Hopefully this new CBA helps with that. NBA teams are too afraid of not giving max contracts to promising young players because they can just walk in free agency and if they match another teams offer, the player just becomes unhappy. Just look at Ayton, no where near worth what his contract is but pheonix had to match to keep him in the team but in the end he's unhappy and got traded. If teams are more warry of giving these ridiculous contracts, then hopefully that should embolden them to let the players hit free agency so the players see how much they are actually worth instead of being entitled to a max.
@@_GratefulBlessings99he’s not a superstar. Superstars can lead their teams to the playoffs by themselves. Jamal can’t. He’s no different than Kyrie. He’s an All Star-type of player (even though he’s never made an All Star team).
Under no circumstances is Jamal Murray a max contract player. MPJ is on a max contract, Joker is max, if you get Murray on a max contract, the Nuggets won't be able to afford a bench. Trade him or let him walk if he wants a max.
I would rather have Murray on my team than MPJ. TBF they were both terrible last playoffs. If they should trade someone then it should be MPJ imo. He's a one dimensional shoot first player. Murray could at least do ball handling duty.
Both Murray and MPJ are overrated. Denver needs to trade them as soon as possible and build a contending team around Jokic. As a fan, I'm sad they're wasting Jokic's prime.
Completely stupid. He is 100% a max player you’d be stupid to think otherwise. Hes better than mpj and he’s on a max so gtfoh. No reason Murray shouldn’t get the max. Trading mpj makes more sense than trading or letting Murray walk. NBA fans are something else 💀
I don’t think it’s the early childhood training. I think of curry. His dad was an nba player and no doubt taught and pushed his son a ton. Curry was famous for his work ethic, and he was injury prone in the beginning of his career. But many say it was his playstyle. He didn’t use lateral movement as much, he drove hard every time, he landed wrong. Then he changed all that and his injuries went down like crazy. Jamal needs to hire those crazy sports scientist, figure out what he is doing mechanically, fix it and play towards his best strengths
jamal just stubborn sometimes, he aint the smartest guy, he only plays well with momentum and he gets cold quick. i hate how he acts like he so tough every time he is doing something like that stuff just childish, just calm tf down and play ball. you are barely scoring shit. sometimes he doesn't even seem like he is thinking and just chucking. i think his attitude and mental is just holding him back fr.
@@iamtheonlywillyyeah I think I 95% agree, but remember his acl, dude was just going up to the basket. That’s why I honestly believe he is doing something mechanically incorrect or to strenuous from a bio mechanics point of view. It’s a big ask for someone to change their game but that’s just my belief. Even Luka credits sports science for helping improve his game. Jamal is right at the cusp of being great, I’m rooting for the dude even tho I’m a lakers fan lol hard to not like that Kobe like determination that he has in the clutch
I feel bad for joker if Murray doesn’t get his shit together it’s incredible how Nuggets won the championship Murray being the second best player behind joker
@@Therealtresad part is they’re not all bots, some are just people who are so simple minded, they look like bots. The braindead Gen Z’s that watch talentless streamers that sit in a chair say “Gyat gyat and dancing around their 10k worth of merchandise that bought with money they scammed out of kids , “streamers” like “Kai Cenat” and “Ishowspeed” What kind of people do you imagine sit in those streams spamming emotes and donating money and living through someone else’s life? Idiots
@@zionstan1700 Kitchener would be the 88th biggest city in the United States. Bigger than Glendale, Scottsdale, Tacoma, Salt Lake City lol. No way is it rural regardless if it's the US or Canada.
Jokic and De’Aaron Fox is very interesting. Considering how Jokic really elevates his guards like Jamal and Bogdanovic. Fox and Sabonis are a really good duo as well
Murray may have a more serious long-term condition like knee arthritis that we don't know about in addition to reported injuries. Something has cost him a step for sure. I'd wait until seeing if he can get back to form before signing it i were nuggets. But their front office has sucked since Tim Connelly left so don't expect smart decisions lol. Losing KCP might prove to be even worse than most people think, he was such a perfect fit for a Jokic lineup on both sides of floor.
I agreed w your comment until you brougt up Booth & KCP. Any new Mal contract should at minimum include incentives, injury clauses, etc. But the whole KCP thing....look, he was great for Denver...but that whole "Jokic makes everyone around him better" theory isn't a theory at all; it's the gospel truth. Losing KCP will hurt Denver, but they're big on Braun who will prove to be a capable replacement, at least on defense. Shooting? No, not from CB unless that part of his game takes a big leap, but they have Strawther for that. But KCP was exposed in the playoffs by Ant this last year. Ant bullied him constantly. But you know who replaced KCP to guard Ant better? Christian Braun. CB was athletic enough to keep up with Ant and had great lateral quickness. Much better than KCP. And now CB will get even better by playing with the starters and Nikola Jokic next to him. So this next year will prove whether KCP can keep the same numbers and production without Jokic helping him. I highly doubt that happens.
@@RS-ol8or Great points about Braun's emergence, and agree *totally* about Jokic effect on stats - but one thing jumps out at me big time : you're talking about two guys making up for KCP's role all by himself. The whole point was they had both those qualities AND very high court IQ from one man so they could also have Jokic, Gordon, Murray, and Porter on as well. You're replacement idea requires 1 of them not on floor which i think is a downgraded starting lineup - their offense really needs perimeter shooting from that 5th man & lockdown defense, *both*. But, maybe Braun can improve his perimeter shooting enough...i hope so!
@@allphornunn I hear ya on the two guys thing....I just think Booth realized the CBA was too cost prohibitive to resign KCP. They would of been in the 2nd apron if they did, which meant major penalties. Thus, they went with replacing him by a committee. It could work, potentially. Strawther will have more of a pivotal role this year. And last year, his defense was way better than expected and he flashed promise. Probably won't be as good as CB's D, but if Straw were to improve not only his 3 % but defense too, he could supplant CB.
Russ wont look any different than he has. He cant shoot, Jokic needs the ball to make the offense effective. I dont see how Russ affects the team at all
What are you on? It's over for Russ. He's 36, he's a role player/bench warmer at best. He's his worst enemy. No control, all reckless, low IQ. After all that he STILL made the nba top 75 team, got an MVP, broke the all time triple double record but it doesn't translate into winning
When he’s doing well, his father gets the credit for pushing his work ethic. When he’s hurt, his father gets blame for pushing his work ethic. Being a dad is tough.
His problem is that he’s too inconsistent. Jamal Murray is a good player and when he is hot he cooks. Also injuries has stopped him. It’s a mix of problems.
i remembers tons of lebron superfans complaining that denver won against LA because jokic has a superteam and murray was apparently the second coming of jesus (shuttlesworth) . yeah, they never saw the nuggets playing...
When they did the MPJ contract I knew it was a horrible idea I don’t get why the nuggets did that this isn’t on Jamal it’s the damn front office fault this is even a situation
I was mainly concerned about his injury history but he was very healthy the last couple of years. Unfortunately, he's just not max type player in the playoffs. He disappears too often.
@@randygraham926 yes I thought his injury history would be what he would struggle with dude just is inconsistent just jacks up and misses threes never passes or makes plays and awful on defense when he’s on he can go off for maybe 20 but that’s rare
Nuggets gave MPJ the max because of his potential. A 6'10 sniper is a rare commodity in the NBA and MPJ was still young when he signed the max. Their reasoning is probably that MPJ would walk if they didn't hand him the max. Nugget's owner Josh Kroenke also stated that the max contract was given to him before the new CBA was introduced. If you think about it from that perspective, it makes sense. The new CBA was ratified in 04/01/2023. MPJ signed the rookie scale extension way before on 09/29/2021. Another player, Tobias Harris, who happened to be a forward as well, also signed a 5 year max contract in the summer of 2019. So it wasn't out of one's mind that a young player with "potential" could be signed on a near max contract back then. Still, as a Nuggets fan, it's crazy a max contract to given to MPJ especially given his injury history. A more reasonable contract extension would be like a contract similar to what Jaden McDaniels got from the Timberwolves: 5 year 131 mil as opposed to a near 5 year 180 mil for MPJ. Again, this is under the assumption of the new CBA. Wolves already had 3 max players in Gobert, KAT, AND ANT on the roster. There was no way on earth McDaniels is getting anywhere near a max extension last October if he were to stay on the Wolves.
But like, if Jamal does not get the max, gets mad and leaves then the Nuggets are in an even worse spot. Superstars are not exactly lining up to go play in Denver, this is the best point guard we have had, why would we risk that?
Superstars aren’t lining up to play in Denver but they are lining up to play with Jokic. Even if his point about the nuggets not being contenders without there best player he is the highest floor raiser in the nba besides maybe Doncic. And Jamal Murray has never even been a all star we can find someone at that level or trade him for some quality role players that are gonna end up looking all nba next to Jokic anyways
@@MalachiFlynnfan38 Are they lining up to play with Jokic? Name one... The Market is allways at least as important as the star player. Hell, Denver couldnt even get a better Guard then Westbrook for the Tax MLE... Not even Dallas could get Allstars to sign with them like... ever! And thats one of the 5 biggest sports markets in the NBA in a Tax free State and had Dirk and now Luka as Stars. They have to keep Murray. If anything they have to find a good trade for Porter, whos contract is crippling the franchise. Dude is maybe worth 25 mio, but earns over 38 mio on average over the next 3 years.
Denver has Westbrook now. I really think Murray would be better at the 2 since he doesn’t really have the handles, at least not as good as Westbrook. Plus KCP left 😢 so that spot is open and Murray seems perfect for it.
man this nuggets fans really think its because of jokic that they won the title.... nope ... it was due to murray being healthy... if murray had been healthy this year playoffs then they would have won back to back..
My sneaky theory is that the Spurs want to add DeAaron Fox to their team, and that DeAaron will refuse to resign for the kings, and they will trade him to the Spurs. Mostly because the combo of Wemby/Fox pick and roll would be amazing
Stuff like this makes me realize, those runs by the early aughts Lakers, Lebron and the Warriors were rare and difficult to replicate. We haven’t had anything even CLOSE to a back to back since 2019
I've been saying it for years, Jokic's teammates are dog water. He inflates all their stats. just look at what happened to Bruce Brown when he left. same thing will happen to KCP this year.
I want to focus on a point here that is totally wrong. Jalen Brunson did not decrease "The Players" money making opportunity, what he did was move some of the money he would get to role players on his team. Basically his friends, because if you have a max like Brunson, that reduces flexibility for other players. However, players, as a group are guaranteed in the CBA to make 51%. This number doesn't move, Lebron could take a minimum deal, it wont matter to the players as a group. However, if star players now are upset Brunson showed what it means to sacrifice for your team to succeed, they can be upset at that. But "the players" are making the same regardless of an individual's decision. Only star players like Brunson are impacted by being compared to Brunson, because that's how great he is. And if he wins a title, yep maybe stars shouldn't take $200m when $130m would be plenty and allow you to bring guys who will win you titles
But I also do feel like they're gonna play it out with Westbrook and see if joker really makes everyone better and then maybe at the trade deadline will see what happens
nothing is wrong with him. he just cant live up to the media and marketing hype. he was never as good as they pretended like he was, but when the 3 biggest players are basically on their retirement tours you need to make new faces and stars to promote.
Murry never fully recovered from his hamstring injury and you could tell that from watching the games... The wolves match up as a nightmare for him.. their defender were taller, longer, and picked him up full court.. that disrupted his offense and rhythm.. Murry is good, but he is not an all-star or all NBA for a reason.
Hey, if you actually see the games the problem with Murray is that every playoff team was targeting him. They can't stop Joker, so they go for Jamal. That's why Gordon had huge games, is not like he can give you 20 in the playoffs consistently, teams were leaving him open to bother Murray, picking him full court, high doubles and basically wearing him down. And he took it like a champ. Again, no one is stopping Joker, but you have to do something and they just went for Jamal.
MPJ .... always seems like he could be elite .... but them disappears too often in the playoffs. But signing Zeke to $32 million was crazy. GM got lazy after they lost Brown and Green ... too many good teams in the West now.
Yeah, good question: Why did the players sign this deal? This will end with a smaller bag for everyone, except the few max-players - so why did the NBPA agree on this?
Big Denver fan here. This was mostly fair (until you got to the Russ narrative 😜) but here's some thoughts: 1 - Olympic Mal, yeah, he wasn't good at all. But to be fair, that was SGA's team & everything ran through him. Plus, Mal came off the bench & his role just didn't make sense. However, it's valid still that he wasn't good. 2 - There are two camps of Nuggets fans concerning Mal. One believes you can't let him get away & have to give him a supermax; the world will end if he allows to walk after this year. The other isn't happy with his injuries & disappearing act these last playoffs; I happen to fall in that latter group. Murray doesn't deserve a supermax & if the team does extend him, I hope they at least put safeguards in place like incentive-laden clauses, injury exceptions, etc. Would that involve a paycut? Maybe, with the Brunson point you made. But we just don't know what Mal is going to show up for Denver or if he'll get injured again, and the teams success is tied to good guard play next to Jok in the starter 1 spot. 3 - The "theory" that Jokic makes everyone around him better isn't a theory. It's a hard fact. Yet, that doesn't take away from having the necessity of above average guard play from Mal in the 2 man game, or AG's ability to be a swiss army knife, etc. 4 - Denver isn't a contender without Jokic?? No WAY! Come on....every contending team without their star isn't a contender either; it's not just Denver. Would OKC be a contender if they lost SGA for the year? How about Minny losing Ant for the year? Seriously.... 5 - Yeah, Murray's dad overtraining him might of played a part; tied to that is Mal's love of MMA and training w some of those guys. He did that after winning the chip & surprise surprise, came into training camp out of shape and got injured and couldn't shake it all year. Related?? Maybe 6 - Bro...we KNOW you hate Russ, but this is where you're video fell off. Booth envisions Russ to be a Bruce Brown type. Coming off the bench, giving you energy which feeds off the rest of the guys, defense & playmaking. That's all you need! That would be a big DUB for Denver's second unit if that happens. Nobody is expecting Jokic to "fix Russ" or for him to start shooting lights out at 3. There's potential he's at least as effective as BB was, if not even better. Let's be fair with a wait and see approach. 7 - D Fox instead of Murray?? Heck yes, I'd do that trade in a heartbeat. Throw in MPJ, too. "Here ya go, Kings..." This will also be MPJ's last year in Denver to prove us doubters wrong and shoot lights out. I predict if he DOESN'T have a near all star year this year, he's gone at the trade deadline. Zeke too. The Zeke contract is the one that's tied to Booth that left us fans scratching our heads. MPJ's contract was all Tim Connelly who's in MN now, so don't blame Booth for that one. Thank you for reading my dissertation.
Quick add: The team is REALLY big on rookie Trey Alexander, who coincidentally mirrored his game after Murray. Trey was the star of Summer League; kid looks quick, could create his own shots, can play the 1 or 2, and just flat out has an aura about him. Yeah, it's summer league and yeah, he's a rook, but if he continues to ball out look for him to get a few minutes off the bench this year to see if he's for real. I know Denver is most intrigued by him. Hot take: Mal gets traded before the deadline and Trey takes over for him full time next year. Kid's gonna be special.
im also hesitant for murray extension, even i know his good his performance is declining and you dont even know if he will had a great season or playoffs, boston chip should be denver if murray perform out of his mind.
Players with generational wealth and billionaire owners having problems with money might be the dumbest thing I have ever heard and it is frankly vomit inducing.
He is Klay of the Denver Nuggets. Both came back from horrible injury and won the title. The year later, they don't reach their potential and flop in the game that matter the most
"I'm damaged Goodies , damage me out the inventory coachy coach . I'm on my last ounce of bounce. It ain't wet no more ." 😂😂😂😂 .. " I'm just a trade . I used to only do 1 round , I'm a 2 rounder now . " -Jamal Murray
I'm not a diehard Westbrook fan -- especially at this stage of his career -- but wild that he is only getting 3 million a year while Zeke Naji, essentially useless, is making 8 million a year. 😂 Russ can still go out there and make some plays from time to time.
Why don't you just make a vid "Whats wrong with AM hoops?" Quality of this channel has decreased a ton the last months. Lebron and Stephs averages in the olympics were also pretty average compared to their NBA averages. It's because the Olympics aint the NBA.
I mean you didnt really name an exercise that his dad did that was different or that can cause increase injury chance. Push up in snow? Hows that suppose to increase his chance of injury? The horse stance hold with the tea cups are basically a wall sit without the wall. The teacups are there for balance. Cant really blame his father
Both Murray and MPJ are overrated. Denver needs to trade them as soon as possible and build a contending team around Jokic. As a fan, I'm sad they're wasting Jokic's prime.
Zeke Nnaji is I think the worst contract in the NBA when you compare career performance vs current deal (that includes Ben Simmons cause he was good once). But its even worse becasuse if Nnaji isn't on the team, they can give KCP his 8 million, and 8 million was the difference between his current Orlando deal and what he made last year in the Nuggets, so its not even a raise if they could move Nnaji
It's a head scratcher for sure since the FO could just hold on for that money even with the new CBA. I guess they hoped Nnaji could be better but yeah it went opposite currently.
@@shamsielshahar120 Why would they even want to pay a backup center that wont get more than 5 minutes in the playoffs? That's the problem. They spent money on a backup center. Lets say he gets better, he is still not getting minutes because Jokic is there. It was a stupid decision on every level
I think other teams know Murray is benefitting massively from Jokic and will not provide any packages that fit Denver’s needs to remain competitive. Think like Draymond in GS, albeit to a lesser extent.
Every game I've checked the box score, and Jamal was 8/22, 9/22, 7/20 etc. He has trouble with shoot selection. Second Klay Thomson. The difference is he is still in his prime. However, being poor on defense, he can not contribute in any other way. For example, Lebron can have an awful shooting night, and people will still say he had a good game. Jamal is trying to shoot his way. That's a problem.
"Look at Serbia" yeah dude you obviously haven't been paying attention to the Southeast division. You'd know how good Bogdanovic and Micic were if you did. They have both had stellar games on some _very_ iffy teams and would play the same way with any good player. Jovic is the only one who saw extreme improvement imo.
He was always nothing more than role player but playing with Jokic, he sometimes looked like a star. When Jokic use his body to block players Murray can get rebound, when he pass to Jokic he get easy assist, when Jokic pass to him, he get easy buckets. Inflated numbers and i don't hate on him, just saying truth..that hero ball shoting, he's not even above avrage shoter but he's taking them a lot. Nuggets are in trouble with his and MPJs contracts. You got to feel sorry for Joker tho, every super-star has one all-star with him, Luka-Kyrie, Embiid-PG-Maxey, Giannis-Dame, Tattum-Brown, Ant-KAT, Durant-Booker-Beal, LeBron-AD..only he has these bums on max contracts.
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Also how about these dumbass teams stop giving oux max contracts to role players and save that $$ for the actual superstars
Players are too greedy for that. It needs to be done, though.
Hopefully this new CBA helps with that. NBA teams are too afraid of not giving max contracts to promising young players because they can just walk in free agency and if they match another teams offer, the player just becomes unhappy. Just look at Ayton, no where near worth what his contract is but pheonix had to match to keep him in the team but in the end he's unhappy and got traded. If teams are more warry of giving these ridiculous contracts, then hopefully that should embolden them to let the players hit free agency so the players see how much they are actually worth instead of being entitled to a max.
Jamal Murray Is A Superstar. Everything else is just noise. He’s one of the top 5 point guards in the nba today. They should’ve never give MPJ a max.
@@_GratefulBlessings99he’s not a superstar. Superstars can lead their teams to the playoffs by themselves. Jamal can’t. He’s no different than Kyrie. He’s an All Star-type of player (even though he’s never made an All Star team).
@@_GratefulBlessings99he’s never even been an all star lol
Under no circumstances is Jamal Murray a max contract player. MPJ is on a max contract, Joker is max, if you get Murray on a max contract, the Nuggets won't be able to afford a bench. Trade him or let him walk if he wants a max.
@@naeso9994you’re dating nba players???
I would rather have Murray on my team than MPJ. TBF they were both terrible last playoffs. If they should trade someone then it should be MPJ imo. He's a one dimensional shoot first player. Murray could at least do ball handling duty.
Both Murray and MPJ are overrated. Denver needs to trade them as soon as possible and build a contending team around Jokic. As a fan, I'm sad they're wasting Jokic's prime.
Completely stupid. He is 100% a max player you’d be stupid to think otherwise. Hes better than mpj and he’s on a max so gtfoh. No reason Murray shouldn’t get the max. Trading mpj makes more sense than trading or letting Murray walk. NBA fans are something else 💀
@@Maver1ck101 wasting? They just won last year. They aren’t wasting shit. Wth is wrong with these takes? 😭🤦🏽♂️
Jamal’s dad sounds brutal 😭
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I don’t think it’s the early childhood training. I think of curry. His dad was an nba player and no doubt taught and pushed his son a ton. Curry was famous for his work ethic, and he was injury prone in the beginning of his career. But many say it was his playstyle. He didn’t use lateral movement as much, he drove hard every time, he landed wrong. Then he changed all that and his injuries went down like crazy. Jamal needs to hire those crazy sports scientist, figure out what he is doing mechanically, fix it and play towards his best strengths
jamal just stubborn sometimes, he aint the smartest guy, he only plays well with momentum and he gets cold quick. i hate how he acts like he so tough every time he is doing something like that stuff just childish, just calm tf down and play ball. you are barely scoring shit. sometimes he doesn't even seem like he is thinking and just chucking. i think his attitude and mental is just holding him back fr.
I think Murray is getting too old to be making some of his mistakes about his health.
@@iamtheonlywillyyeah I think I 95% agree, but remember his acl, dude was just going up to the basket. That’s why I honestly believe he is doing something mechanically incorrect or to strenuous from a bio mechanics point of view. It’s a big ask for someone to change their game but that’s just my belief. Even Luka credits sports science for helping improve his game. Jamal is right at the cusp of being great, I’m rooting for the dude even tho I’m a lakers fan lol hard to not like that Kobe like determination that he has in the clutch
@@lustylusty180yeah attitude and mental part is so essential, I would agree with you as well
He's half Syrian, like not saying but like, yah he's from Kitchener which is poser town, wash .. Mavs going all the way
who misses NBA bubble Jamal Murray?
I feel bad for joker if Murray doesn’t get his shit together it’s incredible how Nuggets won the championship Murray being the second best player behind joker
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@@Therealtresad part is they’re not all bots, some are just people who are so simple minded, they look like bots. The braindead Gen Z’s that watch talentless streamers that sit in a chair say “Gyat gyat and dancing around their 10k worth of merchandise that bought with money they scammed out of kids , “streamers” like “Kai Cenat” and “Ishowspeed”
What kind of people do you imagine sit in those streams spamming emotes and donating money and living through someone else’s life? Idiots
They must’ve watched is on x5 speed n skipped a lil.
Yeah that mpj max is sickening
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no way you just called Kitchener "rural Canada" XD. 250k people live there, more people than Salt Lake City
250k is different in Canada than in the us tbh
fr i live there and it is the opposite of rural
@@zionstan1700 Kitchener would be the 88th biggest city in the United States. Bigger than Glendale, Scottsdale, Tacoma, Salt Lake City lol. No way is it rural regardless if it's the US or Canada.
Even Lincoln On ain't rural.
to americans, anything that isn't Toronto, Montreal or Vancouver is 'rural'.
MPJ on a max is wild
Jokic and De’Aaron Fox is very interesting. Considering how Jokic really elevates his guards like Jamal and Bogdanovic. Fox and Sabonis are a really good duo as well
Murray may have a more serious long-term condition like knee arthritis that we don't know about in addition to reported injuries. Something has cost him a step for sure. I'd wait until seeing if he can get back to form before signing it i were nuggets. But their front office has sucked since Tim Connelly left so don't expect smart decisions lol. Losing KCP might prove to be even worse than most people think, he was such a perfect fit for a Jokic lineup on both sides of floor.
I agreed w your comment until you brougt up Booth & KCP. Any new Mal contract should at minimum include incentives, injury clauses, etc.
But the whole KCP thing....look, he was great for Denver...but that whole "Jokic makes everyone around him better" theory isn't a theory at all; it's the gospel truth. Losing KCP will hurt Denver, but they're big on Braun who will prove to be a capable replacement, at least on defense. Shooting? No, not from CB unless that part of his game takes a big leap, but they have Strawther for that. But KCP was exposed in the playoffs by Ant this last year. Ant bullied him constantly. But you know who replaced KCP to guard Ant better? Christian Braun. CB was athletic enough to keep up with Ant and had great lateral quickness. Much better than KCP. And now CB will get even better by playing with the starters and Nikola Jokic next to him.
So this next year will prove whether KCP can keep the same numbers and production without Jokic helping him. I highly doubt that happens.
@@RS-ol8or Great points about Braun's emergence, and agree *totally* about Jokic effect on stats - but one thing jumps out at me big time : you're talking about two guys making up for KCP's role all by himself. The whole point was they had both those qualities AND very high court IQ from one man so they could also have Jokic, Gordon, Murray, and Porter on as well. You're replacement idea requires 1 of them not on floor which i think is a downgraded starting lineup - their offense really needs perimeter shooting from that 5th man & lockdown defense, *both*. But, maybe Braun can improve his perimeter shooting enough...i hope so!
@@allphornunn I hear ya on the two guys thing....I just think Booth realized the CBA was too cost prohibitive to resign KCP. They would of been in the 2nd apron if they did, which meant major penalties. Thus, they went with replacing him by a committee.
It could work, potentially. Strawther will have more of a pivotal role this year. And last year, his defense was way better than expected and he flashed promise. Probably won't be as good as CB's D, but if Straw were to improve not only his 3 % but defense too, he could supplant CB.
@@RS-ol8or idk definitely hope you're right...their games were damn fun to watch when they were rolling!
I personally think Jamal will be fine, playing thru injury is extremely difficult, especially at a high level
If there is a playmaker who can make Russ into a star once more it is Jokic
Russ wont look any different than he has. He cant shoot, Jokic needs the ball to make the offense effective. I dont see how Russ affects the team at all
Lebron couldn’t even make it happen lol
This is not 2k lil bro, dimers in not a real thing
What are you on? It's over for Russ. He's 36, he's a role player/bench warmer at best. He's his worst enemy. No control, all reckless, low IQ. After all that he STILL made the nba top 75 team, got an MVP, broke the all time triple double record but it doesn't translate into winning
I genuinely won't be surprised if Russ take Murray's spot in the starting 5. probably won't happen, but it wouldn't shock me, either.
Goated vs the Lakers, mid vs everyone else trash in the Olympics
5:07 like the balls 😂😂😂😂
When he’s doing well, his father gets the credit for pushing his work ethic. When he’s hurt, his father gets blame for pushing his work ethic.
Being a dad is tough.
They do the same thing to Lavar ball
0:30 self discipline? i guess you forgot about that IG story
Wdym
@@PointGod_stay unknowing i beg🙏
I fucking hate the internet now. Like anyone is supposed to know what the fuck that means
Jokic needs more praise for winning a chip with Murray as his number 2. It’s like if Dame won a chip with McCollum.
You are disrespecting Murray also the nuggets supporting cast is better than Dame ever had on the blazers bro
Yeah what??😂
Y’all find anyway possible to glaze Jokic😭
Dame was never anywhere near Yokic's level, but I get your point.
u really compared Jokic to Dame and Murray to McCollum
Mann watch next season Jamal Murray will have an redemption season
His problem is that he’s too inconsistent. Jamal Murray is a good player and when he is hot he cooks. Also injuries has stopped him. It’s a mix of problems.
always a good day when am hoops drops a vid
Off season rank or a vid where you talk about a trade every trade a team needs to make please thanks man
i remembers tons of lebron superfans complaining that denver won against LA because jokic has a superteam and murray was apparently the second coming of jesus (shuttlesworth) . yeah, they never saw the nuggets playing...
Anytime a team wins someone calls that team a super team
jamal murray was injured ..... in all playoffs.... if jamal was not injured then they would have won back to back.
the mpj contract cooked us
Tough to call Kitchener, Ontario (City of 256,885 people, Metro area of 575,847) "Rural Canada" lol
I’ll put it this way, most of his contemporaries like RJ and Wiggins went to HS in the US for basketball reasons. Jamal chose to stay in Kitchener.
@@AMHoopsBad analogy bro. Guess LBJ played in rural Ohio too
@@AMHoops That doesnt explain anything lol, suck it up admit you made a mistake instead of digging a deeper hole.
When they did the MPJ contract I knew it was a horrible idea I don’t get why the nuggets did that this isn’t on Jamal it’s the damn front office fault this is even a situation
I was mainly concerned about his injury history but he was very healthy the last couple of years. Unfortunately, he's just not max type player in the playoffs. He disappears too often.
@@randygraham926 yes I thought his injury history would be what he would struggle with dude just is inconsistent just jacks up and misses threes never passes or makes plays and awful on defense when he’s on he can go off for maybe 20 but that’s rare
Nuggets gave MPJ the max because of his potential. A 6'10 sniper is a rare commodity in the NBA and MPJ was still young when he signed the max. Their reasoning is probably that MPJ would walk if they didn't hand him the max. Nugget's owner Josh Kroenke also stated that the max contract was given to him before the new CBA was introduced. If you think about it from that perspective, it makes sense. The new CBA was ratified in 04/01/2023. MPJ signed the rookie scale extension way before on 09/29/2021. Another player, Tobias Harris, who happened to be a forward as well, also signed a 5 year max contract in the summer of 2019. So it wasn't out of one's mind that a young player with "potential" could be signed on a near max contract back then. Still, as a Nuggets fan, it's crazy a max contract to given to MPJ especially given his injury history. A more reasonable contract extension would be like a contract similar to what Jaden McDaniels got from the Timberwolves: 5 year 131 mil as opposed to a near 5 year 180 mil for MPJ. Again, this is under the assumption of the new CBA. Wolves already had 3 max players in Gobert, KAT, AND ANT on the roster. There was no way on earth McDaniels is getting anywhere near a max extension last October if he were to stay on the Wolves.
@@LLawliet-tv9ig love this comment great analysis
But like, if Jamal does not get the max, gets mad and leaves then the Nuggets are in an even worse spot. Superstars are not exactly lining up to go play in Denver, this is the best point guard we have had, why would we risk that?
Superstars aren’t lining up to play in Denver but they are lining up to play with Jokic. Even if his point about the nuggets not being contenders without there best player he is the highest floor raiser in the nba besides maybe Doncic. And Jamal Murray has never even been a all star we can find someone at that level or trade him for some quality role players that are gonna end up looking all nba next to Jokic anyways
@@MalachiFlynnfan38 Are they lining up to play with Jokic? Name one...
The Market is allways at least as important as the star player. Hell, Denver couldnt even get a better Guard then Westbrook for the Tax MLE... Not even Dallas could get Allstars to sign with them like... ever! And thats one of the 5 biggest sports markets in the NBA in a Tax free State and had Dirk and now Luka as Stars.
They have to keep Murray. If anything they have to find a good trade for Porter, whos contract is crippling the franchise. Dude is maybe worth 25 mio, but earns over 38 mio on average over the next 3 years.
Denver has Westbrook now. I really think Murray would be better at the 2 since he doesn’t really have the handles, at least not as good as Westbrook. Plus KCP left 😢 so that spot is open and Murray seems perfect for it.
@@samb123078 Westbrook has handles ?
@@michaelkay5268 lets me cope
Yall got Murray confused. He had a hit streak in the 2023 playoffs and now he’s just playing how he normally plays.
"teams are afraid to spend"
celtics: hold my 500M luxury tax
They’re selling the team
Also Celtics: Wanna buy a team? 😂
Clippers: let’s lose the 2/3 best player on the team because of the tax.
@@RS-ol8orif Bezos is really buying the Celtics he can foot that bill easily
@@BeeEhlDoce sure, if true. But going into the 2nd apron tax for any team is shear stupidity. Major penalties.
I would have liked Patti Mills as a backup if he didn't signed with Utah.
Never been this early. Love A.M Hoops
The nuggets could NOT trade Jamal Murray for Trae or Fox that’s crazy 😂
It’d take Murray plus picks to make that happen, and I don’t see any way Sacramento gives up Fox.
Murray + MPJ. That's more than enough value.
@@RS-ol8orthat’s two players who ether has a max or probably wants one. Also MPJ
is inconsistent and Murray is injury prone.
@@RS-ol8orthat’s two players who ether has a max or probably wants one. Also MPJ
is inconsistent and Murray is injury prone.
man this nuggets fans really think its because of jokic that they won the title....
nope ... it was due to murray being healthy... if murray had been healthy this year playoffs then they would have won back to back..
My sneaky theory is that the Spurs want to add DeAaron Fox to their team, and that DeAaron will refuse to resign for the kings, and they will trade him to the Spurs. Mostly because the combo of Wemby/Fox pick and roll would be amazing
whats with the quality am hoops, its capped at 720p solid vid other than that 🐐
Stuff like this makes me realize, those runs by the early aughts Lakers, Lebron and the Warriors were rare and difficult to replicate. We haven’t had anything even CLOSE to a back to back since 2019
Great Video Casey 🫡🏀🔥🎯💯
I've been saying it for years, Jokic's teammates are dog water. He inflates all their stats. just look at what happened to Bruce Brown when he left. same thing will happen to KCP this year.
I want to focus on a point here that is totally wrong. Jalen Brunson did not decrease "The Players" money making opportunity, what he did was move some of the money he would get to role players on his team. Basically his friends, because if you have a max like Brunson, that reduces flexibility for other players. However, players, as a group are guaranteed in the CBA to make 51%. This number doesn't move, Lebron could take a minimum deal, it wont matter to the players as a group. However, if star players now are upset Brunson showed what it means to sacrifice for your team to succeed, they can be upset at that. But "the players" are making the same regardless of an individual's decision. Only star players like Brunson are impacted by being compared to Brunson, because that's how great he is. And if he wins a title, yep maybe stars shouldn't take $200m when $130m would be plenty and allow you to bring guys who will win you titles
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But I also do feel like they're gonna play it out with Westbrook and see if joker really makes everyone better and then maybe at the trade deadline will see what happens
nothing is wrong with him. he just cant live up to the media and marketing hype. he was never as good as they pretended like he was, but when the 3 biggest players are basically on their retirement tours you need to make new faces and stars to promote.
Awesome content!
Fox and Jokic would be INSANE
Murry never fully recovered from his hamstring injury and you could tell that from watching the games... The wolves match up as a nightmare for him.. their defender were taller, longer, and picked him up full court.. that disrupted his offense and rhythm.. Murry is good, but he is not an all-star or all NBA for a reason.
Hey, if you actually see the games the problem with Murray is that every playoff team was targeting him. They can't stop Joker, so they go for Jamal. That's why Gordon had huge games, is not like he can give you 20 in the playoffs consistently, teams were leaving him open to bother Murray, picking him full court, high doubles and basically wearing him down. And he took it like a champ. Again, no one is stopping Joker, but you have to do something and they just went for Jamal.
MPJ .... always seems like he could be elite .... but them disappears too often in the playoffs. But signing Zeke to $32 million was crazy. GM got lazy after they lost Brown and Green ... too many good teams in the West now.
Yeah, good question: Why did the players sign this deal? This will end with a smaller bag for everyone, except the few max-players - so why did the NBPA agree on this?
Because they can smoke weed now 💀
Do a grizzlies vid next
The thought of potentially losing AG scares me more than losing Mal & MPJ combined.
the MPJ contract is a huge issue 4 the Nuggets
Not everybody gone be on all the time , we should have this same energy when he's doing good
Big Denver fan here. This was mostly fair (until you got to the Russ narrative 😜) but here's some thoughts:
1 - Olympic Mal, yeah, he wasn't good at all. But to be fair, that was SGA's team & everything ran through him. Plus, Mal came off the bench & his role just didn't make sense. However, it's valid still that he wasn't good.
2 - There are two camps of Nuggets fans concerning Mal. One believes you can't let him get away & have to give him a supermax; the world will end if he allows to walk after this year. The other isn't happy with his injuries & disappearing act these last playoffs; I happen to fall in that latter group.
Murray doesn't deserve a supermax & if the team does extend him, I hope they at least put safeguards in place like incentive-laden clauses, injury exceptions, etc. Would that involve a paycut? Maybe, with the Brunson point you made. But we just don't know what Mal is going to show up for Denver or if he'll get injured again, and the teams success is tied to good guard play next to Jok in the starter 1 spot.
3 - The "theory" that Jokic makes everyone around him better isn't a theory. It's a hard fact. Yet, that doesn't take away from having the necessity of above average guard play from Mal in the 2 man game, or AG's ability to be a swiss army knife, etc.
4 - Denver isn't a contender without Jokic?? No WAY! Come on....every contending team without their star isn't a contender either; it's not just Denver. Would OKC be a contender if they lost SGA for the year? How about Minny losing Ant for the year? Seriously....
5 - Yeah, Murray's dad overtraining him might of played a part; tied to that is Mal's love of MMA and training w some of those guys. He did that after winning the chip & surprise surprise, came into training camp out of shape and got injured and couldn't shake it all year. Related?? Maybe
6 - Bro...we KNOW you hate Russ, but this is where you're video fell off. Booth envisions Russ to be a Bruce Brown type. Coming off the bench, giving you energy which feeds off the rest of the guys, defense & playmaking. That's all you need! That would be a big DUB for Denver's second unit if that happens. Nobody is expecting Jokic to "fix Russ" or for him to start shooting lights out at 3. There's potential he's at least as effective as BB was, if not even better. Let's be fair with a wait and see approach.
7 - D Fox instead of Murray?? Heck yes, I'd do that trade in a heartbeat. Throw in MPJ, too. "Here ya go, Kings..." This will also be MPJ's last year in Denver to prove us doubters wrong and shoot lights out. I predict if he DOESN'T have a near all star year this year, he's gone at the trade deadline. Zeke too. The Zeke contract is the one that's tied to Booth that left us fans scratching our heads. MPJ's contract was all Tim Connelly who's in MN now, so don't blame Booth for that one.
Thank you for reading my dissertation.
Quick add: The team is REALLY big on rookie Trey Alexander, who coincidentally mirrored his game after Murray. Trey was the star of Summer League; kid looks quick, could create his own shots, can play the 1 or 2, and just flat out has an aura about him. Yeah, it's summer league and yeah, he's a rook, but if he continues to ball out look for him to get a few minutes off the bench this year to see if he's for real. I know Denver is most intrigued by him.
Hot take: Mal gets traded before the deadline and Trey takes over for him full time next year. Kid's gonna be special.
Keep up the good work😊
You guys realise that, now that he covered Murray, he's going to have an all-star year right? 🤣
im also hesitant for murray extension, even i know his good his performance is declining and you dont even know if he will had a great season or playoffs, boston chip should be denver if murray perform out of his mind.
Noo!!! He took out the time thing at the bottom that shows when the promo is over
Jamal Murray need stay healthy next season & prove he's HATERS 💪🔥💪
Smaller bag? I'd love to exchange my salary to any of these star players' "smaller bag".
Love ur videos
Players with generational wealth and billionaire owners having problems with money might be the dumbest thing I have ever heard and it is frankly vomit inducing.
If Fox went to Denver, either Joker or Fox would win MVP. Fox would be insane at Denver.
He is Klay of the Denver Nuggets. Both came back from horrible injury and won the title. The year later, they don't reach their potential and flop in the game that matter the most
My goat AM Hoops
"I'm damaged Goodies , damage me out the inventory coachy coach . I'm on my last ounce of bounce. It ain't wet no more ." 😂😂😂😂 .. " I'm just a trade . I used to only do 1 round , I'm a 2 rounder now . " -Jamal Murray
He needs to step up in the playoffs
He normally does tbf
I'm not a diehard Westbrook fan -- especially at this stage of his career -- but wild that he is only getting 3 million a year while Zeke Naji, essentially useless, is making 8 million a year. 😂
Russ can still go out there and make some plays from time to time.
Why don't you just make a vid "Whats wrong with AM hoops?"
Quality of this channel has decreased a ton the last months.
Lebron and Stephs averages in the olympics were also pretty average compared to their NBA averages. It's because the Olympics aint the NBA.
i remember when people said he was a top 15 player that aged well not even top 25
Man this guy is a big game money player!! I’d rather have his resume than a couple of all star games!! Give him his respect!!
The owners should have negotiated for the max to be a smaller percentage of the cap. That's the real issue.
I mean you didnt really name an exercise that his dad did that was different or that can cause increase injury chance. Push up in snow? Hows that suppose to increase his chance of injury? The horse stance hold with the tea cups are basically a wall sit without the wall. The teacups are there for balance. Cant really blame his father
Jamal Muirray is my favorite nba player
Both Murray and MPJ are overrated. Denver needs to trade them as soon as possible and build a contending team around Jokic. As a fan, I'm sad they're wasting Jokic's prime.
Zeke Nnaji is I think the worst contract in the NBA when you compare career performance vs current deal (that includes Ben Simmons cause he was good once). But its even worse becasuse if Nnaji isn't on the team, they can give KCP his 8 million, and 8 million was the difference between his current Orlando deal and what he made last year in the Nuggets, so its not even a raise if they could move Nnaji
It's a head scratcher for sure since the FO could just hold on for that money even with the new CBA. I guess they hoped Nnaji could be better but yeah it went opposite currently.
@@shamsielshahar120 Why would they even want to pay a backup center that wont get more than 5 minutes in the playoffs? That's the problem. They spent money on a backup center. Lets say he gets better, he is still not getting minutes because Jokic is there. It was a stupid decision on every level
Contract should have clause, they can give max but need to have it, you should like play like 70 games, hit this stats and awards.
Great vid
They were never going to give Murray the max. They’re just using his Olympic performance and the new CBA as an excuse
I think other teams know Murray is benefitting massively from Jokic and will not provide any packages that fit Denver’s needs to remain competitive. Think like Draymond in GS, albeit to a lesser extent.
Let him become a free agent. See if he bounces back this year. What other teams are looking to max him next year?
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Murray's about to make Brunson look greedy
I always skip that cringe underdog crap🤷
Are the nuggets a playoff team without Jokic?
Is OKC a playoff team without SGA? Is Minny a playoff team without Ant? Is....
@@RS-ol8or Minnesota is for sure playoff team without ant
@@Mitke420 😆
Shout out to baseball for not being scared to strike or what they want
143 points in 3 games is nuts
Every game I've checked the box score, and Jamal was 8/22, 9/22, 7/20 etc. He has trouble with shoot selection. Second Klay Thomson. The difference is he is still in his prime. However, being poor on defense, he can not contribute in any other way. For example, Lebron can have an awful shooting night, and people will still say he had a good game. Jamal is trying to shoot his way. That's a problem.
Brooo keep coming for Westbrook like jokic didn’t request for him himself 💀💀
Yeah Jok specifically said he'd love Russ. That, alone, sold me.
Kitchener is not rural Canada lol
"Look at Serbia" yeah dude you obviously haven't been paying attention to the Southeast division. You'd know how good Bogdanovic and Micic were if you did. They have both had stellar games on some _very_ iffy teams and would play the same way with any good player. Jovic is the only one who saw extreme improvement imo.
Denver won the title last year. You extend your Superstars that got you the first one. Like why does every team have to act like the Lakers
Lakers are how you obviously do NOT run a franchise. They're a joke now.
But they lost good role players and got mid ones in return plus if Murray gets a max they won’t have money to pay Aaron Gordon the amount he wants.
@@coolguyman2047bro who tf do u think Gordon is💀So ur telling me we get rid of Jamal so we can keep AG?😭
Murray was so afraid of being traded because he knows damn well he is an average Joe anywhere else. Which is kind of an insult to average Joes.
He was always nothing more than role player but playing with Jokic, he sometimes looked like a star. When Jokic use his body to block players Murray can get rebound, when he pass to Jokic he get easy assist, when Jokic pass to him, he get easy buckets. Inflated numbers and i don't hate on him, just saying truth..that hero ball shoting, he's not even above avrage shoter but he's taking them a lot. Nuggets are in trouble with his and MPJs contracts. You got to feel sorry for Joker tho, every super-star has one all-star with him, Luka-Kyrie, Embiid-PG-Maxey, Giannis-Dame, Tattum-Brown, Ant-KAT, Durant-Booker-Beal, LeBron-AD..only he has these bums on max contracts.
"But like the balls, Jamal's hard work paid off"
i don't think they'll trade jamal, but if at the deadline they offer him it will shake the league