Chlorine changes effecting my KOI Pond 💦⚠️🧐
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 14 ต.ค. 2024
- As we all know Chlorine and Chlorine can be devastating to our beloved koi fish, but have our old tools for declorinating become over powered? Has our water treatment been changed recently, can we adapt to help the koi.
I missed a lot and took too long to get to the route of this issue, so i share my honest insight into my koi keeping journey and the mistakes I have made while keeping koi.
There is some gold in this episode as nothing ever stays the same, so Id get what I got so you can check if it happening to you too.
Keeping koi is not easy and everyday we ave to keep learning and adpating.
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I use both the three stage and the larger size (500,000 litre) Evolution Aqua. The three stage is only a trickle top-up for the water lost in cleaning the Oase drum filter (about 15 L per hour) at it's max rate of 1 litre per minute. The Evo is used every other day for replaceing water loss from flushing to waste from the bottom drains, as it has a 4 litres per minute rate. I've had the Evo 2 years now, and it still has about 50% of recommended life left.
Brilliant mate I like your thinking. Tbh I have implemented this a bit as I just dropped nexus and I’m running about 0.5l per min through both 3 stage and aqua source 🙏 chlorine in ponds isn’t fun. Cheers mate and thanks for watching
Big blue will sort it, although will need to reduce the flow depending on your water pressure
I hear good things about BB, and yep reduced flow 100% cheers mate
Nice vid Johnny and glad for once you have a successful outcome. I use a 3 stage for topping up after filter clean but if a big change I use sodium thiosulphate, far cheaper than buying off the shelf stuff.
On another point I’ve had an ongoing issue with my bekko. Its pecks and back after its dorsal have been very red. Tried most things but unsuccessfull. Then thinking of what else could be in the pond it occurred to me we have had more rain than normal. Not knowing what comes down from the sky I decided to try Pond Detox by Lincs Fish Health and after a couple of treatments it’s starting to clear up! Have to say only the Bekko was affected but certainly it seems to be working.
Hi pal thanks for the comment mate and super interesting to hear about you koi pond water and your success with the bekko, well done pal
hi just getting the word out , watch out for phosphates in the tap water , i have noticed they are high lately.
Cheers Tom mate I need to check them tbh there seems to be a few changes to our water 💦 thanks pal
Get a whole home carbon tank to run all your water though, Bakki shower might help also for your entire pond
Hi mate, thanks 100% thinking Bakki shower, I just dont know when. So interesting to hear about carbon tank
Great vid. Thanks for the mention. Good move with the testing and reacting with positive results. Everyday is a school day.. I have a tester on it's way to see what I'm getting from my tap...😉👍
Hey Andy thanks for watching mate and 100% everyday is school day. I know your testing everything so Im watching 👀 Thanks for watching pal
Good video as always. Just wondering if the normal off the shelf de chlorination stuff still works the same? Just about to fill my new pond and move fish over from old pond but not going to put them in straight away knowing this lol. Also the clorine in the pond must be effecting the filter bacteria in some way . Iv seen others with high nitrite and this could be why.
Hi pal, Im no expert in this area of chlorine and there is better people than me to ask. But I would fill it super slow and then treat when full and no koi with sodium thisolthate and then check with DPD tablets etc. Good luck mate
Worth looking into the quality of the cartridges you have been using. A good starting point can be to look at Discus retailers or specialist water treatment retailers websites for advice on the best cartridges to use.
Some cartridges become exhausted really quickly, or are just ineffective .
As mentioned In other comments flow rate is really important, worth experimenting to find the most effective rate. Also run a good few litres to waste from the unit before adding to the pond (essentially flush it out before using)
KH is also all over the place in tap water, worth keeping an eye on that and buffering your water as necessary.
Other alternative would be RO, however this can be costly and can waste a lot of water.
Keep plugging away, you have a nice set up, stability and a hands-off approach is the key IMO.
Mate love this message. Yeah I agree with hands off message mate and been adapting my approach over the last few months with good results, so video will be coming soon.
Also I top up slowly now like 0.5l per min as no need to rush. Thanks for advice, guidance and support mate
Another Great video. I’m in the states and my water company mucks around with the water too. It would be great if they could let all their customers know when they plan to add crap to the water. I’ve decided to just use liquid water treatment/conditioner every time I do a water change. That way I don’t have to wonder.
Hi mate good to hear about the states pal. Also great to hear about your approach it keeping the water safe.
Excellent Johnny, glad you noticed, and looked in to the water supply issues…
Glad you got that sorted out… 👏 👏 👏 👍🏼
I had to deal with that too just before Christmas. Got a big blue for the chlorine etc and also a 3 stage with bone char for metals etc. from Andy Finch…. 👍🏼
Hi Andy mate, thank you so much mate and Im happy to have got through this too. Your about the 10th person to mention Andy about this, TBH you have mentioned him before TBF. I will ave a gander at some point mate and defo worth a call. Cheers mate
@@koifishjohnny Hey Johnny, yes mate 👍🏼, I defo mentioned him before and is defo worth a call. 😊👌🏼👍🏼
@@AndysKoiPuddle TBH Andy after your comment I actually watched a video with him by his Pond talking about filteration. I found it/ him super interesting and he mentioned 12 types of carbon 🧐 Cheers pal
@@koifishjohnny Yes mate, he will look at your local water reports for the last 12 months and he will advise you from there. 👍🏼
@@AndysKoiPuddle wow really that would be awesome. I will pop him a message on FB as thats all I can see to get hold of him
The 3 stage dechlorinator and the ea one will only work if you are tricking in not flat out from your hose
I’ve been having the same sort of problems but have been told to look at the metals in my water as these can also cause the problems which is looking like my problem with Thames water but different carbon is needed to treat these
Hi mate yeah seems to be quite a few struggling with chlorine in their koi ponds at minute. TBH Im have dramatically reduced flow now, like a trickly maybe 0.5l per min
@@koifishjohnny I’ve been told that the metals in my water could be my problem causing the bacterial infections just ordered a big blue with a separate filter filled with bone char carbon that removes metals
Have a chat with Andy finch finch filtration
@@steveg4315 Cheers matey, appreciate that and very interesting insight TBH, I dont know loads about the metals but will be interesting to read and learn more about this. I hear great things about Andy TBH
@@koifishjohnny have a chat with him if you give him your postcode and water company he will look over their water report
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@@steveg4315 Very cool mate, that would be super interesting
I'm 50 mins away from u n just use a hose pipe on spray mode high above the surface n u say dose the pond with sodium thiosulphate (this does drop kh so keep an eye in that too) happy koi no big blue. Water comes out the tap at 7 just a low kh of 2 to watch.
Small does of thio n bicarb does the job for me
Very interesting mate tbh I have never check my tap water ph so I might do it soon. I also didn’t know ST lowers KH very interesting. Cheers mate
company are clearly putting more into the systems before it come to our taps aswell as other bits aswell no doubt
I dont know mate but it looks like something different is happening. Thanks for watching mate
Water companies 'flush' the lines with a stronger solution every couple of months. You can get them to email you when its due. (If they are nice). You need to get a big blue dechlorinator mate fill it with activated carbon for chlorine and catalytic carbon for the chloramine and even bone char which lasts longer. Andy Finch from Finch Filtration will sort you out mate 👍
Yesssssss Bobby mateeeeee. Good to see your name pop up as I know you always have top info. Very interesting about the flush. Yeah I hear awesome things about BB and also Andy as a few people have mentioned him tbh and the people mentioning him know their stuff.
Super interesting about the carbon, some of it goes over my head at times. But tell you what super happy with new koi mate. Thanks for watching bobster 🙏
Hi Johnny,
Have you thought about getting a big blue that's what I did in the end because I had the same problem with Thames water a couple of years ago and since I have had a big blue I haven't had any further issues with my water mate.
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Hi mate, I hear great things about the BB but it seems a bit expensive so not at the minute mate. Great to hear its workign for you though mate and 100% worth considering
Johnny where are you based mate I'm have endless issues with mine and it sounds similar I'm in cadishead salford.
Hi pal, Im not far pretty much where East lanc meets the M6 so edge of wigan/ warrington
@@koifishjohnny try intra laboratories mate they have all chems like sodium thiosulfate ect loads cheaper and next day postage i think use bkks10 code for 10% off too.
Hi mate, I'm not one who's struggled with chlorine/chloramine. I stick it through the RMA and trust it works.
Also, do United Utilities have a website that showcases water testing values over different periods like ST?
It gives you something to compare against. Generally, a pond shoud easily be able to cope with a 10-20% top up from mains, such are the low levels of the stuff in our water.
Sodium Thiosulphate, on the face of it, seems to be a fantastic solution; however, it does produce ammonia during the chemical reaction with chlorine. All good if your filters are good. Not so good if you're at high pH and something has knocked your filter.
Super super interesting mate I did not know about sodium thisolarhate producing ammonia. Yeah it’s all interesting with the chlorine in our water for sure. 👌
How safe can the water be for us if it affects our fish so badly my water stinks like a swimming pool when it comes out the tap my fish have been jumping like crazy and I lost my favourite last week
Hi mate yeah seems to be quite a few struggling with chlorine in their koi ponds at minute, Im sorry to hear about your loss mate
I'd buy a Big Blue.
Fair call mate, I hear good things, just expensive