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You should try xeno again man... it doesn't auto attack with the arts... I think unless you have the expansion and have it turned on. Its honestly got a really complex battle system... if you delved into it a little more I think you would appreciate it. I honestly didnt buy it at first because of you but once I realized how complex the battle system was; I pulled the trigger.
If you liked Ys VIII more than Xenoblade 2 that's great man. It's all your opinion bro. No need to apologize. I loved Xenoblade but I can understand your complaints. Not everyone will always agree. Thanks for the great review. Can't wait to pick it up.
nowonmetube its minority that complain about xc2 who couldnt understand jrpg and how game let u digest combat system one at a time but yeah, its not for everyone.
Have you played ys8 yet?? I used to LOVE xenoblade2 when it can out and always thought it was something special....then I played ys8! THIS REVIEW IS SPOT ON, ys8 is everything I wished xenoblade was.... The fast paced group fighting and insane power up combos are just amazing in ys8, never gets old... Ys8 is on par with botw i dare would say, that's how good it is... can't believe its not more popular, should be on everyone's switch must have list, top 5 or top 10 switch game for sure.... Wish xenoblade 2 had ys8 style game play, or wish ys8 had xenoblades graphics and layout... NOW THAT WOULD BE AMAZING!!!
Nick Hall I have played and finished ys8 as story mode. I still think it’s subjective opinion of what game u like and some fit right into ur turf while other don’t. “ not to mention, they are completely different genres “..
Falcom puts a huge effort in localization of it's games than Squareenix ever would with lesser titles ... Nihon Falcom has great games and musical talents, they are sadly under the radar half the time.
I feel like you need to finish Xenoblade Chronicles 2, because similar to yourself I didn't really feel a connection to most the characters, but throughout the later chapters, they truly start to develope and you learn so much about them. The entire story is just a huge character developement arc of them opening up more and more to eachother and they just exponentially open up more. They are incredibly well thought out, and well presented. I feel like you can't really talk about the characters in XC2 if you haven't played it through. From what I understood from your "Why i wont review XC2" video, you didnt even pass the 3rd chapter. Yes Ys VIII is a great game with great characters, but XC2 has far better characters and a better developement arc. Just please, before you talk about a game as if you know all about it, at least complete the game.
AeonAir Not everyone has the patience for it,I'd rather play Dragon Quest and YS,Xenoblade Chronicles 2 bored me,even after getting mythra unlocked I was still bored,not enough action or interesting environments for me,rather play Dark Souls Remastered
Xenoblade is so fucking long dude. And honestly if a game isn't enjoyable for the first 20 hours then he shouldn't have to complete it to be able to compare it to other games.
I completely agree. Xenoblade Chronicles 2 has one of the best casts out of any game I've played as of late. They have great chemistry and blend together so well. I can sort of understand how it can be bland and hard to develop an attachment to the characters toward the beginning of the game but as you progress I find it hard to believe that someone couldn't like them. The combat argument is one that is hard to call a winning side for because of how different it is compared to almost any other RPG so I won't even attempt to change anyone's mind with that. But one thing I will never understand is how people dislike the voice acting. I can maybe understand Rex but all of the other voice actors fit the characters so well and portray them in such a way that you can't help but care for them. But hey, that's just my opinion on the game. I hope I at least made one person think twice about it.
exactly, Wood didn't like the game the first 20-ish hours he played it so no sense forcing yourself to play a game you didn't like from the start. none of that "it gets better" crap, a game should be better from the start for said player. i personally loved the start of it XB2 but like any form of entertainment its not for everyone.
I got to chapter 6 or 7 before losing interest. Part of that was Ursulas quest, part of it is the rng behind blades, the rest is an inferior combat system to the first 2 games, open world areas that aren't fun to explore and the horrible accents.
I second this statement, we have plenty of turn based RPG's, need to shake it up and add some more hack n slash. Gotta give it to Xenoblade for such unique combat though.
@@gabet5247 Ever played Grandia on the PSX? I highly recommand it, really enjoyed it and it's combat system. Sadly like Suikoden it kinda disappeared with no new entry on the horizon :(
I just finished Ys Vlll and it was a great JRPG! It's one of my new favorites now. I will agree that the graphics weren't the best, and look dated, but holy crap the gameplay is solid the entire game. A LOT was done right. Fast travel from the get go, fast combat, loads of item drops, exploration, side quests that are more than just fetch quests, different modes within the game that are optional. Overall it's a great game and I cant wait to go back and play the earlier games. I have not Played Xenoblade Chronicles 2 yet, wasnt going to because I couldn't stand Xenoblade Chronicles X gameplay (first Xenoblade game I played) but I may check out 2 now.
I really love the Ys series with a passion. I look forward to getting this when I finally buy a switch but I just wish there were more areas and not only the island, unless I'm missing something and it's varied in environmental design? But so far the combat of Ys is what has me enthralled. Great review!
Ys VIII has a touching and amazing story. After 3 chapters, I found myself couldn't stop playing the game. Some moments in the game were so emotional that I almost cried.
Damn me too mate. It did take a while to get the ball rolling (I mean Chapter 2 was the longest and most boring chapter) but after that, I couldn't put it down either. The lore in this series is just fascinating. I love the fact that the series is continuous too. (I'm kinda sick of Final Fantasy and Tales always taking place in new worlds). But that story, my god. Dana's story is just awesome from beginning to end.
I got a bit bored of it in chapter 4. I really don't understand people saying Ys8 is amazing. Perfectly adequate is what I'd say. Don't get me wrong it wasn't bad, it just wasn't anything special. Maybe if one hadn't played many RPG's and were more easily impressed/pleased I could see it being lauded as amazing. >__>
@@planescaped I have played FF VII, FF X, FF XII, tales series, Persona series, dragon quest series, xenoblade series, octopath traveler, nier automata...Every game has its own unique beauty ^^
the voice acting grows on you but the gameplay is something that woods just hasnt experience since the game didnt hold his time enough to actually get to the real fighting
Well I am now 115h into the game and I still have a problem with the battle system. not as much as in the beginning but still way to slow. Battles take forever. The rest is actually kind of okayish. what really hooked me was the story
Nice review :) Cannot wait to get my head into this game. Looks great and really fun! Still think you should give Xenoblade 2 another go at some point in the future and get further along. It really is a gem that cannot be missed, but a flaw with Xenoblade 2 is that there is so many layers to the combat system that it takes a little bit to introduce all the levels and get you aquainted. Of course, I wouldnt pick it back up until there is a lull in Switch releases or something, it is a long game... minimum 80hrs i would say... If you have not played Xenoblade 1 though. BAD CHOICE. Play it!!! Xenoblade 1 is a godamn masterpiece.
Xenoblade is certainly a story based game the combat kinda just adds content, I love both xenoblade 1 and 2 and as a diehard fan I would say the combat is cool but could use improvement
Things I have experienced about XC2 Story - It's fantastic Characters - Amazing Voice actor - Good Combat - Chapter 1-2 it's okay, after chapter 3 perfect Soundtrack - Fantastic This is the first game I have played in the XC serie and I could't say anything negative about it. So far personaly got a little bit over 250 hours and have yet to get done with Postgame/NG+
If you loved Ys 8, you'll probably also love Falcom's other hit series: Trails. Trails contains the same large cast, lovable characters, and optimistic tone of the Ys series but on the scale of a 60 hour, turn-based JRPG. With a huge focus on worldbuilding, Trails has a significantly slower pace than Ys. But that's all in service of building a large chain of dominoes--and when they start falling, you can only sitback and watch as the dominoes fall. Until the last one sets off fireworks! I would highly recommend starting with Trails of Cold Steel on PC as the most accessible entry point for the series.
Yeah I love the trails series I hope cold steel comes to switch as it's the only console I own. Also my laptop can't even run some roblox games so I doubt it'd be able to run TOCS. Either that or trails in the sky trilogy.
U cant say anything about xenoblade characters until u unlock ZEKE VON GENBU, BRINGER OF CHAOS, MOSTLY KNOWN AS ZEKE, AND OFTEN ADRESSED AS THE ZEKENAAAATOOOOOR(and best girl... I mean mòrag)
For me the game become fun when I unlocked Sheba early chapter 3. Nia goes from being a boring healer to an OP attacker! and one of the most fun characters to use.
I hear you about XC2 but I wouldn't want the battle system in XC2 to be similar to the one in Ys. I want different experiences and the battle system in Ys is nice but quite classic in the action RPG genre. I never played a XC game before i experienced XC2 and yea the learning curve was hard but once it clics with you, this is an amazing feeling to achieve the best combos and millions of damage. Ys on the other hand seems quite easy from what I heard and I am not convinced by the character design, it feels a bit dated but I am still happy to start Ys 8 and play it for hte first time on the go on Nintendo Switch. I don't understand you don't notice the problem with Ys on handle mode yet. I mean the game looks sharp during cut scenes but during gameplay, the resolution is constantly varying to the point where it is really weird. At least XC2 had a pretty stable resolution in handled mode. Yes, it was low but it was more stable. Ys8 is cool to play on the go but wtf is this unstable resolution ? I can definitely notice the dynamic resolution variations here. And it is the first time I notice this on a Switch game.
Panzer Dragoon Worldパンツァードラグーンワールド "classic in the Action RPG genre"? What are you talking about? Which other RPG games do have this kind of battle system? I literally know 0.
nowonmetube I am ok to discuss with people but not with a troll right ? There are tones of games with this style of battle system. It’s a beat them all at the core like Nier Automata essentially. Except it’s even simpler, no hard combos. A few spells that are easier to use than combos in Nier. That’s cool, I like a simple battle system as well but let’s face it. It’s not reinventing the wheel. The Ys8 battle system is déjà vu but I’m cool with that. Just don’t pretend it’s something “new”.
nowonmetube that's why he said "action RPG." Completely different than classic FF and the like if that's what you were thinking. Kingdom Hearts, for one, is a beat-em-up action RPG. Same with The Witcher and Elder Scrolls series.
Mike who knows. Having put more than 100 hours in XC2, I couldn’t imagine a different combat system for the game. It just wouldn’t be XC2. That tells you how much the battle system defines XC2.
Bought the game last night after watching this video and I'm having a blast! Thanks Wood! I've been overlooking the title for ages! Also gives me star ocean and monster hunter vibes.
Xenoblade Chronicles 2 is a game you need to put in at least 50 before you can review it properly. I personally dropped the game at first for a couple week, but when I returned and put in the needed hours, it became my favorite game on the switch. By the way you talk about the game I suggest you play the Golden Country when it's released, it seems more like what you want.
I've never understood that point, if you to get to the good part of the game play X amount of hours! If I don't like a game why am I going to spend so much time grueling through an experience I don't enjoy? I'd much rather spend that time looking for a game I enjoy off the bat.
Totally agree with your opinion of Xenoblade Chronicles 2. I really wanted to like it, but the combat and overall pace of the game was just too slow for me.
I can see that you dropped xc 2 at the start of the game. You should play it more, because more levels of tactic will be added to the combat system. And it all adds up to a pretty complex battle system.
I'm on chapter 5 of xenoblade and still don't know how to do certain stuff. Like how exactly to setup your party for cool blade combos and still haven't figured out how to break , topple, (lift?) And smash lol. But I'm still loving the game.
Each weapon type has certain Arts. Just get Blades with Break, Launch, and Smash, and you're set. Rex natively has Topple, and a certain story Blade for Rex already gives him Smash, and if you give him an axe Blade, he'll have Launch. Nia has Break with the Rings. Remember, Break → Topple → Launch → Smash
You'll get there :) you still learn battle mechanics a long time into the game. Combos work like this, you do a level one fire attack, then another once its charged up to level 2 and then again for another at level 3. If you've followed the correct element path you'll do a special combo and it can either seal monsters moves and such depending on the path. This puts elemental orbs around the montser. Finish on a fire attack? A fire orb will appear and you will deal less fire damage to that monster. So you can put many orbs on one mon depending which is when the chain attack comes into play. Pressing + with 3 bars filled in the upper left starts it. If you use an opposing elemental attack on the orb itll break dealing massive damage to the montser and i believe giving you another full turn in the chain.
Break topple lift and smash are straightforward. Break moves inflict break, then you use a move that can do topple like rexs healing move when you get further into the game. Another character or blade uses lift and then another or the same can use smash. The ai will recognise when a mon has these ailments and will use the appropriate move. Though sometimes its delayed.
I just bought the Adventure Edition!! And I LOVE it! It's such an excellent game also... Wood is the best... love your content your one of the reasons I made my own channel been here since 60,000 and stay here till it's over, 😂 Also I love Xenoblade 2 it has one of my favorite music in videogames ever! But that's ok you didn't like it!!! People have their opinions, and also it actually does get better over time but some people like it and some don't
To me so far this game looks fun but I don't see how it is better than Xenoblade Chronicles 2. I honestly really disagree about the Characters in Xenoblade 2 because I couldn't stop playing it.
If you haven’t played through Xenoblade 2, then it’s probably a bad idea to use it as a reference. Like like citing an article but you only read the headline.
@@FullMetalCowMoo Not saying it's a good thing, but yes 15, hours doesn't even get the fully unlocked combat systems. So yeah until you beat chapter 4, you're pretty much in Act 1 of the game.
@@Jordan-subj Wasn't this one of the gripes that made FFXIII a "horrible" game to most people. Because I personally liked it alot, but everyone always said, blah, all corridors and the battle system doesn't even fully unlock until your like 16 hours in. So I came to the conclusion that if someone plays a game 15 hours and they conclude that it's bad while not having the full experience, that's a fine opinion. They didn't enjoy 15 hours enough to continue. That's more than half a day. You can definitely have a perfectly formed opinion in that time.
I did the same exact thing as you, I dropped Xenoblade 2 around chapter 3 of the uraya part. I had the same problems you did. However I decided to pick the game up a few months later and finish it. It was an amazing decision, I fell in love with the characters the ending made me think to myself "What an amazing game, what a game." I highly recommend that you actually finish the game before you trash talk it anymore. I was in your shoes a few months ago. Xenoblade chronicles 2 made me cry. Video games don't often make me cry.
I don't think I've gotten past chapter 3, and even I know that it evolves lmao. I only stopped because I was afraid of the scope and magnitude of the game.
Xenoblade's voice acting isn't that bad. Rex is the only one that needs improvement. Characters like Zeke, Morag, Brighid, Dromarch, Wulfric, Jin, and Malos have amazing voices.
I agree with you here. Xenoblade 2 Combat felt so lifeless. Didn't help That the characters are straight up anime tropes which I can usually tolerate but they were not executed well at all. YS VIII was for me, one of the better games of 2017. Up there with Nier Automata, Persona 5, Tales of Berseria and Gravity Rush 2 as the best jrpg's of 2017.
Just finished the game. The ending really hit me like a truck, really did not expected that. It's feel like you lost something important to you, but you don't realize it until you actually lost it. There's a lot of greater game, even some that I call masterpiece, but did not have this kind of effects when I finished it.
As someone who really enjoys XC2 & YS 8 I definitely see some of your points, they both scratch a different itch while still being tangentially similar. I will point out that every aspect of Eternian architecture *screamed* Ivalice from FF12 to me though, the capitol ruins looked just like the Nabudis ruins (minus the undead hoard and those *fucking reapers* ), the stone work really looks a lot like Rabanastre. I can't be the only one who sees it! There's even a Wood spirit that insists other spirits (namely the shopkeeper) remain in the forest & the shopkeeper almost directly quotes Fran from FF12 in response! Where's that Always Sunny meme with the cork-board?? I think besides the nearly ps2 level graphics, it took my eyes a couple hours to stop screaming about the grass textures, my only big complaint is that we don't get Dana's other forms in the present.
i just started playing ys 8, and just the other ys games i've tried, i just can't really get into it. the weird thing is i played a game called nayuta on psp emulator, which is made by the same developers as ys and very similar, and it's one of my favorite games ever. somehow the combat in nayuta felt more fun, and for whatever reason in ys i can never get fully comfortable with the controls. i had to swap the l1 and r1 buttons just to make them somewhat comfortable to use. i'm gonna stick with it, but i'm like 20+ hours in so i'm not expecting it to grow on me too much. i love the trails series, some of my favorite games of all time, but ys just doesn't do it for me for some reason.
I loved XC, XCX, and XC2 (and Torna). I just started YS8, and it feels a bit like how XCX felt after XC. Similar but different. I'm still at the exploration stage, and it feels like XCX. I agree YS8 seems to have great characters.
Im new to the Y's games and i've been playing Oath of Felghana on pc and picked up Origins. So far these are my favourite rpg's as they have smooth, fast and fluid combat. The stories and characters are really well done and the game moves on quickly and doesn't drag on. I will definately be picking up Y's VIII.
I still come back to this video every now and then. I love both games as both fulfill my desire to explore a grand world bit in different ways. I think what this video did, at least for me, was bring attention to a slightly lesser known game by comparing it to Xenoblade Chronicles 2. To compare Ys 8 to such a big name title that has only become more beloved with time was a genius way of selling the quality of this one, intentional or not. I'm sure Falcom was flattered to hear you compare their game to Nintendo's despite how much bigger that company is. What a pleasant video.
You just convinced me to pick up YS VIII, good review. Also I played like 200 hours of XC2 and I felt burnt out do to overgrinding small aspects of the game just so I could try and unlock story for my blades and then to find out they weren't that interesting after all. The random rolls of unlocking blades really made me feel like powering them up as much as possible which always became a detriment to the story. So in the end I never really cared too much about the characters. I think that was its biggest weakness for me.
Okay one big issue I have with what you are saying....Xenoblade Chronicles 2 true game doesn't really start until you're about 60 hours in. They introduce new systems, teach you how to better play, tons more character development. I think the most underrated aspect of XC2 is the fact the game makes you feel how you should feel. You have no clue what's coming next, or why certain things are happening...that's a key part of the story. XC2 character development throughout the game and story line (while confusing at times) was very satisfying. Ys 8 might be amazing and ima try it out but I don't like how you are shading XC2 when you haven't played enough of the game yet.....beat the game at 120 hrs in. And all 120 was necessary.
For the graphics, remember that this game was originally made for the PlayStation Vita. I do wish that they ported the extra content back to the Vita version though, since it could definitely handle it. (Ditto for Tokyo Xanadu and Dead or Alive 5+.)
For me xenoblade chronicles 2 is the best rpg i have played since dark chronicle .I love everything in this game the characters(tora is my favorite) ,the enviroments ,the story,the side quests ,gameplay. I didn't played the previous one tho.
I love this video. It makes me so happy that I found someone that literally put into words how I feel about the game and how it compares to how I felt about xenoblade. I honestly didn’t finish xenoblade because I got bored of the mechanics and i became discouraged because the idea of the world and the creatures and story were amazing and yet the fighting style was repetitive. Picking up this game I loved it instantly, it was the xenoblade I really wanted and I have to say it’s a definite favorite of mine now. The characters are definitely much more involved and the story tears at your feels, amazing review 👏🏼 I’m subscribing
Well can you please tell me how to beat malos and his buddy in the collesium level please? Because I stopped playing the game just because of how unbalanced and unfair that part was.
Wow the comments about Xenoblade 2...in the comments section. The comparison is perfectly fine. He didn't like XB2 and the excuse of "it gets better 10+ hours in" isn't a good one. To me and probably him that just means play a game you'll actually enjoy in that time instead of wasting it in a game you'll hate. He didn't like the combat in XB2, he liked it in Ys8, we get why he didn't like one vs the other. Again, it makes sense. Yes, JRPGs take a while to get going sometimes, but TEN or 20 hours before it MIGHT get good? That's 1-4 games you might actually like. I can't think of a JRPG that took that amount of time to get going. FFVII/Tactics, Tales of Xillia & Berseria, Breath of Fire 3 and 4. I agree with him, I found Xenoblade's combat incredibly dull and some of the story moments in the very early game were VERY cringy. The part with his Dragon friend- you know the one. First impressions are important and that really didn't do it any favors for me. "But if you play for another 10 hours it gets really good" Again, in that time, I can beat a lot of more fun switch games in the time that takes. Ys 8, ship was dull and it crashes then you're greeted with one of the BEST songs in any RPG, Sunshine Coastline and you're already on an adventure, exploring, cutting up monsters. Not even a full party and it's fun. Xenoblade? Oh my goodness the combat was so slow and dull. Also, what other JRPG is he going to compare it too? Switch doesn't have a lot right now, compare it to a PS4 game? Well I'm sure everyone would be happy with that. Comparing a game that the Switch might not ever get a port of or might not be able to handle. That'd have a real nice reaction from the fans.
Yeah, no, Xenoblade 2 has much more going for it than I think you allowed yourself to experience. The story really picks up and the characters are very well developed by the end of the game. I doubt you will return to it, as you do seem to have your mind set but if you ever do, know that there is a brilliant game waiting for you.
I don't usually subscribe to channels because I don't need the constant pings from TH-cam, but you helped me make up my mind about buying Ys and you told me we'd be best friends! I could really use a friend, so... there you go, one more sub (and like, and comment, the works)!
You know, I'm actually with you. I played through xenoblade chronicles and loved it. I played through chronicles x and loved it, as weird as that game was. But chronicles 2? I actually felt it was a step down in a lot of ways. I get where you're coming from on ys 8, and I appreciate it.
XC2 is AMAZING, I dont think you gave it enough time. It's a slow burn with character development through the first half of the game but REALLY sucks you in for the later half of the game. It's easily the best game on Switch IMO.
I don't know why you bother mentioning XB2 when you expressed you haven't even completed enough of it to form a full educated opinion on the game. It's fine to not like, just don't bother using it a comparing point for the basis of another game since you only know so little about it.
Because there's not a lot of other RPGs on Switch and if you start comparing games on other consoles then you get angry fans of the console who'll not be happy you're comparing a game because the switch can't handle it/the switch doesn't have it/etc.
Not only are Ys and XB2 two completely different types of RPGs, the problem still lies that he doesn't know much about Xenoblade, only doubling down on why he has no business comparing them. All he had to do was judge this game on its own merits, not even mention Xeno, and he would be fine.
I played this game and absolutely loved it! It was lots of fun with lots of plot twists and you definitely bond with the characters and get invested in their stories. Highly recommend and can’t wait for ys 9: monstrum nox!😄
I will admit, I wasn't crazy about most of the English voices at all. When I heard Adol, I instantly wished he spoke WAY more in Ys VIII, I absolutely love Bryce Papenbrook, he is my favorite voice actor of all time. So I was happy he voiced Adol in this game.
I’ve put 130 hours in Xenoblade 2 and can confirm its one of the best RPGs I’ve ever played. Been playing Ys 8 and it’s very comparable to Xenoblade. Enjoying it so far!
It's called Stockholm Syndrome. Xenoblade Chronicles 2 is an objectively awful game, and there are many reviews that provide specific bullet points as to why.
I'm about 25 hours into Ys VIII and I absolutely love it. I put 90 hours into Xenoblade Chronicles 2 and then gave up. I straight up sold the game. It was such a frustrating, monotonous, overly complicated game. The best things about XBC2 were the soundtrack (which is my favorite soundtrack of 2018), and the environments/cities. Ys VIII is so much more fun to play and does everything the way I was hoping XBC2 would. Also, you should have noted that Ys VIII actually came out in July of 2016 on VITA, so it actually precedes XBC2 by a couple of years. That makes it even more frustrating. You can tell that XB2 was inspired by Ys VIII (there are so many similarities in world design, item acquisition, and even character models), but yet still managed to make it a less fun game to play. I'm really glad that so many people enjoyed XBC2, but I'm with you on this one. Ys VIII is a far, far better experience.
I can't agree because Ys story is not as good as Xenoblade 2 that is something special even when compared to Xenoblade 1 that was already a masterpiece. But the gameplay of Ys is really cool, the combat is just not something people complain because it is really basic, what is cool about it is the progression through the island
I have just started playing this on the PS4 instead of my Switch and I am really impressed so far. The story is interesting and I've just started to get to know some of the characters but it's got a long way to go to beat XC2, the connection to those characters by the end of the game was one like no other. You definitley should have played more of XC2 but I can understand why you prefer YS VIII, cant wait to play more!
Dana and Dogi, you spelled the names right. The PC Version of the game has the Japanese Audio for you to use, and if I have the chance of getting the game with the original voice acting, I usually use that, even if I lose a little of side dialog. And Dana and Dogi is just the way you spelled don't worry. xD At least in Japanese. Also, the true ending is way more enjoyable with the effects on the voices in Japanese, that somehow was lost on the english dub. And about the graphics issues, those doesn't exist on the PC or PS4 version, I mean, never a far away texture was weird or looked like a giant pixel like the video was shown here, so yeah. And the PC ver doesn't even require such a big ammount of things to play, so it's worth a shot if you guys want to test it.
Man I feel ya about Xenoblade 2s combat. 230 hours in my game and while i love the game, combat improved VERY minimally over the course of those hours.
Hoo boy... I really disagree with you RE XC2, the voice acting was not bad, it was actually for the most part pretty good for an rpg, you're clearly just not used to welsh accents! As for you not getting attached to the characters, I'm guessing you didn't bother playing further than the first few hours. There is a shitton of character growth in that game and there were very few characters I didn't get attached to or empathise with. XC2 was game of the year for 2017 for me. It's a goddamn masterpiece. Give it another chance and play more than 6 hours of it this time!
Wild Portrait Artist As someone currently at Chapter 8, I can really understand if he wasn't all that pulled in by the characters or story. They're not that great.
I can't wait to play this game. I've always liked at the look of the YS series but I've never been sure about jumping, but I think this unit I'm going for it, thanks to your review. Shane about its look in the dock but I'd rather be able to play off the TV than have the best graphics. Could you do a Shining Resonance Refrain review, been tempted by the demo of that game.
In my case I enjoyed Ys VIII from start but in the case of XC2 my hype went downhill after chapter 5, the ending was a bit disappointing mainly because Pyra/Mythra sacrifice didn't mean anything
@@princefishyfingers7498I think everyone who beat both ends like that, because it is hard going until the end of Xenoblade 2 and not get at least emotional about it, its story hits hard, so hard that I prefer it over Botw even though the gameplay in Botw is far superior
Personally. I don't understand anyone who willingly searches for anything, expecting not a single thing for it to be spoiled?? Even seeing what game mechanics a game uses are spoilers in my eyes.
Same thing goes for a sports game. Stay off the internet until you watch it. If you can't decide you want a game, then play a friend's copy, or look up gameplay and watch five minutes. If you watch a review, you're going to get story basis, mechanics, and climax. It's a review. Like????? Don't blame him because you didn't want to spend money right away.
Ys VIII is definitely my favourite RPG that i have ever played and probably, for a long time, the only game that makes me take it seriously. I refused to play on and finish the game after chapter 5 because of the ending to the game. I loved all the characters and how they support and contradict each other and it really stings when you know that they can't be with one another at the very end (Probably just that I can't accept the fate of a 'certain character'). When I play most of the other generic RPGs, I know it will either end in a happy or sad ending so I just play on but with Ys, all 3 endings seemed bitter-sweet, which is unique to see in fantasy games, and it truly pains me to know that how 'character' is with you but not with you at the same time. It's like how you watched this great TV show or anime and you just can't wait to know the ending but after searching it on google, you refuse to watch the remaining episodes just so you would never know how the characters even arrived at the point and keeping that inner fantasy you had of the game alive. I do really hope there will be a sequel where all of the crew members including 'said character' will be reunited and having another epic adventure or a remake featuring the same crew but with an alternate story and ending. It would probably destroy the setting from the original game but lets be honest, who did not want all the characters to be together. Curious to know how others took the game, have a nice day :)
Good. I have Ys VIII on Vita and love it. Definitely getting it on Switch once I get a Switch. I still wish Dogi (Dough-ghee in pronunciation: the O is an elongated vowel and the I is like how you pronounce lean) was playable, because his design is SO much better than previous games.
One of the major issues with Xenoblade 2 was that the first several hours were kind of a slog. Which makes no sense because the first game hooked you in the very first segment. You immediately understood the relationships between the characters, had an idea of the stakes and the bad guys (though those changed with the story twists) and understood Skulk's motivation for leaving home on his quest. Xenoblade 2 presented us with this quest to bring a character we know nothing about to this place we know nothing about against stakes we know nothing about. It gets better, but that beginning is a massive flaw. On to Ys VIII. The developer, Falcom, is one of the finest jrpg studios around. Their games don't have the highest budgets, so their games are always lacking in the visual department, but they excel in story, characters and gameplay. I'd put Ys VIII up there as one of the best action jrpgs of modern generations just like the 2 Legend of Heroes: Trails of Cold Steel games are some of the best turn based jrpgs. Bigger companies like Square Enix might have beautiful visuals, but they don't have nearly the passion and heart Falcom puts into their games.
THANK YOU! I didnt know this was a genre. I liked XB2, but the combat was too slow for me. This looks exactly what I wanted. I been looking for a week straight for a switch game and I never saw this one.
Lars Kouijzer and it's the best jrpg right now for me 😂😂😂 enjoy it and please give love to Floren, is full of surprises 💜(? And if you like anime play the game in Japanese, it's (for me) a better experience 😅
Inchido Oh it most certainly does have flaws. All the areas on Mechonis were a chore to get through, I stopped playing for months because it was so tedious
Inchido not because it was hard, because there were soooo many enemies that were impossible to avoid, and my number one issue: visions. They're a really cool concept but when you're fighting 10 enemies at once and there are visions constantly, it makes battles pause over and over again all the while dropping the frame rate and making battles ridiculously slow and annoying. Then I'm finally gonna win and I get knocked off the edge -_- I still love the game though, just not the Mechonis areas...
I really love YS VIII, I played this game on my Low Specs Laptop... Though there are so many people got so many bugs and problems, I never got crashed when playing this game until the end... I definitely recommend this game... :D
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You should try xeno again man... it doesn't auto attack with the arts... I think unless you have the expansion and have it turned on. Its honestly got a really complex battle system... if you delved into it a little more I think you would appreciate it. I honestly didnt buy it at first because of you but once I realized how complex the battle system was; I pulled the trigger.
BeatEmUps great vid, was wondering if there is any chance for a review of shining resonance refrain for switch?
I don’t know if you realized it yet, but this huge island full of deadly creatures is basically Australia
Yeah pretty much lol. I actually just noticed that now I've played this game so many times too.
If you liked Ys VIII more than Xenoblade 2 that's great man. It's all your opinion bro. No need to apologize. I loved Xenoblade but I can understand your complaints. Not everyone will always agree.
Thanks for the great review. Can't wait to pick it up.
Executer 66 I hear a lot of people complaining about Xenoblade 2. But also a lot praising Ys VIII.
nowonmetube its minority that complain about xc2 who couldnt understand jrpg and how game let u digest combat system one at a time but yeah, its not for everyone.
Have you played ys8 yet?? I used to LOVE xenoblade2 when it can out and always thought it was something special....then I played ys8! THIS REVIEW IS SPOT ON, ys8 is everything I wished xenoblade was.... The fast paced group fighting and insane power up combos are just amazing in ys8, never gets old... Ys8 is on par with botw i dare would say, that's how good it is... can't believe its not more popular, should be on everyone's switch must have list, top 5 or top 10 switch game for sure.... Wish xenoblade 2 had ys8 style game play, or wish ys8 had xenoblades graphics and layout... NOW THAT WOULD BE AMAZING!!!
Nick Hall I have played and finished ys8 as story mode. I still think it’s subjective opinion of what game u like and some fit right into ur turf while other don’t. “ not to mention, they are completely different genres “..
Falcom puts a huge effort in localization of it's games than Squareenix ever would with lesser titles ...
Nihon Falcom has great games and musical talents, they are sadly under the radar half the time.
Oh good, it wasn't just me with the Dogi pronunciation.
Spawn Wave no. Your pronunciations are terrible in general though. No offense.
Clayton Young
Don't blame people's pronunciation when it's just your ears.
Lol I never expected finding another one of my subscriptions on another channel
The g has a silent hee sound, Dohi
haha yeah in english grammar-phonation doesnt make as much sense..
I feel like you need to finish Xenoblade Chronicles 2, because similar to yourself I didn't really feel a connection to most the characters, but throughout the later chapters, they truly start to develope and you learn so much about them. The entire story is just a huge character developement arc of them opening up more and more to eachother and they just exponentially open up more. They are incredibly well thought out, and well presented.
I feel like you can't really talk about the characters in XC2 if you haven't played it through. From what I understood from your "Why i wont review XC2" video, you didnt even pass the 3rd chapter. Yes Ys VIII is a great game with great characters, but XC2 has far better characters and a better developement arc.
Just please, before you talk about a game as if you know all about it, at least complete the game.
AeonAir Not everyone has the patience for it,I'd rather play Dragon Quest and YS,Xenoblade Chronicles 2 bored me,even after getting mythra unlocked I was still bored,not enough action or interesting environments for me,rather play Dark Souls Remastered
Xenoblade is so fucking long dude. And honestly if a game isn't enjoyable for the first 20 hours then he shouldn't have to complete it to be able to compare it to other games.
I completely agree. Xenoblade Chronicles 2 has one of the best casts out of any game I've played as of late. They have great chemistry and blend together so well. I can sort of understand how it can be bland and hard to develop an attachment to the characters toward the beginning of the game but as you progress I find it hard to believe that someone couldn't like them. The combat argument is one that is hard to call a winning side for because of how different it is compared to almost any other RPG so I won't even attempt to change anyone's mind with that. But one thing I will never understand is how people dislike the voice acting. I can maybe understand Rex but all of the other voice actors fit the characters so well and portray them in such a way that you can't help but care for them. But hey, that's just my opinion on the game. I hope I at least made one person think twice about it.
exactly, Wood didn't like the game the first 20-ish hours he played it so no sense forcing yourself to play a game you didn't like from the start. none of that "it gets better" crap, a game should be better from the start for said player.
i personally loved the start of it XB2 but like any form of entertainment its not for everyone.
I got to chapter 6 or 7 before losing interest. Part of that was Ursulas quest, part of it is the rng behind blades, the rest is an inferior combat system to the first 2 games, open world areas that aren't fun to explore and the horrible accents.
I totally agree ....we need more Y's style games ...IMHO this is how RPG games should work.
Imho?
@@CanalDojogames imho = in my humble opinion
I second this statement, we have plenty of turn based RPG's, need to shake it up and add some more hack n slash. Gotta give it to Xenoblade for such unique combat though.
Agreed!
@@gabet5247 Ever played Grandia on the PSX? I highly recommand it, really enjoyed it and it's combat system.
Sadly like Suikoden it kinda disappeared with no new entry on the horizon :(
I just finished Ys Vlll and it was a great JRPG! It's one of my new favorites now. I will agree that the graphics weren't the best, and look dated, but holy crap the gameplay is solid the entire game. A LOT was done right. Fast travel from the get go, fast combat, loads of item drops, exploration, side quests that are more than just fetch quests, different modes within the game that are optional. Overall it's a great game and I cant wait to go back and play the earlier games.
I have not Played Xenoblade Chronicles 2 yet, wasnt going to because I couldn't stand Xenoblade Chronicles X gameplay (first Xenoblade game I played) but I may check out 2 now.
I really love the Ys series with a passion. I look forward to getting this when I finally buy a switch but I just wish there were more areas and not only the island, unless I'm missing something and it's varied in environmental design? But so far the combat of Ys is what has me enthralled. Great review!
Ys VIII has a touching and amazing story. After 3 chapters, I found myself couldn't stop playing the game. Some moments in the game were so emotional that I almost cried.
Damn me too mate. It did take a while to get the ball rolling (I mean Chapter 2 was the longest and most boring chapter) but after that, I couldn't put it down either. The lore in this series is just fascinating. I love the fact that the series is continuous too. (I'm kinda sick of Final Fantasy and Tales always taking place in new worlds). But that story, my god. Dana's story is just awesome from beginning to end.
I got a bit bored of it in chapter 4. I really don't understand people saying Ys8 is amazing. Perfectly adequate is what I'd say. Don't get me wrong it wasn't bad, it just wasn't anything special.
Maybe if one hadn't played many RPG's and were more easily impressed/pleased I could see it being lauded as amazing. >__>
@@planescaped I have played FF VII, FF X, FF XII, tales series, Persona series, dragon quest series, xenoblade series, octopath traveler, nier automata...Every game has its own unique beauty ^^
Same. I only stopped playing if I am sleepy; otherwise, Dana almost always on
Ordered it for PS4, looking forward to play it. Will be my first "Ys" game.
It's been 2 years brother, how many have you played now?!
Yeah, tell us
Music is a easy 10/10
@@fluffyness2990 im starting it now!
@@dodiablazgrami hows is it🤔
I agree with you completely about XB2. You actually convinced me to get Ys 8
So 2 years later, you excited for Ys 9?
@@maninatreeproductions9588 Yes! Gonne get it on ps4 when it goes on sale. I really likes ys8
@@mattsz7313 I wanted to get XBC 2 but it looks soo boring (Combat wise) and there's no demo to try out
Its $20 on switch now. I might scoop it up too.
man everytime you bring up xenobalde 2 i know what you mean but it still stings a ton. if only you got past the first 3 chapters
JAJAvsWORLD While the story is interesting, I agree with Wood. It's pretty bad in everything else.
the voice acting grows on you but the gameplay is something that woods just hasnt experience since the game didnt hold his time enough to actually get to the real fighting
Jxudo disagreed, I've played nearly 200 hours and there's still a ton to do plus ng+. It is easily the best single player Switch game imo
Well I am now 115h into the game and I still have a problem with the battle system. not as much as in the beginning but still way to slow. Battles take forever. The rest is actually kind of okayish. what really hooked me was the story
cabbage scented candle Doesn't even come close to BoTW.
Oh my god finally someone (that I watch) reviewing this on youtube
Boomer Kaboomer you're sarcastic aren't you???
nowonmetube no
Well that means you don't watch HappyConsoleGamer (AND YOU SHOULD BE) he reviewed the game a week ago.
I love Xenoblade 2 so far (about 15 hours in)! I’ll probably get Ys VIII after I’m done with XC2, though probably on PS4.
Yea I didn't like Xenoblade Chronicles 2 as well, but Ys looks more exciting so it might be my type of JRPG.
Yeah it's not gor everyone. I didn't like it at first but after the first few chapters I got hooked because if the combat system and story.
Hey have you ever played YS Memories of Celceta? It is a masterpiece I love it. I completely recommend if u haven’t played it.
Nice review :) Cannot wait to get my head into this game. Looks great and really fun!
Still think you should give Xenoblade 2 another go at some point in the future and get further along. It really is a gem that cannot be missed, but a flaw with Xenoblade 2 is that there is so many layers to the combat system that it takes a little bit to introduce all the levels and get you aquainted. Of course, I wouldnt pick it back up until there is a lull in Switch releases or something, it is a long game... minimum 80hrs i would say...
If you have not played Xenoblade 1 though. BAD CHOICE. Play it!!! Xenoblade 1 is a godamn masterpiece.
I am pretty sure he didn't because of what he complained about in his previous videos on xenoblade
XC1 was much better imo
Xenoblade is certainly a story based game the combat kinda just adds content, I love both xenoblade 1 and 2 and as a diehard fan I would say the combat is cool but could use improvement
Also, change the voice acting to japanese, the english voices are really bad
The ""deepness"" of the combat isn't the only problem with XC2
Things I have experienced about XC2
Story - It's fantastic
Characters - Amazing
Voice actor - Good
Combat - Chapter 1-2 it's okay, after chapter 3 perfect
Soundtrack - Fantastic
This is the first game I have played in the XC serie and I could't say anything negative about it.
So far personaly got a little bit over 250 hours and have yet to get done with Postgame/NG+
I think there are some due criticisms, but it doesn't stop me from calling it my favorite rpg of all time. Ys 8 is also a masterpiece, I have to say.
If you loved Ys 8, you'll probably also love Falcom's other hit series: Trails. Trails contains the same large cast, lovable characters, and optimistic tone of the Ys series but on the scale of a 60 hour, turn-based JRPG. With a huge focus on worldbuilding, Trails has a significantly slower pace than Ys. But that's all in service of building a large chain of dominoes--and when they start falling, you can only sitback and watch as the dominoes fall. Until the last one sets off fireworks!
I would highly recommend starting with Trails of Cold Steel on PC as the most accessible entry point for the series.
Yeah I love the trails series I hope cold steel comes to switch as it's the only console I own. Also my laptop can't even run some roblox games so I doubt it'd be able to run TOCS. Either that or trails in the sky trilogy.
You had me until you said "turn-based"
Doorto thank you, im gonna check it out
Not necessarily. I loved Ys 8 but I could not get into the Trails series, way TOO MUCH focus on story imho.
@@azzzanadra but it's perfect turn based
yea i would have liked xenoblade a ton more if it had Ys8 gameplay
agreed
U cant say anything about xenoblade characters until u unlock ZEKE VON GENBU, BRINGER OF CHAOS, MOSTLY KNOWN AS ZEKE, AND OFTEN ADRESSED AS THE ZEKENAAAATOOOOOR(and best girl... I mean mòrag)
Or as I called him when I first met him, "Owain with an eyepatch."
Hey, shellhead! 😼
Pandoria is best girl
For me the game become fun when I unlocked Sheba early chapter 3.
Nia goes from being a boring healer to an OP attacker! and one of the most fun characters to use.
Overload Thunderbeeeeeeaaaaam
yeah unfortunately for XC2, the beginning is painstakingly slow, but im so glad i played through all of it, in the end i thoroughly enjoyed it
I hear you about XC2 but I wouldn't want the battle system in XC2 to be similar to the one in Ys. I want different experiences and the battle system in Ys is nice but quite classic in the action RPG genre.
I never played a XC game before i experienced XC2 and yea the learning curve was hard but once it clics with you, this is an amazing feeling to achieve the best combos and millions of damage. Ys on the other hand seems quite easy from what I heard and I am not convinced by the character design, it feels a bit dated but I am still happy to start Ys 8 and play it for hte first time on the go on Nintendo Switch.
I don't understand you don't notice the problem with Ys on handle mode yet. I mean the game looks sharp during cut scenes but during gameplay, the resolution is constantly varying to the point where it is really weird. At least XC2 had a pretty stable resolution in handled mode. Yes, it was low but it was more stable. Ys8 is cool to play on the go but wtf is this unstable resolution ? I can definitely notice the dynamic resolution variations here. And it is the first time I notice this on a Switch game.
Panzer Dragoon Worldパンツァードラグーンワールド "classic in the Action RPG genre"? What are you talking about? Which other RPG games do have this kind of battle system? I literally know 0.
nowonmetube I am ok to discuss with people but not with a troll right ? There are tones of games with this style of battle system. It’s a beat them all at the core like Nier Automata essentially. Except it’s even simpler, no hard combos. A few spells that are easier to use than combos in Nier. That’s cool, I like a simple battle system as well but let’s face it. It’s not reinventing the wheel. The Ys8 battle system is déjà vu but I’m cool with that. Just don’t pretend it’s something “new”.
nowonmetube that's why he said "action RPG." Completely different than classic FF and the like if that's what you were thinking. Kingdom Hearts, for one, is a beat-em-up action RPG. Same with The Witcher and Elder Scrolls series.
XC2 with a different battle system would have done soo much better
Mike who knows. Having put more than 100 hours in XC2, I couldn’t imagine a different combat system for the game. It just wouldn’t be XC2. That tells you how much the battle system defines XC2.
It's weird how you enjoyed Pokemon Quest but not Xenoblade. I still love you though!
Xenoblade is overpraised
@@galihriskipratama3631 Xenoblade is underrated
XC2 is the weakest XC game in terms of combat options
I'm about to get this game on sale and I look into your review to reaffirm my decision. Love lots.
I got it on sale the other day and haven't put it down yet! Its worth the buy!
@@ceez3895 Saaaame! It's sooo good!
@@ceez3895 same
You can't go wrong with this game 👍
Bought the game last night after watching this video and I'm having a blast! Thanks Wood! I've been overlooking the title for ages! Also gives me star ocean and monster hunter vibes.
Another 7 days Wood. Unacceptable! Hope everything is ok on the home front, great to see you back in business.
Two completely different style of JRPGs, no reason to compare them, that’s like comparing Final Fantasy 7 to FFXV or a Realm reborn
Xenoblade Chronicles 2 is a game you need to put in at least 50 before you can review it properly. I personally dropped the game at first for a couple week, but when I returned and put in the needed hours, it became my favorite game on the switch. By the way you talk about the game I suggest you play the Golden Country when it's released, it seems more like what you want.
angle galves he won’t get the story though
Not even that, If you're gonna review the game FINISH the game.
Emma Jensen torna the golden country is a prequel, so he could just start there.
I am not saying that the game is not fun at the Beginning, what i am saying is that the game takes of when you put in the time
I've never understood that point, if you to get to the good part of the game play X amount of hours! If I don't like a game why am I going to spend so much time grueling through an experience I don't enjoy? I'd much rather spend that time looking for a game I enjoy off the bat.
Havent played Ys yet but 100% agree with xenoblade. I really wanted to like but for reasons you said, I just couldnt
kevin cattell Then you would greatly enjoy the first Xenoblade game
Totally agree with your opinion of Xenoblade Chronicles 2. I really wanted to like it, but the combat and overall pace of the game was just too slow for me.
Jason Bush so you couldn’t even play till the 3rd chapter?
@@Someone-gp3jh so.. Whats your point? If a game doesnt hook you in the first few hour its a design flaw. Game are supposed to be fun not a chore.
@@AndrewHadi07 Considering many people were hooked by the game from the start your "design flaw" argument seems very debatable.
I can see that you dropped xc 2 at the start of the game. You should play it more, because more levels of tactic will be added to the combat system. And it all adds up to a pretty complex battle system.
Ari Maman Everyone told him this in his original "non" review. Needless to say he didnt listen and just trashed the game.
Because of you I have become addicted to YS VIII. And I am ok with this.
My Switch came today.
Kevin F1 hope you like it as much as I do!
Tell me if it's worth it! I'm waiting for a special edition Switch.
narf1070 I sure will! I got Mario Rabbids and Mario Kart with it and both Rocket League and Lego City Undercover are coming tommorow!
Ariël Levi I can certainly recommend a Switch to you.
Hope you enjoy it
I respect your opinion on XC2, even if it is wrong.
Nah I agree with him completely, the combat just sucks
When Adol Christine get onto a ship, we get a new Ys
That’s how you know he’s looking for more action
I'm on chapter 5 of xenoblade and still don't know how to do certain stuff. Like how exactly to setup your party for cool blade combos and still haven't figured out how to break , topple, (lift?) And smash lol. But I'm still loving the game.
I_Need_Pants_ hahaha same here :D
MIXA PCPRO glad I'm not the only one lol
Each weapon type has certain Arts. Just get Blades with Break, Launch, and Smash, and you're set.
Rex natively has Topple, and a certain story Blade for Rex already gives him Smash, and if you give him an axe Blade, he'll have Launch. Nia has Break with the Rings.
Remember, Break → Topple → Launch → Smash
You'll get there :) you still learn battle mechanics a long time into the game. Combos work like this, you do a level one fire attack, then another once its charged up to level 2 and then again for another at level 3. If you've followed the correct element path you'll do a special combo and it can either seal monsters moves and such depending on the path. This puts elemental orbs around the montser. Finish on a fire attack? A fire orb will appear and you will deal less fire damage to that monster. So you can put many orbs on one mon depending which is when the chain attack comes into play. Pressing + with 3 bars filled in the upper left starts it. If you use an opposing elemental attack on the orb itll break dealing massive damage to the montser and i believe giving you another full turn in the chain.
Break topple lift and smash are straightforward. Break moves inflict break, then you use a move that can do topple like rexs healing move when you get further into the game. Another character or blade uses lift and then another or the same can use smash. The ai will recognise when a mon has these ailments and will use the appropriate move. Though sometimes its delayed.
I just bought the Adventure Edition!! And I LOVE it! It's such an excellent game also... Wood is the best... love your content your one of the reasons I made my own channel been here since 60,000 and stay here till it's over, 😂 Also I love Xenoblade 2 it has one of my favorite music in videogames ever! But that's ok you didn't like it!!! People have their opinions, and also it actually does get better over time but some people like it and some don't
Fable Joey I agree with you so much
I’ll have to check out your channel, love finding new TH-cam gamers.
Player Parker Thank you me aswell I'll check out yours!
xbc2 is georgeous.
i have like 416 hours of playtime now and i cant get enough of it.
no other game ever bound me this long, well except wow
Great review again. It's a great game but I can't see paying $59.99 for the Switch version when I only paid $19.99 for the Vita version.
Today is the day.
To me so far this game looks fun but I don't see how it is better than Xenoblade Chronicles 2. I honestly really disagree about the Characters in Xenoblade 2 because I couldn't stop playing it.
Its just as good but imo the combat of Ys Viii is better
idonotmakevidsyet is the story for ys good?
I am also excited with shining resonance coming out this july! I enjoyed the demo combat and cutscenes are freaking amazing. You have to try it out...
Simple Buddy is it action RPG?
Annette O. Yup
Annette O. Eh it's nothing special. Cutscenes are just sub par pop up pictures.
Simple Buddy "freaking amazing" I found it all meh :/
It was so promising _until_ I played the demo. How unfortunate.
The combat on that game was terrible to be honest......
If you haven’t played through Xenoblade 2, then it’s probably a bad idea to use it as a reference. Like like citing an article but you only read the headline.
"Like citing an article but you only read the headline.
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I got flashbacks to my thesis.
He's played like 15-20 hours of it. He's got enough first hand experience to talk about its pros and cons.
@@FullMetalCowMoo Not saying it's a good thing, but yes 15, hours doesn't even get the fully unlocked combat systems. So yeah until you beat chapter 4, you're pretty much in Act 1 of the game.
@@Jordan-subj if you haven't unlocked all the basic combat 15 hours in then the game is trash
@@Jordan-subj Wasn't this one of the gripes that made FFXIII a "horrible" game to most people. Because I personally liked it alot, but everyone always said, blah, all corridors and the battle system doesn't even fully unlock until your like 16 hours in. So I came to the conclusion that if someone plays a game 15 hours and they conclude that it's bad while not having the full experience, that's a fine opinion. They didn't enjoy 15 hours enough to continue. That's more than half a day. You can definitely have a perfectly formed opinion in that time.
I did the same exact thing as you, I dropped Xenoblade 2 around chapter 3 of the uraya part. I had the same problems you did. However I decided to pick the game up a few months later and finish it. It was an amazing decision, I fell in love with the characters the ending made me think to myself "What an amazing game, what a game." I highly recommend that you actually finish the game before you trash talk it anymore. I was in your shoes a few months ago. Xenoblade chronicles 2 made me cry. Video games don't often make me cry.
I bought the game because of this review, and it is by far my favorite game on the switch right now
People act like combat will magically change the more hours you put into XBC2. Thats the part he didn't like deal with it.
Uh...it does.
I don't think I've gotten past chapter 3, and even I know that it evolves lmao. I only stopped because I was afraid of the scope and magnitude of the game.
And you act like it won’t
Lol... I am right at the beginning more or less like 14 hours in. And yes combat changes....
Oh it totally does. After 20 or so hours I started watching some videos on it. Still I didn’t put into use some of it until later.
Xenoblade's voice acting isn't that bad. Rex is the only one that needs improvement. Characters like Zeke, Morag, Brighid, Dromarch, Wulfric, Jin, and Malos have amazing voices.
Rex’s voice is amazing 😂 he’s got a weird British midlands accent it’s amazing! Haha
Aaaaaaaaaaaiiiiiiiyaa
In my ng+ I tried Japanese voices and it's so much better!
Rex and Nia have terrible voices
I was like "wtf is he on about?" and then I understood that you used English voices.
Please set it to Japanese.
LOVE the Ys series as a whole, and VIII was no different!
I agree with you here. Xenoblade 2 Combat felt so lifeless. Didn't help That the characters are straight up anime tropes which I can usually tolerate but they were not executed well at all. YS VIII was for me, one of the better games of 2017. Up there with Nier Automata, Persona 5, Tales of Berseria and Gravity Rush 2 as the best jrpg's of 2017.
Just finished the game. The ending really hit me like a truck, really did not expected that. It's feel like you lost something important to you, but you don't realize it until you actually lost it. There's a lot of greater game, even some that I call masterpiece, but did not have this kind of effects when I finished it.
Like what ? I am looking for some suggestions 😂
Loved Ys 8 on PS4 & I would have just loved to play this game on the go, while leveling up to passing a certain level. 🙂
As someone who really enjoys XC2 & YS 8 I definitely see some of your points, they both scratch a different itch while still being tangentially similar. I will point out that every aspect of Eternian architecture *screamed* Ivalice from FF12 to me though, the capitol ruins looked just like the Nabudis ruins (minus the undead hoard and those *fucking reapers* ), the stone work really looks a lot like Rabanastre. I can't be the only one who sees it! There's even a Wood spirit that insists other spirits (namely the shopkeeper) remain in the forest & the shopkeeper almost directly quotes Fran from FF12 in response! Where's that Always Sunny meme with the cork-board??
I think besides the nearly ps2 level graphics, it took my eyes a couple hours to stop screaming about the grass textures, my only big complaint is that we don't get Dana's other forms in the present.
i just started playing ys 8, and just the other ys games i've tried, i just can't really get into it. the weird thing is i played a game called nayuta on psp emulator, which is made by the same developers as ys and very similar, and it's one of my favorite games ever. somehow the combat in nayuta felt more fun, and for whatever reason in ys i can never get fully comfortable with the controls. i had to swap the l1 and r1 buttons just to make them somewhat comfortable to use. i'm gonna stick with it, but i'm like 20+ hours in so i'm not expecting it to grow on me too much. i love the trails series, some of my favorite games of all time, but ys just doesn't do it for me for some reason.
Thanks man, your enthusiastic reviews always lead me to get these cool underrated games and I'm usually not disappointed
I loved XC, XCX, and XC2 (and Torna).
I just started YS8, and it feels a bit like how XCX felt after XC. Similar but different.
I'm still at the exploration stage, and it feels like XCX.
I agree YS8 seems to have great characters.
Im new to the Y's games and i've been playing Oath of Felghana on pc and picked up Origins. So far these are my favourite rpg's as they have smooth, fast and fluid combat. The stories and characters are really well done and the game moves on quickly and doesn't drag on. I will definately be picking up Y's VIII.
I still come back to this video every now and then. I love both games as both fulfill my desire to explore a grand world bit in different ways. I think what this video did, at least for me, was bring attention to a slightly lesser known game by comparing it to Xenoblade Chronicles 2. To compare Ys 8 to such a big name title that has only become more beloved with time was a genius way of selling the quality of this one, intentional or not. I'm sure Falcom was flattered to hear you compare their game to Nintendo's despite how much bigger that company is. What a pleasant video.
You just convinced me to pick up YS VIII, good review.
Also I played like 200 hours of XC2 and I felt burnt out do to overgrinding small aspects of the game just so I could try and unlock story for my blades and then to find out they weren't that interesting after all. The random rolls of unlocking blades really made me feel like powering them up as much as possible which always became a detriment to the story. So in the end I never really cared too much about the characters. I think that was its biggest weakness for me.
Okay one big issue I have with what you are saying....Xenoblade Chronicles 2 true game doesn't really start until you're about 60 hours in. They introduce new systems, teach you how to better play, tons more character development. I think the most underrated aspect of XC2 is the fact the game makes you feel how you should feel. You have no clue what's coming next, or why certain things are happening...that's a key part of the story. XC2 character development throughout the game and story line (while confusing at times) was very satisfying. Ys 8 might be amazing and ima try it out but I don't like how you are shading XC2 when you haven't played enough of the game yet.....beat the game at 120 hrs in. And all 120 was necessary.
For the graphics, remember that this game was originally made for the PlayStation Vita.
I do wish that they ported the extra content back to the Vita version though, since it could definitely handle it. (Ditto for Tokyo Xanadu and Dead or Alive 5+.)
For me xenoblade chronicles 2 is the best rpg i have played since dark chronicle .I love everything in this game the characters(tora is my favorite) ,the enviroments ,the story,the side quests ,gameplay. I didn't played the previous one tho.
I love this video. It makes me so happy that I found someone that literally put into words how I feel about the game and how it compares to how I felt about xenoblade. I honestly didn’t finish xenoblade because I got bored of the mechanics and i became discouraged because the idea of the world and the creatures and story were amazing and yet the fighting style was repetitive. Picking up this game I loved it instantly, it was the xenoblade I really wanted and I have to say it’s a definite favorite of mine now. The characters are definitely much more involved and the story tears at your feels, amazing review 👏🏼 I’m subscribing
Once XC2's battle system clicks it becomes magical, there is so much depth, strategy and a rhythm to it.
Well can you please tell me how to beat malos and his buddy in the collesium level please? Because I stopped playing the game just because of how unbalanced and unfair that part was.
Wow the comments about Xenoblade 2...in the comments section.
The comparison is perfectly fine. He didn't like XB2 and the excuse of "it gets better 10+ hours in" isn't a good one. To me and probably him that just means play a game you'll actually enjoy in that time instead of wasting it in a game you'll hate. He didn't like the combat in XB2, he liked it in Ys8, we get why he didn't like one vs the other. Again, it makes sense.
Yes, JRPGs take a while to get going sometimes, but TEN or 20 hours before it MIGHT get good? That's 1-4 games you might actually like. I can't think of a JRPG that took that amount of time to get going. FFVII/Tactics, Tales of Xillia & Berseria, Breath of Fire 3 and 4.
I agree with him, I found Xenoblade's combat incredibly dull and some of the story moments in the very early game were VERY cringy. The part with his Dragon friend- you know the one. First impressions are important and that really didn't do it any favors for me. "But if you play for another 10 hours it gets really good"
Again, in that time, I can beat a lot of more fun switch games in the time that takes. Ys 8, ship was dull and it crashes then you're greeted with one of the BEST songs in any RPG, Sunshine Coastline and you're already on an adventure, exploring, cutting up monsters. Not even a full party and it's fun. Xenoblade? Oh my goodness the combat was so slow and dull.
Also, what other JRPG is he going to compare it too? Switch doesn't have a lot right now, compare it to a PS4 game? Well I'm sure everyone would be happy with that. Comparing a game that the Switch might not ever get a port of or might not be able to handle. That'd have a real nice reaction from the fans.
Yeah, no, Xenoblade 2 has much more going for it than I think you allowed yourself to experience. The story really picks up and the characters are very well developed by the end of the game. I doubt you will return to it, as you do seem to have your mind set but if you ever do, know that there is a brilliant game waiting for you.
Nah, the ending was pretty cliche's.
Not really, glimpses of potential, but the game is like a teenager trying to be a grown-up, but not having the guts to stick to a decision.
I don't usually subscribe to channels because I don't need the constant pings from TH-cam, but you helped me make up my mind about buying Ys and you told me we'd be best friends! I could really use a friend, so... there you go, one more sub (and like, and comment, the works)!
Absolutely agree with everything you said concerning XC2 vs. YsVIII. Thanks for the review!
You know, I'm actually with you. I played through xenoblade chronicles and loved it. I played through chronicles x and loved it, as weird as that game was. But chronicles 2? I actually felt it was a step down in a lot of ways. I get where you're coming from on ys 8, and I appreciate it.
XC2 is AMAZING, I dont think you gave it enough time. It's a slow burn with character development through the first half of the game but REALLY sucks you in for the later half of the game. It's easily the best game on Switch IMO.
I don't know why you bother mentioning XB2 when you expressed you haven't even completed enough of it to form a full educated opinion on the game. It's fine to not like, just don't bother using it a comparing point for the basis of another game since you only know so little about it.
Vincent Jones perfect reply my guy.
Exactly my thought. I don't know why he needs to compare the two. None of the other Ys VIII reviews compares the two games.
Yes thank you !
Because there's not a lot of other RPGs on Switch and if you start comparing games on other consoles then you get angry fans of the console who'll not be happy you're comparing a game because the switch can't handle it/the switch doesn't have it/etc.
Not only are Ys and XB2 two completely different types of RPGs, the problem still lies that he doesn't know much about Xenoblade, only doubling down on why he has no business comparing them. All he had to do was judge this game on its own merits, not even mention Xeno, and he would be fine.
I played this game and absolutely loved it! It was lots of fun with lots of plot twists and you definitely bond with the characters and get invested in their stories. Highly recommend and can’t wait for ys 9: monstrum nox!😄
This comment was 3 years ago, so I’m assuming you’re joking 😂😂😂😂
I will admit, I wasn't crazy about most of the English voices at all. When I heard Adol, I instantly wished he spoke WAY more in Ys VIII, I absolutely love Bryce Papenbrook, he is my favorite voice actor of all time. So I was happy he voiced Adol in this game.
I’ve put 130 hours in Xenoblade 2 and can confirm its one of the best RPGs I’ve ever played. Been playing Ys 8 and it’s very comparable to Xenoblade. Enjoying it so far!
It's called Stockholm Syndrome. Xenoblade Chronicles 2 is an objectively awful game, and there are many reviews that provide specific bullet points as to why.
I'm about 25 hours into Ys VIII and I absolutely love it. I put 90 hours into Xenoblade Chronicles 2 and then gave up. I straight up sold the game. It was such a frustrating, monotonous, overly complicated game. The best things about XBC2 were the soundtrack (which is my favorite soundtrack of 2018), and the environments/cities. Ys VIII is so much more fun to play and does everything the way I was hoping XBC2 would.
Also, you should have noted that Ys VIII actually came out in July of 2016 on VITA, so it actually precedes XBC2 by a couple of years. That makes it even more frustrating. You can tell that XB2 was inspired by Ys VIII (there are so many similarities in world design, item acquisition, and even character models), but yet still managed to make it a less fun game to play. I'm really glad that so many people enjoyed XBC2, but I'm with you on this one. Ys VIII is a far, far better experience.
Since you like ys VIII I'm pretty sure you'll love all the other falcom games
I can't agree because Ys story is not as good as Xenoblade 2 that is something special even when compared to Xenoblade 1 that was already a masterpiece.
But the gameplay of Ys is really cool, the combat is just not something people complain because it is really basic, what is cool about it is the progression through the island
I have just started playing this on the PS4 instead of my Switch and I am really impressed so far.
The story is interesting and I've just started to get to know some of the characters but it's got a long way to go to beat XC2, the connection to those characters by the end of the game was one like no other.
You definitley should have played more of XC2 but I can understand why you prefer YS VIII, cant wait to play more!
Dana and Dogi, you spelled the names right. The PC Version of the game has the Japanese Audio for you to use, and if I have the chance of getting the game with the original voice acting, I usually use that, even if I lose a little of side dialog. And Dana and Dogi is just the way you spelled don't worry. xD At least in Japanese. Also, the true ending is way more enjoyable with the effects on the voices in Japanese, that somehow was lost on the english dub. And about the graphics issues, those doesn't exist on the PC or PS4 version, I mean, never a far away texture was weird or looked like a giant pixel like the video was shown here, so yeah. And the PC ver doesn't even require such a big ammount of things to play, so it's worth a shot if you guys want to test it.
Man I feel ya about Xenoblade 2s combat. 230 hours in my game and while i love the game, combat improved VERY minimally over the course of those hours.
25 years later, they say woods is still running away from angry xenoblade fans
Ys is life.
The Best arpg For me.
I'd love to have "Y's Vanished Omens " on Switch. AKA: Y's Books 1 and 2...
Adol with heart-shaped glasses LOL.
Also, seeing here a lot of people bothered by your comparison of Ys 8 and Xenoblade.
Great video!
Hoo boy... I really disagree with you RE XC2, the voice acting was not bad, it was actually for the most part pretty good for an rpg, you're clearly just not used to welsh accents! As for you not getting attached to the characters, I'm guessing you didn't bother playing further than the first few hours. There is a shitton of character growth in that game and there were very few characters I didn't get attached to or empathise with. XC2 was game of the year for 2017 for me. It's a goddamn masterpiece. Give it another chance and play more than 6 hours of it this time!
Wild Portrait Artist As someone currently at Chapter 8, I can really understand if he wasn't all that pulled in by the characters or story. They're not that great.
Everytime rex tries to do battlecry I died inside
Wild Portrait Artist this is coming from someone who loves the game, the english voice acting isn't that great
Haha Welsh. Idiot.
I can't wait to play this game. I've always liked at the look of the YS series but I've never been sure about jumping, but I think this unit I'm going for it, thanks to your review. Shane about its look in the dock but I'd rather be able to play off the TV than have the best graphics.
Could you do a Shining Resonance Refrain review, been tempted by the demo of that game.
I'm currently still playing Xenoblade, but probably will het this some day.
DigiBradChannel nah bro, torna dlc is coming out soon lol
Don’t get this game lol. Unless you don’t care about story then should be fine
I honestly do not see the need for this comparison . XB2 and Ys8 are very different, independant games. I guess it's to reach a more wide audience...
Hey Dogi.
Oh, hey Tommy.
You are my favorite customer.
In my case I enjoyed Ys VIII from start but in the case of XC2 my hype went downhill after chapter 5, the ending was a bit disappointing mainly because Pyra/Mythra sacrifice didn't mean anything
“They’re very similar rpgs” except for everything
You’re on a ship that gets attacked by a giant monster, leaving you stranded on a monster island with your shipmates. So... it’s monster hunter world.
Lol, this game came first.
Beat them both XBC2 is better imo
Are you high I want what your smoking
@@princefishyfingers7498I think everyone who beat both ends like that, because it is hard going until the end of Xenoblade 2 and not get at least emotional about it, its story hits hard, so hard that I prefer it over Botw even though the gameplay in Botw is far superior
I feel like you spoil way too much of the game with your “review”, however this does make me excited to play the game.
He really didn't spoil much.
None of what he said was important to the plot
People are literally never happy.
Personally. I don't understand anyone who willingly searches for anything, expecting not a single thing for it to be spoiled?? Even seeing what game mechanics a game uses are spoilers in my eyes.
Same thing goes for a sports game. Stay off the internet until you watch it. If you can't decide you want a game, then play a friend's copy, or look up gameplay and watch five minutes.
If you watch a review, you're going to get story basis, mechanics, and climax. It's a review. Like????? Don't blame him because you didn't want to spend money right away.
Ys VIII is definitely my favourite RPG that i have ever played and probably, for a long time, the only game that makes me take it seriously. I refused to play on and finish the game after chapter 5 because of the ending to the game. I loved all the characters and how they support and contradict each other and it really stings when you know that they can't be with one another at the very end (Probably just that I can't accept the fate of a 'certain character'). When I play most of the other generic RPGs, I know it will either end in a happy or sad ending so I just play on but with Ys, all 3 endings seemed bitter-sweet, which is unique to see in fantasy games, and it truly pains me to know that how 'character' is with you but not with you at the same time. It's like how you watched this great TV show or anime and you just can't wait to know the ending but after searching it on google, you refuse to watch the remaining episodes just so you would never know how the characters even arrived at the point and keeping that inner fantasy you had of the game alive. I do really hope there will be a sequel where all of the crew members including 'said character' will be reunited and having another epic adventure or a remake featuring the same crew but with an alternate story and ending. It would probably destroy the setting from the original game but lets be honest, who did not want all the characters to be together. Curious to know how others took the game, have a nice day :)
Good. I have Ys VIII on Vita and love it. Definitely getting it on Switch once I get a Switch. I still wish Dogi (Dough-ghee in pronunciation: the O is an elongated vowel and the I is like how you pronounce lean) was playable, because his design is SO much better than previous games.
2 minutes in and you’re telling us the beginning of the game instead of reviewing the game. Why?
It’s worth a lot of money now. Just secured my copy!
One of the major issues with Xenoblade 2 was that the first several hours were kind of a slog. Which makes no sense because the first game hooked you in the very first segment. You immediately understood the relationships between the characters, had an idea of the stakes and the bad guys (though those changed with the story twists) and understood Skulk's motivation for leaving home on his quest. Xenoblade 2 presented us with this quest to bring a character we know nothing about to this place we know nothing about against stakes we know nothing about. It gets better, but that beginning is a massive flaw.
On to Ys VIII. The developer, Falcom, is one of the finest jrpg studios around. Their games don't have the highest budgets, so their games are always lacking in the visual department, but they excel in story, characters and gameplay. I'd put Ys VIII up there as one of the best action jrpgs of modern generations just like the 2 Legend of Heroes: Trails of Cold Steel games are some of the best turn based jrpgs. Bigger companies like Square Enix might have beautiful visuals, but they don't have nearly the passion and heart Falcom puts into their games.
Totally with you on this Wood! I played 40 hours into Xenoblade, stopped after chapter 8... but LOVING YsVIII SO MUCH MORE!!!
THANK YOU! I didnt know this was a genre. I liked XB2, but the combat was too slow for me. This looks exactly what I wanted. I been looking for a week straight for a switch game and I never saw this one.
LEAVE TORA ALONE HE’S TRYING HIS BEST ;_;
I feel you should stop talking about xenoblade 2's story and characters since you stopped so early in the game you know ABSOLUTELY nothing about them
i bought xenoblade today....
Lars Kouijzer and it's the best jrpg right now for me 😂😂😂 enjoy it and please give love to Floren, is full of surprises 💜(? And if you like anime play the game in Japanese, it's (for me) a better experience 😅
Inchido Oh it most certainly does have flaws. All the areas on Mechonis were a chore to get through, I stopped playing for months because it was so tedious
Inchido not because it was hard, because there were soooo many enemies that were impossible to avoid, and my number one issue: visions. They're a really cool concept but when you're fighting 10 enemies at once and there are visions constantly, it makes battles pause over and over again all the while dropping the frame rate and making battles ridiculously slow and annoying. Then I'm finally gonna win and I get knocked off the edge -_-
I still love the game though, just not the Mechonis areas...
It's an amazing game once it takes off. Give it a shot, I'm sure you'll love it
Mili N. The best jrpg is Persona 5:D
I really love YS VIII, I played this game on my Low Specs Laptop... Though there are so many people got so many bugs and problems, I never got crashed when playing this game until the end... I definitely recommend this game... :D