I had a 461 Pontiac stroker, with CNC ported heads, big cam, nitrous plate, etc. I finally went the turbo LS route and never went back. The power per dollar is nearly impossible to beat. Reliability is amazing too. I resisted the trend for a long time, but I'm on my 5th LS swapped build now.
I really always appreciate you answering questions before I ask you them Richard! Just started the shopping for a new LS based 1100hp pump gas build and you're giving some great knowledge as always! Thanks again! You may not hear it enough, but the R&D and experience you give away to all of us viewers/subscribers every single video is GOLDEN. Now, off to the wrecking yard!
I’m turboing my 6 speed manual Silverado 4.8 truck Norris , billet 66/73, deka 80 injectors, single 450 pump, put it on 10-12 pounds and it will make whatever it does, just a fast lighting setup
@@richardholdener1727 I have a 08 Chevy Tahoe with a 5.3 just add a BTR Brian Tooley Racing Truck Norris Cam Kit with Springs Seals and Install Kit incl pushrods do I need to have it tune ?
my l83 turbo lasted 40k miles and made 650 whp stock bottom end with the lt5 cam and springs out of the zr1 and the lt4 fuel system from the z06 all chevy parts besides the turbo kit
I always appreciate your videos and advice. I know you have a lot of knowledge on building engines The salvage yard engines LS , you tare down and i assume use the original rings and regap. So do you have a have problems with the engine controlling oil or oil consumption. The engine wiĺl seal up ok . If you was going to do as suggested have the block deck surfaced and head surfaced both great ideas, studs ect . What would you recommend, for example reconditioning the rods and arp rod bolts, bore and hone deck plate .. What do you generally recommend..Thanks for your input
on junkyard motors, we often run them as they come from the yard. I don't ever put arp rod or mani bolts or studs in. I do use arp head studs for boost. we usually reuse the stock rings with more gap
I built an aluminum ls4 for a Grand Prix gxp and thought my motor had been refreshed before. My bearings rods and mains were perfect ( I had never taken apart an ls) I didn’t even replace them and bearing clearance were right on the money. It’s been a really fun process. My only regret was picking the front wheel drive motor it kind of puts you in a box and the 4t65e transaxle is weak
You are the best man! So well clear and simple explained it's unbelievable! Respect! What cam and turbo size would you recommend for budget offroader jeep LS5.3 junkyard swap, for low and Midrange rpm torque. Power around 600-700 hp Thank you ❤
Heres my current thinking for my street turbo combo. Longest runner intake I can get with good flow. Slightly larger than stock cam to get more rpm while maintaining power while out of boost. Slightly oversized turbo to grow into, but also allow themotor to cruise while out of boost. Cool iat's, cool fuel, and oversized rad and oil coolers = stress free daily boost. Thanks for the vids Richard!
Yo. I daily drive my GTO. It’s been reliable for 3-4 years now. Here’s my combo. Aluminum 5.3, summit Pro LS forged pistons and H beam rods. .026 ring gap. ARP head bolts, arp main studs. Did NOT line hone block. Ls9 head gaskets. Summit ghost cam. If I had to do it again, I’d put an ls6 cam or ls2 cam. Ported 243 heads. Ferrea valves Billet wheel 7875 1.25 ar exhaust housing. Full 3.5” exhaust 4l60. 3800 pas yank Convertor. I built the trans, it’s all billet shafts, 4l79 drum etc etc. 3.45 gears. Max boost is 24psi on 93 octane. 9.4:1 compression. O I forgot. I did upgrade the radiator. Didn’t make much difference. Put proform Brushless fans and that helped. I have a medium size trans cooler.
@Turbogto_guy 24lbs through a 4l60 sounds like a brave combo. I would love to have your setup in my 944. 24lbs from a 7875 /5.3 has to be at least 800 wheel through a 4l60. Sounds serious!
@@Russell_and_Rosko That's ok because after personally finishing several turbo LS swaps and builds, I've noticed that anyone who does too much thinking never finishes them, or I would be thinking about their attitude instead.
The thing I have seen fail in the Hard ran LS Is the crank due to the placement of the thrust bearing. I'm currently doing my first LS upgrade. Between you and Travis black I think I can now make a decent tow truck. But after 3 million miles of long haul driving I kind of want a turbo for the foot hills when pulling the 4k pound loaded enclosed lawn trailer. I want to be Abel to run Regular gas so I have the Truck Norris valve set on the shelf waiting on the end of lawn season.
I went with a CSU carb from Kevin and my car went a 9.58 @ 140 with a truck Norris cam and springs with a 88/117 on it. And I was beating it off the rev limiter @ 7500 for 1.4633 seconds.
Help!! Building a budget street toy, not looking to race on track; just mainly highway pulls. Critique my setup. Goal: Spank Mopar 392s / 800 rwhp - 96 9C1 Caprice - 4500 lbs loaded - 6.0 LQ9 / 317 heads - Either 7875 T4 or S480 T6 - Comp 227/232 .613/.600 114+4 - 4L60E (for now) - 3600 stall - 3.08 gear - Pump gas setup if at all possible Thoughts? What could be improved?
3.23/3.27 rear out of a GXP/SS is a good time in these heavy turds. Don’t waste your time with the 60; go 4L80. Turbos can be hard to stuff in these cars so most people run LSA/2650 style blowers. Your combo will be fun as hell but after a couple months you’ll read this comment and understand what I’m talking about
can you test turbo blanket? maybe also test ceramic coating and or which is better and why. also can we test exhaust size far from the headers..is having a restrictive muffler (quite muffler) effect flow much being so far from the headers. This test can prove weather or not-in the perfect world we'd like to have a free flowing exhaust but quite muffle
How much ring gap should we be adding in use with pump fuel in the hooker cross pipe manifold . Let say 10-14psi ? Also what compression ratio should I be sim for current my 5.3 has flat top pistons and 862 heads
Great video, Thankyou for all the hard work and thought you put into your videos. I would like to know how much ring gap do you recommend on a high mile 6.0?
Richard can you try nitrous or methanol injection into the turbo exhaust housing. instead of doing all the work that goes into spraying into the cold side, pulsing into the exhaust side would be easier to bring up the turbo what you reckon?
@@richardholdener1727 Well if you injected nitrous and gasoline into the exhaust manifold it might make an interesting spool aide. You could keep the more tame cylinder pressure curve of boost versus nitrous that way. I have never known anyone to do it that way but I don't know why it couldn't work. Probably would take a lot more nitrous to make the same power that way as you would loose efficiency with the turbo as the only energy recovery device.
Richard when your pulling these apart for ring gap how do you manage the cracked cap rod bearings...from what I've read pulling these apart will almost guarantee it goes out of round and you can't get it back together right without machining and oversized bearings?
I really like this style topic, Richard. I think you could do some more that would help debunk some common myths (review for long time viewers, but would still be entertaining and informative). How about: (1) "dual plane is all you need" where you show with different engine sizes and cams you have to build an extreme engine to benefit from a single plane or any of the other options. victor jr ftw. (2) Your carburetor is (probably) too big. (3) Street car? Focus on power under the curve, not peak HP and TQ numbers. (4) DIY turbo ring gap, three ways (there are at least three ways, right?). With the standard, I have a lot of time but low money method, the I am short on time and happy to buy a (ring gap) tool, inbetween, send it to a shop, or buy new larger gap rings. That's 5... but help us decide what's best for each of us!
Richard very cool video, when are you going to give the Tick Performance intercooler another shakedown? The guys over a Tick have some sitting on the shelf for you to test. Would like to see the difference between using a short and long runner intake and see the difference at lower RPM it has on a turbo LS or LT.
@@richardholdener1727 but wasn't that with the restricted adapter plate for the supercharger? th-cam.com/video/Z2u6zkyOBOc/w-d-xo.htmlsi=Gm3hVmAtPR9b6rkM Would be nice to see a remake with something like a 7675 and both the high and low ram to see if there is a low RPM change in HP like with a NA setup.
Great video. I am going to be doing a single turbo 5.3 4l80e swap on my 98 mustang. Hp goal is 800-1000hp range. I plan to get the heads ported and install a cam (probably going to take your advice on the Truck Norris cam). Is the VSR nextgen 7875 billet wheel turbo a good option for this goal? I have seen a few of the videos you've made on the turbos, I like the responsiveness, I like the way they perform, and according to speedway, they're rated to 1150hp. It's not going to be a daily driver, but it will be driven on the street regularly and plan on doing drag and drive events with it.
more specifically, grab you up a 4L80E from any of the heavier duty vans/trucks and have someone that knows what they are doing go through it. Remember these are controlled differently than the normal 4L60E's that come in many of these cars so make sure you can control it properly. I have a van 4L80E in my Firebird and used a PCMofNC controller cable to be able to run it with my stock PCM running ~550rwhp through it with no issues, but if your hitting 1000hp you really want to have it refreshed and built a bit.
Hi Richard, You've done more testing to these motors than anyone I've seen before so I was hoping you could give me your thoughts on my build and turbo sizing. I have a Mk IV 454 with thumb rods, cast crank, dished pistons (7.8:1) and 781 large oval heads. 228/228 .544/.544 cam with appropriate springs ARP 3/8 rod bolts, head studs, MLS gaskets, resurfaced heads, new moly rings gapped to 0.032 on both I purchased a pair of Maxpeedingrods 68mm ceramic ball bearing turbos with the 0.81 A/R turbine housing. They appear to be an exact copy of the Garrett G35-1050. Looking at the compressor map they also appear to be very similar to the GT45 ebay turbos you use, but far more efficient. Are these turbos appropriate? My goal is 1000hp however this is a road/circuit race car, it will experience a lot of its time at WOT. I fear I may have oversized my turbos and the boost threshold will be too high for a nice wide powerband. What do you think would be a safe power goal and redline for continuous high horsepower use? 5500rpm? This will be with a holley super sniper EFI.
Hey richard I had an interesting build idea. Do you think it would be possible to run 14:1 compression naturally aspirated on 87 octane? im thinking about building an iron ls1 and since windshield washer fluid is dirt cheap, why not build it with 14:1 compession? As far as im concerned im leaving free horsepower on the table!
I have a 255 liter per hour pump for my primary and a 525 hellcat pump for my secondary. I might have enough for 1000hp pump gas but probably not e85. And a 525 on it own ain’t gonna do it especially e85.
@@ericwilson2585 th-cam.com/video/w1uOff1E4u8/w-d-xo.htmlsi=5gLuIkakE_uvOJyp This explains everything. Richard is a true hero when it comes to turbo LS data.
Ok question. I have 99 ls1 Camaro 5.7. If I wanted 1000hp could I actually do that with the sbe and just adjust ring gap or because it's 5.7 ls1 I need to upgrade the bottom end.
Not related to the video but I have a lq9 if I put 706 heads and bumped the compression up what would you estimate the compression being at and any detonation problems?
Hey Richard how are you ? I liked to see a 6.0 carb blow through turbo set up test .see why kind of numbers you can make alot of people wanting too run that set up around my area . Ty
My question is a 1000hp turbo on a 4.8 or 5.3 could you still run into back pressure issues if you used that turbo say on a 408? I have a turbonetics 78/75 ball bearing turbo on a 5.3 in my chevelle. This winter im putting in my 408 i built. But would i run into back pressure issues using that turbo? I had planned at one point to run 2 but budget and the fact turbonetics no longer makes that turbo is alittle issue.
I got a 6.0 gen 3 ls i wanna make 800hp to the wheels but i love having chop to my exhaust but i also wanna build power should i sacrifice the chop? And what cam would you recommend?
I always wonder how much better mileage a 4.8 would get on the highway. May seem silly but if I can get further on a buck and just turn up free boost to make the same or similar power, I'm taking it.
That depends. If it’s a truck, you’d do better with the extra stoke a 5.3 has. It takes tq to get weight moving and keep it moving. The little 4.8 will struggle more keeping a heavy vehicle moving so you’ll burn more fuel. But, if it’s a car, the 4.8 would save fuel.
@@bobgyetvai9444 that’s unheard of. You must only drive downhill or your math is wrong. My lighter, newer, higher technology 2019 direct injected 5.3 Silverado will get 26-28 on the interstate. No way an older Silverado will match that.
@@richardholdener1727 well I agree with you on the 2002 Chevy is way too high but my 2019 for sure gets 22-24 on average and will get 26-28 on the highway. You must consider: it’s got aluminum doors, aluminum hood, aluminum tailgate, 8 speed trans, direct injection, cylinder deactivation and the DFCO works almost till I coast to a stop which cuts the injectors off. Research it, these new Chevy trucks get crazy good fuel mileage.
Junk. They squirt a stream instead of atomized fuel. Deka 60’s or deka 80’s are your best bet for budget. Very easy to tune either one. If you need hp tuners injector data, hit me up I can email you a tune with the data.
So just a quick question, the previous owner of my truck was building it for boost, it is currently N/A would rings being gapped for boost make it “smoke” at 3/4-100% throttle?
@@richardholdener1727 no brother we need to see twins and lsa in the middle I know it’s a lot but that’s one topic nobody touches and I think you are the perfect person to educate us on that
Hey do yourself a favor and check out the 2002 to 2004 Kia Spectra 1.8L T8D engine. More specifically the 2002-2004 with the ( K2n5 ) cylinder head. They are very close to the Mazda Miata engines. I have a giant turbo on a junkyard block and it's a monster.. they are the secret engine that no one knows about
But to add what to Richard said. Say you’re me, and you bought a stupid shiny intake and the old sloppy stage 2 before you discovered Richard’s TH-cam, you’ll still probably be alright. Great stuff as usual.
Dang it I wish you would not have said get the 6.0 if possible. I already knew that ,however most nebs “gotta get a 5.3” 😂 I have a stock pile of Lt-1 and SBC engines anyways to burn through before so hopefully I won’t be picknpull harvesting any time soon.
You keep saying that a better flowing head won't make any difference if you only want 1000hp. What if the motor is intended for road racing? I assume that you need less boost, which builds less heat, which in turn makes the life of the motor easier, if you use a higher hp n/a motor as the base for the build.
The camshaft is the least important...... according to this engine builder I know (His name is Richard holder) every camshaft is a turbo camshaft ! The most important (in my opinion) would be the engine management system !
Richard, how about some Audi 5 cyl content??? Specifically the mid 80s through early 90s 10 and 20 valve engines. Dump the bs Bosch mechanical FI and throw a single 32-36 Weber or clone on a cobbled together intake ( 5 cyl engines aren’t supposed to run worth a crap with common plenum intake manifolds) . See what the results are. Then mod the stock intake to accept 5 single bbl carbs like Weber 34 ICTs or clones. Or maybe 5 single bbl Carter or Rochester carbs. Then do a turbo conversion. Either draw through or blow through. Then some Eaton supercharger configurations. It would be some fun stuff.
I had a 461 Pontiac stroker, with CNC ported heads, big cam, nitrous plate, etc. I finally went the turbo LS route and never went back. The power per dollar is nearly impossible to beat. Reliability is amazing too. I resisted the trend for a long time, but I'm on my 5th LS swapped build now.
I hope that 461 gets back into a fun pontiac. Turbo ls power is cheap and easy. A hundred years from now, old school will still be cool.
@kellyheath8547 laughable reasoning. In 100 years an LS will be old school cool too lmao
@fordr1 example, flathead Ford is still cool. sbc is not cool, it's just a cheap way to make hp. That thing is almost 70.
I really always appreciate you answering questions before I ask you them Richard! Just started the shopping for a new LS based 1100hp pump gas build and you're giving some great knowledge as always! Thanks again! You may not hear it enough, but the R&D and experience you give away to all of us viewers/subscribers every single video is GOLDEN. Now, off to the wrecking yard!
I’m turboing my 6 speed manual Silverado 4.8 truck Norris , billet 66/73, deka 80 injectors, single 450 pump, put it on 10-12 pounds and it will make whatever it does, just a fast lighting setup
I’m gonna be doing close to the same 66/73 sloppy best cam pac 1218, recapped injectors and sending it
Really appreciate you making your videos. Don't stop
More to come!
@@richardholdener1727can't wait!
@@richardholdener1727 I have a 08 Chevy Tahoe with a 5.3 just add a BTR Brian Tooley Racing Truck Norris Cam Kit with Springs Seals and Install Kit incl pushrods do I need to have it tune ?
@@letsgetmoney35 yes
These brands be fearmongering that you need kryptonian rods so they can sell it at the cost of your liver😂
Love these short videos. It’s what my short attention span needs🎉🎉🎉🎉thank you
Thanks, never knew where to start, good Sir!
my l83 turbo lasted 40k miles and made 650 whp stock bottom end with the lt5 cam and springs out of the zr1 and the lt4 fuel system from the z06 all chevy parts besides the turbo kit
nice
I appreciate you spreading all your knowledge sir. You are amazing.
I appreciate that!
I always appreciate your videos and advice. I know you have a lot of knowledge on building engines The salvage yard engines LS , you tare down and i assume use the original rings and regap. So do you have a have problems with the engine controlling oil or oil consumption. The engine wiĺl seal up ok . If you was going to do as suggested have the block deck surfaced and head surfaced both great ideas, studs ect . What would you recommend, for example reconditioning the rods and arp rod bolts, bore and hone deck plate .. What do you generally recommend..Thanks for your input
on junkyard motors, we often run them as they come from the yard. I don't ever put arp rod or mani bolts or studs in. I do use arp head studs for boost. we usually reuse the stock rings with more gap
Thank you for a very down and dirty summary of what you need to do to a LS to get 1000hp, can you do a more in depth part 2?
join the live feed nightly at 7 pm pst if you have specific questions.
This is probably the best video ever 👏👏👏
I built an aluminum ls4 for a Grand Prix gxp and thought my motor had been refreshed before. My bearings rods and mains were perfect ( I had never taken apart an ls) I didn’t even replace them and bearing clearance were right on the money. It’s been a really fun process. My only regret was picking the front wheel drive motor it kind of puts you in a box and the 4t65e transaxle is weak
You are the best man!
So well clear and simple explained it's unbelievable! Respect!
What cam and turbo size would you recommend for budget offroader jeep LS5.3 junkyard swap, for low and Midrange rpm torque.
Power around 600-700 hp
Thank you ❤
get my Low Buck Truck Cam and a GT45 turbo-cam is on sale now at richardholdenerperformance.com (injectors too)
Heres my current thinking for my street turbo combo.
Longest runner intake I can get with good flow.
Slightly larger than stock cam to get more rpm while maintaining power while out of boost.
Slightly oversized turbo to grow into, but also allow themotor to cruise while out of boost.
Cool iat's, cool fuel, and oversized rad and oil coolers = stress free daily boost.
Thanks for the vids Richard!
Yo. I daily drive my GTO. It’s been reliable for 3-4 years now. Here’s my combo.
Aluminum 5.3, summit Pro LS forged pistons and H beam rods. .026 ring gap. ARP head bolts, arp main studs. Did NOT line hone block. Ls9 head gaskets.
Summit ghost cam. If I had to do it again, I’d put an ls6 cam or ls2 cam.
Ported 243 heads. Ferrea valves
Billet wheel 7875 1.25 ar exhaust housing. Full 3.5” exhaust
4l60. 3800 pas yank Convertor. I built the trans, it’s all billet shafts, 4l79 drum etc etc. 3.45 gears. Max boost is 24psi on 93 octane. 9.4:1 compression.
O I forgot. I did upgrade the radiator. Didn’t make much difference. Put proform Brushless fans and that helped. I have a medium size trans cooler.
@Turbogto_guy 24lbs through a 4l60 sounds like a brave combo. I would love to have your setup in my 944. 24lbs from a 7875 /5.3 has to be at least 800 wheel through a 4l60. Sounds serious!
The stock intake is the longest runner intake so that shouldn't be too hard. Too much thinking already.
@chipcurrey653 I don't think I like your attitude chip
@@Russell_and_Rosko That's ok because after personally finishing several turbo LS swaps and builds, I've noticed that anyone who does too much thinking never finishes them, or I would be thinking about their attitude instead.
I wanna see you do stuff with the 1uz. They respond super well with minor mods and are very rpm happy.
A timely video.. Thanks for the refresher
Plan to test the BTR LS TRUCK HOSS STROKER CAMSHAFT anytime soon?
a 400-inch specific truck cam is not really on the radar-I'm Brian has tested them
The thing I have seen fail in the Hard ran LS Is the crank due to the placement of the thrust bearing. I'm currently doing my first LS upgrade. Between you and Travis black I think I can now make a decent tow truck. But after 3 million miles of long haul driving I kind of want a turbo for the foot hills when pulling the 4k pound loaded enclosed lawn trailer. I want to be Abel to run Regular gas so I have the Truck Norris valve set on the shelf waiting on the end of lawn season.
Water injection in the warm and water / meth injection in the cold. Snow Performance.
Great video just the information I needed
always bake some overhead in for elevation bonneville on a hot day is going to make that turbo spin like a mother
Hey Richard.
I’m planning to build an iron 6.0 turbo Ls using the stock crank. What main and rod bearing clearances should I shoot for?
.0023, .0028
Thanks Richard
Great video. Straight to the point(s).
A absolute wonderful video!!!!
DOOD! Background! Awesome!
Thanks ,so inspiring
One small thing every day 💪
I went with a CSU carb from Kevin and my car went a 9.58 @ 140 with a truck Norris cam and springs with a 88/117 on it. And I was beating it off the rev limiter @ 7500 for 1.4633 seconds.
As always excellent info!
Guy you do a fantastic job of explaining this stuff. Thank you.
I appreciate that!
Can you do a build with a 5.3 or 6.0 with a blow through carb turbo setup? I’m thinking of running that setup on my truck.
I want to see the different setups with the different carb intakes
those vids are up
Great video! Thanks Richard!
Richard, could you briefly touch on fuel management and fuel pump needs for the application. Or keep it stock with just a good tune?
PICK INJ SIZE FOR DESIRED POWER LEVEL (INJ FLOW RATE X 16 = NA HP) EXAMPLE-25 LB INJ X 16=400 (25-POIUND INJ WILL SUPPORT ABOUT 400 HP)
350 sbc with aluminum heads, cam, intake and headers for me. Gets up and moves.....but I can dream of turbocharging it lol
New ring tension slows wear on cylinder walls, and better metals.
Help!! Building a budget street toy, not looking to race on track; just mainly highway pulls. Critique my setup.
Goal: Spank Mopar 392s / 800 rwhp
- 96 9C1 Caprice - 4500 lbs loaded
- 6.0 LQ9 / 317 heads
- Either 7875 T4 or S480 T6
- Comp 227/232 .613/.600 114+4
- 4L60E (for now)
- 3600 stall
- 3.08 gear
- Pump gas setup if at all possible
Thoughts? What could be improved?
3.23/3.27 rear out of a GXP/SS is a good time in these heavy turds. Don’t waste your time with the 60; go 4L80. Turbos can be hard to stuff in these cars so most people run LSA/2650 style blowers. Your combo will be fun as hell but after a couple months you’ll read this comment and understand what I’m talking about
smaller cam
@@boost1728 I appreciate you, I definitely was thinking of a steeper gear. I wasn't sure how it would correlate with spool at lower level street rpm.
@@richardholdener1727 Ty RH, I'll do more homework on a smaller cam. Truck Norris maybe.
can you test turbo blanket?
maybe also test ceramic coating and or which is better and why.
also can we test exhaust size far from the headers..is having a restrictive muffler (quite muffler) effect flow much being so far from the headers. This test can prove weather or not-in the perfect world we'd like to have a free flowing exhaust but quite muffle
those won't show on the dyno-only designed to keep heat away from other things
How much ring gap should we be adding in use with pump fuel in the hooker cross pipe manifold . Let say 10-14psi ?
Also what compression ratio should I be sim for current my 5.3 has flat top pistons and 862 heads
.0065 ring gap per 1 inch of bore
Will my compression ratio be ok with those heads and pistons?
Have you done the Hellcat blower on a LS?
Looks like it does pretty good
Great video, Thankyou for all the hard work and thought you put into your videos. I would like to know how much ring gap do you recommend on a high mile 6.0?
.028
@@richardholdener1727 thanks
now I need to figure out how to fit an LS AND a turbo in my C4
Ease put the turbo in the rear…😅
Richard can you try nitrous or methanol injection into the turbo exhaust housing. instead of doing all the work that goes into spraying into the cold side, pulsing into the exhaust side would be easier to bring up the turbo
what you reckon?
why would you inject -129 degree nitrous into the hot side of the turbo?
@@richardholdener1727 Well if you injected nitrous and gasoline into the exhaust manifold it might make an interesting spool aide. You could keep the more tame cylinder pressure curve of boost versus nitrous that way. I have never known anyone to do it that way but I don't know why it couldn't work. Probably would take a lot more nitrous to make the same power that way as you would loose efficiency with the turbo as the only energy recovery device.
Excellent summary
Richard when your pulling these apart for ring gap how do you manage the cracked cap rod bearings...from what I've read pulling these apart will almost guarantee it goes out of round and you can't get it back together right without machining and oversized bearings?
the rods go right back together (there is no out of round) with the existing bearings
I really like this style topic, Richard. I think you could do some more that would help debunk some common myths (review for long time viewers, but would still be entertaining and informative). How about: (1) "dual plane is all you need" where you show with different engine sizes and cams you have to build an extreme engine to benefit from a single plane or any of the other options. victor jr ftw. (2) Your carburetor is (probably) too big. (3) Street car? Focus on power under the curve, not peak HP and TQ numbers. (4) DIY turbo ring gap, three ways (there are at least three ways, right?). With the standard, I have a lot of time but low money method, the I am short on time and happy to buy a (ring gap) tool, inbetween, send it to a shop, or buy new larger gap rings. That's 5... but help us decide what's best for each of us!
good ideas-the ring gap issue is time vs money (the ring gap machine saves a lot of time compared to flat file, but costs more $)
Question building my 5.3 piston rods cam etc I want to achieve 1200whp will the stock crank hold up
yes-we have done 1543 hp stock crank
@@richardholdener1727 ik it would make the power but the real question is what’s the durability like on it at the power level
Idk if I'm missing something but what happened to the Trophy 4 engine?
I wonder how it will fair with an Edelbrock cylinder head and probably a turbo.
Would love to see the differences in a ford 351m and a 400m
Can I get this exact video but for a big block Chevy?
Richard very cool video, when are you going to give the Tick Performance intercooler another shakedown? The guys over a Tick have some sitting on the shelf for you to test. Would like to see the difference between using a short and long runner intake and see the difference at lower RPM it has on a turbo LS or LT.
We have run than on a high and low ram
@@richardholdener1727 but wasn't that with the restricted adapter plate for the supercharger?
th-cam.com/video/Z2u6zkyOBOc/w-d-xo.htmlsi=Gm3hVmAtPR9b6rkM
Would be nice to see a remake with something like a 7675 and both the high and low ram to see if there is a low RPM change in HP like with a NA setup.
Great video. I am going to be doing a single turbo 5.3 4l80e swap on my 98 mustang. Hp goal is 800-1000hp range. I plan to get the heads ported and install a cam (probably going to take your advice on the Truck Norris cam). Is the VSR nextgen 7875 billet wheel turbo a good option for this goal? I have seen a few of the videos you've made on the turbos, I like the responsiveness, I like the way they perform, and according to speedway, they're rated to 1150hp. It's not going to be a daily driver, but it will be driven on the street regularly and plan on doing drag and drive events with it.
that turbo works well
I think new valve springs should be considered? No?
cam and springs
Hey i like your videos. I am wondering what is the cheapest way to get a durable transmission for 1000hp for normal use??
4L80
more specifically, grab you up a 4L80E from any of the heavier duty vans/trucks and have someone that knows what they are doing go through it. Remember these are controlled differently than the normal 4L60E's that come in many of these cars so make sure you can control it properly. I have a van 4L80E in my Firebird and used a PCMofNC controller cable to be able to run it with my stock PCM running ~550rwhp through it with no issues, but if your hitting 1000hp you really want to have it refreshed and built a bit.
Do you have a video of the 7.3 Godzilla?
no sir
I can still see the original machined cross hatches on my 03 6.0, they really don’t wear like that.
Hi Richard,
You've done more testing to these motors than anyone I've seen before so I was hoping you could give me your thoughts on my build and turbo sizing.
I have a Mk IV 454 with thumb rods, cast crank, dished pistons (7.8:1) and 781 large oval heads.
228/228 .544/.544 cam with appropriate springs
ARP 3/8 rod bolts, head studs, MLS gaskets, resurfaced heads, new moly rings gapped to 0.032 on both
I purchased a pair of Maxpeedingrods 68mm ceramic ball bearing turbos with the 0.81 A/R turbine housing. They appear to be an exact copy of the Garrett G35-1050. Looking at the compressor map they also appear to be very similar to the GT45 ebay turbos you use, but far more efficient.
Are these turbos appropriate? My goal is 1000hp however this is a road/circuit race car, it will experience a lot of its time at WOT. I fear I may have oversized my turbos and the boost threshold will be too high for a nice wide powerband.
What do you think would be a safe power goal and redline for continuous high horsepower use? 5500rpm? This will be with a holley super sniper EFI.
they will work fine if close to the G35
So I don’t need to worry about excessive back pressure on a turbo 6.0 @ 1000hp ?
Not with the right turbo
Hey richard I had an interesting build idea. Do you think it would be possible to run 14:1 compression naturally aspirated on 87 octane? im thinking about building an iron ls1 and since windshield washer fluid is dirt cheap, why not build it with 14:1 compession? As far as im concerned im leaving free horsepower on the table!
let me know how that works out
Do you think a single walbro 535hellcat fuel pump will suffice up to 1000hp?
not sure what the Hellcat pump will support
Nope
I have a 255 liter per hour pump for my primary and a 525 hellcat pump for my secondary. I might have enough for 1000hp pump gas but probably not e85. And a 525 on it own ain’t gonna do it especially e85.
No it will not speaking from experience.
The hellcat makes 700hp so i dont think they factored 300hp more into the stock pump.
What head gaskets do you use ??
Fel Pro or stock LS9
@@richardholdener1727 thank you
Please correct me if I'm wrong but if a turbo is rated for 500hp, will a twin-turbo setup make 1,000hp?
Yes. If you use 2 turbos that are capable of doing 500 each, they together will do 1000.
Yes but twins is worse at everything...except sometimes packaging. A single 1000hp turbo is better than 2x 500hp turbos on a V8.
@@chipcurrey653 Oh? I've not heard this I'll have to check it out. Thank you.
@@ericwilson2585 twins is basically double trouble
@@ericwilson2585 th-cam.com/video/w1uOff1E4u8/w-d-xo.htmlsi=5gLuIkakE_uvOJyp
This explains everything. Richard is a true hero when it comes to turbo LS data.
Ok question. I have 99 ls1 Camaro 5.7. If I wanted 1000hp could I actually do that with the sbe and just adjust ring gap or because it's 5.7 ls1 I need to upgrade the bottom end.
we don't take the alum 5.7L blocks beyond 1000 hp, but it is very easy to make that number with ring gap and stock bottom end.
Not related to the video but I have a lq9 if I put 706 heads and bumped the compression up what would you estimate the compression being at and any detonation problems?
plug all your info in at wallace racing compression calculator (on line)
What brand injectors should be used for like some 80lb
accel or Deka
Hey Richard how are you ? I liked to see a 6.0 carb blow through turbo set up test .see why kind of numbers you can make alot of people wanting too run that set up around my area . Ty
I have blow through carb videos up
How about a garrett g35-1050 with a 1.21ar on a 5.3l
try it
I hope my combo is excellent with a 2.66 T56 and 3.31 gears.
Lq4
Ported 243 heads
216/224 .551/.551 114lsa
Tbss intake
Twin walbro 450s
-10an/8an lines
Snow fuel rails
Genuine Bosch 210s
MS3 gold box
My question is a 1000hp turbo on a 4.8 or 5.3 could you still run into back pressure issues if you used that turbo say on a 408? I have a turbonetics 78/75 ball bearing turbo on a 5.3 in my chevelle. This winter im putting in my 408 i built. But would i run into back pressure issues using that turbo? I had planned at one point to run 2 but budget and the fact turbonetics no longer makes that turbo is alittle issue.
in absolute terms, the 1000-hp can sometimes make more on the smaller motor-a larger motor will often tax the hot side flow before the cold side
If i plan on adding a turbo later would it hurt to gap for a turbo now?
ALWAYS A GOOD IDEA
I got a 6.0 gen 3 ls i wanna make 800hp to the wheels but i love having chop to my exhaust but i also wanna build power should i sacrifice the chop? And what cam would you recommend?
building power is easy, chop cams just reduce spool response
Bottom end will hold up to the turbo stock? 700hp?
we have done double that-so 700 hp is easy with ring gap
Thanks very informative
I always wonder how much better mileage a 4.8 would get on the highway. May seem silly but if I can get further on a buck and just turn up free boost to make the same or similar power, I'm taking it.
That depends. If it’s a truck, you’d do better with the extra stoke a 5.3 has. It takes tq to get weight moving and keep it moving. The little 4.8 will struggle more keeping a heavy vehicle moving so you’ll burn more fuel. But, if it’s a car, the 4.8 would save fuel.
My 2002 1500 Silverado w/ 3.42 gets 27 city/32 hwy with a 4.8 . Great engine capable of far more than its given credit for .
@@bobgyetvai9444 that’s unheard of. You must only drive downhill or your math is wrong. My lighter, newer, higher technology 2019 direct injected 5.3 Silverado will get 26-28 on the interstate. No way an older Silverado will match that.
27/32 seems about 10 mpg too high on both
@@richardholdener1727 well I agree with you on the 2002 Chevy is way too high but my 2019 for sure gets 22-24 on average and will get 26-28 on the highway. You must consider: it’s got aluminum doors, aluminum hood, aluminum tailgate, 8 speed trans, direct injection, cylinder deactivation and the DFCO works almost till I coast to a stop which cuts the injectors off. Research it, these new Chevy trucks get crazy good fuel mileage.
Got any opinions on decapped injectors?
Junk. They squirt a stream instead of atomized fuel. Deka 60’s or deka 80’s are your best bet for budget. Very easy to tune either one. If you need hp tuners injector data, hit me up I can email you a tune with the data.
So just a quick question, the previous owner of my truck was building it for boost, it is currently N/A would rings being gapped for boost make it “smoke” at 3/4-100% throttle?
the added ring gap doesn't cause excessive smoke unless you have bad ring seal to begin with
@@richardholdener1727 ok, good to know what would be the next step to fix that?
@@justin_steen hate to say it, but it needs to come apart now. Check bores, etc.
@@bluecollarhotrods9781 sigh* yeah I figured, might look for a spare, or put a real ls3/ 6.2 in it🤔
Hey Richard when are you gonna do a twin charged 5.3ls or 6.0! That’s something I’d like to see for a mild to wild application!!
I did a compound, does that count?
@@richardholdener1727 no brother we need to see twins and lsa in the middle I know it’s a lot but that’s one topic nobody touches and I think you are the perfect person to educate us on that
How much more ring gap over stock???
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Hey do yourself a favor and check out the 2002 to 2004 Kia Spectra 1.8L T8D engine. More specifically the 2002-2004 with the ( K2n5 ) cylinder head. They are very close to the Mazda Miata engines. I have a giant turbo on a junkyard block and it's a monster.. they are the secret engine that no one knows about
But to add what to Richard said. Say you’re me, and you bought a stupid shiny intake and the old sloppy stage 2 before you discovered Richard’s TH-cam, you’ll still probably be alright. Great stuff as usual.
if you have boost-you are good
Aluminum vs iron block?
I know you test and dyno but do you actually build engines for the public ?customers ?
I DON'T BUILD FOR OTHERS
Dang it I wish you would not have said get the 6.0 if possible. I already knew that ,however most nebs “gotta get a 5.3” 😂 I have a stock pile of Lt-1 and SBC engines anyways to burn through before so hopefully I won’t be picknpull harvesting any time soon.
Good stuff 👍
Most stock motors that are healthy, should be able to handle 10 psi all day...just gotta be a little fat on the fuel
You keep saying that a better flowing head won't make any difference if you only want 1000hp. What if the motor is intended for road racing? I assume that you need less boost, which builds less heat, which in turn makes the life of the motor easier, if you use a higher hp n/a motor as the base for the build.
The camshaft is the least important...... according to this engine builder I know (His name is Richard holder) every camshaft is a turbo camshaft ! The most important (in my opinion) would be the engine management system !
Hi Richard!
Good day.
I think Ls has low teaching rings
Thanks !
🙋♂Tiny Richard
found where all the honda guys went
Here's another guy that got gapped by a 4 cylinder
@@Pipelinernick Here's another guy that got gapped by a v8 and went ls
Richard, how about some Audi 5 cyl content??? Specifically the mid 80s through early 90s 10 and 20 valve engines. Dump the bs Bosch mechanical FI and throw a single 32-36 Weber or clone on a cobbled together intake ( 5 cyl engines aren’t supposed to run worth a crap with common plenum intake manifolds) . See what the results are. Then mod the stock intake to accept 5 single bbl carbs like Weber 34 ICTs or clones. Or maybe 5 single bbl Carter or Rochester carbs. Then do a turbo conversion. Either draw through or blow through. Then some Eaton supercharger configurations. It would be some fun stuff.
No, dont buy 1000 hp turbo for 700 hp engine, it will be laggy like Holdeners dyno queens.
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Would love to talk a one on one type of conversation with you just for an informational learning curve 🫡