@@bestdayevermtb2 so I'm 80% keen to get a bike but what sort of maintenance do you need to do after a ride? or is it just a clean and plug the battery in? Cheers
@@Wafe_NZ In some ways yes. Saying that E bikes will cost money to maintain. They go through chains and cassettes faster. I clean and lube the chain after every ride. You will also need to service the suspension and seat post. That is true for ay mountain bike. It is not a cheap sport but still a lot cheaper than maintaining a motor cross bike or having a boat.
Awesome review. Nice that you were able to ride two trips without charging. IT WAS SUPER USEFUL TESTIMONY THAT IT CAB RIDE BATTERY DRAINED and be a more than passible bike to get back to home base.
Great review Lance, looks like a really solid option, lightweight alternative to the full fat. My Rail is a pig to ride with the motor off, and definitely some resistance over 32 kmh. 100% with you on the junction box indicator, perhaps Orbea could partner with Garmin and sell as a bundle
My KTM is no fun to ride without motor either. The funny thing is although I say the orbea rides similar to a normal bike without the motor on it still sucks. After riding an e bike a steam bike feels terrible to me.
Lance, really enjoyed this video. Nice, well rounded, Everyman review as always. Very impressed with the increase in production values and the multi angle shots worked really, really well. Excellent all round. I really look forward to my Saturday morning video watch. Cheers.
Thanks so much for that. Sadly some of the 3rd person shots were done by a professional with a huge flash camera. Gives me something to aim for. You should check out Bikelabs review of the same bike. They made their own video just using me. Looks way more professional.
A step up in production Lance, well done. The Rise was my first choice (with a Fox 36 and better tyres) but had to wait over 8 months for it to be in stock so the Levo SL was the go.
You were reviewing the 140/140 on the the Fox 34: but the next model up is the 140 / 150 with the fox 36 grip 2 even more capable turning into a very good all mountain " & from that model you can have a whole load of colours to choose on the " my custom " I took the 140/150 fox 36 grip 2:version out for Demo ; it's was magic ✨😎🌲🌲🚵🌲🌲🏞️👍👌
Hi Lance, a nice review, I ended up buying the M10 version of this bike, sold on the 60 nm, 18.5 kg, power to weight ratio. I'm well over 100 kg, I'm getting around 65km's in undulating hard pack terrain mainly on trail, a bit of eco and the odd pinch climb on turbo. Iv'e stepped up trail and boost power a notch . With lot's of climbing I''m getting around 35-40 km's over 2.5 hours which seems to be plenty of run time. I've also noted clipping the pedals on occassion and thinking that my fat arse coud do with a few spacers in the suspension. I've connected the bike to the iphone which helps with the inital ride anxiety and now just ride with it in my pocket, pulling it out 2.5 hours into my ride to see if I can get one more run in. I'm also not a fan of the colour.
Glad you are enjoying the bike. Certainly dropping down the power increases the range hugely. I must admit most of my rides are under 30km. I talk about long rides but we talk too much to get very far.
Great review Lance! I have ordered my M20 model from the new Queenstown distributer, will be here in September ish. I am selling me full fat emtb as i never get out of eco and sometimes trail. Everything from my YT Jeffsy is swapping straight over, so putting EXT coil and Lyric ultimate's 160 travel on the front. The way i see the rise as a true hybrid, emtb and analog in one. I have not been this excited about a bike for a long time. Thanks again for the great review Lance.
Hi Finn. You make a lot of sense. I must admit I liked the bike but would prefer more suspension and like your idea. Of course the bike would get heavier especially if you put bigger tires on it. I think this bike will suit a lot of people. A friend of mine said this is how we should have made e bikes from the start. He of course wanted more travel as well. I think mountain bikes are all about compromise which is why we have XC and DH bikes. Everyone wants something different.
@@bestdayevermtb2 cheers for the reply mate👍 By the time I have put my goochy bits on the Rise it should be about 17.5kg. I would have liked the E-Rallon but that is not happening for a while yet according to Orbea. Anyway been a fan of your channel for a while now and it’s awesome to see yourself and Dad’s army evolve 👌Keep up the good work champ 👊
@@bertfranqui7096 Hey Bert. So by putting a 160 travel Lyric on, i measured 64.8 head angle. I used a normal ext shock. I am now 3 rides in on my Rise and it has completely exceeded my expectations!
Hope you enjoyed Pirongia yesterday . I had to pick my GF up so missed out on a ride after the trail maintenance, but I’m looking forward to your thoughts on our tracks
Great video. Only comment is I think you're wrong around the weight. The 16.kg is for the m Ltd in medium. That's an m20 which is 18kg in medium and I guess you're on an extra large so closer to 18.5kg. That even the. You found it so light is more impressive.
Just checking comments on old videos and saw this one. Yes I was given some wrong info about weight from the distributor that morning we filmed. The bike did feel very light compared to my 24kg bike.
Awesome review... I did notice that your on a M20 which is 140/140 travel. I have a M10 Orbea Rise now for 3 months. Range certainly varies based on Elevation and weight. Certainly my favorite emtb after a dozen emtb's....🙃😉
I was told it was 140 150 but this may have been a mistake. I knew you could get both options. Certainly a cool bike. It wouldn't be one of my videos if it didn't have a few mistakes.
@@pizzagorgonzola I must admit I was unable to weigh the bike. I was told that the bike had been weighed that morning and came in at 16.5 kg. I had checked on line and the top of the range is advertised at 16.5kg but no numbers for other models. Like wise I knew they came as 150 or 140 but didn't know for sure which one this was. I went with the information I was given. Saying that the bike did feel very light and I don't think I have made a video yet without some mistakes, so I hope everyone can take it for what it is. One grumpy old mans opinion on an E bike.😁😁😁
awesome review! makes me even more excited for mine to arrive in a few weeks, i have to agree about the display, for what is an expensive bike, that thing kinda sucks. there is an option from orbea to put the e8000 display on though for around 200 pound if wanted but i suppose the idea was to keep it minimalistic!
I bet you can't wait. I must admit most of the displays are ugly and I like the minimal look. I am happy as long as I can tell how much battery I have and what setting I an in. Other data can be got off your phone. The Levo did this well.
@@bestdayevermtb2 thats true, i do think the levo/kenevo display on the latest models are much further ahead, but then i suppose theyre also a little more pricey now. thankfully i have Garmin watch anyway from year of riding my steam bke that is compatible so not much to worry about!
Nice i would really like to have a full suspension EMTB that feels like a normal trail bike,, but it doesn't look super nice but it doesn't have a bad look either..i would still switch my 95nm torque Turbo levo in it(even if the motor didn't always break) even my levo looks better.. it's just too heavy to ride when it's empty battery.. anyways they should make a phone app for it ,, that's the one thing that is really good with the levo that you can adjust all the levels and the acceleration,shuttle and track your rides etc..i Think maybe the ep8 is the Best EMTB motor at the moment
Good reviews, i must say though, i been riding my rise for 8 months (came from a full fat ebike), i dont miss the screen at all. I find it alot less distracting like it is so i wouldnt use a screen even if i got one for free.
I’ve got Levo SL expert carbon (and mulletted it) and it’s circa same weight (16.8kg) with fox 36 and despite being 35NM it’s awesome ! Prefer it to my Yeti peddle bike. Cheers
I may be able to review the kenevo sl soon. Excited about that one. Wasn't sure about the output of the motor. 35Nm is quite a bit less but I know many people find that OK.
@@bestdayevermtb2 I’m a follower and love your vids, as I’m a 50+ year old rider as well. cheers. There’s not that much difference I find between the SL and turbo if you are just having a few hours ride and my wife’s turbo only saves me 5 minutes to the top of the local trail. Peddle bike is 50min, SL is 20 min and Turbo Levo is 15 min, Keep up the great content mate.
HI. You can order Rise with Shimano display, if that is a break-dealer (when you order the bike) :-) . It turns to red light, when you have 10% battery left. Nice videos BTW.
@@bestdayevermtb2 not a deal breaker for me as well. If no other ebike company comes with a «better» option than Rise, for the next 6-12 month, Rise will be my next ebike. This bike covers the most type of riding alternatives. Keep up the good work 👍🚴♂️. Grettings from Norway 🇳🇴
@@bestdayevermtb2 we have plenty places you would love to ride, special bikeparks and mountains. If i should highligt two, it would be: pellestova.no/en/aktivitet/mountain-biking/ and: www.trysil.com/en. And also Hallingdal is starting to be a great cycling destination (www.rides.no). 👍🚵♀️
Would be good to directly compare them. I liked how the SL handled but I think the power was lower still. Saying that I wouldn't swap my KTM for the Rise. My KTM is 24 kg but is awesome for jumping. I don't mind the heavy bike but many people would prefer a light one.
did you download the shimano app? from what im seeing these bikes come set up to not give full power of 60nm until you go into the app and make adjustments.
No, I didn't download the app. I usually don't mess around too much with the bikes I have been leant. Saying that the power to weight ratio on this bike felt pretty good.
That is a great question and hadn't really thought about it. I think both are very similar. I do think both can be improved on and know doubt they will. Actually really interested to see the evolution of the e bike.
This or the wild fs? I heard the orbea rise has some rattling noise by the motor. I watched your wild fs review and you also enjoyed it. If you were to pick which will be your only ebike? Ty
This is just my personal opinion but I would choose the wild FS. Given a choice between a light weight bike and a longer travel bike with bigger battery and more powerful motor I would choose the later. I know from experience if you ride with a group of e bikers you don't want the smallest battery and motor especially if you are not the fittest. This is just my opinion and many people would legitimately choose the Rise. The only thing against the FS is the model hasn't been updated for awhile now. Not sure if they have a new one coming.
@@bestdayevermtb2 i think your reasoning about getting the longer and bigger battery is the right choice specially if its going to be the only emtb. I think it was 2020 when they released the FS and thats one of my main concern of getting specially now that bosch just released their gen 5 motor
@@regularMattMatt The reality is what ever you get you will have fun on it. If you wait for a new model it is going to be dearer than on older one assuming you can actually get your hands on a bike. Good luck.
What is your definition of average person. Average fitness, average skill, rides average length rides? I have ridden both bikes and both are great bikes. I think the Rise will actually suit a lot of average riders who just want to do trail rides without hitting up up big jumps. I meet lots of people who have full power e bikes but mostly ride in echo. A lighter bike with a bit less power would suit them well. My wife is very small. A full power e bike is half her weight. She struggles to handle this. A lighter bike with less suspension makes great sense for her.
You made two videos about his bike, and in both you lie about the weight of that bike, this bike is around 17.9 kilos. it’s not the LTD, it’s not even the team, and frankly it’s pretty obvious when you try to lift it, why do you do this ? it’s annoying, you clearly don’t care about being credible, you just want to sell bikes, but even then WHAT Does it cost you to saut hat only the LTD weighs under 17 kilos ??
Firstly I did not make two videos. The first video you saw was made by Bike Lab but used footage of me. This video was made by me and gives my opinion of the bike. The guy's from Bike lab brought the bike up to Woodhill for me to try out. I knew the top of the range came in at 16.5kg and asked them how much this one weighed. They said they weighed it at 16.5 kg. It felt very light so went with that information. I don't sell bikes and get no benefit if any of these bikes sell. I was not paid to make the video. I enjoy making videos as a hobby. This is not how I make a living. I am not a professional but do my best with my limited resources. I do object to being called a liar. I had the bike for a week and showed it to many people who of course picked it up. All of them were amazed at how light it was and not one person said. This bike is clearly heavier than 16.5kg.
Hey pizza dude. If you don't like the channel or content then don't watch it. If you watch enough of the videos on this channel it's pretty easy to figure out that lance is not a pro making a living from this but someone who brings an easy going level to the content he provides. Take from the info what you want but don't have a go because some of the stat's aren't 100%. Go do the research yourself if you think the figures aren't quite right. You'll find more real info and experience on this channel than any LBS will be able to provide you any day when it comes to ebikes.
Wife said today.... "Does this guy work or just ride bikes all day?"
So you can tell I've watched a few of.your videos and this is a great review!
Thanks very much. I wish I could ride bikes for a living but sadly not.
@@bestdayevermtb2 so I'm 80% keen to get a bike but what sort of maintenance do you need to do after a ride? or is it just a clean and plug the battery in?
Cheers
@@Wafe_NZ In some ways yes. Saying that E bikes will cost money to maintain. They go through chains and cassettes faster. I clean and lube the chain after every ride. You will also need to service the suspension and seat post. That is true for ay mountain bike. It is not a cheap sport but still a lot cheaper than maintaining a motor cross bike or having a boat.
I always run a Garmin 530, so I love the minimalistic look of the built in controls.
Awesome review. Nice that you were able to ride two trips without charging. IT WAS SUPER USEFUL TESTIMONY THAT IT CAB RIDE BATTERY DRAINED and be a more than passible bike to get back to home base.
Lance can get it with the e8000 display as an option when you order 👍🏻 I’m waiting for them to bring out a rallon e bike with the same set up
Thanks so much for a great review Lance. Looks like I will need to have “the talk” with the missus.
Always better to ask for forgiveness than permission.
@@bestdayevermtb2 umm that only works in a church setting, a frying pan to the head is un healthy
Great review Lance, looks like a really solid option, lightweight alternative to the full fat. My Rail is a pig to ride with the motor off, and definitely some resistance over 32 kmh. 100% with you on the junction box indicator, perhaps Orbea could partner with Garmin and sell as a bundle
My KTM is no fun to ride without motor either. The funny thing is although I say the orbea rides similar to a normal bike without the motor on it still sucks. After riding an e bike a steam bike feels terrible to me.
Or god forbid Apple, I love my Apple Watch for recording rides,sailing hiking on Strava and it takes calls,texts,apps
Great Quality Video Lance! love the cinematography.
Lance, really enjoyed this video. Nice, well rounded, Everyman review as always. Very impressed with the increase in production values and the multi angle shots worked really, really well. Excellent all round. I really look forward to my Saturday morning video watch. Cheers.
Thanks so much for that. Sadly some of the 3rd person shots were done by a professional with a huge flash camera. Gives me something to aim for. You should check out Bikelabs review of the same bike. They made their own video just using me. Looks way more professional.
@@bestdayevermtb2 mate, the bikelab’s video was great- you are rapidly becoming a star- all prop to ya matey.
A step up in production Lance, well done. The Rise was my first choice (with a Fox 36 and better tyres) but had to wait over 8 months for it to be in stock so the Levo SL was the go.
Yes the Rise would suit you well.
Same boat 10 month wait or two weeks with the Levo SL ......I now have a Levo SL in the shed
You were reviewing the 140/140 on the the Fox 34: but the next model up is the 140 / 150 with the fox 36 grip 2 even more capable turning into a very good all mountain " & from that model you can have a whole load of colours to choose on the " my custom " I took the 140/150 fox 36 grip 2:version out for Demo ; it's was magic ✨😎🌲🌲🚵🌲🌲🏞️👍👌
@@andrewgreenwood8727 I was told it was 140 150 but they could have been mistaken. I must admit I think I would prefer a set of 36s
@@craigpenglase5935 supply of bikes is a real issue. I would take what was available and start having fun.
Hi Lance, a nice review, I ended up buying the M10 version of this bike, sold on the 60 nm, 18.5 kg, power to weight ratio. I'm well over 100 kg, I'm getting around 65km's in undulating hard pack terrain mainly on trail, a bit of eco and the odd pinch climb on turbo. Iv'e stepped up trail and boost power a notch . With lot's of climbing I''m getting around 35-40 km's over 2.5 hours which seems to be plenty of run time. I've also noted clipping the pedals on occassion and thinking that my fat arse coud do with a few spacers in the suspension. I've connected the bike to the iphone which helps with the inital ride anxiety and now just ride with it in my pocket, pulling it out 2.5 hours into my ride to see if I can get one more run in. I'm also not a fan of the colour.
Glad you are enjoying the bike. Certainly dropping down the power increases the range hugely. I must admit most of my rides are under 30km. I talk about long rides but we talk too much to get very far.
Great review Lance! I have ordered my M20 model from the new Queenstown distributer, will be here in September ish. I am selling me full fat emtb as i never get out of eco and sometimes trail. Everything from my YT Jeffsy is swapping straight over, so putting EXT coil and Lyric ultimate's 160 travel on the front. The way i see the rise as a true hybrid, emtb and analog in one. I have not been this excited about a bike for a long time. Thanks again for the great review Lance.
Hi Finn. You make a lot of sense. I must admit I liked the bike but would prefer more suspension and like your idea. Of course the bike would get heavier especially if you put bigger tires on it. I think this bike will suit a lot of people. A friend of mine said this is how we should have made e bikes from the start. He of course wanted more travel as well. I think mountain bikes are all about compromise which is why we have XC and DH bikes. Everyone wants something different.
@@bestdayevermtb2 cheers for the reply mate👍 By the time I have put my goochy bits on the Rise it should be about 17.5kg. I would have liked the E-Rallon but that is not happening for a while yet according to Orbea. Anyway been a fan of your channel for a while now and it’s awesome to see yourself and Dad’s army evolve 👌Keep up the good work champ 👊
hi Finn the fork rake you put is what angle? and the ERA ext is that ebike version or the normal one thanks at forward.
@@bertfranqui7096 Hey Bert. So by putting a 160 travel Lyric on, i measured 64.8 head angle. I used a normal ext shock. I am now 3 rides in on my Rise and it has completely exceeded my expectations!
Great review Lance. Very interested in this bike so really enjoyed your real world assessment. Still struggling with those pants but! 🤭
I have always been a bit different and many people think I have no taste. The great thing
about being in my 50s is I no longer care.
Nice drone footage and 3rd person shots, videos are definitely more professional now.
Must admit some of the 3rd person shots were taken by Bike lab with a flash as camera.
@@bestdayevermtb2 they looked great
Hope you enjoyed Pirongia yesterday . I had to pick my GF up so missed out on a ride after the trail maintenance, but I’m looking forward to your thoughts on our tracks
I absolutely loved it. The grip was good the tracks were fun and Josh was a great host. I am definitely coming back.
Thanks for the review Lance! Test riding a medium frame in two days : )
I am sure you will like it.
Great video. Only comment is I think you're wrong around the weight. The 16.kg is for the m Ltd in medium. That's an m20 which is 18kg in medium and I guess you're on an extra large so closer to 18.5kg. That even the. You found it so light is more impressive.
Just checking comments on old videos and saw this one. Yes I was given some wrong info about weight from the distributor that morning we filmed. The bike did feel very light compared to my 24kg bike.
Awesome review... I did notice that your on a M20 which is 140/140 travel. I have a M10 Orbea Rise now for 3 months. Range certainly varies based on Elevation and weight. Certainly my favorite emtb after a dozen emtb's....🙃😉
I was told it was 140 150 but this may have been a mistake. I knew you could get both options. Certainly a cool bike. It wouldn't be one of my videos if it didn't have a few mistakes.
@@bestdayevermtb2
When are you next in Taupo.. The crew down here are keen to show you around. NOT the C Line...🙃😉
@@claytonprice7833 Really not sure. Have actually been very busy with work lately so hardly been riding. Hopefully in the summer.
Yeah and it isn’t even CLOSE to 16.5 kilos !!!!! The m20 is over two,kilos heavier
@@pizzagorgonzola I must admit I was unable to weigh the bike. I was told that the bike had been weighed that morning and came in at 16.5 kg. I had checked on line and the top of the range is advertised at 16.5kg but no numbers for other models. Like wise I knew they came as 150 or 140 but didn't know for sure which one this was. I went with the information I was given. Saying that the bike did feel very light and I don't think I have made a video yet without some mistakes, so I hope everyone can take it for what it is. One grumpy old mans opinion on an E bike.😁😁😁
awesome review! makes me even more excited for mine to arrive in a few weeks, i have to agree about the display, for what is an expensive bike, that thing kinda sucks. there is an option from orbea to put the e8000 display on though for around 200 pound if wanted but i suppose the idea was to keep it minimalistic!
I bet you can't wait. I must admit most of the displays are ugly and I like the minimal look. I am happy as long as I can tell how much battery I have and what setting I an in. Other data can be got off your phone. The Levo did this well.
@@bestdayevermtb2 thats true, i do think the levo/kenevo display on the latest models are much further ahead, but then i suppose theyre also a little more pricey now. thankfully i have Garmin watch anyway from year of riding my steam bke that is compatible so not much to worry about!
Great bike, fantastic review as always 👍👍
Your filming filming skills have improved a lot
Thanks. Must admit some of the shots I did not film.
Nice i would really like to have a full suspension EMTB that feels like a normal trail bike,, but it doesn't look super nice but it doesn't have a bad look either..i would still switch my 95nm torque Turbo levo in it(even if the motor didn't always break) even my levo looks better.. it's just too heavy to ride when it's empty battery.. anyways they should make a phone app for it ,, that's the one thing that is really good with the levo that you can adjust all the levels and the acceleration,shuttle and track your rides etc..i Think maybe the ep8 is the Best EMTB motor at the moment
That's the problem, Brose motors are unreliable. Wild FS with Bosch for me, not worried about a minor weight penalty
Great real world test, thanks. I'd love one of these but I'd need to sell my e-bike and trail bike to justify it (financially)...
Good reviews, i must say though, i been riding my rise for 8 months (came from a full fat ebike), i dont miss the screen at all. I find it alot less distracting like it is so i wouldnt use a screen even if i got one for free.
I’ve got Levo SL expert carbon (and mulletted it) and it’s circa same weight (16.8kg) with fox 36 and despite being 35NM it’s awesome !
Prefer it to my Yeti peddle bike.
Cheers
I may be able to review the kenevo sl soon. Excited about that one. Wasn't sure about the output of the motor. 35Nm is quite a bit less but I know many people find that OK.
@@bestdayevermtb2 I’m a follower and love your vids, as I’m a 50+ year old rider as well. cheers.
There’s not that much difference I find between the SL and turbo if you are just having a few hours ride and my wife’s turbo only saves me 5 minutes to the top of the local trail. Peddle bike is 50min, SL is 20 min and Turbo Levo is 15 min,
Keep up the great content mate.
@@apoffs thanks so much for the support. We all love our e bikes and that is what it is all about.
@MrRadar45 I think a big factor in what e bike to choose is what can you actually get you hands on. They are all great fun.
HI. You can order Rise with Shimano display, if that is a break-dealer (when you order the bike) :-) . It turns to red light, when you have 10% battery left. Nice videos BTW.
It wouldn't be a deal breaker for me but would look at a garmin watch rather than the shimano display.
@@bestdayevermtb2 not a deal breaker for me as well. If no other ebike company comes with a «better» option than Rise, for the next 6-12 month, Rise will be my next ebike. This bike covers the most type of riding alternatives. Keep up the good work 👍🚴♂️. Grettings from Norway 🇳🇴
@@ekluften Thanks Erik. What is the riding like in Norway? Really want to go back to Europe when Covid allows.
@@bestdayevermtb2 we have plenty places you would love to ride, special bikeparks and mountains. If i should highligt two, it would be: pellestova.no/en/aktivitet/mountain-biking/ and: www.trysil.com/en. And also Hallingdal is starting to be a great cycling destination (www.rides.no). 👍🚵♀️
Awesome Bike. Epic
That's not 16.5 kg, the Ltd model comes with Factory spec and soecced for weight saving, that looks like the M20 which comes in around 19kg
great review, im getting this bike after christmas, also what helmet are you wearing?
It is a fun bike to ride. You will enjoy it. Here is a link to the helmet. th-cam.com/video/9cp1QrIOkwI/w-d-xo.html
Only a few kgs heavier than my steam powered bike, pretty impressive.
It felt similar to a steam bike .
Haha. I love the color. Great review !
Geez how many camera crew at work today mate? Came across very professional. Would have cost a few red bulls I’m sure
I had the help of a professional camera guy for some of the shots as they made their own video. The sad part is my next video will look crap again.
Interestingly you weren’t so keen on the Levo SL. Perhaps a comparison.
Would be good to directly compare them. I liked how the SL handled but I think the power was lower still. Saying that I wouldn't swap my KTM for the Rise. My KTM is 24 kg but is awesome for jumping. I don't mind the heavy bike but many people would prefer a light one.
Hi Lance, great review mate....
Thanks very much.
Great review. Thank you.
did you download the shimano app? from what im seeing these bikes come set up to not give full power of 60nm until you go into the app and make adjustments.
No, I didn't download the app. I usually don't mess around too much with the bikes I have been leant. Saying that the power to weight ratio on this bike felt pretty good.
Great video. Love the review.
Ebikers logic: flat battery = walk back
I pedalled a flat ebike 6ks home. 23Kg. Hard but not impossible
Thanks for the detailed review.
What drone do you use?
I have the skydio2.
Thx for your nice review! What size did you ride and how tall are you/what is you inseam? Thx again!
I am 176cm tall and rode a large. Felt very good. My inseam is 78cm although these days it is all about reach. I like a reach of 450 to 470 generally.
Great review!
For 2021 you will choose EP8 vs Bosch GEN4?
That is a great question and hadn't really thought about it. I think both are very similar. I do think both can be improved on and know doubt they will. Actually really interested to see the evolution of the e bike.
you say you don't like the color, but don't mention you can get it in almost any color ?
This or the wild fs? I heard the orbea rise has some rattling noise by the motor.
I watched your wild fs review and you also enjoyed it. If you were to pick which will be your only ebike? Ty
This is just my personal opinion but I would choose the wild FS. Given a choice between a light weight bike and a longer travel bike with bigger battery and more powerful motor I would choose the later. I know from experience if you ride with a group of e bikers you don't want the smallest battery and motor especially if you are not the fittest. This is just my opinion and many people would legitimately choose the Rise. The only thing against the FS is the model hasn't been updated for awhile now. Not sure if they have a new one coming.
@@bestdayevermtb2 i think your reasoning about getting the longer and bigger battery is the right choice specially if its going to be the only emtb. I think it was 2020 when they released the FS and thats one of my main concern of getting specially now that bosch just released their gen 5 motor
@@regularMattMatt The reality is what ever you get you will have fun on it. If you wait for a new model it is going to be dearer than on older one assuming you can actually get your hands on a bike. Good luck.
Lol think that bike is light enough to pedal home without suffering from FBS(flat battery syndrome)
How much retail cost on this bike.?
I believe $12500
The pizza dude is bringing me down
Any Garmin watch can connect your bike or had to be certain type ?
I think any one but not 100% sure.
Next up: Lance does the Whaka 100 on an ebike.
That sounds like hard work.
Are you wearing jodhpurs
They are downhill pants. Just trying them out. They are awesome to ride in.
where were you riding mate?
Just at Woodhill.
@@bestdayevermtb2 must get up to Auckland! Looks fun.
Average person will be better off with Wild FS (carbon)
What is your definition of average person. Average fitness, average skill, rides average length rides? I have ridden both bikes and both are great bikes. I think the Rise will actually suit a lot of average riders who just want to do trail rides without hitting up up big jumps. I meet lots of people who have full power e bikes but mostly ride in echo. A lighter bike with a bit less power would suit them well. My wife is very small. A full power e bike is half her weight. She struggles to handle this. A lighter bike with less suspension makes great sense for her.
I was thinking average skill level (male) rider where the weight difference isn't going to be that noticeable assuming they weigh at least 175 lbs
You made two videos about his bike, and in both you lie about the weight of that bike, this bike is around 17.9 kilos. it’s not the LTD, it’s not even the team, and frankly it’s pretty obvious when you try to lift it, why do you do this ? it’s annoying, you clearly don’t care about being credible, you just want to sell bikes, but even then WHAT Does it cost you to saut hat only the LTD weighs under 17 kilos ??
Firstly I did not make two videos. The first video you saw was made by Bike Lab but used footage of me. This video was made by me and gives my opinion of the bike. The guy's from Bike lab brought the bike up to Woodhill for me to try out. I knew the top of the range came in at 16.5kg and asked them how much this one weighed. They said they weighed it at 16.5 kg. It felt very light so went with that information. I don't sell bikes and get no benefit if any of these bikes sell. I was not paid to make the video. I enjoy making videos as a hobby. This is not how I make a living. I am not a professional but do my best with my limited resources. I do object to being called a liar. I had the bike for a week and showed it to many people who of course picked it up. All of them were amazed at how light it was and not one person said. This bike is clearly heavier than 16.5kg.
@@bestdayevermtb2 its 19 kilos !!!! for god sake !! do you research !!
@@bestdayevermtb2 well bike lab sells bikes, and that is where i saw you first, saying the same BS
Jesus relax fella !
Hey pizza dude. If you don't like the channel or content then don't watch it. If you watch enough of the videos on this channel it's pretty easy to figure out that lance is not a pro making a living from this but someone who brings an easy going level to the content he provides. Take from the info what you want but don't have a go because some of the stat's aren't 100%. Go do the research yourself if you think the figures aren't quite right. You'll find more real info and experience on this channel than any LBS will be able to provide you any day when it comes to ebikes.