Different denominations are a GOOD THING??

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  • @dominusalicorn3684
    @dominusalicorn3684 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +411

    As a Baptist, I'm actually cool with being called the feet. One of our favorite verses is Romans 10:13-15 which includes "how beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace." We are, despite our other faults, extremely engaged in evangelism.

    • @a_fisherofmen
      @a_fisherofmen 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +49

      That's what I was thinking! Baptists mobilize and preach, and explain the Gospel in simple terms that anyone can understand.

    • @EzraCansler
      @EzraCansler 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

      I like it as well!

    • @MrShaoreon
      @MrShaoreon 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Agree, genuinely happy to be part of the feet

    • @MrShaoreon
      @MrShaoreon 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Agree, genuinely happy to be part of the feet

    • @ogloc6308
      @ogloc6308 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Amen

  • @CroatDoesStuff
    @CroatDoesStuff 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +640

    happy all saints day to all the Methodists, Catholics, Protestants, Anglicans and Lutherans! ✝️

    • @silvio1894
      @silvio1894 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +24

      Likewise friend.

    • @micheledicecioc
      @micheledicecioc 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +18

      Happy all saints day

    • @veryangryduckpl2122
      @veryangryduckpl2122 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

      Peacfull saints day!

    • @olekcholewa8171
      @olekcholewa8171 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +15

      All Saint's Day is the real deal, we don't celebrate Halloween where i live.

    • @veryangryduckpl2122
      @veryangryduckpl2122 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +29

      @@olekcholewa8171 Tbh haloween does give a good excuse to dress up ad a crusader and read The Song of Roland in public

  • @larryf4180
    @larryf4180 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +375

    It was predestined that he’d list Presbyterians as the brain

    • @bluedrummajor2876
      @bluedrummajor2876 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      Bad Dad joke. Very bad.

    • @twaho
      @twaho 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thank God they're not the brain, the church would be gnostic

    • @kze24
      @kze24 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

      One time my high school volleyball team lost to a Calvinist school in a game I was at. I said it was predestined for the Calvinists to win. I was (and still am) an odd individual.

    • @clashcon11
      @clashcon11 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Dad Jokes, lol.

    • @RomaCatholica
      @RomaCatholica 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@bluedrummajor2876 I laughed.

  • @VeritasVivet
    @VeritasVivet 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +936

    Not surprised he made his own tradition the “brain” lol

    • @corbinhulsewe
      @corbinhulsewe 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +230

      I mean it’s kinda the stereotype that Presbyterians are the nerds of Christianity. I’m a Lutheran and I think it’s fitting.

    • @johnjackson9767
      @johnjackson9767 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +60

      The brain has its own very deep flaws.

    • @Shnitzel_Affe
      @Shnitzel_Affe 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +63

      @@corbinhulseweAs a Catholic I think we should see who’s making the most scientific advancements (us)

    • @yogun1922
      @yogun1922 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +48

      @@johnjackson9767as does every other part of the body; they are incomplete without each other.
      The point is you cannot make complete body out of hearts, or brains, or feet. We all need to work together to make a fully functioning body with Christ Jesus as the head.

    • @gabrielstorm4719
      @gabrielstorm4719 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +38

      He always says he is biased towards his own Tradition. And It's ok

  • @josiah7143
    @josiah7143 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +318

    Please understand that RZ is using analogy. Of course it has flaws, of course it isnt entirely accurate, and I don't think he means for it to be. His point is just that we (Christians) spend too much time fighting with, anathematizing, excommunicating, and schisming from each other when most of the world still does not believe Jesus is God. Yes, our differences are important, RZ admits that, but we are unified in Christ. We ought to keep our internal disagreements respectful and focus on spreading the kingdom of God. That's all he's saying.

    • @johnjackson9767
      @johnjackson9767 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

      Agreed

    • @joeedwards3100
      @joeedwards3100 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

      I believe it’s correct and valid. This system is a proper explanation through logical means to justify Christian unity and respecting each other for choosing certain denominations. I believe all denominations can lead you to salvation but all denominations are different in regards to focusing on achieving faith. I don’t think there’s a best way to achieve faith in Christ because I think it has more to do with the individual (they actively work on the mind, heart and body) and the pastor themselves that influence the church people. Obviously you have to follow the fundamentals of the Bible so the progressive church is the exception.
      The reason it’s “not accurate” because the individuals in each denomination can choose to be a different part of the body of Christ but the churches as a whole focuses more on certain parts of the body of Christ than others so we can understand the primary mission of each church.

    • @IsraelCrisantos-t1h
      @IsraelCrisantos-t1h 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Agreed

    • @ngzchongsoon9147
      @ngzchongsoon9147 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      a lot of people are missing the points...

    • @HolyPelvisPresley
      @HolyPelvisPresley 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Are you united in christ with the mormons and the LGBTQ+ flags protestant churches folks ?

  • @SonicForges
    @SonicForges 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +86

    "Diversity without Division". Love that quote! Happy All Saints Day!

  • @Novum_Caledonia
    @Novum_Caledonia 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +155

    The Christian infighting is so stupid. We are all united by Christ, we need to put our Ego away and hear each other out.

    • @drjanitor3747
      @drjanitor3747 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      No we don’t. Protestants need to stop protesting and return to Christs church.

    • @Artem_Myronko
      @Artem_Myronko 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

      When one says that all can be saved and the other says that some do not have the chance to be saved, if one says that purgatory exists and the other says they don't, if someone says that salvation is by faith alone and the other says that salvation comes with works... what unity is this? Just a fake unity

    • @drjanitor3747
      @drjanitor3747 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Novum_Caledonia we’re not united in Christ. Heretics are outside the body.

    • @a_fisherofmen
      @a_fisherofmen 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@Artem_Myronko There is unity. Trust bro.

    • @Novum_Caledonia
      @Novum_Caledonia 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      @@Artem_Myronko who the f*ck cares? These are just theological discussion that are not important and are a productof our human nature. Important is that we all believe in Jesus Christ. If they are not against us they are with us.

  • @micheledicecioc
    @micheledicecioc 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +254

    As a Catholic, i think that my denomination is right
    But we should unite

    • @divinesleeper
      @divinesleeper 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +18

      I hope God starts bringing this to pass because I was brought up catholic, attend baptist/evangelical church, think the Orthodox church is the most correct church and can see where Calvinists are coming from (as a physicist). Let's start bringing it all together please because I think every denomination has its flaws and benefits.

    • @micheledicecioc
      @micheledicecioc 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @divinesleeper ok

    • @alfieingrouille1528
      @alfieingrouille1528 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      I would very easily become Catholic right now if I'm being honest, but I love the community behind my local Anglican too much to leave them & I refuse to see the pope as infallible

    • @smoshfan99999999
      @smoshfan99999999 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      @@alfieingrouille1528 That's because 99.999999999% of the time the Pope is not infallible. And even when the Pope is teaching infallibly(Ex-Cathedra), it is not the Pope that is infallible but rather the Holy Spirit that is teaching through him.
      Catholics don't believe in infallible humans but we do believe the Holy Spirit hasn't abandoned the Christian laity or Christ's Church. And that the Holy Spirit teaches infallibly during Ecumenical Councils and Ex-Cathedra teachings.

    • @Shnitzel_Affe
      @Shnitzel_Affe 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      @@alfieingrouille1528we also believe he isn’t infallible most of the time

  • @silvio1894
    @silvio1894 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +116

    Moments ago, I prayed for all Christians and church parishes.
    May Lord Jesus Christ bless you Redeemed Zoomer and all your subscribers.
    P.s. Congratulations on the wedding brother. May God bless you both.
    Edit: Forgot to mention, happy All Saints Day everybody.

    • @fallenkingdom-zd8xh
      @fallenkingdom-zd8xh 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Happy belated All Saints Day! And in the Catholic Church, it’s now All Souls Day.

  • @kylie5741
    @kylie5741 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +47

    Our Father, who art in heaven, hallowed be Thy name, Thy kingdom come, Thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven. Give us this day our daily bread; and forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those who trespass against us; and lead us not into temptation but deliver us from evil. For Thine is the kingdom and the power and the glory forever and ever. Amen.

  • @FiveGuysFan0604
    @FiveGuysFan0604 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +16

    This was a great video! I really liked your perspective on the different denominations of Christianity. As a Roman Catholic, who watches your videos, you are very intellectually sound. Hope our denominations can all be a little more closer and friendlier as time goes on. God bless all my different Christian denominations brothers out there!

  • @andykudsi7697
    @andykudsi7697 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +29

    God bless you, much love from the orthodox church

  • @ChristianMissonalHoliness
    @ChristianMissonalHoliness 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +25

    It's always a good day when we see the Church of the Nazarene get a shout out. Thanks brother

  • @trevorreilly5748
    @trevorreilly5748 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +32

    Absolutely! The eyes don’t say to the feet “you aren’t the body because you can’t see!”

    • @thomasdemetz6145
      @thomasdemetz6145 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      this analogy is about different members within ONE church, not across denominations. There is a divide for a very good reason.

  • @highdunker7740
    @highdunker7740 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +33

    As a Greek Orthodox I pray daily that our Churches unite. God bless all of you.

  • @tylerbessette464
    @tylerbessette464 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

    Maine baptist here, really enjoying the recent influx of pro-baptist videos lately. Do pray for my state please. Once new england was a theological center, now we're the least christian part of the country. The lord has put it on my heart to evangelise this state and strengthen the local church. If my prayers are answered theologians will come from other states to preserve the Lords work after revival. Not my will but his be done.

  • @fallenkingdom-zd8xh
    @fallenkingdom-zd8xh 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +128

    Happy All Saints Day! To my fellow Catholics, please remember to go to Mass today since it’s a Holy Day of Obligation.

    • @Matthew-307
      @Matthew-307 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Its a pagan “holy-day” and is abominable in the eyes of God. Repent of your Mystery Babylon religion and get Biblical.

    • @ThunderboxMusic
      @ThunderboxMusic 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      I’m Baptist/nondenominational but I still look up to the saints! God bless you!

    • @fallenkingdom-zd8xh
      @fallenkingdom-zd8xh 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      @ Glad to hear that! God bless you.

    • @clydepereira8025
      @clydepereira8025 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      On my way.

  • @ShotgunAngel1260
    @ShotgunAngel1260 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

    The last few days I’ve been really agitated by the infighting and I simple no longer care about different traditions’ paths. We all serve Christ, and we all need each other. Thanks for making this. Agree to disagree and care about the agreements we do have.

    • @thoughtgaming492
      @thoughtgaming492 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Preach brother. Every church is equal in the sense that they are all imperfect. If church X brings you closer to christ than church Y does, all power to you. Whether you believe babies should be baptized or not, or whatever other irrelevant theological difference you have, the only important part is that you are truly trying your best to follow christ.

  • @eddyk2016
    @eddyk2016 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Excellent channel. Be proud of yourself. You are really helping people/kids learn
    Thank you x

  • @CrimsonWar5
    @CrimsonWar5 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +19

    Showing 12 denominations, talking about the 12 tribes, and doing it at the 12 minute mark. Uber meta, God bless you brother.

  • @HistoryNerd808
    @HistoryNerd808 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +83

    As an addendum, I also think it's important to note that cultures are different. Catholic and Orthodox apply much better to countries in say, South America and Eastern Europe, that are much more focused on tradition. Baptist theology fits much better here in the States as freedom and individualism are much more a part of our national character and ideals. "Different strokes for different folks" in other words.

    • @veryangryduckpl2122
      @veryangryduckpl2122 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +16

      Yeah, it is beautifull how here in Poland the Catholic church managed to preserve christianity. Hope ya protestants hold out there in the west!

    • @TheSignofJonah777
      @TheSignofJonah777 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@veryangryduckpl2122 since Lyndon b Johnson he has implemented social programs that replace the church. Hopefully those will be abolished soon.

    • @Shnitzel_Affe
      @Shnitzel_Affe 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      I agree with this, but we should be shaping culture, not the other way around

    • @Matthew_Prescott
      @Matthew_Prescott 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Should the form of worship follow the culture though? If so then why?
      Trad Catholics believe ideally the World should follow the form of worship of the Church (Middle Ages etc), but that strictly speaking there need not be any link between the two at all, and the Church certainly should not conform to the "needs" of the world, when we see that what the fallen World everywhere needs is and always has been the same Faith and the same Christ. I do love my American freedoms, but that said religious freedom and religious individualism are considered serious errors in Church teaching, for the simple reason that you cannot have religious pluralism and an "agree to disagree" mentality without disobedience to divinely revealed and objective truths of Faith via relativism, and the tolerance essentially of heresy which results. This is not a rejection of variety entirely - there are many different Rites in the Catholic Church, and many of the Eastern - but merely a recognition that Truth does not change with the cultural opinions, and neither does submission to real authority.
      More broadly, when we seek "fitness" of the Church to culture, I feel as if we have lost the whole point of worship, which is not ourselves, but which is God. That is why Trad Catholics are uncompromising in their assertion that they have the "one true faith," as RZ might say. I am guessing that other high Church traditions outside of Catholicism also feel this way to some extent despite our doctrinal differences.
      Either way, much love brother. Just wanted to offer a different take. I do agree that cultures are different but I don't think Theological conclusions do or should differ across cultures as well, without someone being demonstrably wrong about something along the way.

    • @HistoryNerd808
      @HistoryNerd808 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@Matthew_Prescott I think you're somewhat misreading what I'm saying. I'm not saying that we should compromise our views to the world. I'm saying that different things appeal to different people while maintaining the same core. For instance, a high church theology is more appealing to places that have a long tradition whereas lower church traditions appeal more to areas with more of a skepticism toward institutions.

  • @fabb333
    @fabb333 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +27

    Love the beard and the glasses on the Orthodox and Presbies

  • @Jav3ra
    @Jav3ra วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thanks Jim Halpert from season 6-end. I was thinking about this yesterday and felt judgy about the issue a bit. Skeptical even.
    This video came in the right time for another reason.
    I learned that while researching or thinking about theology, I get excited to learn.
    I've got pretty stuck in laziness lately and my life had gone south for it but I learned more than just theology with this video.
    Thanks a lot man, God bless you my man!

  • @BigTInTheMorning
    @BigTInTheMorning 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Did you make orthodox the eyes just to say “eye-cons”

  • @fatsothegawd7539
    @fatsothegawd7539 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    I pray in the name of Jesus that our generation Gen z can be the generation that revives and unites to spread the gospel to new heights . I pray that lord you can Bless RZ and his mission to speak unity . Guide him fill his heart with your endless love and grace and strengthen all of us during the times where we need to be firm . I thank you Lord for all things in jesus mighty Name Amen
    God bless brother !

  • @melsarcauga8019
    @melsarcauga8019 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Ever since I've found your channel, I've been a champion for Ecumenism. Our Lord Jesus Christ calls for it. God bless you brother.

  • @annelisecroell757
    @annelisecroell757 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    This video is phenomenal. Thank you!

  • @shaddjimenez7687
    @shaddjimenez7687 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

    Just got finished preaching to Gospel to people in my neighborhood during Halloween, huge opportunity with people out and more likely to want to interviewed

    • @shaddjimenez7687
      @shaddjimenez7687 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Also, I was wearing normal clothes.

    • @katyasehryn8810
      @katyasehryn8810 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Excellent work brother in being the light in the darkness! Praise God for your obedience!

    • @kze24
      @kze24 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Nice job, you're a lot bolder than I would be

    • @shaddjimenez7687
      @shaddjimenez7687 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@kze24 It's not boldness, it's love. :)

    • @shaddjimenez7687
      @shaddjimenez7687 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@kze24 I posted one of them on my channel if u want to see one, but I only posted one there's many I haven't posted

  • @teravega
    @teravega 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    I'm so glad that I'm not the only one that understands that 1cor 13 extends far more than just simply gifts. I appreciate every denomination because they have different strengths and I learn from all of them.

  • @jty1999
    @jty1999 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    May God bless my brothers and sisters in differing denominations ✝️

  • @fatsothegawd7539
    @fatsothegawd7539 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    THIS IS A SOLID PLAN I LOVE THIS SO MUCH IM GOING TO SHARE THIS VIDEO TO EVERYONE I KNOW

  • @XxZekeKnightxX
    @XxZekeKnightxX 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Amen! This was a comment I've been making for a while now. We have a greater war to wage than to fight each other. Not to say we shouldn't debate, iron sharpens iron after all. But we should love each other despite our differences, I point to John 13:35 in conjunction with Mark 9:40 that RZ cited.
    I'm Pentecostal, and like RZ who is Reformed, I too believe Catholics are Christian, a minority position in Pentecostal circles as well as Reformed circles.
    I also just want people to come to faith in Christ, been talking to an old friend who's like a brother to me about the Gospel. He's ex-Catholic and has a litney of issues against the Catholics and just in general mad at God, been through some things we shouldn't wish upon anyone. I've been wanting to encourage him to try a Lutheran or Presbyterian church that's in his area for something that's familiar enough without causing heartache. If he becomes Lutheran, glory to God! It would be nice if he became Pentecostal like me, I believe in this tradition as RZ believes in the Reformed tradition, but our focus is on saving souls, not growing membership.

  • @Audjem1
    @Audjem1 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

    18:01 the side track was crazy then the “I was talking about religion”

  • @torterra70
    @torterra70 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    This reminded me of Acts 11:16-18. We might do things differently and we might not like or agree but who are we to think we can stand in Gods way to make people believers.

  • @kylie5741
    @kylie5741 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

    I actually really like this perspective

  • @imaboss6244
    @imaboss6244 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    “Here’s where the video might get a little weird” for a split second I thought he was about to start getting into more obscure body parts 😳

    • @Member0403
      @Member0403 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Seventh Day Adventists are the appendix of the church😭

  • @alfieingrouille1528
    @alfieingrouille1528 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +25

    My local Anglican & my local Baptist churches have a very good relationship 😊

    • @Hedgehogz856
      @Hedgehogz856 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Protestant churches usually have good relations with each other. It’s the prot-catholic, orthodox-catholic and orthodox-Protestant relations which are bad

    • @HistoryNerd808
      @HistoryNerd808 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      That's fantastic news. Unfortunately, I feel a lot of us evangelicals and the more high-church denominations tend to be really skeptical of each other, even to the point of questioning each other's salvation sometimes. We need to remember the line that a lot of the Restorationist groups like to use "in essentials, unity; in non-essentials, liberty; in all things, love."

  • @user-in1yw9ty5t
    @user-in1yw9ty5t 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    So proud of rz for bringing this out. He sees the good in everyone and also doesnt denies his self because his self is also proof of working grace of the Holy Spirit. I agree with his commentary on theology and his rage as well haha., and have now a deeper appreciation for his wisdom. Glory be to God.

  • @john-davidheron4550
    @john-davidheron4550 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Super interesting and original idea to consider different denominations as making up the Body of Christ! I keep thinking of how other denominations you didn't mention would fit in to this metaphor.

  • @Partizani192
    @Partizani192 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +55

    Happy All Saint's Day to all Catholic's from a fellow Catholic!

    • @benjaminblack1867
      @benjaminblack1867 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

      It All saints day in many denominations

    • @Matthew-307
      @Matthew-307 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Paganism, abominable.

    • @ChaoMung-t9u
      @ChaoMung-t9u 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Lutherans, Anglicans etc etc

    • @xavierjmj
      @xavierjmj 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      and with your spirit

  • @sebastianpapiez1728
    @sebastianpapiez1728 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    I love that idea, it's awesome. Different ways to the same crossroad ✝Catholic muscle over here 💪

  • @harrykendall210
    @harrykendall210 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Top notch Moody impression BTW 😂
    Great video, really appreciate your views on unity and diversity

  • @dragonmaster1500
    @dragonmaster1500 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Bless you brother, as much as I like to argue with the Pentecostals or get annoyed with the Catholics this video is a good reminder that we really are all parts of the body of Christ.
    It makes sense that you would think of the Baptists (and other Anabaptists) as the feet of the body. There's a reason why the church denomination I'm part of is called the Christian and Missionary Alliance. Our mission statement is to Grow Deep in Christ through study of the word, and to reach wide. Whether that through ministering to our local Parish, funding soup kitchens and shelters, helping kids from less fortunate homes participate in extracurricular activities, or sending missionaries all across the world.

  • @DMIwriter
    @DMIwriter 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    I'm Reformed and I do agree with you that Catholic and Orthodox can be genuine Christians (often in spite of their soteriology). However, I would make the caveat that the Venn Diagram of the visible and invisible church probably has more overlap in certain denominations compared to others.

    • @redeemedzoomer6053
      @redeemedzoomer6053  20 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      well yes

    • @DMIwriter
      @DMIwriter 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      ​@@redeemedzoomer6053 But just an anecdote to illustrate your point. I have an Orthodox co-worker who saw me reading Lewis one day which in turn led to us discussing our faith. He knows I'm Reformed, I know he's Orthodox. And yet we end up, almost daily, having the most edifying conversations that always end up centering on Christ for us.

    • @facundopuerta7673
      @facundopuerta7673 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      i believe many of them do put their faith in Jesus for salvation and dont care about what the pope says you have to do in order to be saved, i didnt find many catholics who show signs of a new born experience or interest in the scriptures, but some of them do believe

    • @facundopuerta7673
      @facundopuerta7673 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      the main problem is they are sitting above all of the rest and telling who can or not be saved because they "have the authority"

  • @BayaRae
    @BayaRae 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Love this. You've articulated something I've been pondering for some time. 🙏

  • @InkLore-p3h
    @InkLore-p3h 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +23

    The big problem that I haven’t found a solution to is that there are differences in who we believe is saved: unity between say Catholics and Baptists is difficult as one has more requirements for someone to be saved while the other has less. There is an asymmetry in who we count as our brothers in Christ, meaning there is an asymmetry in who we think still needs to be saved.

    • @BigSneed404
      @BigSneed404 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

      Just give the matter to God. Look at a Baptist church and judge the tree for its fruits, same for the Catholics. Clearly, judging from their fruits, the Holy Spirit walks amongst both of these traditions even though they each believe radically different and sometimes contradicting things.
      Who is right? Let God settle such matters, and in the meantime remember that he who is not against Him is for Him.

    • @joshuareeves5103
      @joshuareeves5103 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      I think unity has to happen first with the closer traditions and then slowly more and more further out. It won't happen overnight. So this probably needs to be like orthodox and catholic uniting and then viewing pope as first among equals rather than on top. Then you could integrate this kind of church structure with many of the protestant traditions that are hierarchical as long as certain convictions aren't tied to anathemas. Finally, I think the Baptists could be grafted in under certain pretenses. The main thing is that they are left to govern themselves so long as they don't transgress essential doctrine like Christ's divinity

    • @michaelxx8776
      @michaelxx8776 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      @@BigSneed404Exactly. Arguing about which domination is saved and which one isn’t is such a waste of time. It’s much better to evangelize to those out in the world who are hurting, haven’t heard the Good News, and haven’t found Christ yet.
      I’m Protestant and I’d much rather hear a story of a non-believer converting to Orthodoxy, for example, than to be an atheist or agnostic.

    • @kze24
      @kze24 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      @@michaelxx8776 Yes, if someone is an atheist and feels led toward Eastern Orthodoxy, I'll direct them to that, even if I'm a Lutheran. I'll also tell them about Lutheranism, but if they don't want to be Lutheran then at least they want to be Christian.

  • @tsl9150
    @tsl9150 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Yeees, this is so nice! All Christians must unite! Be friends! We are like the twelve tribes of Israel!

    • @theeternalsbeliever1779
      @theeternalsbeliever1779 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      That rationale is absolutely wrong, because the epistles preach that God's Church is not divided by traditions, doctrines, or judgement. No matter what rationale the denominations used to explain their nonexistent unity, they're not united by anything except deceit.

    • @tsl9150
      @tsl9150 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@theeternalsbeliever1779 But are we not united in Jesus Christ, and having access to the Holy Spirit? A Spirit that can take residence in all followers of Christ, and thus give them true _peace_ in their soul? This happened to me. I gave my life to Christ, and the Holy Spirit set up shop inside me and thus I now have a deepseated sence of peace. So we do not share this?

  • @trainedforthis
    @trainedforthis 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    For the past year this exact thought has been on my mind. Every denomination has a purpose, in the whole Body of Christ. We can settle and finalize our differences from God Himself in the afterlife. Right now, we have a lot of work to be done.

  • @GreatGraniteState
    @GreatGraniteState 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    'diversity without division' is the main thing of the sermon at my church yesterday that's pretty wild

  • @michaelg4919
    @michaelg4919 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    this is what it means to be ecumenical!! well said RZ and God bless you!

  • @mr.e8432
    @mr.e8432 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Mmmm, I don’t know. The New Testament talks about false preachers, "For the time is coming when people will not put up with sound doctrine, but have itching ears. They will accumulate for themselves, teachers to suite their own desires.” -2 Tim 4:3. That pretty much sums up the reformation. Also, the apostolic fathers were pretty clear on this as well. “If one should deny the unity of Peter, can he still imagine that he holds the faith? If one should desert the chair of Peter, upon whom the church was founded, can he still imagine that he is in the church?” - Cyprian of Carthage, Against Heresy, Chapter 3 -259 A.D.

  • @ikemeitz5287
    @ikemeitz5287 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Wonderful video. I agree that one of the great overarching themes of the Bible is "What you meant for evil, God meant for good." Just look at the apostles' prayer in Acts 4!

  • @Blues2green
    @Blues2green 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Do one on the seven churches in revelation and how maybe they correlate to their “spiritual condition” in grouped denominations bc I know they are spiritual conditions but denominational groups? Love the video!❤️

  • @kartofff
    @kartofff 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thank you. I'm a roman catholic from France. I've watched a lot of your videos, and found this to be one of your best, both in insight and in utility (though Saint Thomas Aquinas wasn't a prebyterian 😀) . After so many videos defining who's what, at last, this brings it together. Love the idea of Israel's tribes !

  • @CreationForeverMinistries
    @CreationForeverMinistries 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    As a Lutheran, I can confirm that Lutherans truly focus on the heart. ❤❤

  • @AlexCPauwels85
    @AlexCPauwels85 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    AMEN!!! Saints are being martyred everyday for their faith and they come from different denominations, to the enemy the denomination does not matter and in our heart and love for each other it should not matter either.

  • @nsinkov
    @nsinkov 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Lol. That's some back handed compliments.

  • @Bimbambommel
    @Bimbambommel 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I had this exact same thought for a while now! Great explanation

  • @augustbergquist9753
    @augustbergquist9753 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    I feel like the twelve tribes analogy is a bit of a stretch, but overall love your thoughtful ideas!

  • @billybrant6818
    @billybrant6818 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Love all of this, especially the unity in diversity

  • @BEOWULF266
    @BEOWULF266 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I have noticed the same focuses of Calvinists and Baptists that you mentioned! I've noticed that most of the Christians who are out there trying to answer the hard (and easy) questions are Calvinists of some variety. I've also noticed that most of the missionaries who are going out into unreached people groups are Baptist/Baptist adjacent. I think that Calvinists are very inwardly focused on the Church and Baptists are very outwardly focused on the lost. It's bothered me for years because both are good and important and I wish that all groups of Christians could have the inward and outward focus at the same time.

  • @natalier7548
    @natalier7548 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    “Now I plead with you, brethren, by the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that you all speak the same thing, and that there be no divisions among you, but that you be perfectly joined together in the same mind and in the same judgment.” 1 Corinthians 1:10 NKJV.
    funny that the day i’m watching this the verse of the day is about there being no divisions. 🙏

  • @badazzmaro
    @badazzmaro 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Even people in the same church can share there's strengths and weakness and help each other.

  • @fallenkingdom-zd8xh
    @fallenkingdom-zd8xh 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

    Stay strong, brothers! We must grow in the virtue of chastity through NNN and for eternity.

  • @femmcclure2213
    @femmcclure2213 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    While I was watching I immediately wanted to shift the body parts assignments. But as I kept watching I was happy to see how little those assignments mattered because you brought it all back to Jesus. Amen!

  • @Smathles
    @Smathles 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    As a baptist, I understand from this video that we're all about feet 💀

    • @clashcon11
      @clashcon11 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      And I guess, I'm the tongue

    • @danielordonez7760
      @danielordonez7760 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I total get it tho

  • @jacobloeppky2727
    @jacobloeppky2727 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    1 corinthians 1:10. I agree brother. We are all one body. The focus is on who Jesus is and what he has done/will do for us. Love the videos

  • @Deck1014
    @Deck1014 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I will try to incorporate some of this into my upcoming presentation on ecclesiology.

  • @landonmiller338
    @landonmiller338 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Amen! this approach to denominations is much more encouraging and refreshing than the typical gloomy perspective painted by American Evangelicals. This is also why I love the CREC! :)

  • @mewnny7477
    @mewnny7477 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    All things work together for good for those who love him

  • @davidjacobo4204
    @davidjacobo4204 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

    Great video. This a theory I’ve had floating around in my head for years and you condensed it into something coherent. You are a unique talent.

  • @ScripturesAndPictures
    @ScripturesAndPictures 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Proverbs 4:23
    Above all else, guard your heart,
    for everything you do flows from it.
    😀

  • @AlexanderSchröder777
    @AlexanderSchröder777 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I prefer the bow tie

    • @TruckBuck25
      @TruckBuck25 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I liked it aswell.

  • @ninjason57
    @ninjason57 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The problem is that in practical application if each part is moving in different directions the body can not move forward. Each part can have it's separate function as long as they are in sync for a singular goal.

  • @Hibrnaldo
    @Hibrnaldo 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Catholic here. Great content Mr RZ, thank you. We are in a war.

  • @badazzmaro
    @badazzmaro 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The thumbnail looks very accurate to my experience.

  • @OryanBennett
    @OryanBennett 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This video took me a couple of days to finish but boy am I glad I did.
    Thank you so much!!!

  • @lkae4
    @lkae4 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Great point. I'm from a non-denominational background. That... denomination needs a strong Christian environment to spread the Gospel and love the lost here. But they are thriving in the persecution of China. Different gifts in different contexts.

  • @chocobear2024
    @chocobear2024 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    As someone who has assisted to a variety of churches (baptist/ catholic/Orthodox/Presbyterian and more) I find good in every one of them, but I also find bad in other aspects. We shouldn't fight over who is right and who is wrong, since we are all trying to glorify the one living God in our own way. We all are trying to send the same message across, that it is not by our own actions that we are saved but by the blood of Jesus Christ. (so yes, I have no idea what my denomination is, Im just trying to learn more about God and to share it to others all while strengthening my own faith).

  • @LTDLimiTeD1995
    @LTDLimiTeD1995 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I love the people of my church, and I have no problem being a foot, but man I wish I could get intellectual about things in small groups without being made to feel that it's actually a fault...

  • @j_deo
    @j_deo 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This could helpfully be applied to movements or religious orders as well in particular denominations. Churches that max on one thing often have groups that do some of the other things mentioned.

  • @NESHYBeast
    @NESHYBeast 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Blessed All Saints Day. Semper Reformanda

  • @chinchillaruby4170
    @chinchillaruby4170 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Protestants: errrm... Achktually....
    Catholics: 💪💪💪

  • @proatnothing4263
    @proatnothing4263 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    8:36 my dad(Catholic) for a span of 40 days every year prays outside of an abortion place every Wednesday usually with some other parishioners and knights and of course I'm also Catholic

    • @sird2333
      @sird2333 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      But are you Christian? I don’t say I’m Presbyterian or I’m Anglican or I’m Baptist.

    • @Quintovius
      @Quintovius 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      @@sird2333 Catholics are Christian. If you refuse to describe yourself by denomination, that's on you, but don't play dumb when other people do describe themselves by denomination.
      It's like someone saying they're a man, and you ask if they're human. A man is a type of human. Them saying they're a man is also them saying they're a human.

    • @VVGrace-vl6ye
      @VVGrace-vl6ye 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Is this through 40 Days For Life? Awesome!

    • @LTDLimiTeD1995
      @LTDLimiTeD1995 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Nice, my denomination decrys basic sex education then does a shocked pikachu face when somebody gets knocked up.

    • @DuckysTales
      @DuckysTales 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      What do yall think of abortions in cases of legitimate medical/criminal reasons? Even when those cases are numerically lesser currently, they deserve the healthcare that is actually needed. There are different reasons a woman is unable to carry a baby to term, especially so when the baby is not viable to begin with. Genetic mutations that don't end in misscarriages, but will end the childs life prematurely should not go through suffering. A raped woman should fully decide herself if it is healthy for her mind and soul to have the baby, for it is highly likely it wont end well for either if the decision is not out of freewill. Sometimes the woman is way too young or too old to carry and birth safely for the baby and the mother.
      Absolutism is not the way, for that ends up in unecessary suffering. Nuance is important in heavy topics like this.

  • @timothyvenable3336
    @timothyvenable3336 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Love this, I’ve always thought about this! It’s so true honestly
    You should do a video on the one and the many

  • @kaiserconquests1871
    @kaiserconquests1871 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I appreciate how you can see the good things in many different denominations that you disagree with. But I am curious about your opinion on Galatians 5:20. Do you think dissensions and sects in that passage could refer to having multiple denominations? If not, then what do you think it is relevant to?

  • @Constanntine
    @Constanntine 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    You tought of a really cool way to see all the denominations. I think that's really close to the truth. And I liked that you mentioned that the LGBT work with their differences under a same banner. We as Christians should do the same, but with the banner of Christ.

  • @ChristopherReid-i1d
    @ChristopherReid-i1d 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    A big tent is literally what the Anglicans tried to do which failed lol

  • @conradr.9541
    @conradr.9541 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Great video!
    Hey, would you be able to do a video on Origen, probably the most controversial early church thinker, and give your opinion on him? Do you consider him a “church father”?
    Do you consider him a heretic/heterodox, do you think he actually did that “procedure” on himself, etc?

  • @aidanshawnart1189
    @aidanshawnart1189 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

    Pentecostals: The Tongue
    Love the video ))

    • @2015BLOXXER
      @2015BLOXXER 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      😂

    • @anonymous-rm3ut
      @anonymous-rm3ut 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I know it's a joke but Pentacostal's are faking it

    • @clashcon11
      @clashcon11 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      😂😂😂😅

  • @elcarlos8905
    @elcarlos8905 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    I think another funny way is looking at the denominations like space marine chapters that have different primearchs but still serve the God emperor in this case Christ

  • @juancristobalaedo9292
    @juancristobalaedo9292 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I like the call to unity among those who call Christ: Lord.
    Christ is my Lord.
    God bless you.

  • @phogeysquatch
    @phogeysquatch 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I don't think our goals are similar enough to work together. It's like a guy building a fence and a guy tearing it down working together.

    • @KingdomHarvestCinema
      @KingdomHarvestCinema 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Agree. The difference of soteriology between a baptist, catholic, and calvinist are huge. With a heavy heart i cannot say our “witnessing” message is the same

  • @Steve-u9k4p
    @Steve-u9k4p 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Anglican here. Great image.👍

  • @CameronShawMusic
    @CameronShawMusic 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Love the little Harry Potter tangent.

  • @UltriLeginaXI
    @UltriLeginaXI 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Let us all unite in the name of the King! One God! One Faith! One Nation!

  • @fatalheart7382
    @fatalheart7382 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    "Make every effort to keep the unity of the Spirit through the bond of peace."

  • @fij715
    @fij715 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    There is only one truth and not thousands of them. God started one Church. There was only one temple in Jerusalem and not thousands of temples.

    • @thoughtgaming492
      @thoughtgaming492 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      When when Jesus returns, it will return to that. Until then, though, no church is perfect. They are all incorrect about something. The only thing that matters is that you have faith in the savior.

  • @justin02199x
    @justin02199x 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I believe in One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic, Church!
    Jesus IS THE HEAD of the Church and we are His Body!
    We are part of His Mystical Body..

  • @thechudson
    @thechudson 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Happy All Saints’ Day to you all! And a reminder to my fellow Americans to stay safe during the potential election fallout we’ll see in the coming weeks