the prophecy makes sense... we just have the wrong interpretation, it's the Iron Age, steel hasn't been invented yet, and you need a flat stone to carve the shape of a blade, and pure hot metal in it... if you know how to do it you don't get a wonder sword, but you can arm an army... but first, you need to know how to make charcoal, to raise the temperature up to melt the iron ore... so that's the only magic involved, turn the wood to charcoal, and the ore to a sword...
@@user-McGiverThere was a video made several years ago where they discussed this very thing. Stone was carved into a mold where molten metal was poured into it to make swords...the sword in the stone...and it morphed with all the oral retellings, like a game of telephone.
@@kurtvanluven9351Question: Maybe Scotland was Britania before it was Scotland. Maybe England was Britania, before it was England. maybe Wales was Britania before it was Wales? If you were a British celt,where would you fight the hardest if invaders' attack ? Let's say the Romans ,with divide and conquer in mind ?l would think it might be where the British celts seat of power (capital city) might have been,? Where in England did the Bonnie Prince claim the throne of England with backing of the people now know as the Scots? Could this have been Arthur's seat ,the ancient capital of the British celts? Is it where the four roads meet? Is there an Abbey Town near ,its said he left Guineveir to fight the green Knight? He's supposed to have rested his men on kings Hill just outside Abbey Town? The sarmation calvary wore copper armour, the armour was made up of small pieces of copper shaped like the scales of a fish ? When they charged they carried a funnel with fiery colourd tapers flowing like a flame ,and the whistling sounds like a screaming Dragon? What colour does copper go in damp weather, what's verdigris? Was the Sarmation calvary also called the Lizard men and fought for the Roman Empire? Was the 9th legion made up of Sarmation calvary and were they based at the British cells capital city? Did Arthur win back the capital city of Britania, and that's why we have London ?so where's he buried under a church maybe? So where's an Arthuret church, near to where the four roads meet, that Britania was ruled from ,the bonnie Prince claimed the throne of England, and the 9th Roman legion was based ? Are the Graham's the remnants of Arthur's men and defended the lands around the church right up into the 1920s know as the debatable lands ? Are the Armstrongs the descendants of Arthur'? Kin,mont Willie? My thoughts no facts please fact-check?
@@BRI-25040 I know of the archeology findings. Much of this is difficult to pin down. Certainly the clues are written and may be strengthened by future discovery. Having Scotts roots, I believe it beneficial to continue looking. Thank you for your reply.
Gerald of Wales gives a very detailed account of the discovery of Arthur and Guenevere's bones at Glastonbury Abbey. rumour has it that the visiting pilgrims were stealing Arthurs bones as souvenirs and they had to be hidden away for many years. perhaps. judge for yourselves.. You can read Gerald’s account in De instructione principis, which has just been edited and translated by Gerald Bartlett as part of the Oxford Medieval Texts series.
When I was in Spain someone i the hostel i was at said there was a version of the aurthurian tale that ends in him getting turned into a crow and I'd really like to read that one
This is correct. It is to do with the fact that Morgan Le Fey was his half sister who was heavily associated with ravens. Look up the nine morgans of Avalon. Geoffrey of Monmouth.
there you go : Julian del Castillo. History of the Goth Kings, published in 1582 . interesting that arthur's nephew is supposedly ablo to turn into an eagle also . and arthur's father if you remember was said to be able to change appearance . that's how arthur got to be born actually.
I needed this. Thank you. All myths are based on something factual. I'm not saying all the magic was involved but everyone has had their own interpretation of "magic."
This is the story of Roland, Arthur is Roland from France, William the Conqueror from Normandy going to England to end the last country that held a people's vote, not allowing the Vatican to choose a king, but keeping the people as the final religious authority
@@JasonBourneSpeaks actually the stories are supposedly Celtic and definitely brought up in Welsh stories. I understand the French were responsible for adding Lancelot to the story.
'magic' means 'great' and 'wizard' means 'wise'... No supernatural meaning. To make a steel sword, you start with iron ore which is stone, and you draw it out. You need to be a learned person to do it though!.... It's really a very simple story of technology if you add in the parts that poets don't understand 😅
Caitlin Green's work is really good on Arthurian myth especially from the Welsh sources, and useful as a touchstone for hopes of a 'kernel of truth'. On the upside post-Roman Britain is fascinating enough without an Arthur and the need to invent such a legend could be saying a lot about 9th century Britain.
There is an episode of the 90s Sci-Fi show "Babylon 5" entitled "A Late Delivery from Avalon." A man arrives at the station claiming to be King Arthur. I thought it was a really good episode
It is possible that Arthur's exploits mostly happened. However, like Ragnar lothbrok, the name could be a catchall for early heroic deeds. Ragnar existed somehow, but they don't know what real king he was.
Cornwall a long time source of TIN since the bronze age, Greeks, Phoenician (Hebrew) traders went there for tin to make bronze; and Joseph of Arimathea is purported to have viited Glastonbury with his nephew Jesus; his hawthorne stick was thrust ino into the ground and still flowers there, twice a year.
The place you refer to is called Wearyall Hill. The holy thorn, a descendant of the original planted centuries, blooms on Christmas Day. Part of the kitchen and the Lady Chapel remain on the Abbey grounds.
There has never been prove that Arther ever existed. He’s supposed to have his castle and lived in Cornwall, Scotland, and wales. The monks of Glastonbury claimed they found his bones in their Abbey.
Considering they're all Celtic countries (yes Cornwall was a country and some feel it still should be) and Wales and Scotland had a very close partnership for centuries it's not that surprising.
👏👏👏 exactly has everyone studied archology and history myths and legends usualy have some truth in them noahd ark,crystal skulls ,ark of the covenant ,especialy flood myths in most relegions .
The point is something is assumed to be untrue without any evidence it is. We already have inspiring figures in our history, Wellington, Alfred the Great, Churchill....
If King Arthur really did exist and he was buried in Gladtonbury Abbey. Then I can already tell you what likely happened to his remains. Henry VIII removed them for his own "private collection" when he had the Abbey destroyed. Henry VIII was pretty obsessed with the Legend of King Arthur even believing he was his direct descendant. He would have believed his remains had mythical powers so there is absolutely no chance he would have allowed them to stay there.
There are many different legends about Arthur’s resting place. One places him under Richmond Castle. And therein lies one of the many clues to the true answer.
Factual error: The Duke of Cornwall was dead _before_ Uther Pendragon slept with Igraine, he wasn't killed by Uther afterwards. This is important later in the story.
I still have photos of where Arthur and Guevere were supposed to be buries in the yard of the Abbey in Glastonbury. However it would seem their bones were removed so that no one would try to steal them.
There wasn't an Arthur, at least not like he's been described in medieval literature. The guy that Nennius, Gildas or Bede mentioned would've been very different from the story told by Geoffrey Monmouth,vChrétien de Troyes, or Thomas Mallory. The myth is very likely the result of merging old legends with semi-mythical figures and real ones, as well as more or less mythicized events and places from several different time periods. It's not really possible to find the remains of the real Arthur if there wasn't a real Arthur, at least not exactly or not just one. There were descendants of Roman soldiers and officials, as well as many Welsh kings and chieftains in the 5th and 6th centuries, but not an Arthur, a Merlin, an Excalibur, a Round Table, a Camelot or anything like that, at least not like the books describe and probably not at the same time and the same place.
Yep, & if as you suggested Arthur was a 2nd or 3rd generation Romano-Brit he might not have been Christian therefore not buried in a Christian tradition but cremated. So no body to find.
@@MrKedabNot sure why you'd say that. What that commenter said was factual and, at a party, would start a very interesting conversation about the topic.
@@yensid4294 if there was a 2nd or 3rd generation Roman Briton from the Gens Artoria who participated in the Battle of Badon Hill or other battles against Anglo-Saxon Saxon chieftains and/or other Romans or Celts around 500 AD, he was most likely Christian. Romans had become Christian a couple of centuries prior, under Constantine The Great. Still, I doubt there would be THAT ONE man so relevant that he'd be buried there and called specifically King Arthur. Someone kind of important was buried there originally, possibly a general or a political leader. The only thing that confirms is that there was a period of conflict between groups of Britons and groups of Angles, Saxons and/or Jutes, who were still very much divided in the early 6th century in many different kingdoms who were not always friendly with each other, just like the Welsh kings.
@@MrKedab depends on the type of party and the people in there. I can also talk about sports, music, movies, TV shows...I have many different interests, that's why I only hang out with smart people who can talk about all those topics and more, so I can learn more.
It is addressed when the two men are introduced right in the beginning, where it states the scientist is risking ridicule by going against received wisdom in his search for archeological evidence of a mythological figure. Rewatch the first 2 minutes of the documentary.
I hear that today, academic Great Britain wants to remove the Anglo-Saxons from history. The Anglo-Saxons came to the East of Britain about the same time as King Arthur may have existed somewhere in the west. Certainly there is far more evidence to the existence of the Anglo-Saxons as there was to King Arthur. I just saw a video today chronicling the middle fifth century’s years without the sun. They suggest that King Arthur and his court disintegrated because of the massive famine of those years.
I have read so very much , and have done my own form of studying on King Arthur , Merlin and believe this or not Joan of Arc ! I have found through an extreme amount of reading and studying these three people . I have found that all three knew eachother and believe this or not " TIME TRAVELERS " . Extensive reading and studying on these three amazing people ! I do not care if anyone believes me or not ! I have done extensive reading and studying . Especially on the subject of Joan .
The question you must ask yourself is, What have I been reading and studying to draw such conclusions? When I was younger I disappointed myself several times with this question. I fell out with ancient aliens, sadly, at 16.
@@DuncanHolland I have missed time twice in my life ! Please refer to the Betty and Barney Hill story from the late 1950's. Also the Author , Bud Hopkins/his books. 🌬️💙🫂🌊🏄😯🙃
Shrubbery, on either side of a little path and a white picket fence! Yes that would be lovely! Or! We will until you find King Arthur's grave and BRING US A SHRUBBERY!!! NEE! NEE! NEE!
Parts of your introduction are, I think, misleading. In the Roman period and the centuries thereafter, there was no sense of "the British" as a distinct people or "Britain" as a distinct realm. We were part of the westernmost division of the Roman empire and therefore a single state and culture with western France and the Low Countries. This is the context of the Arthurian legends and why they were preserved as much in France as in Britain. The conflicts against "foreigners" is not about an invasion of Britain but about the civil wars that caused the collapse of Roman unity and authority. Arthur, like his contemporary Aegidius in Soissons, restores Roman order for a time. So I don't know if people are looking for his bones in the right place, but they definitely aren't looking in the right place for his meaning.
Do you mean why might the ancient architects have chosen 111 for their magic square totals? My guess is it that it might represent the trinity--one father, one son, one holy spirit. But I'm far from an expert on magic squares, medieval architecture, or medieval theology.... I am more inclined to wonder why the 111 was multiplied by 8.
Wonderful! I researched this subject for a book that I published in 2013, and this reinforced the information that I had found. I also found the Holy Grail, by the way, which was never a physical object but is one of the deepest of truths...along with the Philosopher's Stone, which must be found before one can find the Holy Grail.
I've always wondered what historical rrason people have for even thinking the grail existed after the last supper anyways ? I can't find anything, myths, legends, historical documents at all until more recent literature
I think there was a folklore character called King Arthur/whoever existed but he has been turned into a myth as well as his whole history. All has been mainly lost in the mists of time which makes him even more romantic and interesting. The country was different back then and Glastonbury tor was surrounded by water as were other areas. Perhaps even Avalon, which today could also be just another hill. Leave the myth alone. Leave people to dream of Arthur, Merlin, Camelot. Leave Arthur's bones and myth to sleep in peace.
"2:54" I wonder who might be those invaders? I would first try to pinpoint the time period and compare the bones of different "races" from the same period. If the Arthur legend originated in the period of the foreign invasion of Britain, there would be evidence of two different bone structures. And there must have been a battle. Britain is a place with "natives" and "foreigners", probably very close to King Arthur.
I wish them luck but I think King Arthur was just a legendary figure. They probably have more chance of finding the Black Knight or the French taunters - "Now go away or I shall taunt you a second TAHM-UH!" :)
I really don't need all that bombastic music ! also I like to remind folk that there are probably 2 King Arthurs, the word ,'Artus', meaning Bear would be given to a big strong King who probably was christened with a completely different name. What is interesting is the fact that 2 times during the dark ages, there was an uptick in boys being named Arthur which usually happened when there was a good King on the throne.
Glastonbury, like Tintagel is nothing to do with Arthur! The sword in the stone, for example, all that means is how the sword was made by using stone to encase the metal and shape the sword; hence pulling the sword from the stone.
Actually it’s more likely taken from the ‘sword ON the stone’ term. Because many of those ancient tribes used to worship ‘sacred stones’ and would often lay their sword/weapon upon the stone in offering or during prayer. Similar to how they would often cast swords into lakes and bodies of water as an offering to the gods. Which is most likely how the Lady of The Lake story evolved.
Or possibly the sword was taken from a saxon, similar in Latin to word for stone. Practice of throwing swords into lakes to was not uncommon. Water was seen as a gateway to another world.
What if he was one of the mysterious Picts, before they came to Scotland or early on. Few look at that era. The mythology of it sounds like the ballads of the pictish era.
Arthur= Grandson of Magnus Maximus...his 6'7" bones were left on top of stone table near Inverness! Where many leaders from past bones left to elements+1 ❤️
I DO believe that theres a small portion of truth in the ancient myths .... Like the "myth" Ragnar Lodbrok .... historians say he never excisted ... yet the leaders of the great heathen army that invaded England claimed to be hes sons ..... 🤔🙄🤨 But still i believe a person with hes name HAVE excisted .... ofcourse minus hes battles with mythical creatures and such....
King Arthur was made up by a monk in a book about the kings of England… he didn’t exsist like we all think. If he existed at all. The bones they search are not that of the King Arthur with Merlin and magic
@@zoetropo1 yes and he’s a welsh monk. It’s a welsh mythology which goes back to welsh barbs and songs way before that. Then he wrote about it. Also check the mabinogion it’s a welsh mythology book that was written after it, but it’s all based on welsh stories and it mentions King Arthur in a lot of stories within
6th century English kings wouldn’t have the faintest resemblance to the Arthurian art of latter centuries. If the guy resembled anything it would be more like a Scottish clan leader from Highlander or Braveheart.
2:27 "On the contrary, I think strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is a perfectly legitimate basis for a system of governance." Or in this case: "some random bloke just happens to find a random sword stuck in a stone. Just because he managed to pull it out doesn't gibe you the authority to start claiming you're a king."
it's strange to think of people as long as the twelfth century being excited about discovering something historical.. i only imagine people of the past creating historical documents and events to be observed by us, but i guess in every time period people think they are in the modern present times and look back on famous people and events of the past. i guess i'm mentally stereotyping everyone in the past as a separate kind of mind frame 🙂no one ever woke up and said "another day in one thousand BC...i feel so historical! i wonder what BC means..." 😀
Oh. The bones of the _real_ King Arthur. In other news, I’ve recently began excavating a location I’m certain contains physical remains of Clifford The Big Red Dog’s doghouse.
But she doesn't even turn up in the legend until the early 1100s, very much a later addition ti the story so it's almost certainly confirmation it's a hoax.
Unfortunately, there's really been no new information in decades. Rather, there's only been reinterpretations and repackaging of already existing information.
It's baffling to me that anyone would ever believe that there would ever be any bones, still in existence 1400 centuries later much less even 6 centuries. Althought, the destruction of Glastonbury Cathedral does raise 1 question: In KH*'s quest to destroy this and many more churches and cathedrals did, such destruction ALSO include (specific) instructions for the disturbance of graves, too? I wonder.
There don't appear to have been specific official instructions under Henry VIII, but records indicate that Thomas Cromwell and his men, who were carrying out Henry's dissolution of the monasteries in the 1530s, did indeed loot the graves of saints and kings, looking for anything of value that they could sell for profit. In the next century, when the Puritans/Roundheads went on their iconoclastic rampage, their objective was more specifically destruction for the sake of destruction, trying to eradicate everything that remained of monarchy or of any religious observances that didn't conform to Puritan ideas.
Question: before Britain was divided it was one Ireland of BRITANIA, celts ? Where in the north of england, does the 4 roads meet? Look for the only Arthuret church (mini cathedral) in Britain where the four roads meet ,there is a city near the church? Question was BRITANIA ounce ruled from this city ? In the center off the circus you'll find a Saint not clown with a dragon at his feet? Are the Graham's the descendents of Arthur s men
Other than implementing the single most effective (not perfect mind you) form of republic government in the history of mankind and saving Europe (twice) without which if you are British would be speaking German now so put some respect on those sinewy lips of yours when speaking of those "Americans".
@@sarahl6296 Of course we do and are closest of allies. But the good lad was saying Americans have no history which is not true. In the scope of history as far as timelines go USA history is fairly short but not uneventful by a long shot.
Scary music and narrator using the Scary Voice doesn't make archaeology more interesting to the casual viewer. It just makes the show look like it's edited for dumb people.
if he was mortally wounded does that meant he died and then they decided to take him to avalon? but...if they took him there to heal him then it sounds like he didn't die. and if the healing failed we wouldn't have known since they said his departure was that last we hear of him. i guess whether he died before going there or afterward of old age it doesn't really matter by now...but i was just confused by the terminology they used.. [oh! it also made me think of "avalon hill" the game company...i didn't know of the name's significance back when i first knew of the game company...nifty]
Geoffrey of Monmouth's story is muddled, as his contemporaries stated. Avallon is the town in Burgundy to which Riothamus went after Euric's ambush, circa 470.
I believe King Arthur was real, he and Guenivere were real people. People wouldn't/couldn't make up a story such as theirs. What I don't understand is why archiologists, historical writers etc. would doubt it.🤔🤔 What's not to believe, those were dark times. As of Merlin, he could have been such a guy who delved in sorcery and superstitions. People like that exist even today in these times. I believe they were real people, it's time that historians stop negating the fact.
What most people do is use something called evidence. If someone makes a claim, people ask for the evidence to support it, then they evaluate that evidence. You might want to think about that before you buy a flying carpet or a pair of trainers worn by Jesus or something equally crazy
History, for the most part, in the past was told verbally. People were chosen to tell the stories because they were able to remember them correctly. Stories passed down this way are probably more accurate. I like to think someday modern archeologists will find the King and his Queen.
Basically there's no contemporary sources from his time about him despite all these incredible things he's meant to be doing, there's also no archeological evidence fir him either. So evidence zero means his existence is doubtful to put it midly. Arthur isn't a religion, not something you believe in, you just go off the evidence.
Behind many an enduring myth is some small kernel of truth. No magick sword or watery tart, but no doubt a great warrior and leader.
the prophecy makes sense... we just have the wrong interpretation, it's the Iron Age, steel hasn't been invented yet, and you need a flat stone to carve the shape of a blade, and pure hot metal in it... if you know how to do it you don't get a wonder sword, but you can arm an army... but first, you need to know how to make charcoal, to raise the temperature up to melt the iron ore... so that's the only magic involved, turn the wood to charcoal, and the ore to a sword...
@@user-McGiverdude, he’s talking about the sword in the stone and the lady of the lake. not saying the sword was made by magic
Oi! Who are you calling a watery tart eh? Be very careful....
@@user-McGiverThere was a video made several years ago where they discussed this very thing. Stone was carved into a mold where molten metal was poured into it to make swords...the sword in the stone...and it morphed with all the oral retellings, like a game of telephone.
100% stealing "watery tart" 😂
Genius stuff 👏👏👏
Thankyou so very much for this ! Been studying all of this on my own for many years past !
King Arthur's Half sister was Morgan La Fae,& Arthur was sent to Merlin(A Druid ) Also Arthur's Aunt was "Vivan" (The Lady of the Lake)
Coming from the MacKenzie clan we have a love/hate relationship with the Brits. I cannot seem to get enough of the history.
@@kurtvanluven9351 Ya.,.
Sounds like talking tarn ?
@@kurtvanluven9351Question: Maybe Scotland was Britania before it was Scotland. Maybe England was Britania, before it was England. maybe Wales was Britania before it was Wales? If you were a British celt,where would you fight the hardest if invaders' attack ? Let's say the Romans ,with divide and conquer in mind ?l would think it might be where the British celts seat of power (capital city) might have been,? Where in England did the Bonnie Prince claim the throne of England with backing of the people now know as the Scots? Could this have been Arthur's seat ,the ancient capital of the British celts? Is it where the four roads meet? Is there an Abbey Town near ,its said he left Guineveir to fight the green Knight? He's supposed to have rested his men on kings Hill just outside Abbey Town? The sarmation calvary wore copper armour, the armour was made up of small pieces of copper shaped like the scales of a fish ? When they charged they carried a funnel with fiery colourd tapers flowing like a flame ,and the whistling sounds like a screaming Dragon? What colour does copper go in damp weather, what's verdigris? Was the Sarmation calvary also called the Lizard men and fought for the Roman Empire? Was the 9th legion made up of Sarmation calvary and were they based at the British cells capital city? Did Arthur win back the capital city of Britania, and that's why we have London ?so where's he buried under a church maybe? So where's an Arthuret church, near to where the four roads meet, that Britania was ruled from ,the bonnie Prince claimed the throne of England, and the 9th Roman legion was based ? Are the Graham's the remnants of Arthur's men and defended the lands around the church right up into the 1920s know as the debatable lands ? Are the Armstrongs the descendants of Arthur'? Kin,mont Willie? My thoughts no facts please fact-check?
@@BRI-25040 I know of the archeology findings. Much of this is difficult to pin down. Certainly the clues are written and may be strengthened by future discovery. Having Scotts roots, I believe it beneficial to continue looking. Thank you for your reply.
Gerald of Wales gives a very detailed account of the discovery of Arthur and Guenevere's bones at Glastonbury Abbey. rumour has it that the visiting pilgrims were stealing Arthurs bones as souvenirs and they had to be hidden away for many years. perhaps. judge for yourselves..
You can read Gerald’s account in De instructione principis, which has just been edited and translated by Gerald Bartlett as part of the Oxford Medieval Texts series.
However, that grave is fake.
A few years ago there was a "Mini-Series" Called "The Mist of Avalon" it was really well done !!!
Avallon is in Burgundy.
The Mists of Avalon was written by Marion Zimmer-Bradley in 1982. I haven't seen the show you speak of, but I doubt it is as good as the book.
@@bevil4aday I haven't read the book... The DVD is Really good !!!
I still have the book
Excellent documentary.
When I was in Spain someone i the hostel i was at said there was a version of the aurthurian tale that ends in him getting turned into a crow and I'd really like to read that one
I will need to look into that thanks
This is correct. It is to do with the fact that Morgan Le Fey was his half sister who was heavily associated with ravens. Look up the nine morgans of Avalon. Geoffrey of Monmouth.
there you go : Julian del Castillo. History of the Goth Kings, published in 1582 . interesting that arthur's nephew is supposedly ablo to turn into an eagle also . and arthur's father if you remember was said to be able to change appearance . that's how arthur got to be born actually.
I needed this. Thank you.
All myths are based on something factual.
I'm not saying all the magic was involved but everyone has had their own interpretation of "magic."
True. If we took a flashlight back hundreds of years it would be thought of as magic.
This is the story of Roland, Arthur is Roland from France, William the Conqueror from Normandy going to England to end the last country that held a people's vote, not allowing the Vatican to choose a king, but keeping the people as the final religious authority
Very Interesting!
@@JasonBourneSpeaks actually the stories are supposedly Celtic and definitely brought up in Welsh stories.
I understand the French were responsible for adding Lancelot to the story.
'magic' means 'great' and 'wizard' means 'wise'... No supernatural meaning. To make a steel sword, you start with iron ore which is stone, and you draw it out. You need to be a learned person to do it though!.... It's really a very simple story of technology if you add in the parts that poets don't understand 😅
Thank you!!
Excellent. But no one digs up an old grave at night except grave robbers
Lets not go to Camelot. Its a silly place.
It's only a model.
😂
Caitlin Green's work is really good on Arthurian myth especially from the Welsh sources, and useful as a touchstone for hopes of a 'kernel of truth'. On the upside post-Roman Britain is fascinating enough without an Arthur and the need to invent such a legend could be saying a lot about 9th century Britain.
There is an episode of the 90s Sci-Fi show "Babylon 5" entitled "A Late Delivery from Avalon." A man arrives at the station claiming to be King Arthur. I thought it was a really good episode
Where there is that much smoke there is likely some kind of fire.
It is possible that Arthur's exploits mostly happened. However, like Ragnar lothbrok, the name could be a catchall for early heroic deeds. Ragnar existed somehow, but they don't know what real king he was.
Anyone interested in Arthur should read Baram Blackett and Alan Wilsons research.
And Bill Cooper’s book, “After the Flood.”
why everytime i hear of King Arthur i keep remembering Monty Python.....help!
Every time I hear "King Arthur," I want to make biscuits.
Cornwall a long time source of TIN since the bronze age, Greeks, Phoenician (Hebrew) traders went there for tin to make bronze; and Joseph of Arimathea is purported to have viited Glastonbury with his nephew Jesus; his hawthorne stick was thrust ino into the ground and still flowers there, twice a year.
The place you refer to is called Wearyall Hill. The holy thorn, a descendant of the original planted centuries, blooms on Christmas Day. Part of the kitchen and the Lady Chapel remain on the Abbey grounds.
I am proud to count myself as a believer in king arthur always have and im now 75
There has never been prove that Arther ever existed. He’s supposed to have his castle and lived in Cornwall, Scotland, and wales. The monks of Glastonbury claimed they found his bones in their Abbey.
Yes check out the Michael Wood program, there's hardly a corner of Britain that doesn't want a piece of the legend.
@@lw3646 Perhaps Arthur went everywhere? :)
Considering they're all Celtic countries (yes Cornwall was a country and some feel it still should be) and Wales and Scotland had a very close partnership for centuries it's not that surprising.
Thank you for the documentry :)
The recreation of Bligh Bond filling those "Magic Squares" looks an awful lot like modern Sudoku!
How do u know he didn't exist, the legend of Arthur is needed more now than ever before for those of us true british
Well said. Let's hope Arthur comes back to finally kick those Anglo Saxons out of Britain
Well, stand up man. There is a little Of Arthur in us all.
👏👏👏 exactly has everyone studied archology and history myths and legends usualy have some truth in them noahd ark,crystal skulls ,ark of the covenant ,especialy flood myths in most relegions .
The point is something is assumed to be untrue without any evidence it is. We already have inspiring figures in our history, Wellington, Alfred the Great, Churchill....
Anyone with French German and Welch ancestry can claim to be a true British!🤣🤣 that’s most of the United States..
If King Arthur really did exist and he was buried in Gladtonbury Abbey. Then I can already tell you what likely happened to his remains. Henry VIII removed them for his own "private collection" when he had the Abbey destroyed. Henry VIII was pretty obsessed with the Legend of King Arthur even believing he was his direct descendant. He would have believed his remains had mythical powers so there is absolutely no chance he would have allowed them to stay there.
Legend has it that Arthur is buried beneath the ruins of Glastonbury Abbey.
There are many different legends about Arthur’s resting place.
One places him under Richmond Castle. And therein lies one of the many clues to the true answer.
@@zoetropo1What is the clue? The story of Arthur has always been a favorite of mine.
There never was a King Arthur
No they faked that so they could get a lot of people to visit and donate
Legend has it.....
Factual error: The Duke of Cornwall was dead _before_ Uther Pendragon slept with Igraine, he wasn't killed by Uther afterwards. This is important later in the story.
I still have photos of where Arthur and Guevere were supposed to be buries in the yard of the Abbey in Glastonbury. However it would seem their bones were removed so that no one would try to steal them.
There wasn't an Arthur, at least not like he's been described in medieval literature. The guy that Nennius, Gildas or Bede mentioned would've been very different from the story told by Geoffrey Monmouth,vChrétien de Troyes, or Thomas Mallory. The myth is very likely the result of merging old legends with semi-mythical figures and real ones, as well as more or less mythicized events and places from several different time periods. It's not really possible to find the remains of the real Arthur if there wasn't a real Arthur, at least not exactly or not just one. There were descendants of Roman soldiers and officials, as well as many Welsh kings and chieftains in the 5th and 6th centuries, but not an Arthur, a Merlin, an Excalibur, a Round Table, a Camelot or anything like that, at least not like the books describe and probably not at the same time and the same place.
i bet you're a bundle of joy at a party!
Yep, & if as you suggested Arthur was a 2nd or 3rd generation Romano-Brit he might not have been Christian therefore not buried in a Christian tradition but cremated. So no body to find.
@@MrKedabNot sure why you'd say that. What that commenter said was factual and, at a party, would start a very interesting conversation about the topic.
@@yensid4294 if there was a 2nd or 3rd generation Roman Briton from the Gens Artoria who participated in the Battle of Badon Hill or other battles against Anglo-Saxon Saxon chieftains and/or other Romans or Celts around 500 AD, he was most likely Christian. Romans had become Christian a couple of centuries prior, under Constantine The Great. Still, I doubt there would be THAT ONE man so relevant that he'd be buried there and called specifically King Arthur. Someone kind of important was buried there originally, possibly a general or a political leader. The only thing that confirms is that there was a period of conflict between groups of Britons and groups of Angles, Saxons and/or Jutes, who were still very much divided in the early 6th century in many different kingdoms who were not always friendly with each other, just like the Welsh kings.
@@MrKedab depends on the type of party and the people in there. I can also talk about sports, music, movies, TV shows...I have many different interests, that's why I only hang out with smart people who can talk about all those topics and more, so I can learn more.
The Vatican probably has King Arthur's bones in their secret achives ! 🤔 👑
Yes you may be right who knows what all they have in there archives down In the catacombs
They are hogging many books as well.
Probably have most secrets there.
Rather difficult when he's a legendary figure who's burial place was unknown....
No, they don't. The Pope did meet Arthur, though.
I love the part where everyone takes Arthur’s existence as fact.
It is addressed when the two men are introduced right in the beginning, where it states
the scientist is risking ridicule by going against received wisdom in his search for archeological evidence of a mythological figure.
Rewatch the first 2 minutes of the documentary.
I hear that today, academic Great Britain wants to remove the Anglo-Saxons from history. The Anglo-Saxons came to the East of Britain about the same time as King Arthur may have existed somewhere in the west. Certainly there is far more evidence to the existence of the Anglo-Saxons as there was to King Arthur. I just saw a video today chronicling the middle fifth century’s years without the sun. They suggest that King Arthur and his court disintegrated because of the massive famine of those years.
At least no one's claiming Merlin was a spaceman!
For real lolol I just found Woodstocks birdhouse!!
Yea it's a real name. Might sounds funny to a foreigner.
Very interesting
I have read so very much , and have done my own form of studying on King Arthur , Merlin and believe this or not Joan of Arc ! I have found through an extreme amount of reading and studying these three people . I have found that all three knew eachother and believe this or not " TIME TRAVELERS " . Extensive reading and studying on these three amazing people ! I do not care if anyone believes me or not ! I have done extensive reading and studying . Especially on the subject of Joan .
Bet she was an alien
The question you must ask yourself is, What have I been reading and studying to draw such conclusions? When I was younger I disappointed myself several times with this question. I fell out with ancient aliens, sadly, at 16.
Maybe we should all study the lost art of sarcasm.
@@DuncanHolland I have missed time twice in my life ! Please refer to the Betty and Barney Hill story from the late 1950's. Also the Author , Bud Hopkins/his books. 🌬️💙🫂🌊🏄😯🙃
@@DuncanHolland Hey , yes right . What the what ! I always say to myself as a joke , " guess what , keep guessing " ! 🤣
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Isn’t his number puzzle what we refer to as sudoko now?
Fabulous ✌
Might find his bones buried under a shrubbery
Shrubbery, on either side of a little path and a white picket fence! Yes that would be lovely! Or! We will until you find King Arthur's grave and BRING US A SHRUBBERY!!! NEE! NEE! NEE!
@@WickedFelina One that looks nice, and not too expensive
Will done
How come every time I look up the family name Moreland I find a connection to Merlin but it’s never in a single documentary?
Parts of your introduction are, I think, misleading. In the Roman period and the centuries thereafter, there was no sense of "the British" as a distinct people or "Britain" as a distinct realm. We were part of the westernmost division of the Roman empire and therefore a single state and culture with western France and the Low Countries. This is the context of the Arthurian legends and why they were preserved as much in France as in Britain. The conflicts against "foreigners" is not about an invasion of Britain but about the civil wars that caused the collapse of Roman unity and authority. Arthur, like his contemporary Aegidius in Soissons, restores Roman order for a time. So I don't know if people are looking for his bones in the right place, but they definitely aren't looking in the right place for his meaning.
I never thought ancient architects built things based on coded numbers. I wonder why 111
Do you mean why might the ancient architects have chosen 111 for their magic square totals? My guess is it that it might represent the trinity--one father, one son, one holy spirit. But I'm far from an expert on magic squares, medieval architecture, or medieval theology.... I am more inclined to wonder why the 111 was multiplied by 8.
@@amazingdoggo 888 stands for Jesus in Greek isopsephy
Fantastic
These scientists are brilliant. They never leave anything to chance. They dig and dig😀till they find the proof
Scientists don't seek proof. They create a hypothesis, then use it to make predications in an endeavour to disprove it.
Wonderful! I researched this subject for a book that I published in 2013, and this reinforced the information that I had found. I also found the Holy Grail, by the way, which was never a physical object but is one of the deepest of truths...along with the Philosopher's Stone, which must be found before one can find the Holy Grail.
I've always wondered what historical rrason people have for even thinking the grail existed after the last supper anyways ? I can't find anything, myths, legends, historical documents at all until more recent literature
Follow the myth, uncover the legend, chart the legend, uncover the history. Uncover the history, birth the fact.
you dare argue with a knight?
Yeah
He was not afraid to die, oh brave Sir Robin!
I think there was a folklore character called King Arthur/whoever existed but he has been turned into a myth as well as his whole history. All has been mainly lost in the mists of time which makes him even more romantic and interesting. The country was different back then and Glastonbury tor was surrounded by water as were other areas. Perhaps even Avalon, which today could also be just another hill. Leave the myth alone. Leave people to dream of Arthur, Merlin, Camelot. Leave Arthur's bones and myth to sleep in peace.
"2:54" I wonder who might be those invaders?
I would first try to pinpoint the time period and compare the bones of different "races" from the same period. If the Arthur legend originated in the period of the foreign invasion of Britain, there would be evidence of two different bone structures. And there must have been a battle. Britain is a place with "natives" and "foreigners", probably very close to King Arthur.
Where is Monty Python when we need him? Watery tart indeed!
Myths are generally true',
- Joseph Campbell.
Make a video on history of Palestine
They had Soduku! Who knew!
... except they called it "Sir Doku" (of Camelot)
Arthur, ....likely a composite of several early feudal chiefs or leaders.
I wish them luck but I think King Arthur was just a legendary figure.
They probably have more chance of finding the Black Knight or the French taunters -
"Now go away or I shall taunt you a second TAHM-UH!" :)
I really don't need all that bombastic music ! also I like to remind folk that there are probably 2 King Arthurs, the word ,'Artus', meaning Bear would be given to a big strong King who probably was christened with a completely different name. What is interesting is the fact that 2 times during the dark ages, there was an uptick in boys being named Arthur which usually happened when there was a good King on the throne.
Glastonbury, like Tintagel is nothing to do with Arthur! The sword in the stone, for example, all that means is how the sword was made by using stone to encase the metal and shape the sword; hence pulling the sword from the stone.
Actually it’s more likely taken from the ‘sword ON the stone’ term. Because many of those ancient tribes used to worship ‘sacred stones’ and would often lay their sword/weapon upon the stone in offering or during prayer. Similar to how they would often cast swords into lakes and bodies of water as an offering to the gods. Which is most likely how the Lady of The Lake story evolved.
Or possibly the sword was taken from a saxon, similar in Latin to word for stone.
Practice of throwing swords into lakes to was not uncommon. Water was seen as a gateway to another world.
Interesting, but I won't hold my breath til they find him 😅
What if he was one of the mysterious Picts, before they came to Scotland or early on. Few look at that era. The mythology of it sounds like the ballads of the pictish era.
I’m looking forward to the search for Clark Kent’s bones.
Key Word; "Legend and Not Factual/ Historical."
Arthur= Grandson of Magnus Maximus...his 6'7" bones were left on top of stone table near Inverness! Where many leaders from past bones left to elements+1 ❤️
If they were Zoroastrians, yes.
I DO believe that theres a small portion of truth in the ancient myths ....
Like the "myth" Ragnar Lodbrok .... historians say he never excisted ... yet the leaders of the great heathen army that invaded England claimed to be hes sons ..... 🤔🙄🤨
But still i believe a person with hes name HAVE excisted .... ofcourse minus hes battles with mythical creatures and such....
Where there is smoke...
I thought it was very nice of Bond to leave Radford his magnifying glass.
Arthur and guenivere are in my family tree. so th9s is very inerestin.
Arthur's bones were interred in Bury St Edmunds. It's likely they are charred.
Avallon is in Burgundy; Ambrosius Aurelianus went there, not Arthur.
The legend of Arthur may be True, but his name may not have been Arthur and He may have not been a King, but a warrior.
The earliest references don't say he was a king, just that he won some battles.
@@lw3646 The earliest manuscript references to King Arthur are Geoffrey of Monmouth's!
Why not...
King Arthur was made up by a monk in a book about the kings of England… he didn’t exsist like we all think. If he existed at all. The bones they search are not that of the King Arthur with Merlin and magic
Pretty sure it first was written in welsh mythology the rest is all made up by the French and English
Gaslighting is what it is.
@@M0R7_7 No, because Geoffrey of Monmouth's manuscripts are centuries older than the earliest Welsh manuscripts that mention Arthur.
@@zoetropo1 yes and he’s a welsh monk. It’s a welsh mythology which goes back to welsh barbs and songs way before that. Then he wrote about it. Also check the mabinogion it’s a welsh mythology book that was written after it, but it’s all based on welsh stories and it mentions King Arthur in a lot of stories within
6th century English kings wouldn’t have the faintest resemblance to the Arthurian art of latter centuries. If the guy resembled anything it would be more like a Scottish clan leader from Highlander or Braveheart.
I just imagine him as a Roman governor.
@@noahtylerpritchett2682 Or a 'satrap'.
Glastonbury Abby used the squared circle. well known to Architects
2:27 "On the contrary, I think strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is a perfectly legitimate basis for a system of governance."
Or in this case: "some random bloke just happens to find a random sword stuck in a stone. Just because he managed to pull it out doesn't gibe you the authority to start claiming you're a king."
Without the origunal remains there is no way of knowing whether those graves where Saxon.
What I would like to know is how will the archaeologists KNOW that any remains found will be Arthur's?
I wonder if Bond was Freemason?
I believe the monks found what Someone they thought was King Arthur.
yeah ... I'm sure you're gonna find the remains of PUFF the Magic Dragon ...
it's strange to think of people as long as the twelfth century being excited about discovering something historical.. i only imagine people of the past creating historical documents and events to be observed by us, but i guess in every time period people think they are in the modern present times and look back on famous people and events of the past. i guess i'm mentally stereotyping everyone in the past as a separate kind of mind frame 🙂no one ever woke up and said "another day in one thousand BC...i feel so historical! i wonder what BC means..." 😀
Oh. The bones of the _real_ King Arthur. In other news, I’ve recently began excavating a location I’m certain contains physical remains of Clifford The Big Red Dog’s doghouse.
Really?!
you are never going to find the remains of a person who never existed in the first place.
Under a car park!!
King arthurs grave and gwenaveres grave are side by side in the glastonbury abbys south side yard. Teach that instead of a lie.
But she doesn't even turn up in the legend until the early 1100s, very much a later addition ti the story so it's almost certainly confirmation it's a hoax.
Graveyards are usually south of a church.
@@lw3646 The grave is a hoax, but the story of Arthur is a fictionalised account of famous 11th century people.
500 years from now, someone will be searching for the remains of Harry Potter.
I wonder why the monks chose to dig up Arthur's grave in the middle of the night
How did they know to dig on that exact spot?
Owain Ddantgwyn!!!!! 🛡️⚔️
Who was Author’s second wife
A fool's errand. Don't they know his bones lie at rest in Avalon?
I can't believe they removed a skeleton with most of the bones still joined together. They would have been detached. the visuals are sus.
You're aware that's a recreation and not a recording from over a hundred years ago, right?
Unfortunately, there's really been no new information in decades. Rather, there's only been reinterpretations and repackaging of already existing information.
It's baffling to me that anyone would ever believe that there would ever be any bones, still in existence 1400 centuries later much less even 6 centuries. Althought, the destruction of Glastonbury Cathedral does raise 1 question: In KH*'s quest to destroy this and many more churches and cathedrals did, such destruction ALSO include (specific) instructions for the disturbance of graves, too?
I wonder.
There don't appear to have been specific official instructions under Henry VIII, but records indicate that Thomas Cromwell and his men, who were carrying out Henry's dissolution of the monasteries in the 1530s, did indeed loot the graves of saints and kings, looking for anything of value that they could sell for profit. In the next century, when the Puritans/Roundheads went on their iconoclastic rampage, their objective was more specifically destruction for the sake of destruction, trying to eradicate everything that remained of monarchy or of any religious observances that didn't conform to Puritan ideas.
We have the bones of some people from that period but finding his specific bones unlikely.
To sum up this 50 minutes, did they find his body, no they didn't.
Quit watching halfway through. Just a ridiculous amount of ads.
Question: before Britain was divided it was one Ireland of BRITANIA, celts ? Where in the north of england, does the 4 roads meet? Look for the only Arthuret church (mini cathedral) in Britain where the four roads meet ,there is a city near the church? Question was BRITANIA ounce ruled from this city ? In the center off the circus you'll find a Saint not clown with a dragon at his feet? Are the Graham's the descendents of Arthur s men
Please rephrase this so it parses.
next up .. finding the "remains" of Hamlet and Macbeth...
Actually, i happen to have his bones.
The Bear.
I love how Americans come and try and tell British people their own history in the comments😂bro you have no history sit down
Other than implementing the single most effective (not perfect mind you) form of republic government in the history of mankind and saving Europe (twice) without which if you are British would be speaking German now so put some respect on those sinewy lips of yours when speaking of those "Americans".
Americans have British ancestry, among many others. Our history is intertwined, we just didn't stay under a king. Where do you think we came from?
@@sarahl6296 Of course we do and are closest of allies. But the good lad was saying Americans have no history which is not true. In the scope of history as far as timelines go USA history is fairly short but not uneventful by a long shot.
@@sarahl6296 also actually Americans have ancestries from all over the world. And all races and religions.
@@jakepotts102 that's why I said and many others. He acts like we all dropped here out of the sky and don't have ancestral history beyond america.
Loud music - couldn't watch.
Scary music and narrator using the Scary Voice doesn't make archaeology more interesting to the casual viewer. It just makes the show look like it's edited for dumb people.
why waste time on mythological characters ???
if he was mortally wounded does that meant he died and then they decided to take him to avalon? but...if they took him there to heal him then it sounds like he didn't die. and if the healing failed we wouldn't have known since they said his departure was that last we hear of him. i guess whether he died before going there or afterward of old age it doesn't really matter by now...but i was just confused by the terminology they used..
[oh! it also made me think of "avalon hill" the game company...i didn't know of the name's significance back when i first knew of the game company...nifty]
Geoffrey of Monmouth's story is muddled, as his contemporaries stated. Avallon is the town in Burgundy to which Riothamus went after Euric's ambush, circa 470.
I believe King Arthur was real, he and Guenivere were real people. People wouldn't/couldn't make up a story such as theirs. What I don't understand is why archiologists, historical writers etc. would doubt it.🤔🤔 What's not to believe, those were dark times. As of Merlin, he could have been such a guy who delved in sorcery and superstitions. People like that exist even today in these times. I believe they were real people, it's time that historians stop negating the fact.
Not read much have you? I bet you believe in Gandalf and Hobbits too.
What most people do is use something called evidence. If someone makes a claim, people ask for the evidence to support it, then they evaluate that evidence. You might want to think about that before you buy a flying carpet or a pair of trainers worn by Jesus or something equally crazy
History, for the most part, in the past was told verbally. People were chosen to tell the stories because they were able to remember them correctly. Stories passed down this way are probably more accurate. I like to think someday modern archeologists will find the King and his Queen.
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Basically there's no contemporary sources from his time about him despite all these incredible things he's meant to be doing, there's also no archeological evidence fir him either. So evidence zero means his existence is doubtful to put it midly.
Arthur isn't a religion, not something you believe in, you just go off the evidence.