What an incredible voice and technique! His voice was already lirico-spinto here, and to do all this florid singing and death defying leaps with such volume and intensity is truly astounding. He sings Verdi at the same high level as his Rossini. He is a unique and very special artist.
So true. My masterclass teacher recently recommended this aria for me. I feel it's not suited to me as I am more of a spinto than a lyric with a heroic tendency. Hearing this gives me some reason to give the aria a try. Indeed the world has lost many tenors to time.
Ramon Vargas, maravilloso tenor mexicano. Todo lo canta perfectamente como está escrito, con una tecnica muy depurada, una voz muy bella, que transmite sentimientos. Tenor Coloratura. Uno de los mejores tenores del mundo.
Holy crap I didn't even know Ramon actually sang Don Ramiro. He's amazing with that, remembers me a bit of the great Araiza. Heroic, but still with great coloratura and varianti that he does in the second part of the cabaletta. Thanks for posting!
There are so few singers who truly achieve an effortless legato line, which is absolutely necessary for Rossini. What tenor alive today can even begin to favorably compete with Vargas as far as this is concerned? His effortless and perfect technique, coupled to breath control that is second to none and his intelligent and very believable interpretation make him one of the tenors to reckon with as the very best of the best! Bravo Vargas! You're TOPS to me!
Que fascinante, alucinante, tan lleno de adrenalina, de total nerviosismo, el echo de solo estar ahí, las miles de horas en práctica, eventos y todo la historia del individuo sas!!!, no se le puede criticar, no hay manera para nosotros los mortales, los únicos críticos serían ellos mismos los interpretes, en claro está siendo que todo en la vida es y será conocer es ponerse en práctica.
Estoy totalmente de acuerdo con tu comentario, yo tambien lo he escuchado en vivo varias veces pero todo depende de lo que cante, no dejo de considerarlo el mejor de tenor ligero de mi preferencia, hace unas semanas canto Trovatore en Toronto (y yo estuve ahi), y por supuesto, no es para su voz, fue algo decepcionante siendo que el no es un tenor spinto. Peri si "difero1988" quiere volumen, que no escuche a Rossini...! :) - No hay nadie como Vargas para interpretarlo, el es el mejor!!!
Aunque no hay que olvidar a Araiza, que aunque de otra generacion, uno de los grandes interpretes de Rossini... (Busca La Cenerentola de 1981 con el, una maravillosa interpretacion).
im so glad he is MEXICAN...like me, Mexico is exporting a lot of talents around the world like Octavio Moreno, Arturo Chacon, Ramon Vargas and Rolando Villazon.
Wow!!! I didn't know sang Don Ramiro either!!! I love his Almaviva on the Naxos Barbiere set!!! It's so good to hear a fuller voiced tenor fach singing such florid Rossini. It's amazing to see how far he's progressed into the lyrical repertoire, particularly the Massenet and Verdi! I concur, he also reminds me of Araiza. Very very stylish. Bravo Vargas!
Exacto. Considero que la agilidad vocal requerida en esta aria le dificultó un poco la cosa, fue inteligente en mantenerla a un tempo más cómodo. No obstante, la interpretación fue excelente, considerando el color de su timbre y tono de voz, claridad y brillo bellísimos. Los agudos fueron muy buenos también. Este tenor impresiona mucho.
Jussijoosua- You can still see his Nemorino in San Francisco on 11/26 if you are in the area. Otherwise, he'll be at Carnegie Hall in New York on 12/08 for the Verdi Requiem.On 12/15, he will start his run of Bohemes at the MET through early January. Then he goes to Vienna for Manon and Onegin.RV did Romeo at the Met and Houston a few years back. He's been singing a lot of Verdi and some Mozart in Europe and US too. Next season, he'll be in Berlioz' Damnation, then in Verdi's Attila at the MET.
No, he sounds wonderful. His has a fantastic Technique, his voice is perfectly preserved, thicker, warmer...the top a little warmer. Great live in the house.
He did an album early in his career of bel canto arias I think on the Claves Label?, AMAZING Rossini singing. I gave this album to a friend and now I cannot find it anywhere....
Lo dice Plácido Domingo, el lo considera el mejor tenor ligero de todos los tiempos. Yo lo he escuchado en vivo, y el que tu consideres que tiene voz pequeña no me provoca otra cosa mas que risa, hasta sus ppp resuenan hasta la fila mas alejada del auditorio.
The only tenor out there right now who could do this any justice is Larry Brownlee...but back when Vargas was still singing Rossini, he also had to contend with Francisco Araiza, and Rockwell Blake (who is the defining Rossini tenor of his/their generation, in my opinion). NO ONE could sing Rossini as cleanly as Rocky, and if I'm watching/listening to Rossini, it has to be clean.
There are TH-cam videos from user camilla0690 showing RV singing Foresto;s heaviest music, the aria and cabaletta from the Prologue. I'd be interested to know what was painful about it. RV's leaving Rossini was a blessing to the entire opera world that experienced some void created by the slowing down of Domingo and Pavarotti. Also,he was not really an exclusive Rossini specialist right from the start. He did Werther,Tamino,Edgardo,Faust,Verdi,etc.
Decir que le faltó agilidad a la interpretación se me hace una cosa ridícula. En dado caso creo que a lo que le faltó agilidad fue al comentario. Comparto tu opinión ezayi. Por cierto creo que a los que sí les faltó agilidad fue al coro. ¿Qué te parece Francisco Araiza?
You should see Francisco Araiza singing this aria. You'll notice that although Araiza's is not the greatest acting, he adds excitement to his singing which, due to his great singing technique, is never compromised. There shouls be a balance. We don't want the gross overacting of Villazón, nor the statuesque attitude of the Great Pavarotti.
Oh please... who cares if he did act or moved more. If he didn´t do it is because, or the stage director told him not to do too much or he needed to concentrate to sing this difficult aria. I think he did well.
A veces me sacan de quicio los comentarios de alguna gente. Es como si fueran sordos... o definitivamente lo son. Francisco me parecía maravilloso. Alguien me dijo un supuesto comentario suyo, que ya no sentía su voz tan ágil y por eso cambió de repertorio. Fue una pena porque debió quedarse en algo que fuera cerca del belcanto. Me gustaba muchísimo antes del cambio de repertorio.
At this point in the opera, he just dropped his comic role of the valet in disguise and assumed his princely duties. His dignified demeanor and movements are quite appropriate. Much of his acting is in the voice. I don't know how the stiff acting thing got started. I saw him crack up an audience over and over as Nemorino; I saw him jump from the floor to table tops as Hoffman a few times at every performance. He does not do a lot of arm flapping and facial distortions as cover up.
I guess the difference between Villazón and Araiza is that the later has never stopped singing due to bad technique. I have been to two of Araiza´s Cenerentola's, once as part of the cast. I´ve reviewed the scores and his tempo changes are within the style (we´re not talking Mozart´s metronomic style here) and done tastefully. I love Vargas' voice but I'd love a bit more of interpretation. Villazón RULED while he was around. I hope he'll come back understanding the limitations of his own voice.
I think Ramon´s rendition is amazing, but the opening is too fast ans although his technique is pristine he doesn´t have the flexibility of Francisco Araiza. What I certainly agree on is that he has something in common with Araiza though. Gorgeous voices and incredible acting stiffness
I totally agree that we don't want Ramon to do the horrific overacting of Villazón which just like in the case of Domingo, he uses to distract from the forcefulness of his voice production. Ramon needs to losen up a little bit and offer the whole package. The days of the singing statue are gone with the great Pavarotti. Singers need to study acting more!
Que verguenza todos los comentarios llenos de veneno hacia cantantes tan bien preparados !!!!! Suban sus videos cantando esta aria para que nosotros los critiquemos !!!!!
Exactamente... está hecho para opinar y discutir opiniones. Todavía no has contestado lo que pregunté. Y como eres tan constructivo, entonces contesta de una buena vez lo que pregunté. Eso me dice que no tienes una contestación coherente.
que comentarios tan estupidos de gente que ni siquiera sabe lo minimo del bellcanto juan diego flores y ramon vargas entre otros son los mejores rossinianos del mundo con una exelente afinacion.respiracion,linea de canto etc las agilidades vocales y los sobreagudos muy bien
Amen to that. A beautiful voice with a liric sound and singing coloratura like that. Just love him. Juan Diego, nice voice but so little, it sounds like a mosquito... I will never pay to hear him again. A waste of time and money. Very disapointing.
Not quite. He stopped because his voice was failing. In the 70s, Plácido Domingo went from Rodolfo and Alfredo, to Othello on schedules that many thought to be crazy and yet, he NEVER stopped. Domingo's technique was never the best, specially as he "covers" by rolling his tongue, yet, he continues singing. I have nothing against Villazón. As a Mexican I should be proud of him and I am! But the fact that he's proven to be his worst detractor is a fact.
What easiness and fluency! His technique is perfect. He is much better than Brownlee but not better than Juan Diego Florez, though he has a bigger voice than JDF. Florez - in my opinion - is the best in this aria and generally as Don Ramiro because in addition to his unusually beautiful voice and greatest precision his rendition is the most artistic and sensitive one and he has captivating grace. Absolute tenore di grazia.
Con toda la mierda que hablaste, a otro tal vez le hibiera dado por ir al sicólogo... pero no a mí porque realmente no me importa un carajo. SI, Vargas es más lírico que ligero pero esa es la GRAN diferencia entre él y la pequeña y ligera voz de Flores. Su agilidad espectacular para la coloratura. Cantando Rossini sobresalió entre muchos.
Mira nene... cómprate un par de orejas porque si no oyes que usa su nariz, entonces estudiar canto no te está agudizando el oído ni te está sirviendo de nada. De todos esos que mencionaste, tienes razón pero Plácido no la usa mucho y Pavarotti NO la usa PARA NADA!
Amen to that. A beautiful voice with a liric sound and singing coloratura like that. Just love him. Juan Diego, nice voice but so little, it sounds like a mosquito... I will never pay to hear him again. A waste of time and money. Very disapointing.
What an incredible voice and technique! His voice was already lirico-spinto here, and to do all this florid singing and death defying leaps with such volume and intensity is truly astounding. He sings Verdi at the same high level as his Rossini. He is a unique and very special artist.
So true.
My masterclass teacher recently recommended this aria for me. I feel it's not suited to me as I am more of a spinto than a lyric with a heroic tendency.
Hearing this gives me some reason to give the aria a try.
Indeed the world has lost many tenors to time.
Ramon Vargas, maravilloso tenor mexicano. Todo lo canta perfectamente como está escrito, con una tecnica muy depurada, una voz muy bella, que transmite sentimientos. Tenor Coloratura. Uno de los mejores tenores del mundo.
An amazing artist with incredible versatility. Beautiful voice and technique. Grossly underrated!
Wonderful.Totally awesome hearing this aria with such a full voice yet surprisingly good coloraturas. Bravo!
Holy crap I didn't even know Ramon actually sang Don Ramiro. He's amazing with that, remembers me a bit of the great Araiza. Heroic, but still with great coloratura and varianti that he does in the second part of the cabaletta. Thanks for posting!
Still the best rendition of this aria ever recorded! Love it!
IMO, Francisco Araiza has a superior interpretation of the aria.
@@dnor16 I have only love for Araiza
There are so few singers who truly achieve an effortless legato line, which is absolutely necessary for Rossini. What tenor alive today can even begin to favorably compete with Vargas as far as this is concerned? His effortless and perfect technique, coupled to breath control that is second to none and his intelligent and very believable interpretation make him one of the tenors to reckon with as the very best of the best! Bravo Vargas! You're TOPS to me!
Andre de Kock agreed.
Agree that today such tenors are few and far between. But in his heyday, there were others.
IMHO, he is just as magnificent when he sings recitatives _( "I Capuleti E I Montecchi" )._
Michael Spyres
claro, por eso es considerado uno de los mejores tenores del mundo.
excelente, el mejor junto al señor florez ambos latinos que orgullo y felicidades
beautiful. nice to hear a fuller sound from a tenor in this rep.
Que fascinante, alucinante, tan lleno de adrenalina, de total nerviosismo, el echo de solo estar ahí, las miles de horas en práctica, eventos y todo la historia del individuo sas!!!, no se le puede criticar, no hay manera para nosotros los mortales, los únicos críticos serían ellos mismos los interpretes, en claro está siendo que todo en la vida es y será conocer es ponerse en práctica.
Love this singing. That is correct production Beautiful
Estoy totalmente de acuerdo con tu comentario, yo tambien lo he escuchado en vivo varias veces pero todo depende de lo que cante, no dejo de considerarlo el mejor de tenor ligero de mi preferencia, hace unas semanas canto Trovatore en Toronto (y yo estuve ahi), y por supuesto, no es para su voz, fue algo decepcionante siendo que el no es un tenor spinto. Peri si "difero1988" quiere volumen, que no escuche a Rossini...! :) - No hay nadie como Vargas para interpretarlo, el es el mejor!!!
Aunque no hay que olvidar a Araiza, que aunque de otra generacion, uno de los grandes interpretes de Rossini... (Busca La Cenerentola de 1981 con el, una maravillosa interpretacion).
im so glad he is MEXICAN...like me, Mexico is exporting a lot of talents around the world like Octavio Moreno, Arturo Chacon, Ramon Vargas and Rolando Villazon.
And Camarena.
Francisco Araiza y Javier Camarena
de verdad q admiro a ramon vargas... su voz me encanta
Espectacular!
Love this interpitation ❤️❤️❤️
Wow!!! I didn't know sang Don Ramiro either!!! I love his Almaviva on the Naxos Barbiere set!!! It's so good to hear a fuller voiced tenor fach singing such florid Rossini. It's amazing to see how far he's progressed into the lyrical repertoire, particularly the Massenet and Verdi! I concur, he also reminds me of Araiza. Very very stylish. Bravo Vargas!
Exacto. Considero que la agilidad vocal requerida en esta aria le dificultó un poco la cosa, fue inteligente en mantenerla a un tempo más cómodo. No obstante, la interpretación fue excelente, considerando el color de su timbre y tono de voz, claridad y brillo bellísimos. Los agudos fueron muy buenos también. Este tenor impresiona mucho.
Jussijoosua- You can still see his Nemorino in San Francisco on 11/26 if you are in the area. Otherwise, he'll be at Carnegie Hall in New York on 12/08 for the Verdi Requiem.On 12/15, he will start his run of Bohemes at the MET through early January. Then he goes to Vienna for Manon and Onegin.RV did Romeo at the Met and Houston a few years back. He's been singing a lot of Verdi and some Mozart in Europe and US too. Next season, he'll be in Berlioz' Damnation, then in Verdi's Attila at the MET.
No, he sounds wonderful. His has a fantastic Technique, his voice is perfectly preserved, thicker, warmer...the top a little warmer. Great live in the house.
Waw!... Rossini ,Bellini and Donizetti the triumvirate of the Bel Canto!I love them!
He does sing this beautifully.
He did an album early in his career of bel canto arias I think on the Claves Label?, AMAZING Rossini singing.
I gave this album to a friend and now I cannot find it anywhere....
Bravissimo!
GRANDE ARTISTA BRAVO!!!
Lo dice Plácido Domingo, el lo considera el mejor tenor ligero de todos los tiempos. Yo lo he escuchado en vivo, y el que tu consideres que tiene voz pequeña no me provoca otra cosa mas que risa, hasta sus ppp resuenan hasta la fila mas alejada del auditorio.
ya quisiera Juan diego con la voz de mosquito tener el volumen y la belleza de la voz de Ramón Vargas.
Aquí en TH-cam. Está la versión con Cecilia Bartoli, hay otra con Elina Garanca y otra con Joyce DiDonato. Espero que todavía te sirva.
Should have continued to sing this rep
The only tenor out there right now who could do this any justice is Larry Brownlee...but back when Vargas was still singing Rossini, he also had to contend with Francisco Araiza, and Rockwell Blake (who is the defining Rossini tenor of his/their generation, in my opinion). NO ONE could sing Rossini as cleanly as Rocky, and if I'm watching/listening to Rossini, it has to be clean.
Bravo Vargas!!!! Does anyone have his first bel canto disc? It is no longer available. I would love for those to be out on youtube!!!
Amazing
he is amazing and better live.
This rendition is up there with Brownlee's and Florez's
There are TH-cam videos from user camilla0690 showing RV singing Foresto;s heaviest music, the aria and cabaletta from the Prologue. I'd be interested to know what was painful about it. RV's leaving Rossini was a blessing to the entire opera world that experienced some void created by the slowing down of Domingo and Pavarotti. Also,he was not really an exclusive Rossini specialist right from the start. He did Werther,Tamino,Edgardo,Faust,Verdi,etc.
You are saying that the aria is cut because he did not sing mai da guidar, si si..?
He should keep this repertory for him
¡Magritte!
Alguien sabe donde puedo encontrar la opera completa online?
Why does this guy think he needs to add even more coloratura to rossini he wrote the book on it
Decir que le faltó agilidad a la interpretación se me hace una cosa ridícula. En dado caso creo que a lo que le faltó agilidad fue al comentario. Comparto tu opinión ezayi. Por cierto creo que a los que sí les faltó agilidad fue al coro. ¿Qué te parece Francisco Araiza?
Should have stayed with this repertoire. His Foresto in the Attilaat the Met was painful.
You should see Francisco Araiza singing this aria. You'll notice that although Araiza's is not the greatest acting, he adds excitement to his singing which, due to his great singing technique, is never compromised. There shouls be a balance. We don't want the gross overacting of Villazón, nor the statuesque attitude of the Great Pavarotti.
Oh please... who cares if he did act or moved more. If he didn´t do it is because, or the stage director told him not to do too much or he needed to concentrate to sing this difficult aria. I think he did well.
@MachinGone73 Alucinaciones.
A veces me sacan de quicio los comentarios de alguna gente. Es como si fueran sordos... o definitivamente lo son.
Francisco me parecía maravilloso. Alguien me dijo un supuesto comentario suyo, que ya no sentía su voz tan ágil y por eso cambió de repertorio. Fue una pena porque debió quedarse en algo que fuera cerca del belcanto. Me gustaba muchísimo antes del cambio de repertorio.
At this point in the opera, he just dropped his comic role of
the valet in disguise and assumed his princely duties. His dignified demeanor and movements are quite appropriate. Much of his acting is in the voice. I don't know how the stiff acting thing got started. I saw him crack up an audience over and over as Nemorino; I saw him jump from the floor to table tops as Hoffman a few times at every performance. He does not do a lot of arm flapping and facial distortions as cover up.
I guess the difference between Villazón and Araiza is that the later has never stopped singing due to bad technique. I have been to two of Araiza´s Cenerentola's, once as part of the cast. I´ve reviewed the scores and his tempo changes are within the style (we´re not talking Mozart´s metronomic style here) and done tastefully. I love Vargas' voice but I'd love a bit more of interpretation. Villazón RULED while he was around. I hope he'll come back understanding the limitations of his own voice.
I think Ramon´s rendition is amazing, but the opening is too fast ans although his technique is pristine he doesn´t have the flexibility of Francisco Araiza. What I certainly agree on is that he has something in common with Araiza though. Gorgeous voices and incredible acting stiffness
@javichoau Perdón, pero qué comentario tan bobo. A mí me gustan los dos y ámbos son muy diferentes.
Y atras el coro de los "vendedores de puerta en puerta" jajaja
the translation is all wrong
I totally agree that we don't want Ramon to do the horrific overacting of Villazón which just like in the case of Domingo, he uses to distract from the forcefulness of his voice production. Ramon needs to losen up a little bit and offer the whole package. The days of the singing statue are gone with the great Pavarotti. Singers need to study acting more!
EL MAS GRANDE EN TIMBRE ,TECNICA ESTILO
EL POCO VALORADO.
FRANCISCO ARAIZA.......
A PARTIR DE AHI EL RESTO ACEPTABLES...😒
Que verguenza todos los comentarios llenos de veneno hacia cantantes tan bien preparados !!!!! Suban sus videos cantando esta aria para que nosotros los critiquemos !!!!!
Exactamente... está hecho para opinar y discutir opiniones. Todavía no has contestado lo que pregunté. Y como eres tan constructivo, entonces contesta de una buena vez lo que pregunté. Eso me dice que no tienes una contestación coherente.
que comentarios tan estupidos de gente que ni siquiera sabe lo minimo del bellcanto juan diego flores y ramon vargas entre otros son los mejores rossinianos del mundo con una exelente afinacion.respiracion,linea de canto etc las agilidades vocales y los sobreagudos muy bien
Amen to that. A beautiful voice with a liric sound and singing coloratura like that. Just love him.
Juan Diego, nice voice but so little, it sounds like a mosquito... I will never pay to hear him again. A waste of time and money. Very disapointing.
Ouch...the high notes are...high indeed. I'd almost say to high for him...It's still a wonder for me someone can sing Rossini, Verdi and Puccini...
Es muy facil criticar: Ya me gustaria verlos con una partitura al frente y un pianista esperando que canten, se que se moririan.
Not quite. He stopped because his voice was failing. In the 70s, Plácido Domingo went from Rodolfo and Alfredo, to Othello on schedules that many thought to be crazy and yet, he NEVER stopped. Domingo's technique was never the best, specially as he "covers" by rolling his tongue, yet, he continues singing. I have nothing against Villazón. As a Mexican I should be proud of him and I am! But the fact that he's proven to be his worst detractor is a fact.
@mediterraneo1000 tediosa??, si como no, esa ni tu te la crees
Pues estas sordo. Cual fue la "agilidad requerida" que le dificulto un poco la cosa?
There are some false sounds, but generally he is very good
2 words : Lawrence Brownlee....
@mediterraneo1000 no se puede comparar un genio como JDF con este pues...
What easiness and fluency! His technique is perfect. He is much better than Brownlee but not better than Juan Diego Florez, though he has a bigger voice than JDF. Florez - in my opinion - is the best in this aria and generally as Don Ramiro because in addition to his unusually beautiful voice and greatest precision his rendition is the most artistic and sensitive one and he has captivating grace. Absolute tenore di grazia.
Perdone, pero de verdad Ud no sabe lo dice.
Lawrence Brownlee beats them.
Con toda la mierda que hablaste, a otro tal vez le hibiera dado por ir al sicólogo... pero no a mí porque realmente no me importa un carajo. SI, Vargas es más lírico que ligero pero esa es la GRAN diferencia entre él y la pequeña y ligera voz de Flores. Su agilidad espectacular para la coloratura. Cantando Rossini sobresalió entre muchos.
si. florez se oye como mosquito constipado
juan diego flrez tiene voz de mosquito constipado. presion que le llega hasta la nariz.
@javichoau jdf un genio? en que es genio ni siquiera ha evolucionado su voz es tediosa
florez voz de mosquito constipado
Gracias... siempre lo pense. Realmente nunca me gusto.
Mira nene... cómprate un par de orejas porque si no oyes que usa su nariz, entonces estudiar canto no te está agudizando el oído ni te está sirviendo de nada. De todos esos que mencionaste, tienes razón pero Plácido no la usa mucho y Pavarotti NO la usa PARA NADA!
Still not as good as Luigi Alva ..
Amen to that. A beautiful voice with a liric sound and singing coloratura like that. Just love him.
Juan Diego, nice voice but so little, it sounds like a mosquito... I will never pay to hear him again. A waste of time and money. Very disapointing.