Good video, Should maybe mention that the first bolts needing remove are easy to strip when breaking loose, and easy to break off when over-tightening. Also oil will leak if not tight enough… u made it look too easy lol ❤
I watched a few videos of this nature, yours was best, you verbal walk through is good too. second best was a Japanese kid, no words, some words on the screen. I have a honda but this bike is much the same. Cool man
The 'sharp' side is just the stamping process, they don't bother to smooth off the sharp edge that is left, typical with stamped out pieces. (metal trivia lol)
I would like advice on a KTM clutch. 2012 EXC. I’m changing oil for the fourth time and my clutch is still sticking. I used to drive Motul 710 2T, now I tried Motul 5100 10W40, 15W50, Motul Transoil Expert 10W40 (that was the best but not perfect) and now Motorex 4T 10W40 as well. It can be easily emptied, but it carries the engine with the clutch retracted and disassembles it into a gas splash. I put the clutch on its atoms for the second time, which I see: Springs length 40.85mm, factory value min. 42.5 -43mm Push rod length 192mm, factory value 199mm (I think it is written in your book, because I think the clutch would not work at all with a 7mm diff) Wear lamellas have a uniform thickness of 2.85 mm, factory value min. It would be 2.6mm, and the factory new one would be 2.7mm (I think it could be a spelling here too) Metal slats uniformly 1.3mm all in all. With 240 and 320 papers, I completely sanded them all off, as if they were new and straight as well. The clutch basket is not tucked in, but the needle roller underneath is minimally hanging, no sound yet. I would be very grateful if someone could help solve the mystery, what could be the problem ??
Hey MS, We're here to help. Glad that you found the video helpful and now feel more confident in spinning your own wrenches. Not only does that save you money, but it also keeps you more connected to the condition of your machine. Thanks for watching our videos and the positive feedback. You're a subscriber to our channel, right? Ride safe. BB.com!
what kind of bike do you have? i had a ktm the basket came out before the inner clutch cover but on my honda you have to take the inner cover off, then you remove the lock from the big nut in the middle and take it off the hub and basket come out with some washers and shit, keep track of them, put it in how you took it off and look up the torque specs on the nut
Your adjustment is probably too tight, loosen the adjustment up by your clutch lever to where you have a quarter to half inch play in the lever itself. Having it too tight can leave the clutch slightly disengaged therefore not have the proper grip. You will burn the clutch up fast if you leave it that way.
How do I know that I have to rebuild the clutch? I am quite new to MX and I was recently rebuilding a 02 YZ 250 and I love the bike. But I got some clutch problems - means: Sometimes even if I use the clutch lever, it seems hard to shift. I think the clutch hasnt been rebuild for ages (one of the few parts I didnt rebuild). And another question: If the basket has some grooves - can I simply take a smooth rasp and remove the sharp grooves, instead buying a new basket? Thank you! Btw... thank you very much for all you videos - they helped me alot while rebuilding this old (but very nice) bike :) Greetings!
Hi Steve, I replaced my 2004 kx125 clutch exactly as you did. But my clutch has no tension. I mean the cable is ok. But the clutch lever on the other side of the bike has no tension. Do you have any idea about what is going on??? Tks
Just a question, I got a Modenas Kriss II and I found this video very useful. So I wanted to know is this video only for dirt bikes or can be useful on my bike too?
+γιωργος μαυροειδης Hey there, All versions of the Kriss motorcycles have a traditional 4-speed transmission. Your clutch internals should be very similar to what you see in this video. Any motorcycles that have a multi-plate clutch system will be right along the same lines too.
i haveb a yz 125 also i have clutch it doesnt slip but i tightend the cable all the way and still the sameidk and. when u pull it in the garage does it smell like semi brakes or burning oil?
2010 KX250f, clutch isnt engaging even when the cable is fully tightened. What problem is this? When its put into gear it still wants to crawl even when the clutch is fully IN. What do i do?
What oil should we soak them in? (just kidding). I came to see if I could just lean my bike over and not need to dump the oil since I just changed it. My clutch plates are acting worn out as they should be by now.
my yz125 has a problem, when i put it in first gear it starts to pull and iv tried to tighten the cable and iv tightend it all the way and it still does it should i do this?
this is a long, shot but please tell me you found a solution to that? my yz fucking pulls with clutch fully in, all tightened up etc. Installed a new cable, probably made it worse... did you manage to fix it?
I have a suzuki pe250 and my clutch wont disengage, i can shift but when i hold the clutch down and put it in first it suddenly stalls, ive tried tightening the cable i tried loosening it. nothing seems to work
in my clutch 2 discs were cracked or smashed into pieces! I'm just wondering why. Maybe you have some idea or you have seen it to. Other discs were perfect. I replaced all the discs. Now when i sometimes release the clutch to do a wheelie it sometimes makes some scratching noise. I put in the discs dry. Maybe thy are not oiled so well and still dry. Anyway i will keep riding and i hope they will be oiled.
Hi Farmboy, There could be many factors as why the disk would crack, without seeing and knowing the history it would be virtually impossible to tell. It could be as simple as those were the weakest ones in the pack. As for the new disks, make sure you follow the install instruction to the letter, clutches can be very temperamental if not installed and broken in properly!
That was the problem of that noise. I didn't install them in correct order. 2 of the discs were different. One had to be at the begining and the other at the end. Everything is now fine
Hey! I have a Yamaha TTR 125le and it won't shift. Do you have any idea what could be wrong with it? It just stays in neutral even when i can hear it shifting gears.
Hi steve, i ride a rm 125 from 2010 and i have a clutch problem :0 when i want to start it feels like it have 2 starts like slowly start to ride it feels like the first pick up is earlier than the second one the clutch plates are new ! i replace the oil enough ! i heard about the metal plates with the sharp size towards the bike but i don't know where the sharp size is pointing to ? Does anyone know ?? Thanks.
Hay i have a 200 xr honda dirt bike and when i do a could start and i ride it it high revs when i git on it or give it gas so to speek so what do i do.
Everytime I try to remove the pressure plate bolts the whole basket rotates. my engine will not shift up or down so i cant change the gear if that would help. any tips on how to make sure the basket isnt rotating while lossening the bolts ?
+509 fmx Hey 509, So your transmission will not shift into gear? How about using a dowel to stop the rear tire from spinning? Keep us posted please. Thanks. BB.com
+BikeBandit the motor is currently out of the bike on my work bench. the bike sat for a while causing the plates to stick.so i opened the clutch cover and found the last clutch plate before the pressure plate has chipped. but when the motor was in the bike before removal and it was off i shifted into first gear and its stuck. the the foot shifter will not click up, down, or back into neutral. so i took the motor out and put it on my bench now i cant get the bolts that hold the pressure plate to loosen without all the gears rotating and moving the piston up and down.
Hey Sellz,We're glad that you found the video enjoyable and useful. Let us know if we can be of any other assistance.Thanks for the support and enjoy the ride.
+elijah feldman Hey EF, Absolutely you can be competitive on your '05 compared to a '16. The difference in horsepower and weight between the two bikes is minimal. The best component to improve performance on, is actually YOU as the rider. 95% of riders on 250F's can't actually use all of the power. Get yourself more comfortable at speed, and most importantly on the brakes. Put on a new set of tires, bleed your brakes, and adjust the suspension to your weight, and you'll be surprised at how fast a 250F can be. Anyone can go fast in a straight line. Practice keeping corner speeds up, and getting hard on the brakes, as that is where races are won. Thanks for watching our videos and the question. You're a subscriber to our channel, right? Ride safe. BB.com!
+elijah feldman Hey EF, When it comes to your "beater", maybe it just needs a freshening up? How many hours on your top end? Although now we're starting to talk some serious money, if it doesn't leak or consume oil, try to do the more inexpensive mods first. Sometimes we forget that we as the rider is the most crucial component in the equation. Remember that it's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog. Thanks for the like and the share, and we assume that you're subscribed too. OK, now go out there and have fun on your motorcycle. Ride safe. BB.com!
I'm planning on getting barnett clutch plates for my bike just had it rebuilt, and I had a new barnett clutch basket installed while it wad being rebuilt, I started it and noticed a little knocking what could it be? Just had rebuilt
Jonathan Nockideneh Could be a couple of things, but either way, don't start it again until you take the cover off and see if you can figure out without taking the plates out of the basket, etc.Might be something totally obvious. If you had a mechanic do the work, take it back.
Jonathan Nockideneh Clutch baskets don't usually knock. Clutch noise usually chatters when new plates are used in old baskets, and the teeth/fingers have grooves that hinder the smooth movement of the new plates. Depending on the basket and/or clutch kit that you put in, some them advise against using a full synthetic oil. Keep us posted though for sure please.
Why do clutch parts have to be so expensive :( my basket is worn,my clutch plates are worn ,so are my springs. only my iner hub is OK :( :( and i'm 16 and have to buy all this my self. lol.
he fails to mentions "many" inspection and procedural items during his R&R process. read the manual for your bike - don't listen to what this guys says. he's leaving most of the important information our of his discussin.
best motocross mechanic ive seen!! great knowledge!! nice guy!! thumbs up mate:)
Good video, Should maybe mention that the first bolts needing remove are easy to strip when breaking loose, and easy to break off when over-tightening. Also oil will leak if not tight enough… u made it look too easy lol ❤
does it matter at all which orientation the plates go in? Noticed they had groves on the ends.
No se
thanks for the video..good tips on sharps side up or down..something i never even thought about checking...appreciate that
I watched a few videos of this nature, yours was best, you verbal walk through is good too. second best was a Japanese kid, no words, some words on the screen. I have a honda but this bike is much the same. Cool man
The 'sharp' side is just the stamping
process, they don't bother to smooth
off the sharp edge that is left, typical
with stamped out pieces. (metal trivia lol)
Do you have to use a gasket to put on clutch cover
It all depends on the exact bike. Some are reusable but almost all have some sort of a gasket or o ring
How do the plates come from the factory, Round side or flat side out/up?
I would like advice on a KTM clutch. 2012 EXC. I’m changing oil for the fourth time and my clutch is still sticking. I used to drive Motul 710 2T, now I tried Motul 5100 10W40, 15W50, Motul Transoil Expert 10W40 (that was the best but not perfect) and now Motorex 4T 10W40 as well. It can be easily emptied, but it carries the engine with the clutch retracted and disassembles it into a gas splash.
I put the clutch on its atoms for the second time, which I see:
Springs length 40.85mm, factory value min. 42.5 -43mm
Push rod length 192mm, factory value 199mm (I think it is written in your book, because I think the clutch would not work at all with a 7mm diff)
Wear lamellas have a uniform thickness of 2.85 mm, factory value min. It would be 2.6mm, and the factory new one would be 2.7mm (I think it could be a spelling here too)
Metal slats uniformly 1.3mm all in all. With 240 and 320 papers, I completely sanded them all off, as if they were new and straight as well.
The clutch basket is not tucked in, but the needle roller underneath is minimally hanging, no sound yet.
I would be very grateful if someone could help solve the mystery, what could be the problem ??
Give the guys over at Customer Service / Sales a call. They can help you figure out exactly what you need
Thank u so much man! Now I can easily change my clutch kit.
Nice video
Hey MS,
We're here to help. Glad that you found the video helpful and now feel more confident in spinning your own wrenches. Not only does that save you money, but it also keeps you more connected to the condition of your machine. Thanks for watching our videos and the positive feedback. You're a subscriber to our channel, right? Ride safe. BB.com!
what kind of bike do you have? i had a ktm the basket came out before the inner clutch cover but on my honda you have to take the inner cover off, then you remove the lock from the big nut in the middle and take it off the hub and basket come out with some washers and shit, keep track of them, put it in how you took it off and look up the torque specs on the nut
What oil did you use to soak the fibers
Is there any adjustments you need to make when you adjust your clutch
What types of plates are their? Friciton plates then the metal ones?
Your adjustment is probably too tight, loosen the adjustment up by your clutch lever to where you have a quarter to half inch play in the lever itself. Having it too tight can leave the clutch slightly disengaged therefore not have the proper grip. You will burn the clutch up fast if you leave it that way.
How many pounds do you tighiten with the torch wrench on a crf150r?
What oil did you soak your fibers in... clutch oil???trans oil
How do I know that I have to rebuild the clutch? I am quite new to MX and I was recently rebuilding a 02 YZ 250 and I love the bike. But I got some clutch problems - means: Sometimes even if I use the clutch lever, it seems hard to shift. I think the clutch hasnt been rebuild for ages (one of the few parts I didnt rebuild).
And another question: If the basket has some grooves - can I simply take a smooth rasp and remove the sharp grooves, instead buying a new basket? Thank you!
Btw... thank you very much for all you videos - they helped me alot while rebuilding this old (but very nice) bike :)
Greetings!
did you find out?
ye I took a rasp and removed the grooves from the clutch basket. Runs fine now.
Hi Steve, I replaced my 2004 kx125 clutch exactly as you did. But my clutch has no tension. I mean the cable is ok. But the clutch lever on the other side of the bike has no tension. Do you have any idea about what is going on??? Tks
Just a question, I got a Modenas Kriss II and I found this video very useful. So I wanted to know is this video only for dirt bikes or can be useful on my bike too?
+γιωργος μαυροειδης
Hey there,
All versions of the Kriss motorcycles have a traditional 4-speed transmission. Your clutch internals should be very similar to what you see in this video. Any motorcycles that have a multi-plate clutch system will be right along the same lines too.
i haveb a yz 125 also i have clutch it doesnt slip but i tightend the cable all the way and still the sameidk and. when u pull it in the garage does it smell like semi brakes or burning oil?
Does it matter which order the finer player go back on some are big and rest are small
hey I have a 2004 cr250 2 stroke.I have no tension on the clutch lever.installed a new clutch cable still no tension.any ideas?
so the disks inbetween the pads do you have to replace those to
@markjacobs try using thinner oil this should solve the problem
2010 KX250f, clutch isnt engaging even when the cable is fully tightened. What problem is this? When its put into gear it still wants to crawl even when the clutch is fully IN. What do i do?
What oil should we soak them in? (just kidding).
I came to see if I could just lean my bike over and
not need to dump the oil since I just changed it.
My clutch plates are acting worn out
as they should be by now.
So no oil is added to the clutch assembly?
my yz125 has a problem, when i put it in first gear it starts to pull and iv tried to tighten the cable and iv tightend it all the way and it still does it should i do this?
this is a long, shot but please tell me you found a solution to that? my yz fucking pulls with clutch fully in, all tightened up etc. Installed a new cable, probably made it worse... did you manage to fix it?
I have a suzuki pe250 and my clutch wont disengage, i can shift but when i hold the clutch down and put it in first it suddenly stalls, ive tried tightening the cable i tried loosening it. nothing seems to work
im sure youve done found it out now, but you could go to ask.com or just look on a kawasaki website, or look in the owners manual.
in my clutch 2 discs were cracked or smashed into pieces! I'm just wondering why. Maybe you have some idea or you have seen it to. Other discs were perfect. I replaced all the discs. Now when i sometimes release the clutch to do a wheelie it sometimes makes some scratching noise. I put in the discs dry. Maybe thy are not oiled so well and still dry. Anyway i will keep riding and i hope they will be oiled.
Hi Farmboy,
There could be many factors as why the disk would crack, without seeing and knowing the history it would be virtually impossible to tell. It could be as simple as those were the weakest ones in the pack. As for the new disks, make sure you follow the install instruction to the letter, clutches can be very temperamental if not installed and broken in properly!
That was the problem of that noise. I didn't install them in correct order. 2 of the discs were different. One had to be at the begining and the other at the end. Everything is now fine
I just installed clutch plates and I put it in gear but let go of shift lever and goes into nuetual
do you have to line up the teeth of the fibre certain a way? or just go in wherever
9 years late but, no the fibers don’t matter
After i installed them my clutch doesnt wanna pull in its like free
Hey! I have a Yamaha TTR 125le and it won't shift. Do you have any idea what could be wrong with it? It just stays in neutral even when i can hear it shifting gears.
Hi steve,
i ride a rm 125 from 2010 and i have a clutch problem :0
when i want to start it feels like it have 2 starts like slowly start to ride it feels like the first pick up is earlier than the second one
the clutch plates are new !
i replace the oil enough !
i heard about the metal plates with the sharp size towards the bike but i don't know where the sharp size is pointing to ?
Does anyone know ??
Thanks.
try adjusting cables
@@LuBuckets wow thanks for a respons, now i already have an other bike but the problem was the basket was to damaged.
I noticed you didn't replace the basket, when you replace why not replsce it all?
So do I need to dump my transmission oil first or can I get away with just lending it over?
Depends on how old it is
Hay i have a 200 xr honda dirt bike and when i do a could start and i ride it it high revs when i git on it or give it gas so to speek so what do i do.
Everytime I try to remove the pressure plate bolts the whole basket rotates. my engine will not shift up or down so i cant change the gear if that would help. any tips on how to make sure the basket isnt rotating while lossening the bolts ?
+509 fmx
Hey 509,
So your transmission will not shift into gear? How about using a dowel to stop the rear tire from spinning? Keep us posted please.
Thanks.
BB.com
+BikeBandit the motor is currently out of the bike on my work bench. the bike sat for a while causing the plates to stick.so i opened the clutch cover and found the last clutch plate before the pressure plate has chipped. but when the motor was in the bike before removal and it was off i shifted into first gear and its stuck. the the foot shifter will not click up, down, or back into neutral. so i took the motor out and put it on my bench now i cant get the bolts that hold the pressure plate to loosen without all the gears rotating and moving the piston up and down.
Wish Steve just lived in my garage 😐
Good video helps a lot
Hey Sellz,We're glad that you found the video enjoyable and useful. Let us know if we can be of any other assistance.Thanks for the support and enjoy the ride.
it will leak like a shive. use good gasket maker. do it once.
My clutch won't engage and I took the cover off but not the fibers.
QUESTION!
I have a 2005 Honda 250 can it still be competitive against today's bikes? If so what mods can I make to help improve the performance?
+elijah feldman
Hey EF,
So really quick...CR or CRF(dirt) or CBR (street)? Keep us posted and we'll try to best answer your question. Thanks.
+BikeBandit Crf250r sorry*
+elijah feldman
Hey EF,
Absolutely you can be competitive on your '05 compared to a '16. The difference in horsepower and weight between the two bikes is minimal. The best component to improve performance on, is actually YOU as the rider. 95% of riders on 250F's can't actually use all of the power. Get yourself more comfortable at speed, and most importantly on the brakes. Put on a new set of tires, bleed your brakes, and adjust the suspension to your weight, and you'll be surprised at how fast a 250F can be. Anyone can go fast in a straight line. Practice keeping corner speeds up, and getting hard on the brakes, as that is where races are won. Thanks for watching our videos and the question. You're a subscriber to our channel, right? Ride safe. BB.com!
+BikeBandit wow! Thanks bike bandit I was beginning to lose faith in my ole beater. Thanks for the tips! And quick response. Like and shared 👌👌
+elijah feldman
Hey EF,
When it comes to your "beater", maybe it just needs a freshening up? How many hours on your top end? Although now we're starting to talk some serious money, if it doesn't leak or consume oil, try to do the more inexpensive mods first. Sometimes we forget that we as the rider is the most crucial component in the equation. Remember that it's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog. Thanks for the like and the share, and we assume that you're subscribed too.
OK, now go out there and have fun on your motorcycle. Ride safe. BB.com!
how can i find out how much i need to torque the screws for my kx250 (two stroke)
Are the fibres installed in any specific order ?
Each bike has a specific order. Check your service manual
@@bikebandit How would i find manual for a rmz 250 if i bought it used? No dealers around me
We have lots of parts break down on our website. You can try that or just Google it
Didnt change or inspect the cover gasket?
he used a torque wrench anyway
Hes talking about a fucking gasket not tightening bolts wtf 😂
But he didn’t take the springs off in a cross pattern...
I'm planning on getting barnett clutch plates for my bike just had it rebuilt, and I had a new barnett clutch basket installed while it wad being rebuilt, I started it and noticed a little knocking what could it be? Just had rebuilt
Jonathan Nockideneh Could be a couple of things, but either way, don't start it again until you take the cover off and see if you can figure out without taking the plates out of the basket, etc.Might be something totally obvious. If you had a mechanic do the work, take it back.
Okay I was told it's a difference with the material using a billet steel instead of aluminum but I'll look into it
Jonathan Nockideneh Clutch baskets don't usually knock. Clutch noise usually chatters when new plates are used in old baskets, and the teeth/fingers have grooves that hinder the smooth movement of the new plates. Depending on the basket and/or clutch kit that you put in, some them advise against using a full synthetic oil. Keep us posted though for sure please.
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Why do clutch parts have to be so expensive :( my basket is worn,my clutch plates are worn ,so are my springs. only my iner hub is OK :( :( and i'm 16 and have to buy all this my self. lol.
What psycho path does sharp side up lol
he fails to mentions "many" inspection and procedural items during his R&R process. read the manual for your bike - don't listen to what this guys says. he's leaving most of the important information our of his discussin.