3 Essential Battle Tips | TOTAL WAR WARHAMMER
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Thanks. Didn't notice the lock group setting. I've been manually moving every unit which is such a pain. This'll save a lot of time.
I think I played Rome 2 like you for 2 years. When I realized that I can lock groups it was like a new game for me. So much less complicated and more fun.
Hasaki Nagger
Haha yeah. It sucked to carefully make all your formations before battle and then press Ctrl-A and forward march, and the whole army would reorganize into one huge straight line like a bunch of dummies. I'm glad those days are over for me.
i was the same way lol actually quit playing because the older total wars auto locked your formation when you grouped em'.
Janus
its a really stupid mechanic.
in rome 1, all units moved as a group by default
I'm a TW veteran and I think these kind of videos are crucial for the beginners. It even reminds me of things from time to times. Great job!
Dude, its 2019 and you just helped me out big time. I'm sure I would have eventually figured out this info, but you just cut who knows how much time off of that learning curve. Thank you for this video.
2021 for me lol
@@EmperorsTeeth Never to late to join the club!!
A lot of people are commenting about the Alt key movement. This is of course an important feature for movement, but I wanted to include this as part of a later discussion about battles once they had begun, the lock groups movement is important to know as a beginner so you can keep your groups together if you wish to do so. The alt method works just as well but in my opinion you use that for fluid changes in a battle I wouldn't use it as a beginner straight out the gate.
awesome video can you pump out more beginner video's like this please
plus the alt move is a brand new feature which isn't too refined yet seeing as they're is no way of rotating your formation to face your enemy the classic group method is much better. (for now)
Alt move + ctrl, will rotate your armies position. I learned this by accident last night.
ahah then never mind my other comment, i'll have to try that out
I'm a total beginner, loving the game, this video was super helpful. Thank you.
That tip about formations made the difference between me hating the game and loving it. Everything is so much easier now. Thanks!
thats great glad it helped you
Same here man this game is so much better now. Subbed hope you do some more tips for Warhammer.
I'm like these two guys. thanks !
2 years later still saving lives , thanks bro that lock formation I didn’t know about
New subscriber to you after your bf1 talks, now you talk about total war aswell, you're perfect :D
+Hanif Aziz thanks mate, more coming up tomorrow
Just started playing this game today. Man. This game is, I would argue, a little bit excessively hard to get in to if you've never played Total War before. I don't agree with needing to consult youtube just to understand a video game but I really appreciate the content this was super helpful.
you gave an unintentional hint that I did not know. by double-clicking the unit card, it highlights the unit... I often find units get lost in battle and this tip will be super handy.
problem with this is, you only move 1 group at a time, if you wish to move the entire army up, you can select your entire army and use LAlt button. to move the entire army in the formation they are currently in.. without adding them to group numbers.
i usually do this if the enemy doesn't attack, or if i want to move my army further ahead of my artillery, without breaking formations.
I usualy make a formation group the entire army and then ALT drag the entire army until missiles reach. I then bring pikes foward and reinforce and/or press a breach where I can with melee strong units. I use Cavalry to crush routed units and shock hit and runs on the flancks. yeah... this is how it should be done.
to kill dwarves really well is by sending basic infantry on their front to hold them up and then getting Calvary to flank and attack their rear won't matter if there tough as dwarves don't have the toughest infantry unit (black orks are the toughest).
From one TW veteran,this is really essential tips,in battle your micro will become way faster and more organized...80 % people do not even know of this...
You can also mass formation move your army by selecting as many units as you want and then holding ALT+left click and then releasing wherever you want them to move to
One more thing would have been nice:
You can give units a "curved move order" - to make them move around another unit in melee to strike from behind for example. How is that done? There is probably a shift/ctrl/alt key to be pressed with maybe a few clicks inbetween ...
I htink its hold shift
Thank you soo much. I am playing mostly SC2 and Total War is so much different and more strategic in Battles. These Tips helped me alot
Supreme commander 2 or Starcraft 2? I'd really like to find a friend to play supreme commander with...
+ClashDashRoar Starcraft 2 sorry
You mean it's more *tactical* in battles. Strategy is the campaign map and how you compose your army.
New to this game.... and yes struggeling w Total War battle controlls. Love to see more vids like this!
Total War: Warhammer is my first introduction to the Total War type genre, so I just wanted to say thanks for this as it was helpful. Also, I have an open question to anyone that could answer. Sense watching this I've also learned that I can use Shift to add pivot points to the routes of the cavalry. So for for simplicity's sake imagine sending your cav past a unit then hold shift and click them back toward the units backs (Kind of like the shape of this |\ ) now I also want them to attack so I'll hold shift again and click the enemy unit and presto the line turns red and it looks as if my cav is going to run past and turn around to charge the unit in the back, but instead they will just stop moving at the last shift click or pivot point in the sequence up to the point where I hold shift and click to attack. So I can Shift click a crazy zigzag pattern all over the field and the Cav will follow it, but add one more shift click that's a attack command and the line turns red, as if their going to follow the zigzag pattern and then attack, but they always just stop and stand wherever that shift attack command was entered. So what's the deal is this just bugged out, or am I doing something wrong, or is this something that will work with some units and not others? I don't know if it's just caz I'm a noob feeling overwhelmed by all the micro managing, but I really wish I could get this to work right. Fuck, I also really wish there was a way to control unit behavior. Like Cavalry for example, I wish the UI allowed for me to send my Cav in to attack a unit and it would charge in, and out, and back in again, and again on it's own so that if I get tied up in micro managing something else my Cav won't just sit there getting destroyed. It makes no sense to me that cavalry does not do this on it's own. I'm sure in a lot of cases you'd want to control their movements more strategically then that, but it's not as if in a real battle scenario where the general is busy issuing orders to the rest of the troops the cavalry would just forget that they should be charging shit instead of fighting at a stand still where their horse could easily be killed by a dagger let alone a sword or spear. FUCKING "A" I WISH I KNEW HOW TO MAKE MODS QQ.
Great guide . I've been playing for awhile and still didn't know these simple tools to help . I get slaughtered from time to time so this has been very helpful. Tysm
Select the units you want, hold left alt. And hold left click on your units, then drag them with mouse. This keeps formation but means you don't need to unlock units when shit hits the fan.
This will help a lot thanks! specially point 3, im new to these games and this happened top me a lot.
could you do some more of this type of video Luetin ?, for a total noob to warhammer and total war series. would be good to learn the game. its easier to learn from a video. great vids
+Luetin09 I am a veteran of the series, but I've never been any good at it. But there is one feature I really, really do miss that is related to this. Instead of grouping sections like this, I usually group units by type for several reasons. However, I don't know how to keep the entire army in formation when doing this. I usually want to move my entire army as one blob in the setup I've created for them, but I don't know how to do that.
I think it should be possible though, but the game never shows you how.
If you want to move your entire army, regardless of grouping, and still keep their formation, select all of them (or the portion you want to move) and use the arrow keys to move them. That might be what you're looking for, if not, sorry :P
I think your getting what I'm trying to do, but how does that work? Do they move just a bit for each press? What if I want to move them far?
+aLmAnZio The longer you hold it down, the further they move. Yellow outlines will tell you how far :)
+aLmAnZio hold down the key :)
thx
Thank you for these tips! These were 3 things I had no clue about and this helps a ton.
these are really nice tips !! improved my combat gameplay big time
Meh. The top tip is to group your units how you want them, then position each group how you want them. Once the battle is started, you can select all units (ctrl-A) and hold alt, left click and drag, this will move all groups in their relative positions.
Extremely helpful, thank you. Please if you have the time, more videos like this would be great.
Great tips man! Simple but life changers
pressing "G" is a quick way to group units, especially if you change tactics mid-battle
Great tips! Would love to see more on tips and tactics!
Many thanks for the tips, Luetin... this will make my next battle much more effective. My poor quarrelers can finally stop worrying about those gobbos and mangy wolves rushing through their flanks. Thumbs up for the tips!
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Great video! Really helped a lot. Thanks!
Oh damn... yeah I feel like I have to thank you for pointing out this... pretty obvious thing, really... I new about group locking but I NEVER THOUGHT they keep their formation even while marching and the way they are facing etc etc... thats huge!
Also I hadnt really used the guard mode cause I... kinda miss understood its function or purpose, but it seems like I have to start using it ;)
Thank god for guard mode, I often find with fighting Orcs that I am playing wack a mole with the routing units that re-form and start coming back. That is where the qualers come into there own.
What does guard mode do?
It makes them hold there position, not run after routing units, after having engaged them in battle.
I desperately wish I had known this stuff before I got so far in the game... I've lost so many units that could have been saved if I'd known this sooner. Thanks so much!
This was very useful, thank you!
That was really helpful. thanx. that kind of stuff really isn't explained anywhere.
Thanks much this is my first Total War game and I'm unfamiliar with the controls.
btw if you mark units you can move them with the arrorkeys and they stay in formation...
not so confusing for beginners 😄
It's much better to use the alt key
both
franz dumm
Alt key is just better. Gives you much more control and even speed. Also gives you the option of holding control to rotate the formation. The only reason to not use it would be if you're somehow playing keyboard only.
lmao i never new about the ctrl to rotate i actually didn't like the alt move because i thought you couldn't rotate i guess i'll give it another shot
IVE JUST LEARN YESTERDAY ABOUT THE GROUP FORMATION THAT YOU COULD LOCK THEM IN PLACE !
very helpful, never knew you could do this before now
Thanks very much, had no idea that you could lock unit formations like that! :-)
Finally, someone breaking down the combat mechanics and system mechanics in a granular level for us total war noobs. Thank you! And thank you TH-cam for putting this channel in my recommended que.
Thanks, the lock group one was new to me. Do more videos liekt his please. Some advanced stuff wouldnt hurt either ;) Subscribed!
I play on normal, but If it's a medieval battle and it's warhammer I could axtually play these game on hard, very hard or even on legendary, I just managed to get into action with every faction and I just managed to get going on the campaing aswel coz the only other total war game I've ever played is medieval and it is very different, but still nice video and yeah it does help for any new players to the game
Thanks for all those tips !! That’s going to help heaps 🙂🙂
Very useful tips thanks
Thank you - the groups not staying in formation was driving me nuts.
I kind of loathe the new formation "options". Locked or not? Melee Front or Missile Front? Rome II has so many formation options and I have no clue why they got rid of all those formations.
I just got the game and after 2 days i was so fed up , i felt like i wasted my money. Your video has really helped me understand the game better. Thanks
Very nice, cheers man!
My god im so fuckin stupid.. never even realised that lock formation movement and with the dwarves this makes such a massive difference and saves so much.
Nice video!
Good advice! As a newbie, this is good to know.
Loving the 'bad company 2' sounds
Thas has totally explained formations for me cheers
dec 2020... i'm a few hours in and i knew this had to be a thing. first video i clicked on. tyty.
thanks, that's exactly what I was looking for!
useful info; loving this game
good video and great tips!
Very useful tips mate. Subbed. (:
I'm really looking forward to this game.
Thanks, this is my 1st TW game, nice vid.
Really useful video .. thanks for sharing mate :)
What software do you use to record this? I've tried both Fraps and DXTory and neither work with this game.
great tips thank you
This helped me alot thank you!
Thanks for the good info.
Very helpful, thank you!
can i have a units in two different groups at the same time? Like if i want all of my units together in one formation, but be able to quickly select and move smaller groups. It was way easier in total war empire when you could just select units and click on a move forward button and they all stayed in the same relative positions
Thanks for the tips!
Great tips
Good guide thx bro
What to do if your catapult attacks your own unit when they mix up with the enemy unit?
as always pal great video,helps us noobs out no end
Thank you!
I've seen in some videos a command where the whole line charges forward at once, and the units auto-target the enemy in front of them without having to give each and every unit a separate charge order. I wonder what the key command is for that?
Just give a locked group an attack order :)
I have play Total war games more than 200 hundred hours without now how to moove my guys without disturb the formation. What a fail ><
A huge thank you for this vidéo !
As a vampire player, hahahaha. =P
Any advanced tips? I play Vanilla on hard and didn’t lose a battle but on SFO I am getting wrecked on hard!
Great Vid! THX
is there a way to attack in formation? so that the your units will attack the units directly in front of them?
Put them in a locked group, then give an attack order
Thank you
this video helped , but there's somthing i don't quite understand....in what kind of situation would you want your missle units to be in front of melee units? aren't they just gonna get slaughterd almost instantly that way?
usually ranged units fire first on an approaching army, by having them in front you can engage them long before enemy infantry are a threat, and then as the other army move forward you move them behind to continue engaging.
depending on the unit type, fire arm units are best to keep in the front ( at least during the start of the fight because they are direct fire units, but for guys with bows you can have them behind your lines since they more or less lob they're missiles. this changes a bit with warhammer because now the firearms units can also lob over your ranks. so the only real reason to put them in front is if you have both say hand gunners and bows and you wanted them to have the same range. plus mostly all missle units are good skirmishers which the only way to skirmish with them is to have them up front. they can also act as a screen for your main army absorbing enemy fire instead of letting it hit your main ranks.
hmm wondering...in many guides / tipps i see or read that people put their archers or gunners in front of the soldiers / melees. then when battle comes near they swap positions. i used to try this but i must say my range units can fire like 2 times and then have to retreat (maybe 3 if on a hill)..also the retreating takes some time to calculate. therefore i leave my range units behind my melees. i dont rlly know if this is stupid and if they kill my melees. most of the times i try killing their ranged = firing above the melees and later on keep on pushing otherwhere and / or flanking enemy melees and ranged. there is so much happening on the battlefield within seconds °.°.
it`s not really stupid it is really just about play style, as for killing your own troops it depends on the ranged units your using direct fire will usually cause friendly fire while indirect or volley type units won`t (or will at least cause much less). in the newer games it doesn`t matter so much because of the easy auto replenish. i prefer to keep my ranged in the front to get like you said those 2 maybe 3 early uninterrupted shots off before pulling them back while simultaneously bringing melee units forward to intercept the enemy. then i`ll usually swing my ranged units to the flanks to get the best shot at the enemy (ranged always does more damage in the backs of units). but of course every situation is different. If I where say taking up a defensive stance say on a hill or at a choke point I`ll keep them in the back from the start.
obviously for more range. and as the enemies melee starts getting to close you switch positions
Cheers man.
no battle tutorial. dont know what im meant to be doing in terms of tactics.....(edit) so this video is very helpful, thanks
really usefull tnx comander....:D
Please make some tactic videos for dealing with giants and spiders
Giant creatures are by far and large most vulnerable to ranged attacks. Archers can target them even when your melee units are engaged with little worry of hitting your own units. Plus, since these targets are quite large they will take damage from a lot more arrows than, say, a regular sized hero.
did you watch any of the slayer guides on total war's youtube page? they give pretty quick and easy rundowns on most big baddies in the game
Use throwaway units to box them in.
2-3 squads of spearmen take out a giant with ease.
Man I was like, this guy sounds just like luetin...
Thanks for the tips...
Really nice tips, mate! Please keep it up! =) Subd.
i suscribe and like for this video thx m8
just got the game going to give it a go =]
ive been doing a campaign on normal difficulty after not really playing much of the previous games. anyway i got to the "chaos" stage and really thought i was gonna lose as they seemed to take over the map with very powerful armies. as this was going on i noticed all other local factions suddenly wanted to be my friend, i accepted as i knew this would help (shame they dont turn so easy if it was the other way around) several turns later without even fighting a single chaos army we won. so is this all scripted and will the same thing likely happen again if i restart? also ive not even had a balanced fight yet. its either them with a way over powered army or me. and not having to really use strategy.
Well I´m playing imperial and I know most of the other imperial and dwarven factions which hated me suddenly wanted to make peace because most of them where closer to the chaos than I was - which meant that we both had a common enemy aswell as their power was shrinking because they where the main target of the chaos armies.
The problem is chaos is horde army so it really has no time to resupply their armies and just fizzle after destroying the closest factions...
when I played as the dwarfs the chaos destroyed the empire and the vc and came all the way down to the border princes
Thanks
thank you dude, i suck so bad at this game its my 1st total war game and im just losing so much =(
I've only been playing since Rome 2, and honestly there is so much to the game to learn. It took me ages to get the hang of it. Both the military side, and the economic/governing side.
flank, flank, flank, + Hammer & anvil= win every time, especially against ai.
blindwillie99 they do they have tutorials and the total war encyclopedia, if you want a really good general total war tutorial play medieval 2 or Rome 1 they both have good ones that teach the core concepts of battle.
Lol, these arent really 'essential tips'. this is just basic tactic information.
You kinda forgot the biggest tip in battles:
Set up armie, select the entire armie, dont group, and ALT + RIGHTCLICK to move your entire armie in correct formation forward.
basic information is essential information?? these are things that I regularly find people struggle with, a quick look at the comments would seem to confirm that so ... yeah.
"the melee archers"
Thanks great tips!
How did you deal with dwarfs as orcs? Im getting slaughtered
as what faction are you having problems
+Bjorn Bakker he said orcs
close the distance really Quick forse them into melee flank them with cav
Thanks :)
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