A little bit too open minded and positive... I mean how can they even look at a fat sows and think everyone is different. I say burn the pigs and feed them to dogs. Being fat is a disease.
Shawnie Storer That sounds like a lie to me... If in Japan they have up to H cup size, then in Korea they have C for sure. However, an european B is a japanese D-E (depending on the brand) for example. And they measure you if you’re not sure, I believe the same method applies to Korea as well.
"how is that body shape possible?" lots, and lots, of surgery. don't beat yourself up about not having her body type when a lot of it is surgery and photoshop. she used to be very skinny with no curves initially.
@@ihateyou1484 Not really. I just find it stupid to use a word that is usually used to show affection in a condescending manner. Language is always changing, which and that's why words that were fine to say before might not be these days. I don't want some shithead to ruin what we've got.
@@sivanabanana889 I don't think someone would've split in 2 from one unless that's what you aim to do. It is possible to get a very small waist but it involves years of waist training (which pushes organs down so yeah that is unhealthy). However corsets when fitted properly can actually be more comfortable than bras- had a friend who wore one instead of a bra for most of high school and she swore by it. Knew another girl who did waist training for a while but got bored of it. It's just a matter of having common sense, and not buying a cheap mass-produced costume corset and getting a proper undergarment one.
Also wearing corsets were not unhealthy. They might be uncomfortable and you can’t do certain movements, but if you could even afford to wear a full corset you didn’t move around much anyway. And corsets helped with keeping your back straight as well do they were pretty useful I think.
@@NutellaDotNet I am sorry to inform you that they were very unhealthy :they break your bones or deform them (they can perfor the lungs) and deform the internal organs. This only if is taken to extrimes (to deform your body). A lot of womens in those days used corsets iven in pregnancy (becouse it was not accepted by society to have the belly) and consequence deaths or deformities in bebies raised up.
Now a days alot of women wear bras for shirts in summer. No matter body size. And underwear is underwear, boyshorts, or thongs. And for the extreme cases of sexuality the leather for bdsm people. We are a free spirit nation and we have no fear in showing off what our mamas gave us.
debunking corsets: just like today most people "photoshoped" their photos back than. They didn't wear them as tight as we see on most photos (depicting known women, so of course they were photoshoped), the corset would be worn over a protective layer as not to cause skin irritation and wold be designed to support and carry the weight of the breasts on most of the whole upper body. They would also "break in" their newly purchased corsets much like we still do with high heels. Yes, cases of "extreme tight-lacers" sure existed but it was about as common as extreme plastic surgeries cases today. You have to keep in mind that corsets weren't worn to make you pretty but to support and hide your chest. Because I know a lot of you ladies out there don't want their Cs Ds and up cups just hanging there, making your daily tasks more difficult to accomplish.
@@aximaysosa8885 even as a smaller chest person I can tell you that I can never properly adjust my bra to fit but not be uncomfortable, so I stick to no bra or sports bra most of the time but I know a few bigger chested girls who wore modern corsets under their prom dresses and were completely okay with the support and all. A lot of people think that "big" girls wear corsets to be more slim. Although it might also be a factor if I was plus size I really wouldn't want bra stripes digging into my flesh and going in the dress without bra probably wouldn't be an option. pretty much the only downside to corsets is the extra layer that creates extra heat
Back in the corset days, they used to “edit the pictures” of the women by painting the pictures so the photos of the corseted women were most likely altered and usually the waists were not that skinny in day to day life
Those corset photos are very misleading, for they are all edited. They would paint around the edges of the black background to make the waist smaller. Either way, tightlacing was just an Edwardian fad and it’s not really what corsets were for. They were more used as just an earlier form of the bra to provide structure and get a certain silhouette. Most Victorian women only reduced their east size by a couple of inches or not even at all if they had a working job where they had to move around a lot. While slim waists, were the beauty standard (as they still are), it just wasn’t practical to tightlace, which is why most women didn’t do it. I own an Edwardian corset and it really isn’t very uncomfortable. I wear it when I dress historically and I don’t pull it very tightly at all. In fact, the most uncomfortable thing about it is how hot it makes my torso to the point that I’m sweating a little. Anyway, I know people probably won’t see this comment anyway. I just wanted to prove that there are a lot of modern myths about corsetry, for women definitely weren’t “destroying their bodies.” Women didn’t view corsets as oppressive; they viewed them the same way modern women view bras: just a part of your underwear. That’s it.
Those photos of the corsetted ladies were painted to make their waist look smaller, even in Victorian times women didn't torture themselves with corsets, they were fitted and they were made to be comfortable
Don't know your history well do you? Those things were made to be tight. Women had fainting spells back then because of them. Part of the reason why men today think women are weak and should just stay at home.
@@geophoenix8789 I do know my history thank you very much, the majority of women didn't have the luxury of staying home and doing nothing, and guess what, they were still wearing corsets, why else would the symington collections most popular corset be called "the pretty housemaid", corsets were part of being proper back then. Most women, especially working women weren't fainting, the fainting has two believed origins that have more proof than the corset theory, number one: they were literally surrounded by poisen, from the paint on their walls to the dyes of their dresses and the makeup on their faces, arsenic, lead and mercury were common ingredients for all of those back then, women who wore makeup and stayed indoors more were more susceptible than men to be affected by this Number two: men were making fun of women's fashion (which they were) and spreading such a myth, it only made it's way into popular literature after the fact, when most women had already ditched corsets, they were a writing cliche, in that case it's like someone in 100 years saying "(insert cliche about the early 21st century) causes guys to have excessive nosebleeds" because it's a common trope in anime Have you even worn a corset, and I don't mean one for waist training, that's a whole nother can of worms, corsets are super comfortable they support your back and bust, if you choose the right size and don't wear it against your bare skin, most of the silhouette was achieved by padding out, not so much just sinching in, there were a few crazy women tightlacing, but they were the exeption, not the norm, that's like saying every woman in this day and age has gone through a lot of surgery to look like the Kardashians
@@l.c.8475 Corsets were for the upper class. Not the working class. So you are wrong there. The only working women wearing Corsets were hookers maybe. Corsets weren't as comfortable as you think. Modern Corsets may be comfortable and not as restricting now but in the old days they were very uncomfortable. One lady had enough of it and created the first bra. It was similar to a full slip. Much more comfortable than the stiff and restricting corsets which were often made from wood or whalebones. Lower class working women wouldn't wear a corset anyway because they would have been unable to move freely to do their work. And being for the upper class, not likely to be affordable.
@@geophoenix8789 working women were wearing corsets, there are numerous examples of them wearing corsets, the pretty housemaid corset is literally an example of a cheap robust mass manufactured corset for easy movement that was advertised to and worn by servants, no upperclass lady would wear a corset with a name like that. There were breathable summer corsets and corsets for physical activity, if they had been such a torture devices, wouldn't women have used any excuse they could get to get out of wearing a corset? Modern corsets are way less comfortable, because they tend to be mostly stealboned and get their shape from that, as well as being mostly for waist training, whereas Victorian corsets were often boned with much more flexible wailbone, which molds to the body with heat on top of being shaped by quilting and cording, they are also cut to be more shapely than their modern counterparts, One lady reinvented* the bra in 1914, sure, but there are women that hate wearing a bra today, and that doesn't mean that all wellfitting bras are uncomfortable, it just means that bras aren't for everyone. and the argument that corsets are bad because they were using boning is also bullshit considering what bra wires are made of, and in a wellfitting bra those don't hurt either. * there is a 600 year old extant example of something that looks suspiciously like a bra that has been found in a castle in Austria, and shorts stays are also very similar to at least the first bras.
2:32 most likely edited photo. They used paint to paint the waist smaller (solid black background around the waist, easier to paint the waist smaller). especially if the pictures were some idols/models of that time.
Very smart and thoughtful young women. As a former ESL teacher who taught many Koreans in the 1980s and 90s.... I wonder if this generation is the children of my students. I am proud of their openness and understanding of women’s shapes and freedom. Blessings.
Just a thing I have to say as an extra fact I guess; After years of living in Korea I've seen that there is quite a big controversy on wearing bras... I've seen women get yelled at for not wearing one bc it is still quite a taboo thing to do and even tho more and more women are starting to just don't give an f and going braless of they want... there's still a big social stigma around it .... there are quite a bunch of things that most Koreans aren't open to or as receptive that most of the world is... from bras to tattoos... it is quite an interesting society tho
The pictures they where shown from the 1890’s where heavily edited. Corsets where not usually tight laced woman still had things to do and most woman found them quite comfortable. The idea that corsets where harming woman came from men trying to discredit the only thing woman really had which was fashion. Most of the stereotypes we see about corsets come from men writing articles when women were started to fight for rights. And women who did tight lace where considered improper. For more information on corsets look at Karolina Zebrowska’s channel.
Watch this vid: 'How Victorian Men Taught Us to Hate Corsets: The Biggest Lie in Fashion History' to know about all the misconceptions we have of corsets.
these 2 ladies are positively sweet and adorable. They are sooo nice and accepting . This was a very refreshing video and perked my spirits up in these trying times.
I liked this video seeing all the different underwear throughout the years. The last section of underwear is more of shape wear and not what people usually wear everyday though.
Jasmine Gonzales I mean unless your talking about plastic surgery I think people can be genuinely ugly where they couldn’t fix it without huge facial/body modifications
Soooo many people think that the purpose of a corset is to slim the waist. It was meant to fit snuggly and give support to the bust and for the layers of skirts, and smooth out the figure. A few people tight-laced them, and a lot of pictures of women wearing a corset with a tiny waist were edited with paint, that's why the background surrounding the waist area is so often plain. I've been considering looking into a corset to fix my posture because I get back pains and often slouch while sitting without even noticing
corsets werent actually that bad, the whole fainting thing was mostly because of the high amounts of lead in paint. and photos have been edited in the past to make those 19th century girls that slim :I
Actually the corset was mainly for support as their dresses were so heavy. But as a thin waist was what was sought after (as it always had been) it was a way to get an even thinner waist and some took it to an extreme.
To that one girl who said the idols clothes would be to tight for her. You are beautiful. Dont try to fit your body to the image of others when your is special because it is what your omma gave you.
Btw it is believed the photos of corsets is photoshopped they would (draw over) black out some parts of the picture and in some of them even the ones you have shown it’s pretty obvious if you look for it
You can get the same look as Heejae if that’s who you’re referring to! It’s a clip on ponytail attached to her actual ponytail with either her real hair in a braid or a fake braid wound around the top :) she shared her method with us on another vid lol
The corset was not made just to make the waist small it gave great back support and bust support wearing it tight so you could not breathe was not normal only some women did that moat the corset was a support item but helped the waist look small too the pettie coats they wore (the underskirts) in volume helped the waist look smaller in comparison
They were a little wrong about the corset, bernadette banner has a comprehensive video about it, but essentially yes there were some people (a small number) who did waist training to achieve a wasp waist but for the most part the corsets were there for shape and posture and they could breathe easily.
One thing about corsets- that’s a lot of padding used to make those shapes lol no one actually looked like that. And very very few people tight laced. Think of it like not a whole lot of people actually wear 6 inch stiletto heels
Both these woman look different from each other yet both are very beautiful, not just because of how they look but the way they think and things they say.
I remember my mom telling me about bullet bras in the 50s and 60s. She said they were extremely uncomfortable. I just can't imagine trying to hug someone in one of those. You could hurt somebody. 😂 I have to say that it was nice to see Koreans participating in body positivity. I was told by a friend that lived there for several years to teach that it was pretty common to hear a fat joke directly aimed at someone. And usually these people just laugh along uncomfortably and put up with it.
Actually, corsets were comfortable as long as it fits your body and as long as you don't wear them too tight. Summer corsets existed too! It was also preserving your back.
About those old pictures with corsets, corsets where not those torture devices people think they were. Also some of these extreme photos might be photoshopped (yes they already did that in the past) If the background is black they could have easily drawn some extra black around the waist to make it even more tinier.
Fashion history nerd here, corsets were not uncomfortable. Worn correctly they were supposedly very comfortable and people who history bound (like Disney bounders or cosplayers) have made lots of videos about it on TH-cam! Corsets were not tight laced so the wearer couldn’t breath (like movies such as the Pirates of the Caribbean tend to portray/that’s just for dramatic effect) Since these women wore multiple layers of heavy skirts and/or metal hoop skirts, the corsets were designed to take the weight off and evenly distribute it so the weight were not just on the hips and back. Also many pictures of those ridiculously skinny women were edited in some way, sometimes by cleverly painting over them.
Just saying for those who are in the comments. Corsets where not all tight laced but instead structured to look like it was. The black and white photos they looked at btw have a super high probability of being edited (yes editing photos have existed for years before technology!) I highly suggest looking into some info regarding this!! Very interesting.
Fun fact about corsets. Women wore them not for the shape they gave, but often for support. A corset went along the entire torso, making it impossible for the back to bend and helped the lady keep a straight posture. This would be why when a woman dropped something like a napkin or book, a man would pick it up for them. Not only was it gentlemanly, but women couldn’t bend their backs to pick up the dropped object themselves.
About the corsets, there’s no evidence that they did any damage to ribs like breaking them or crushing organs (corpses from that time period were dug up and none of them exhibited broken runs from corsets). Some women still wear corsets today, sometimes for medical reasons, and there are videos of women who perform ordinary daily tasks while wearing one and don’t have any trouble with it. The reason corsets might be uncomfortable at first is because they’re like ballet shoes and need to be broken in to conform to a woman’s unique shape and properly support and distribute her weight evenly, especially the weight of old clothes since there were so many layers that dresses were heavy, and were closely tailored to fit her properly. Waists were never that small in the 1880s or 1890s, those black and white images were likely photoshopped in the modern era and corsets arent as dangerous as theyre depicted to be. Tldr; im just here to spread some knowledge on corsets that i know for some weird reason. Fun fact: men also used to wear corsets to make themselves appear slender, because being slim waisted was the beauty standard at the time
The corset wore in 1800s are not always tight laced! All women wore corsets which were just as tight as a normal bra. The purpose of the corset was not to have a slim waist (which was searched by high classes and only during events), but just substain and mantain a good posture! They were used just as we use normal bras! TIGHT LACING WAS NOT THE NORM! (Search for Bernadette Banner's video, she explains everything with historical accuracy and proper sources!)
There is such a double standard among people today. Everyone is shouting about positive body attitudes and acceptance yet still the beauty ideal is non-fading. I'm not going to debate it, but it's just how it is. It's complicated. Just felt important to say it.
corset photos from the past are often doctored! many of the thin waists we see are on simple backgrounds where they'd just color over it to slim the figure. but, as you can see in the profile of the girl wearing a corset, her stomach hasn't been squished as much as it'd lead you to believe!
Definitively thanks to her many women were encouraged not to wear a bra! Sulli really was a feminist icon even if she didn't had the intention. I really miss her too so much :(
Victoria’s Secret makes okay bras but their sizing is a bit weird so you might need to figure out your size for different styles. I haven’t shopped for bras there since freshman year of high school since I mostly go to better specialty stores.
In case people don't know this, a lot of old photographs of women in corsets were photoshopped! I'm not certain about the first one they showed here, but the second one with the woman sitting is most definitely retouched. The ability to alter photos has been around almost as long as photography!
its interesting to see your reactions to the corsets....because you guys didn't realize those pictures were also a early for of image manipulation/photoshop. the lady's waists wouldn't be that skinny. and you can tell that someone actually thinned the waist line by drawing on the pictures because the waists are too crisp and the colors around the waists that are edited are like one color. usually dark or grey. I'm not a expert but it looked to me that all of those photos you looked at in regards to the corsets had actually been the ones that were altered. just a interesting fun fact for you guys :)
It is very important to note that all women wore corsets, not just the rich ladies who just sat around. Working women wore it too, and the purpose was for it to provide structure to the clothes you wore, and it also worked to keep everything in place, like bras today. Most of the time they weren't laced tightly, it's a misconception. You could do most activities you can now wearing a modern bra. Also, all of those photos were painted over so the waist would look that tiny. 19th century Photoshop.
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They wouldn’t be able to handle SavageXFenty.
Omg they should react to th he fenty runway show
Yesssss I was hoping for that, everyone upvote this so they see it!
ikr
Yessss they need to react to that‼️
what makes you say that? SxF is nothing special. Frederick's of Hollywood is still far more daring.
Her about Kim kardashian: How is that shape even possible?
Everyone: Plastic surgery
😂
hey, there are people who are naturally that shape.
@@lulu_Lm Yeah i know just not Kim Kardashian
exactly what I said💀
And this Kim woman is UUUUGLY as hell.
She made it worse and wasted a lot of money.
These girls are so open minded and positive
A little bit too open minded and positive... I mean how can they even look at a fat sows and think everyone is different. I say burn the pigs and feed them to dogs.
Being fat is a disease.
@@livedandletdie all that self-hatred will eventually ruin you. Get help.
The Major you seem like a nice person
The Major yikes why are you here 😭
I'm a bit surprised they don't have Victoria's Secret in South Korea.
IKR, could you imagine Korean Angels?!? 😲😍
I was thinking the same thing. I also heard they dont have sizes above c cup either which is sad for my size.
Shawnie Storer me too lol
Shawnie Storer That sounds like a lie to me... If in Japan they have up to H cup size, then in Korea they have C for sure. However, an european B is a japanese D-E (depending on the brand) for example. And they measure you if you’re not sure, I believe the same method applies to Korea as well.
PongoXBongo
That would be cute but Angels are discontinued 😕
"how is that body shape possible?" lots, and lots, of surgery. don't beat yourself up about not having her body type when a lot of it is surgery and photoshop. she used to be very skinny with no curves initially.
Saff she did have curves but not like now obviously
j u s t i n a
Lmao nah she was flat
Amira Hajoui did you saw the body she had when she was 14?
Amira Hajoui not really she still had hips and boobs
Saff she definitely wasn’t beating herself up... seemed like a compliment is all.
Honey Rihanna has made sheer bralettes a thing way before Kendall Jenner
Ikr
those were around in the 70s as tops too they just didnt cover that
It'd be cool if you didn't use "honey" in a condescending manner.
Cottidae u are too sensitive
@@ihateyou1484 Not really. I just find it stupid to use a word that is usually used to show affection in a condescending manner. Language is always changing, which and that's why words that were fine to say before might not be these days. I don't want some shithead to ruin what we've got.
They actually used to "photoshop" some images to make the waist even smaller. The black backgrounds were useful
I heard that once they pushed a bit too much and the girl split to two
@@sivanabanana889 I don't think someone would've split in 2 from one unless that's what you aim to do. It is possible to get a very small waist but it involves years of waist training (which pushes organs down so yeah that is unhealthy).
However corsets when fitted properly can actually be more comfortable than bras- had a friend who wore one instead of a bra for most of high school and she swore by it. Knew another girl who did waist training for a while but got bored of it. It's just a matter of having common sense, and not buying a cheap mass-produced costume corset and getting a proper undergarment one.
@@comikachi i was joking but ok
Also wearing corsets were not unhealthy. They might be uncomfortable and you can’t do certain movements, but if you could even afford to wear a full corset you didn’t move around much anyway. And corsets helped with keeping your back straight as well do they were pretty useful I think.
@@NutellaDotNet I am sorry to inform you that they were very unhealthy :they break your bones or deform them (they can perfor the lungs) and deform the internal organs.
This only if is taken to extrimes (to deform your body).
A lot of womens in those days used corsets iven in pregnancy (becouse it was not accepted by society to have the belly) and consequence deaths or deformities in bebies raised up.
In America I think it’s more extreme underwear and bras then korea
Now a days alot of women wear bras for shirts in summer. No matter body size. And underwear is underwear, boyshorts, or thongs. And for the extreme cases of sexuality the leather for bdsm people. We are a free spirit nation and we have no fear in showing off what our mamas gave us.
Shawnie Storer yesss!^
a lot of koreans are starting to copy american trends tho
Lyn’s Covers , aye I concur but America is simply furthermore extreme in general
@@shawniestorer2935 Saying that while having tits naked on a beach is prohibited, great free nation
8:46 I found it funny that they said that if the shape wear would be sold in korea, it would only have three colors. Just like the foundations there🤣
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The shade I-
idk what you expect lmao 99% of people living in korea is korean. they’re not dark skinned. their makeup is made for THEM.
@@outro9591 lol but they use the foundation lighter than their actual skin color
digital sailor because of their idea of beauty. it’s been in their culture for thousands of years.
debunking corsets: just like today most people "photoshoped" their photos back than. They didn't wear them as tight as we see on most photos (depicting known women, so of course they were photoshoped), the corset would be worn over a protective layer as not to cause skin irritation and wold be designed to support and carry the weight of the breasts on most of the whole upper body. They would also "break in" their newly purchased corsets much like we still do with high heels.
Yes, cases of "extreme tight-lacers" sure existed but it was about as common as extreme plastic surgeries cases today. You have to keep in mind that corsets weren't worn to make you pretty but to support and hide your chest. Because I know a lot of you ladies out there don't want their Cs Ds and up cups just hanging there, making your daily tasks more difficult to accomplish.
👍 I was looking for this comment
Now I'm thinking that maybe bigger chested girls should be wearing a modified corset to better support them once bras just aren't cutting it
@@aximaysosa8885 even as a smaller chest person I can tell you that I can never properly adjust my bra to fit but not be uncomfortable, so I stick to no bra or sports bra most of the time but I know a few bigger chested girls who wore modern corsets under their prom dresses and were completely okay with the support and all.
A lot of people think that "big" girls wear corsets to be more slim. Although it might also be a factor if I was plus size I really wouldn't want bra stripes digging into my flesh and going in the dress without bra probably wouldn't be an option.
pretty much the only downside to corsets is the extra layer that creates extra heat
Smallest waist was 13 inches, I think.
Thank you!!!
i love how women-positive they were
am I the only once that think the girls voice to the right sounds a lot like Jisoo from blackpink
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i came here to say this exact statement
Same here..
I was thinking of that
She also looks and sounds like naeun from april, just saying
Queen Hwasa gets a mention! 😁 Even if it's just for walking around with her underwear showing. 😆
We really need to do away with people being gross fucks.
it wasn't actually her underwear, the jeans are alexander wang and theyre designed to look like underwear at the top.
No, she layered it, jeans were separate and "underwear" are Alexander Wang biker shorts
These two girls are the cutest, I can listen to them talk all day.
it would be so cool if you had them react to the savagexfenty runway show (that’s rihanna’s lingerie brand)
These girls are so cute. But I love the way they think. It's nice to see such free minds in all parts of the world ♥
Back in the corset days, they used to “edit the pictures” of the women by painting the pictures so the photos of the corseted women were most likely altered and usually the waists were not that skinny in day to day life
I'd love to show them Medieval underwear. Shockingly simple.
These two are amazing. I love how open and how they embrace dofferent body types and just, so happy and friendly!
Those corset photos are very misleading, for they are all edited. They would paint around the edges of the black background to make the waist smaller. Either way, tightlacing was just an Edwardian fad and it’s not really what corsets were for. They were more used as just an earlier form of the bra to provide structure and get a certain silhouette. Most Victorian women only reduced their east size by a couple of inches or not even at all if they had a working job where they had to move around a lot. While slim waists, were the beauty standard (as they still are), it just wasn’t practical to tightlace, which is why most women didn’t do it. I own an Edwardian corset and it really isn’t very uncomfortable. I wear it when I dress historically and I don’t pull it very tightly at all. In fact, the most uncomfortable thing about it is how hot it makes my torso to the point that I’m sweating a little. Anyway, I know people probably won’t see this comment anyway. I just wanted to prove that there are a lot of modern myths about corsetry, for women definitely weren’t “destroying their bodies.” Women didn’t view corsets as oppressive; they viewed them the same way modern women view bras: just a part of your underwear. That’s it.
i love these reacters, they're so amazing and respectful!
Those photos of the corsetted ladies were painted to make their waist look smaller, even in Victorian times women didn't torture themselves with corsets, they were fitted and they were made to be comfortable
Don't know your history well do you? Those things were made to be tight. Women had fainting spells back then because of them. Part of the reason why men today think women are weak and should just stay at home.
@@geophoenix8789 I do know my history thank you very much, the majority of women didn't have the luxury of staying home and doing nothing, and guess what, they were still wearing corsets, why else would the symington collections most popular corset be called "the pretty housemaid", corsets were part of being proper back then.
Most women, especially working women weren't fainting, the fainting has two believed origins that have more proof than the corset theory,
number one: they were literally surrounded by poisen, from the paint on their walls to the dyes of their dresses and the makeup on their faces, arsenic, lead and mercury were common ingredients for all of those back then, women who wore makeup and stayed indoors more were more susceptible than men to be affected by this
Number two: men were making fun of women's fashion (which they were) and spreading such a myth, it only made it's way into popular literature after the fact, when most women had already ditched corsets, they were a writing cliche,
in that case it's like someone in 100 years saying "(insert cliche about the early 21st century) causes guys to have excessive nosebleeds" because it's a common trope in anime
Have you even worn a corset, and I don't mean one for waist training, that's a whole nother can of worms, corsets are super comfortable they support your back and bust, if you choose the right size and don't wear it against your bare skin,
most of the silhouette was achieved by padding out, not so much just sinching in,
there were a few crazy women tightlacing, but they were the exeption, not the norm, that's like saying every woman in this day and age has gone through a lot of surgery to look like the Kardashians
@@l.c.8475 Corsets were for the upper class. Not the working class. So you are wrong there. The only working women wearing Corsets were hookers maybe. Corsets weren't as comfortable as you think. Modern Corsets may be comfortable and not as restricting now but in the old days they were very uncomfortable. One lady had enough of it and created the first bra. It was similar to a full slip. Much more comfortable than the stiff and restricting corsets which were often made from wood or whalebones.
Lower class working women wouldn't wear a corset anyway because they would have been unable to move freely to do their work. And being for the upper class, not likely to be affordable.
@@geophoenix8789 working women were wearing corsets, there are numerous examples of them wearing corsets, the pretty housemaid corset is literally an example of a cheap robust mass manufactured corset for easy movement that was advertised to and worn by servants, no upperclass lady would wear a corset with a name like that. There were breathable summer corsets and corsets for physical activity, if they had been such a torture devices, wouldn't women have used any excuse they could get to get out of wearing a corset?
Modern corsets are way less comfortable, because they tend to be mostly stealboned and get their shape from that, as well as being mostly for waist training, whereas Victorian corsets were often boned with much more flexible wailbone, which molds to the body with heat on top of being shaped by quilting and cording, they are also cut to be more shapely than their modern counterparts,
One lady reinvented* the bra in 1914, sure, but there are women that hate wearing a bra today, and that doesn't mean that all wellfitting bras are uncomfortable, it just means that bras aren't for everyone.
and the argument that corsets are bad because they were using boning is also bullshit considering what bra wires are made of, and in a wellfitting bra those don't hurt either.
* there is a 600 year old extant example of something that looks suspiciously like a bra that has been found in a castle in Austria, and shorts stays are also very similar to at least the first bras.
@@geophoenix8789 oh my god you are so so wrong, working women wore corsets for sure.
Corsets are not only for aesthetics. They also are practical. They compress the core region and provide stability.
2:32 most likely edited photo. They used paint to paint the waist smaller (solid black background around the waist, easier to paint the waist smaller). especially if the pictures were some idols/models of that time.
Very smart and thoughtful young women. As a former ESL teacher who taught many Koreans in the 1980s and 90s.... I wonder if this generation is the children of my students. I am proud of their openness and understanding of women’s shapes and freedom. Blessings.
Just a thing I have to say as an extra fact I guess; After years of living in Korea I've seen that there is quite a big controversy on wearing bras... I've seen women get yelled at for not wearing one bc it is still quite a taboo thing to do and even tho more and more women are starting to just don't give an f and going braless of they want... there's still a big social stigma around it .... there are quite a bunch of things that most Koreans aren't open to or as receptive that most of the world is... from bras to tattoos... it is quite an interesting society tho
I realized I haven't been wearing bra more than one year after watching this
“How is that body shape possible?”
Me: “she bought it.” 😂
The pictures they where shown from the 1890’s where heavily edited. Corsets where not usually tight laced woman still had things to do and most woman found them quite comfortable. The idea that corsets where harming woman came from men trying to discredit the only thing woman really had which was fashion. Most of the stereotypes we see about corsets come from men writing articles when women were started to fight for rights. And women who did tight lace where considered improper. For more information on corsets look at Karolina Zebrowska’s channel.
Watch this vid: 'How Victorian Men Taught Us to Hate Corsets: The Biggest Lie in Fashion History' to know about all the misconceptions we have of corsets.
Her asking how Kim Kardashian's shape was possible😂😂
these 2 ladies are positively sweet and adorable. They are sooo nice and accepting . This was a very refreshing video and perked my spirits up in these trying times.
No one:
Girl on the right: SO COOL
But like fr they're both so cool
Please have them react to the Savage x Fenty Fashion show
i love how positive and open-minded they were! ❤️
I liked this video seeing all the different underwear throughout the years. The last section of underwear is more of shape wear and not what people usually wear everyday though.
Can they react to Rihanna and all her accomplishments, music, make up, business in lingerie and how she's changed and impacted America
I honestly can not with the “Wow!”s when they are literally the exact same sound that comes up whenever Fairy Tail is showing some fan service. 😂
No one is ugly don't ever call yourself that your just poor😅😅
Jasmine Gonzales I mean unless your talking about plastic surgery I think people can be genuinely ugly where they couldn’t fix it without huge facial/body modifications
@@L._.A-06 yeah thats true but i was taking about surgery but 100% joking 😂
I really enjoyed these girls! They’re both pretty as well!
the girl with the ponytail sounds very similar to blackpink’s jisoo
Clapping for the man that invented the push up bra was a whole MOOD 😆
Soooo many people think that the purpose of a corset is to slim the waist. It was meant to fit snuggly and give support to the bust and for the layers of skirts, and smooth out the figure. A few people tight-laced them, and a lot of pictures of women wearing a corset with a tiny waist were edited with paint, that's why the background surrounding the waist area is so often plain. I've been considering looking into a corset to fix my posture because I get back pains and often slouch while sitting without even noticing
corsets werent actually that bad, the whole fainting thing was mostly because of the high amounts of lead in paint. and photos have been edited in the past to make those 19th century girls that slim :I
In those historic corset photos, the extremely slim waist was literally painted on.
You girls are so pretty, funny, cute, classy AND smart. Gomawo.
Actually the corset was mainly for support as their dresses were so heavy. But as a thin waist was what was sought after (as it always had been) it was a way to get an even thinner waist and some took it to an extreme.
I really liked that they had a open and positive mindset and opinions :)
To that one girl who said the idols clothes would be to tight for her. You are beautiful. Dont try to fit your body to the image of others when your is special because it is what your omma gave you.
Honest, classy reactions and comments.
I loved seeing models with different body sizes- it made me feel so comfortable being average. Not model skinny, not model curvy either.
SOMEDAYS I wake up n don’t feel pretty BUT then I put on my lingerie n I feel PRETTY!! I think that’s what it should do for ALL women OUT there!!!
Btw it is believed the photos of corsets is photoshopped they would (draw over) black out some parts of the picture and in some of them even the ones you have shown it’s pretty obvious if you look for it
I love that half and half suit she’s wearing
Heejae so pretty
They're both pretty.
Yes they are
In the thumbnail I thought the girl with the blazer was yi ren from everglow
Ok but the girls reacting seem like such chill and nice girls omgad
I like it for the sheer lace and embroidery, it's hard to find as casual clothes
these 2 girls are so pretty and the girl on the right has such nice hair 🥰
Johnston Steiner what 😭
You can get the same look as Heejae if that’s who you’re referring to! It’s a clip on ponytail attached to her actual ponytail with either her real hair in a braid or a fake braid wound around the top :)
she shared her method with us on another vid lol
these girls are soo sweet and cool omg
the girl with bangs sound sooo much like jisoo
The corset was not made just to make the waist small it gave great back support and bust support wearing it tight so you could not breathe was not normal only some women did that moat the corset was a support item but helped the waist look small too the pettie coats they wore (the underskirts) in volume helped the waist look smaller in comparison
As a guy, I give props to the makeup artist here. Both Yeonwoo and Heejae's make up is so pretty!
They were a little wrong about the corset, bernadette banner has a comprehensive video about it, but essentially yes there were some people (a small number) who did waist training to achieve a wasp waist but for the most part the corsets were there for shape and posture and they could breathe easily.
One thing about corsets- that’s a lot of padding used to make those shapes lol no one actually looked like that. And very very few people tight laced. Think of it like not a whole lot of people actually wear 6 inch stiletto heels
Both these woman look different from each other yet both are very beautiful, not just because of how they look but the way they think and things they say.
Can someone take the "wow" sound effect button away from the editor?
And the squeaky toy! Please!
No
Asian people love that shit. even here in China all videos have that shit with cat emojis everywhere!!!!
I remember my mom telling me about bullet bras in the 50s and 60s. She said they were extremely uncomfortable. I just can't imagine trying to hug someone in one of those. You could hurt somebody. 😂
I have to say that it was nice to see Koreans participating in body positivity. I was told by a friend that lived there for several years to teach that it was pretty common to hear a fat joke directly aimed at someone. And usually these people just laugh along uncomfortably and put up with it.
Actually, corsets were comfortable as long as it fits your body and as long as you don't wear them too tight. Summer corsets existed too! It was also preserving your back.
Let them react to stand up it’s a very strong heart warming song that they would love
5:38. "Cool women even then." It was the 60s. Duh.
Corsets are very good for your body, actually. Many people still wear them.
They werent just for slim waists.
thank you! i wear corsets to straighten my posture :)
About those old pictures with corsets, corsets where not those torture devices people think they were. Also some of these extreme photos might be photoshopped (yes they already did that in the past) If the background is black they could have easily drawn some extra black around the waist to make it even more tinier.
You are awesome! 😘
Fashion history nerd here, corsets were not uncomfortable. Worn correctly they were supposedly very comfortable and people who history bound (like Disney bounders or cosplayers) have made lots of videos about it on TH-cam! Corsets were not tight laced so the wearer couldn’t breath (like movies such as the Pirates of the Caribbean tend to portray/that’s just for dramatic effect) Since these women wore multiple layers of heavy skirts and/or metal hoop skirts, the corsets were designed to take the weight off and evenly distribute it so the weight were not just on the hips and back. Also many pictures of those ridiculously skinny women were edited in some way, sometimes by cleverly painting over them.
I really like Aerie, because they not only have different bodied and colored women, they have disabled women as well!
Just saying for those who are in the comments. Corsets where not all tight laced but instead structured to look like it was. The black and white photos they looked at btw have a super high probability of being edited (yes editing photos have existed for years before technology!) I highly suggest looking into some info regarding this!! Very interesting.
This is was fun and different!
The girl in the right is the asian version of Spencer from Pretty Little Liars 😍
Fun fact about corsets. Women wore them not for the shape they gave, but often for support. A corset went along the entire torso, making it impossible for the back to bend and helped the lady keep a straight posture. This would be why when a woman dropped something like a napkin or book, a man would pick it up for them. Not only was it gentlemanly, but women couldn’t bend their backs to pick up the dropped object themselves.
About the corsets, there’s no evidence that they did any damage to ribs like breaking them or crushing organs (corpses from that time period were dug up and none of them exhibited broken runs from corsets). Some women still wear corsets today, sometimes for medical reasons, and there are videos of women who perform ordinary daily tasks while wearing one and don’t have any trouble with it.
The reason corsets might be uncomfortable at first is because they’re like ballet shoes and need to be broken in to conform to a woman’s unique shape and properly support and distribute her weight evenly, especially the weight of old clothes since there were so many layers that dresses were heavy, and were closely tailored to fit her properly.
Waists were never that small in the 1880s or 1890s, those black and white images were likely photoshopped in the modern era and corsets arent as dangerous as theyre depicted to be.
Tldr; im just here to spread some knowledge on corsets that i know for some weird reason. Fun fact: men also used to wear corsets to make themselves appear slender, because being slim waisted was the beauty standard at the time
The corset wore in 1800s are not always tight laced! All women wore corsets which were just as tight as a normal bra. The purpose of the corset was not to have a slim waist (which was searched by high classes and only during events), but just substain and mantain a good posture! They were used just as we use normal bras!
TIGHT LACING WAS NOT THE NORM!
(Search for Bernadette Banner's video, she explains everything with historical accuracy and proper sources!)
Don’t you think the girl in the ponytail has a voice that resembles Blackpink’s Jisoo. It’s so relaxing
That wow in the background kills me everytime
There is such a double standard among people today. Everyone is shouting about positive body attitudes and acceptance yet still the beauty ideal is non-fading. I'm not going to debate it, but it's just how it is. It's complicated. Just felt important to say it.
corset photos from the past are often doctored! many of the thin waists we see are on simple backgrounds where they'd just color over it to slim the figure. but, as you can see in the profile of the girl wearing a corset, her stomach hasn't been squished as much as it'd lead you to believe!
I like these two a lot.
Wow! Heejae Lee is very beautiful.
Aw they're so cute and beautiful!
Idk if it's just me but the girl with bangs voice reminds me of Jisoo of BlackPink.
Remember when sulli was alive and would be bra-less but still would be made into a big deal?...
Yeah i miss her too🥺😔
fuck... its 4 am and now im crying...
she was a queen who didn't care about others opinions...
Definitively thanks to her many women were encouraged not to wear a bra! Sulli really was a feminist icon even if she didn't had the intention.
I really miss her too so much :(
Victoria’s Secret makes okay bras but their sizing is a bit weird so you might need to figure out your size for different styles. I haven’t shopped for bras there since freshman year of high school since I mostly go to better specialty stores.
You guys should've shown them SavageFenty lingerie wear😻😻😻 damn my girl Rihanna really slayed the designs
Honestly, the name alone is enough to tell me everyone involved is garbage.
In case people don't know this, a lot of old photographs of women in corsets were photoshopped! I'm not certain about the first one they showed here, but the second one with the woman sitting is most definitely retouched. The ability to alter photos has been around almost as long as photography!
its interesting to see your reactions to the corsets....because you guys didn't realize those pictures were also a early for of image manipulation/photoshop. the lady's waists wouldn't be that skinny. and you can tell that someone actually thinned the waist line by drawing on the pictures because the waists are too crisp and the colors around the waists that are edited are like one color. usually dark or grey. I'm not a expert but it looked to me that all of those photos you looked at in regards to the corsets had actually been the ones that were altered. just a interesting fun fact for you guys :)
It is very important to note that all women wore corsets, not just the rich ladies who just sat around. Working women wore it too, and the purpose was for it to provide structure to the clothes you wore, and it also worked to keep everything in place, like bras today. Most of the time they weren't laced tightly, it's a misconception. You could do most activities you can now wearing a modern bra.
Also, all of those photos were painted over so the waist would look that tiny. 19th century Photoshop.
I literally got Kim kardashions shape wear ad during their discussion about corsets 💀
I love how she held up her lipstick which is known as a bullet, when they were looking at the bullet bra. She knows.
I love these girls 🥰
I’m sad savage fenty wasn’t included