This may gave just been your best episode to date. If I wasnt sold on buying a hoodie to show my support, I am now. I want to spread this episode and your podcast far and wide! I wish you further success in the future.
This is probably one of the most useful podcasts there is for anyone in the herp community. Fran has done so much for the hobby in moving it from the dark ages to where we are today. Credit to you also Dillon for good interview style. Thank you.
OmGoddess, Dillon, I think this has to be in the top 3 shows you ever done. This has made the whole lighting problem so much more clear for me. I've been diagnosed with extreme D3 deficiency and for years have been on a high dose of oral D3. Within 3 weeks of getting my levels back to normal 90% of my health problems cleared up. And I haven't been sick in 3 yrs, not even a bad cold. I'm going to start dialing in my lighting for my snakes and Day Geckos quickly.
Glad you really enjoyed this one! Dr. beans is an incredible wealth of information. And yes, it’s amazing how many of us are likely vitamin D deficient and how powerful that vitamin/hormone is for maintaining health.
Now this one I’m looking forward to watching! It’s worth mentioning (if it’s not in the podcast) that Fran has done considerable work along side/with Professor Gary Ferguson whom I had the pleasure of meeting at the USA AHH Conference in 2019. You may recognise the surname ‘Ferguson’ from what we all know as the UV Zones or ‘Ferguson Zones’. Great work as always Dillon!
Enjoy the episode, Sam! Yep, Fran talked about Gary and she even mentioned another keeper in the UK who is working on a crazy lighting controller that allows you to simulate sunrise and sunset... you may know him 😜
A wonderful lady that I've had the pleasure of meeting a few times. Really knowledgeable on this subject and gives us all pause for thought about how we are keeping our animals and how we can better provide for our charges.
What a fantastic interview! Dr. Baines is incredible, both in her contributions to reptile keeping and in the pleasant, easy way through which she communicates this complex info. My thanks to both of you for making this happen!
Thank you for watching the video! Yes, generally I try to make the Podcasts accessible for both audio only and video. But this is one occasion where the video is an absolute must!
Dr. Baines is BRILLIANT and I think I now understand reptile lighting better, something that has eluded me when I was given information from other sources. Also, I now feel good about brining my reptiles outside every summer, as even tho they are provided UV light, (mostly snakes that "don't need" it,) I knew they were just healthier from time outside and now I know why. LOL.
This was one of the best and most informative talks on reptile lighting. I think that I've been doing well but learned that there's still room for improvement! With respect to dawn and dusk one trick we use is to have a low wattage bulb go on in the room prior to the enclosures going on. Now I'll try to separate the lights in each enclosure to add to the effect. Always learning...
Wow....just wow. After all my planning, all my work to get this new viv ready, even planning the day night cycle to be in line with my water dragons natural habitat, I had never considered for a second how to simulate sunrise and sun set.... Thank you so much for another fantastic video. Time for some research lol
In my opinion unless an animal lives exclusively in a cave or underground, then it needs light, lol. I don't know why people are so contentious about it on Facebook groups... Is it really that hard to at least put in a UV bulb and some type of non UV light? I understand not every reptile keeper has the capabilities to make completely naturalistic light setups but at least get some UV going... Reptiles are so much more active and top being "pet rocks" when they have a proper photo period 🙂. Thank you for getting these experts on the show. You're the only podcast that can keep my attention lol. What you and your guests are doing is really beneficial for all of us
I'm going to have to save this and revisit it. This is exactly the kind of info I've been looking for. I've long wanted some actual science to back up lighting recommendations. Thank you!
wonderful video I shared it on FB. I think you should maybe make a shorter video explaining a lot of this all over again.This video summed up with a lot of detail can help save a lot of reptiles from life of misery. I will make sure all the fb groups see the new video and I'm sure everyone in the community will gladly share it with their viewers as well. It could literally be the most important reptile video that ever came out that everyone must watch.
Thank you for watching the video, I’m glad you enjoyed it! I have clipped out a bunch of sections on my other channel, these are probably more shareable th-cam.com/channels/PyLYjX3OZ0HDUDE2OEp1jQ.html
Amazing conversation Dillan! Thank you for this one. How do you even go about thanking someone who so drastically contributed to our herp keeping? Where do I send the box of chocolates?? THANK YOU DR. BAINES!!!
Bravo Pilar. Your courage is very inspiring - I am deaf and understand the challenges of trying to Navigate life with stress and depression. Photography and magia was my saviour. 🙏🏽
Extremely useful and understandable. I am in the facebook group mentioned and everything is so complicated I can not understand it. Thank you for this both of you
Now that I've listened to all your podcasts, I've realized how talented you are at conversing in academically related topics. I was surprised when you said this wasn't your full-time job or that you haven't come from a science background. You inspired me to pursue an education in studying animals. You the man bruh
Excellent episode! I will definitely be rewatching this one to better understand all the technical information. When you think about how reptiles live in the wild, it just makes sense to me that it helps captive kept reptiles to be able to distinguish between night and day. I know it's controversial, but I always feel bad for reptiles that are kept in tubs. Even nocturnal and certainly crepuscular species surely must benefit from some UVB. I like that some companies have different lights for different reptiles depending upon when they are out and about in the wild.
Thank you for watching episode, it’s definitely one that I had to re-watch as well! And yes I agree, I feel bad for nocturnal animals that don’t have access to a day night cycle
I used to go to those ASRA meetings as a kid!!! We used to meet at penscynor wildlife park. What a blast from the past! We used to travel an hour to attend from the opposite direction. I guess the reptile world was a lot smaller back in the day.
Wauw, this is something of my interest. Very in depth info. So to put everything togheter is a combi of UVB light,a basking light and a infrared is the ideal situation to have.
Thank you for watching! The ideal combination is a UV lamp, a basking lamp (heat bulb) and visible light producing lamp (such as a metal halide or LED)
Im totally late to this, but this was an incredible discussion. It solidified some of the thoughts and reinforced some of my current practices ( im doing some things right, lol) but really dove deep into me having a greater and more holistic understanding of not just UV, but sunlight. Every reptile keeper needs to watch this.
Glad you found value in this episode, Bill! Thanks for watching. Next week I’m recording a similar episode, so hoping to add to this! Great episode you recorded with Roy by the way👌🏼
Glad that I came across this episode! I'm so watching this again and again 😁 Also, what's your experience with the wake up/sleep light? Does your pet have new behaviors?
Yeah, it’s an incredibly valuable episode. Definitely worth watching a couple of times though, the lighting stuff can be complicated! I haven’t really noticed a ton of behavior difference with my snakes, but I did notice more activity during the sunrise setting with my day gecko. That seem to be when she likes to hunt the most.
Dillon I am tremendously grateful for this video. The number of people in reptile Facebook groups that aren't even aware of UVB lights is unfortunate. And even for those of us that do provide UVB, Dr. Baines lecture here is humbling. I'm guessing that 95% (seriously) of reptile owners aren't providing the level of lighting described here... Dr. Baines little PowerPoint was also appreciated and made things much easier to follow. I'm going to be watching this a second time and literally taking notes lol. Your conversations with John Courteney-Smith motivated me to step up from a mega ray MVB to a T5 bulb. But now I think I need to step up to full spectrum and establishing a more dynamic photoperiod rather than lights suddenly on or suddenly off
This was very helpful I have a Tokay gecko. Up till now, I have been using Deep Heat Projectors for heat, an LED full spectrum light for soft, general lighting, and a T5 tube just in the hottest part of the tank. I might have to replace one of my DHP with a halogen to get that IR-A and better signaling of the basking area.
@@AnimalsatHomePodcast I think the hardest part is going to be finding a way to make all the lighting blend properly. I have a 36 x 36 x 18 and right now I have all of the space utilized for the little guy.
I wonder if the reptile community could collaborate with the reefing community on light solutions. Spectrum is super importany for photosynthetic corals, and they have made some pretty good strides with LED that hit all the spectral requirements. That arcadia all in one fixture made me think of this. Really digging this content!
Please consider sharing this episode! Thank you for watching :) *Check out my Clips channel for short, valuable snippets of this episode:* th-cam.com/channels/PyLYjX3OZ0HDUDE2OEp1jQ.html
we don't talk enough about décor and how that has an impact on basking and light placement, i have magnetic ledges a hammocks to make a row for my dragons to bask at different temps and still get the uvb at a good distance, and they use it all, we should always have a reason for anything we put in the enclosures and how that impacts the way the animal uses the whole enclosure, so it gets more exercise, that is also why it good to have the ledges like i do, they are very healthy
Not going to lie, this video had me questioning the ethics of keeping reptiles at all! Sunlight is way more important than I even imagined, and we don't even come close... And I don't typically think along those lines, I'm under no illusions on how brutal nature can be. Super thankful for smart people like Dr Bains and Dr Ferguson to make captive reptile lives better! Live, learn, and do better!
@@AnimalsatHomePodcast When you think of zoos 70 years ago they kept most everything on cement pads with steel bars... Horribly inadequate enclosures with no enrichment for the animals. And now zoos (especially accredited ones) do a pretty impressive job with most animals in their care! Good husbandry has to start somewhere, I suppose, and reptiles have been no worse off than any other animal humans have kept. But to learn about how important sunlight is to these animals and see the charts on how even a combination of lights still isn't quite there... I asked myself "Should we even be trying to keep these animals when we don't have the technology to meet their needs?" Obviously people have been keeping them and are going to still keep them, the best thing we can do is keep learning and keep advancing to better meet their needs! As someone who's spent many years in the horse and ranching worlds I'm pretty used to defending animal keepers. I also think people paint this pretty picture of animal life in the wild, when wild animals generally have way more to worry about than captive ones. Anyway, sorry for the rambling. This was an excellent podcast! I'm still trying to digest it all, haha!
I honestly love this. I’ve studied X-RAY and light for years, in my field, dealing with biotechnology and the simple answer is, yes. If it goes outside of any dwelling, for sunlight, than every ray of light across the spectrum, has a purpose.
what am amazing video :) definitly one that needs watching a fair few times. And will be sharing this in the tegu keeping world. i am wondering if u could do a small cut/video when the red light is explained and shows a great example of what using red bulbs potientally looks like for a lizard. Sadly/frustratingly ppl are still using these bulbs and theres not really any video's i can use to back up why these bulbs are unsuitable. Thx for ur amazing work :)
Update... I got a 4 foot long 6500K led for my terrarium after watching this one. Just installed it last night. I think my first word when turning it on was "holy sh*t"! I didn't realize how dark my terrarium was with just a basking light and UV. This was a great upgrade.
Thank you very much for this episode. It really condenses the important information very well. I do wonder about one specific thing though. Animals use UVa for night vision, but I guess not much UVa will reach nocturnal animals in enclosures in our homes... Is there any knowledge about how much UVa they have at night? And how we can possibly recreate that in the enclosure? Because right now I feel like they won't see a lot at night in the enclosure too because it lacks UVa at night. I think that might even alter activity levels at night (I think it would reduce activity). I will ask this in reptile lighting too, but wanted to open this up for conversation here too.
Thank you for listening, Jens! Glad you enjoyed this episode. And great question… I saw that you also posted it on reptile lighting, So I hope somebody has an answer for you there!
Thank you for watching, glad you enjoyed it! If you have Facebook, definitely check out the Reptile Lighting group or head to JTB Reptile’s TH-cam. Both resources will help you determine the best lighting options! 🙂
Great episode. My question is if it's ok if my jungle dawn covers a lot more of the enclosure than the UV and the halogen? I have the halogen, the deep heat projector and the UV covering the left side of the enclosure but I don't think the plants would do well under the halogen so I bought the biggest jungle dawn (34" long) and I placed it in the middle of the enclosure so I could have plants on the middle and cold side of the enclosure (the enclosure is 5' long and 3' tall). It's for a royal python. The jungle dawn brightens the whole enclosure placed on the middle but when I was testing where to put it, If I put it starting on the left side, the cold side didn't get much light. How do you do it if you want to put plants in the cold side if the jungle dawn is on the hot side?
Having your JD in the middle is perfectly fine! Like you said, the flood of light from the LED bar still illuminates most of the enclosure so there is likely plenty of visual light hitting the basking area (where the halogen and the UV are illuminating). However, you can always play with it. Try sliding the JD to the warm side and see how the plants do. They may still have plenty of light to thrive.
I haven't kept reptiles in almost 10 years, watched the video all the way through anyways. This is my second video and you remind me so much of Joe Rogan. You ask great questions but mostly just stay quiet and let the speaker speak and you pay attention and drill down. You are a fantastic interviewer. Have you ever considered using saltwater reef tank lighting options for snakes? I know they have quite a bit of customization via apps.
Thank you very much for the complementary comment! Glad you are enjoying the show. Personally, I haven't played around with aquarium lighting but I know quite a few people who do use Fluval, etc. brands and they seem to work really well. Especially because they can be programmed as you said.
@@AnimalsatHomePodcast You are welcome! I used to breed bearded dragons and ball pythons. Look at like the AI Prime or Hydra. It would be interesting to see how they compare. I know they are great for growing corals
Western culture is tough, rational and compartmentalizing. Reductionism brought us from trees to the moon. Wanting to break an entity apart and take out its most helpful constituents is natural. How have we managed to grow plants indoors, without them ever seeing real sunlight, just by using only the parts of the spectrum needed, and we won’t be able to do it with animals, if we haven’t done it already? The presentation was excellent though, and I enjoyed it all. I remember UV guide in the past. A very helpful website that has a long time to update.
Reductionism is certainly a powerful tool! And I'm not necessarily knocking it at all, but I think maybe sometimes it is not the proper tool to use? I think the question is, would life thrive even more under the full spectrum? Glad you enjoyed Fran's presentation, thanks for watching!
40:33 What if we used regular LEDs to provide the missing (visible) spectrum and intensity of light in proportion to what is lacking after the UV and any infrared are added? I suppose the largest wildcard there is ambient light from the room, but no more than it is already, right?
Yep you can definitely use regular LED bulbs to fill in the visible spectrum. That’s what most people do actually. The one thing to consider is, not all LED bulbs are built the same. Personally I really like the Arcadia jungle Dawn for visible light
Great video, I would love to see a Royal Python expert talk about their natural habitat and what the best kind of care would be for them. Also we do have a word for blue/green its called teal. Peace
Can Dr. Baines (or anyone) recommend any particular metal halide bulb that are NOT uvb emitting? I'm looking to add one for light purposes only, supplemented by T5 tubes for uvb. I'm having trouble finding one that is in the 5000-6500K range that are just PAR floods. Most of those are either 3000K or 4000K. The one "perfect" bulb I've found in terms of color temperature and spectral distribution is no longer manufactured (from Iwasaki color Eye arc line). Thanks!
Do you have Facebook? If you do, you can post this question in Reptile Lighting and you will likely get a response from Dr. Baines herself (or someone equally qualified to answer!)
Currently for my Boa, Retic and Burm I use a RHP, Arcadia Jungle Dawn and Arcadia UVB. I like the idea of the Thermal Zoo Pro, but it doesn't seem like it would work well with enclosures that don't have a screen or open top.
@@AnimalsatHomePodcast But then we have to worry about the high humidity species in open top/screened enclosures. We are definitely getting better and going in the right direction though.
@@danielhale3312 on my screen top I put a piece of shower curtain over the part of the top that doesn’t have lighting shining through. It definitely helps to reduce humidity loss
Dillon, while most of the interviews that you have done are invaluable though the ones with John Courtney-Smith and Dr. Baines are truthfully the eye opening ones and those that seem to "drive us back to the drawing board"
Excellent epesode, but one question: at 1:16:30 Dr Baines says to turn on incandesent bulds first, then UVB, then metal halides and LEDs, but your video shows the UVs comming on last. So which is correct?
Thanks for watching! Really either way works, it’s just about slowly increasing the light in the viv to roughly simulate the sunrise. If you want to extend your UVB lifespans, turn them on last
Good podcast👍👍👍, so could you u use a LED light WRGB and t5 for UVB and a halogen flood light for bask or should u go only white light? Any thoughts. 😊?
Glad you enjoyed it! You want the visible LED to cover the full colour spectrum. I use Arcadia Jungle Dawn because it provides color through the whole visible spectrum
Now i have done my UV research in a studie, years back using a solar meter. But i was looking at the output, so for example; a megaray, a solar raptor have a output of around 350uw/cm2 at 30cm. And a for example TL or smaller light of different brands have an output of around 50 uw/cm2. Why is this not mentioned when it comes to picking the correct light. How does this works togheter with the UVI index? Because if i went outside in a partly cloudy day UV levels would be over a 150uw/cm2 and this was in The Netherlands so not even the tropical or full sun envirement.
Many of my geckos do quite well with normal room temps. I have only had ~16 years' experience using Zoo Med's 5.0 UVB T8 tubes for several Phelsuma. Other geckos bask under their 25 watt incandescent bulbs. Here's my concern. How does the fact that vitamin D3 is fat soluble come into play when dosing? Without knowing exact details, I've been lightly dusting my geckos' crickets with Zoo Med's Repti Calcium with D3 @ roughly 1 feeding per week (+/- other supplements). In addition since 2015, in order to "build a better bug" I've fed all my crickets 24/7 with finely ground Zoo Med's Natural ADULT Bearded Dragon Food. That seems to really work! For years my 18 year old CB female Ptychozoon kuhli (Gekko kuhli) is totally healthy without any further dusting of her crickets at all. She does have generous calcium sac bulges on both side of her face. None of my geckos have metabolic bone disease.
Thank you for watching! As far as I can tell, Vit D3 is difficult to dose. Technically they cannot overdose on D3 however, if the animal has a high level of calcium in their diet they can theoretically suffer from Vitamin D3 hypervitaminosis which eventually leads to the calcification of organs, etc. I think the right move is to use adequate levels of UV and sparingly use an oral D3 (maybe a couple of times per month as you are doing).
This was Awesome! I've always known that though one uv light is better than nothing it isn't close to as good as the sun. No one I've ever seen have a 4 Light set up as shown. Realistically most will not.. and for breeders of large collections, it's almost impossible. Would be nice for keepers though to be able to give that kind of set up. Smaller collections with better care, unfortunately, everyone seems to want to breed.
@@zaba1959 over the years knowledge has changed so when you spend a decade keeping Them it just isn't realistic as nice as it would be. None of us would have any animals if this was the case because no one was keeping them with 4 light set ups lol. I can also say 99% of keepers are not giving their reptiles this because this type of care is new to us. Lol so now I should get rid of 100 animals cause I can't afford to set them up this way? And if I did you think I'd be able to find 100 ppl that would? Your thinking is nice but very flawed. Everyone should do the best they can. Reptiles used to be kept till they died and that was the norm back in the day. Then over time care has gotten better. Captive breeding is important. If it wasn't for captive breeding we would be taking way more from the wild which we still do. I personally spend time with all my animals and give them all sunlight. Also handle them from the time they are born to be able to have very well mannered animals. Do I give them all a 4 light 300$+ set up like shown in this video? No I don't. Would I like to sure! Look at ppl some have way more than what they need and some barely are able to live. There is a whole spectrum. You going to hate on a lady with a baby she can't feed properly? It sucks but that's life. I give the best I can and though that might not be the best I know I do a better job than most keepers and I'm ok with that. When I sell a pet to anyone I always encourage them to give the animals the best they can. I've Changed from someone that thought it is fine to keep your reptiles in tubs. So I am downsizing which takes a long time cause I'm not willing to just ditch my animals that I've kept for longer than my daughter to anyone. Also explain how you would give that type of lighting to the 100+ new babies produced each year? Not possible. We all have to give our best if you can do it great. I always new the UVB bulbs arent close to as good as the sun and this video shows that. Progression takes time and should be encouraged. You can't just go bashing on ppl. Its the biggest problem in this community. If you do it right. Show it and encourage others. Remember that our community was built on people giving improper care cause they didn't know any better and most likely you wouldn't be able to keep anything if it wasn't for them.
@@SnakeCakeExotics What I said remains a truth. In a video peer review program we run, we say that “Our ethos is to promote the gold standard in herpetological husbandry - with the understanding that not all are able to get there but are willing to have a target to aspire to.” I agree that if you have a big collection, making change can have serious implications, you have to not just add lamps, their fixtures and controllers but also make changes to the cages themselves, provide more space. If you want to keep as many as you do now, then I can tell you that the power demand will go up also. I understand that almost every other week more knowledge is added which throws out of the window existing practices, that will always be a fact of life. I do hope that you are able to develop your husbandry as you intimate, and I guess time will tell how successful you are. Advice is always offered and sometimes easier half way house solutions work well and can be discussed on the FB pages. This video is all about Frans addition to our keeping, and I don't intend to hijack it any further.
I have and always have had a 4 light set up for my uro. Saying that no one has that set up is strange. I learned this when I was first setting him up a few years ago through a Facebook group…
Having trouble adding metal halides due to intensity/shadows from other fixtures/etc. Am i missing something important by having only halogens + t5UVB + jungle dawn led?
i have a crested gecko and i'm really curious, he mentioned he created a dappling effevt, i've been trying to find it, could someone point out to me what video he talks about it, i'd love to set something like that up.
@@AnimalsatHomePodcast I have a large enclosure for my asian water monitor, 4x2x2 meters But i want to know if every infrared patio heater produces IR A or B? Only "sauna/wellness resorts" use the terms of Full spectrum infrared. Patio heaters dont mention anything accept that it keeps you warm outside. So to cut to the chase, every infrared light produces IR a and B?
Sounds like an amazing enclosure! Now that I think about it, most patio heaters are carbon filament which means they will be most giving off IRB and a little bit of IRA. Tungsten filament lamps produce most IRA... I'm not sure if they make patio heaters with tungsten though. It's possible they use the patio heaters in zoos to maintain background heat but supplement IRA with Halogen basking bulbs. Are you on Facebook? This would would a great question for the Reptile Lighting group, Roman Muryn will likely have an answer for you.
@@AnimalsatHomePodcast sorry i dont have facebook. At this point i have 4 daylight LED strips and a 3 point basking spot So im now at the point of will i go for a "spa/wellness" infrared full spectrum IR heater and at the basking spot a uvb bulb and 2 basking spots or just a infrared panel (IRC?) And use a deep heat projector, a uvb bulb and a basking spot. What do you think is best?
Thanks. Makes sense. Very little info out there about dealing with babies from breeders who have never had light or activity. Some just settle right away but some clearly struggle to transition. It'a almost an area keepers are expected to learn from experience and after the fact.(which could end badly). I feel info about habituating baby animals should be more readily available.
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@@AnimalsatHomePodcast one more question if you don’t mind! The rack you’re using is 24inches wide/deep, are your enclosures 24 wide as well? Wondering if mine would fit safely/comfortably on there
oh man this is confusing i just bought all arcadia deep heat projectors for my setups and now find out that halogen bulbs would have been better, this is getting expensive haha
Haha yeah I know! It is far from a simple topic. But yes, halogens are far better for day time basking. However, you can buy a halogen bulb from the hardware store for relatively cheap (if you can find one)
Such a great podcast 🙌🏼🙌🏼 very insightful. I’m now off to buy more bulbs 😂
Glad you enjoyed it! It would be impossible not to enjoy a lecture by Dr. Baines I think. Happy shopping 🙂
If you do, please do a video on it! Would love to see how you go about it and how the reptiles respond!
Her voice is so pleasant and her accomplishments are awe inspiring!! What an episode!! ❤️
Could not agree more! Thank you for watching, Victoria 😁
This may gave just been your best episode to date. If I wasnt sold on buying a hoodie to show my support, I am now. I want to spread this episode and your podcast far and wide! I wish you further success in the future.
Thank you very much for the kind words, I really appreciate the support!
This is probably one of the most useful podcasts there is for anyone in the herp community. Fran has done so much for the hobby in moving it from the dark ages to where we are today. Credit to you also Dillon for good interview style. Thank you.
Could not agree more, Fran has been invaluable to the hobby! Thanks for watching, Roman
I also struggle with herps
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OmGoddess, Dillon, I think this has to be in the top 3 shows you ever done. This has made the whole lighting problem so much more clear for me. I've been diagnosed with extreme D3 deficiency and for years have been on a high dose of oral D3. Within 3 weeks of getting my levels back to normal 90% of my health problems cleared up. And I haven't been sick in 3 yrs, not even a bad cold. I'm going to start dialing in my lighting for my snakes and Day Geckos quickly.
Glad you really enjoyed this one! Dr. beans is an incredible wealth of information. And yes, it’s amazing how many of us are likely vitamin D deficient and how powerful that vitamin/hormone is for maintaining health.
Now this one I’m looking forward to watching!
It’s worth mentioning (if it’s not in the podcast) that Fran has done considerable work along side/with Professor Gary Ferguson whom I had the pleasure of meeting at the USA AHH Conference in 2019.
You may recognise the surname ‘Ferguson’ from what we all know as the UV Zones or ‘Ferguson Zones’.
Great work as always Dillon!
Enjoy the episode, Sam! Yep, Fran talked about Gary and she even mentioned another keeper in the UK who is working on a crazy lighting controller that allows you to simulate sunrise and sunset... you may know him 😜
@@AnimalsatHomePodcast haha. Yeah she told me she’d mentioned that. Not sure who that mad guy is. 😂
@@HerpHQ I think I might just know him lol... 😉
Great episode !
Thank you, Cooper!
Thank you for this interview!
Thanks for watching, Lori!
A wonderful lady that I've had the pleasure of meeting a few times. Really knowledgeable on this subject and gives us all pause for thought about how we are keeping our animals and how we can better provide for our charges.
Absolutely! I think this episode was probably one of the most influential for many of the listeners. Fran is brilliant!
What a fantastic interview! Dr. Baines is incredible, both in her contributions to reptile keeping and in the pleasant, easy way through which she communicates this complex info. My thanks to both of you for making this happen!
Thank you for watching, Justin! Glad you enjoyed it.
This was amazing. If you watch this video, share this video.
Thank you, Steven!
Kudos to BOTH of you! Seeing you guys in person has made my day!
Thank you so much for watching, Elizabeth! 😁
I enjoy the podcast, but I'm glad to have seen this video because there was so much in her visuals to help explain things! Thanks for the video.
Thank you for watching the video! Yes, generally I try to make the Podcasts accessible for both audio only and video. But this is one occasion where the video is an absolute must!
Dr. Baines is BRILLIANT and I think I now understand reptile lighting better, something that has eluded me when I was given information from other sources. Also, I now feel good about brining my reptiles outside every summer, as even tho they are provided UV light, (mostly snakes that "don't need" it,) I knew they were just healthier from time outside and now I know why. LOL.
Thank you very much for watching, Victoria! I’m glad you found it so valuable 😁
if you do much real research like I have...then...you know that they probably do....just not apparent to you is all
This is one of the most useful videos I've ever watched. Thank you both so much!!!
Thank you very much for watching!
This was one of the best and most informative talks on reptile lighting. I think that I've been doing well but learned that there's still room for improvement! With respect to dawn and dusk one trick we use is to have a low wattage bulb go on in the room prior to the enclosures going on. Now I'll try to separate the lights in each enclosure to add to the effect. Always learning...
Thank you for watching, Rick! Glad you found it valuable. That is a fantastic idea to simulate dusk and dawn. Thank you for sharing!
I look forward to these videos every week! Very exited for this episode
Thank you, Jack! Enjoy the episode, it’s a good one!
This was absolutely brilliant. Thank you so much. Will be researching this subject so much more.
Glad you enjoyed it! :)
Her voice is unintentional ASMR. The content was so useful to me!
Glad you enjoyed the episode! Thank you for watching
Absolutely fantastic episode. Thanks for sharing.
Glad you enjoyed it, Oscar! Thank you for watching 😀
This was absolutely stellar! Excellent interview and essential information.
Thank you for watching, Hedda!
I've been working hard just to be able to spend the time to fully watch this! Note pad is ready !
Awesome, enjoy the episode Richard!
Brilliant episode and learnt so much. Definitely needs a second watch!
Thank you, Dave! Yes, I had to watch it a couple of times as well!
I need one of those Arcadia lighting set-ups! No more wires tangling! Can't wait until they are available in the US!
Same here!!
There are some shops that are starting to carry some arcadia stuff here!
Thank you great info
I admit I haven't been keeping up well over the summer but is the intro new? Love it. Listening to the rest now.
Thanks, Matt! I’ve only been using it for the past 10 or so episodes! Glad you like it
One of the best, fantastic podcast, thanks a lot!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Wonderful: so much fascinating information. A complex subject indeed...
Thank you, John! Yes, it is incredibly complex but as you said, it’s also fascinating.
Great show. I would keen to hear more on the physiological processes caused by IR-a, IR-b and UVA
Glad you enjoyed the episode, thank you for watching! We will definitely add the physiological processes into the next discussion!
I think a lot of us will now rethink out heating and lighting provisions based on this podcast.
I think you are correct about that!
Great, informative video. Thanks.
Thanks for watching!
Wow....just wow. After all my planning, all my work to get this new viv ready, even planning the day night cycle to be in line with my water dragons natural habitat, I had never considered for a second how to simulate sunrise and sun set.... Thank you so much for another fantastic video. Time for some research lol
Thanks for watching the episode, Andy! Glad we could spark another idea for you :)
In my opinion unless an animal lives exclusively in a cave or underground, then it needs light, lol. I don't know why people are so contentious about it on Facebook groups... Is it really that hard to at least put in a UV bulb and some type of non UV light?
I understand not every reptile keeper has the capabilities to make completely naturalistic light setups but at least get some UV going... Reptiles are so much more active and top being "pet rocks" when they have a proper photo period 🙂.
Thank you for getting these experts on the show. You're the only podcast that can keep my attention lol. What you and your guests are doing is really beneficial for all of us
Thanks so much for the kind words, Jason. Thank you for watching!
I'm going to have to save this and revisit it. This is exactly the kind of info I've been looking for. I've long wanted some actual science to back up lighting recommendations. Thank you!
Awesome, glad the episode was helpful for you!
I’ve been waiting for this one 👍
I think you will enjoy it! 😎
Pure gold.
Thanks very much 💓🥰
Thanks for watching, Graham!
wonderful video I shared it on FB. I think you should maybe make a shorter video explaining a lot of this all over again.This video summed up with a lot of detail can help save a lot of reptiles from life of misery. I will make sure all the fb groups see the new video and I'm sure everyone in the community will gladly share it with their viewers as well. It could literally be the most important reptile video that ever came out that everyone must watch.
Thank you for watching the video, I’m glad you enjoyed it! I have clipped out a bunch of sections on my other channel, these are probably more shareable th-cam.com/channels/PyLYjX3OZ0HDUDE2OEp1jQ.html
Amazing video!!!
Dr. Baines is amazing! I’m glad you enjoyed the video
Wow! Just Wow!! Thank you so much!
I know right? Isn’t Fran awesome?!
Very interesting and well educated up on ,,,,,,, well done ,,,,,
Dr. Baines is amazing! Thanks for watching this one
Seen this episode 3 times, and in each time I have a new take away. So interesting 🤓👏👏👏 ...
Love to hear that!
Amaizing work 🤙🏻
Thanks, Reggie!
Amazing conversation Dillan! Thank you for this one. How do you even go about thanking someone who so drastically contributed to our herp keeping? Where do I send the box of chocolates?? THANK YOU DR. BAINES!!!
Thank you for watching, Natalia! I’m sure Dr. Baines accepts virtual chocolates 🍫😁
Bravo Pilar. Your courage is very inspiring - I am deaf and understand the challenges of trying to
Navigate life with stress and depression. Photography and magia was my saviour. 🙏🏽
Love this!
Thanks for watching, Olivia!
Extremely useful and understandable. I am in the facebook group mentioned and everything is so complicated I can not understand it. Thank you for this both of you
Thank you for watching, happy to hear that you found this helpful!
Thanks!
Thank you very much!
Now that I've listened to all your podcasts, I've realized how talented you are at conversing in academically related topics. I was surprised when you said this wasn't your full-time job or that you haven't come from a science background. You inspired me to pursue an education in studying animals. You the man bruh
Thank you very much for the kind words, very much appreciated! And yep… A bachelor of arts, and a full-time swim coach 😂
Stoked to hear that you’re interested in pursuing animal studies, that is fantastic
My favorite podcast
Glad you enjoyed it, thank you very much for watching!
Excellent episode! I will definitely be rewatching this one to better understand all the technical information. When you think about how reptiles live in the wild, it just makes sense to me that it helps captive kept reptiles to be able to distinguish between night and day. I know it's controversial, but I always feel bad for reptiles that are kept in tubs. Even nocturnal and certainly crepuscular species surely must benefit from some UVB. I like that some companies have different lights for different reptiles depending upon when they are out and about in the wild.
Thank you for watching episode, it’s definitely one that I had to re-watch as well! And yes I agree, I feel bad for nocturnal animals that don’t have access to a day night cycle
Brilliant podcast!
Thanks, Joseph!
Not got the chance to watch this yet but here’s my early publish like and comment for engagement metrics ☺️
Thank you! 😎 Enjoy the episode!
I used to go to those ASRA meetings as a kid!!! We used to meet at penscynor wildlife park. What a blast from the past! We used to travel an hour to attend from the opposite direction. I guess the reptile world was a lot smaller back in the day.
That’s awesome!
Wauw, this is something of my interest. Very in depth info.
So to put everything togheter is a combi of UVB light,a basking light and a infrared is the ideal situation to have.
Thank you for watching! The ideal combination is a UV lamp, a basking lamp (heat bulb) and visible light producing lamp (such as a metal halide or LED)
Im totally late to this, but this was an incredible discussion. It solidified some of the thoughts and reinforced some of my current practices ( im doing some things right, lol) but really dove deep into me having a greater and more holistic understanding of not just UV, but sunlight. Every reptile keeper needs to watch this.
Glad you found value in this episode, Bill! Thanks for watching. Next week I’m recording a similar episode, so hoping to add to this! Great episode you recorded with Roy by the way👌🏼
@AnimalsatHomePodcast excellent I'm looking forward to it! And thanks so much I appreciate that!
Glad that I came across this episode!
I'm so watching this again and again 😁
Also, what's your experience with the wake up/sleep light? Does your pet have new behaviors?
Yeah, it’s an incredibly valuable episode. Definitely worth watching a couple of times though, the lighting stuff can be complicated!
I haven’t really noticed a ton of behavior difference with my snakes, but I did notice more activity during the sunrise setting with my day gecko. That seem to be when she likes to hunt the most.
Dillon I am tremendously grateful for this video.
The number of people in reptile Facebook groups that aren't even aware of UVB lights is unfortunate. And even for those of us that do provide UVB, Dr. Baines lecture here is humbling. I'm guessing that 95% (seriously) of reptile owners aren't providing the level of lighting described here... Dr. Baines little PowerPoint was also appreciated and made things much easier to follow.
I'm going to be watching this a second time and literally taking notes lol.
Your conversations with John Courteney-Smith motivated me to step up from a mega ray MVB to a T5 bulb. But now I think I need to step up to full spectrum and establishing a more dynamic photoperiod rather than lights suddenly on or suddenly off
Thank you very much for watching, Jason! I’m glad you found this valuable… Yes, it’s definitely one that needs to be watched a couple of times!
This was very helpful I have a Tokay gecko. Up till now, I have been using Deep Heat Projectors for heat, an LED full spectrum light for soft, general lighting, and a T5 tube just in the hottest part of the tank. I might have to replace one of my DHP with a halogen to get that IR-A and better signaling of the basking area.
Glad you found it so helpful! I think that is a great idea 👌🏼
@@AnimalsatHomePodcast I think the hardest part is going to be finding a way to make all the lighting blend properly. I have a 36 x 36 x 18 and right now I have all of the space utilized for the little guy.
Wow 🤩 what thank you brother so much
Thank you for watching!
I already love it
Enjoy the episode! 😁
I wonder if the reptile community could collaborate with the reefing community on light solutions. Spectrum is super importany for photosynthetic corals, and they have made some pretty good strides with LED that hit all the spectral requirements. That arcadia all in one fixture made me think of this.
Really digging this content!
There’s a few companies starting to work with both, check this guys out! skylight.blue/
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we don't talk enough about décor and how that has an impact on basking and light placement, i have magnetic ledges a hammocks to make a row for my dragons to bask at different temps and still get the uvb at a good distance, and they use it all, we should always have a reason for anything we put in the enclosures and how that impacts the way the animal uses the whole enclosure, so it gets more exercise, that is also why it good to have the ledges like i do, they are very healthy
Very very good point!! I plan on covering this aspect next time we chat light on the podcast
Not going to lie, this video had me questioning the ethics of keeping reptiles at all! Sunlight is way more important than I even imagined, and we don't even come close... And I don't typically think along those lines, I'm under no illusions on how brutal nature can be.
Super thankful for smart people like Dr Bains and Dr Ferguson to make captive reptile lives better! Live, learn, and do better!
I know exactly how you feel!! I feel guilty about keeping reptiles captive all the time, I think any conscientious keeper feels the same way!
@@AnimalsatHomePodcast When you think of zoos 70 years ago they kept most everything on cement pads with steel bars... Horribly inadequate enclosures with no enrichment for the animals. And now zoos (especially accredited ones) do a pretty impressive job with most animals in their care! Good husbandry has to start somewhere, I suppose, and reptiles have been no worse off than any other animal humans have kept.
But to learn about how important sunlight is to these animals and see the charts on how even a combination of lights still isn't quite there... I asked myself "Should we even be trying to keep these animals when we don't have the technology to meet their needs?" Obviously people have been keeping them and are going to still keep them, the best thing we can do is keep learning and keep advancing to better meet their needs!
As someone who's spent many years in the horse and ranching worlds I'm pretty used to defending animal keepers. I also think people paint this pretty picture of animal life in the wild, when wild animals generally have way more to worry about than captive ones.
Anyway, sorry for the rambling. This was an excellent podcast! I'm still trying to digest it all, haha!
Brain 🧠 Overload 🤯👍🏾
Great Video!
haha yeah I hear ya! Definitely want to be watched a couple of times. Glad you enjoyed it!
I honestly love this. I’ve studied X-RAY and light for years, in my field, dealing with biotechnology and the simple answer is, yes. If it goes outside of any dwelling, for sunlight, than every ray of light across the spectrum, has a purpose.
Thanks for watching Samuel and adding your input! I’m glad you enjoyed it 🙂
what am amazing video :) definitly one that needs watching a fair few times.
And will be sharing this in the tegu keeping world.
i am wondering if u could do a small cut/video when the red light is explained and shows a great example of what using red bulbs potientally looks like for a lizard. Sadly/frustratingly ppl are still using these bulbs and theres not really any video's i can use to back up why these bulbs are unsuitable.
Thx for ur amazing work :)
Thank you, Jess! :) Clipping out that section is a great idea. Keep an eye on my other channel for it: th-cam.com/channels/PyLYjX3OZ0HDUDE2OEp1jQ.html
@@AnimalsatHomePodcast brilliant thx :D
Update... I got a 4 foot long 6500K led for my terrarium after watching this one. Just installed it last night. I think my first word when turning it on was "holy sh*t"! I didn't realize how dark my terrarium was with just a basking light and UV. This was a great upgrade.
I had the exact same experience when I added an LED to my day gecko viv 😂. A Uv lamp + basking lamp alone is a tiny amount of light!
I need to download those spectrum charts
Great idea!
Thank you very much for this episode. It really condenses the important information very well.
I do wonder about one specific thing though.
Animals use UVa for night vision, but I guess not much UVa will reach nocturnal animals in enclosures in our homes...
Is there any knowledge about how much UVa they have at night? And how we can possibly recreate that in the enclosure? Because right now I feel like they won't see a lot at night in the enclosure too because it lacks UVa at night. I think that might even alter activity levels at night (I think it would reduce activity).
I will ask this in reptile lighting too, but wanted to open this up for conversation here too.
Thank you for listening, Jens! Glad you enjoyed this episode. And great question… I saw that you also posted it on reptile lighting, So I hope somebody has an answer for you there!
I want to ask her what type of lighting setup is best for leopard geckos!!! Amazing episode!!!!
Thank you for watching, glad you enjoyed it! If you have Facebook, definitely check out the Reptile Lighting group or head to JTB Reptile’s TH-cam. Both resources will help you determine the best lighting options! 🙂
Great episode. My question is if it's ok if my jungle dawn covers a lot more of the enclosure than the UV and the halogen? I have the halogen, the deep heat projector and the UV covering the left side of the enclosure but I don't think the plants would do well under the halogen so I bought the biggest jungle dawn (34" long) and I placed it in the middle of the enclosure so I could have plants on the middle and cold side of the enclosure (the enclosure is 5' long and 3' tall). It's for a royal python. The jungle dawn brightens the whole enclosure placed on the middle but when I was testing where to put it, If I put it starting on the left side, the cold side didn't get much light. How do you do it if you want to put plants in the cold side if the jungle dawn is on the hot side?
Having your JD in the middle is perfectly fine! Like you said, the flood of light from the LED bar still illuminates most of the enclosure so there is likely plenty of visual light hitting the basking area (where the halogen and the UV are illuminating). However, you can always play with it. Try sliding the JD to the warm side and see how the plants do. They may still have plenty of light to thrive.
great and Ill have to listen again. Is there any information regarding giving reptiles vitamin D like humans have via supplements?
Thank you for watching! We do talk a little bit about it in this episode th-cam.com/video/Rg2HoYpq0fQ/w-d-xo.htmlsi=21cjr4oIqRGRhNS7
I haven't kept reptiles in almost 10 years, watched the video all the way through anyways. This is my second video and you remind me so much of Joe Rogan. You ask great questions but mostly just stay quiet and let the speaker speak and you pay attention and drill down. You are a fantastic interviewer. Have you ever considered using saltwater reef tank lighting options for snakes? I know they have quite a bit of customization via apps.
Thank you very much for the complementary comment! Glad you are enjoying the show. Personally, I haven't played around with aquarium lighting but I know quite a few people who do use Fluval, etc. brands and they seem to work really well. Especially because they can be programmed as you said.
@@AnimalsatHomePodcast You are welcome! I used to breed bearded dragons and ball pythons. Look at like the AI Prime or Hydra. It would be interesting to see how they compare. I know they are great for growing corals
Western culture is tough, rational and compartmentalizing. Reductionism brought us from trees to the moon. Wanting to break an entity apart and take out its most helpful constituents is natural. How have we managed to grow plants indoors, without them ever seeing real sunlight, just by using only the parts of the spectrum needed, and we won’t be able to do it with animals, if we haven’t done it already? The presentation was excellent though, and I enjoyed it all. I remember UV guide in the past. A very helpful website that has a long time to update.
Reductionism is certainly a powerful tool! And I'm not necessarily knocking it at all, but I think maybe sometimes it is not the proper tool to use? I think the question is, would life thrive even more under the full spectrum? Glad you enjoyed Fran's presentation, thanks for watching!
40:33 What if we used regular LEDs to provide the missing (visible) spectrum and intensity of light in proportion to what is lacking after the UV and any infrared are added?
I suppose the largest wildcard there is ambient light from the room, but no more than it is already, right?
Yep you can definitely use regular LED bulbs to fill in the visible spectrum. That’s what most people do actually. The one thing to consider is, not all LED bulbs are built the same. Personally I really like the Arcadia jungle Dawn for visible light
Great video, I would love to see a Royal Python expert talk about their natural habitat and what the best kind of care would be for them. Also we do have a word for blue/green its called teal. Peace
yes, that would make for a great episode! I will see if I can track someone down!
@@AnimalsatHomePodcast Awesome! Hope you manage to find someone
Can Dr. Baines (or anyone) recommend any particular metal halide bulb that are NOT uvb emitting? I'm looking to add one for light purposes only, supplemented by T5 tubes for uvb. I'm having trouble finding one that is in the 5000-6500K range that are just PAR floods. Most of those are either 3000K or 4000K. The one "perfect" bulb I've found in terms of color temperature and spectral distribution is no longer manufactured (from Iwasaki color Eye arc line). Thanks!
Do you have Facebook? If you do, you can post this question in Reptile Lighting and you will likely get a response from Dr. Baines herself (or someone equally qualified to answer!)
Currently for my Boa, Retic and Burm I use a RHP, Arcadia Jungle Dawn and Arcadia UVB.
I like the idea of the Thermal Zoo Pro, but it doesn't seem like it would work well with enclosures that don't have a screen or open top.
Yeah I agree, I think we are going to start seeing more enclosures move in the "open top/screened top" direction because of that!
@@AnimalsatHomePodcast But then we have to worry about the high humidity species in open top/screened enclosures. We are definitely getting better and going in the right direction though.
@@danielhale3312 on my screen top I put a piece of shower curtain over the part of the top that doesn’t have lighting shining through. It definitely helps to reduce humidity loss
Dillon, while most of the interviews that you have done are invaluable though the ones with John Courtney-Smith and Dr. Baines are truthfully the eye opening ones and those that seem to "drive us back to the drawing board"
I completely agree with that statement! I have learned so much from both of them!
@@AnimalsatHomePodcast yeah if they don't make you start to second guess what we are doing then in my opinion you are doing it wrong
Excellent epesode, but one question: at 1:16:30 Dr Baines says to turn on incandesent bulds first, then UVB, then metal halides and LEDs, but your video shows the UVs comming on last. So which is correct?
Thanks for watching! Really either way works, it’s just about slowly increasing the light in the viv to roughly simulate the sunrise. If you want to extend your UVB lifespans, turn them on last
@@AnimalsatHomePodcast Cheers
Can you tell me the best setup for leopard gecko in a 3ft wooden viv please?
Do you mean lighting setup?
Good podcast👍👍👍, so could you u use a LED light WRGB and t5 for UVB and a halogen flood light for bask or should u go only white light?
Any thoughts. 😊?
Glad you enjoyed it! You want the visible LED to cover the full colour spectrum. I use Arcadia Jungle Dawn because it provides color through the whole visible spectrum
@@AnimalsatHomePodcast perfect thx for the suggestion
For my leopard gecko, I currently use the Arcadia halogen light and the Arcadia shade dweller uvb. Which full spectrum light do you recommend ?
Wow you can tell she has dedicated herself to this and I have selfishly grabbed that knowledge from your episode. Haha victory is mine!
haha awesome! Thanks for watching, Keith!
Now i have done my UV research in a studie, years back using a solar meter.
But i was looking at the output, so for example; a megaray, a solar raptor have a output of around 350uw/cm2 at 30cm.
And a for example TL or smaller light of different brands have an output of around 50 uw/cm2.
Why is this not mentioned when it comes to picking the correct light. How does this works togheter with the UVI index? Because if i went outside in a partly cloudy day UV levels would be over a 150uw/cm2 and this was in The Netherlands so not even the tropical or full sun envirement.
Yes that is a really good point. The next time we discuss this topic I’ll make sure to include a section about UVI versus power density!
Many of my geckos do quite well with normal room temps. I have only had ~16 years' experience using Zoo Med's 5.0 UVB T8 tubes for several Phelsuma. Other geckos bask under their 25 watt incandescent bulbs. Here's my concern.
How does the fact that vitamin D3 is fat soluble come into play when dosing? Without knowing exact details, I've been lightly dusting my geckos' crickets with Zoo Med's Repti Calcium with D3 @ roughly 1 feeding per week (+/- other supplements). In addition since 2015, in order to "build a better bug" I've fed all my crickets 24/7 with finely ground Zoo Med's Natural ADULT Bearded Dragon Food. That seems to really work!
For years my 18 year old CB female Ptychozoon kuhli (Gekko kuhli) is totally healthy without any further dusting of her crickets at all. She does have generous calcium sac bulges on both side of her face.
None of my geckos have metabolic bone disease.
Thank you for watching! As far as I can tell, Vit D3 is difficult to dose. Technically they cannot overdose on D3 however, if the animal has a high level of calcium in their diet they can theoretically suffer from Vitamin D3 hypervitaminosis which eventually leads to the calcification of organs, etc. I think the right move is to use adequate levels of UV and sparingly use an oral D3 (maybe a couple of times per month as you are doing).
This was Awesome! I've always known that though one uv light is better than nothing it isn't close to as good as the sun. No one I've ever seen have a 4 Light set up as shown. Realistically most will not.. and for breeders of large collections, it's almost impossible. Would be nice for keepers though to be able to give that kind of set up. Smaller collections with better care, unfortunately, everyone seems to want to breed.
Agreed. Smaller collections with better care is definitely the way to go.
The size of collection should not be a factor in the quality of care you provide. You should only keep as many as you can provide full care for.
@@zaba1959 over the years knowledge has changed so when you spend a decade keeping Them it just isn't realistic as nice as it would be. None of us would have any animals if this was the case because no one was keeping them with 4 light set ups lol. I can also say 99% of keepers are not giving their reptiles this because this type of care is new to us. Lol so now I should get rid of 100 animals cause I can't afford to set them up this way? And if I did you think I'd be able to find 100 ppl that would? Your thinking is nice but very flawed. Everyone should do the best they can. Reptiles used to be kept till they died and that was the norm back in the day. Then over time care has gotten better. Captive breeding is important. If it wasn't for captive breeding we would be taking way more from the wild which we still do. I personally spend time with all my animals and give them all sunlight. Also handle them from the time they are born to be able to have very well mannered animals. Do I give them all a 4 light 300$+ set up like shown in this video? No I don't. Would I like to sure! Look at ppl some have way more than what they need and some barely are able to live. There is a whole spectrum. You going to hate on a lady with a baby she can't feed properly? It sucks but that's life. I give the best I can and though that might not be the best I know I do a better job than most keepers and I'm ok with that. When I sell a pet to anyone I always encourage them to give the animals the best they can. I've Changed from someone that thought it is fine to keep your reptiles in tubs. So I am downsizing which takes a long time cause I'm not willing to just ditch my animals that I've kept for longer than my daughter to anyone. Also explain how you would give that type of lighting to the 100+ new babies produced each year? Not possible. We all have to give our best if you can do it great. I always new the UVB bulbs arent close to as good as the sun and this video shows that. Progression takes time and should be encouraged. You can't just go bashing on ppl. Its the biggest problem in this community. If you do it right. Show it and encourage others. Remember that our community was built on people giving improper care cause they didn't know any better and most likely you wouldn't be able to keep anything if it wasn't for them.
@@SnakeCakeExotics What I said remains a truth. In a video peer review program we run, we say that “Our ethos is to promote the gold standard in herpetological husbandry - with the understanding that not all are able to get there but are willing to have a target to aspire to.” I agree that if you have a big collection, making change can have serious implications, you have to not just add lamps, their fixtures and controllers but also make changes to the cages themselves, provide more space. If you want to keep as many as you do now, then I can tell you that the power demand will go up also. I understand that almost every other week more knowledge is added which throws out of the window existing practices, that will always be a fact of life. I do hope that you are able to develop your husbandry as you intimate, and I guess time will tell how successful you are. Advice is always offered and sometimes easier half way house solutions work well and can be discussed on the FB pages. This video is all about Frans addition to our keeping, and I don't intend to hijack it any further.
I have and always have had a 4 light set up for my uro. Saying that no one has that set up is strange. I learned this when I was first setting him up a few years ago through a Facebook group…
Having trouble adding metal halides due to intensity/shadows from other fixtures/etc. Am i missing something important by having only halogens + t5UVB + jungle dawn led?
Nope! If you have a T5, jungle Dawn, And a halogen bulb you will have full spectrum light
@@AnimalsatHomePodcast what would you say about the difference width of beams that a halogen provides vs a floodlight BR incandescent bulb though?
@@andreag9762 I'd say they are similiar but It really depends as halogens come in various sizes as well.
@@AnimalsatHomePodcast talking about the types of halogen like MR, BR, PAR ?
i have a crested gecko and i'm really curious, he mentioned he created a dappling effevt, i've been trying to find it, could someone point out to me what video he talks about it, i'd love to set something like that up.
Here you go (i’ve time stamped it for you): th-cam.com/video/TTG08Y9rBuU/w-d-xo.html
@@AnimalsatHomePodcast thank you so much!
@@AnimalsatHomePodcast ohhh I thought you added something to the lights I didnt realize you were just talking about the leaves X3 my bad
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This was awesome talk … Thanks
Thanks for watching, Jaime!
I'm watching now but are there any tips on lighting regarding amelanistic/albino animals? I don't want to bake/blind my albino cornsnake.
It sounds like they may just be able to self regulate?
Yep, set up the lighting as usual but just ensure there is plenty of shade available
Can someone give me a brand or type of patioheater that provides IR A and B for a large enclusure (like the one in this video)
Thanks in advance
I think really any "patio heater" would work. But again, these are for large enclosures, they throw off a ton of heat.
@@AnimalsatHomePodcast
I have a large enclosure for my asian water monitor, 4x2x2 meters
But i want to know if every infrared patio heater produces IR A or B?
Only "sauna/wellness resorts" use the terms of Full spectrum infrared. Patio heaters dont mention anything accept that it keeps you warm outside.
So to cut to the chase, every infrared light produces IR a and B?
Sounds like an amazing enclosure! Now that I think about it, most patio heaters are carbon filament which means they will be most giving off IRB and a little bit of IRA. Tungsten filament lamps produce most IRA... I'm not sure if they make patio heaters with tungsten though. It's possible they use the patio heaters in zoos to maintain background heat but supplement IRA with Halogen basking bulbs. Are you on Facebook? This would would a great question for the Reptile Lighting group, Roman Muryn will likely have an answer for you.
@@AnimalsatHomePodcast sorry i dont have facebook.
At this point i have 4 daylight LED strips and a 3 point basking spot
So im now at the point of will i go for a "spa/wellness" infrared full spectrum IR heater and at the basking spot a uvb bulb and 2 basking spots or just a infrared panel (IRC?) And use a deep heat projector, a uvb bulb and a basking spot. What do you think is best?
I think the first option would be better!
Is it preferable then to gradually introduce light to baby snakes who have been used to dark tubs?
That’s a good question… I think what I would do is provide the normal amount of light, but I provide plenty of very dark shade
Thanks. Makes sense. Very little info out there about dealing with babies from breeders who have never had light or activity. Some just settle right away but some clearly struggle to transition. It'a almost an area keepers are expected to learn from experience and after the fact.(which could end badly). I feel info about habituating baby animals should be more readily available.
th-cam.com/video/lh5sFzQ-5y8/w-d-xo.html
Which shelving system do you use? I have a few exo terras and want them off the floor!
I just picked this shelf up from Home Depot: www.homedepot.ca/product/husky-3-shelf-welded-steel-garage-storage-shelving-unit-with-wire-deck-in-black/1001344072
@@AnimalsatHomePodcast thank you so much! Were you able to/did you need to adjust the spacing between the shelves?
Yep, you can place the shelves wherever you need them!
@@AnimalsatHomePodcast one more question if you don’t mind! The rack you’re using is 24inches wide/deep, are your enclosures 24 wide as well? Wondering if mine would fit safely/comfortably on there
Yep! The black PVC one is 24” wide and it fits perfect on the 24” deep shelves
oh man this is confusing i just bought all arcadia deep heat projectors for my setups and now find out that halogen bulbs would have been better, this is getting expensive haha
Haha yeah I know! It is far from a simple topic. But yes, halogens are far better for day time basking. However, you can buy a halogen bulb from the hardware store for relatively cheap (if you can find one)
The dhp could be used for temp control at night then! Win win!
Hi there. just giving this a 16th listen. Don't mind me!
😎😎 haha! enjoy!
This is an awful long video just to say "Yes." 😎
😂😂 that would’ve saved me about eight hours of editing too
44:14 human light