Everything You Need to Know About the Rack Grade M1 Garand from CMP
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Full RM1 Rack Grade description
Rack Grade Rifles. Most of these rifles have been refinished or rebuilt several times while in military service and will have some parts from other manufacturers. RACK GRADES ARE SOLD AS IS WITH NO RETURNS OR EXCHANGES. Rifle wear will be exhibited by worn and mixed colors of the finish; there will be rust and pitting on the metal parts; wood will be basically sound but may be well used with minor hairline cracks, poor fit, many digs, scratches and gouges; wood may not match in color, type of wood or condition. These rifles may have some foreign parts and wood may be Walnut, Birch, Beech or other variety. Rifles do not have import marks. Bores will be dark and poor; the barrel crown may be nicked, and the muzzle may gauge more than “3” on muzzle gauge. The Throat Erosion may gauge more than “5”. The rifle is head spaced with a field guage and function fired. The overall appearance and condition of the rack grade will generally be rougher than any other grade. Fair condition.
Manufacturer selection guarantees only that the receiver was produced by the manufacturer listed. The barrel, receiver, and other parts may have been produced by other manufacturers; and may also be of commercial origin with original, re-parkerized, or other commercial finish.
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Video Credits:
Filmed and Edited By Haisten Smith
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Bobby Jones
Jim Mitchell
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My son said,” No wonder you’re not excited, Daddy, you picked the ugliest one of the bunch”! First time out, the rack grade shot 1/2” three shot group at 25 yds, using ammo available from CMP....and an empty five pound coffee can for a front rest!!! Now I’m excited! Gonna shoot it like I bought it!!! Thanks guys!!!
That’s hilarious! We are glad you’re loving it and passing on the tradition of marksmanship and great American history to your son. Thank you!
Am I weird for wanting a rack grade rifle? Every blemish is a story, a bookmark in the life of the weapon.
Me too,
The bookmark may just be storage in a Philippine wear-house. I want a nice one!
@sharpandloud3422 still patina like thst is impossible to fake, it has to be earned with years and years.
@@popupheadlights Patina is rust plain and simple. If you want a rusty rifle that “earned” the rust while sitting in a box in some other country for decades then go for it! It’s your money :)
Exactly right man! If I'm going to own a little piece of Americana (while there's still an America left), I want some history behind it!
I have purchased Service, Field and Rack Special grades, awesome rifles. I would like every Garand owner to be able to experience that performance from these Garands.
Were you happy with all of them?
I have acquired 2 garands in the past year and both times it’s the best feeling ever.
No other gun got me as excited
You guys are great! I've had the privilege of purchasing six fine rifles from the CMP and each is a treasure. The work you do is important and appreciated. Semper Fi!
Thank you Johnny!
I just joined CMP. i would love to get one of these in my hands soon. it has been a lifelong dream
Would be nice to zoom in closer to show more detail of the wear/defects.
That is a great recommendation!!!
A lot of these rifles will be rough as described but there is definitely hidden gems in there. 2 of my rifles I received were incredible. A March 45 SA receiver with March 45 SA barrel and a HRA with a beautiful DAS and P stamped stock
Call me strange if you want, but I actually prefer the rough look to a pristine one. I like patinas in general, the rough look speaks volumes about its age, and the fact that it still works fine speaks volumes about how well made they are.
Thank you Bobby & Jim for all the great work you do 🇺🇸
Our pleasure! - Bobby and Jim
My dad bought a rack grade back in 1996, and sometime soon I hope to buy my first one! I'll probably spring for a rack grade as well as I would like a been there done that looking M1.
Walked in on a Saturday and picked up a WIN 13 !
I have a great original m1 already. But have been thinking about building a shooter. One that has a good barrel and functions well. But other than that a beater. That I can use to teach young people to shoot with. And teach history at the same time. Is there a grade for ones like that? A rack grade plus. That has a new barrel instead of a new stock. Or maybe even one that has massive amounts of pitting that still works with a good bore. In other words looks are not important at all. But functioning is. Thank you for all the CMP does to teach shooting skills and keeping history alive.
The rack grade shoots very well considering the used barrel. We also offer new barrels for sale on our site if you want to go that route.
The only rifle we currently sale with a new barrel is the Expert Grade. We have a video up covering that as well if you are interested.
Thank you for helping teach the youth.
Here's some more information about our catalogue of rifles.
thecmp.org/sales-and-service/m1-garand/
I bought my first M1 from the cmp in December as something me and my Grandfather could mess around with. I decided on a Rack+ to have the nice stock and the rifle I got I'm actually very pleased with. I'm not gonna lie and say I'm very meticulous or know all there is to know about m1 collecting. But my granfather is a Vietnam veteran that remembers training with the m1 and the one I got from the CMP was a 53 H&R, a lot closer to what he probably trained with in the late 60s. There is pitting on the receiver, but it is so small you have to look really hard to notice it. Most of the pitting is on the underside where it meets the stock so it can't be seen anyway. And all the other parts look great. The biggest downside is yes the barrel was rough, but it was from 43 so I have no complaints. And as soon as my grandfather saw it he had the biggest smile on his face. He grabbed it from me and said, "I remember this heavy sucker." He then told me how he got his rifle expert medal with an m1 that had a worn trigger group. I hope to get some more money together and buy another m1 soon so we can both have one.
Thank you for sharing. We love to hear it! We’re glad your grandfather and you are enjoying it! :)
I got my second M1 this past August. Pitting is what you described- very minor with the majority on the underside of the receiver.
Both of them are H&R; my Service is a 57 and the Rack is a 56 iirc. Most of the parts were replaced during it's life and are SA. Even though the front sight has some play I put a Schuster gas plug in it and it's the one I take to the range.
My older son loves shooting it and I hope to give it to him one day. The Service grade is mine.
Nice to see yalls faces. We love what you're doing, keep it up!
Thanks so much!
@@CivilianMarksmanshipProgram my last visit was in 2019, I hope to someday be able to come down to the south store again
You guys seem like some fun uncles and grandpas.
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Thank you guys for doing what you do. I'm excited to get one of these rifles right at the store. I'm not sure what I want to get so I'll be shopping!
I love the look of that worn out M1. It has history and character.
Box on top shelf, right hand side says “The dog in the saloon was looking for the man who **** his paw” I think.
“In my opinion, the M-1 Rifle is the greatest battle implement ever devised.” - Lieutenant General George S. Patton, Jr.
Thank you CMP
Are the rack grade Garands simply selected for grade or are they being assembled? There are a couple of TH-cam videos out there where they suspected the Rack Grades were being assembled with junk barrels.
If they can send a rifle out whole you bet they do. If there are good parts on an unusable receiver, they will pull them and use them elsewhere when possible. Nothing goes to waste. Just like a traditional armory would do
Yes I'm sure that goes on. Its the other possibility that has me on pause.
When grading a rifle CMP always tries to send the best rifle out possible. We start the grading process at the receiver but the parts, barrel, and stock factor in as well.
@@CivilianMarksmanshipProgram I'm sure they do but the core of my question is whether the CMP is building Rack Grades or grading them as Racks.
I purchased a CMP Special a few years ago and I'm wondering what would be the possibility of getting a rack grade with a SA receiver that was WWII issue?
We can't guarantee any specific rifle with our mail in order system. If you can make it to one of our store locations you can hand pick your rifle from the inventory we have out. Just keep your serial number range in mind and you should be able to find one that falls in line. For Springfield during WW2 your serial number range is 420,000 (December 1941) to 3,888,000 (October 1945). We hope you find what your looking for!
@@CivilianMarksmanshipProgram I'm already planning a trip to the South store.
@@CivilianMarksmanshipProgram I just mailed in my order 1 week ago and waiting for the email. I ordered 3 M1 (Rack, Rack plus, and service). Can you check if I could get the match wood stock and SA for the Rack grade rifle?
Is it advisable to use bullets less than 172 gr for expert grade?
We'd advise no lower than 150 gr. Some ammo will have M1 garand on the box which can be helpful.
If you have anymore questions let us know. Thanks.
@@CivilianMarksmanshipProgram To expand on my earlier comment, if the gun is essentially “new” for expert grade why is there a problem using heavier or lighter bullets?
@@blindfromthesun The M1 Garand requires the correct bullet weight to function safely. Bullets that are too light can cause the gas system to malfunction and fail to cycle the action, while bullets that are too heavy can create excessive pressure that can damage the rifle and cause injury to the shooter.
It is important to note that the M1 Garand was designed in the 1940s and was optimized to handle a specific range of bullet weights within the .30-06 cartridge. Modern ammunition, especially some of the heavier varieties, may not be suitable for use with the M1 Garand, even with a new barrel.
We hope this helps clarify some things.
@@CivilianMarksmanshipProgram while understandably it would be no concern of yours, I understand there is a tunable gas port aftermarket fitting available. This would allow the use of varying bullet weights.
Can you recommend or supply the part to rechamber the piece in .308?
Can you recommend optic mounts for things like red dot sights, ideally to replace or attach to the rear sight base rather than involving any drilling and tapping?
I know luck in the selection process is a huge factor but on average what kind of accuracy is it reasonable to expect from a rack grade gun? Really just want one for the sake of owning a piece of history but I’d like to hunt or shoot a match with it occasionally and would like to know if I should just assume it needs a fresh barrel for that not to be an exercise in frustration.
Do you sell cheap to disabled seniors. The cheapest would be fine
Is the rack grade shootable? Do they all function?
Yes it is! They are all function fired here at our facility as well before they get shipped out.
@@CivilianMarksmanshipProgram Thats incredible. Thanks so much! I will be starting my process to order 1 here soon
@@Garage_Beers We have a guide on our channel that's worth a watch if you haven't ordered from us before. We hope you enjoy it!
Just watched! Very helpful! Thanks
Do cmp sell or just auction now?
You can buy via a mail-in order, in person at one of our 3 store locations, or you could could win an auction. We have a video guide on how to buy on our TH-cam Channel as well.
Here's some more info:thecmp.org/cmp_sales/ordering-information/
@@CivilianMarksmanshipProgram i see. How do i find out which rifle to order ? In the order form?
Well it's really up to you what you want to get. In the video we are commenting on Bobby and Jim go over the rack grade and we have a video on the expert grade as well. Those are the only two currently available via mail in order. You'll put which rifle you want on the 3A of the order form. If you wanted to hand pick your rifle you'd need to come to one of our store locations.
When the gov. Sold rifles for. 12$ to other countries,,but screw us........keep em!!!!!!!
Bought my first Garand in the late 1970's just after I turned 18. I found it in the sporting goods section of the F.W. Woolworth at my local mall. They had two barrels, one filled with M1903's for $250 each and one filled with M1 Garands at $300 each. If I knew then what I know now I'd have both barrels, but funds were tight then so I only bought one, a 3,10x,xxx S/N built in July of 1944 . Some old guys thought I paid too much but she was in great shape and I've been shooting her sparingly ever since. I bought a second one because I have two sons and I'm sensing a fight coming when I'm gone over which one gets the Garand. Now there's one for each. Thank God my daughters don't care or I could go broke.
Plus, you may have to hide one from the gubmint when Kamala sends the FBI to confiscate your guns.
That jazzy music in the background caught me off guard. Nice touch, pretty classy guys😉
Thanks for this very informative vid - I'm a big fan of the Special Rack Grade myself. There is just "something" about a walnut and steel firearm that soothes the soul. The CMP Garands are something special regardless of grade. Your fine work does not go un-noticed.
Rack grade Winchester from Greece with a carved and butchered stock. Replaced furniture and is a shooter comparable to my better grade Springfield. Love the gun, Hate the price to shoot !
Is the wear because it's been used in the field? Because I think that cooler.
Every rifle is unique in a lot of ways so we can't say for sure with each one. On a lot of rifles that is the case. Luckily on some rifles you can track your serial number to certain events, but this can take a lot of time and research.
With the wear on the stocks being the most noticeable on these rack grade rifles you can tell where some of it came from. One of the most common wear patterns is a group of 8 small dents in the wood where someone tapped the enbloc on the stock to even out their rifle rounds.
Obviously, these guys know about the M-1 rifle.
THANK YOU GENTLEMEN
Our pleasure!
These Anniston people are the best!
We try our best! 🫡
Why is youtube recommending all these cmp rack grade m1 garand videos for me😂😂 i havent searched anything related to cmp garands but yet im getting absolutly spammed by these videos from dozens of channels😂 what the fuck youtube?😂
Im about to send in my paperwork. Im hoping for something with history that will clean up nicely.
We hope you love your piece of history!
@CivilianMarksmanshipProgram Just got it yesterday, and it's perfect. Thank you!
How would I go about getting some of these rifles for a drill and color guard unit?
Walker Anthony Johnson Laura Lee Karen
Will the M1A (M-14s) ever come back?
Are all these Rack Grades due to the conditions these rifles were recovered in from the Philippines? I have a Service Garand and love it.
When evaluating the rifle we use the same grading criteria in our armory as you'll see on the website. After we clean the rifle up and insure its full functionality we grade it accordingly.
It can vary widely depending on the box we pull them out of. Some are defiantly have more character than others.
I need one. As a US Marine though, I WANT one that's seen some shit...that has a story. I think that's MUCH cooler than shiny new.
Thank you for your service! The rack grade stocks usually have more of that character.
@@CivilianMarksmanshipProgram My pleasure. I miss it every day.
What does RMI RACK mean? Specifically the RMI part, i understand the Rack is the grade. And "SA 6-65" on the tag? I understand the SA as Springfield Armory, but not the 6-65. I bought it from a seller who didn't have too much info to give. It's my first and only M1 Garand I've got.
I have a 1943 SMLE MkIII* ex Aussie army. It has bits from Ballarat, Lithgow and God knows where. Rough as guts but shoots fine. I love it. Great on pigs and reloading the brass makes it acceptable cost wise. Good on ya for being honest about the grades.
What's the deal about the band on the upper hand guard at the 6:15 minute mark that makes it so collectable?
Thank you CMP for all you do for the gun community.
Prices?
What's the price
All current inventory, sale price, and more information about each grade of M1 garand can be found here!
thecmp.org/sales-and-service/m1-garand/
Good information crap unnecessary background music
Thank you for the feedback, we are learning as we go. Our goal is to grow a stronger presence on TH-cam. So, we appreciate the criticism.
cut to the chase guys. does it work, or not?
They have all been function fired in our firing booth before getting shipped out.