You play this whole game as a pacifist and then you commit foul murder against this tragic, awful woman. This fight was a real punch in the gut for me.
With all honesty, I wish that they would’ve been an option where you could actually save and recruit her, help beat the true final boss (giant spaceship worm), and true true secret final boss. (The bird with a giant green wrench.)
Same here. I know that it might make the game more impactful to be the way that it is because of how tragic Black's story is, but darn it I feel bad for her and she is cool and being able to befriend her would be awesome.
@@scyfinn7866 That actually gives me an idea, if it were thing: After showing her the light and befriending her to your team, at the end of the true final boss fight, and after the true ending, you would get an option leading to the true *TRUE* secret final boss given to you by her, where you get you to kill her past like in Enter the Gungeon, after which she will finally be free of her horrible past, and she’ll be a permanent good guy.
I know this is supposed to be a one-liner, but the fact that it probably wouldn't _work_ for her headaches bugs me. Not because they're supernatural in nature, but because they're cluster headaches- which Ibuprofen doesn't work on.
@@Nathan-rb3qp I know. I'm not saying it's bad- I'm just saying something needlessly pedantic in an attempt to describe the detail that went into this game.
People sympathize for her because of what Elro did to agent Grey. Black says that "for 187 years, "they" (Grey) would try to talk to black, but black would refuse". Agent Black loved Grey, and when she saw Elro kill them... She lost it. Its so tragic. Black didn't deserve the pain beforehand, and when help arrived, Elro took it away. To top it off, you, the player, must finish her off. It's an emotional concoction of a fight. It might be satisfying to see the villain die yes, but after knowing all of this... I for one, can't help but feel awful.
@@Nathan-rb3qp I agree. However, from my pov, I think elro is more wrong than black. He had no reason to believe the agents and the concern were nothing but fluff. Black on the other hand, saw elro murder grey right in front of her. That must have been traumatic to the point where she could have gone haywire and ripped off elros arm to make him suffer iconoclasts has such a good story line. People feel emotion for all of these characters. It's a pity that many people haven't found out about it..
@@Nathan-rb3qp I actually think it's neat that after Elro confronts and looses his arm to Black in the Tower, he starts becoming more and more of a mirror relflection of his enemy; apathetic, tortured, and being totally blinded by their goals, as they no longer care for anything else, to the point where they nearly doom the world. By the end, they're both working towards the same goal; don't let Robin take the rocket. They just have their own respective reasons for it, (Black wants to carry out her mission since it's all she knows at this point, and Elro wants to keep Robin safe no matter what, as she's all he has left.) Really, no one in the narrative is perfect, with most of the major characters being pretty morally gray, and that's part of what I love so much about Iconoclasts-
![Iconoclasts - Agent Black/Ivory Beast [No Hit]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/p6n4p8SO9qQ/mqdefault.jpg)
![Iconoclasts - Agent Black/Ivory Beast [No Hit]](/img/tr.png)
This was the high point of the game for me.
You play this whole game as a pacifist and then you commit foul murder against this tragic, awful woman. This fight was a real punch in the gut for me.
Immensely tragic. But at least she doesn't have to suffer from headaches anymore...
With all honesty, I wish that they would’ve been an option where you could actually save and recruit her, help beat the true final boss (giant spaceship worm), and true true secret final boss. (The bird with a giant green wrench.)
Same here. I know that it might make the game more impactful to be the way that it is because of how tragic Black's story is, but darn it I feel bad for her and she is cool and being able to befriend her would be awesome.
@@scyfinn7866 Facts.
@@scyfinn7866 That actually gives me an idea, if it were thing: After showing her the light and befriending her to your team, at the end of the true final boss fight, and after the true ending, you would get an option leading to the true *TRUE* secret final boss given to you by her, where you get you to kill her past like in Enter the Gungeon, after which she will finally be free of her horrible past, and she’ll be a permanent good guy.
I did NOT see that second part coming
when the music starts playing again i was shook
I feel like ivory beast is iconoclasts version of metroids kraid
es increible que la decision de eliminarla fue muy fuerte,pero agent black perdio el control por su ira
Agent black was a girl, or maybe non-binary, who the fuck knows anymore
Guys I think that’s her rocket
And what? She is a monster, rocket must belong to Robin, not to this monster
When she said "headache" then her head exploded, I said to myself "Should've got some Ibuprofen bitch."
I know this is supposed to be a one-liner, but the fact that it probably wouldn't _work_ for her headaches bugs me. Not because they're supernatural in nature, but because they're cluster headaches- which Ibuprofen doesn't work on.
@@ImFangzBro It's was a joke.
@@Nathan-rb3qp I know. I'm not saying it's bad- I'm just saying something needlessly pedantic in an attempt to describe the detail that went into this game.
@@ImFangzBro got it.
@@ImFangzBro Love it. Dont ever stop preaching brother
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It's insanely satisfying to see her die after what she did to Elro.
People sympathize for her because of what Elro did to agent Grey. Black says that "for 187 years, "they" (Grey) would try to talk to black, but black would refuse". Agent Black loved Grey, and when she saw Elro kill them... She lost it.
Its so tragic. Black didn't deserve the pain beforehand, and when help arrived, Elro took it away. To top it off, you, the player, must finish her off. It's an emotional concoction of a fight.
It might be satisfying to see the villain die yes, but after knowing all of this... I for one, can't help but feel awful.
@@arthurzhang960 Both Elro & Black were in the wrong.
@@Nathan-rb3qp I agree. However, from my pov, I think elro is more wrong than black. He had no reason to believe the agents and the concern were nothing but fluff. Black on the other hand, saw elro murder grey right in front of her. That must have been traumatic to the point where she could have gone haywire and ripped off elros arm to make him suffer
iconoclasts has such a good story line. People feel emotion for all of these characters. It's a pity that many people haven't found out about it..
@@Nathan-rb3qp I actually think it's neat that after Elro confronts and looses his arm to Black in the Tower, he starts becoming more and more of a mirror relflection of his enemy; apathetic, tortured, and being totally blinded by their goals, as they no longer care for anything else, to the point where they nearly doom the world. By the end, they're both working towards the same goal; don't let Robin take the rocket. They just have their own respective reasons for it, (Black wants to carry out her mission since it's all she knows at this point, and Elro wants to keep Robin safe no matter what, as she's all he has left.)
Really, no one in the narrative is perfect, with most of the major characters being pretty morally gray, and that's part of what I love so much about Iconoclasts-
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Way to join a gang, instead of forging your own way ahead
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