Spider Man Kills The Marvel Universe
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Peter getting his licks back for all the horrible things the marvel universe has made him endure.
And even now, he had a sad ending. Man cannot catch a break
Murder is not payback for bad things that happen to a person.
@@jacksonjack7838 depends on the reason
@@ripleyfry2107 👏
@@ripleyfry2107 aight. Just gonna kill and cannibalize the next asshole who talks to me just like my hero, Spider-man.
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Even when Spider-Man's Spider Sense gets a glowup and a glowing recommendation for it's ability to help him survive an apocalypse, he still gets shot in the head. Every time...
😂
I was just thinkin that. Bro didnt even try to dodge for mary janes sake. Spidey sense just didnt work i guess.
Spiderman's spider sense doesn't force him to move out the way he is only aware of the danger. My guess is in the moment while Spiderman was celebrating he ignored his spider sense.
@@kappadarwin9476 that’s just a dumb excuse. You praise spidersense as the reason why he survived out of every superhero halfway the run just to end it like this
@Dan Zrt its been said before if spiderman is fatigued or distracted it wont go off.
One thing I liked about this comic was just how huge Spiderman had become. He always had that default superhero physique, but the man has spent years on a Keto diet chowing down on protein and it left him bulky as hell.
Bro got swoll
All that broccoli and tren sandwiches
Lmboo😂
He has to look normal so he doesn’t stick out
@@yourfathersinferioritycomplexfr
God this story was insane. The end of stark was horrible. Literally starved to death inside a prison of iron. As someone who is claustrophobic literally gave me the chills
I’d like to think he had to poop and the suit wasn’t working so he drowned.
@@Shitbird3249 God don't even say anything else man. You're giving me the chills
Its also sad that no one could get him out of the suit despite his pleas showing how dire the situation was at the time.
@@kappadarwin9476 god I'm getting goosebumps hearing that
tbh stark was gone. Tony had turned which is why he couldnt get out of the suit as the suit shut down as a protocol and not smart enough anymore
No way spiderman didn't let Frank kill him. With his spider sense and abilities he could have easily dodged the bullet and taken Frank out.
Okay we get it, you’re a meat rider
Was thinking the same thing maybe the virus affected it?
@@Dosei236 Cant, the dude himself said the spider sense is what made spiderman so powerful in the tribe world
The ending is the result of SHITTY writing. I would have had it so that Spider-man's spider sense kicked in when Punisher tried to pull the gun on him. Then I would have had Spider slam the gun into Punisher's temple. When Punisher falls to the ground, the gun fires and Frank's head just explodes. Then Spider-Man lives happily.
Bro I was like “OH NAHHHH” because that is actually some bullshit right there.
"I know you guys love it when horrible things happen to the superheroes"
Not Spider-Man Rob, it's become downright trite seeing bad things happen to Spider-Man
It's just sad to see what happens to Pete man..
@@kingmuizz708 especially when it's bs writing like the authors conveninently forgetting that Spidey has spider-sense, just so that the Punisher could give him the cheapest of deaths.
The writers always do spiderman dirty too in these types of comics
DP kills the marvel universe: gets his face blown off
Punisher kills the marvel universe: gets his face blown off
Punisher again: gets shot in the face
The Ultimate Universe: gets shot again
@@ayaanmirza1677 ultimate isn't like this but yeah
It’s like a sick “torture porn” inside joke to Marvel Comic’s staff at this point. The only time we see him get a win is media outside of comics which is good but also sucks because the 616 Spidey never got a win since the 90’s
like you stated: its a comic and who cares, but it kinda bugs me that characters with insane healing abilities can succumb to a virus/disease.
so then it also should be possible to kill them with a virus/disease.
What's the point of consuming any story at all if we're just going to ignore internal consistency?
Not to mention a lor of other inconsistencies, the Iron Man suit has failsafes in case his software bugs out since the 70s, Spider-Man has spider-sense that would obviously make him dodge the gunshot, Iceman is biologically immune to most diseases due to his near absolute zero body temperature, Professor X, Jean Gray, and even Emma Frost would absolutely be able to hold these psychologically simple cannibals, unless they were the patient 0... I know it's the narrative purposed, but it's so absolutely dumb.
During Marvel Universe vs Wolverine, which is another comic set in this same universe, it's stated that people with healing factors have some resistance against the virus. Wolverine, for example, it's infected pretty early on, but manages to stay himself through it. Deadpool is another example. He is able to fight back against if if he wants to, he just... doesn't. Which does bug me a little.
@@Malthizar that's the point of what ifs and Else world story just to tell interesting concepts without being restricted
@@LEOODARTHVADER2 The Iron Man suit locking up WAS the failsafe, he got infected and it shut down.
Wolverine actually survived his fight with the Hulk, just had that arm ripped off but then retreated to Antartica and found Reed Richards, T'Challa and the surviving Science team who were looking for a cure for the virus.
I love that Rob is incapable of mentioning Black Bolt without ripping on him 🤣
At this point if he doesn't do it, I feel like he has lost his fastball
I mean can anyone talk about old Bitch Boi without insulting him?
What he do?
@@turtato2155Fr I thought blackbotl was cool
@@dosa3663 He's managed to simultaneously be underrated and overrated lol.
Spider-Man gets more crap thrown at him than Nightwing
My two favorite characters both get shitty lives
Spider-Man is Spider-Cuck now 😭
@@joshinthesauce4636 all thanks to that bitch Paul
@@joshinthesauce4636 who wanted to self insert so bad he ruined Marvel comics
Let's throw in Wally West too. They just killed him again for the 3rd time
Spider-Man's spidey-sense is like Flash's superspeed: plot driven.
It always bugged me with Iron man locked in his suit; you would think as smart and a futurist as Tony is that he would have Failsafes in case these things happen. Because you can be damn sure, any version of Stark….including superior iron man (Douche bag stark) would have failsafes on top of failsafes because he would be too selfish (or stubborn) to die so haphazardly…..
He didn’t download the newest update
It’s cause he subsumed to the pathogen. So by the time his suit died pretty much he became infected so he didn’t have the know how on to get out.
I could see the suit AI detecting his infection and locking down because of that. I'm probably wrong but I could see that being a failsafe too.
Thing is, if there's a manual way to open the suit when it's powered down like that, it means it's something that can be exploited on the outside. I think weighing the pros and cons, Tony would go with it's better to be locked inside the suit, than it is to have a secret way you can get it off with manual force.
There's pros and cons to everything.... I think Tony weighed the idea of a Villain being able to figure out how to peel his suit off as being more dangerous than getting locked inside of it with absolutely no one in the world being able to help him.
You could chalk it up to there not needed a situation for him to get out bet eh comics
Rob I'm super disappointed that you didn't mention Wolverines part in all of this. Wolverine is still alive and one of the few that are immune and he along with Reed Richards are out there trying to to find a cure. The Hulk bit off Wolverines hand but he didn't eat him. The story is called Wolverine vs the Marvel Universe.
I think he only talked about the first run in this universe which is called the Marvel Universe vs the Punisher. The comic you mention was a follow-up in the same universe where I think Wolverine was retconned into being alive. Correct me if I'm wrong tho, memory could be hazy
@@wheeledion memory could be hazy. Call me crazy. I had sex with a girl named daisy. I was lazy, lets goo babyy
Thank you, both of you. Couldn't figure out the name and it was bugging me
He's putting in a fun and interesting perspective.
Came for a “Spider-Man kills Marvel” story, ended up with an interesting post-apocalyptic Punisher story. Honestly, kind of badass.
of course. The real title was "The Punisher kills Marvel Universe"
I can't see Tony not having a way out of his suit. He's a genius and he probably has thought about going up against an opponent who could knock out his systems and still have a way to open his suit
yeah this story really sucked imo. really lazy writing
Tony had turned cannibal. The suit shutoff as a contingency
that's the point of what ifs and Else world story just to tell interesting concepts without being restricted
@@oaktownraider119 bruh what
@@TonyAlexander-on4syHe thought he was safe from the infection, but he wasn't. Jarvis/his suit shut down when he went cannibal, and he was no longer smart enough to override it. Then he starved.
Spider Man had already tasted human flesh. Even when he has self control to not eat MJ, he will once he's hungry. Frank just did Peter a favor. The reason why he didn't dodge probably because Peter had known Punisher well enough to know he's gonna kill him anyway.
I think spidey just didnt expect it cuz of the moment. Also Idk if spidey would have cuz its not zombies they're cannibals meaning they like flesh but dont need to eat it hence MJ being alive. But prob is the better choice to end spidey's life as conflicting as it is
@@baked7423 Nah. OP's explanation is probably right.
Spiderman was dumbed down in the story, but out of all the cannibals he was by far the most intelligent in the story. Spiderman knew at the end of the road that MJ and possibly the baby would have turned into food, because theres only so long spiderman can reject the hunger, especially given his new Physique.
Spiderman probably hoped, and knew that Punisher would try to kill him when everything was said and done. After all, why did spiderman hold back on everything until MJ was deep into pregnancy? Peter knew the risk was too great, and for MJ alone he would have tried to held onto the bitter end. But now theres a bun in the oven. So he can't exactly leave it to chance anymore. Peter is some beast now in the story, but even beasts do quite a bit to protect the expecting mothers/newborns.
@@thefallencog There's no hunger tho it's not a zombie virus. They just regressed where like animals no sense of class so they just eat whenever they're hungry and now have a taste for human flesh. As u say, even beasts have some instincts of family and I doubt Spidey is trying to eat her when he said he will let the the survivors go
@@baked7423 Thats what im more getting at though. Cannibals are capable of eating regular food. But if the preference is for human flesh, and afaik there really wasnt any animals roaming around too often at the time of the story, it stands to reason that there is a rapidly dwindling supply of meat on the island.
Peter is an animal due to the Cannibal virus and such, but hes still smart enough to put two and two together. Eventually they'd reach a point where MJ and her child would be the last food source on the island. For MJ he'd hold onto hope until the end, but with a baby he doesn't want that risk.
Starving animals don't really discriminate when it comes to food when they are starving. And its said in the story the virus apparently allows them to be able to survive off a strictly Pica diet comprised of concrete and steel. But theres no indication in the story that, that part of the Viruses "forced evolution" is true.
we see that deadpool is surprisingly smart in spite of being infected and spidey seems to have more complicated concepts like keeping survivors alive without eating them what a promise is and a sense of empathy for his "mate"
odds are that healing factors can somewhat fight off the plague and possibly eventually heal them or at least adapt to the infection(which is why the comic had to rip wolverine to pieces so this wouldnt be obvious i assume)
maybe frank castle in his usual shoot first think never just killed a potential cure for the virus
This title is so misleading. Punisher's the one who killed the Marvel Universe in this story on literally every level. It's the literal title of the story, Punisher being an impulsive idiot ended up being the catalyst for the plague and he's now literally going around killing everyone infected (which I imagine to be most of the world at this point).
The name of the actual comic (which is nowhere in the description) is *Marvel Universe vs The Punisher.* You know, for those who want to read the comic without having it spoiled by the video as they try to figure out which one he's talking about.
Thank you
@@lewismarte3325 Yeah, and now that I think about it, the title is total clickbait. And another channel gets blocked.
Thank you!! It pissed me off it was nowhere to be found in the video or the video description.
Yeah, not sure what's happened in recent months, but he's started removing the titles of the comics in his video titles.. they're shorter and simplified now?
Thank you very much for this!
From the sounds of things, Peter Parker, Spider-Man, barely killed anyone of note. This isn't even a 'Spider-Man Kills the Marvel Universe' story, it's closer to a 'Punisher Kills the Marvel Universe' story. Punisher has the most confirmed named character kills under his belt, he's supposedly the reason the plague happened in the first place, hell he even gets the first and last on panel kills!
How the heck didn’t Spider-Man know he was about to be shot in the head 😂 crazy
Plot convince
Spiderman ignored the warning, he was too busy celebrating to dodge.
@@kappadarwin9476 he can’t ignore spidysence, I think like Noah said above plot convenience, writers had to kill and end it someway. 😂 😂 I just hate that Spider-Man always has to be the one nerfed 😂
Real reason? The writer needed Pete to be incompetent, they needed to find a way to get him killed, my headcanon reason? Peter knew what was about to happen, he knew Frank was going to kill him, but he also knew that he was a monster that had to die, but not before he knew Mary Jane was safe, not before he could hold her one last time, when all was said and done, he willingly let himself get shot.
Plot contrivance.
4:22 Thor getting possessed and still possessing Mjolnir is a plot hole. If he's possessed, he can't be worthy.
Love how Rob finds any opportunity to diss Black Bolt
🎯
I said the same thing. It's like Uncle Roger with Jamie Oliver; strays will be sent one way or another, lol.
Bro you gotta stop saying words like "basically" and "essentially" so much, especially when it doesn't apply to what you're saying lol. Like you can't say it's "basically Deadpool" when it's actually Deadpool himself, just doesn't make sense.
Now I basically can’t stop hearing it basically
In a world where Wolverine can be killed, broken into pieces, and eaten, Frank Castle can absolutely snap off one of Wolverine's claws.
To be fair. Wolverine in the main marvel universe now is a jobber ever since Krakoa heavily nerfed him and laura's durability.
He dies at least one or two times per major storyarc. Sometimes to the wind, often times to things that ordinarily wouldn't bother him. Hell. Just recently beast managed to kill wolverine with a butterknife.
And shoot Spiderman in the head
wolverine wasn't killed his arm was just ripped off. also in this universe they claim the hulk is the strongest he has ever been but feet's don't really back it up
@@thefallencog"sometimes to the wind" made me cackle 😂
Wolverine didn't die. Frank thought he was dead because he disappeared. Hulk ripped off his arm and wore it like a necklace, but Wolverine survived the fight and grew back his arm.
Hey Rob not sure if you will see this but this story is only 1 aspect of the whole. There are 3 stories that tie into this. You have "punisher vs the marvel universe" but you also have "wolverine vs the marvel universe" where it shows wolverines point of view during all these events and "avengers vs the marvel universe" where it follows Hawkeye and his point of view. All 3 have moments that intertwine with each other and even expand on other event's. Personally i feel wolverine vs the marvel universe was the best part but thats just me. From what i have seen from your channel you never covered wolverine or the avengers part of the story just Punisher. If you see this I really hope you cover those other 2 and do a "remaster" showing all 3 stories in chonilogical order. When you read all 3 its an amazing story
I had no idea I have to check those out.
I saw another video labeled wolverine kills the marvel universe a couple days ago, and today found this. I was so confused at first cause the events laid out the exact same, but it makes since now that you explained it how you did thanks man 🤘🏻🤘🏻
@boinkslumpy anytime glad my comment was informative 😃
100% agree with Frank in this story. They had to die and sometimes it takes a monster to kill a monster
I am legend.
oh for sure he did the right thing overall and only he is "Frank" enough to pull all that off. otherwise thered still be a huge threat left in Manhattan. Castle solved that.
Ever read I am legend?
@@jon-nl4zc no I never watched or read it lol
Says the Man that literally started this whole hell
2:58 thats just the view as is lmao
10:40 "Even black bolt, but it really doesn't matter anyway cuz Black Bolt sucks." 😂🤣 only Rob can say that line with a straight face.
The way Tony went out to me is both a cop out but also just unsettling.
The comic itself mentions his suit is meant to be able to keep the infection out. But it...still gets in? Also why wouldn't Tony be in a bunker somewhere working with like Reed while using remote piloting instead of putting himself out there.
It may just be me, but i kinda want to see a apocalypse scenario where Tony is the focus and we see his mindset as he acknowledges (in the words of his MCU self) he's just a man in a tin can but he then adds how he doesn't think he deserved to live while others fell. Although i do understand he would have a high chance of making a cure (look at his knowledge of Extremis) but I feel like a story about Tony making do with remaining resources, getting data to try and make a cure and fighting to survive in this apocalypse would be a fun story, they could even say Tony's exposure to Extremis wasn't reversed in this world and thus his altered biology was immune or something along the lines of the Extremis keeps it from having an effect
in avengers vs the marvel universe tony was working with doom who claimed to have a cure and doom subrogated iron mans suit killing him.
I would actually like to see Spiderman genuinely "eradicate the Marvel Universe" but like intentionally.
I think he could pull it off too.
1) His connections. He is known and respected by most superhero teams
2) His scientific mind. He is one of the fastest and most versatile thinkers on the planet. He can basicly think while he fights
3) His powers. While he isn't the heavy-duty hitter in Marvel he can definitely hold his own.
I think that the only thing that keeps him from doing this is his sence of responsibility.
But everyone has a breaking point. I think maybe a villian finally takes out everyone Spidey cares about. Spidey looses it and decides to take "ultimate" responsibility and take over the world.
Well if we get a Knull / Peter Parker with the power of the king in black to it full potential a power to rival Beyonder his Spider sense amped up to nearly cosmic awareness trough the symbiote multiversal hive mind and the ability of the venom from Venom The end story line to be able to assimilate anyone and replicate there power though what we now know are the codex there would be pretty much no stopping him.
The Eventually said that Peter was tailor made to be the King in black meaning he would be able to handle the power of the title in full. A What if of a Spiderman who stayed with the symbiote to the point of reaching the final stage of a king in black and going nuts with the responsibility would be awesome.
@ChaosSpear019 I think at this point the symbiote is more...Venom's thing.
So that sennario would apply more to Eddie Brock.
Besides Peter usually doesn't rely on things like the symbiote. I think he'd use some kind of tech gizmo
But would his connections help him do that? Amongst normal Earthbound heroes maybe he could do it though there's definitely some that would require writers conveniently sabotaging them.
@Primary Bith Punisher and Deadpool have managed to take over the Marvel universe. Despite being overpowered they use what they know of the heroes to over power them.
I think Spidey could manage that even better given he's even more clever then them
If Spiderman did kill the marvel universe, I would imagine he might get some help maybe, might see dead pool or some villains fill the ranks. Maybe it will be a superior Spiderman story, with Spiderman being taken over by venom or Doc ock, I think its plausible
Kingpin's power comes from his criminal empire and his social and political influence. In a post-apocalyptic setting he wouldn't have those and he would just be a big guy who's well trained in hand-to-hand combat. If the tribes follow the strongest leader, any of the superhumans could have killed him and taken his place.
@You're under 19 don't argue still not bullet-proof....and plenty of super-powerered heroes that could still kill him without having to get into melee range. Also plenty that could kill him in melee range (Hulk or any number of super-powered ones)
@You're under 19 don't argue bro Spider-Man is literally leagues ahead of Kingpin he has to hold back to not kill him. There’s a comic where Spider-Man gets serious and basically beats him half to death no difficult.
Kingpin is also very intelligent, and that clearly transfers with the infection. It’s likely that he still has his persuasive and manipulative side and that that has worked in his favor
Wolverine is still around, just missing a arm that he later is shown he had regrown. Hes out by Iron Fists place
this story has a pt.2?
@@IsThatNas wolverine kills yhe marvel universe
@@truexchaosx6099 thanks
@@truexchaosx6099 Nope its Wolverine vs the Marvel Universe
So , Spiderman can turn a whole universe into cabalistic monsters , outsmart and outfight the biggest threats the marvel universe has to offer , yet he can't dodge a bullet , guess the spidey sense left the chat that day
Writers try not to undermine Spider-man challenge (impossible difficulty)
Honestly, I'm on board with the idea he let Frank kill him in that state, given how he was still a threat to everything.
It was Punisher to unleash the virus, Spidey was patient zero.
Plot twist Dopinder turns out to be the Indian Spiderman.
HA ! I understand that reference 😂
And all his hero philosophy is learned from dp's cab rides.
Susan Storm killing Franklin is literally just "we need him gone to have a story." There was no logical reason to kill him. She could have simply asked him "hey, can you wave your hand and revert all that happened and make the plague go away?" And it would have happened, especially with his sister's genius to help guide him.
They definitely could have done a little bit more to explain it at least, like saying Susan got infected and killed him for food at least.
The point of most of that is that nobody really knows, it isn’t the write explaining things it’s Frank. It also works to allow for it to be explained later like with Wolverine and Iron Man
Okay, I got to bring this up.
How come **no** one says what the comic is originally from? Or say what the name of the comic?
The plot hole here was that spiderman's spidersense should have alerted him. Especially since it was right in front of him.
Not a plot hole, Peter knew. Think about the why of everything, why did Peter string along Frank? Why did he go to him when MJ was captured and not go himself? It’s pretty self explanatory if you think about it
I think they have to rename it:
"Punisher vs the Marvel Universe" to
"Punisher vs a Marvel city.
Since it all takes place in a city.
It's called marvel universe vs punisher
@@kubamcmillan3078 👍
@@kubamcmillan3078 There was a different comic in 95 called, Punisher Kills the Marvel Universe. But it kinda sucked because it didn't show how he killed the heavy hitters.
Always have a love hate relationship with how these "bad ending universes: always need to find a way to take out Wolverine that 616 Logan just wouldn't be the victim of. Like his healing just kinda stopping in the Brood version of Marvel Zombies, or his durability getting all wonky so that Hulk can tear him limb from limb (something which I'm almost certain 616 Hulk has admitted he full on *can't* do) and Punisher of all people can break adamantium. Yeah there are characters you need to get rid of to let these one off alternate universe stories actually occur, but it always feels really cheap when you see *how* they're removed from the story.
Granted, it is nice they acknowledge that he can regrow limbs if need be.
Funny part is wolverine is still alive in this universe.
@@shortybo2164 I did learn after this that there's several runs in this universe, so I did see that he made it out alive. But I feel like my point still stands, since he did still get his arm torn off and his claw snapped. But I am glad they didn't go all the way and discard him to make the story happen.
@@XFG_Official ya it does
Oh come on! This doesn't count as a kills the marvel universe story! You got me all excited that they actually made one!
Damn well that ending is anticlimactic. Every single time Spider-Man dies in a comic like this, he always dies by a gunshot that he could have easily dodged if it wasn't for writers forgetting he has Spider-Sense.
Iron man suffered a cruel fate, this story was insane! Man its hard to say what hasn't already been said about Frank's character, hes always been interesting. Spider-man as the villain was fun, seems like the entire incident was Frank's fault in the beginning though.
Ah yes, Spiderman sits atop the throne of the apocalypse, defeating the most overpowered beings on the planet due to his overwhelming strength and spider sense…
Gun 🤡
They literally spidey sense off just so the punisher could actually kill Spider-Man. There’s 0 way Spider-Man trusted Punisher enough for it not to work and people got full sentences out before Punisher even shot. Crazy
You people are really not good at thinking about things in context are you. Why would Peter not react to punisher blowing his brains out, why was he stringing Frank along before MJ was even captured, why did he even want Frank to help when she was. He knew Frank, he knew what Franks end goal was, so, why didn’t he react?
Can Disney please make this the final phase of the Marvel Cinematic Universe!
Castle didn’t need to “break” Wolverine’s claw off. He could have disarticulated the claw out.
He did break it, he leveraged the tank to rip it out
"It's a comic book, who cares, go with it." Oh boy that quote needs to be preached.
Wolverines side of this story is definitely my favorite of the three.
Thats the one i had, i was confused when i seen this video. I didn’t know their are more parts to this story
What is this story called??
@@chrisgialamas6293 it’s called “Marvel Universe Vs. Wolverine”
This was "Punisher Kills the Marvel Universe", right? I had this comic a while back.
Also, I'm not totally sure Thor went back and infected Asgard. He didn't eat Ares and Hercules when he killed them, he just left. I assumed he killed the two of them because they were infected, then just left because saving the world was a lost cause at that point. I also wouldn't say it was *entirely* Frank's fault for what happened. If he hadn't stopped them, they'd have just released all this stuff themselves anyway. Ultimately, what should have happened was the normal superheroes should have known about what was being transported before the Punisher stopped it. It's partly his negligence at shooting the briefcase, and partly the rest of the heroes for letting something so dangerous get smuggled in without any of them knowing or doing anything about it. Last, I imagine what happened with Iron Man is that, after he became infected and changed inside his suit, he was either no longer in possession of the necessary intelligence to make the suit work, or alternatively the internal AI in the suit saw what happened and locked it up completely to make sure he couldn't hurt anybody.
Saving the world wasn't a lost cause at that point. He left because the plot demanded there couldn't be someone that powerful and immune.
Thor could have contacted the survivors working on a cure.
Frank is a pretty good marksman....he could've killed the smugglers without destroying the briefcase. His fault plain and simple. If it had been a briefcase nuke or some other virulent real life infectious agent then he still would be the one at fault for risking the collateral damage.
Its always interesting how they have to make some heroes weaker to kill them off in these kind of stories. Again just breaking wolverine apart or an arrow to the brain kills the hulk or again spider man could not dodge the bullet.
@TEXme-ko2io no thanks
A couple possibilities to why the punisher was able to kill spiderman even with the spider sense
1.) since punisher saved MJ, Peter might’ve seen him not as a threat anymore and so his spider sense didn’t go off (keep in mind this version of peter is “simplified”)
2.) because the punisher is only set on infected and survivors/good and bad, the punisher was set on killing him from the start. This might’ve set off peters spider sense the entire time they were together. This means Peter would’ve had to ignore the constant sense of danger. With that being said, since he was ignoring his sense, the gun might’ve not made it go off.
Peters spider-sense is capable of sensing all dangers and unconsciously reacting to dangers (think when doctor strange tried to take that thing from him in the movies and his spider-sense automatically made him move even though Peter was knocked out of his body). I’m not sure how exactly his spider sense works but I’m assuming it’s like a meter. It goes up depending on the level of danger a threat poses and spikes when something like a gun is shot, which is why he automatically reacts. The punisher could’ve left his sense spiked the whole time meaning when the gun was pulled there was no change in threat level.
Just some thoughts
In defense of him breaking off the claw, adamantium is very hard, but hard metals are brittle. With the right leverage, it's possible that he could snap one.
Adamantium is more than just a hard metal....it's known in the comics for being nearly indestructible. Given the amount of punishment that Wolverine has endured, he would've had broken bones from many fights with super-powered beings and cosmic entities way stronger than the leverage of a modern army vehicle and the muscle power of a normal human.
It's just poor writing. If they really wanted to go for it they simply could have realized that tendons, ligaments, and sinew are simply organic and not adamantium. No need for a contrived reason he was able to break a piece of adamantium.
One thing I find confusing is how Deadpool was effected? I'm unsure which version of his powers this comic uses but from one I believe that his body always reverts back to the state that it was in when he first got his powers.
Please stop saying "BASICALLY". Learn other words for gods sake.
This is beyond wild. 😮 Wow I am shocked this comic book story is a lot more darker than the death of Superman.
I don’t understand how The Punisher was able to pull a gun out and shoot Spider-man when he survived against other foes due to his spider sense
take a shot anytime he says "basically" "essentially" or "pretty much"
There are actually 2 more stories to this
One following Wolverine's perspective
And the perspective of the heroes who tried to fight the infection head on in NY as a last stand
I recommend covering the Wolverine perspective one because it's the most interesting and shows what happened in the battle of brooklyn
Edit: It also shows (if I remember correctly) that the claw actually broke off in a different way in his perspective, not the bullshit that was "frank used a tank"
Dude, for the love of god, work on your usage of "basically".
Because it's basically, literally, essentially unbearable
20:58 Even if the Spider-Sense wasn’t around, there was enough time for Spider-Man to realize Frank is gonna pull out a gun
He knew man, think about why Peter did the things he did in the story, and why was MJ being pregnant relevant, you’ll get there
This guys gotta learn adverbs other than “kind of a” “basically” “essentially” and “literally”
Your hate for blackbolt is amusing.
Only the real OG's know that rob remade this story from like 6-8 years ago.
Wolverines claws are attached to muscles and ligaments that slide in and out of his forearms and nestle between the radius and ulna. They are separate bones from the ones in his arm and to remove them just rip the soft tissue no breaking of bones needed
misleading title, I thought Spideys killing spree would be the center of attention
Rob, PLEASE do the other 2 stories. In this series, Avengers and Wolverine vs. the Marvel Universe. It would make me so happy
Name of the series????
I 100% in love with this much effort they always made me and my family happy so
I decided to put it on the TV and my whole family was laughing and enjoying it
Wouldn’t his spider sense have prevented that outcome?
Woukd be funny if he made this a live action movie and the portion of view appears.
That virus wish it was anywhere as dangrous as this virus in the comic, it isn't even close to 0,1% as dangerous.
There r 2 other comic lines set in his universe, wonder if will do those 2 as well.
Spider-Man time again.
Punisher here probably got the thickest plot armor in existence. Like dude broke wolverines claw and shot Spiderman (bypassing spidey sense) both are almost imposible.
Just the fact of having Multiple Man in these mass infection scenario stories is reason enough to know all hope is lost.
The co.ic: yeah, so Spider-Man's spider-sense makes him essentially invulnerable just be dodging attacks
Punisher: I got one bullet
Spider man mouth through his mask will never not tickle me lmaoo
“Noone is stupid enough to attack the hulk” while the hulks wearing wolverines hand
One of my favorite What-Ifs of all time, Rob. Can’t wait to see it all covered!
The patient zero thing doesn’t make much sense considering punisher dropped the virus in the New York water system 5:40 . You would think plenty of people got infected by the water, not by Spider-Man necessarily. It was probably just the first case of it they covered on the news cause it’s so out of character for him.
So you mean to tell me, the reason spider man survived was cause of how broken his spider sense is, and by the end, he dies from a gun, while doing nothing? Guess spider sense didn't kick in....gun shots are reality warping level!
My one question is:
*What the freak happened to Spidey?*
while this story is depressing like others, i do like how this story isnt ur typical zombie story. It's cannibals and although primitive, can still reason. Usually I wouldnt believe Someone saying we will leave you alone which I like frank calls out on, but in this story they dont technically have to eat people or are forced to, It's just a want rather than a need. MJ is proof of that as well as the survivors.
Also like how this story somewhat ends on a bittersweet note. There are survivors and with main tribes of the cannibals being taken out, frank stays behind to clean up the rest acknowledging he is a monster as well. I will say I do feel a bit sad for Spidey as it actually seemed like he was gonna keep his end of the deal but also yea spidey did kill people and heralded the beginning of this plague so I understand why frank did it. Sometimes to kill a monster u have to become one. Im guessing he decided to do that when MJ called him a good person because while he is doing good things like helping people, deep down he knew that it was for selfish reasons and is just killing people at the end of the day
Frank heralded the beginning of the plague. He set these events in motion; Spider-Man was actually just among the first victims.
How was spiderman able to remain so sane?
8:15 No, i dont think i will.
20:56 i think spider man didn't dodge there bc he knew he would have eaten mary jane someday so he decided to let punisher kill him otherwise he could easily just dodge that shot
Beyond Omega Level: Icon (DC Milestone Comics)
Thank you so much for this. I love good zombie-esque stories and, if I hadn't been warned by your video about how bad this one is, I might have bought it!
This was lousy. Not the video, which was a good summary . . . aside from the narrator liking the dreck of this story.
Where do I start?!
Please, a Spiderman with no moral qualms holding him back would not need the help of the punisher to take down Kingpin. As bad as "One More Day" was, the one good bit was finally making that obvious.
Um . . . spider sense and reflexes, anybody? How the heck would Punisher be able to pull a gun. (Also: Super smarts! If _I_ know that castle is going to try to kill spidey after getting the uninfected, you know spiderman would have realized this and been prepared!) At least with cap, I can handwave that cap realized he was infected and asked Castle to kill him (The pose seems to support that)
The video's narrator already pointed out the stupidity of breaking Wolverine's claws, even if the claws just have secondary adamantium. Additionally an arrow will not be fast enough to avoid being knocked aside by hulk -- Hawkeye got him _during_ a change; not _after_.
Bleah!
I’m not gonna lie I think zombie Spider-Man is the scariest thing in marvel zombies
Yeah Zombie Spiderman kept his higher brain functions unlike Cannibal Spiderman. So Zombie spiderman knew what he was doing was wrong but couldn't help himself.
4:33 - “We can largely assume that Thor went back to Asgard and turned everyone.”
If he did turn, why didn’t he eat Ares and Hercules? From Punisher’s anecdote, it sounds like Thor killed a turned Ares and Hercules, then left out of remorse for killing what he would consider brothers.
Never heard of this story until I found the entire run in a Punisher section of discount comics. I love the Punisher and love this iteration of Marvel Zombies. Thanks for giving it some love
What's the name of it
Idky but whenever these BIG characters become more primitive or warlords (Hulk, King Thanos, The Thing) & they’re surrounded by scantily clothed women, I’m kinda jealous & am curious how it works….😅👀
That's a perfect world for The Punisher.
Using AI for the thumbnail is pretty gross, not gonna lie.
This is honestly way more interesting than what I expected I originally thought it was spider man get a mad about something and decided to show ppl he is one of the most formidable characters in Marvel
So Spiderman's spider sense let's him beat practically all the other heroes and villains, but somehow, Frank with no super human abilities at all is able to surprise Spiderman by shooting him in the head. I call BS on that. As fast and as strong as spider man is WITH the spider sense, he would have destroyed Frank before Frank even raised the gun.
The video's length is 21:49? Coincidence?
Dumb. I like Punisher but him being able to kill Hulk and Spiderman and so many others just by shooting them. Dumb dumb dumb.
Rob.. It wasn’t Covid before Covid 🙄 - it’s like every other end of world/zombie/virus led comic, tv show, etc.
It’s exactly how covid started. People traveling while infected, covers more ground. No way to stop it because it’s too late.
So spidey sense was plot armor until the last few pages. 😮 guy who wrote this really liked the punisher.
Your coverage is the absolute best, Rob! Thanks for saving me money by worthless comic books! 😂
Hmm I think you can tell the story a bit better. So many filler words "like", "basically". Also so many "ands". And not enough periods. Other than that, good stuff