Loyal Pioneer DDJ controller fan switched to the Denon DJ Prime 4 | Review, Demo, tips & tricks
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Channa takes us through why he choose to switch from the Pioneer DDJ series DJ controllers to the Denon DJ Prime 4. He also gives a review, tips, tricks and opinion on Pioneer Vs. Denon DJ.
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The World's Most Powerful, Advanced DJ System Has Arrived. Command every gig, audience, genre, event and location! The multicore processor-powered Prime 4 makes your entire music collection available, transparently connecting you to your performance. With 4-deck hardware control and advanced touchscreen workflow, you're all set to handle any DJ set, anywhere, anytime.
Denon DJ Prime 4 DJ System Key Features at a Glance:
4-Deck standalone Engine Prime DJ system.
10-inch HD multi-touch display with gestures.
Dedicated XLR Zone output provides music to a separate room.
Built-in 2.5-inch SATA drive bay to store music onboard.
6-inch rugged metal jog wheel with HD central display.
(4) assignable input channels for external media sources.
(2) dedicated XLR inputs for microphones with individual control.
StagelinQ connection for Event/Pro DJ lighting and video control.
Plays uncompressed audio formats (FLAC, ALAC, WAV).
Crisp 24-bit Denon DJ legacy audio.
(4) USB and (1) SD media inputs for music playback.
USB keyboard support.
Coming soon - Serato DJ Pro control enabled.
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9:07 I don't think that calling the laptop the "weak link" here is a legit point for an all in one. Because if you have a laptop, you can have a backup laptop. If you have an all in one, you still have to have a backup. All things you mentioned that may happen on a laptop may also happen on an all in one. It's basically a different form factor, nothing more. Still can run into exactly the same issues.
Good review - I've owned the Prime4 for a few months now. Really like it - I haven't touched my SZ2 since getting the Prime4. You just showed me a few new features and tricks. Thnx👍 As for the internal harddrive I've been able to work around the import issues by placing new tracks or sets in a new or by updating an existing crate or playlist. That way I only need to drag and drop the updated crate or playlist into the internal harddrive. No need for a USB stick and It saves me time- no need to re-import everything all over again.
Thanks for the feedback!!
Whatsup Channa, had to drop a line after a few months with the Prime 4..your video was the deal breaker for Pioneer and I went with the Denon Prime 4. Thank you for the video and keep them coming brah!!
really clear explanation, and statement, thanks bro.
Thanks for the Feedback!
Very good advices! I'm hesitated to change for this Denon because of some questions I asked me and you just answer! (I've a XDJ-RX at this moment)
Happy to hear! Give us a call and lets get you one! :)
Very well explain and film, you speak clearly and for a french guy it's cool for understanding what you say
Effects are are not too much and final result seems professionnal.
Very good job !
Thank you for your feedback!!
Modern Soul thank you so much! I had a great time making the video!
Excellent. Bought my Prime 4 from idjnow also. Keep the prime 4 videos coming please. Thanks.
Awesome! 🙏
Good review. I have SC5000, X1800 setup and love it. I came from DDJ SZ.
Stephen Shiels thank you!
I really like this honest review. Thanks for tips and tricks!
Hi DJ Unprotected,
thx for the support.
Tnx for this, exactly what I needed. I'm transitioning from XDJ XZ to Prime 4, it's like the DJ equivalent of going from iPhone to Android.
It's great to see how more & more DJs are becoming open minded to the fact that there's a whole world of innovation outside of the "Industry Standard" bubble.
You can see the cross pollination from all the gear under the InMusic umbrella. Denon took the best of the best features from the whole catalog & rolled it up into the Prime Series. Next stop...swapping my NXS2Ks for SC6Ks.
Thx for the support ApexPredator_JKU
either way both are good brands. if need help making a purchase please contact deals@idjnow.com
Thank you.
Wow!! Nice video, I was thinking in buying the prime 4 a few months ago but I ended up buying the Numark NS7iii I just love the vinyl feel.
Both great pieces! Give us a ring at 1-800-355-7746 when you're ready to purchase.
Great video!
Thank you!! He killed it :)
Great review. I feel the same way about wanting to disconnect from the laptop Just found out the new Mac OS Catalina is still not compatible with Prime software or the Prime 4 itself Glad I can just pop a usb in there and be good
Thanks for the tip with using USB if you have the new OS ! :) Much appreciated
Denon Engine version 1.6 is a great firmware update on my Prime 4 and Prime 2! Both controller works great!
@djprime DEXTER,
Awesome thx for the support
good tutorial
Thanks for the feedback!
love the feel of the jog wheels just to loose. wish you could adjust them. Only gripe.
Fair gripe! You're not the only one who feels that way so maybe they will add something to adjust it in the future!
Lebron Sinclair agreed! I wish the hogs had adjustable tension.
Thank you for this video and I love your Broll shots!
Does the prime engine have a prepare folder? I use the Sh*T out of that thing :)
Lastly, How do you feel about the speed and efficiency of the interface? I always felt that searching and loading through a large library - quickly and efficiently - would be challenging without a laptop and keyboard.
Cool video man! That is one awesome looking machine. It sounds like DJ-ing is a little above my pay grade! LOL
Thank you! you can always finance it! www.idjnow.com/financing-options/
Thanks for watching man!!
Thanks for this, best video I have seen for Prime 4 and has helped me out heaps - only had mine for a few days.
Right on! Glad we could help :)
LuckyGoldenNuggets nice! Glad I could help out!
Where do u bought yours?
Great video another the way to do 3 & 4 is to press shift and 3 or 4 to get the 4 channels or to turn them off.
Thanks for the tip!!
I keep the builk of my librarly on the internal drive, then update the one off files for the couples on the thumb drive. That way I don't have to update the internal very often.
Nice! Good tip
Yea makes sense, instead of using your big laptop. Just up date fast using files on a USB drive for fast and easy update. Done!!
Could you explain it better please? Thanks
Stereomodedj yea should do a video on that!
how do I add tracks on Prime 4 to the internal SSD without taking it out please?
Only a simple question my friend. Im planning to switch from xdj rx2 to the prime 4. Im a loyal dj of pioneer as well and i use serato mostly. Im wondering. Can i trust prime 4? and that it wont crash during a gig either in standalone or using serato? Whats your suggestions. Thanks
Hello Andreas,
its always best to analyze your tracks on the new platform if your only going to use the harddrive to read only on the prime 4 as well as using it on serato. so far i haven't seen or heard complaints on this end but so far great reviews.
Recently got XDJ XZ first time with standalone and loving the menu system and screen wasn't small for me. For me It's all about that Pioneer jog wheel and Denon doesn't cut it.
My prime 4 screen froze yesterday while streaming on tidal and playing off usb at the same time. I can’t trust this into like this. I need reliability. Why is this? After buying it I’ve seen many videos showing the same problem of it freezing
Hello Alex,
i would try reaching out to Denon support and see what maybe happening.
Can you use rekordbox dvs with prime 4
No sorry, not compatible. You can however convert rekordbox to engine prime.
What's the internal memory specs?
The PRIME 4 supports a 2.5" SATA hard drive; either HDD or SSD. There is no drive capacity size limitation, just be sure the hard drive is formatted in one of the supported file system types; FAT32 or exFAT.
I wish someonw would make a higher end or mid level all in one deck with everything including CDs similar to the numark mixdeck quad. That woukd be dope. Come on Dennon Pioneer.
Maybe one day!! Im sure you're not the only one who wants to see that!
PRAES RS DJ PICH
you can put a hardrive inside it... underneith there is a door to install a hardrive
Correct! :)
The prime 4 is to smart 🤯
Definitely is!
idjnow i wil buy this amezing stand-alone machine in 2020 hope it’s to sell for a bit beter price. Do the Filters sounds the same smooth as Pioneer mixers? 🤔
Yeah for sure! Denon did an amazing job with this unit.
aqui no brasil um denom prime custa 14.000 reais nunca vou conseguir comprar um desse
Hey Channa! I'm not surprised you love it. It seems every DJ in the US think Serato/controller is the way to go, and the Prime 4 is in every way built like a controller with a build-in computer. In Sweden and in most of Europe, where I come from, Computers and DJ software are almost only used by beginners and as soon as you're getting gigs, you get proper hardware like a used Pioneer CDJ/Mixer setup. Not very expensive and there's always used gear in prime condition to buy. Then we have the oldboys like me, who never had a reson to even think of using a computer for anything else than preparing the music. Vinyl, CD's and to USB's has been the way. I did buy the Prime 4, and it took me about 5 minutes to realize I couldn't use it. It was a total brick. It lacks CDJ-mode, RGB wave forms, the jog wheel was the worst I've ever used, too big fonts so in browsing I went back several gens, as to the first CDJ-2000 that came out 11 years ago, where I could only see half the file name, and had to wait for it to scroll to see the rest. Finding out that the whole effect section, except for the filters, doesn't work with external gear... It was one thing on top of the other... I got mine the same day the update for horizontal wave forms came out. I did the update 3 times, because the setting to get the wave forms to change weren't to be found anywhere. Half an hour later I found out on TH-cam what key combo to use...
Being a Pioneer Pro DJ user since the early/mid 90's, pro gear for DJ's doesn't work that way, ever, period. I know Denon is working to fix things, but the only thing they've fixed so far is the choice of having smaller fonts in browsing mode. The rest is what it is. Every controller DJ seems to love it, and every hardware DJ would rather pass a gig than use Denon gear. It seems Denons ''Change your rider'' is for Controller DJ's only. I got rid of my Prime 4 and got myself a used XDJ-700/DJM-450 setup in prime ;) condition for half the new price. It just works as expected and has got everything I need and then some and it was paid for in a couple of weeks. Now it's money in the bank every time I use it. For bigger events and where more money is involved I still have my NXS2 setup, but I can truly tell that it is most for show, not functionality. But as it is modular setups, I can mix gear to suite any event. Sure is that it will take some time before I even think of spending any money on Denon gear again.
Thanks for the review! 👍
I had drop outs too. I'm done with drop outs!! I need a controller that doesn't rely on computers. Just simply plays and I can find track fast as possible!! With wifi too!!
We hear yah! Unless you go back to vinyl it will always need a computer of some sort to run. Whether its external or internal.
I'm done with computers. They randomly glitch up.
It all depends on the Processor and specs. What Computer have you been using?
idjnow I have 2 SSDs 16 gig ram new battery and fan. Computers are doing more than DJing. Computers should just be a back up!
Mac Joseph You have a “computer” in your Prime 4...... 🤭. If you don’t want to rely on any “computer” go back to analog gear and vinyl.
Great Video - thanks a lot. You speak a fine englisch, good to understand. I subsribed and rang the bell to get more Info in the future . I also wanted to get rid of using my computer (Windows 10). I have my songs in iTunes and do dj-ing with my ipad and a wego 4K. Sorry to say I had also some trouble with it. The app was fine in the beginning but iOS has changed several times and problems began. In my opinion all-in-one could be the solution .
Sorry to say the update of playlists via iTunes is not so easy. Incremental update does not work. Hope they will program it soon.
Looking forward to see more of you.
Thanks for the feedback John! :)
i love sx3 and then sz2 is best
They are great controllers for sure! :)
'The best'? For sure not 🤣 Pioneer outdated and overpriced...
@@m-stat9 why
Just look at xdj xz and cdj-3000 price. Still wonder why 2021 and xdj still can play .flac file. And yeh emergency "4" looping while denon keep playing the whole track and use all the function like beat jump, change key, scratch, etc... if u put out the drive
surprised nobody has talked about the effects. I played around with the prime 4 and was not impressed at all with the effects sections., sounds, ease of use etc... Turned me off so bad I left without buying. Coming from Pioneer and even using older controllers with similair knobs at the top - just felt it was all off. Maybe I need more time to get used to it - but the sounds were just not good. Hall and reverb were nothing like on Pioneer. Anyone else feel the same?
Thanks for the feedback! Sorry the effects aren't what you were looking for.
It's digital gear, and yeh i think Denon can fix and change the way FX sound with firmware update. They wanna hear feedback on theire website to see what user think they sould do something with theire gear in the future
No doubt the Prime 4 is a nice system. I have one. But what Channa failed to mention is the very sub-par Engine Prime software. It is HORRIBLE. If you are looking to ditch your Serato / DDJ system as I was, you might want to be sure and see how terrible Engine Prime analyzes tracks compared to Serato. Yes, you will have to re-analyze all your tracks. So if you use beat grids, be prepared to fix most of them. And Engine Prime does not allow for multiple BPM in a track. So many people are still using Serato or Rekordbox with the Prime 4 which defeats the purpose.
I can tell you as a new prime 4 owner that the software really isn't as bad as everyone says. The track analysis is now really good and its incredibly intuitive. Denon have invested heavily in the software and interface parts of their business.
Hi can you use rekordbox dvs with the prime 4?
Just stupid badmouthing. Engine got much improved over the last 2 years and just a few days ago received another major update (incl flexible beatgrids). So still not perfect, but for sure not 'HORRIBLE'. Serato DJ or Rekordbox weren't perfect either in their first 2 years. All good.
@@drbarsby ofc not, silly.
To each their own! Plenty of other options out there.
watched 3 mins fed up of the braging about sarato
I think the Prime 4 is a great unit; but the reasons you gave for switching make me believe you are being paid to say those things.
Totally his opinion! We like to have real DJ's give real feedback for everyone, both are great companies and products