.
"So much of everything good that I am , is only due to my wanting to be the person she saw me as."
The one of the most SINCERE lines Ive ever heard in a video game. This line BLEEDS love. Mimir really really cares about Sigrun.
Was hoping we'd get a Sigrun face reveal and she wouldn't say goodbye with her helmet on like a goof. But I guess it wasn't to be, oh well.
It makes sense tho, better just take off all of your work gears in the HQ than taking off your helmet now and risk dropping it to the sea while carrying it
I'm not entirely sure Sigrun even could take her helmet off, as a Valkyrie.
She and Mimir both strike me as the kinda people who are always doing something mildly goofy on purpose or by accident even when otherwise carrying themselves seriously. The helmet. The way they adapt to “oh you’re a disembodied head who has to be carried around with me like a lantern” thing. The fact that to get along with him back in his scoundrel days she had be able to at least appreciate goofy shit to some degree. Even if it was for a practical reason like making a new model or something keeping that thing on her face for this whole goodbye and not even realizing that’s a weird thing to do really works for me lol
“I caused her to fall in love with something preposterous”
“An actor”
Me laughs ass off
I just love how this series went from kratos being just a simple badass monster to having a plethora of interesting, complex and genuine characters that all have so much developpment
Kratos might have the best character development out of any video game character ever.
3:30 "Now I am mad at you." Kratos, best wingman in all the realms.
Translation: *face palm: bruh
What's great is that pieces of wisdom they share, about love, how it can change you, how you should treat the person you love and respect their choices, it doesn't sound like someone asked Google "wisdom about love". It all works and sounds earned, well thought-out.
That "I'll wait for you on the beach" gives me vibes from death stranding
Mimir is the Rizzlord
Zeus: A...Rizz..LORD?
Kratos: Yes the one we have been looking for
That silver tongue works like magic.
Rizzmir 😏😏
@@lunalegionSigrun probably thinks so.
Kratos went from grump old man that doesn’t give a damn to a caring friend and brother
All hail Tyr, the God of Therapy!
you know you f'd up when even Kratos among all people is pissed at you for upsetting your lady like that
Imagine if we get a game focused on Atreus where since both boi and Sigrun are out and about through the worlds that they reunite sometime in the game, the most unexpected but badass team up
Its honestly really hard to believe that they made a character such as mimir. How do you make someone such as him? So understanding so knowledgeable about not only the things in the game but alot of what he says you can take with you in this life as well. I would love to meet and talk to the person who made him like he is.
"Are you alright?"
Three words that servse as solid proof of Kratos character development.
17:01
Mimir: Wot?
I love that this was because Mimir felt he couldn’t satisfy her since he’s just a head, and yet she took it as “I need to take this journey to find myself” like nah that’s def not what he meant
“Now *I* am mad at you”
Best line of the video😂 spoken like a real brother
Kratos out of all people in this good Earth being "interested" in Mimir's romantic life is the biggest character development in the history of gaming.
It's interesting that in 9:26 Mimir says that he was in a forest near Athens. Perhaps he and Kratos had crossed paths in the past and didn't really knew it.
There is an indirect connection. The incident Mimir is referencing is Shakespeare's play A Midsummer Night's Dream. Mimir is Puck. The Duke of Athens that is mentioned is Theseus, who Kratos kills in GoW 2.
Notably Theseus is old by then, so it's likely that Kratos wasn't born when Mimir et al were hanging out in Greece.
This game is now my looping therapy sessions. It repeats the same dialogues and events each time I replay it, but it reminds me of the good I could be, even with the evils I try hard to contain. There has been multiple games for me but growing up playing God of War (yes, I played the game since I was 7. Not exactly something a 7 year old is allowed to do nor that I am proud of it but hey, here I am making a monologue for people to read), I can feel and understand the characters' struggle to better themselves in character, with all the bad they had and they could've been. I know I'm not someone who mercilessly slaughter innocent people in pursuit of vengeance, nor I am a scoundrel who toyed others because another scoundrels told me to, nor I am a skilled fighter who wanted my father's approval of all things, but I can see all that reflected in me; such as Atreus' yearning for a validation from Kratos, Kratos's attempt to leave the dark past behind and focus on the future, and Mimir's love and dedication to Sigrun that drives him to be better than he was, to the point that he's ready to let Sigrun go because he loves her so much.
Sorry for the long text I wrote. Maybe I just wanted some place I could write all these down. No one else I know plays God of War and took the story as serious as I am.
Whether you guys agree with me or not, I'm glad you guys took the time to read this mucho texto. Thanks everyone.
Your Journey when compare to the others, may seem inadequate as you and them have vastly different obstacles and landscapes to overcome but at the same time, you all share and strive to reach the same destination, the same goal. All journeys unique as they inherently individual by nature, but also by nature are they are equal for neither is lesser nor more important than the other.
(I hope that made sense 😂)
Anyhow, regarding you and your journey, there are only two things I can say:
Good Job and keep going.
This game having straight up good lessons about life is damn amazing, and they fit the story perfectly, experiencing this ingame made me learn more about love too
I love how they tied mimir to king oberon and the events of a midsummer nights dream by shakespeare, all while putting their own spin on the story by making mimir the one who tricks titania (oberon's wife)
4:22 I love kratos defending mimir. ❤
"If anyone else disparaged you as you disparage yourself, I would wish to strike them with an axe."
Kratos has the weirdest way of showing that he cares about someone, but he is the kind of friend anyone would wish to have.
i love that mimir summarizes a midsummer nights dream
Damn ngl this kinda pulled some heart strings for me and a little emotional. It was a nice thing they added. Happy there really was more to this dlc
I love that this time Mimir’s stories are just an abridged retelling of a midsummer night’s dream
I really appreciate that they made a DLC with so much voice acting. It shows a true character and desire to continue the story. Not just make something people to play only to come back to the game and not develop the game
9:26
Back up…MIMIR HAS BEEN TO ATHENS?!
Yep, he's Puck from Shakespeare's 'A Midsummer Night's Dream'. Whole play takes place just outside the city.
You forgot to turn around at the end after Kratos says lets clear our minds, and press the Circle Button prompt above Freya.
the fact that Puck from A Midsummer Night's Dream was actually Mimir is probably my favorite piece of lore to come out of the God of War universe...and that it's from such a touching side story to boot
2018 Kratos: “HEAD”
Ragnarok Kratos: “so what’s the chisme”
God i love all these dialogues, i could hear all day 😊😊
Is surprising how Sigrun, despite being a superboss, has a surpsing amount of lore behind, knowing how most of the time, bonus and superbosses are not acknoweldged by the story
It would be cool if in the next game Will you play as atreus and you run into sigrun and she becomes your companion for the game
I just wish that we can see sigrun without her mask and wings in the next god of war game.
Since GoW4 i was hoping Mimir gets his body back, then we saw Haimdall get his arm back with bifrost and i thought maybe this would work for Mimir, but it never happened😢. This man needs a body and he deserves it !
Sigrun really went from an optional enemy who was annoyingly hard and wanted to take your life to someone who will save you and become a trustworthy comrade with a good story to tell
After having found love, I appreciate this game and these moments in it even more. She makes me want to be better, and I’m trying to be.
I think I just need to give it time.
I feel you on that one …listening to this made me tear because of how much I truly value my lady
You guys are lucky.....I'm married and sometimes I do see the woman who I enjoyed being with but alot of other times I feel taken for granted but anyways I hope you guys grow and flourish in your relationships 😊😊
I wish you guys the best for the future, still haven’t found my other half but I will in time. Until then and after then, I hope you lads are happy and remain so.
What a beautiful story full of lessons and healthy relationships and learning how to heal. What a gift.
Man that is some character development from kratos. He’s really grown since 2018
Imagine in the next game sigrun comes back only to find Mimir dead.
The only way that would happen is if someone turned off the vanir spell to reanimate him. As that only can happen once.
@@bizzaroblake2519 he was pretty scared to be burned
@@Watermelwn1015well he’d still feel it. He just wouldn’t die from it.
@Watermelwn1015 because he thought he'd die. However it's uncertain if anything can kill him as he's very resistant to things that would kill him. Such as drowning, being in helheims cold, etc
Or stabbed...@@bizzaroblake2519
Mimmir and sigruns relationship is actually beautiful