Great review! You cover a lot of things that others don't. I like how talk about it from a sharpeners perspective and who would benefit from it. I prefer this style of review much more than the unboxing videos or sale pitch videos we are all used to seeing.
Excellent review! I notice you do a side to side stroke. Is that better than back and forth? I use back and forth using as much of the stone as possible to keep from wearing out the center of my stone. I use a Kadet Pro and found that a series of hour glass egg timers (1 min, 2 min, etc.) keeps my sides well balanced. I tend to lose count when I count. And, I sure agree about TSProf's milling work... amazing! Thank you!
Yes your way is best I like to try and use the full stone in my stoke. I have also used the time method rather than count and I agree its a totally fine way to do it and keeps you close enough to keep everything even
I use my Kadet Pro for higher end knives and scissors. I have also used Plasti Dip on all of my knife clamps in order improve grip and blade protection.
A real “why didn’t I think of that” moment! I’m always struggling with how to prevent my TSProf clamps from marring my knives. Definitely going to try the PlastiDip….thank you!
Hi Paul, Great video! Do you always use the TSPROF dry, or do you ever use water? Let me begin by saying that I'm not a professional knife shapener, but i do a fair amount of general purpose sharpening, everything from kitchen knives to woodworking chiesels, plane blades etc. I have a KO worksharp... it does an OK job and its convenient, but to be truthful I am not a huge fan of the edge produced by a convex grind. One of the claims has always been that convex grind is more durable, and stays sharper longer, but I have not found this to be true. I can actually achieve a much sharper edge using traditional japanese water stones by hand. Most of the time though I don't want to take the time and effort to do this; I just want to dress up a shave-sharp edge and get back to business. For those reasons, I have become very interested in the TSPROF system; it seems to be a sharpener that will deliver a consistently good edge with a minimal amount of fuss. I leave my KO worksharp mounted and plugged in, so I can just walk up and sharpen something, and thats what I would do with the TSPROF. Thanks, Barry
Great review. I was happy to hear your comments about the Worksharp KO. I have one with the attachment and use it for my inexpensive Chicago Cutlery kitchen knives and my Benchmade EDC. Got it a couple years ago and it was the first sharpener that I was really successful with to raise a burr consistently. Have to give kudos to one of the Worksharp videos that showed the process well, as your videos do. However, now my engineer gene has me wondering if I might be putting too much of a convex edge on my knives from repeated sharpening (it’s always something)! But, so far it lets me keep the knives good and sharp so I’m pretty happy with it, maybe an issue for down the road. Also, gotta say I think leather strops are a necessity. Worksharp doesn’t make one, but when I purchased a strop and started using that I got my first true push cuts on those 13 degree bevel Chicago Cutlery knives (Benchmade did it out of the box with their 15 degree bevel). If I ever upgrade to some expensive knifes (at least a bolsterless Chef and Santoku), or if my Worksharp motor burns out, I might consider a TSPROF based on this review and the kinds of sharpening I do.
Im pretty sure your customers are well taken care of and that the person looking to drop 400 bucks on something like this is not the same person who wants professional care. Unless they are also the same person who comes to you to correct their work haha. Hell, i consider myself proficient at sharpening for someone who just takes care of my own stuff, and I would use you if we lived in the same hemisphere. Also, nice review!
I do get a lot of correction work many times it's the teen age son who tries to sharpen something on a bench grinder or the person who tries to use a pull through sharpener on a good Japanese knife (never understand that) So many junky sharpening gimmicks out there as well. Cans with magnets. People putting a Japanese name on a $30 junk sharpener that's made in China and sold on Amazon for $30 bucks. That scam makes me so mad I did a video on it. Fortunately TSPROF is total top level quality. So well made and designed so well really anyone can get it right and have super sharp knives. Funny how those cheap gimmick ones never want to send me one to review but TSPROF had no fear at all sending me one to review knowing I am a professional full time sharpener clearly they know they have a great quality product.
I would say it’s a little bit longer in general I can do a knife on the Tormek in 10 min or under the TSPROF around 15-20 min but again it depends on the knife I definitely got some done in well under 10 min on the TSProff but any thing really dull is going to be a little bit of time. Some guys in the Guild of Professional Sharpeners Meeting that met last night were saying they do corrections on the 1x30 then finish on TSPROF’s and also some Edge Pro guys where using a similar method to speed things up a bit ,but to get a really precision final edge that those systems give them. I will give that a try soon.
Could you give me an idea what a person should charge per inch to use this type of sharpening system so you can make money without having to over charge to maintain a system like this. Thanks in advance.
Hi Paul, I forgot ask, is there good availability on replacement stones/diamond plates etc., or are we limited to what TSPROF sends with the kit? ~Barry
no it actually very close to edge leading if you use and oval stroke going up heal to tip and have seen no issues with the straight stroke across the blade this style of sharpener has been around long time. You could also go tip to heel and do a edge trailing stroke if you wanted to I just don't care for edge trailing much but some people do. When I had my Wicked Edged that has a very similar stroke I didn't have any issues with edge retention on knives my only issue for me was the time it took but heard in the Guild meeting last night guys are doing corrections on 1x30 and suck then finishing on TSPROF and similar sharpaners to speed things up with good results.
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I love your channel! This video was the single most valuable one I have watched as I am thinking about getting into the sharpening game. Thank you.
Great review! You cover a lot of things that others don't. I like how talk about it from a sharpeners perspective and who would benefit from it. I prefer this style of review much more than the unboxing videos or sale pitch videos we are all used to seeing.
I appreciate that!
Excellent review! I notice you do a side to side stroke. Is that better than back and forth? I use back and forth using as much of the stone as possible to keep from wearing out the center of my stone. I use a Kadet Pro and found that a series of hour glass egg timers (1 min, 2 min, etc.) keeps my sides well balanced. I tend to lose count when I count. And, I sure agree about TSProf's milling work... amazing! Thank you!
Yes your way is best I like to try and use the full stone in my stoke. I have also used the time method rather than count and I agree its a totally fine way to do it and keeps you close enough to keep everything even
I use my Kadet Pro for higher end knives and scissors. I have also used Plasti Dip on all of my knife clamps in order improve grip and blade protection.
that sounds interesting Plastic Dip
A real “why didn’t I think of that” moment! I’m always struggling with how to prevent my TSProf clamps from marring my knives. Definitely going to try the PlastiDip….thank you!
I just like the way you keep waving your fingers before the blade.
Hi Paul,
Great video! Do you always use the TSPROF dry, or do you ever use water?
Let me begin by saying that I'm not a professional knife shapener, but i do a fair amount of general purpose sharpening, everything from kitchen knives to woodworking chiesels, plane blades etc. I have a KO worksharp... it does an OK job and its convenient, but to be truthful I am not a huge fan of the edge produced by a convex grind. One of the claims has always been that convex grind is more durable, and stays sharper longer, but I have not found this to be true. I can actually achieve a much sharper edge using traditional japanese water stones by hand. Most of the time though I don't want to take the time and effort to do this; I just want to dress up a shave-sharp edge and get back to business. For those reasons, I have become very interested in the TSPROF system; it seems to be a sharpener that will deliver a consistently good edge with a minimal amount of fuss. I leave my KO worksharp mounted and plugged in, so I can just walk up and sharpen something, and thats what I would do with the TSPROF.
Thanks,
Barry
Great review. I was happy to hear your comments about the Worksharp KO. I have one with the attachment and use it for my inexpensive Chicago Cutlery kitchen knives and my Benchmade EDC. Got it a couple years ago and it was the first sharpener that I was really successful with to raise a burr consistently. Have to give kudos to one of the Worksharp videos that showed the process well, as your videos do. However, now my engineer gene has me wondering if I might be putting too much of a convex edge on my knives from repeated sharpening (it’s always something)! But, so far it lets me keep the knives good and sharp so I’m pretty happy with it, maybe an issue for down the road. Also, gotta say I think leather strops are a necessity. Worksharp doesn’t make one, but when I purchased a strop and started using that I got my first true push cuts on those 13 degree bevel Chicago Cutlery knives (Benchmade did it out of the box with their 15 degree bevel).
If I ever upgrade to some expensive knifes (at least a bolsterless Chef and Santoku), or if my Worksharp motor burns out, I might consider a TSPROF based on this review and the kinds of sharpening I do.
Thank you great to hear all you are doing. I love Old Chicago Cutlery Knives one of my favorite to work on
Im pretty sure your customers are well taken care of and that the person looking to drop 400 bucks on something like this is not the same person who wants professional care. Unless they are also the same person who comes to you to correct their work haha. Hell, i consider myself proficient at sharpening for someone who just takes care of my own stuff, and I would use you if we lived in the same hemisphere.
Also, nice review!
I do get a lot of correction work many times it's the teen age son who tries to sharpen something on a bench grinder or the person who tries to use a pull through sharpener on a good Japanese knife (never understand that) So many junky sharpening gimmicks out there as well. Cans with magnets. People putting a Japanese name on a $30 junk sharpener that's made in China and sold on Amazon for $30 bucks. That scam makes me so mad I did a video on it. Fortunately TSPROF is total top level quality. So well made and designed so well really anyone can get it right and have super sharp knives. Funny how those cheap gimmick ones never want to send me one to review but TSPROF had no fear at all sending me one to review knowing I am a professional full time sharpener clearly they know they have a great quality product.
Wish you Bess tested this edge
I will try and do some testing and film it I am sure it will rock some very low BESS Scores it's an awesome sharpener
Good review as always. Curious as to a comparison on how much time it takes start to finish as compared to my Tormek.
I would say it’s a little bit longer in general I can do a knife on the Tormek in 10 min or under the TSPROF around 15-20 min but again it depends on the knife I definitely got some done in well under 10 min on the TSProff but any thing really dull is going to be a little bit of time. Some guys in the Guild of Professional Sharpeners Meeting that met last night were saying they do corrections on the 1x30 then finish on TSPROF’s and also some Edge Pro guys where using a similar method to speed things up a bit ,but to get a really precision final edge that those systems give them. I will give that a try soon.
Thank you for this video.
Did you do the tip while you were working on it? Or do you have to do it on another sharpener?
What do you consider to be a better quality stone than their factory ones?
@@Liljoozy venev diamond resin stones.
Could you give me an idea what a person should charge per inch to use this type of sharpening system so you can make money without having to over charge to maintain a system like this. Thanks in advance.
I don't charge per inch you can see my pricing on my website at alxsharpen.com I do fixed prices
Hi Paul, I forgot ask, is there good availability on replacement stones/diamond plates etc., or are we limited to what TSPROF sends with the kit?
~Barry
Not at all there are lots of stone available that fit the TSPROF
Check out gritomatic for a very wide selection on stones for this system.
Wouldn't sharpening parallel to the edge like that create weaker apex?
no it actually very close to edge leading if you use and oval stroke going up heal to tip and have seen no issues with the straight stroke across the blade this style of sharpener has been around long time. You could also go tip to heel and do a edge trailing stroke if you wanted to I just don't care for edge trailing much but some people do. When I had my Wicked Edged that has a very similar stroke I didn't have any issues with edge retention on knives my only issue for me was the time it took but heard in the Guild meeting last night guys are doing corrections on 1x30 and suck then finishing on TSPROF and similar sharpaners to speed things up with good results.
Can you put a single clamp on?
Yes, tsprof makes a single clamp for various models
@@Aa-ron22 you can but it’s not great to do you have to really make sure it’s tight
Can you use a sharpening steel on a convex edge? Or only v edges?
sure as long as you sure your hitting the apex it's only an issue if the convex gets big .The more slack the belt the bigger the convex angle will be
@ALXSHARPEN thanks for the reply good to know!