Timing my first +20! | Zero to 3K Challenge #2
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 31 ก.ค. 2024
- Today is the 2nd episode where we embark on a new challenge. To achieve 3000 raider.io score with purely pugs, no friends, no guildies, limited gold and disconnected to my main Raider.io account. This is the 0 to 3k Challenge and I hope you enjoy!
I will be playing a class that I've never played as a main before, that I will have to master to reach my goal. If you want to support and see more content in the future you can drop a like, subscribe and click the bell. If you didn't enjoy the video or have suggestions for content you would like to see leave a comment down below!
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Chapters:
Intro 0:00
1st Vault 2:54
Normal Tindral and Fyarrak 4:21
+15 Dawn of the Infinite Murozond's Rise 5:39
+16 Atal'Dazar 6:09
+16 Darkheart Thicket 6:41
+17 Everbloom 7:11
+16 Dawn of the Infinite Galakrond's Fall 8:57
+13 Dawn of the Infinite Murozond's Rise 10:03
2nd Vault 10:45
+16 Dawn of the Infinite Galakrond's Fall 12:20
Enchants and Consumables 13:22
Weekly Quest Reward 14:09
+18 Throne of the Tides 14:22
+15 Waycrest Manor 15:19
+15 Everbloom 15:28
Upgrading Gear 16:15
+18 Atal'Dazar 16:35
+20 Waycrest Manor 17:54
Outro 19:28
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Happy New Years guys! I hope you guys had a good time and stayed safe. I'm sorry about the mic quality being weird this episode. I'll try my best to fix it but not really sure why it was different than normal.
Happy New Year. Love the videos.
Huge growth, congrats on that. Really like your approach to playing the game. Humble and asking questions rather than arguing with people while you're learning. Keep it up.
Thank you for mentioning my comment! Never had a mention before :D Super excited to see more videos!
Freakin love content like this
Love seeing gameplay w commentary and your journey is sick
Inspires me on my tanking journey
Love to hear that, thank you!
Love the videos and challenge! For oakheart, you can range the breath frontal. It’s a bit tricky with pally compared to vdh since they can leap the distance. But if you divine steed away right before DBM says the frontal is coming then you can out range it. Tricky but doable with practice. As for Chronikar, recommend saving a wod proc and 3 holy power for double wod along with a defensive. Tanking is tough role, especially with pugs. Props to you on getting the 20 in the end!
Thank you, I have had a few comments about the Oakheart trick so I am going to see if I can find some footage of it online and try it for myself
Dude AT is the pig killer for real I'm making pally this expac and prot specifically so i 100% know how you felt learning to tank as a pally. You're amazing man keep on keepin on and thsnk you for the content.
Keep it up mate. Love how you don’t let the toxic players (m+) deter you from finishing your keys. Doing a 20 at your ilvl is insanely impressive. I’m always helping lower guys push their keys. We need a better community in retail wow.
That’s awesome, if you use lots of your util it is surprising how far you can push at low ilvl
Thanks for making the videos and sharing the experience. It's great entertainment. Looking forward to the journey.
I appreciate you for checking it out and giving it a chance. I'm glad you have enjoyed it so far!
Congrats on the first 20!
Thank you!
slayy good series
Woo been looking forward to this! @13:00 it was definitely the imps that pulled they are annoying af, im guessing it put you in combat so your trinket or weapon enchant or something did damage. I main warlock and it happens all the time there cos of stupid imps lol
Yeah, the rogue even called it and said before the shroud to pray for the imps not to pull but oh well. I'm glad I know that now for when I play with demo locks
For that first boss in Fall I’d recommend learning when a tank buster is about to happen (maybe getting WA for it) so you can use a defensive before hand so when he hits you with it you take minimal damage which gives you time to heal the heal absorb. I like to use either AD or just pop Guardian right before and if need be bubble if I’m strapped on CDs. I also make sure I have a few holy charges so when I do get that heal absorb I use WoG instantly and it usually takes 90% or more of that heal off already. That’s my recommendation
gj bro! kinda want to come back to the game watching you!
Go for it, the game feels pretty forgiving to new players in my opinion and the only time it can be troublesome is with alts unless you put lots of time in them!
I play tank pala for AD i bubble after the second soul to destroy as much as i can for spider, and use freedom for the vines affix and everboom flower debuff bc it is slow and increase dmg to u. One more thing eye of tyr put debuff for enemy so make sure they are close to u. GL with the road to 3k i like the idea.
Thanks for the tips!
Nice vids man! Loving the series so far. What is the add on you have to show upgrade to spec for each piece in the vault? Thanks!
That would be Pawn, if you download it then be careful since it uses stat weights that aren't the most reliable source for what is actually the best upgrade
Just started to play pro pal ! That’s great to push score in the same time than you 😊 Keep the good work!
For Chronikar what I like to do is to stack my word of glory twice, once with the stacked up one and the other one with 3 Holy Power, I also use Bastion of Light there to make sure I do not run out of shield stacks.
Also, from my experience, start using defensives more freely, don't be afraid to use them, majority of them are on a very low cooldown and, use wings pretty much on every pull when available, Guardian's and Divine Shield's cooldown are getting lowered while you are doing your basic rotation and spending Holy Power.
Also it is important to test out the flow of the group and see what they are capable of, go big, do not be scared, sequence your defensives and you should pretty much be able to live through anything.
Hope it helps!
Thanks, I might try out some different talents for Fall to try to make that fight a bit less stressful. I totally agree that on fort week it can be a good idea to go big on the first pull to test your group and I've slowly gotten more confidence to do so
Oak heart when he channels his breath cast you can run on your horse backwards not side to side and avoid it saving defensive just for his grasp.
With the healing absorb on first boss of fall you get a debuff that makes you take a ton more damage (+200%) and the debuff cant be dispelled until the healing absorb is gone, so you wanna heal yourself as much as possible and pop a defensive for sure to make it easier for the healer but they should also be ready for it when it comes or you just die in higher keys.
Good to know
Best thing I’ve learned as a tank is to also influence your pulls based on your team comp - long CD kicks? Try to pull less that require more of them and so on so forth.
As a balance druid main I agree, I've noticed that usually boomys and warlocks have a lot less frequent kicks so Throne of the Tides for example can be tough
The best way to not expose your back while tanking is by utilizing strafing. You can strafe directly away from a mob and the game still registers this as you facing the mob (and you don't have to do the slow back pedal).
If you run directly away from a mob without strafing, your back is turned.
Going to try this in my next key!
Perfect explanation, thanks man!
In everbloom u can use blessing of freedom to get rid of the debuff from the small flowers.
Hey I got a question got a good build for a ret pali?
edit: what should i use i got a lvl 70 demo lock windwalker monk and ret pali?
For guides if you are new to a class I would check out wowhead and youtube. For which class to pick out of those 3. They are all good to great in terms of how they are in the meta. Demo Lock is really strong in raid and the other two have great AOE (Monk) or Survivability (Paly). I would go with which one you enjoy most since all 3 are good at the moment
Hi. Can u, please, tell names of addons that show group interrupts and mythic+ progress (with count of mobs, time for each chest etc)?
The group interrupts is OmniCD and the mythic+ progress is a weak aura called "M+ Timer" on wago.io
at 9:34 as prot pally you always want to drop consercration no matter what. The DR it gives is assentiel to help midigate those big hits. The DR that conssercration gives for standing in it scales with mastery, rn most prot pallys in high keys are running the stats value of Haste > Mastery. with verse and crit being second to Ilvl. As much as possible you want to drop consercration aspecially if you know a big hit or a lot of damage is going to happen.
Okay, glad to know I have been following the right stat prio
hey man like your vids! Could you tell me what the addon is called for your player bar ( your own health bar) Cheers!
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Not new to tanking but I haven't tanked in many expos and started it this season both tanks can do 20+ keys it's nice to control the group and know the chances or a wipe are slim unless I decide to take the risky pulls, with this being week 8 even pulling slow is fine as everyone is crushing dps usually by now with 4p even if they are low Ilvl the 4 piece is crucial. It sucks you got people like that, hopefully your videos get lots of views and people see this is not the mind set to have in mythic+ we are all there to clear the key, ideally time it and should work together towards that.
I couldn't agree more, I do really enjoy the fact that I get so much control over the key since I feel like in pugging a good tank can really carry a group because like you said you minimize the chances of a wipe and lots of the timers are relatively free
Enjoying this series as someone who's also trying out Paladin tanking this season - in my case, after years of healing rather than DPSing. Enjoying the videos but I will just add one small note of honest feedback - the wiggles! I think everyone does it sometimes, but the fast wiggles whilst you're fighting groups genuinely make me a bit motion sick if I'm watching the video full screen. Hard habit to break, and I'm sure I probably spam jump and move aimlessly when I'm healing and tanking. But the tiny back and forth wiggles are definitely a bit jarring if you're recording it. Other than that, look forward to these videos.
I am sorry about that, I will try my best to not do it as much. It's a habit from the old days when I used to pvp and it's really hard to break
@ 14:43 the DH died bc he ripped threat on a couple mobs and got melee'd to death. He could have used a personal but it was pretty quick and unexpected. True he was bursting, but this is 100% your fault.
But you're also correct in your assessment that you were being greedy with your cooldowns. It looks like you're a few seconds into the pull and neither Sentinel or Eye of Tyr are on cooldown. You ought to be cycling through your cooldowns, especially considering that Prot Pally spec into plenty of CDR on nearly all our defensives. Also it's Fort week and this is a dangerous pull for your ilvl. The boss fight coming up doesn't really require you to save anything for a particular mechanic, especially on Fort week.
A couple more general tips: As Prot Paladin u should be taking advantage of the ranged silence from Avenger's Shield. If there's a caster at range that no one else wants to kick I always throw my shield at them as soon as it comes back up. And as a tank u may want to update your nameplates as its difficult to tell what you do and do not have threat on.
I had no idea about the CDR until about a week ago. I was watching some footage back and you are totally right. I am trying to use them more sparingly now. I think if I keep a closer eye on my dps player's cds hopefully I will be able to predict when they will be getting lots of threat. Thanks for the tips!
@@newmenn No problem! I hope it didn’t come off as too harsh. I just see people in my keys hold their CDs for sometimes double their cooldowns. The base CD for Bubble, Kings, Wings, and Ardent are long enough that ppl try to save them for an emergency but CDR gets them up nearly every other pull. If ppl just used their CDs to mitigate the damage before it gets critical or melt mobs before they become dangerous, these emergencies they’re worried about would never happen. This is a general tip for anyone who reads this comment.
At 12:55 you didn't pull that first pack, it looks like your warlock pulled, the damage you dealt was your ursine vengeance trinket which procs damage when your or an ally takes damage.
Sometimes your party members are gonna mess up and you can only control what you can control. Only tip I can think of to minimise the possibility of it being your own mistake in the future is to use a smaller mount for this shroud, pretty minor but it helps in a lot of cases for being more precise with movement controls so you don't get stuck on walls and know exactly where your character is.
Also looks like you had some lag similar to in the everbloom at 13:05 where your allies kinda teleported around a bit, might be worth looking into troubleshooting your internet especially for a tank in high keys in some situations a missed gcd or two can be a party wipe.
Keen for these videos man, it's cool to see your journey, keep it up.
Thanks dude! The small mount is a pretty cool tip that seems small but could be really important so I will try to remember that. As for the internet situation, I am supposed to get better internet soon but the new provider has been saying that for a while. I think the winter has really slowed it down so praying I get it sooner rather than later
Do you have a weakaura to track consecrate? I don't see one in your ui but I may be blind. For Oakheart you can pretty much tank the breath without a defensive and then save your defensives to rotate them on grips. At higher levels (beyond what you'd need for 3k io) the breath will hit you hard and then you can do a trick where you actually run away from it to avoid it entirely, but for now I wouldn't worry about that. For his grip rotate your wings, ancient kings, and ardent + tyr, then bubble or lay on hands in a pinch. Lots of bosses will have tank busters that require you to rotate your big defensives so learning a rhythm for your defensive rotations is important. Also, you can use abilities in the grip so it's good to pool holy power for wog while also saving a free one to use during the grip. If the grip moves you out of consecrate you can replace it. Lastly, by standing in the roots he puts down players can make them go away, blessing of freedom is super nice for this to get fewer adds. I wouldn't necessarily freedom yourself and try to run over roots because it might lead to weird boss movement, but if you have a person in your group willing to run over them you can use freedom on them.
I learned the blessing of freedom trick from another paly and that is life changing since I thought you could only use it to get rid of 1 but you can get rid of tons. For my consecrate I have just been tracking it with my main paladin WA that shows it on the top left. It tells me how much time left and if I am out of the range of it when it is active
m+ this season is pretty easy, a good season to go for 3k, i have done +20 with pugs at ilvl 450, people dont mind helping if it your own key, GL with the challange
Thank you!
Just pausing to comment that you can use freedom on the dreadpetal lashers in everbloom, the stacking dot they put on you is a snare, so freedom removes it, and is a huge mitigation tool there.
*Edit* I see you make note of it in a later Everbloom run, was just commenting on the early one seeing you waddle around and take a lot of damage, heh.
Yep, in the early clip I was like wait this is a slow right? I tried it and saw that freedom worked so going to try to use that from now on!
Yep, in the early clip I was like wait this is a slow right? I tried it and saw that freedom worked so going to try to use that from now on!
On Oakhart just use active mitigation and save your big defensives for when he grips you, that's all I do atleast however I'm a Blood DK but the general idea is still there.
Yeah, I think it was a low key problem where I wasn’t aware the best situations to use my cooldowns so when a tough boss happened I wasn’t prepared to use them
I don't understand 90% of this but its fun to watch
I appreciate it, if you have any questions feel free to ask
Really random but I really fuck with your UI setup, do you have a sort of export or something so I could try it out? I'm relatively new to wow and trying to find a comfortable UI setup
Thanks man! I have a UI video on my channel that should explain it all
At 12:59 look at the warlocks health bar. For a split second you can even see the damage number pop up on the bottom of the screen. Warlocks pet pulled and they aggrod him and killed him. Then went on to the rest of you.
Good to know, I thought I was crazy for thinking the same
9:41 you should use a defensive before that heal absorb because I believe the absorb is based off of the initial hit. More DR you have the less the absorb.
Good to know, thanks
Very different doing +20s in the 450s vs in the 480s like most people pushin keys are. When you get another 20ilvl on you, all the weekly +20s will be smooooooth sailing
This is so true, only at around 470 but the difference is insane
Nice improvement your doing very well considering your not used to tanking. Managing HP better and cool downs for efficiently. You shouldn't have to WOG yourself at all but that's a problem with your healer mostly. But you'll be blamed for dying in most cases even if it wasn't exactly your fault. I only use WOG on myself if I know 100% the healer can't get me and there are times were they blame me for dying on a normal sized pack based on them thinking I should keep myself alive but SOR is more important and as a tank I shouldn't have to be tasked with using most HP on healing myself, its an armor decrease and a DPs decrease and a lot of time I refuse to drop SOR to keep myself alive when the healer is in perfect shape. Using your defensives more actively and abilities on a better rotation will increase your dps drastically. I'm bursting over 500k and single 150k on my prot pally. Also you should never have to wait for healer mana. A healer is tasked with managing there mana pool and unless something crazy pops off they should be good the entire run. Many healers don't take the 2secs between pulls to get even just a tick of mana back by drinking and that's a fail on there part.
in 3 weeks i got to 482 from 440 from last season as a dps! i guess ive got too much free time haha still 2800 io...
Why is your character marked as private on Raider IO? Any reason? Seems a little odd when you are doing a challenge like this
Yep, done on purpose so that just incase if somebody in game looks me up. They don't somehow find my other characters even though they aren't linked to each other
6:50 you can outrange the breath and take 0 dmg as pala use your horse and run away right as your bigwigs/dbm timer says its going to cast in about .5 seconds
also if you drop your consecrate right under the boss, youll be in it for the grip and will get the DR, and also in higher keys think of sentinel as a defensive and not an offensive 90% of the time
Don’t forget that the ring is super cheap to craft maybe under 700g and it doesn’t count towards your embellishment limit if you just craft the raw ring with a drac for perfect stats
Ouu, good idea!
having shroud and then walk through the mobs aint the right way. Stay close to the wall; they cant see you, they can feel you :)
Fair point xD
No good picks? 😵💫 Eye of the Rising Flame is bis for Prot Pal, with insane Mastery. Even the Normal trinket is insane 😵
Fair point, since I have a rough idea of the item level I will need to get to 3k since I am pretty close on my main, I meant no good picks that will likely be around till the end of the series. Trust me if it was a hero track necklace then it wouldn't have been a question as to what I picked. Still praying for the Fyarrak trinket tho
For Oakheart, he can be scary on Tyran weeks. Eye of Tyr him for the DR and pop Ardent or Divine Shield. Divine Shield and Ardent are pretty low CDs so don't be afraid to use them. Using bubble with Final Stand Talent also helps to aggro the saplings on the first Crushing Grip since they overlap. Your healer should be aware that externals are gonna be needed. Dropping your Empowered Consecration with Tier set directly under him also helps a ton when you get gripped. You can use Lay for the heal absorb in Fall and be fine for the first time it happens. Watch your boss timers to see when it's going to happen again because using your "free" WoG and WoG with 3 holy power will almost instantly cover it. Healer can top off the rest or you can.
To add to this, on Oakheart it is fairly easy to outrange his Breath with Steed and this will save you a defensive.
I'm glad that this is pretty similar to the cooldown rotation that I used this week for Oakheart since it felt a lot easier when I planned it out and using both WoG made a huge difference since before I was only using my free one
Good to know, I'll have to try that
Did you change the mic? Sounds diff
I'm sorry about that, not sure why it sounded more muffled in my opinion so hopefully I can mess with how far away it is from me so it sounds better next time
@@newmenn oh dont be sorry, it happens, love to content, keep it up!
As a healer main i could say that it is actually impossible to heal tank in current state. Everyone from the group constantly takes enormous amount of random damage from mob casts and tanks having 1.5kk health which is so much to top up. Also all tanks have really huge self heal, so i am not healing tanks 95% of the dungeon, just because for them to heal themselves take 5 times less time, then for me
I always throw a maintenance heal on the tank and that is it if I have to heal the tank a lot more then either it's a bad tank that doesn't like his defensives or he is overpulling
It was back to boss AND gilded claws.
As a blood dk, I ams the second boss in dht lol
I’m surprised that works, I would think it’s physical damage
that atal 1h is bis btw as far as m+ gear goes
Yep but I already have the Fyarrak weapon from normal which is better
@@newmenn i know, it was just since it sounded like you were saying in general it was a bad weapon ^^
Please lower the gain of the mic a little. it would sound better
Yeah, I’m sorry about that. Not sure why it was like that, I’m going to try my best to fix it for the next episode
Elvui profile ?😊
I don't use Elvui but I do have a UI video on my channel if you want to know about any of my addons
The vers phial is just all around better
vers phial prio as tank
Thanks!
your voice volume is really low.
I'm sorry about that, I had to turn it down since when I was recording it the volume was a bit muffled so turning it down made it more clear. Probably need a better mic LOL
yo bro u should give me gold
I am way too broke right now, only got like 40k on my server xD
Not sure this is considered a "Challenge". You're taking the top tank for high keys and just doing keys till 3k. Pretty basic and easy to do from a solo / random standpoint and doesn't require any help normally for anyone to do. An actual challenge would have been from a dps perspective with a bottom tier spec.
Shut up elitist scum
I despise people like you… if you dont like the idea of the video just click off and move on with your day. Cant even consider it as criticism as if anyone said that to you im pretty sure you would not be able to take it
Sooo….its not a challenge just cause it’s not meta? Idk about you but it’s probably more difficult to play meta specs on a role you aren’t familiar with than non meta but already a ton of experience dpsing….
Are you an ai?
Its a challenge if you never tanked before
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One of the videos of all time