Harry is 100 percent correct. This version of Peter has to much to lose. Two kids and a wife left in a universe ruled by the Maker. Just think of what horrors he could do to them. And if you have any doubts read Doom. No half measures. Not when its more than you you have to worry about.
I agree. While I get where Peters coming from I think that Harry is right, if it comes to it, if there is no other choice, you have to kill them This guy, was LITERALLY going to kill you Peter and you're upset because I damn near killed him trying to save you? Dude.
@@goldenrose223 fam rewatch that scene again but this time actually listen to what rob said and also read the panels in the comic cuz good lord yall suck
@@shadowx8145 Are you getting at the fact peter's spider sense didn't go off so he wasn't actually in danger? To be fair to Harry, he had no way of knowing that (even without having his father pretty much be in his ear leading him down the dark path) so it isn't entirely unreasonable for someone to think Harry, given the information he had at the time, made the best decision he could? Though it's entirely possible it turns out the sword or something else caused peter's spidy sense to not work properly (not out of the realm of possibility) which would mean Harry still made a pretty reasonable choice the majority of other people, including other heroes would make. If you disagree I'd love to hear an explanation of your perspective if you're comfortable sharing that.
with all the multi-verse shenanigans, i wish they'd turn villains good more often (or heroes bad). it doesnt need to happen all the time, but its so cool to reimagine some of the classics that way.
Rob, can you please make a full bio Video on the maker, from beginning to end up to where we are, because seems Maker has been established as a prime Marvel villain.
I believe either he or Comicstorian has already made a bio video in where he narrates the whole story until before the beginning of the new ultimate Spiderman.
@@bryanperezbustos6049if so, I'd love a link cuz I am so engulfed. I loved the original Ultimate universe prior to Miles Morales debut. And learning that The Maker effectively made this variant of himself this new Ultimate universe's Doom is WILD to me.
There’s a maker video that he’s done already. But if you like to read comics get the marvel unlimited app and type in the maker in the search and go under reading guide, it will pull up every issue that the maker is featured in.
Peter lecturing Harry that they shouldn’t kill because they’re supposed to be heroes and need to be better is exactly why he was on the Maker’s list while Harry wasn’t. No matter how much good Harry tries to do with the mantle, it’s the same in every universe. Spider-Man will always be a hero while the Green Goblin will always be a villain.
@@NotNox_244 The maker made a priority list of super powered individuals (superheros , supervillians ectra) that could oppose his machinations for the new ultimate universe and so the maker went about using time travel to ether prevent these super heros from ever getting their powers or manipulating their lives to be something more non threatenting to the maker. A example of this was the maker preventing the radioactive spider from biting peter. Spiderman was mentioned to be near the top of the priority list.
@@arthurdotson9579 I know the who felicia hardy and her father Walter hardy are. Black cat and the cat. I made the comparison because his suit resembles that of daredevil and he referred to himself as the velvet blade. I know the character is based on the actual black cat with a twist. I thought is was an interesting line from the character while being dressed the way he was.
I think they should use the Ultimates universe as a short run every decade or so to explore new ideas and then bleed them into the main 616 when they see what works.
13:00 I'd say you nailed it here, when talking about rehashing characters like The Maker. Just a couple sentence bullet point- not annoying for those familiar, informative enough to keep newbies up to speed and locked into your flow
For the seventh issue, I like that Harry introduced Peter to Otto Octavius, who told them what their suits are made of and that their suits were Stark tech, before they decided to have a fight to test themselves and their power set. Also, Peter having average intelligence, which is interesting. I also like that Gwen and MJ have a chat about buying a building. I hope we get to see MJ tell Gwen that Peter told her about his Spider-Man identity in the next issue or so, so that they can talk and share secrets with each other and have their husbands’ back no matter what. I even like that Uncle Ben and J. Jonah Jameson recruited Robbie Robertson to join their newspaper team before Robbie told them that he is going to be their belly of the beast to gain intel since they’re best friends who got each other’s back no matter what. Overall, this is a great comic! For the eighth issue, I like that after what happened in the last issue, we get to see Peter, Otto, and Harry interact with Tony, who told them to prepare to fight the Maker (who will make his return in 2025) before we get to see Peter interact with the suit and treat it as a friend and family member, the Parkers and J. Jonah Jameson go to an arcade to celebrate May’s birthday, Jonah telling Richard about his childhood before he gave a book that we written to him, and Kingpin assembling the Sinister Six. Overall, this comic is great! For the ninth issue, I like that Ben and J. Jonah invited MJ to show her what they’ve done with their Paper and asked her what they need to do in order to improve it. I also like that Otto created an Iron Spider suit (which looks cool and anime like) for Peter before Peter got a new spandex suit (which looks cool). I even like that Peter and Harry were able to work together to fight crime and encounter the Black Cat before they have and reconciled their personal conflicts and Peter asked Harry if he can join him and his family for Christmas. Overall, this comic is great!
@@joeyquintero9681 I think you're right. I forgot he could manipulate the suit color choices and other stuff. I just don't remember the suit coming out of the orb or how he got the black one.
Why is the makers head so long or is it just the helmet, Ramdom thought Edit: Imagine when we get deeper into the story of Peter and Harry vs the sinister 6, we see peter vs kraven, Peter seemingly 'dies' and is buried in a grave, not any grave anut Mays grave ( Kraven possibly could have stalked Peter and his family and gained information on him or something like that ) Peter goes missing for a few weeks and crawls out of the tomb wearing the pico tech suit but in his iconic black suit ( Pico tech could have found out he was missing bc the paper would have reported not seeing Spider-Man so long and Mj and the kids voicing there concerns. ) Peter is now back in black. Just a random thought Heavily inspired by Kravens last hunt, but it's so cool to think about
I want you to go through everything about The Maker from the start to the end, because while I already know most if not all, it’s super convoluted and honestly he’s such a fun villain he needs an in depth history video
Man it would be dope if you covered the original Ultimate Fantastic Four up to Reed becoming The Maker and just the aftermath of everything. Also... What the hell happened to The Makers Ultimate Venom symbiote?
I agree. A one stop shop for The Maker would be a good reference for people jumping in. The more videos new people have to jump around on? Just like comics the less likely they are to do it. It would be a good thing to just reference the one video.
Thank you Rob. Great video. This is some peak Hickman right here. And Chechetto is killing it with the art. Go ahead and do a Maker video. That would be cool. Take care and peace.
I'm going to try and get every one of these issues when I get the chance. This new ultimate Spider-Man run has not let me down and I really like where it's going and what it's setting up
Captain America represents righteous Justice. The fantastic four represents loyal family . The flagship of Marvel Spider-Man, is the heart & will. Oh yea, I’ll take a Maker video.
They make spider man out to be a 😈 demon? That’s messed up. Spidey that little guy lost his aunt and uncle.Homeless and still fighting the SINiSTER ^6^
A video about The Maker would be amazing! I started reading & collecting again because of this spider run and trying to make sense of the maker gets crazy lol
I really appreciate how this comic shows the importance of Spiderman, not from a actual physical perspective, but from conceptual meaning of what a hero means... Not sure if I'm explaining myself correctly
As always, I appreciate your coverage & storytelling on Comics 💯, and with this rendition of Marvel’s new Ultimate Universe (Ultimate Invasion), I’m digging the plot points that Hickman is planting throughout the story. Also I would love to see you put out a new video covering The Maker- he’s such an interesting character! 👍🏾
I like how in that last act of the issue Harry’s suit is the Hobgoblin’s color scheme. It might be that it’ll be the hobgoblin but Harry will get a suit that turns into green goblin or venom.
Besides Pete's original Spidey suit, his other most iconic look is the Symbiote costume or black and white one. Not the Iron Spider. Sure, it looks cool, but ask most anyone, and they say the symbiote costume after the original
I think it’s beneficial to have a database of characters and their origins and impactful moments for us. So yeah I’d say a video about The Maker would be dope
Harry is 100 percent correct. This version of Peter has to much to lose. Two kids and a wife left in a universe ruled by the Maker. Just think of what horrors he could do to them. And if you have any doubts read Doom. No half measures. Not when its more than you you have to worry about.
I agree he has a family now, so Pete needs to move differently
I agree. While I get where Peters coming from I think that Harry is right, if it comes to it, if there is no other choice, you have to kill them
This guy, was LITERALLY going to kill you Peter and you're upset because I damn near killed him trying to save you? Dude.
How tf do u and the people under your comment have such bad media literacy?
@@goldenrose223 fam rewatch that scene again but this time actually listen to what rob said and also read the panels in the comic cuz good lord yall suck
@@shadowx8145
Are you getting at the fact peter's spider sense didn't go off so he wasn't actually in danger? To be fair to Harry, he had no way of knowing that (even without having his father pretty much be in his ear leading him down the dark path) so it isn't entirely unreasonable for someone to think Harry, given the information he had at the time, made the best decision he could?
Though it's entirely possible it turns out the sword or something else caused peter's spidy sense to not work properly (not out of the realm of possibility) which would mean Harry still made a pretty reasonable choice the majority of other people, including other heroes would make. If you disagree I'd love to hear an explanation of your perspective if you're comfortable sharing that.
Im picturing the voice of disembodied Norman being Willem Dafoe. "AVENGE MEEEE!" lol
Harry: "NAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGHHHHHH!!!!!"
lol 😂😂😂
" Back to formula?!'
@@docdirtymrclean3610 No... you can't do this... YAKNOWHOWMUCHI'VESACRIFICED???!?!!!?!!
😂LOL YESS😂🤣
No way i saw harry say “let him cook” on one of the panels lmfao
It's based in modern times, so it makes sense that they would use modern vocabulary
@@soulance8342No.
I love it!
@@publicoutlaw1731 wym no? Hasn’t that always been the case with the ultimate universe- it’s more based on real life, yeah?….
I went to the comments to see if anyone else noticed, first comment xd
Otto Octavius assisting Spider-Man is a great new development I like that. The possibilities are quite staggering.
with all the multi-verse shenanigans, i wish they'd turn villains good more often (or heroes bad). it doesnt need to happen all the time, but its so cool to reimagine some of the classics that way.
The results may be superior
Otto is going to keep and modify that iron spider suit for himself. You heard it here first.
@@TheVang86superior Spider man !!!
@@kyrridas1573 yea, is not like they need to make every villan good or every hero bad, like there are so many characters just choose at random lol
32:44 Harry is definitely me if I ever was a hero. I’m not giving these villains second chances lol
That's that Norman strategy
just like oliver from invincible
He said if theyre life was on the line not off rip
Someone is stretching thin their Christmas invitation hahaha.
Rob, can you please make a full bio Video on the maker, from beginning to end up to where we are, because seems Maker has been established as a prime Marvel villain.
I believe either he or Comicstorian has already made a bio video in where he narrates the whole story until before the beginning of the new ultimate Spiderman.
@@bryanperezbustos6049if so, I'd love a link cuz I am so engulfed. I loved the original Ultimate universe prior to Miles Morales debut. And learning that The Maker effectively made this variant of himself this new Ultimate universe's Doom is WILD to me.
@@bryanperezbustos6049 plz dude give a link to the video or just the video id to past (im talking aout this thing watch?v=T9XVYPzPxhw)
There’s a maker video that he’s done already. But if you like to read comics get the marvel unlimited app and type in the maker in the search and go under reading guide, it will pull up every issue that the maker is featured in.
Look up "marvel's biggest hater"
Peter lecturing Harry that they shouldn’t kill because they’re supposed to be heroes and need to be better is exactly why he was on the Maker’s list while Harry wasn’t. No matter how much good Harry tries to do with the mantle, it’s the same in every universe. Spider-Man will always be a hero while the Green Goblin will always be a villain.
Or at best an anti-hero for Green Goblin
The makers list?
@@NotNox_244 The maker made a priority list of super powered individuals (superheros , supervillians ectra) that could oppose his machinations for the new ultimate universe and so the maker went about using time travel to ether prevent these super heros from ever getting their powers or manipulating their lives to be something more non threatenting to the maker.
A example of this was the maker preventing the radioactive spider from biting peter.
Spiderman was mentioned to be near the top of the priority list.
The Velvet Blade goes SO fucking hard. Unironically I want Felicia Hardy to NOT pick up the mantle of Black Cat and become the Velvet Blade
Literally just started looking for a new vid
You know the crab likes money.
You know the sponge likes FUN.
You know the star keeps shining
You know the squid likes guns.
I LOOOOOOVE MONEY I LOOOOOOOVE QUARTERS
What we all got in common we this shit's said and done..
He's the Velvet Blade in the sheets....and the Black Cat in the streets!
An amazing play on daredevil. This story is great
@@calilljones9035 That's not Daredevil. Look up the history of the Spider-Man character Black Cat, and her father.
@@arthurdotson9579 I know the who felicia hardy and her father Walter hardy are. Black cat and the cat. I made the comparison because his suit resembles that of daredevil and he referred to himself as the velvet blade. I know the character is based on the actual black cat with a twist. I thought is was an interesting line from the character while being dressed the way he was.
2:37 had to double take to see if I was high or sum but harry really just said”let him cook” like what we doing rn marvel 😂🔥
13:04 Yes please!!!!
I agree I would like to see the history of the maker
@@aaronmauer7225 video of The Maker is uploaded if you haven't seen it yet!
I think they should use the Ultimates universe as a short run every decade or so to explore new ideas and then bleed them into the main 616 when they see what works.
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For some reason I thought you had done a video on the Maker way back during Secret Wars 2015. But since you haven't yes please cover the Maker.
Every time I see a new video, I'm excited!
Tell me about it 😂🎉
Calm down take it easy it'll be okay
Go away bot
Sure sure AIChatbot.
Ok onlybots
29:00 Darkwing Duck with that kind of introduction but yeah, The Velvet Blade is smooth.
The way he alters his height I wouldn’t mind Mysterio just being some kind of tech savy kid
13:00 I'd say you nailed it here, when talking about rehashing characters like The Maker. Just a couple sentence bullet point- not annoying for those familiar, informative enough to keep newbies up to speed and locked into your flow
Love that last bit of conversation between them at the end. 😂😂😂
This story proves I am not crazy wanting Hickman to write Spider man
2:50 let him cook 🗣🗣
2:40
For the seventh issue, I like that Harry introduced Peter to Otto Octavius, who told them what their suits are made of and that their suits were Stark tech, before they decided to have a fight to test themselves and their power set. Also, Peter having average intelligence, which is interesting. I also like that Gwen and MJ have a chat about buying a building. I hope we get to see MJ tell Gwen that Peter told her about his Spider-Man identity in the next issue or so, so that they can talk and share secrets with each other and have their husbands’ back no matter what. I even like that Uncle Ben and J. Jonah Jameson recruited Robbie Robertson to join their newspaper team before Robbie told them that he is going to be their belly of the beast to gain intel since they’re best friends who got each other’s back no matter what. Overall, this is a great comic!
For the eighth issue, I like that after what happened in the last issue, we get to see Peter, Otto, and Harry interact with Tony, who told them to prepare to fight the Maker (who will make his return in 2025) before we get to see Peter interact with the suit and treat it as a friend and family member, the Parkers and J. Jonah Jameson go to an arcade to celebrate May’s birthday, Jonah telling Richard about his childhood before he gave a book that we written to him, and Kingpin assembling the Sinister Six. Overall, this comic is great!
For the ninth issue, I like that Ben and J. Jonah invited MJ to show her what they’ve done with their Paper and asked her what they need to do in order to improve it. I also like that Otto created an Iron Spider suit (which looks cool and anime like) for Peter before Peter got a new spandex suit (which looks cool). I even like that Peter and Harry were able to work together to fight crime and encounter the Black Cat before they have and reconciled their personal conflicts and Peter asked Harry if he can join him and his family for Christmas. Overall, this comic is great!
How did Peter make his web shooters then?
@@jspur22I think the pico suit creates the webbing like how the symbiote does it
@@joeyquintero9681 but didn't he have it before then?
@@jspur22 I don't think Peter had mechanical web shooters until now
@@joeyquintero9681 I think you're right. I forgot he could manipulate the suit color choices and other stuff. I just don't remember the suit coming out of the orb or how he got the black one.
Do The Maker video - please sir. Please
24:00 outside from the traditional red and blue suit.. and the *black* suit, which is a funny thing to miss given what's happening in this run 😝
Why is the makers head so long or is it just the helmet,
Ramdom thought
Edit: Imagine when we get deeper into the story of Peter and Harry vs the sinister 6, we see peter vs kraven, Peter seemingly 'dies' and is buried in a grave, not any grave anut Mays grave ( Kraven possibly could have stalked Peter and his family and gained information on him or something like that ) Peter goes missing for a few weeks and crawls out of the tomb wearing the pico tech suit but in his iconic black suit ( Pico tech could have found out he was missing bc the paper would have reported not seeing Spider-Man so long and Mj and the kids voicing there concerns. ) Peter is now back in black.
Just a random thought
Heavily inspired by Kravens last hunt, but it's so cool to think about
He grew his brain
He made his brain bigger
My theory, through the conversations that Peter has with "himself" when wearing the Picotech, is that it's going to be a version of the Symbiote.
He stretched his brain
I want you to go through everything about The Maker from the start to the end, because while I already know most if not all, it’s super convoluted and honestly he’s such a fun villain he needs an in depth history video
i would like a video of the Maker for sure.
13:08 nah bud you got beat to it lmao
frfr
Make the maker video Rob pls pls pls
Why do you need him to when you can read the comic
They're asking because they don't want to read all his comics 🤯@@CertifiedHater98
Right on time. Seriously 💯
23:00- That’s BART HAMILTON, Rob!
Anyone else read black cats speech bubbles with a suave Spanish accent? Just me?
Man it would be dope if you covered the original Ultimate Fantastic Four up to Reed becoming The Maker and just the aftermath of everything.
Also... What the hell happened to The Makers Ultimate Venom symbiote?
I think you should redo "Renew your Vows" to show how formidable Peter and his spiders sense is when he's focused @Comics Explained
I'd like to see a video on The Maker, sure.
Yeh but I think there is one already
@@turtleanton6539 I think there was before this comment, but more information is always nice.
It doesn’t seem like Iron Man to give a gift that needs optimizing and without automatic integration, but content is king
13:09 DUDE plz do your signature dissection of that monster Maker.
love you rob! you’ve been busting your ass and we all appreciate your grind. i know you’re like me and you miss benny every single day.
23:20 - Green Gobbs looks like the front of that killer semi-truck from that Stephen King movie!
We're going MGS4 with it.
Alien symbiote?
Nanomachines.
Ghost of Norman Osborne? Nanomachines.
Nanomachines, son!
Noooo.
Banana machines
Peter becomes a brazilian samurai
happy new year Rob and yes to the maker series
Make the maker
"just let him cook." is something i never expected to hear from Harry Osborn lmao. Thats gold
You've got me back on comics again used to be a big Marvel movie fan but good tired of the shows.
You're content is awesome!!
Very cool video and story😊😊
great video
I most certainly agree with Rob's assertion of "The Velvet Blade." It made me chuckle thanks Rob 👍 you rock
I love the more long form content you’ve been giving. These 30 minute vids have been BANGERS🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
You should definitely do a thorough video about the Maker. Love your vids! You’re the man!!!
I'm loving this run man, and the art is 🔥
I agree. A one stop shop for The Maker would be a good reference for people jumping in. The more videos new people have to jump around on? Just like comics the less likely they are to do it. It would be a good thing to just reference the one video.
I’m amazed at the quality of this book, especially compared to the past several years of ASM
Indeed😮
Making my time off better thank you for the hard work can't wait for the next one
Thank you Rob. Great video. This is some peak Hickman right here. And Chechetto is killing it with the art. Go ahead and do a Maker video. That would be cool. Take care and peace.
Yes do a video on the maker
I'm going to try and get every one of these issues when I get the chance. This new ultimate Spider-Man run has not let me down and I really like where it's going and what it's setting up
Yes make a MAKER history. Please do it now.
24:34
^ Let’s go❕👏🏼
Captain America represents
righteous Justice.
The fantastic four represents
loyal family .
The flagship of Marvel Spider-Man,
is the heart & will. Oh yea, I’ll take a Maker video.
They make spider man out to be a 😈 demon? That’s messed up. Spidey that little guy lost his aunt and uncle.Homeless and still fighting the SINiSTER ^6^
Oh this is good. This is reallly good
2:40 "just let him cook"
Please make the Maker video !
Yes to the history of the maker. I know his history but you’re an awesome content creator we wanna see itttttt
A video about The Maker would be amazing!
I started reading & collecting again because of this spider run and trying to make sense of the maker gets crazy lol
I really appreciate how this comic shows the importance of Spiderman, not from a actual physical perspective, but from conceptual meaning of what a hero means... Not sure if I'm explaining myself correctly
I always hear Roscoe Lee Brown's voice when I read King Pin. He voiced him in the old 90s Spider Man cartoon I watched as a kid.
a full video on The Maker would be great for use both now and when this run on Ultimates is over. i very much would like one :3
As always, I appreciate your coverage & storytelling on Comics 💯, and with this rendition of Marvel’s new Ultimate Universe (Ultimate Invasion), I’m digging the plot points that Hickman is planting throughout the story. Also I would love to see you put out a new video covering The Maker- he’s such an interesting character! 👍🏾
Yes rob yes!. I would love a maker breakdown/buildup
Great video great commentary
Yes i would love more Maker content Rob
Man this was fire I enjoyed it
I like how in that last act of the issue Harry’s suit is the Hobgoblin’s color scheme.
It might be that it’ll be the hobgoblin but Harry will get a suit that turns into green goblin or venom.
Hey rob . Im blind and i cant thank you enough 4 your narrations
I like this new Spider-man comics, & can't wait to see more on your channel :)
So excited when I see new videos!🎉
Yes please make a video on the Maker!
What a great video, what a great story
I would love a maker video. It's been a long time since I had a real refresher on him.
The Velvet Blade, male version of black widow
Or daredevil
Besides Pete's original Spidey suit, his other most iconic look is the Symbiote costume or black and white one. Not the Iron Spider. Sure, it looks cool, but ask most anyone, and they say the symbiote costume after the original
Yes! O.G ultimate universe compilation
Yes please make a video of the Maker. I completely missed the OG Ultimate comics so im not familiar with it personally.
Yes I think making a video on history of the maker would be awesome I’ve definitely forgotten a bit of the makers past and how he came to be
The Maker? YES! YYYEEESSS!!! give us a video of The Maker! ALL of it! EVERY DETAIL! Even the stuff the got retconned. Give us EVERY DETAIL!!!
Yes you should do a video on the Maker
I think it’s beneficial to have a database of characters and their origins and impactful moments for us. So yeah I’d say a video about The Maker would be dope
I like the Velvet Blade moniker, too. Lol
A video on the Maker would be pretty cool. Ultimate FF was nuts in the 2000s.
Yes please do a video on The Maker
yes on the maker. plz
Do the Maker Video. We love the deep dives.
Loving this
Rob saying, “Make love to ya, then kill you…” is a sentence I never thought I’d hear uttered or guffaw at.
Video on the maker??? YES! WE need that
This Ultimate Spiderman series is cookin
Not make love to you then kill you.. that cracked me tf up... I freaking love the name "velvet blade"
Kingpin having a portrait of the maker in his room is funny
I love how Hickman is writing this. It’s so grounded and surreal.