Any updates on new stadium at Oakland? That ocean front one been delayed again? I think last time I checked it was to be built by 2023 but I bet Covid has changed that.
Stretch501st they haven’t started yet as they need to find more funding. The team owners have decided not to try to get the city to fund it because whenever the government builds a stadium their are more regulations.
@@TysonIke I have never been a fan of multi billion dollar sports teams getting taxpayers money to fund stadiums. Low-interest bonds is one thing, but actually subsidies are a slap in the face to taxpayers. The designs for it look amazing though if they find the investors. I’m sure they will after things get back to normal.
Comiskey could have been better designed from the beginning. That said, every renovation done since has been for the better. It's a much better stadium than it was when it opened.
@@bryan89wr i haven't been there but people really seem to like what green bay did. Like he said in the video, the other improvements to progressive field are wonderful and they did a nice job on Rocket Mortgage Fieldhouse as well.
The renovations are not semetrical which makes the stadium less cool. The stadium never had a good looking exterior so I think that they should have made the boxes above the seats. Or they should have done nothing and made the stadium a public park. Why does a stadium for college football and the Olympic’s need so many boxes anyways.
Problem with that stadium is its just too damn big, i mean they cant even use the one end of the bowl bc its too far away, the rennovation was basically just tripling the size of the press box and luxury seating and leaving the rest the same.
@@forgottenplaces9780 They just need to take out the bleacher seating, that the band sit and have it the way it was, when the Raiders played there but without the track.
I remember when they were building Mt Davis. The construction actually went on during A’s games to be ready for the start of the 96 season. Not only did it destroy the look of what was a reasonably decent baseball venue at the time but it’s ugly with a capital U. A big concrete monolith with seats ridiculously far from the field.
Yep, I remember the first 6 home game for the A's were played here in Vegas at their AAA baseball field. It was memorable for locals to have major league games in Vegas.
I remember watching that they had opened against the Blue Jays in Vegas the Jays just got Roger Clemons and Jose Canseco, a couple of years later Vegas became the Jays triple A team
Yeah, I clicked on this to see where SF was going to be on the top 5. To my surprise it's not even on the list. They take a stadium and cause it to lose it's register as a historic landmark. Need I say more.
Before the Sox built that “wall” as you call it it was just steep rows of upper deck seats that hung over the side. The seats sucked as they were so far from the action. So they lobbed off 10 or so rows and put on a roof. It looks much better than before. It was a good renovation.
fedex field took out over 20 thousands seats from the upper deck, do a video on nascar tracks having to decrease hugeee amount of seats for example dover international speedway had over 160,000 seats in 2002 and today its down to just 60 thousand... thats insannnneeeeee,,,,, love your content keep it up :)
@@justinwarthenRavens owner Steve Bisciotti has invested $150 million, now there are banks of escalators to all levels. He signed a 15 year extension with a 5 year option to renew. He says he might downsize it. A new stadium for the Commaders is on hold until the NFL owner approve the new Josh Harris ownership group.
Idk, if there was a huge outside demand for a team from other cities the league probably wouldve expanded to 32 by now, dont forget the league almost contracted 20 years ago, I think theres really only maybe 2 or 3 cities that make much sense nashville which seems most practical the as arent even considering
Olympic Stadium has been a disaster on other levels too. It wasn’t completely finished when the Olympics opened in 1976 and Montreal can’t demolish it because they integrated it into the city’s subway system. But it does have a place in rock history, Pink Floyd performed the final show of their 1977 tour there, and the outside tower was immortalized on The Wall album
First off, great name! I took my father to a weekend series there against the tribe in 2018 and we absolutely loved it. From the staff to other fans couldn't have been nicer to us out-of-towners. I especially loved the brewery down the third base line. We took in all three games and sat in different seats for each. In my opinion, for the money, the left field bleachers are great!
I will admit Comiskey Park (and I will always call it that, I don't care what anybody else says) has been greatly improved from when it first opened back in 1991. Still not great I don't think, but at least acceptable
've been on that upper concourse and it does get windy. Trash blowing around, hats blowing off, rain pelting in. Those baffles definitely serve a purpose. As for the view GR is quite a ways from down town so there's not much to see outside anyway. Agree with others, the Park has improved quite a bit since 91.
I remember how steep the old upper deck was when it first opened. Removing those rows helped a lot. Also going from the blue to the green seats was an improvement as well.
Here's some first-hand knowledge from a lifelong White Sox hand. You got the first one wrong. Believe it or not, the modifications at New Comiskey Park are an improvement! Yes, the glass wall should be more transparent and provide views of the city, you're correct about that, however, the original upper deck was HATED. It was designed to provide unobstructed views but It was too large and too steep. The exits you mention were also part of the problem because they were so far from the many of the upper deck seats. It was commonly known, that people were afraid to walk up (or down) that upper deck incline for such a distance. Nobody wanted to sit up there. Hence, the modification and improvement.
You should do a video on the Cincinnati Gardens, old stadium built to try and draw an NHL team to Cincinnati and also hosted the Royals in the 70s for a few years. It was demolished a few years back
I was at the last ever Mighty Ducks game at the Gardens. I swung by and took a whole bunch of pictures after the Robinsons sold but before the Port Authority tore it down.
Yeah, I was totally hopeful that the cinderblocks at Progressive Field would have been some sort of party decks, like a low-budget suite. Instead they're just...weird.
Surprised you didn't include Soldier Field's botched renovation. Went from being one of the most iconic stadiums in the NFL, to being taken off the National Historic Landmark registry. Doesn't help that it looks like a spaceship landed inside it.
Not gonna say the "worst", but the stadium modifications for Russia World Cup, where they increased the seating capacity, was kinda scary. When people jumped (or even walked), the whole structure shook as if it was coming down!
As a White Sox fan I’m gonna say I think your dead wrong about our park I know we don’t have the best stadium in the league but I never understand why it’s so poorly rated, especially since all the renovations we’ve done through the years
What Coors Field did in upper right field is perfect I am partial season ticket holder love going to Rooftop deck Progressive Field should have done that 😐
Before New Comiskey was built the White Sox were threating to move, so the city caved and built them a massive and expensive new stadium. Then it got bad reviews and the city went year after year paying for massive expensive renovations. And now the White Sox still get bad attendance and its still rated as one of the worst ballparks lol.
White sox park was a victim of changing times and a need for a new stadium, a very bad combo for anyone at that time, while I have been to both versions of the stadium, pre renovations and post, I must say that the newer renovations have made the stadium much better
@@hotredboy84 yeah, the renovation really did the justice to the stadium (the name still sucks tho, should be New Comiskey or Comiskey II). There should be a list of stadiums built at the wrong time like Fedex, Trop, Georgia Dome, old Charlotte Coliseum, Alamodome etc.
@@musyarofah1 yeah some people around here still call it comiskey Park or the cell, I find myself saying both sometimes or white sox park lol at some point all three names were correct 😆
Ok man, to be honest, the Guaranteed Rate Field glass thing isn't even close to the biggest issue in chicago stadiums. Soldier field (host's the bears) got this weird renovation in 2002-03 to it's classic beautiful neoclassical architecture, and put a massive glass thing on top, its ugly, its horrific, it looks like a spaceship crashed into it, and its one of the worse things right by lake michigan. I'd suggest for future video's you do a bit more research.
@@forgottenplaces9780 Also, as i'm thinking about this, i'd suggest you do a video on all of chicago's major stadiums (well one stadium, one video) because the history of a lot of them are quite interesting. Like the united center has the blackhawks and the bulls, and before hand they had "Chicago Stadium" which was one of the most interesting stadiums out there. Also after the 2016 win from the Cubs in the world series, the owners got super greedy, built hotels, and more, and the entire wrigley field area kind of lost it's charm. And finally maybe (if you want to) the Chicago fire stadium situation, which is a interesting topic to research.
I remember when I was a kid that new Comiskey Park wasn't well received, but the renovations really do make it an enjoyable ballpark. I would like the Sox next stadium to be an updated modern jewel box on the site of the old ballpark. I saw a design that wasn't chosen but it would be good in land starved Chicago. I'm sure once the Bears build their new Arlington Park stadium that the Sox, Bulls and Blackhawks are going to want new stadiums, as its been 30 years already.
Believe me, as an-Ex Oakland Raider fan, trust me, it won't be long before the Raiders realize "Oh, crap... We have to go back to Oakland..." Because for those that remember Al Davis, thought that it would be the best idea since sliced bread to move the Raiders to LA, and he ended up admitting that it was a mistake. BIG TIME.. but I hope there's a brand new stadium built for you all... #RIPAL #CommitmentToExellence #JustWinBaby
the coliseum never had a shot at becoming a classic, iconic ballpark no matter what. at its core, it's always been just another circular cookie cutter bowl with all that comes attached to that: seats far far away from the action, acres of foul ground, boring symmetry in both the look of the stands and the field dimensions leading to a distant, not intimate, feel of the game and an overall lack of personality. mt davis didn't cause those problems. the universally agreed standards and ideas in regards to stadium building of the 60s and 70s simply created generally horrible baseball venues. now of course, the coliseum is or was still much better than the truly terrible generic domes and donuts that sprung up everywhere else, but it was still destined to fail bc of when it was built.
@@forgottenplaces9780 the seats are against that wall. There’s no space behind the seats. As for the actual concourse, there are concession stands on both sides of the aisle. You can only see the skyline if you step out toward the down ramps. Plus plus, the wall blocks the wind, too. The better argument would be, why doesn’t Sox Park face the skyline?? That would be sweet.
@@forgottenplaces9780 The Concourse in that stadium isn’t where you said, it’s at the base of the upper deck, which is why all of the entry points to seats are there. That wall that was put up literally sits behind the furthest (top) row of seats and operates as a part of the roof. There are upper and lower concourses at GR Field.
EXCELLENT, my friend. My God, who was responsible for that absolutely HIDEOUS architectural modification done to Fedexfield in Washington DC?! An infant could design something better than that...
That was a great piece, my friend, EXCELLENT comments and work. I totally agree with all your points. It really makes one question how these renovations got approved. So wrong and ugly. Particularly, FedEx Field in Washington, D.C. And how could they destroy Jacob's Field in Cleveland like that?! What a beautiful stadium until those mindless crap in right field. You voice is also calm and soothing...conversational. great job, my friend.
The shipping containers are NOT concrete. That would imply that they are permanent. They are “temporary” metal/fiberglass structures that were meant as placeholders until they figure out what to do next. Original plan was something like Coors, but funding fell through.
No there concrete, at least on the top where you stand anyway (i have stood on them several times) i think they may be solid on the inside too as i remember seeing photos of rebar during construction, the panels on the front are metal but just thin sheet metal, i dont believe that rumor about them taking them down, they were built to stay, unless they had some major surge in attendance which wont happen.
At Guaranteed Rate, that wall protects fans in the nosebleeds from rain and wind. With weather being so unpredictable in Chicago, it's definitely nice for fans sitting up there.
Don't you mean opaque glass for Guaranteed Rate Field? Instead of transparent? You even mentioned that people can't see out into the city when they are on the concourse
Another bad stadium modification was probably before your time. In 1979, they converted Angel Stadium from a baseball-only stadium to a dual-use facility when the Rams moved out of the Coliseum. They enclosed the entire perimeter and added these roll-out bleachers for football games. It went from being a decent baseball stadium to a bad stadium for both sports, with bad sight lines and no personality. They converted it back to baseball-only after the Rams moved to St. Louis and Disney bought the Angels.
I have an idea that ugly additional translucent wall thingy at the White Sox' stadium was put there for only one reason, helping keep the sun out of players' eyes.
Regarding the renovations made to the right field upper deck at the Jake, the team could have used the blueprint set up by the Cardinals in the mid 90’s when they converted the center field upper deck at old Busch Stadium into an area showcasing their pennants and retired numbers. IIRC, the conversion was made so the displays did not require the removal of seats. Aesthetically, the upper deck looked great and it was probably the best of all cookie cutter stadiums.
The white Sox stadium is like that because the seats would go on even longer but they got rid of about 8 rows and put those translucent windows because the sun glare was bad but you wouldn't even see the city at all. - a Chicagoan
speaking of chicago a lot of those stadiums started to put those in for wind protection as if those barriers are not up it creates a wind tunnel affect in the concourse tunnels
"Guaranteed Rate Field"--also is the worst name for a baseball stadium. Olympic Stadium--I went there once to see the Expos play. It was like watching baseball in a shopping mall.
Ah yes, "The Big Owe" in Montreal...and people are *still* waiting for that man to have a baby. (At the time Montreal's mayor claimed that the Montreal Games could not possibly have a cost overrun as a man could not have a baby.) The roof wasn't completed for the games in '76, so the stadium was partially open-air. At one point, it rained so heavily that the flame was put out. Legend has it that some guy offered to relight it with his Bic lighter, but they used the flame from one of the lanterns that was still lit to relight it. But hey, at least you can enter the stadium right from the Montreal Metro.
I'm not sure if you've done a vid on this but awhile back the Orange bowl got upgraded and turned into camping world stadium but honestly I'm not sure if I like as much as I like the orange bowl. I feel like the orange bowl even though it looks much nicer it kinda got done dirty.
I took my kids to the top of the Jake( I refuse to call it progressive field) and I couldn't believe that shit! My kids asked me what they were, and I had no idea. Got some cool pics though
The seats that the now-Commanders should've removed first to remove first from Fedex Field were the lower bowl seats underneath the second decks' overhang as well as the first few rows of the lower bowl.
I had no idea the file cabinets in Cleveland had nothing to them. So many other stadiums did similar things well, like the Rockies did with the Rooftop.
The modification at Guaranteed Rate is better than what was there before so disagree with that one. Most Sox fans would agree...worst mistake was making that field face away from the downtown skyline
The modified roof at G-Rate Field does not wrap all around the stadium. It was done to remove the rows high in the back and extend the roof further over the stands.
Jack Murphy Stadium/Qualcomm Stadium in San Diego should be on here. It was a beautiful stadium until it was enclosed in 1997. The view of the hills on the east side was lost, and it was just way too big. Some of those upper deck seats were never used, and you couldn't even really see the endzones or the scoreboard from the upper east deck.
A lot of people were annoyed when they expanded Qualcomm Stadium in 1998 for Super Bowl 32 and just made the stadium cramped…it DID get us Super Bowl 37, but it chased off the Padres to downtown (although, again, Petco Park is GORGEOUS so this might’ve been for the best!)
While it's not part of the stadium itself, I think an honorable mention should be Camden Yards after the Hilton hotel was built. A good chunk of the skyline view replaced with a boxy silver hotel. Ugly ugly ugly.
As a life long A's fan Mt Davis should be number 1. I still remember that amazing view when I was a kid. Such a disappoinment
Any updates on new stadium at Oakland? That ocean front one been delayed again? I think last time I checked it was to be built by 2023 but I bet Covid has changed that.
They should just take down mt Davis I mean shit they don’t play there anymore why do they need to have it if they raiders are in Vegas now
Stretch501st they haven’t started yet as they need to find more funding. The team owners have decided not to try to get the city to fund it because whenever the government builds a stadium their are more regulations.
@@TysonIke I have never been a fan of multi billion dollar sports teams getting taxpayers money to fund stadiums. Low-interest bonds is one thing, but actually subsidies are a slap in the face to taxpayers.
The designs for it look amazing though if they find the investors. I’m sure they will after things get back to normal.
Stretch501st the only thing that I guess you could say they want from the city is a low purchase price for the land.
A huge mistake not putting Soldier Field on this list. The 2002 renovations delisted Soldier Field as a National Historic Landmark.
I didnt include soldier field bc i just recently did a video on it and i dont consider it a modification but moreso a replacement.
i hope they can figure it out. soldier field must remain. like lambeau. it should never be torn down.
@@soulfly3438 it’s not looking good tbh
Comiskey could have been better designed from the beginning. That said, every renovation done since has been for the better. It's a much better stadium than it was when it opened.
RIP Tal's Hill in Houston.
Dan Snyder is just bad at everything huh
Don’t get me started
@@DIRECTORMRSCOTT He’s still not as bad as Bengals Mike Brown. 😂
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Good idea
BC Place and Seattle Centre come to mind. What are some other ones?
@@bryan89wr i haven't been there but people really seem to like what green bay did. Like he said in the video, the other improvements to progressive field are wonderful and they did a nice job on Rocket Mortgage Fieldhouse as well.
Hard Rock Stadium tops the list, it is a practically brand new stadium
Nobody would know it was a dual use stadium.
The irony of Mt. Davis, within a few years, the Raiders tarped off most if it.
The point was mostly to get luxury boxes, but yes mt davis was a hilarious failure... Just like the Raiders
well it wasn't built to seat fans, it was built to bring the Raiders back and that it did
Don't forget about, the L.A Coliseum. They have obstructed seating now, after the so-called $200+ million dollar renovation....🤦🏾
Just another reason why USC won’t win shit for a long long long time
I found some seats in the renovated coliseum where you can only see the east end zone, what a waste
The renovations are not semetrical which makes the stadium less cool. The stadium never had a good looking exterior so I think that they should have made the boxes above the seats. Or they should have done nothing and made the stadium a public park. Why does a stadium for college football and the Olympic’s need so many boxes anyways.
Problem with that stadium is its just too damn big, i mean they cant even use the one end of the bowl bc its too far away, the rennovation was basically just tripling the size of the press box and luxury seating and leaving the rest the same.
@@forgottenplaces9780 They just need to take out the bleacher seating, that the band sit and have it the way it was, when the Raiders played there but without the track.
I remember when they were building Mt Davis. The construction actually went on during A’s games to be ready for the start of the 96 season. Not only did it destroy the look of what was a reasonably decent baseball venue at the time but it’s ugly with a capital U. A big concrete monolith with seats ridiculously far from the field.
Yep, I remember the first 6 home game for the A's were played here in Vegas at their AAA baseball field. It was memorable for locals to have major league games in Vegas.
I remember watching that they had opened against the Blue Jays in Vegas the Jays just got Roger Clemons and Jose Canseco, a couple of years later Vegas became the Jays triple A team
The renovation of Soldier Field is terrible.
Agree... from a Chicago point of view it’s MUCH worse than the one at & Sox Park
That was my thought. The toilet seat that crashed on top of the classical stadium
Yeah, I clicked on this to see where SF was going to be on the top 5. To my surprise it's not even on the list. They take a stadium and cause it to lose it's register as a historic landmark. Need I say more.
Before the Sox built that “wall” as you call it it was just steep rows of upper deck seats that hung over the side. The seats sucked as they were so far from the action. So they lobbed off 10 or so rows and put on a roof. It looks much better than before. It was a good renovation.
fedex field took out over 20 thousands seats from the upper deck, do a video on nascar tracks having to decrease hugeee amount of seats for example dover international speedway had over 160,000 seats in 2002 and today its down to just 60 thousand... thats insannnneeeeee,,,,, love your content keep it up :)
m and t bank stadium is where its at in Maryland
@@caclax11 it was a nice stadium. We took a trip out there in 2015 to watch the Browns lose.
@@caclax11 M&T is very nice. The new scoreboards in the corners are pretty cool too
@@caclax11 dying to go there just once.
@@justinwarthenRavens owner Steve Bisciotti has invested $150 million, now there are banks of escalators to all levels. He signed a 15 year extension with a 5 year option to renew. He says he might downsize it. A new stadium for the Commaders is on hold until the NFL owner approve the new Josh Harris ownership group.
Oakland will definitely lose the A's if they don't get a new stadium IMO. There are to many cities that would kill to get an MLB team.
Idk, if there was a huge outside demand for a team from other cities the league probably wouldve expanded to 32 by now, dont forget the league almost contracted 20 years ago, I think theres really only maybe 2 or 3 cities that make much sense nashville which seems most practical the as arent even considering
Olympic Stadium has been a disaster on other levels too. It wasn’t completely finished when the Olympics opened in 1976 and Montreal can’t demolish it because they integrated it into the city’s subway system. But it does have a place in rock history, Pink Floyd performed the final show of their 1977 tour there, and the outside tower was immortalized on The Wall album
Do a video on the old olympic stadium Turner Field in Atlanta
Umm, the White Sox did a hell of a job with their renovations.
First off, great name! I took my father to a weekend series there against the tribe in 2018 and we absolutely loved it. From the staff to other fans couldn't have been nicer to us out-of-towners. I especially loved the brewery down the third base line. We took in all three games and sat in different seats for each. In my opinion, for the money, the left field bleachers are great!
I will admit Comiskey Park (and I will always call it that, I don't care what anybody else says) has been greatly improved from when it first opened back in 1991. Still not great I don't think, but at least acceptable
've been on that upper concourse and it does get windy. Trash blowing around, hats blowing off, rain pelting in. Those baffles definitely serve a purpose. As for the view GR is quite a ways from down town so there's not much to see outside anyway. Agree with others, the Park has improved quite a bit since 91.
I remember how steep the old upper deck was when it first opened. Removing those rows helped a lot. Also going from the blue to the green seats was an improvement as well.
Yeah this guy got this one very wrong.
I do not even have to watch to know Mount Davis is there
Here's some first-hand knowledge from a lifelong White Sox hand. You got the first one wrong. Believe it or not, the modifications at New Comiskey Park are an improvement! Yes, the glass wall should be more transparent and provide views of the city, you're correct about that, however, the original upper deck was HATED. It was designed to provide unobstructed views but It was too large and too steep. The exits you mention were also part of the problem because they were so far from the many of the upper deck seats. It was commonly known, that people were afraid to walk up (or down) that upper deck incline for such a distance. Nobody wanted to sit up there. Hence, the modification and improvement.
When I went to the Oakland Coliseum in 1977, I thought it was a beautiful park (except for the excessive foul area). Now it's just an eye sore.
I'm surprised the A's haven't moved again. They really got screwed on the Mount Davis deal.
You should do a video on the Cincinnati Gardens, old stadium built to try and draw an NHL team to Cincinnati and also hosted the Royals in the 70s for a few years. It was demolished a few years back
Back when cincy had an NBA team. wish we still had the royals.
I was at the last ever Mighty Ducks game at the Gardens. I swung by and took a whole bunch of pictures after the Robinsons sold but before the Port Authority tore it down.
Thank you for including the upper right field concrete blocks at Progressive Field. As a Cleveland fan, I have hated them ever since they were put in.
Yeah, I was totally hopeful that the cinderblocks at Progressive Field would have been some sort of party decks, like a low-budget suite. Instead they're just...weird.
The Indians, being cheap? I'm shocked. Shocked I tell you.
Surprised you didn't include Soldier Field's botched renovation.
Went from being one of the most iconic stadiums in the NFL, to being taken off the National Historic Landmark registry. Doesn't help that it looks like a spaceship landed inside it.
Not gonna say the "worst", but the stadium modifications for Russia World Cup, where they increased the seating capacity, was kinda scary. When people jumped (or even walked), the whole structure shook as if it was coming down!
As a White Sox fan I’m gonna say I think your dead wrong about our park
I know we don’t have the best stadium in the league but I never understand why it’s so poorly rated, especially since all the renovations we’ve done through the years
One thing you can be sure of with stadiums. Taxpayers will get hosed.
No Soldier Field where a damn spaceship 🚀 landed?
What Coors Field did in upper right field is perfect I am partial season ticket holder love going to Rooftop deck Progressive Field should have done that 😐
The original plans called for that. I'm not sure why that it didn't happen though.
I assure you...you don't want a view of the city from the white sox stadium.
Before New Comiskey was built the White Sox were threating to move, so the city caved and built them a massive and expensive new stadium. Then it got bad reviews and the city went year after year paying for massive expensive renovations. And now the White Sox still get bad attendance and its still rated as one of the worst ballparks lol.
At 2:22 I imagine Mitch Hedberg..... "Olympic Stadium's roof in Montreal used to have a ton of leaks in it. It still does but it used to..too"
Had you seen New Comiskey Park before the renovation, you would have put it on the best renovations list!
I hope the White Sox get a new ballpark soon. That one has been an eyesore for years.
They need to leave Chicago because it's cubs territory. Maybe move them to Las Vegas because Chicago only need one team.
Soldier Field space ship addition. No one likes it. Looks like shit. Lost the historical landmark status of the stadium.
The white sox park (whatever the name is now) was even worse before the renovation.
White sox park was a victim of changing times and a need for a new stadium, a very bad combo for anyone at that time, while I have been to both versions of the stadium, pre renovations and post, I must say that the newer renovations have made the stadium much better
The Sox did a HELL of a job renovating the Cell
@@hotredboy84 yeah, the renovation really did the justice to the stadium (the name still sucks tho, should be New Comiskey or Comiskey II). There should be a list of stadiums built at the wrong time like Fedex, Trop, Georgia Dome, old Charlotte Coliseum, Alamodome etc.
@@musyarofah1 yeah some people around here still call it comiskey Park or the cell, I find myself saying both sometimes or white sox park lol at some point all three names were correct 😆
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Truth be told, the view of Chicago from behind Guaranteed Rate Field isn't all that impressive.
Yeah because they made the stadium face the wrong direction...bad move
Ok man, to be honest, the Guaranteed Rate Field glass thing isn't even close to the biggest issue in chicago stadiums. Soldier field (host's the bears) got this weird renovation in 2002-03 to it's classic beautiful neoclassical architecture, and put a massive glass thing on top, its ugly, its horrific, it looks like a spaceship crashed into it, and its one of the worse things right by lake michigan. I'd suggest for future video's you do a bit more research.
I have a whole video about soldier field, so i did my research, i didnt include that because i dont consider it a renovation rather a replacement...
@@forgottenplaces9780 Ah ok, thanks for the info!
@@forgottenplaces9780 Also, as i'm thinking about this, i'd suggest you do a video on all of chicago's major stadiums (well one stadium, one video) because the history of a lot of them are quite interesting. Like the united center has the blackhawks and the bulls, and before hand they had "Chicago Stadium" which was one of the most interesting stadiums out there. Also after the 2016 win from the Cubs in the world series, the owners got super greedy, built hotels, and more, and the entire wrigley field area kind of lost it's charm. And finally maybe (if you want to) the Chicago fire stadium situation, which is a interesting topic to research.
I remember when I was a kid that new Comiskey Park wasn't well received, but the renovations really do make it an enjoyable ballpark. I would like the Sox next stadium to be an updated modern jewel box on the site of the old ballpark. I saw a design that wasn't chosen but it would be good in land starved Chicago. I'm sure once the Bears build their new Arlington Park stadium that the Sox, Bulls and Blackhawks are going to want new stadiums, as its been 30 years already.
Believe me, as an-Ex Oakland Raider fan, trust me, it won't be long before the Raiders realize "Oh, crap... We have to go back to Oakland..." Because for those that remember Al Davis, thought that it would be the best idea since sliced bread to move the Raiders to LA, and he ended up admitting that it was a mistake. BIG TIME.. but I hope there's a brand new stadium built for you all... #RIPAL #CommitmentToExellence #JustWinBaby
the coliseum never had a shot at becoming a classic, iconic ballpark no matter what. at its core, it's always been just another circular cookie cutter bowl with all that comes attached to that: seats far far away from the action, acres of foul ground, boring symmetry in both the look of the stands and the field dimensions leading to a distant, not intimate, feel of the game and an overall lack of personality. mt davis didn't cause those problems. the universally agreed standards and ideas in regards to stadium building of the 60s and 70s simply created generally horrible baseball venues. now of course, the coliseum is or was still much better than the truly terrible generic domes and donuts that sprung up everywhere else, but it was still destined to fail bc of when it was built.
I still cannot figure out how the roof at Olympic Stadium was supposed to work?
Cool dude! I love the videos!
Btw thanks for highlighting my comment in the last video!
Mount Davis caused more to build then to build the Oakland Coliseum. Shoulda spent that money on new digs.
Before watching this video, I know that Soldier Field and The Oakland Coliseum are gonna be on this list.
Edit: well I was close
Not a stadium construction but the Hilton Hotel in Baltimore is an eyesore in LF at Camden Yards. It blocks the view of the beautiful clock tower.
Do the New York giants old stadium
This video seems rushed. Not bad but youre better than this
Sox stadium is wrong. That wall is behind the last row of seats. Doesn’t block people from any concourse from looking out.
Exactly... concourse is at the base of upper deck
Concourse is the area behind the seating where people go to get concessions etc. that is what I am referring to
@@forgottenplaces9780 the seats are against that wall. There’s no space behind the seats. As for the actual concourse, there are concession stands on both sides of the aisle. You can only see the skyline if you step out toward the down ramps.
Plus plus, the wall blocks the wind, too.
The better argument would be, why doesn’t Sox Park face the skyline?? That would be sweet.
@@forgottenplaces9780 The Concourse in that stadium isn’t where you said, it’s at the base of the upper deck, which is why all of the entry points to seats are there. That wall that was put up literally sits behind the furthest (top) row of seats and operates as a part of the roof. There are upper and lower concourses at GR Field.
EXCELLENT, my friend. My God, who was responsible for that absolutely HIDEOUS architectural modification done to Fedexfield in Washington DC?! An infant could design something better than that...
FedEx Field isn’t even the largest NFL stadium in Maryland as terms of capacity, M&T holds 71000 FedEx only holds 68000
That was a great piece, my friend, EXCELLENT comments and work. I totally agree with all your points. It really makes one question how these renovations got approved. So wrong and ugly. Particularly, FedEx Field in Washington, D.C. And how could they destroy Jacob's Field in Cleveland like that?! What a beautiful stadium until those mindless crap in right field. You voice is also calm and soothing...conversational. great job, my friend.
The shipping containers are NOT concrete. That would imply that they are permanent. They are “temporary” metal/fiberglass structures that were meant as placeholders until they figure out what to do next. Original plan was something like Coors, but funding fell through.
No there concrete, at least on the top where you stand anyway (i have stood on them several times) i think they may be solid on the inside too as i remember seeing photos of rebar during construction, the panels on the front are metal but just thin sheet metal, i dont believe that rumor about them taking them down, they were built to stay, unless they had some major surge in attendance which wont happen.
At Guaranteed Rate, that wall protects fans in the nosebleeds from rain and wind. With weather being so unpredictable in Chicago, it's definitely nice for fans sitting up there.
Don't you mean opaque glass for Guaranteed Rate Field? Instead of transparent? You even mentioned that people can't see out into the city when they are on the concourse
Another bad stadium modification was probably before your time. In 1979, they converted Angel Stadium from a baseball-only stadium to a dual-use facility when the Rams moved out of the Coliseum. They enclosed the entire perimeter and added these roll-out bleachers for football games. It went from being a decent baseball stadium to a bad stadium for both sports, with bad sight lines and no personality. They converted it back to baseball-only after the Rams moved to St. Louis and Disney bought the Angels.
The retractable roof on the Big Owe in Montreal was 11 years late to be installed and worked for like 2 years lol.
It was also part of the original design, so not exactly a modification lol
I have an idea that ugly additional translucent wall thingy at the White Sox' stadium was put there for only one reason, helping keep the sun out of players' eyes.
Regarding the renovations made to the right field upper deck at the Jake, the team could have used the blueprint set up by the Cardinals in the mid 90’s when they converted the center field upper deck at old Busch Stadium into an area showcasing their pennants and retired numbers. IIRC, the conversion was made so the displays did not require the removal of seats. Aesthetically, the upper deck looked great and it was probably the best of all cookie cutter stadiums.
The white Sox stadium is like that because the seats would go on even longer but they got rid of about 8 rows and put those translucent windows because the sun glare was bad but you wouldn't even see the city at all.
- a Chicagoan
speaking of chicago a lot of those stadiums started to put those in for wind protection as if those barriers are not up it creates a wind tunnel affect in the concourse tunnels
Will the A’s ever get a new stadium?
Maybe
Yea in Vegas
"Guaranteed Rate Field"--also is the worst name for a baseball stadium.
Olympic Stadium--I went there once to see the Expos play. It was like watching baseball in a shopping mall.
Ah yes, "The Big Owe" in Montreal...and people are *still* waiting for that man to have a baby. (At the time Montreal's mayor claimed that the Montreal Games could not possibly have a cost overrun as a man could not have a baby.)
The roof wasn't completed for the games in '76, so the stadium was partially open-air. At one point, it rained so heavily that the flame was put out. Legend has it that some guy offered to relight it with his Bic lighter, but they used the flame from one of the lanterns that was still lit to relight it.
But hey, at least you can enter the stadium right from the Montreal Metro.
Tbh the raiders stayed there for 25 years, that's a long time
Not really
@@sacramentokingswillrise7525 lol, a quarter of a century isn't a long time, are you on crack
@@uhtredofbebbanburg5748 25 years isn't that long for a Pro Sport Team staying in a City.
@@sacramentokingswillrise7525 Tell that to St. Louis. They had the Cardinals for 28 years and the Rams just shy of 20.
I'm not sure if you've done a vid on this but awhile back the Orange bowl got upgraded and turned into camping world stadium but honestly I'm not sure if I like as much as I like the orange bowl. I feel like the orange bowl even though it looks much nicer it kinda got done dirty.
Can't all be Lambeau
I took my kids to the top of the Jake( I refuse to call it progressive field) and I couldn't believe that shit! My kids asked me what they were, and I had no idea. Got some cool pics though
The seats that the now-Commanders should've removed first to remove first from Fedex Field were the lower bowl seats underneath the second decks' overhang as well as the first few rows of the lower bowl.
I had no idea the file cabinets in Cleveland had nothing to them. So many other stadiums did similar things well, like the Rockies did with the Rooftop.
How about watching the game and not worry about the view of hills. Your there to watch the game in the field
The Big A was the precursor to Mt. Davis. Thankfully, Anaheim got rid of theirs.
Guaranteed Rate Field is a great place to see a game!
The modification at Guaranteed Rate is better than what was there before so disagree with that one. Most Sox fans would agree...worst mistake was making that field face away from the downtown skyline
nice video! The next thing would be to cover the entire world stadiums:)
The modified roof at G-Rate Field does not wrap all around the stadium. It was done to remove the rows high in the back and extend the roof further over the stands.
Jack Murphy Stadium/Qualcomm Stadium in San Diego should be on here. It was a beautiful stadium until it was enclosed in 1997. The view of the hills on the east side was lost, and it was just way too big. Some of those upper deck seats were never used, and you couldn't even really see the endzones or the scoreboard from the upper east deck.
Its not on this list but I do have a video about that stadium…
The most embarrassing thing about Mt. Davis is that even the Raiders stopped using it back in 2014.
The LA Coliseum looks bad too. I think they are doing another renovation now, but the last decade or so, it looked like garbage.
Wrigley field and Fenway park renovations
In Oakland, we use mount Davis ad a fan area/concession area/mega seating for playoff and Giants games
What about Soldiers Field in Chicago? That was a horrible monstrosity.
Ok when you attend a baseball game you might want to watch the game instead of the view of the hills
Worst one is guaranteed rate field changing their name. Dumbass modification
Other ones I thought of are getting rid of the Great Wall of Flushing from Citi Field and adding the Chase Bridge to MSG
Start winning some games and those tarps will come down and they will reinstall those seats.
Oakland should have spent the 400 million on a raiders stadium. Then, they don’t have to try to get a new nfl stadium and just a mlb stadium
Oakland blocking off the shxthole! That was a great move!
You're channel is growing, congrats 👏
I don't attend a lot of games, but when I go I watch the game, not the view.
Re White Sox- What views? The stadium is surrounded by industrial buildings and low income residential neighborhoods.
Ive always liked the indians upper deck no one is ever up there and u have it all to your self
Just imagine the millions of dollars they lost in not having those seats during the world series in 16’
Do the Soldier Field re-do i mean s#itty re-do done there '01-'03. Just put lipstick on a pig for that renovation.
Wouldn’t say the old soldier was a “Pig” they ruined an amazing old stadium and lost the Historical register recognition in the process
That's definitely not a lipstick on a pig situation, they gutted everything other than the columns/entranceways.
The Progressive Field shipping containers is sad because nobody goes to their games anymore :(
Shouldnt change the name or always do the opposite of what their customers want…
Do one on the L.A. Coliseum after it's renovation.
Why would you ever want to reduce capacity?
Correction: "Last AND least..."
A lot of people were annoyed when they expanded Qualcomm Stadium in 1998 for Super Bowl 32 and just made the stadium cramped…it DID get us Super Bowl 37, but it chased off the Padres to downtown (although, again, Petco Park is GORGEOUS so this might’ve been for the best!)
Catwalks at Tropicana field!
While it's not part of the stadium itself, I think an honorable mention should be Camden Yards after the Hilton hotel was built. A good chunk of the skyline view replaced with a boxy silver hotel. Ugly ugly ugly.