V8 Touareg Timing Chain Tensioner Failure Diagnosing
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 24 ก.ย. 2019
- We diagnose our cheap project Touareg. When we purchased this 4.2L V8, it had timing faults and misfires. From our experience, we went into this with the expectation that it had a bad cam timing chain adjuster on bank 1. In this video, we cover the complete diagnostic process for a bad cam chain adjuster for a V8 Touareg. Follow along while we show you that process and find out some bad news at the end!
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It's pretty cool you guys are giving this touareg another opportunity. A lot of people would junk the car. I almost did when my transmission went out. I love my touareg and options it has so I decided to keep and fix it.
They should have because they're trash money pits as they age! Clearly very cheaply made VAG product.
@@jordanrussell345 V6 TDI is the best. V10 is a spaceship.
@@dragospahontu v8 is the sweetspot
@@Dickusification but maybe not the most reliable.
Good Vid. As a former Audi/VW tech myself, my two cents..., I would have heavily leaned towards bent valves myself without even swapping coils BEFORE any engine teardown..... As a another person commented, with the cams out, a leak down check regardless of piston position would have told you everything you needed to know. Even without a leak down gauge set, could have just jamed a rag and air nozzle into the open spark plug hole and heard the air rushing into the intake manifold and likely out the exhaust too through one or more overlapped open valves on other cylinders. Also, just to remember old school basics, a 12 dollar vacuum gauge hooked to any straight intake vacuum source would have 99% confirmed bent valves as with two dead holes, you would have had severe intake vacuum fluctuation. Your vacuum gauge needle would have been jumping like a jack hammer.
Anywho, a few other quick easy checks that are irrelevent really. Again, just my 2 cents. My approach would have had zero content toward an informative video useful to many folks out there....LOL, my video would have just been me in front of a camera for 15 seonds sayin, "My four toooo's T-Rex nedds a top end rebuild, hope she didn't pop her cookies out the bottom too. Son of a diddly!!!"
AVE! Is that you?
@@realname2404 LOL. Nah I'm not AVE, but I consider uncle bumblefvck to be a wise man ;)
Colin Wie what's up? Well you know since I became a woodworker that can't seem to make anything cheap enough for people..I have come to realize that corners have to be cut somewhere if normal poor folk are to afford what seems like a nice car. And you have to decide what is your non-negotiable!! Cars seemed to hit the apex in durability and value during the 80's and 90's but now car-makers are going off in so many directions its a wonder that cars are still somewhat affordable at all
AVE owning a VW?! I doubt it. Lol
Really like this style of detailed hands-on video!
Btw, on engines with hydraulic lifters, if the valves get damaged, the lifters will sink a bit. So the cam lobes no longer touch the lifters on the affected valves. You can see light between the lifter and the cam. This is almost 100% always the case and can tell you right away what you're dealing with.
Good tip / info! =)
@@EXOVCDS It sounded rattly when he fired it up.
@@graemewilliams1308 Yup.
@@graemewilliams1308 ye
I love these "bought the cheapest (insert name of car here)" TH-cam series's!
My dad has a 2004 Touareg V8 with air suspension that is at 249k miles. Absolutely amazing car! The alternator finally died and we decided to tow it home and throw it up on Craigslist. So far, no serious takers :(
i have an 04 air ride with lockers its a beast off road cause its so heave and a true 4x4 with it all locked up.
Doing all the mistakes I have done in the past. Doing the right test in the wrong order and doing work twice. I always spend more money than I am trying to save. The old saying in the business is "saving money rarely does". This was very entertaining keep them coming!👍
I like that you get technical with the engine unlike TFL. Keep the videos coming!
It's a Touareg... it's always worse than you think
Chris Rodriguez 😂😂
My V10 Touareg was the best car I’ve ever owner, better than my BMW X6M and better than my current AMG Merc.
@@Coaster2024 So you are comparing a pice of shit with other pice os shit. Way to go!
Touareg 2008 v8 owner here. Own this for 11 years now. 190k miles still running . Haven't did anything to this car but regular maintenance. Knock on wood ..This thing a beast.
@@elgransr you’re just jealous you can’t afford buy those SUV
Man, that's a bummer. But hey, I'm happy your still showing when things don't go your way. It's one of those "you win some, you loose some" situations really. Damn interference engines!
Nicely made episode. You may be lucky and find it will be ok just with new valves. Funny, as we all drive diesels in Europe, I forgot VW even made a petrol version!
anything used is always a gamble in more ways than one but its only metal and replaceable parts. Keep on keepin' on!
Skip to 15:30
lmaoooooo
First generation Volkswagen Touareg has so many birth defects since very beginning but they have place to be. Generally nice vehicle for someone who enjoys to work on them. BZW, thatk for detailed interesting educational video. I watched to the end while making my supper. Cheers.
I think people are taking this project to literal. Some of the viewers think it is not worth the effort.
They bought it primarily so that they could build some cool content and that later they can use if for towing or smth.
I would pay for the footage of it being driven like they drive mk7. Once it's built, put a trailer on it with mk7 in it and drive it on some hill with the pedal to the floor so that we can see what it was really built for :)
sweet, interesting to see some other VAG cars for a change, if you reading this please consider shipping to South Africa :-D
If you suspect valve damage and you have the cams out, the valve buckets on the bent ones should be sitting lower than the non bent ones since they are stuck open.
Also, with the cams out, all of the valves should be shut, so you can pull the spark plugs and run a leak down test easily at this point to further narrow the issues.
Love the beeps. Your pretty funny!
ENDLESS MONEY PIT. THANK YOU SCOTTY!!!
TDI is reliable
i have one of these and you could have checked valve stem height when you took the cams out to verify a bent valve..
Would have saved a lot of diagnostic time with cams out doing a leak down on tdc or btdc and using a inspection camera thru spark plug holes also remove valve hydraulic lifters and inspect valve seating
Yeah pulling compression would have told you you need to do an exploratory walw about under the head before adding a bunch of parts and labor.
I think we can all admit that it's easy to fall into this trap: "I think (hope) I know what the problem is" before actually exhausting all troubleshooting possibilities. It's wishful thinking because replacing that part vs. pulling the head, replacing valves, and possibly having a damaged piston or two, is our worst nightmare! I'll say, I'm guilty of doing that so I'm not pointing fingers! Great quality video and always enjoy quarterbacking from the cheap seats! :) Really enjoy the channel.
@@drod6424 it's not wishful thinking,its called diagnostic steps if you did compression test on that bank1 and it's low on a cylinder then you know it something internal,so why waist time doing the cam adjuster.
@@kaydan9906 Because if the cam is out of adjustment, it would not have compression either? since valves are open in the wrong timing. So he adjusted the cam and then tested compression i guess.
kaydan9906 actually my “quote” mindset is wishful thinking.
I know nothing about cars,but i like this video.Now i know what not to buy. :)
VW: When ten cents of plastic breaks, your $10,000 engine breaks. Is there a service interval for chain tensions?
Nope
Deutsche Auto Parts There should be an interval I would think. How much is the part?
reminds me of when my 1.8t broke the timing belt drive pulley. I was so confused why I was getting the code camshaft position implausible and I thought it would be that vvt tensioner on this video but no... A new crankshaftm, aftermarket forged pulley and fluidampr and so many single use bolts and its better again.
I almost bought a toureg v10 diesel, but after research I opted out of that purchase. Money pit! They look good but.....
grumerguy damn I didn’t know they had them in V10. That’s crazy. But yeah unreliable as far as my research goes. Think I’ll stick with my mk7 Gti..
still want a decent truck though
Michael Me too and I love Golfs. How is yours doing? I think Honda Ridgeline and Toyotas can be good. I wish something cheaper and lower was available. I don't need crazy off-road capability
James Medina yeah I was looking at the Toyota Tacoma but they’re so expensive. 😅
My GTI is doing well! Pretty solid I’d say I haven’t had any major issues or really at all for that matter and I’m at 70k miles now. I’ve changed the oil every 5-6k miles and trans every 30k. I did have one issue where I over filled the gas tank and it flooded the charcoal canister but that wasn’t too bad to repair. Upgrading the brake and rotors this weekend. Want to do more but I’m still under warranty for another 20k miles or so 😅
How is your golf James?
Michael Hey. Will you just go stock on the brakes? I am a believer in Pagid German brake pads and Motul brake fluid. I owned 3 Passats all in a row, two with VR6 motors and last with 1.8t, the last one I got it new in 2000 and sold it 2014 or so. I tried to get out of my Passat and into GTI in 2008 but I could not go up in payments and was upset my Passat had lost almost all its value. It was crazy and I really REALLY wanted that GTI. Then I tried two years ago but was unlucky in buying one year used one and I tried to buy a Golf Diesel TDI but another customer beat me out. So I took a step down in comfort and the power department & drive a new Civic now, unfortunately not the Type R. So, I still wish I had my GTI. A friend of mine owns a VW dealership so if I really wanted one I reckon i could do it. But, I keep asking people like you because of service experience, carbon build-up(intake), and depreciation after 5-6 years.🤔
Michael My buddy loves his Tacoma and another friend of mine his Titan. Whenever I ride in the former's Tacoma I dislike the ride in town while I like his dad's Tundra. The prices between the two are not that different. If I got a truck I would probably buy used just for the occasional utility.
So curious question. Could you go more into detail onto why you can not do a compression test on the engine before replacing the tensioner?
Perfect example of why I call BS when people say this 4.2 is more reliable than the other. They're all equally worthless.
3.0 TDI V6 is the best engine for this car
You're wrong 100%. The V6 30 valve and the V8 in this video are actually VERY reliable engines. Those plastic chain guides are common failure on many engines from different manufacturers, plastic gets hard and brittle with time and heat cycles. The previous owner of that Tuareg kept driving the car without the guides, you can't expect engine to last very long under those conditions.
Also if you did synthetic oil changes every 5-6k they tend to last a little while long longer.
@@x-man4702 can’t speak for the V6, but the V8 in mine has been very problematic. The block itself is fine, but I’ve spent thousands of dollars to keep it running. Leaks galore, went through a few water pumps and thermostats (timing belt has to come off), tons of issues with the PCV valve and throttle body, and frequent issues with the swirl flap actuators. The engine itself is fine, but everything connected to it is terrible
@@ogalief
Incompetent mechanics/shops are MANY times the culprits. European cars are very specific when comes to repairs and maintenance.
Hey great video. Do you have available a video for changing the timing belt?
Thumbs up! btw any updates what you decided to do with the engine?
Push it outside and set it on fire.
Best advice
VölligWertlos
I say take off and nuke it from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.
made my morning lol.
Had the same thing on my 04 V8 - sadly 4 valves bent....$3,800 later it’s back. And now only a few months later after it needs a new motor due to piston slap
Hello, i have issues to read my Touareg 2004 V8 , with any diagnostic tool (shop tool), always, came back a message to check if key is ignition on, wich is, any guide on what to check. already look for fuse, all ok.
All this knowledge, time and skills amazing! I think I would go for Tesla.
Finally someone realistic. Removing half of the car for a stupid thing
Check out rich ribuilds, he shows how much stuff fails on a tesla. They are great, not perfect.
This vehicle is awesome, I loved mine - but honestly it's only a good car for mechanics.
Hi I have the camshaft position sensor range performance code any idea where to start to fix it I have replaced the cam sensor but it code has stayed my chains and all that seem to be fine engine seems to only be rough on code start but settles after 3min max ?
Any update on the Touareg, which way did you go?
When performing a compression test on the V8 touareg 7L this what is the normal compression range? Thanks
love my honda
Wheres the link to the special tool and timing bar you said would be below?
Wow. You had the cams off but it didn't occur to you to do a leak down test at that time? And what's up with jamming probes into the connector terminals?
Any reason to use that chain drive with a timing belt ?Seems to be added complexity for not much gain .... the chain would probably be noisier than the belt and the belt still needs frequent servicing on top of the less accessible chain location.
2006 V8 touareg OBDEleven isn't finding any misfire issues or codes. But at first rev you can hear it rattle. I know there was a TB on this. But at what point is it a concern? The TB just said it was normal. May not be the tensioner but kinda think it is. Really like OBDEleven use it alot. Someday I will buy VCDS but for the OBDEleven is awesome.
6:20 you can easily tell if valves are bent by checking the gap between the tops of the valves and the camshaft, if the valve is bent at all the gap will be huge.
Are these engines belt driven up to the head where the chains are?
As in not like the B6 S4 v8 that has chains front and back?
You can see the disappointment on Paul's face...
"F*CK".... My natural response when I work on our MKV.
Golf?
@@danielfl.9347 GTI TSI DSG
@@dimpl3sgaming346 There is much harder cars to work on. Cri more.
yayyyyyy more touareg attention!!!!
Will broken cam adjuster cause a ticking noise in engine on a 2005 Volkswagen Touareg V8 ?
Onde consigo o manual de montagem desse motor meu amigo.
Se puder me ajudar agradeço.
Would have been nice to see the cam tensioner and chain installation, that's where I'm at and lining up the timing marks and holding the two cams and the tensioner altogether while manipulating them into their journals is really a massive PITAso I feel I must be doing something wrong, obviously more so on the left bank due to it being in the back. BTW I have noticed that my engine is opposite, passenger side is bank two and driver is bank one because my number one is driver side, all of the marks lined up there, all four cams, the mark on the crank pulley, the previous mechanic marks from previous timing belt changes, the cam lock bar and the cylinder is at TDC on that side as well per old style screwdriver measure, can't get to the crank lock pin but this is the second Touareg that is set up that way, I have another one and previously replaced the timing belt and foot pads on that one two.
Have. A 04. Touareg. Starts. Good. Then after 2..3. Mins. Looses. Power. Amy idea ...can you guide me what to look and check??
My '04 A8 has the same issue and after I had the CPS and upper control arms replaced, she started misfiring. So not happy right now :'(
Do the cam sprocket timing marks line up, or are they offset like with the 2.7t V6 in S4 B5s & A5 C5s?
A lot of people get stuck on that 16 count.
Offset to the left same 16 roller count
Hey! Quick question DAP.
I’ve got a V8 Touareg with 147,000 on the clock ..... You have me spooked! What miles did the Cam adjuster go Kaput?
Should I have mine replacement? If so at mileage in your opinion? My V8 has been maintained with all schedule maintenance on time 🤷♂️
Bryan Mauroner they are fine for very long miles if you consistently change your oil and use good quality oil. I had a GTI with over 209K miles with the original chain and tensioner. Never had a problem with it and I was putting 25psi of boost through it and driving it like I stole it every time I got in it.
I HAVE THE SAME PROBLEM WITH MY TRUCK TRYING TO GET THE PARTS SO I CAN GET THE WORK DONE BUT DON'T HAVE A GOOD SOURCE FOR THE PARTS ANY ONE CAN GIVE ME A HAND ON THIS PLEASE
I have also vw touareg 2003 V6 petrol 220k miles no issue
With the cams removed, a leak down test with a breaker bar to hold the crank pulley would have taken five minutes and shown that cylinders 1 and 4 had bent valves. A six-hour gamble like that would not fly in the professional auto repair industry, but I suppose it serves as a good example of a $100 tool like a leak-down gauge being worth its weight in gold.
Honestly? A simple compression test of 0 is the red flag: stop immediately! There are bent valves. Just by the laws of probability. Get on the horn with the customer, take it from there.
I would have done a relative compression test with a scope. 5 minutes I know there are bent valves, and which cylinders.
Or inspect the valves with a borescope.
Does it have 200000 miles on it like my hemi Jeep?
That sucks. I noticed that you are not using OE cam timing adjuster. How has your experience been with after market ones? I would not feel comfortable with aftermarket ones, especially the ones made in China. Lot of labor involved for inferior products. What is your take on this?
They were oem. Just not out of the box VW ones. The ones he showed are Febi brand. Febi is the oem supplier. Remember VW doesn't make these parts. They just have their numbers and logo stamped on them.
Damn the bent valves.
Nice video and format. What I don't understand with VW's... is why people still buy them?? I mean, if people would stop buying them, then maybe VW would be a more reliable platform?? Right?? I just don't get it..............
I had an early Passat - maybe 98 or 99. Within the first year of owning it, a piece of plastic on the turbocharger broke and destroyed the engine. Took 8+ weeks to get a new engine from Germany which was replaced under warranty. Haven't owned a VW since. Its a shame, I really like VWs. I'm thinking of buying a newer Audi but I'm nervous. Not sure why VW thinks its ok to use cheap plastic in critical applications.
The explicit at 15:40 has reverberated several times through our household too so it's unfortunate to see that even a professional has these moments, but I understand
The previous owner neglected the repair and now that side of the engine needs a head. The BMW V8 from the late 90's and well into the 2000's suffer from the same problem. You simply can't ignore the diesel-like clat the engine makes when the timing chain guides fail.
Where did you buy that car??
I’m curious how you know all this stuff, how much do you learn in a school vs how much do you have to learn and remember doing the job “in the field”
It seems like a lot of information to retain the names of every little piece
This is not for everyone that is for sure. Still, it is a job you can pick up with both practice, and continued education.
However, it is those that are passionate about it, and love this stuff, that stand out as elite in this field.
It takes years upon years doing it over and over and training and a lot of money
School only gives you basic general information, real world experience and continued education is where you build on your experience and expertise.
Why not to do compression test before buying car in such condition.
Where you locate
yeah that sucks no compression. why didn´t you use a scope camera to look inside the cylinder maybe to see if there is any hit mark on the pinston head?
i ran in a similar issue like that on my car audi a4 quattro 2.8, but my car was acting a bit weird. first it had a long long i mean long crankig before it wanted to start, once it started runs a couple minutes rough, and i shutted down and start up again and starts easy and no rough or missfiring. but if the car seats for a couple hours acted like the beginning long long crank to start up.
long story short it happened to be the hydraulic valve lifters they weren´t holding up any oil they ran empty after the car was seat for a while. i used 1quart of marvel mystery oil and ¨voila¨ the long long long cranking was getting to less long long and then long and now my car just start normal with no long crank. i ran the mystery oil for 200 miles and i changed the oil.
at the beginning i made a compression test and i had no compressin on my cylinder 1, 3, 5 the 2, 4 and 6 were ok, that´s the reason my car when it started after the long crank was idling rough until the hydraulic lifters filled up with oil and then the 1 3 5 cylinder started to contribute to engine making the idling normal.
well anyway just wanted to share my experience on my car sniff sniff hope it helps someone.
BUT the most important is that we´ll be able to see more work on this touareg yeah,
Lifters were very common on the 2.8. You should probably think of replacing them if you ever do the t-belt.
Seems pretty clear to me that the previous owner didn't maintain the engine properly. Not changing the timing belt at the recommended 80k. If they didn't do that than they likely didn't service it properly at all. Hardly VW fault. I have had three VW products in my life and when maintained properly they are very reliable cars. When I sold my 06 golf TDI it had 250k miles. Ran like a top. Still had the original clutch
You can hear it
Where you able to change the tensioner without pulling the motor?
The cylinder head was replaced without taking out the engine
I own a 2016 VW Touareg TDI. I purchased it new for 50k. Hope I didn’t make a mistake
The TDI is actually much more reliable than FSI or TFSI.
Glad to hear that. Thank you
i see that touareg has dual projectors in one housing, whats function of them? one is low beam and other is fog or high beam?
One is high/low beam HID and the other is high beam halogen. Vision at night is great
@@ogalief thanks, any information on bulb types for xenon and halogen?
Marko Zutic not sure about halogen, I think it’s standard (H1 I think) but I know for sure that the xenon is D1S
That plastic chain tensioner and the way the chain passes over it, as in rubs over it looks like a bad design and it looks like VW did this on purpose so it would break eventually for more service cost to the owner.
That's the way most tensioners work the length of chain on this would have though would last for ever lack of lub or bad materials
Some little plastic parts break and the engine is ruined. I bought a 2010 Mini Cooper, did all the maintenance, never drove the car hard, it had 75,000 miles and the engine is toast. I do not know exactly what caused the engine to completely fail, but I suspect some crap like a broken plastic part.
Why does it have a timing belt when it has a chain?
how did you install the cam adjusters? with the engine in or took the engine out?
They did with the engine in you take a camshaft out then you install the camshaft adjuster on them then you put everything back in it
@@jasminbrnjak6505 Thx. Why didnt I think of it? Maybe because most mechanics trying to make money off of you, always say its an Engine out job. Appreciate the clarification.
My guess is rebuilding a 40v set of heads will pretty quickly guide you to a low mile set of used heads. 5 valves per cylinder and its a combustion chamber that looks like its all valve faces and spark plugs from a crashed UFO.
What's your opinion on buying a lower mileage touareg? Say like 120-140K? Would I still have to worry about this level of repair?
This failure isn’t common but it isn’t uncommon
It depends on the service it went through. Mine vw touareg V6 petrol 2003 with 220k miles no issue at all. I cant tell about the diesel ones. But from my experience even toyota diesel more than 100k miles u start having problems.... diesel.
A video on step by step removal of heads and timing would have been great. Could have made some $$ making those videos
Whew glad I bought a Toyota!!
Makes me wonder how bank 2 tensioners are doing. I would have done a scope inspection first. I don't know how many miles are on this car. But VW nowadays makes cars that they plan to last 110.000 miles or 180.000 km. That is common knowledge in Europe. It used to be more (150,000 mi/250.000 km) but times change.... I think only the Japanese construct cars for that mileage nowadays.
Should have air pressure test on dodgy cylinders save a lot of time and money
You poor bastard. Good luck .
Yup, called it. Skipped timing, bent valves.
You can't go without regular, proper maintenance on these 4.2 engines otherwise stuff will brake. The prvious owner is probably one of these people who kinda don't understand that not everything is a Chevy smallblock in terms of indestructability.
So my question is can you not have told it had no compression whatsoever even before changing out the camshaft chain tensioners?
Y’all could have pulled the valve cover and made sure the lobes were off the valves then did a leak down test and came to this result instead of replacing the adjuster, woulda saved ALOT of time.
Yup.... We just didnt expect it to have jumped. Also the crank would spin and we had no way to hold it
@@Deutscheautoparts could have rigged up a manifold to send compressed air into the cylinder with a gauge to monitor using a 3 way junction.
Deutsche Auto Parts There are tricks you can do to prevent the crank from spinning. Taking the piston to slightly past TDC, makes it more difficult for the air to move the crankshaft. You can also do the test at BDC and the pressure will not move the crankshaft in the slightest. However, doing it at BDC could make diagnosis trickier, because at BDC more pressure tends to escape into the crankcase. Not the case here, because bent valves hold no pressure at all, but one doesn't know that originally going in.
This is why I drive an old car.
OBD11?
I would expect that a compression test, regardless of the cam adjuster being replaced would’ve showed exactly the same thing. Cylinder 4 is dead.
Borescope is your friend when buying one of these. Any Audi/VW 4.2L belt drive has these issues with higher miles. If it's got misfires, even before you bother swapping coils...periscope/borescope it to save you heartache. If the piston crowns have eyebrows, move on. Oh...and avoid any 1st gen Touareg. That was VWs money pit of the early-mid 2000's. Then came the CC...then the EOS...
So much for German Engineering... The stuff is only great until it breaks and turns into a money pit. VW needs to hire more Japanese engineers to get rid of all the plastic bits in their engines
AMATEUR QUESTION : If it has bent valves, why can't you just replace the bent values ? Why does the who head have to be replaced ?
The head has to be removed to pull the valves. The head would prob be ok.
Once upon a time there was an OBD 2 . Somehow we are now at OBD II " Eleven". Real thorough emphasis and prophessional approach otherwise.
It’s the name of the scan tool we were using so......
VW could have avoided all these issues if they just put two simple gears at the end of those cams. No tensioner needed, and will last the life of the engine without issue.
There are many ways to create dynamic valve timing, yet they chose the worst possible. German auto: engineered to fail, to fail miserably, and too expensive to fix.
This is exactly how mine is misfiring :(
If you’re throwing that one away I know where a 2003 v10 tdi Touareg is :)
the cheapest Touraeg you buy will be the most expensive Touraeg you buy.
I'd stay away from a scan tool that thinks OBD two is OBD eleven.
Gary Jean My reaction exactly. Roman numerals are confusing 😊
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Wake up Gary, start using most powerful vag tool!!!
Could just change the vales in that cylinder