I found a pair of Allen Edmonds at a thrift store. They were beat up with holes in the bottoms. I paid 7 dollars for them because no one knew what they were. I paid 140 shipping included to have them refracted. That was 5 years ago and they still look brand new.
They are almost free on Poshmark ~ I've bought so many I'm getting pickey. Only Brogued boots and price less than $30. I'm diversifying into British Loake and Tricker.
You can have a pair of Walmart Shoes for 100 years. It all depends on how many hours you wear them in that period and what you are doing in them. Saying a shoe can last decades does not provide any information whatsoever. Even if worn every day for 20 years, one person could wear them for 8 hours sitting at an office and another could be walking in then for the full 8 hours.
I concur here, except I've had my four pairs of AE's for 8 years or less. They handle Michigan's crazy weather like a breeze. I feel bad slowly expanding my rotation with some Carmina's that will be worn more.
Thx for all you do Kirby - you have inspired me to do a much better job at dressing and taking the time to properly care for my garments and shoes. Huge difference in my life. I began watching your videos in February of this year, and wanted to look better. As a result, I have lost 82 pounds, feel fantastic and look great. All because I started watching. This is the influence you may not know you have on the folks that watch your videos. As a gift to myself, I purchased my first pair of CARMINA loafers. Not bespoke - but definitely very nice. Thx again for starting me on this journey. By the way, I’ve purchased a ton of shoe polish from your web store, along with shoe laces and horsehair brush. Love them!!
Allen Edmonds definitely offer a great shoe at the $400 price point. I prefer Carmina, and think their toe shapes are much stylish, but both are great options. Can't forget J. Fitzpatrick and the flair he adds to many classic styles (you have a great interview with him btw). Another brand that I think offers great value and has beautifully made shoes is Cobbler Union - goodyear welted, beveled waists with a fiddleback, tight heels, lovely uppers, and very nice toe shapes. Definitely a brand worth looking into, but of course all of these are.
I have Strands and Macallisters. Both are on their second soles and heels which were done by a local craftsman whose work is excellent. Excellent shoes made of full grain leather. You can’t go wrong with them. Best advice is to make sure that the last the shoes were made on resemble your foot. A.E. Numbers the lasts and lists which shoes come from which last. The vary quite a bit from the long and sleek European shapes to the roomier American shaped lasts.
I adore my Allen Edmonds shoes. I own a pair of Strand, Bergamo, Walden, Park Avenue, Boston, Highway 1, and a pair of Dalton boots. Thank you Kirby for all the great videos.
Hi Daniel, I just bought my first pair of Edmonds black tassled loafers--'look just nice with black slacks.. I am a new customer myself.. Can't wait to wear my Edmonds patent leather shoes ! Just with tux trousers +casual jacket--go for a drive in .my Jeep or to the mall
You most definitely had that backwards. Broguing, wingtips, etc are not formal. A brogued derby isn't fit for a black tie event, for example. Edit: not an attack on you. Just making the point.
Along with the wide selection of sizes and widths available from Allen Edmonds, they can also custom-make a shoe for you if your foot happens to fall outside of the sizes available online and in-store. I recently purchased a pair of AE Park Avenues in a 6.5 EE online. After receiving the shoes, I discovered they were a bit loose. I took them to my local AE store where they examined my foot and shoe fit. Even their own measurements concluded that I was a 6.5 EE. However, they explained that the Park Avenue (as well as other shoes made with the same last) tends to run a half size to one full size large. They recommended a size 5.5 EE for me, which they do not offer normally, and said that they could custom-make the shoe for an additional charge of $40. I went ahead with the purchase, and a few weeks later I had my great-fitting shoes. Yes, I have small feet, as I am a pretty short guy.
Terrific video! I now have two pairs of Allen Edmonds (Walnut Liverpool Chelseas, and Walnut single Monk Straps with Dainite Soles). These are absolutely AMAZING boots / shoes. The style, craftsmanship, materials, fit and finish of this true American brand stands apart from anything else I own. Heirloom items, indeed. Great respect to Allen Edmonds Custom Projects Manager, artisan, and friend, Big Steve 'Sudsy' Sudsbury!
I could not be more satisfied with my AE MacNeals, thank you for the video, I have learned a lot and just knowing more about the brand, the relevance and seeing the comments from other owners just adds more value. Thanks again!
I bought Allen Edmonds Burton in 2008. 9 years walking to work in NYC. 3 sole replacements (1 was a recraft by AE factory). Took good care of the uppers and they still get compliments. Easily worth the cost.
I've got 4 pairs of AEs that I've either received as gifts or bought on clearance, and they are universally very comfortable. For my feet, my strands are by far the most comfortable pare of shoes I own.
Kirby, thanks so much for going into a discussion on the rubber soles. I live in Chicago, and always thought flat leather bottom dress shoes should come with a helmet. Not to mention, they feel like a minimalist shoe walking on pavement and concrete, far from comfortable or common sense. Good to know that you aren't aghast at a rubber bottom, even if it didn't take an old man to craft it.
I love your videos. I have been a fan since the beginning. I like watching people do what I do. People always remark about my shoes. I can't get enough of that.
I worked with Italian shoe industry .Good to know still a shoe factory making a great product and people whose wearing and appreciates. Excellent video.
Actually bought my first pair of Allen Edmonds for my birthday a couple weeks ago, a pair of black Park Avenues. Very nice shoe, real step up from what I was wearing before.
I am a huge fan of the Clifton in Black, perfectly suited for both dressy and business occasions. Sadly, they are no longer made, however, due to the AE recrafting program, I know that mine will last for many years to come.
Excellent video, very educational. This video is by far one of the best reviews I've seen on TH-cam. I sincerely appreciate the information, and I will definitely take it into consideration. Much Respect, Mike
Having just received a pair of Allen Edmonds MacNeil 2 (factory seconds) barely worn once or twice which I bought via eBay, I just discovered this video and The Hangar Project. I paid $80 for them, and was concerned about some of the photos the seller posted showing finish and stitching flaws. I reasoned, if I really didn't like them, I could probably sell them for the same amount or even more (the seller hadn't done a very good job of presenting and selling on eBay). In person, I'm delighted! Imperfections in the sole edge finish were covered and perfected with one coat of Fiebing's dye. Hydrating with mink oil, cream, and shining (as you instruct in your How to Shine Allen Edmonds Shoes video -- THANKS!), the blemishes are almost impossible to find, and will disappear further with use, time, and shining. These imperfections are very manageable with just a little effort and knowledge. Only careful scrutiny of the shoes would discover them. On the other hand, these factory seconds have full leather soles -- I prefer the Danite soles for all weather, frequen NYC walking. Nonetheless, $80 for almost perfect Allen Edmond's is not just a deal, it's a steal! Loving my two other AE first quality pairs of shoes, Firenze Italian loafers and Globetrotters, for the past six years, getting a new job in insurance, it was time to step up to something dressier. Now that I've experienced AE Factory Seconds, I'm definitely open to paying $195 to AE for seconds, and when they've done their job (and I've done more of mine), full price for first quality!
I think their Cornwallis is their best style, very minimal lace up oxford with minimal broguing and medallion, it can be worn in place of a typical formal cap toe which I’ve always found to be tacky, I prefer the look of a wholecut oxford, but the discreet medallion makes it just as formal of a shoe, suitable for everything other than black tie.
Have you done a video on the Carlyle? I’ve got two pair of McAllisters (dark chili and burgundy) that I love. I’m thinking of a Carlyle in Walnut for my next pair of AE’s.
Wonderful video! I love how you focus on the quality and features of the AE shoe. I’ve normally purchased Ecco due to comfort, and will certainly be looking into AE this December.
Great informative video I appreciate the story you shared about your friend and his mentor indeed a life lesson well learned look forward to future video on AE shoes!
Back in the 90’s, I finished college late in life and had an opportunity to work for a computer consulting company. I didn’t have much, but I needed to buy some suits and some dress shoes. As luck would have it for me, a local shoe store was going out of business and I was able to get some great deals on several pairs of shoes. The guy convinced me to spend the extra money and buy Allen Edmonds shoes and I did. I can honestly say that the Allen Edmonds shoes that I bought were not only well made, unlike other dress shoes that I’ve owned in the past they got more comfortable throughout the day. Seriously. Those leather lined Allen Edmonds shoes just seemed to mold to my feet. I worked very long hours at my new job but my feet always felt great. When it comes to your feet, always buy quality. You will never regret it. Your feet are your foundation.
The Park Ave. in black was the very first pair of Allen Edmonds that I purchased; I liked them so much that I got the Strands in walnut followed by the Cornwallis in dark chili. My latest acquisition is the Weymouth II wholecuts in dark brown from Crockett and Jones which have since become my favorite pair of shoes!
I would say the AE Verona II Italian horse bit loafer is an excellent shoe for the money. They are extremely comfortable to wear as an every day work shoe due to their soft calfskin & flexible leather outsole. With 3 colors available and a $350 price point it's a great value for an Italian made shoe.
Great video! My first proper pair was an Allen Edmonds McTavish in chili color (no longer available). I am sending them in for recrafting! I have since purchased Alden. Big difference in comfort but equal craftmanship and quality. I highly recommend both. Thanks again for the video.
Jose, I just purchased my first pair of AE shoes (Dalton Boot) and thought they fit me well and were true to size. I have seen some Alden shoes online that interest me, but there is no store in my area to judge size and comfort. I am curious to know if your experience with the Alden’s in terms of fit and whether they are less comfortable. I wear a standard 10D if that has is a factor. Thanks for your time! Brad
I have been buying Allen Edmonds shoes at thrift stores for a while now. I have 4 pair 2 in brown and 2 black Park avenues and 5th avenues with brogue. I have a pair of loafers and just got a pair of in oxblood and black. I have had the loafers sole protected and will do the same with my oxblood pair. I think I have less then 200 dollars in them and that;s with the maintenance. I buy them and shine them and wear them. They are by far my most comfortable shoes. Thank you for the shoe shine videos by the way.
Im slowly transitioning from sneakers to menswear, and every bit of info about shoes helps in getting my first pair. Considering that my job doesnt require us to wear "business-ware" clothing, I dont really have a pair of dress shoes yet in my wardrobe. I do look forward to seeing these kinds of beauties in my closet over a couple of years. Truly mesmerizing! Also, subbed after watching this vid. Keep it up, good sir!
I like all 4 styles you showcased, very classic. I chose the Carlyle in Dark Chili because of the sleek look. I think the Park Avenue or Fifth Avenue in Black will be my next purchase. Very happy with my Carlyle's, love the feel of the leather sole too.
Another great video.......thoughts/recommendations on "weave" Strand versions? I noticed you don; 't have any videos showing any weave-type dress shoes.......thoughts?
Ready to buy my first AE shoe. The Strand in Dark Chili is the most beautiful shoe I’ve ever seen. Plan to wear it with jeans, and a linen blazer over a t-shirt ala Don Johnson Miami Vice. My idea of high style!
Hi Kirby, I’m curious what you recommend if one could only afford two pairs of dress shoes. Given one was a black oxford, what might be a good second choice? I’m soon to be 27, athletic, will get married in May, and I’ll likely be wearing these with blue/navy suits or grey trouser combinations. Style wise I’d choose between a double monk and a brogue of some kind. Color wise, I’d like medium brown, dark brown, or burgundy. Love the channel. Thanks so much.
I own a dark brown Park Avenue. It felt very nice and comfortable from the very first wear. The design looks a bit more rounded compared to shoes that I have from Carmina or Loding which look more contoured. One thing I feel about my PA is that the rubber on the heel seems to be softer compared to other shoes that I have. I have seen small stones stuck or pierced sometimes only on this shoes. I'm not sure if this is the case in general because may be AE uses softer rubber on purpose or if it is just the case with my shoe. But overall I'm very satisfied with the shoe itself esp. the color and soft shine I get after polishing.
That's awesome! Congratulations. If you take care of them, they'll last you for the rest of your life and only get better with age. The three most important things you can do: 1. Use shoe trees 2. Use a shoe horn 3. And polish them regularly with Saphir Shoe Polish! Every 3-5 years depending on how often you wear them, you'll need to get them resoled. But the Goodyear Welt construction allows this to be easily done either by AE through their recrafting program or a local cobbler.
I recently purchased 2 pairs of 5th Ave's, they are by far, the greatest pair of shoes I have ever owned.one pair with leather soles and the other with Danite. I am completely sold on the brand and the quality. Got them in sale and they fit and feel fantastic.
I found a nearly new appearing pair of AE Winhalls in my size at Goodwill for $12.95 a few days ago. I watched Kirby's polishing video and polished them (they didn't need it) and wore them for the first time yesterday at work. They were comfortable all day and looked good. My first pair of "good shoes". I've owned several expensive western boots over the years. These are just as good.
Enjoyed your video, it brings back memories of 35 years ago when I used to be a rag merchant, selling Hart and Corbin suits with Johnston and Murphy shoes but I would side order a pair of Alden. Since my clothing selling days, I went into blue collar employment and changed my foot wear to Russell Moccasins which is another great American shoe company, enough of reminiscing..the morale of the story is to buy once and save in the long run. The enjoyment factor far out weigh the initial investment! Thanks Again, Kirby..
I started out with a model no longer made called the ‘Stockbridge’. Easily the most comfortable dress shoes I ever owned. Still have them. Waiting on Preston at The Elegant Oxford to reply to me about restoring them ;) I bought Strands after that and loved them. The brogueing has split and they’re not salvageable sadly. I now have two pair of McCallisters in walnut and dark chili. Always get the danite sole as I wear these all the time and it’s just more comfortable than the thin leather sole.
What you said about keeping your shoes shined was really profound: If someone takes the time to make sure their shoes look presentable, they will probably invest time in other aspects of their life, i.e., their job.
I bought a pair of Allen Edmonds for $1.75 in GOODWILL and they still look like new, but I was wondering what you think about the shoe brand To Boot New York. Are they worth buying?
I have a pair of TBNY shoes because I didn't do my due diligence and would not recommend. The materials, construction, and comfort are all poor and I dont wear them because of that. Allen Edmonds and Carmina sound like a much better buy at this price option (AE is below with sales). I'm looking to replace my TBNY shoes will Carminas as I don't like AEs stylistically. Kirby's videos have me drolling over Gaziano & Girling but I don't think i can justify the cost yet.
Thanks so much for the information just started to watch your videos and now I have 8 pairs of Ellen Edmens and so many different brands italians like 80 pairs of shoes this is to addicted to have thank you for showing me how to dress up
Awesome Video! My favorite AE's: 1. Park Avenue in Burgundy Shell Cordovan (Gorgeous...) 2. Strands in Bourbon (Not sure why this color was discontinued!) 3. Hopkinson in Black (Miles ahead of the standard Park Avenue in quality & design. Worth the extra coin.)
Wow, you've got a pair in Cordovan! That's fantastic. It's such a great material. Just remember that Cordovan does require special treatment and that it's best to not use standard solvent-based shoe polishes on it. The reason is that since Cordovan is a membrane that is highly-compressed during the tanning process, the solvents can cause the fibers to expand when it penetrates the leather. The Saphir Cordovan Cream Polishes use a Neat's Footoil to condition the leather without causing the fibers to decompress.
Hi, Kirby. Great video, as usual! I simply can't stop thinking about these shoes, specially the Walnut Strand. Could you please tell me what is the name/number of the shade of brown on the Fifth Avenue? I know this video is a little bit old, but I hope you read this comment. Thank you.
Hi Kirby - always enjoy you videos - 1) how do you compare Allen Edmonds to Alden in terms of quality workmanship?, 2) I've always used heel taps to enable a longer lasting heel, but have seen some men wearing them under the toe - do you recommend both or either heel and toe taps?
Hi Kirby, nice video. I am interested in the Mcallister in ox blood. I plan to go to try it out but do you have recommendations for a similar shoe in high quality brand? I couldn't find a similar color in Carmina.
I think these days they call "brown" "coffee brown" although I am not sure if they really carry that through all their dress models consistently. I also saw "mahogany" as an option for at least a few, last time I was looking at their online store. Not arguing, just adding another next layer to what someone can expect when taking their own gander at AE's collection.
I have 4 pairs of Allen Edmonds and like them, I purchased a used pair of Church's and used your Presidential Shine video to get them looking great. I wanted to ask you if you ever have done a casual shoe video on Chukka boots, I would like to find something with a pebble grain leather or a football type leather in a dark blue, any ideas on where to find a pair? Keep up the great videos!
Great video, Thanks Kirby! A must watch for anyone interested in learning about the basics of dress shoe culture. The best use for these fancy upscale dress shoes is ballroom dancing! They work great on hardwood floors!
I have numerous pairs of AEs and until recently would have picked my McCallister's in cordovan as my favorites. However I picked up a pair of Firenze bit loafers in black and absolutely love them. Also, I found a pair of Longbranch boots in brown and am hoping the weather in Arizona cools off soon so I can really start wearing them.
I own 2 pairs of AE, Strand Brogue in Walnut, and Randolph Penny loafer in brown. Both pairs have been welcome additions to my sparse shoe collection. I previously had Beckett-Simmonon Fonseca boot and the Idrese Harvey/Chelsea. I would recommend any of these pairs and consider them to be quality constructions.
Thank you for a very well done video Sir. I have recently retired from a 21 year career in Law Enforcement and find myself in a new job where looking smart is the norm. I have the Park Avenue, the Fifth Avenue, and the McCallister that you speak of. Instead of a Strand, I went with a Strand Mok because I really wanted one pair that I could wear in bad weather. My question for you is in getting the Mok version how much does that downgrade a shoe in terms of "formalness"? Thank you.
That's a great video Kirby. I own a pair of black park avenues, and I'm looking to build a collection of these four classics. I was thinking of the following: park ave in black (which I own), 5th ave in brown or dark chili (more on that in a sec), strand in walnut and finally mcallister in oxblood. I'm having a hard time deciding between brown or dark chili for the 5th ave. What are your thoughts on that? On the collection idea overall? Cheers.
I love my Allen Edmonds and swear by them, even if they are getting less love on the internet. I've worn the Strand, McAllister, Randolph, and the Lake Shore Drive and they never disappoint.
Johnny this guy gives AEs so many backhanded compliments its like why did I even invest in these shoes. I personally feel the quality has indeed gone down a step or so, but for 400 dollars they are still the best buy for me.
@@ericday4505 It's funny you mentioned that, but I recently bought a pair of AE Sanford's from Ebay for around $50. It turns out that the pair I ordered have 5 eyelets, which AE stopped making by 2001, so really what I got was a 20 year-old pair of shoes that were in impeccable shape. In fact, these were noticeably better quality than the recent AE's that I purchased within the last 5-10 years. My local cobbler was ecstatic to see old-school stitching again. Yes, the QC that AE used to have has gone downhill over the last few years (I believe the lack of stable ownership may have something to do with that) and it sucks. I've been lucky that my recent purchases from the company are mainly defect-free but I've seen some real turds on Reddit and Styleforum. It's a shame.
AE are simply the best for me at least. I have big and sensitive feet, these seem to always fit and are easy for me to walk in. I need a 13 EEE, and I can find almost all their shoe lines in this size. They have the Carlyle line, which doesn't even have the cap toe strip at all. Perfect shoes for formal events. I'd rate them as a good first shoe over even the park avenue and fifth avenue lines. They are most used as my go to job interview shoes. AE also carries a nice line of Cordovan leather shoes. Not many shoe makes still make those!
Kirby, might you be doing a review on the AE Carlyle? I’m thinking about buying a pair. Do you think the can be worn formally? Black tie with a high shine?
As always, an excellent video Kirby. I have had some QC issues with Allen Edmonds of late and, as much as I love the idea of the American made shoe, I propose 3 other brands that I think give you more bang for the buck in the same range: Carmina ($40ish more), Carlos Santos ($50ish less expensive), and J Fitzpatrick. These brands at similar prices offer, IMO, sleeker profiles, the beveled waist, and a more elegant toe shape. Just one man's opinion, even though I own and enjoy AE.
I completely agree with you. Especially considering that one can now purchase Carmina direct from Spain, it's a pretty fantastic deal. J. Fitzpatrick also a very sleek brand and uses much nicer leathers than AE.
I just ordered the 5th Ave on their web site. They were discounted by more than 50% for Black Friday. If the reviews are accurate and the sizing is spot on; it's a score!
I’m a new AE customer and have a black Park Ave (dainite) arriving tomorrow and a black Randolph (dainite) coming from the custom shop in a few weeks. I will add more over time but what would be a good next shoe and color to add? I work in an investment bank but have been wearing more Wolf & Shepard knit shoes in the mix in this post covid world wear it feels like things have just become a bit more casual. When I’m in the office I would wear a suit if I had meetings, but usually just a mix of dress pants and chinos with button downs most of the time. These would mainly be for work unless I had something a bit more dressy going on during a weekend. My gut tells me a wingtip or strand in coffee or Chile but I’m terrible with fashion so wanted to ask here. That or another Randolph in the same colors that May get more weekend use too? Thank you, Mike
I wear Allen Edmonds exclusively. I have a couple of pair that are at least 15 years old, and with proper care will last another 10. I prefer AE not only because of the quality, but also because they are American made, and. I can always get my size (8EEE).
best to try them on (as with any shoes) to determine which last fits you best. i have a pair of the Strand's and they are amazing and gorgeous. however, they are not the perfect fit for me. i ordered them online as they were on a big clearance sale from Nordstroms and while they do fit, the shape isn't perfect. i still love them, they are a special shoe and nothing looks like them.
Yeah. If your boots get wet often, a Dainite would make a huge difference and help protect the shoe from moisture. I would also recommend waterproofing them with the Saphir Super Invulner. It doesn't contain any silicones and is safe to use on calfskin of even the finest quality. The Tarrago Nano Protector is an incredibly effective waterproofing spray, but is almost too good and not something I would ever advice for a pair of nice leather or suede shoes. The Saphir Super Invulner, on the other hand, is safe to use on fine shoes while still providing effective waterproofing.
I own 3 pairs of Allen Edmonds Strand shoes in black, chili and walnut. I just sent them in for resoling/V tread and hope to wear them for another decade.
@The Hanger Project, Kirby what are your thoughts on Allen Edmonds line of shoe creams & polishes? I know that Saphir is the best on the market but what do you think of the Allen Edmond brand?
blowfly3000 My own take: I’ve used them a lot and think they are solid. A step below the premier Saphir, but still quality. Stock up when they run a sale.
Hi Kirby I just picked up a pair of Allen Edmonds Manhatten Tacco comfort insoles at my thrift store for 29 canadian dollars what i want to know is what year did the manhattens come out and how much original price were they
As a former Allen Edmonds dealer I can tell you that the Park Avenue and McAllister were our top sellers for many, many years.
do you know what year they discontinued the Byron?
I found a pair of Allen Edmonds at a thrift store. They were beat up with holes in the bottoms. I paid 7 dollars for them because no one knew what they were. I paid 140 shipping included to have them refracted. That was 5 years ago and they still look brand new.
They are almost free on Poshmark ~ I've bought so many I'm getting pickey. Only Brogued boots and price less than $30. I'm diversifying into British Loake and Tricker.
LOL @ "last a decade or more"... I've had my Park Avenues for 17 years and they're better than ever. Soft, glove-like.... best shoes I own.
You can have a pair of Walmart Shoes for 100 years. It all depends on how many hours you wear them in that period and what you are doing in them. Saying a shoe can last decades does not provide any information whatsoever.
Even if worn every day for 20 years, one person could wear them for 8 hours sitting at an office and another could be walking in then for the full 8 hours.
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I concur here, except I've had my four pairs of AE's for 8 years or less. They handle Michigan's crazy weather like a breeze. I feel bad slowly expanding my rotation with some Carmina's that will be worn more.
I bought four pairs of Allen Edmonds shoes in California in the 1990s and I still have three of them today. Fantastic brand.
Thx for all you do Kirby - you have inspired me to do a much better job at dressing and taking the time to properly care for my garments and shoes. Huge difference in my life. I began watching your videos in February of this year, and wanted to look better. As a result, I have lost 82 pounds, feel fantastic and look great. All because I started watching. This is the influence you may not know you have on the folks that watch your videos. As a gift to myself, I purchased my first pair of CARMINA loafers. Not bespoke - but definitely very nice. Thx again for starting me on this journey. By the way, I’ve purchased a ton of shoe polish from your web store, along with shoe laces and horsehair brush. Love them!!
Allen Edmonds definitely offer a great shoe at the $400 price point. I prefer Carmina, and think their toe shapes are much stylish, but both are great options. Can't forget J. Fitzpatrick and the flair he adds to many classic styles (you have a great interview with him btw).
Another brand that I think offers great value and has beautifully made shoes is Cobbler Union - goodyear welted, beveled waists with a fiddleback, tight heels, lovely uppers, and very nice toe shapes. Definitely a brand worth looking into, but of course all of these are.
I have Strands and Macallisters. Both are on their second soles and heels which were done by a local craftsman whose work is excellent. Excellent shoes made of full grain leather. You can’t go wrong with them. Best advice is to make sure that the last the shoes were made on resemble your foot. A.E. Numbers the lasts and lists which shoes come from which last. The vary quite a bit from the long and sleek European shapes to the roomier American shaped lasts.
I adore my Allen Edmonds shoes. I own a pair of Strand, Bergamo, Walden, Park Avenue, Boston, Highway 1, and a pair of Dalton boots. Thank you Kirby for all the great videos.
Hi Daniel, I just bought my first pair of Edmonds black tassled loafers--'look just nice with black slacks..
I am a new customer myself..
Can't wait to wear my Edmonds patent leather shoes ! Just with tux trousers +casual jacket--go for a drive in .my Jeep or to the mall
I always thought it was the other way around; as in the more Broguing, the more formal. Hmm. I learn something new every day! Thank you, Sir.
I used to think this too. Apparently it’s a common misconception.
You most definitely had that backwards. Broguing, wingtips, etc are not formal. A brogued derby isn't fit for a black tie event, for example.
Edit: not an attack on you. Just making the point.
It does make them more awesome, however.
Along with the wide selection of sizes and widths available from Allen Edmonds, they can also custom-make a shoe for you if your foot happens to fall outside of the sizes available online and in-store. I recently purchased a pair of AE Park Avenues in a 6.5 EE online. After receiving the shoes, I discovered they were a bit loose. I took them to my local AE store where they examined my foot and shoe fit. Even their own measurements concluded that I was a 6.5 EE. However, they explained that the Park Avenue (as well as other shoes made with the same last) tends to run a half size to one full size large. They recommended a size 5.5 EE for me, which they do not offer normally, and said that they could custom-make the shoe for an additional charge of $40. I went ahead with the purchase, and a few weeks later I had my great-fitting shoes. Yes, I have small feet, as I am a pretty short guy.
Terrific video!
I now have two pairs of Allen Edmonds (Walnut Liverpool Chelseas, and Walnut single Monk Straps with Dainite Soles).
These are absolutely AMAZING boots / shoes. The style, craftsmanship, materials, fit and finish of this true American brand stands apart from anything else I own. Heirloom items, indeed.
Great respect to Allen Edmonds Custom Projects Manager, artisan, and friend, Big Steve 'Sudsy' Sudsbury!
I could not be more satisfied with my AE MacNeals, thank you for the video, I have learned a lot and just knowing more about the brand, the relevance and seeing the comments from other owners just adds more value. Thanks again!
Great! Thanks for sharing!
I bought Allen Edmonds Burton in 2008. 9 years walking to work in NYC. 3 sole replacements (1 was a recraft by AE factory). Took good care of the uppers and they still get compliments. Easily worth the cost.
I've got 4 pairs of AEs that I've either received as gifts or bought on clearance, and they are universally very comfortable. For my feet, my strands are by far the most comfortable pare of shoes I own.
My pair has lasted 40 years. They still look great and in style with my suits.
Really!?
Do you wear them regularly?
Kirby, thanks so much for going into a discussion on the rubber soles. I live in Chicago, and always thought flat leather bottom dress shoes should come with a helmet. Not to mention, they feel like a minimalist shoe walking on pavement and concrete, far from comfortable or common sense. Good to know that you aren't aghast at a rubber bottom, even if it didn't take an old man to craft it.
I love your videos. I have been a fan since the beginning. I like watching people do what I do. People always remark about my shoes. I can't get enough of that.
I worked with Italian shoe industry .Good to know still a shoe factory making a great product and people whose wearing and appreciates. Excellent video.
Actually bought my first pair of Allen Edmonds for my birthday a couple weeks ago, a pair of black Park Avenues. Very nice shoe, real step up from what I was wearing before.
I am a huge fan of the Clifton in Black, perfectly suited for both dressy and business occasions. Sadly, they are no longer made, however, due to the AE recrafting program, I know that mine will last for many years to come.
Awesome video! I have a pair of Allen Edmonds, Park Avenue. Great shoe...worth every penny!
Excellent video, very educational.
This video is by far one of the best reviews I've seen on TH-cam. I sincerely appreciate the information, and I will definitely take it into consideration.
Much Respect,
Mike
Really glad I found the Hanger Project. Love the content!
Having just received a pair of Allen Edmonds MacNeil 2 (factory seconds) barely worn once or twice which I bought via eBay, I just discovered this video and The Hangar Project. I paid $80 for them, and was concerned about some of the photos the seller posted showing finish and stitching flaws. I reasoned, if I really didn't like them, I could probably sell them for the same amount or even more (the seller hadn't done a very good job of presenting and selling on eBay).
In person, I'm delighted! Imperfections in the sole edge finish were covered and perfected with one coat of Fiebing's dye. Hydrating with mink oil, cream, and shining (as you instruct in your How to Shine Allen Edmonds Shoes video -- THANKS!), the blemishes are almost impossible to find, and will disappear further with use, time, and shining. These imperfections are very manageable with just a little effort and knowledge. Only careful scrutiny of the shoes would discover them. On the other hand, these factory seconds have full leather soles -- I prefer the Danite soles for all weather, frequen NYC walking.
Nonetheless, $80 for almost perfect Allen Edmond's is not just a deal, it's a steal! Loving my two other AE first quality pairs of shoes, Firenze Italian loafers and Globetrotters, for the past six years, getting a new job in insurance, it was time to step up to something dressier. Now that I've experienced AE Factory Seconds, I'm definitely open to paying $195 to AE for seconds, and when they've done their job (and I've done more of mine), full price for first quality!
I think their Cornwallis is their best style, very minimal lace up oxford with minimal broguing and medallion, it can be worn in place of a typical formal cap toe which I’ve always found to be tacky, I prefer the look of a wholecut oxford, but the discreet medallion makes it just as formal of a shoe, suitable for everything other than black tie.
Have you done a video on the Carlyle? I’ve got two pair of McAllisters (dark chili and burgundy) that I love. I’m thinking of a Carlyle in Walnut for my next pair of AE’s.
Wonderful video! I love how you focus on the quality and features of the AE shoe. I’ve normally purchased Ecco due to comfort, and will certainly be looking into AE this December.
More great videos coming about AE...
Great informative video I appreciate the story you shared about your friend and his mentor indeed a life lesson well learned look forward to future video on AE shoes!
Back in the 90’s, I finished college late in life and had an opportunity to work for a computer consulting company. I didn’t have much, but I needed to buy some suits and some dress shoes. As luck would have it for me, a local shoe store was going out of business and I was able to get some great deals on several pairs of shoes. The guy convinced me to spend the extra money and buy Allen Edmonds shoes and I did. I can honestly say that the Allen Edmonds shoes that I bought were not only well made, unlike other dress shoes that I’ve owned in the past they got more comfortable throughout the day. Seriously. Those leather lined Allen Edmonds shoes just seemed to mold to my feet. I worked very long hours at my new job but my feet always felt great.
When it comes to your feet, always buy quality. You will never regret it. Your feet are your foundation.
The Park Ave. in black was the very first pair of Allen Edmonds that I purchased; I liked them so much that I got the Strands in walnut followed by the Cornwallis in dark chili. My latest acquisition is the Weymouth II wholecuts in dark brown from Crockett and Jones which have since become my favorite pair of shoes!
That's a nice collection!
I would say the AE Verona II Italian horse bit loafer is an excellent shoe for the money. They are extremely comfortable to wear as an every day work shoe due to their soft calfskin & flexible leather outsole. With 3 colors available and a $350 price point it's a great value for an Italian made shoe.
Great video! My first proper pair was an Allen Edmonds McTavish in chili color (no longer available). I am sending them in for recrafting! I have since purchased Alden. Big difference in comfort but equal craftmanship and quality. I highly recommend both. Thanks again for the video.
Jose,
I just purchased my first pair of AE shoes (Dalton Boot) and thought they fit me well and were true to size. I have seen some Alden shoes online that interest me, but there is no store in my area to judge size and comfort. I am curious to know if your experience with the Alden’s in terms of fit and whether they are less comfortable. I wear a standard 10D if that has is a factor.
Thanks for your time!
Brad
I have been buying Allen Edmonds shoes at thrift stores for a while now. I have 4 pair 2 in brown and 2 black Park avenues and 5th avenues with brogue. I have a pair of loafers and just got a pair of in oxblood and black. I have had the loafers sole protected and will do the same with my oxblood pair. I think I have less then 200 dollars in them and that;s with the maintenance. I buy them and shine them and wear them. They are by far my most comfortable shoes. Thank you for the shoe shine videos by the way.
I love my Allen Edmonds! I have black and a merlot wingtip “Jefferson” and a Fifth Avenue in Oxblood. Along with a penny loafer and a suede brogue
I have four pairs! Excellent shoes. High quality, comfortable, and timeless.
Great video!
Im slowly transitioning from sneakers to menswear, and every bit of info about shoes helps in getting my first pair.
Considering that my job doesnt require us to wear "business-ware" clothing, I dont really have a pair of dress shoes yet in my wardrobe. I do look forward to seeing these kinds of beauties in my closet over a couple of years. Truly mesmerizing!
Also, subbed after watching this vid. Keep it up, good sir!
Maybe you can get a pair of AE loafers to start out with. They're casual enough to wear almost anywhere
I know this is years beyond but a nice pair of boots is less formal than shoes but is definitely a step up from sneakers.
I like all 4 styles you showcased, very classic. I chose the Carlyle in Dark Chili because of the sleek look. I think the Park Avenue or Fifth Avenue in Black will be my next purchase. Very happy with my Carlyle's, love the feel of the leather sole too.
Awesome! Thanks for sharing! -Kirby
Great explanation of the formal to casual continuum. Thanks
Another great video.......thoughts/recommendations on "weave" Strand versions? I noticed you don; 't have any videos showing any weave-type dress shoes.......thoughts?
Ready to buy my first AE shoe. The Strand in Dark Chili is the most beautiful shoe I’ve ever seen. Plan to wear it with jeans, and a linen blazer over a t-shirt ala Don Johnson Miami Vice. My idea of high style!
maybe buy brown shoes
A lot of great advice! Very informative video - thank you!
Hi Kirby,
I’m curious what you recommend if one could only afford two pairs of dress shoes. Given one was a black oxford, what might be a good second choice? I’m soon to be 27, athletic, will get married in May, and I’ll likely be wearing these with blue/navy suits or grey trouser combinations. Style wise I’d choose between a double monk and a brogue of some kind. Color wise, I’d like medium brown, dark brown, or burgundy.
Love the channel. Thanks so much.
I own a dark brown Park Avenue. It felt very nice and comfortable from the very first wear. The design looks a bit more rounded compared to shoes that I have from Carmina or Loding which look more contoured. One thing I feel about my PA is that the rubber on the heel seems to be softer compared to other shoes that I have. I have seen small stones stuck or pierced sometimes only on this shoes. I'm not sure if this is the case in general because may be AE uses softer rubber on purpose or if it is just the case with my shoe. But overall I'm very satisfied with the shoe itself esp. the color and soft shine I get after polishing.
Just bought 3 Saphir items from you shop. Shined 6 pairs of Thursday shoes. This stuff is awesome and totally worth it
Just purchased my first pair of Allen Edmonds shoes because of your videos. Thank you!!!!
That's awesome! Congratulations. If you take care of them, they'll last you for the rest of your life and only get better with age. The three most important things you can do:
1. Use shoe trees
2. Use a shoe horn
3. And polish them regularly with Saphir Shoe Polish!
Every 3-5 years depending on how often you wear them, you'll need to get them resoled. But the Goodyear Welt construction allows this to be easily done either by AE through their recrafting program or a local cobbler.
I recently purchased 2 pairs of 5th Ave's, they are by far, the greatest pair of shoes I have ever owned.one pair with leather soles and the other with Danite. I am completely sold on the brand and the quality. Got them in sale and they fit and feel fantastic.
I found a nearly new appearing pair of AE Winhalls in my size at Goodwill for $12.95 a few days ago. I watched Kirby's polishing video and polished them (they didn't need it) and wore them for the first time yesterday at work. They were comfortable all day and looked good. My first pair of "good shoes". I've owned several expensive western boots over the years. These are just as good.
Great time to get my first AE park avenue(black)...
Rediscover America sales start today October 1st to 21st
A classic the McNeal by AE, is probably the greatest dress shoe ever made.
First pair of Allen Edmunds was a pair of Carlyles in Walnut. Love them.
Enjoyed your video, it brings back memories of 35 years ago when I used to be a rag merchant, selling Hart and Corbin suits with Johnston and Murphy shoes but I would side order a pair of Alden. Since my clothing selling days, I went into blue collar employment and changed my foot wear to Russell Moccasins which is another great American shoe company, enough of reminiscing..the morale of the story is to buy once and save in the long run. The enjoyment factor far out weigh the initial investment! Thanks Again, Kirby..
Great video! With there being many browns now, what color of AE brown do you recommend for first pair of 5th Avenues?
I started out with a model no longer made called the ‘Stockbridge’. Easily the most comfortable dress shoes I ever owned. Still have them. Waiting on Preston at The Elegant Oxford to reply to me about restoring them ;) I bought Strands after that and loved them. The brogueing has split and they’re not salvageable sadly. I now have two pair of McCallisters in walnut and dark chili. Always get the danite sole as I wear these all the time and it’s just more comfortable than the thin leather sole.
What you said about keeping your shoes shined was really profound: If someone takes the time to make sure their shoes look presentable, they will probably invest time in other aspects of their life, i.e., their job.
I bought a pair of Allen Edmonds for $1.75 in GOODWILL and they still look like new, but I was wondering what you think about the shoe brand To Boot New York. Are they worth buying?
I have a pair of TBNY shoes because I didn't do my due diligence and would not recommend. The materials, construction, and comfort are all poor and I dont wear them because of that.
Allen Edmonds and Carmina sound like a much better buy at this price option (AE is below with sales). I'm looking to replace my TBNY shoes will Carminas as I don't like AEs stylistically. Kirby's videos have me drolling over Gaziano & Girling but I don't think i can justify the cost yet.
A perfect video. A question please.
Do you recommend Allen Edmond more than English similar priced shoes like Crockett & Jones or Cheney & Sons
Jacob Kauffman when will the update on the fifth ave that you abused be uploaded? I am eager to see how they held up! Thank you + great channel!
Hey great breakdown Kirby was the fifth ave in coffee brown ?
Splendid !!!! Without words, my favorite channel...thanks a lotta for your advice
Thanks so much for the information just started to watch your videos and now I have 8 pairs of Ellen Edmens and so many different brands italians like 80 pairs of shoes this is to addicted to have thank you for showing me how to dress up
Awesome Video! My favorite AE's:
1. Park Avenue in Burgundy Shell Cordovan (Gorgeous...)
2. Strands in Bourbon (Not sure why this color was discontinued!)
3. Hopkinson in Black (Miles ahead of the standard Park Avenue in quality & design. Worth the extra coin.)
Wow, you've got a pair in Cordovan! That's fantastic. It's such a great material. Just remember that Cordovan does require special treatment and that it's best to not use standard solvent-based shoe polishes on it. The reason is that since Cordovan is a membrane that is highly-compressed during the tanning process, the solvents can cause the fibers to expand when it penetrates the leather. The Saphir Cordovan Cream Polishes use a Neat's Footoil to condition the leather without causing the fibers to decompress.
Thanks for the tips at the end. You’re a cool guy Kirby 🙏👊
makochild /// ok thanks
Hi, Kirby. Great video, as usual! I simply can't stop thinking about these shoes, specially the Walnut Strand. Could you please tell me what is the name/number of the shade of brown on the Fifth Avenue? I know this video is a little bit old, but I hope you read this comment. Thank you.
Hi Kirby - always enjoy you videos - 1) how do you compare Allen Edmonds to Alden in terms of quality workmanship?, 2) I've always used heel taps to enable a longer lasting heel, but have seen some men wearing them under the toe - do you recommend both or either heel and toe taps?
Great video. If we buy used allen edmonds on ebay, are they eligible for the 150 warranty to reconstruct?
This is incredibly comprehensive - I was on the fence but I think you've sold me on a pair!! thank you!!
Great! You won't regret it!
Hi Kirby, nice video. I am interested in the Mcallister in ox blood. I plan to go to try it out but do you have recommendations for a similar shoe in high quality brand? I couldn't find a similar color in Carmina.
I think these days they call "brown" "coffee brown" although I am not sure if they really carry that through all their dress models consistently. I also saw "mahogany" as an option for at least a few, last time I was looking at their online store. Not arguing, just adding another next layer to what someone can expect when taking their own gander at AE's collection.
I have 4 pairs of Allen Edmonds and like them, I purchased a used pair of Church's and used your Presidential Shine video to get them looking great. I wanted to ask you if you ever have done a casual shoe video on Chukka boots, I would like to find something with a pebble grain leather or a football type leather in a dark blue, any ideas on where to find a pair? Keep up the great videos!
You should do a video of your shoes :-)
Great video, Thanks Kirby! A must watch for anyone interested in learning about the basics of dress shoe culture. The best use for these fancy upscale dress shoes is ballroom dancing! They work great on hardwood floors!
Indeed!
What's your preference. Many thanks
I love my Allen Edmonds. Classy current and stylish.
Would a black wingtip oxford be formal enough for a groom to wear with a charcoal suit for a daytime outdoor autumn wedding in your opinion?
I have numerous pairs of AEs and until recently would have picked my McCallister's in cordovan as my favorites. However I picked up a pair of Firenze bit loafers in black and absolutely love them. Also, I found a pair of Longbranch boots in brown and am hoping the weather in Arizona cools off soon so I can really start wearing them.
Thanks for sharing! The cordovan shoes must be incredible. Check out our Cordovan Care video!
I own about 6 pairs of AEs. My two favorite are mcallisters and strand. My next purchase will be probably be the park avenues.
I own 2 pairs of AE, Strand Brogue in Walnut, and Randolph Penny loafer in brown. Both pairs have been welcome additions to my sparse shoe collection. I previously had Beckett-Simmonon Fonseca boot and the Idrese Harvey/Chelsea. I would recommend any of these pairs and consider them to be quality constructions.
The Walnut Strand is great with a pair of blue jeans. Thank you for sharing
@@Alandale45 That is EXACTLY how I wear them 👍
Thank you for a very well done video Sir. I have recently retired from a 21 year career in Law Enforcement and find myself in a new job where looking smart is the norm. I have the Park Avenue, the Fifth Avenue, and the McCallister that you speak of. Instead of a Strand, I went with a Strand Mok because I really wanted one pair that I could wear in bad weather. My question for you is in getting the Mok version how much does that downgrade a shoe in terms of "formalness"? Thank you.
That's a great video Kirby. I own a pair of black park avenues, and I'm looking to build a collection of these four classics. I was thinking of the following: park ave in black (which I own), 5th ave in brown or dark chili (more on that in a sec), strand in walnut and finally mcallister in oxblood. I'm having a hard time deciding between brown or dark chili for the 5th ave. What are your thoughts on that? On the collection idea overall? Cheers.
I love my Allen Edmonds and swear by them, even if they are getting less love on the internet. I've worn the Strand, McAllister, Randolph, and the Lake Shore Drive and they never disappoint.
Johnny this guy gives AEs so many backhanded compliments its like why did I even invest in these shoes. I personally feel the quality has indeed gone down a step or so, but for 400 dollars they are still the best buy for me.
@@ericday4505 It's funny you mentioned that, but I recently bought a pair of AE Sanford's from Ebay for around $50. It turns out that the pair I ordered have 5 eyelets, which AE stopped making by 2001, so really what I got was a 20 year-old pair of shoes that were in impeccable shape. In fact, these were noticeably better quality than the recent AE's that I purchased within the last 5-10 years. My local cobbler was ecstatic to see old-school stitching again.
Yes, the QC that AE used to have has gone downhill over the last few years (I believe the lack of stable ownership may have something to do with that) and it sucks. I've been lucky that my recent purchases from the company are mainly defect-free but I've seen some real turds on Reddit and Styleforum. It's a shame.
AE are simply the best for me at least. I have big and sensitive feet, these seem to always fit and are easy for me to walk in. I need a 13 EEE, and I can find almost all their shoe lines in this size. They have the Carlyle line, which doesn't even have the cap toe strip at all. Perfect shoes for formal events. I'd rate them as a good first shoe over even the park avenue and fifth avenue lines. They are most used as my go to job interview shoes. AE also carries a nice line of Cordovan leather shoes. Not many shoe makes still make those!
I've never understood the hype for the PA and 5A shoes. To me, they are just too blobby. The Carlyle is a great shoe, however.
Thank you excellent . I’m trying to make up my mind on Strand or Bartlett , how they wear differently , will not wear them much .
Just found a pair of Clifton and a pair of Chester's for $10 each. In great shape. Just a little dusty. Love them.
Great and very informative video! I'm sold! I'll be purchasing Allen Edmonds for my shoes collections! Thanks!
My dad has Allen Edmund's shoes. He has had them for 6 years now and still wears them.
Kirby, might you be doing a review on the AE Carlyle? I’m thinking about buying a pair. Do you think the can be worn formally? Black tie with a high shine?
As always, an excellent video Kirby. I have had some QC issues with Allen Edmonds of late and, as much as I love the idea of the American made shoe, I propose 3 other brands that I think give you more bang for the buck in the same range: Carmina ($40ish more), Carlos Santos ($50ish less expensive), and J Fitzpatrick. These brands at similar prices offer, IMO, sleeker profiles, the beveled waist, and a more elegant toe shape. Just one man's opinion, even though I own and enjoy AE.
I completely agree with you. Especially considering that one can now purchase Carmina direct from Spain, it's a pretty fantastic deal. J. Fitzpatrick also a very sleek brand and uses much nicer leathers than AE.
Very good thank you . Are they all the same shape around the toe ? I prefer something not as pointy , is there one you would point out ??
I just ordered the 5th Ave on their web site. They were discounted by more than 50% for Black Friday. If the reviews are accurate and the sizing is spot on; it's a score!
I’m a new AE customer and have a black Park Ave (dainite) arriving tomorrow and a black Randolph (dainite) coming from the custom shop in a few weeks. I will add more over time but what would be a good next shoe and color to add? I work in an investment bank but have been wearing more Wolf & Shepard knit shoes in the mix in this post covid world wear it feels like things have just become a bit more casual. When I’m in the office I would wear a suit if I had meetings, but usually just a mix of dress pants and chinos with button downs most of the time.
These would mainly be for work unless I had something a bit more dressy going on during a weekend.
My gut tells me a wingtip or strand in coffee or Chile but I’m terrible with fashion so wanted to ask here. That or another Randolph in the same colors that May get more weekend use too?
Thank you,
Mike
I wear Allen Edmonds exclusively. I have a couple of pair that are at least 15 years old, and with proper care will last another 10. I prefer AE not only because of the quality, but also because they are American made, and. I can always get my size (8EEE).
That six eyelet design really makes the shoe complete and finished.
best to try them on (as with any shoes) to determine which last fits you best. i have a pair of the Strand's and they are amazing and gorgeous. however, they are not the perfect fit for me. i ordered them online as they were on a big clearance sale from Nordstroms and while they do fit, the shape isn't perfect. i still love them, they are a special shoe and nothing looks like them.
need help in deciding between following Fifth Avenue Cap-Toe Oxford, McGregor Wingtips and Bond Street Cap-Toe Oxford
I love my Allen Edmonds Stradmonks
I work PDX, I use an over boot during the wet season. I'm currently looking to get a boot with a danite sole.
Yeah. If your boots get wet often, a Dainite would make a huge difference and help protect the shoe from moisture. I would also recommend waterproofing them with the Saphir Super Invulner. It doesn't contain any silicones and is safe to use on calfskin of even the finest quality.
The Tarrago Nano Protector is an incredibly effective waterproofing spray, but is almost too good and not something I would ever advice for a pair of nice leather or suede shoes. The Saphir Super Invulner, on the other hand, is safe to use on fine shoes while still providing effective waterproofing.
nice review i just purchased Strand Cap-toe Oxford in black my first pair expensive footwear
Question:
Which one should I do? resole the worn out leather soles / put em with rubber pad?
I own 3 pairs of Allen Edmonds Strand shoes in black, chili and walnut. I just sent them in for resoling/V tread and hope to wear them for another decade.
Ah made in the usa ! My husband will appreciate this gift 😍 .. k continue watching.. just 2 minutes and I'm already commenting 😅🤦🏻♀️😁
Allen Edmonds are really good. He should be happy with them.
@The Hanger Project, Kirby what are your thoughts on Allen Edmonds line of shoe creams & polishes? I know that Saphir is the best on the market but what do you think of the Allen Edmond brand?
blowfly3000 My own take: I’ve used them a lot and think they are solid. A step below the premier Saphir, but still quality. Stock up when they run a sale.
Hi Kirby I just picked up a pair of Allen Edmonds Manhatten Tacco comfort insoles at my thrift store for 29 canadian dollars what i want to know is what year did the manhattens come out and how much original price were they