Thanks for asking: Front end nerves, race or road shift, how to become a road tester and more.
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 4 ก.ค. 2024
- Hello! In today's video:
00:00 - Intro
03:45 - Race or road shift?
08:00 - Best kit bag?
09:40 - Should you put your lid in the hold?
11:49 - Front end nerves
17:34 - Van or trailer for trackdays?
19:09 - How to become a road tester - ยานยนต์และพาหนะ
It was an absolutely pleasure chatting Michael and thanks so much for the shout out 👍
Chops.... top channel
Terry Rymer told me to follow him on a Thruxton Steve Parish track day in the 90s. He went round Campbell, forgot he was on a road bike and changed down, instead of up, locked the back wheel and came flying off the bike!
Mr. Neevsey, you sir are an exceptional human being. So humble and a way of communicating that is second to none. Really enjoy your channel. Listening to your knowledge and your take on the various subjects related to our passion for riding 2 wheels is always riveting. Thank you for the time and effort you put in for our benefit. Cheers from CT USA
Thanks for the kind words. Cheque’s in the post 😊👍
Can we all agree to just refer to the tourer Suzuki's as 1000GT & 1000GX, because its full title is such a mouth full ;-)
The last questioner hasn't got hundreds of millions of views. The most any of his videos has got is less than 4000. He has less than 4000 subscribers. Good Q&A, thanks Michael.
not defending him, it's still a lie, but that's only on youtube. he has 40k followers on instagram and gets more than 10k views on most of those reels. he's posted 12 this month alone. that's not hundreds of millions but it's more than 4000. his two tiktoks have 15k and 25k views. maybe he's deleted others, who knows. tiktok can be quite insane with the one hit wonders, i can believe one million, or even two, but several hundred million has to be a flat out lie.
@@babyfknblu I'm sure it's a typo.
@@davidellis2021 hahaha i hope so. although i wouldn't want someone who can't tell the difference between 126,000 and 126 million telling me about moto specs
@@babyfknbluyou obviously haven’t seen the new Ducati with 2000hp then…
He wouldn't even be asking that question if those claimed views were legit, weird.
I hired vans for a while but as I live in the sticks it soon became a real pain to have to pickup the van the evening before the trackday. Drive it 30 minutes home, load it, do the day, come home, unload it, get up early the next day to get it back to the depot first thing and avoid extra charges.
My solution was a box trailer - super low loading, keeps the bike dry and away from prying eyes. All my kit can stay in there so no loading/unloading. Just hook it up and off we go. I’m lucky enough to have a building it can be locked away in too. The only downside is when I move home a secure place to store the trailer will make choice of property difficult.
When you move home a choice of property will be difficult??? Your choosing a property..... At home??? No one understands how you can move... home? For all people I know, home is where your home is. You can't move into where you already live you crumpet 😂😂😂
It's so enlightening and pleasurable listening to a true professional who takes the time to pass on his experience.
These are fantastic episodes. I love listening to Neeves talk about motorcycling. Thanks!
The Janet and John line had me in stitches. Showing your age there matey.
Covert Mecha what a dreamer 🤣🤣
Looked him up.
Riding an old Gixxer, 3.2K subs, most videos have 2-3k views average per vid.
267 000 000 views/month, what?? Hahaha
I don't get why people these days put up stories like that when everything is trackable...
Anyway nice response Michael!
Love your work..
Interesting video as usual!
Always fantastic, enjoying these videos a great deal.
Packing helmets ?, inside of the helmets always good to pack under garments, t shirts pants etc. Plastic bag on the way back 😁 as for pushing front end grip, King Kenny 👑 said, no one ever lost the front end while on the gas 🤓 some interesting questions
11:49 Front end grip. We've all seen racers lose the front end and low side. Scary. There are two cases you need to consider separately. Trail braking up to the apex. Firing it out to the corner exit. The traction circle is helping you out in both cases. Trail braking up to the apex. The front tire IS heavily loaded. It has braking force and centrifugal force. They add in vector fashion at the contact patch. Racing is about pushing to 100% and this is a real danger area. Firing it out to the exit, the front wheel isn't being braked or driven. It just has centrifugal force. If it will make you feel better, you CAN wheelie through a turn. Camber thrust just on the rear wheel will keep you turning. You have to use old school lean right/left to steer. Sluggish. Trials riders and stunt riders do this all the time. Test this out on dirt bike in a nice soft area. You want enough grip on the front tire for effective steering. The front tire is also stabilizing (giving a fulcrum for) rear wheel power on oversteer heading to the corner exit.
7 years ago when i bought a ducati 749 that had race shift, and every bike since ive converted to race shift, feels much more natural and instinctive.
plus after selling the ducati i got sick of having to consciously remember to go the other way every single time, so swapped it over and every one since
i dont see why all manufactures haven't adopted it as the standard way to do it.
Another week’s passed already, another great video!
Janet and John? Blimey... theres a blast from the past.... Roger red hat an all that...
Thanks for your response Neevesy
That was really quality and I got a lot out of it
The two big tracks I ride at are Eastern Creek in Sydney and Phillip Island in Victoria. Both have some pretty high speed sweeping turns that you can really push a front on but I think a change in body position is going to make a big difference. I'll chase down some instruction and let you know ✊️
Great channel thanks
Awesome video! I do enjoy these very much and even though I don't ride track I always get something out of them. Your sense of humor on that last question was hilarious. Great questions. Best!
Hi Michael. not so much bike as logistics related question. How do you structure your days? You go to launches, you do videos, you write, you probably have admin tasks at MCN and you find the time to regularly share with us - free of charge! - your knowledge and experience. And that is not taking into account your personal life. You come across as such a relaxed guy. I'd be puuling off my hairs if I had to do all that. Cheers. BTW, my offer for a pitstop in Toulouse next time you are around still stands 🙂
Micheal-I’m a perfect customer for Ducati to sell a Multistrada V4 to, but I tend to turn my nose up at one with a 19” wheel. Part of it is is that as a lifelong sportsbike rider I want to be able to fit my bikes with cutting edge tires and still act like I’m in my 20’s, but another large part of it is that I kind of feel like Ducati has been stratifying their product a bit to force you to spend the extra kidney to get something like a Pike’s Peak or RS. That alone makes me want to look at something like an S1000XR or this new GSX1000GX.
Speaking of which, I’m also a perfect customer for the GX….. I still have my K5 GSXR from new and love it still. But I have reservations about how they bandy about how these K5 based bikes are so closely related to the old K5….. I’ve ridden a few and they just aren’t the same animal-yes, the midrange is there, but overall power deliver is not, nor is the throttling…
Which brings me to a question for you-Why does it seem like the Japanese manufacturers are afraid to make a proper super-naked? Wouldn’t it be smarter for a company like Suzuki to build out a monster of a bike with a current GSXR VVT engine, strip the bodywork off, add handlebars and shorten the gearing than keep tugging on the nostalgia of the K5? Everyone who has wanted a K5 based bike now has had one-wouldn’t it be better to try selling a bike that’s competitive with the Streetfighters, Speed Triples, Superdukes, and S1000’s out there for closer to GSXR prices than keep making cheap and cheerful parts bike specials based on 18 year old bikes?
I travel with a helmet from time to time. I used a hard case specifically designed for helmets and it gives me a lot more piece of mind.
Kovert Mecha.. his videos average 100-3000 views… not sure where the millions have come from 🤦🏼
Wonderful video as always , totally agree about the multi v4 not having a 17 inch wheel , I recently bought a 1260 multi because of this , maybe in the future ducati will offer it as an option . I met chopsy on one of the california sbk school days , nice guy , do watch his videos. The ogeo bags are amazing, I recently bought one before my trip to ladakh. Amazing tip about front wheel grip , any chance u will be instructing somewhere Again 😀 ?
We love you.
Race shift? I ride old Brit bikes with right foot shift, one of which has up for down shift, and the other up for up shift. I also ride modern bikes with left foot shift; no problem.
I think KovertMecha is asking how to end up on bike launches like Lamb Chops, rather than becoming a tester for a bike magazine. Well I guess you have to build an organic following at first, by producing content that people actually want to watch and engage with. From there - if your content is both good and entertaining enough (and a lot of that is down to personality I think) - the word will spread and people in the industry will also start watching. After four years and over 300 videos posted, I'm still trying to reach step one 😁
I am sound engineer in my company for recording audio. I like mcn the most. This thanks for asking show is top!!! tnx. but, advice. put some insulation material on walls, you will have much better sound. this mic is omnidirectional and pickup sound from wall. or use izotope rx audio plugins. thanks for the selfless sharing of knowledge
I attended the Haslam race school some years ago and had the pleasure of your tuition on the Elites, thanks Neevesy. You were brilliant. And the vids are great too.
Hi mate, those were the days. Shame the school is no more… Hope you’re well?
+1 for race shift on track. pulling out of corners and not having to thread my foot under the shifter while at lean made a huge difference
Thank you for creating this series, it has quickly become some of my favorite motorcycle content on TH-cam.
How do you rate the importance of ABS on a road bike? I rode for years without ABS and I’ve never actually engaged my front wheel ABS riding on the road (that I’m aware of). But, I get that it is there in case of emergency stopping - I guess I’ve just been lucky. I've had ABS on my last several bikes, and once you have something it can be hard to give it up! The reason I'm asking is because I’m considering a new GSXR750 (I’m in Canada) based on your glowing reviews of it. The only thing that would push me towards a different bike would be the lack of ABS. Also, I ride a lot in the rain! Thanks again.
Ogio makes a giant version, the Rig T-3, which is large enough for a track suit (instead of motocross gear), boots, and a helmet. It comes with a good, oversized helmet bag and a (too-big) boot case. I pack gloves and other soft pieces around and in the helmet, to utilize all the space and to further cushion the helmet. The overall case is very heavy, though.
Race shift makes a lot of sense on powerful bikes on the road. Its much nicer to press down when accelerating hard than pull up. Super Dukes have the option to change from road to race pattern with less than 5 minutes work. The only thing I find you need to watch for is accidently hooking 1st when you put the side stand up. I've never gone the wrong way as for some reason it feels more natural than road pattern.
Hi Neevesy.
Thanks again for your great content. I always learn something new every time I listen to you. Had a quick question / proposal for you...
Have you considered exporting this content to a podcast platform (Spotify, Apple Podcasts, etc)?
I feel that just the audio would make it ideal to listen to your Q&A sessions and instantly make it available to more people who might be on the go.
Thanks again.
Nice to know my 1960 BSA 650 has race shift, 1up 3down on the right. No problem changing over to conventional left shift. Must be muscle memory.😊
Interesting answers today. Couple of quick comments. I noticed few testers (excluding Simon Hargreaves) mentioned the Kawasaki Versys 1000 as a comparable bike to the new Suzuki 1000GX. Seems very similar to me but hey ho, waddae I know.
On race shift. Back in the days when you could rock upto a race track on a weekday, pay £15 or whatever and test your race bike for an afternoon. (Or was that just Knockhill...!?) My brother was practicing on his KR1 and me helping hold the stop watch. Lo and behold he says, wanna go? So I grab the bike. Trainers, jeans and multiple wolly jumpers on (you've been to Knockhill, right?). And head off down pit lane with the words ringing in my ears, "one up and five down." !! Made it all the way round to the straight and, determined to give it some up passed the pits... yup, 3rd to 2nd. Thirty years later and I can still hear the scream of ring, ding, ding now and what I thought the look on my brother's face was. Oh well, that was the end of my track riding.
Apologies for the second comment but I just had to ask this question:
A friend of mine was recently given the following piece of advice: He was told not to upgrade to a bigger motorcycle until he can ride his current 600cc motorcycle without any electronic aids such as traction control, wheelie control, etc. This, would apply for both track day riding, as well as everyday street riding.
Curious to hear your thoughts... Thanks again for the amazing content.
Great video boss. I’ll never forget as a green sixteen year old I worked at a Suzuki dealer and you were testing the k5 gsxr though for mcn. You came into the shop after an oil filter for it. I told you we hadn’t received them in stock as yet as the bike was a new model. You asked if I knew who you were to which I replied no I don’t but should I? You were rather disgruntled to say the least 😂😂😂. Love the content chief
Hi Josh, good to hear from you - you've got a good memory! I must've been racing it at the time to want an oil filter. Which Suzuki dealer were you working at?
Stamford superbikes when it was in Stamford. They were fresh out when you visited we were waiting on service items to come into stock we hadn’t even done a first service on one. The k5 is a good looking bike I never rode one but in the blue and white they looked mint.
I hope I wasn’t too grumpy - apologies if I was! They’re still cracking bikes now. I hope you’re doing well 👍😊
I wouldn’t have said grumpy more in a tearing hurry. Very well thanks boss you need to get over to mabo beach racing to do a vid. I’ll stretch for a brew 👍🏿
Sounds dangerous! 😄
Love your videos, very informative. I was wondering which motorcycle’s do you think have the most “talkative” front ends?
Thanks for your question, Tim. I answered that very question a few videos ago. Have a look...Cheers M
I think the paper versions of MCN and others will not go 100% on line for the foreseeable, particularly as back issues are now becoming collectable and worth money to collectors etc, great post as usual Neevesy, thanks
I think there's a huge difference between a motorcycle journalist and someone who just does straight line puls on a Florida highway
hi from Croatia
very good to see table of contest in video description and timeline.👍
now, questions. lean angle fear and practicing on parking lot doing 8. was this good way? i ask because i crash in decreasing radius corner. i brake instead to lean more.
how you will compare k5 1000 with for example newer 200hp bikes? k5/k6 now have very high price. i have before s1000rr 2016 and now have k5. i love k5 same for 4x lower money. my friend with lot of experience tell me that price is not equal to enjoyment and that this older bikes have something/soul.
thanks neevesy, these videos are balm for my office-confined soul. also, i wanted to know, since i'm doing my first test on my race bike next weekend - am i too old to ever be competitive? i remember you saying you were in your early 20s when you'd crashed on your 250, and after 6 years came back and are still at least competitive in the classes you race in till this day. i'm 26, training my ass off for my first season in 6 months... do i have any hope at all of at least holding my own in amateur classes? dare i even ask about the 19 year old pros with 15 years of experience?
Depends on your definition of competitive. Running at the front? Unlikely. Doing respectable lap times mid pack? Absolutely! Having a great time? Guaranteed!
Brilliant, yet again, thank you very much! My question please; do you know if Honda ever race with DCT? To me on the road it appears a no brainer BUT?
Great stuff, very useful and informative. Cheers from the states. 👍🤪🏳️🌈
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Hi! I'm really sorry to hear you got your bike stolen in Naples. I know you love visiting Italy (I'm from lake Como) and I hope the experience hasn't soured you (much) with Italy. I hope to see you back next year! Also, when and where did you do your first "big bike trip"? Thanks and all the best!
Hi!
Which bikes/bike type have the best handling and cornering speed?
- Superbikes, Naked bikes or Supermotards?
I drive a 2022 S1000RR myself, but felt that my previous Aprilia Tuono 660 Factory had just as good cornering speed on the road whilst pushing on a nice B road.
The question is purely in regard to handling and cornering speed. Obviously a superbike is faster in a straight line and a motard is better at jumps etc.
Hi Michael, some touring bikes like multistrada and new m1000xr come with carbon wheels. Do manufacturers talk about the weight capacity on these wheels with a pillion and luggage? Id assume its been considered and engineered accordingly however theres no data available anywhere about its max load
The normal Multi has an enduro mode, seems the reason for the 19” wheel. No such thing on the Pikes. I own both.
Hi Neevsey, I've been riding the same bike (RSV4) at the track for 9 years. I have not upgraded anything on the bike (other than tyres and brakepads) to confirm that any progression or regression in laptimes is 100% on me. I've taken a fair few lessons but seem to have hit a brick wall. I know that there's at least another 5 seconds a lap in the bike based on what Lorenzo Savadori did on a showroom stock bike with headlights, mirrors and indicators during a 2015 trackday while (probably) not pushing any limits.
As a "normal" rider that does 6-8 weekends a year at the track, at what point should I be content and allow myself to throw some parts at the bike, because honestly, the temptation is very strong.
Sorry to butt in, but I think after 9 years of no mods you have to realise how much you are missing out on. Experimenting with different setups and enhancements is all part of the fun in the quest for lower times.
@@MrDeepseadweller Completely fair argument. I have got my suspension setup by a race mechanic and made small adjustments to it over the years, just like I've dabbled with different electronic settings and tyre pressures. But when it comes to performance parts, I'm just biased towards maxing out my own capabilities before trying to make the bike faster.
I'd probably go 2-3 seconds faster on a 2023 Panigale V4, easy. But making the bike faster kind of just defeats the purpose of what I'm trying to do here. :)
Front end grip is far better than 99% of all of us. One crashes because one has fucked up.
Love Lamb chops.great channel.so are 44 teeth.but neeves is the peak
Hey Neevsey. Im a dedicated track day rider and my pace is usually around mid pack in the fast group. So given my pace the question im going to ask might seem strange but I've heard you talk in the past a little about using "v" shaped point and shoot lines vs "u" shaped flowing lines. Ive heard other people like alberto naska talk about it as well and it seems simple enough on paper but when it comes to execution, I find it hard to tell if I'm doing it correctly or if I'm using a u shaped line. And although Im on a litre bike, I find that when I intentionally try to have the bike standing up earlier in an attempt to open the throttle sooner my lap times increase in comparison to when i carry a little more speed and just aim for a good exit with a smoother more progressive roll on. So my question has multiple layers, firstly, are there ways to tell if you're using more of a "V" or a "U" line while youre on the bike? Secondly how do you go about figuring out if the bike you on is better suited to the "v" or "u" line? Thirdly once you know which type of line youre using, how would you go about making changes if you want to adopt the other line (be it "v" or "u"). Lastly, how does the whole "v" vs "u" shape line apply to corners such as fast 90 degree corners as I've heard Simon crafar say that the method of a late turn squared off approach sacrifices too much speed on the entry on these types of corners. Thank you for doing these q&a's. Your episodes of wisdom are much appreciated.
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Quick question about the front end. I had a set of Dunlop Alpha 13’s on my zx10r, the recommended tyre pressure🎉 for those tyres was 32psi, on this video I’m going to link to the front tyre was about 28 cold, anyway as you see in the video the front tyre folds, well felt like as it suddenly dips down while leaning over, so I had to stand the bike up, anyway here’s the vid th-cam.com/video/ejsYWtPKWuU/w-d-xo.htmlsi=5FQFEZ2HktzGbUFv
A question about my new Triumph Street Triple if I may. I’m planning a trip to Switzerland this summer and whilst there I may encounter rain. People are telling me that the Supercorsas that the bike comes with are not so good in the rain and also that they might not make the whole trip as I’d be doing close to 4000km. I’ve done the same trip with Bridgestone S21’s, S22’s and Pirelli Diablo 4’s on my previous bike, and MT09SP and had no issues, so I could go with those tires but maybe you could suggest a better tire that fits the dynamic of the STRS better. Maybe Metzeler M9RR’s?
…and now there’s the new Bridgestone S23! What am going to choose???
I’ve always wondered why motorbike chose 1N23456 why not N123456
Hello Mr. Neevesy, need you help. Can not choose a bike. Want to do adventure riding, as my work alows me to visit great places in Central - Western Europe. Currently i'm based in Cologne, Germany and will stay here for two - maybe more years until my motorsport contract will be over. I want and my heart wants 2024 Honda Africa Twin (not adventure sports), but here is a catch... Mainly I will be doing 95% of my travels or tarmac (roads). As Germany, Belgium, Holand, France, Austria, Swiss do not have many gravel roads. Then my friends offer me to buy GS1250 or new 1300, which is more expensive. And then at Honda dealership I found 2023 Gold Wing (badger or bagger)... still had no test drive on it, but sat on it and it felt amazing. So... what to choose? Future investment for off road capabilities 24' Africa Twin, or more expensive Gold Wing and keep it for rest of my life... and why the hell people buy super expensive GS for riding on tarmac, when ther is Gold Wing or BMW K series like Gold Wing... for looks and karma points, that they do offroad on GS - what they dont do 99%, or realy GS better bike for road travels than real tourers?
Do you have a link for the podcast? I couldn't find it on Spotify.
Hi mate, I'm not sure what platform the podcast was on, but you can also see/hear it on the BVG YT channel.
I had a multi v4, until last week.. there were a few niggles with it , aren’t there always? , the main one being , the lack of feel on the front brake , it was just like there was a pocket of air in the system, no real “bite” to the front brake , the rear was err also kind of Italian rear brakey , it went back to Ducati where the manager confirmed (after pulling the lever to what seemed like almost back to the throttle grip) , new fluid required (it was 2 years old) so who was I to argue , ok I said , great! , proceed sir , I rode off on the loan multi v4s which straight away I felt had more feel to the front brake.
At this point I would also like to address the 19” front .. its not bad I know they steepened the rake to compensate for the gyroscopic effect the larger wheel has and to some extent it did work , but.., to me it was a little like putting a plaster on a wound that really needed stitches , it kind of worked but wasn’t really the answer , it was a still a little vague and with the lack of no steering damper the front used to shake a bit to (not as scary as the zh2 I had) I wanted my mummy quite a few times on that when it was on the stop .. 💩 anyway ..: back to it. Upon return the bike i rode away was defiantly better although devoid of that bite stylemas should offer, I think it may be down the abs unit or maybe the systems incorporation of the adaptive cruise .. I mean if you happen to apply the brake alongside the application of the radar braking it was night and day , it was so powerful almost like it should be from the stylemas, maybe some of the systems power was diverted through this system, I have no idea but it was a real niggle , I totally agree with you , the v4s should really have had the 17” front wheel , like it’s predecessor I also had…,weather it was to compete with the gs as being able tackle the occasional bit of turf alongside the tarmac who knows ? With the rally version now in the wild I take it homologation for this model would not have been needed?… I also observe for the IAM and got a st13 for the job , unbelievably the front brake on my 20 year old pan has more bite , it’s also obviously a tourer which kind of justified where I am going with this .. I thought I’d use the pan for touring and the iam stuff and I got a cracking deal on a 1290 superduke r , I got 3k off the list price and a bit more and it has the track pack and 4 years warranty and it’s the evo and I got a chunk of money back , in comparison the superduke feels like a kids toy, for me it’s the ultimate fun bike, having such a huge amount of power low down makes for a great road bike and yes the front brake is amazing !! I can also have my cake and eat it with rubber , so I totally agree in a long convoluted story alongside your statement yes Ducati did shoot themselves in the foot with the 19” front wheel , it’s a little devoid of feel from the front end compared to the 17” rivals it has its definitely more gyroscopic.
I wish vans were more popular in the U.S. Basically only businesses and hippies have them here and our selection sucks.
I have a question which I bet you've never been asked before - do you know of any organisations that run track days for people who have absolutely no desire to be a hero, rub a knee or knuckle on the tarmac or otherwise pretend to be riding in a video game? I would love to go around a track but would be terrified of damaging my motorcycle (FZ6 in lovely condition), damaging myself or ruining someone else's day by pootling around and getting in their way. I am sure many of your followers will be scratching their heads at the idea of gently going around a track at 40mph instead of 140mph, but we're all built different eh?
Hey. I'm with you. I would like to go round a track for fun and the lack of fear about oncoming traffic and blind people pulling out of side roads etc. But have no need to "push" it. I have no desire to risk my nice new bike, nor the cash to throw at a track bike. The impression I get of most track day riders is wannabe hero racers with too much to prove, so I stay away.
@@jonathanmackie4884 I am gald that I am not the only one. I did wonder if I would get burned on the comments for being a bit weird. But, yes, I would love the experience of going around a track with no heroics or anyone wanting to show me how oh so amazing they are.
Hey Neevesy don’t you check in your motorcycle gear in as “sporting equipment” I always check my car racing equipment in as sporting equipment and the airlines take it and it doesn’t come off my personal baggage.
Anyone can become a road tester now. Just hassle your local dealerships to let you test ride their entire stock. Then make a load of generic and fairly shallow comments about said bikes, taking particular care not to slag off the bike so the dealer refuses to give you anymore rides. After some crappy editing, upload the videos on youtube and there you go. Easy!
I feel attacked 😂
I feel like that one accident is not ur fault he was irresponsible driver
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To answer the bloke asking about how to get into reviewing bikes etc the answer is simple... Be an average looking female that rides a bike! They get invited to everything.
I never understand why guys ride with gp shift on the street 😂 makes no sense
Is GP-shift necessarily any better or worse than the standard road-shift pattern for the road?
If you start and end in 1st gear, you have shifted up and shifted down exactly the same numbers of time, so it doesn't really affect street-use in any meaningful way unless I'm unaware of some ergonomic advantages.
@@AyushSharma-xp5ew the best thing was when I worked at an aprilia dealer some of the rsv4’s would be in gp shift so when the tech had to test ride it he would be like wtf?!?! 😂
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